COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Monday, June 24, 2013

Top Senate Republican sounded the alarm ahead of a major test vote on Monday that could clear the way for passage of a sweeping immigration overhaul, saying the chamber was about to vote on a bill "no one has read." Lawmakers have since begun voting and should wrap up shortly after 6 p.m. ET.

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  1. Unbelievably, this vote can bring as many as 40 million new immigrants into the US and in the entire US Senate, not one of them has read the bill.

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  2. It is a bill to end debate on an amendment.

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  3. Senator Jeff Sessions, a Republican from Alabama, asked on the Senate floor why the body should vote to give majority leader and Nevada Democrat Harry Reid "procedural control" over the debate over the Gang of Eight's immigration bill. Sessions, speaking Monday afternoon against a motion to close debate on the bill, pointed out that the so-called Corker-Hoeven border security amendment to the immigration bill isn't really an amendment at all.

    "It was filed as a complete substitute to the whole [Gang of Eight] bill," Sessions said. Reid then moved to invoke cloture on the newly written immigration bill, effectively taking control of the amendment process by not allowing amendments from those senators seeking to offer their own amendments.

    "This is a vote this afternoon to give majority leader Reid procedural control of the debate," Sessions said. "It's his motion to shut off debate on a 1200-page substitute, 200 pages more than the bill we were looking at last week, and [one] no one has read." Watch the whole video below:

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  4. Let’s see how many Republicans vote for this and thus seal the fate of the US unless Boehner refuses to present the bill in the House.

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  5. The Republican Party deserves to be destroyed

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  6. Republicans who voted for the amendment and have to be run out of office, included:

    Sens. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.),
    Kelly Ayotte (N.H.),
    Jeff Chiesa (N.J.),
    Susan Collins (Maine),
    Bob Corker (Tenn.),
    Jeff Flake (Ariz.),
    Lindsey Graham (S.C.),
    John Hoeven (N.D.),
    Orrin Hatch (Utah),
    Dean Heller (Nev.),
    Mark Kirk (Ill.),
    John McCain (Ariz.),
    Lisa Murkowski (Alaska),
    Marco Rubio (Fla.)
    Roger Wicker (Miss.).

    Wicker said although he voted for moving forward with the amendment, he is still likely to vote against final passage of the bill.

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  7. Come to think of it, I really don't much like Germans, or Rawandans.

    From my reading of recent history they are two groups of apes, different color is all.

    What do you think?

    The Germans come to my mind as always invading France, bombing London, invading Poland, invading Russia and killing Jews Slavs and Gyspies.

    I think my niece is showing some very good sense.

    Told you she smart.

    I read a long article once about Rawanda. They go on these killing sprees about once every thirty or forty years as the population builds. Been going on for a hell of a long time.

    But here all we talk about is some puppet play in Israel.

    Doesn't make any sense to me but then I'm a racist.

    Rufus said so, the big guy that can kill you in the night.

    bob

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    1. How did this get here, that was last thread.

      That was the thread where Rufie was going to off Q.

      bob

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    2. Now, look you crazy old motherfucker; you say things like that, and someone who hadn't read the previous thread might believe it. You get mad when someone tells you the way it is, but you're always the one that starts the bullshit. Quit it.

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  9. My Representative Labrador is voting against this bill.

    Now call me a racist for not wanting MY COUNTRY to be swamped by 40 million illiterates. Whom I will have to pay for.

    I am willing to pay for, and will, as a racist, my Hindu niece, on my own dime.

    She is working at the Max Planck Institute of Brain Research in Hamburg, Germany today.

    What are we doing?

    And no, I have never even thought to fuck her, as our cretans crapper and Ashole have implied.

    What I am up to is trying to get her a car.

    bob

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      Hohohohoho.

      What Bullshit!!!

      I posted what was really up with Bunny on the last stream.

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    2. And, asshole, I never called her bunny. What I asked was whether or not it was couth or uncouth to think even of her as 'Rabbit'. It was our psychologically challenged moderator who suggested this name. And in the spirit of fun and levity I agreed.

      Are you working at the Max Planck Institute of Brain Research or just passing more gas today?

      bob

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    3. The reference was to Hemingway, dumb ass, but I knew you would not get it.

