“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Saturday, June 21, 2014

The present US set up in Washington is rotten to the core - They will Never willingly stop - Three stories


Fisa court grants extension of licence for bulk collection of US phone records

Reauthorisation is fifth since the Guardian revealed existence of Section 215 telephony metadata program in June last year

Dan Roberts in Washington, Friday 20 June 2014 20.18 EDT

The Fisa court has granted a 90-day extension of the licence that allows the NSA to collect metadata. Photograph: Patrick Semansky/AP
US intelligence agencies have made a fifth attempt to extend their bulk collection of American telephone records – more than a year after the controversial practice was first revealed by National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden.
Despite repeated calls from Congress and President Obama for the mass gathering of private US phone records to be banned, a court has approved the request in secret, allowing the NSA to continue collecting metadata until 12 September 2014.
In a joint statement released late on Friday afternoon, the justice department and director of national intelligence, James Clapper, said it was necessary to continue seeking such legal extensions because the Congressional reform process supported by Obama was not yet complete.
"Given that legislation has not yet been enacted, and given the importance of maintaining the capabilities of the Section 215 telephony metadata program, the government has sought a 90-day reauthorization of the existing program," said the joint statement.
The 90-day blanket licence granted by the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, or Fisa court, is the fifth such extension that has been requested, and granted, since the Guardian first revealed the existence of the Section 215 program on 5 June 2013.

Similar 90-day reauthorisations were subsequently declassified by the administration on 19 July 2013, 11 October 2013, 3 January 2014 and 11 April 2014.Yet in March, Obama reacted to growing criticism of the NSA's domestic surveillance acitivities by calling for an end to bulk collection under Section 215 and suggesting that records be retained instead by telephone companies, and only be available for specific searches following court requests.
In May, the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed the USA Freedom Act, which sought to enshrine this ban in law, although civil liberties campaigners claimed it was significantly watered down after pressure on legislators by government regulators.
In a statement explaining the latest renewal request on Friday, the justice department and office of the director of national intelligence said that they still support the legislation and would work with Congress to try to clarify the language before it is voted on by the Senate.
"Overall, the bill's significant reforms would provide the public greater confidence in our programs and the checks and balances in the system, while ensuring our intelligence and law enforcement professionals have the authorities they need to protect the Nation," the statement said.

"The administration strongly supports the USA Freedom Act. We urge the Senate to swiftly consider it, and remain ready to work with Congress to clarify that the bill prohibits bulk collection as noted above, as necessary.



  1. What philosopher Harvey Mansfield calls “taming the prince” — making executive power compatible with democracy’s abhorrence of arbitrary power — has been a perennial problem of modern politics. It is now more urgent in the United States than at any time since the Founders, having rebelled against George III’s unfettered exercise of “royal prerogative,” stipulated that presidents “shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.”

    Serious as are the policy disagreements roiling Washington, none is as important as the structural distortion threatening constitutional equilibrium. Institutional derangement driven by unchecked presidential aggrandizement did not begin with Barack Obama, but his offenses against the separation of powers have been egregious in quantity and qualitatively different.

    Regarding immigration, health care, welfare, education, drug policy and more, Obama has suspended, waived and rewritten laws, including the Affordable Care Act. It required the employer mandate to begin this year. But Obama wrote a new law, giving to companies of a certain size a delay until 2016 and stipulating that other employers must certify they will not drop employees to avoid the mandate. Doing so would trigger criminal perjury charges; so he created a new crime, that of adopting a business practice he opposes.

    Presidents must exercise some discretion in interpreting laws, must have some latitude in allocating finite resources to the enforcement of laws and must have some freedom to act in the absence of law. Obama, however, has perpetrated more than 40 suspensions of laws. Were presidents the sole judges of the limits of their latitude, they would effectively have plenary power to vitiate the separation of powers, the Founders’ bulwark against despotism.


    1. {...}

      Congress cannot reverse egregious executive aggressions such as Obama’s without robust judicial assistance. It is, however, difficult to satisfy the criteria that the Constitution and case law require for Congress to establish “standing” to seek judicial redress for executive usurpations injurious to the legislative institution .

      Courts, understandably fearful of being inundated by lawsuits from small factions of disgruntled legislators, have been wary of granting legislative standing. However, David Rivkin, a Washington lawyer, and Elizabeth Price Foley of Florida International University have studied the case law and believe that standing can be obtained conditional on four things:

      That a majority of one congressional chamber explicitly authorizes a lawsuit. That the lawsuit concern the president’s “benevolent” suspension of an unambiguous provision of law that, by pleasing a private faction, precludes the appearance of a private plaintiff. That Congress cannot administer political self-help by remedying the presidential action by simply repealing the law. And that the injury amounts to nullification of Congress’s power.

      Hence the significance of a House lawsuit, advocated by Rivkin and Foley, that would unify fractious Republicans while dramatizing Obama’s lawlessness. The House would bring a civil suit seeking a judicial declaration that Obama has violated the separation of powers by effectively nullifying a specific provision of a law, thereby diminishing Congress’s power. Authorization of this lawsuit by the House would give Congress “standing” to sue.

      Congress’s authorization, which would affirm an institutional injury rather than some legislators’ personal grievances, satisfies the first criterion. Obama’s actions have fulfilled the rest by nullifying laws and thereby rendering the Constitution’s enumeration of Congress’s power meaningless.

      The House has passed a bill sponsored by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) that would guarantee expedited consideration by federal courts of House resolutions initiating lawsuits to force presidents to “faithfully execute” laws. But as a bill, it is impotent unless and until Republicans control the Senate and a Republican holds the president’s signing pen.


    2. {...}

      Some say the judicial branch should not intervene because if Americans are so supine that they tolerate representatives who tolerate such executive excesses, they deserve to forfeit constitutional government. This abstract doctrine may appeal to moralists lacking responsibilities. For the judiciary, it would be dereliction of the duty to protect the government’s constitutional structure. It would be perverse for courts to adhere to a doctrine of congressional standing so strict that it precludes judicial defense of the separation of powers.

      Advocates of extreme judicial quietism to punish the supine people leave the people’s representatives no recourse short of the extreme and disproportionate “self help” of impeachment. Surely courts should not encourage this. The cumbersome and divisive blunderbuss process of impeachment should be a rare recourse. Furthermore, it would punish a president for anti-constitutional behavior but would not correct the injury done to the rule of law.

      Surely the Republican House majority would authorize a lawsuit. And doing so would establish Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) as the legislature’s vindicator.

      George F. Will - WASHINGTON POST

    3. Careful, Deuce:

      This Obama Triple Play in one post may have The Desert Rat and The Swamp Rat fighting each other off for first dibs to Blow Barry.

  2. That guy was certainly a smug ass, all righty.

    What a turd.

    There are a lot of them out there.

    1. Bob is a smug ased liarSat Jun 21, 07:43:00 AM EDT

      He looks in the mirror and sees one every day.

  3. A good example of why private property laws are such a boon to civilized life.

    If he wanders onto the spread you kick his stupid off.

    1. Bob continues to dissemble and lieSat Jun 21, 07:45:00 AM EDT

      This is why Bob supports 65% of Idaho being Socialized Property,controlled by the Federal Governemt.
      So that civilized life is throttled back.
      Bob proves both his Fascist tendencies and his hypocrisy with this posting.

  4. Kind of guy that will get embedded in ObamaCare and look after you health concerns.

    1. ObamaCare is the mandated use of Private Insurance companies.
      A concept first developed and championed by Mitt Romney, in Massachusetts.

      Doubtful the IRS Director will become embedded in a private insurance company, not when he has the dictatorial and despotic powers of the IRS to enthrall him.

  5. Crapper rat, you are up early this morning.

    Yup, yon sun is arising over the Bitteroots and the National Forests are secured from the masses.

    If you come out my way Robin, my neighbor, and I will kick you ass off.

    She's got guns.

    We are going to put up some trail cams out that way after the 4th.

    Best for you to stay in hot shitty Phoenix, Pesky.

    1. Bob is a looney tuneSat Jun 21, 08:02:00 AM EDT


      The "Smiley Face" denotes the message "Have a Nice Day"

  6. If the Congress wanted to "rein in" the Obama Administration, there are easy enough steps it could take to start the process.

    1. Bring Articles of Impeachment against Mr Holder.
    There are more than enough misdemeanors that could be used to bring the Articles to the floor of the House. He has been cited for contempt, the charges list in that citation are, in and of themselves are enough.