      Go search.

      bob

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      Today we have on display folks the Bob I truly love, a first rate scamp and story teller.

      What wonderful bullshit!!!!!

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      The reference was to Hemingway, dumb ass, but I knew you would not get it.

      You may think it was Hemingway, you may even insist upon it, but deep down in that troubled brain of yours you know that you were referring to Mary Chase the author of the play and the movie of the same name Harvey, and the rabbit you refer to is well...Harvey...a six foot three invisible rabbit, a mere figment of the imagination some would say, and yet...

      But as I say your tale is all 'wonderful bullshit'.


      http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1672216857/

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      Are you working at the Max Planck Institute of Brain Research or just passing more gas today?

      No and no. But then, who really is working there?

      You offer us a phantasmagorical story that no one could really believe.

      On the previous stream, at

      QuirkMon Jun 24, 03:47:00 PM EDT

      I offered an alternate reality, the story of Bottaboop Bhattacharya, a young Indian girl born to wealth and pleasure who at an early age suffers the death of her parents in the Punjabi salt riots. A child, who through the machinations of her evil uncles, is forced into a Rosicrucian monastery in the mountains of the Hindu Kush where she flowers into womanhood dreaming of nothing but brain reasearch.

      But even this brief idyll is interupted when she is forced out of the monestary and into a marriage with Raj Proctoharhmi, an untouchable albeit a handsome brute with perverse appetites. Other than the sex, Bottaboop had nothing to comfort her but the far off dream of brain research.

      Eventually, she escapes with the help of some church ladies and devises a plan to make her dream of becoming a world famous brain researcher come true. The story continues and explains how she eventually meets her 'Uncle Bob' from Idaho who helps her finally achieve her dream of attending the Max Plank Institute for Brain Research.

      It's a wonderful story, and more believable than the bullshit (albeit wonderful bullshit) you've been posting. But this summary doesn't do it justice, you should read it in full.

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    7. Ha ha hHA!

      I don't even know Mary Chase.

      Is she chaste?

      Uncle bob wants to know.

      hehhee

      And my bunny is not invisible. She is all 'too there' but only for White Buffalo Eyes.

      But you would not get my reference.

      Sorry.

      bob

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    8. O hell I will tell you, it is a reference to an old myth by the Plains Indians.

      One man was looking with lust at a pure maiden taking a bath in a pool, and the other fellow was not.

      White Buffalo Woman zapped the first and let the other live.

      Just an 'old myth'.

      bob

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      Just an 'old myth'

      Just as your tale of the Indian lady is myth, all bubblegum and moonbeams, a tale to comfort an old man as he sips his whiskey and muses on things long past.

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    10. Yes Quirk-o, she works at the Max Planck Institute of Brain Research in Hamburg, Germany. And she needs a car. Want to contribute?

      Send checks or money orders to:

      Bob
      Box 1
      Idaho

      I am so sorry nothing like this happens in your life.

      If I don't get checks I will cover the cost myself. She is my niece.

      bob

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      Two weeks ago, you called me a liar.

      Nothing I could do about it. No way to prove it one way or the other. It had suddenly become a matter of 'he said'-'she said' with you obviously being the 'she' in the equation.

      Now, you present us with a silly little story of bear hugs and bubblegum kisses, of abuse and brain research.

      The least I can do is return the favor.

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    12. Myth is reality, dumb shit, it speaks of things unspoken but hoped for.

      Go to bed now and get some sleep.

      You really need your rest.

      bob

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      Gee, Uncle Bob, I'm in the middle of reading the Economist. Can't I stay up a little longer?

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    14. I really do not what you are talking about Q. I may have called you many things but I cannot recall calling you a liar. Please refresh, and if I did so I will apologize.

      bob

      I must go to bed now.

      But I wish you to know my niece really does work at the Max Planck Institute for Brain Research in Hamburg, Germany.

      It is not a paying job, it is just research. But that is where she is. She does brain scans and stuff.

      I guess you can believe me or Buffalo Woman.

      Up to you dude.

      bob

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    15. The kind of research she is doing is scanning human brains and applying that to human brains that are losing sight.