    2. Cut the funding allocations to the IRS.

    3. Cut the funding allocations to those Executive Departments that the Congress considered in violation of the Law.

    The power of the Courts should not be expanded. The Constitution has laid out the process for the Congress to use when the President oversteps his authority. The fact that the Congress refuses to even entertain the debate, is evidence that the Leaders of the House of Representatives do not believe the President has overstepped his authority.

    Expanding the power of the Federal Courts, because the Leadership of the House agree with the President, is the absolute wrong course of action for the opponents of the President to pursue.

    1. We need to immediately raise militias with patriots like Pesky Jack in charge.

    2. That would be part of the Constitutional Remedy, true enough.
      Each State Governor could raise a State Militia, under the 2nd and 10h Amendments of the Constitution.

      The Governor would then appoint the leadership of the militia, that is a historicly appropriate remedy to an overstepping Federal government. Bob, writing as Pisky, again is showing his pennant for Federal fascism

  7. I bet Pesky puts up a hundred of his turds today.

  8. We need to put all power in Pesky Jack's hands. (Hint: not)

  9. All Pesky does on the weekends is go bowling.

  10. It's a great life, bowling, if you don't drop the bowling ball on your toe.

  11. Pasky, Pisky, Posky and PuskySat Jun 21, 08:10:00 AM EDT

    Yes, it is.

    1. Impeachment is not an option:

      The MSM and people like you and the Swamp Rat in Mississippi will see to it that the low information folk across the fruited plain would accuse the Pubs of being mean spirited racist bastards.

    2. So you are saying,
      Doug, that the Republicans in the House have abrogated their power.
      That since taking on William Jefferson Clinton for perjury, they have decided to allow the President to become a despot, rather than fulfill their obligation to the Constitution.

      Yet you advocate for more of US to support them, in their renunciation of their responsibility ... amazingly disconnected ...

      You postulate the Republicans do not act, not because of anything that HAS happened, but because of what MAY happen if they were to fulfill their responsibilities to the electorate and the Constitution.

      Not because they do not see an actionable offense.
      Not because they are part and parcel of the problem.

      Truly Amazing perspective you have developed , Doug, it is delusional

  12. The Obama administration’s claim to have been surprised by the wave of children flooding over out borders may turn out to be another political lie of the year.
    Sundance of Conservative Treehouse noticed a very peculiar advertisement:

    On January 29th of this year, the federal government posted an advertisement seeking bids for a vendor contract to handle “Unaccompanied Alien Children“.

    Not just any contract mind you, but a very specific contract – for a very specific number of unaccompanied minors: 65,000.

    • Why would DHS and ICE be claiming “surprise” by the current influx of unaccompanied minors on the border in June, when they were taking bids for an exact contract to handle the exact situation in January?

    • Secondly, how could they possibly anticipate 65,000 unaccompanied minors would be showing up at the border, when the most ever encountered in a previous year was 5,000 total ?

    1. Pretty simple Doug.
      The CIA officials in Guatemala and Honduras had a headcount done, of all the children that had been left behind by their parents.
      Since the number was well over 250,000 and the Federal Courts expanded the rules with regards to dependent children being granted asylum, well, our agents in those countries realized the influx was coming, before it broke on the US/Mexican frontier.

      It was good old fashion "Intelligence Work" that gave the Federal government some room to maneuver.

      God Bless the Officers of the CIA!

    2. The consequences of Federal Court decisions may have been unintended, but they were not unforeseen, by those "In the Know"

  13. I hope to get some wolf pictures and post them here and really shove them up Deuce's ass.

  14. How would you like to have a Canadian monster grey wolf up your ass, Deuce?


  15. COURIC: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this — to stay informed and to understand the world?

    PALIN: I’ve read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media —

    COURIC: But what ones specifically? I’m curious.

    PALIN: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.

    COURIC: Can you name any of them?

    PALIN: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news.

    1. No wonder Low Information Bob has a woody for her.

    2. Goddamn four hour woodies are a bitch.

      I must see my physician.

      After four hours a woody can kill ya.

    3. I remember once on assignment going to Majorca with Q and Maria, Q had a woody the entire trip. Maria even went down on Q under my umbrella. No good. Didn't work.

      It was woody on and woody off.

      It was a little embarrassing.

      But Q seemed to enjoy himself.

      Maria was bored, finally.

      She said "O Quirkie, quit now."

  16. Pasky, Pisky, Posky and PuskySat Jun 21, 08:19:00 AM EDT

    That would be worse than having the IRS on your butt.

  17. Some assholes back in D.C. thought it would be a good idea to bring the greys down from Canada. Wayne disagrees. He has lost five cattle and two horses.

    Everyone is armed up now, to shoot the wolves 24/7/12.

    Fish and Game has asked for our help.

    We are willing to comply.

  18. This kind of wolf wolf was never even here before.


  19. Pasky, Pisky, Posky and PuskySat Jun 21, 08:27:00 AM EDT

    They're pesky bastards, for sure.

  20. “Never apologize, never explain”: The IRS brazens it out

    There are plenty of circumstances in which that pithy imperative —variously attributed to Disraeli, Queen VIctoria, and sundry other worthies — wins my admiration.

    “Never apologize, never explain”: I like the blunt, no-nonsense aroma it exudes, the hinted-at announcement that there will be no wallowing in unproductive self-recriminations or manufactured displays of contrition. There is a reason, I think, that the motto seems traceable to Victorian times: an era when manly forthrightness still had a prominent place in the economy of public life.
    But context is everything.

    It is one thing to say “Never apologize, never explain” as an adjunct or symptom of cultural self-confidence, quite another in an atmosphere of duplicity, evasion, or brazen contempt.

    IRS Commissioner John Koskinen presented a breathtaking example of the latter when he blithely admitted that the IRS had simply “recycled,” I.e., tossed out, physically destroyed, Lois Lerner’s malfunctioning hard drive that (he claimed) was unrecoverable. “I don’t think an apology is owed,” he told a stunned House Ways and Means Committee.

    Of course he doesn’t. Why should the head of an increasingly politicized government agency apology for the mendacity and obstructive behavior of his subordinates? As Barack Obama promised his acolytes on the eve of the 2008 election, he was out to “fundamentally transform the United States of America.”
    Remember that?

    One of the things he has managed to transform is the machinery of government. People have always been wary of agencies like the IRS, with their vast, often unappealable powers. But more and more people now fear and loathe them as instruments of political conformity and — it is not too strong a word — tyranny.

    David Camp, Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, spoke for many when he told the Commissioner, “You can blame it on a technical glitch, but it is not a technical glitch to mislead the American people. You say that you have ‘lost’ the emails, but what you have lost is all credibility.”

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    2. Just a mqtter of perspective, Doug.

      One side sees blunt, no-nonsense aroma it exudes, the hinted-at announcement that there will be no wallowing in unproductive self-recriminations or manufactured displays of contrition. that is to be commended.

      The other side's propagandists purport to see an atmosphere of duplicity, evasion, or brazen contempt.

      John Boehner and the Republicans in the House do not see an atmosphere of duplicity, evasion, or brazen contempt. . or they would take the actions, instigate the processes prescribed in the Constitution.

      The GOP is on board with the President, while their propagandists want to muddy the waters, but the men in and with the Constitutional power and authority to act, do NOTHING, because ...

      Doug tells us they are afraid of "Bad Press".

  21. Yeah, let's take a look at the platform of the President's enemies.

    1) Fighting against Healthcare for all

    2) Fighting against Voting Rights for all

    3) Fighting against Civil Rights for those of non-traditional sexual orientation

    4) Fighting against the Minimum Wage

    5) Fighting against Renewable Energy

    6) Fighting against Family Planning (even to the extent of opposing the right to Birth Control)

    7) Fighting against funding Education

    8) Fighting against Clean Air, Clean Water, and Safe Food

    9) Fighting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid

    1. He wants to sell heroin at the local pharmacy for Christ's sake.

      Rufus is a goner.

    2. Word of advice Bob, stop pushing the Q-tip in when you feel resistance.

    3. I am elated that Farmer Bob has no idea what you are talking about, City Girl Ruby.

  22. Pooooff !!!!!

    All the IRS e-mails are gone.

    Poooff !!!

    Just gone.


    The Obama Administration is a criminal enterprise.

    1. That's what happens when poooofs are given equal rights.

  23. .

    Impeachment by the House would be a wasted effort as long as Harry Reid controls the trial in the Senate.

    Were the GOP to take over the Senate in 2014, they or (I think) a special prosecutor appointed by them could (and IMO should) bring articles of impeachment.