      But you would not able to see that.

      bob

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    16. be able, asshole

      bob

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  10. Ah. dumb shit, let Rufie have his way then.

    And I was going to offer you a loan for body armor.

    All works out for the best, as my niece told me, you will be dead and Rufie in prison.

    bob

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  11. The attempt by Edward Snowden to escape the clutches of US authorities descended into farce when the 30-year-old surveillance whistleblower outpaced the world’s biggest intelligence apparatus in a round-the-world chase that was still under way on Monday.

    Washington could barely disguise its fury at the manner in which Snowden was hustled out of Hong Kong, despite the US having revoked his passport and demanded his detention. The White House made it clear that China-US relations had been placed under great strain.

    The whereabouts of Snowden were unclear on Monday night. Journalists who boarded a flight from Moscow to Havana, a suspected lay-over stop a journey to Ecuador, reported that they could not see the former National Security Agency contractor on the plane, despite reports that he had checked in. Later the plane arrived in Cuba without any sign of Snowden.

    Jay Carney, the White House spokesman, was sharply critical of Hong Kong's decision to allow Snowden to leave. He said the administration did not believe the explanation that it was a "technical" decision by Hong Kong immigration authorities. "The Hong Kong authorities were advised of the status of Mr Snowden's travel documents in plenty of time to have prohibited his travel as appropriate. We do not buy the suggestion that China could not have taken action."

    Speaking in Dehli on Monday, US secretary of state John Kerry expressed frustration that China had failed to detain Snowden. "It would be deeply troubling, obviously, if they had adequate notice, and notwithstanding that, they make the decision wilfully to ignore that and not live by the standards of the law."

    Carney said the US was working on the assumption that Snowden was still in Russia, and said the administration was urging the authorities in Moscow to turn Snowden over to the US. "We have a strong co-operative relationship with the Russians on law enforcement matters," Carney said, in remarks that were notably less pointed than those directed at China. "We have known where he is and believe we know where he is now," Carney said.

    Amid farcical scenes at Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow, an Aeroflot flight to Havana, packed with journalists, took off apparently without him. As the Airbus A330 began to roll back from the gate, Nikolai Sokolov, an Aeroflot gate employee, said: "He's not on board."

    Around two dozen journalists settled in for the 12-hour journey on flight SU150 to Havana – a service on which no alcohol is served.

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      No alcohol?

      This could have turned ugly.

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      I'm sorry. I know Snowden is guilty of a crime and we should be rooting for him to get caught.

      However, I take guilty pleasaure in seeing the frustration of these same people who have been lying to us for decades, day in and day out, as they are lied to in turn.

      Humor is best when it's ironic.

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    3. The Economist is just a waste of good wood and I can understand why you would read it.

      uncle bob

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    4. You are, after all, not doing brain research in Hamburg, Germany.


      uncle bob

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  12. So far we have one vote for Snowden as a Hero and one vote as a Traitor.

    Remember your vote will be on public record and say a lot about you.

    Deuce seems to have indicated a leaning but has not cast his vote yet, at least formally.

    bob

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    1. Quirk is as usual turning tail and running into the arms of the 'authorities'.

      bob

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    2. >>>I know Snowden is guilty of a crime and we should be rooting for him to get caught.<<<


      This from the Schmee that warned us of the coming National Security State.

      Fucking unbelievable.

      bob

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    3. And he is always bullshitting us about the 'sheeple' from his seat on the park bench across from the Police Station.

      bob

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    4. Detroit must REALLY suck.

      bob

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    5. You won't find Quirk picking his nose out there on the Essex estate.

      bob

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    6. All a man can do Rufie is act on this best instincts.

      bob

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    7. This last was meant as a joke and a play on words from Rufie's comments of a couple days ago.

      But by God Quirk you are nuts and read too many stupid novels.

      Your friend, and former commander, bob

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    8. AnonymousTue Jun 25, 12:24:00 PM EDT
      You won't find Quirk picking his nose out there on the Essex estate.

      This is a reference to Shakespeare.

      bob

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    9. Who saw everything.

      I am hoping for a call or email from my niece which is the most meaningful thing that could happen to me today.

      bob

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