    More worrisome is if the GOP took over or kept the Senate in 2016 and then took over the presidency. All talk of reform would end as the GOP would declare 'a mandate' then then use the Obama precedent to expand and forward their own agenda.

    Impeachment is always difficult given the narrow window available where both the power and the incentive to get anything done is available.

    The bottom line is we get stuck with the incompetents and the corrupt.

    1. Blessed are the Peacemakers...and the Winchester lever-actions

    2. 2/3rds Vote in Senate is required for Conviction.

    3. .

      That being said, I would still love to see articles of impeachment drawn by the House just to wipe the smug smile off Obama's face.

      The scandals in this administration are legion, the perfidy ubiquitous, yet in six years, not one functionary in this vast bureaucracy has been punished for their misdeeds (well, no except someone who has specifically challenged Obam publicly like McCrystal).

      Perfidy, lying, misrepresentation, the hallmarks of Obama's administration of lies.


    4. If Mitch McConnell had a 51 - 49 Majority in the Senate, he would still have to get 16 Democrats to vote to impeach.

      A cakewalk, I'm sure.

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    6. The lack of surety of convition in the Senate has never stopped the House, in the past.

      The fact that not President brought up on Articles of Impeachment has been convicted, does not indicate that in bringing the Charges the House failed in its Constitutional duties. Not tht the "Checks and Balances" prescribed in the Constitution failed to be applied. Only that there was not evidence enough to convict, in the Senate.

      Articles of Impeachment , they are a POLITICAL process, more so than a law enforcement one.

    7. The fact that notone President ...

  24. Yes, yes, we all know what the situation is, we all know the Constitution, and the votes required, etc.

    Nevertheless, Articles of Impeachment are proper at this time.

  25. Obama is a criminal and a fraud.

    It is disgusting.

    1. The Republicans are disgusting frauds,
      Their inaction is the indictment and the proof.

      Glad you are waking up, Bob

  26. Deuce had it right.

    When he first walked on Air Force One, Deuce said, "An empty suit."

    That was six years ago.

    1. And the Republicans but up the most inept and incompetent opponent possible to face him in 2012.

      The GOP is totally invested in the status que.

    2. Status que???????

      but up ???????????????????

    3. There are, by the way, many things I like about the "status que".

    4. Bob continues to dissemble and lieSat Jun 21, 11:00:00 AM EDT

      Federal Fascism, that is what Bob likes. Control of the economy, if it benefits Bob, he is in favor of it.

    5. Yeah, the most amazing thing in the world is to listen to a farmer complain about "big gubmint, and the welfare state."

    6. Fuck off, Rufus.

      I've been out of farming for two decades.

      I have explained my outlook on the farm programs at length.

      It is, simply, that if we are to have farm programs they should be targeted at young working farmers who actually can prove they need the help to get started.

      Fuck off, you drunken Cherokee.

    7. No thanks, you blood sucking drunken Cherokee.

      Blow yourself.

    8. Don't you have a wife, or a cousin, or a sister, or something around the swamp there to blow you?

      I find you extremely repugnant.

    9. The whites taught the Cherokee to read and write, and, like Caliban, all they can do is curse.

    10. Yeah, but longevity is in our genes; I hope to be around a while after you and your racist party are just a bad memory.

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    June 21, 2014
    IRS contracted with email archiving company in 2005
    By Thomas Lifson

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    Is that a smoking gun I smell? It turns out the IRS contracted with a company that provides email backup services starting in 2005. This first came to light in the Twitter feed of moregenr, who noticed that the IRS appears on the client list of email archiving service provider Sonasoft.

    This was was picked up by Peter Suderman of Reason, who writes:

    The IRS had a contract with email backup service vendor Sonasoft starting in 2005,according to, which lists the contract as being for "automatic data processing services." Sonasoft's motto is "email archiving done right," and the companylists the IRS as a customer.

    In 2009, Sonasoft even sent out a Tweet advertising its work for the IRS.

    The exact details of the service that Sonasoft provided to the IRS aren't clear. But the company advertises its email archiving solution as "ideal for small and medium businesses, government agencies, school districts, nonprofit organizations using Microsoft’s Exchange Server." And a document posted on its website describing its services says that its system "archives all email content and so reduces the risk of non-compliance with legal, regulatory and other obligations to preserve critical business content."

    Hat tip: Clarice Feldman

    1. Bob continues to dissemble and lieSat Jun 21, 11:02:00 AM EDT

      Then John Boehner should bring them into testify.
      He has the power and authority to do that. Mr Issa has the authority.

      But they just flap their gums..

  28. I find on my travels that the American Injuns are in a bad way these days.

    Everywhere I go it seems to be the same story.

    We was screwed they say. We long for the old days when we couldn't read nor write.

    When we had he women digging for camus roots and there was no law.

    They say these things as they drive around in Ford Pickups Trucks.

    I'm tired of their bullshit, and feel all the reservations should be abolished, and that they should compete in open society like all the rest of us.

    I have a friend here, a lawyer, who defended a red stick after he had killed and mutilated a white woman.

    He feels the same way.

    Put the reds all under our same law, and let them compete with the rest of us.

    They are, really, all the same bunch of paleolithics they were when we came.

    We taught them to read and write, and all we get is curses.

    From a Ford Pickup Truck.

    1. This lawyer was, of course, appointed by the Court, at the taxpayers expense.

    2. What you're really mad about is that there will be Indians here when you're dead and gone, prick.

    3. Goner for eternity, and there will still be Indians riding around in pickup trucks.

      Don't seem right, does it.

      Well, that's alright; they were here 10,000 years before your sorry, welfare-sucking lot showed up.

    4. I like my Hindu Niece.

      She competes.

      I hope that people like her are around forever.

      And, I have reason to hope, they will be.

      And she doesn't even have a car, much less a Pickup Truck.

      She has a used bike.

      And doesn't belly ache about her situation.

      I think I will go write her an e-mail now.

      She says 'write me every day, Uncle Bob'.

      So, I will.

    5. Just keep sending that money, sap.

      Maybe, she'll touch you in that little, private spot, again, some day.

      If you send enough money, that is.

    6. I can't unsee that visual. Thanks Rufus.

    7. Bob, you wonder why folk here call you a racist. Just read what you wrote and maybe you'll get a clue. Probably not though.

  29. Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama are standing at the throne of heaven. God looks at them and says, "Before granting you a place at my side, I must ask you what you have learned, what you believe in."

    God asks Bubba first: "What do you believe?"

    Clinton thinks long and hard, looks God in the eye, and says, "I believe in hard work, and in listening to my conscience. As you know, Lord, there were times when I was disloyal to my wife, and at those times I could hear a small voice telling me it was wrong, but I went ahead and betrayed her anyway. After many years I learned to listen to that voice, because it always warned me against doing something I will regret later.”

    God can't help but see the essential goodness of Bill and offers him a seat to his left. Then God turns to Bush and says, "What do you believe?"

    Dubya says, "I believe passion, discipline, courage and honor are the fundamentals of life. As President, some of my decisions were not the best as anyone could well see in hindsight, but win or lose, I learned that as a leader of a great nation it is important to embrace basic principles and never waver."

    God is greatly moved by Bush’s new-found eloquence and offers him a seat to his right.

    Finally, God turns to Obama: "And you, Barry, what do you believe?"

    Obama replies, "I believe you're in my seat."

  30. The largest U.S. Presbyterian church narrowly voted Friday to divest from three multinational corporations that it said supply Israel with products that promote violence in occupied Palestinian territories.

    The divestment, vehemently opposed by many of the nation's prominent Jewish organizations, and hailed by many pro-Palestinian activists, passed by seven votes after hours of tense and complex debate. It means the Presbyterian Church (USA) will sell its shares of Motorola Solutions, Caterpillar and Hewlett Packard, worth about $21 million.

    The vote at the church's biennial General Assembly, meeting this week in Detroit, was 310 to 303. It makes the 1.76-million member church the largest religious group to vote for divestment, an issue that has been fiercely debated in recent years among mainline Protestants. The Episcopal Church and . . . . . . .

    It begins

  31. Rufus is a disgusting piece of human trash.

    All he is is half Injun, half Jim Beam.

    1. With Beam predominating.

    2. And, that's your Ultimate epithet: "Half Injun."

      If you Really, Really want to put someone down, your default position is "race, ethnicity."

      You fit right in with the party of pathetic old fools.

    3. Rufus aint you the same cat that said something quite unholy about the Holy land and it's folks?

    4. Yes, I said that there is nothing "Holy" about the fucking place.

      I did retrace my steps, though, and state that although most of the politicians and religious leaders are pieces of shit, many of the ordinary people are, undoubtably, righteous.

  32. The Presbes have about as much influence as the Lutes, which is to say, ZERO

    Thank the Risen Christ.

    Both are shedding adherents even as I type.

  33. My Niece is half aryan, half nigger.

    She is the most wonderful deserving person I have had the true pleasure of meeting in a long, long time.

    You shove your racism card up your ass, you drunken Cherokee, descendant of slavers.

    1. You are an embarrassment to your family, Bob.

      No one likes you.
      No one wants you.
      Your own daughter has no respect for you.
      She just uses you to pay for her horse hobby.

      Your wife will not sleep with you, which is why who have four hour woodies.

      It makes us all feel so sad for your wife and daughter

    2. I don't want people to search on that word and find my selfie staring back at them out of this blog.

    3. You need to take that down, Deuce. We don't need the kind of grief that that can bring.

    4. But you used the term twat the other day? That's ok? Teresita Redinger? You used the term TWAT....

    5. my favorite album?

      Richard Pryor, That Nigger's Crazy album

    6. AnonymousSat Jun 21, 01:23:00 PM EDT
      You are an embarrassment to your family, Bob.
      No one likes you.
      No one wants you.
      Your own daughter has no respect for you.
      She just uses you to pay for her horse hobby.
      Your wife will not sleep with you, which is why who have four hour woodies.
      It makes us all feel so sad for your wife and daughter

      this typed by a guy who doesn't have a wife, and can't support a family, who never paid child support and professed to be be a hired killer....

      No wonder he smokes pot, shoots guns and smuggles in illegals for fun, sex slavery and profit...

      just call him "desert rat"

    7. desert rat is a figment of Bob's imaginationSat Jun 21, 02:09:00 PM EDT

      But what Anonymous wrote about Bob, is 100% correct

      He is an embarrassment to his family.
      His wife refuse to sleep with him

      Nothing that is written about a figment of Bob's imagination, a fiction, changes anything about Bob and his reality.

      He strikes out, blindly, against something that exists only in his own mind, a fiction.
      His entire life has become a fiction, he is a sad example of what happens when a life is wasted.

      -the bum who boasts that his great-grandfather was an empire-builder,

      This is a sample of racism.”
      - Ayn Rand

    8. But what Anonymous wrote about desert rat, is 100% correct

      He is an embarrassment to his family.
      His can't keep a wife .
      Never paid child support.
      Is a criminal.

      -the bum who boasts that he was a contract killer,

      This is a sample of racism.” - Teddy Roosevelt

  34. No surprise there Deuce, the BDS movement is losing ground everyday.

    A symbol victory? Naw... After all the Presbyterian Church is expected to continue it's decline in demographics. it's been projected to lose another 25% of it's members in the next 4 years alone.

    The PC(USA) maintains extensive statistics on its members.[25] Membership decreased by 4.83% in 2013,[1] continuing a three decade-long decline in membership for PC(USA).[26][27] Recent declines in numbers are consistent with the trends of most mainline Protestant denominations in America since the late 1960s. In 2013, Jan Armstrong, Executive Presbyter of the Presbytery of Santa Barbara, said that the most recent informal OGA (Office of the General Assembly) projections are for an anticipated loss of perhaps 500,000 members over the next 3–4 years, roughly 25% of the denomination's membership.

  35. They have been "at it" for over a decade.

    In June 2004, the General Assembly met in Richmond, Virginia and adopted by a vote of 431-62 a resolution that called on the church's committee on Mission Responsibility through Investment (MRTI) "to initiate a process of phased, selective divestment in multinational corporations operating in Israel."

    Nothing new here, just blowing smoke.... Trying to gain attention since it's bleeding members faster than hamas members blowing themselves up...

  36. Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) said on Friday that he planned to act administratively to expand health coverage in his state, defying the Republican-controlled legislature that maneuvered to block him from expanding Medicaid under Obamacare.

    The specifics of McAuliffe's plan aren't clear. But he vetoed an item in the Virginia budget Friday that would have required the legislature to approve any expansion and asserted that he planned to "move administratively" to expand coverage to as many as 400,000 low-income Virginians.

    On His Own

  37. Maybe this uber white radical liberal group of "christians" (and i do use that word loosely" should encourage some minorities to join.. At present it's over 92% white, maybe they should allow their daughters to date some of those Palestinians.

    They'd fit in in the country clubs driving those volvo's

    arm chair liberals... LOL

  38. . It means the Presbyterian Church (USA) will sell its shares of Motorola Solutions, Caterpillar and Hewlett Packard, worth about $21 million.

    Meanwhile America still prints 60 BILLION a month in quantitative easing, that's 60,000 million... LOL

  39. But you used the term twat the other day? That's ok? Teresita Redinger? You used the term TWAT....

    Tough Women Attack Team. You're welcome.

  40. When the whites first moved into here, all there was was open prairie and and a bunch of Injuns which they called prairie niggers, who were digging for camus roots with their sticks.

    Now we have building, schools, law enforcement and Universities with International Students.

    I like this much better than digging roots.

    I even would like to have a Ford Pickup Truck myself.

    I do not apologize for myself or my ancestors.

    The farmers and the law pushed out the paleolithic savages.

    We are all better off for it.

    1. We even sent a redstick out into space not too long ago, IIRC.

      Think of that.


    2. "-the bum who boasts that his great-grandfather was an empire-builder,

      This is a sample of racism.”

      This Bob, he proves the point. a fool he is, not to shut up and just move away ...

    3. Your ancestors Mercilessly Murdered the indigenous people that were peacefully, and without doing it harm, living off of the land.

      Now, you attempt to justify the theft, and murder, through the use of racial epithets.

    4. Rufus IISat Jun 21, 02:18:00 PM EDT
      Your ancestors Mercilessly Murdered the indigenous people that were peacefully, and without doing it harm, living off of the land.

      LOL Peaceful?

      Living of the land?

    5. Rufus IISat Jun 21, 02:18:00 PM EDT
      Your ancestors Mercilessly Murdered the indigenous people that were peacefully, and without doing it harm, living off of the land.

      Same can be said of the Arabs and what they did to the Jews in 700 ce....

  41. Over $2 trillion was pushed into the economy during Quantitative Easing 1 (QE1) and QE2. QE3 was generating $85 billion a month. The Fed said it will taper this gradually. It has been scaled back now, adding only about $55 billion a month. But with no end in sight, some have called it QE Infinity.

    sorry for the 5 billion mistake, but you now add into the qe series the pumping the other nations are doing...

    either why? you are screwed

  42. 700 CE= Current Era = 700 years after the birth of Christ = 700 AD = Anno Domini = 700 years after “the year of our Lord”

    As politically correct as you try, you come to the same place 700 years after the birth of Christ.

  43. A true friend of mine has died. He was 79. I did not know he was even ill. It happened suddenly.

    His grandfather was missionary to the Nez Perce here. Our families and farming here go way back.

    I almost grew up on their place in my youth, I was out there so much.

    I am going silent in his honor for awhile.

    He - and all his family - were and are wonderful people.

    He was Dutch.

    I am truly saddened.

  44. .

    You can say what you want about the Obama administration, corrupt, incompetent, mendacious, liars, it's all true. But when it comes down to it they are just too friggin goofy to be real.

    The latest: To stop the problem of children coming across the border, Joe Biden has gone to the Central American countries where they are coming from and offering those governments $250 million to make the problem go away. If it was just a bribe that would be understandable. It's what we do all the time. However, it is evidently being sold as an actual solution to the problem.

    You might as well take that newly minted $250 million and flush it down the toilet at the printing office. First, $250 million is way too small an amount for jobs programs or anything else that might keep these people in their own country. Second, the chances of that money actually getting spent on those programs is nil. The countries involved are pretty much run by the cartels.

    After a while, you just have to say fuck it, what's the point of worrying about it?


    1. Each one of these illegals is a future tax on the incomes of current working class US citizens, a call on benefits and a suppression of wages, a tax on housing, healthcare and social benefits.

  45. The eighth century was about a lot more than just what happened to the Jews.

    The expansion of Islamic domination peaked and was halted at Constantinople by the Byzantine Empire first at Toulouse and then at the Battle of Tours by 30,000 Christian Franks.

    The Viking raids Hit England, Ireland and the European costs into the med and by land through the Baltics inward.

    History was being made in China, Japan, India, the Pacific Islands and all through the Americas.