Hat Tip: Quirk
One of the rewarding things about hosting this blog is the discovery of people and events that do not receive the attention that they deserve in most of the media. Quirk brought Ian Morris to our attention yesterday. I think you will enjoy this.
February 25, 2013
The Shape of History
Ian Morris, historian on a grand scale
Boulder Creek, Calif.
In the summer of 2011, Ian Morris gave what most of his fellow classics professors would consider an unusual talk. The setting: CIA headquarters. The subject: humanity's future.
Until recently, intelligence analysts had taken no interest in Morris. The Stanford University professor is an authority on ancient Greece who turned to archaeology after failing as a heavy-metal guitarist. Morris makes his home as far from Washington bureaucracy as you can imagine: atop a ridge in this hippie town in the Santa Cruz Mountains, surrounded by towering redwoods and a menagerie of two dogs, two horses, and eight cats.
Yet the British-born 53-year-old is increasingly swapping this world of kale chips and hugs for the company of bankers and spooks. Their interest stems from his 2010 book Why the West Rules—for Now (Farrar, Straus & Giroux), which analyzes 15,000 years of data to explain how the West came to dominate the globe over the past two centuries. Its backbone is an attempt to quantify, going back to the end of the last Ice Age, the "social development" of Eastern and Western societies—basically, their ability to get stuff done.
If that isn't chutzpah enough, the final chapter goes further. It predicts the future.
Hence the summons to Langley. Morris gave a seminar about his data to a dozen people connected with the National Intelligence Council, which publishes a global trends report after each presidential election to guide the incoming administration. By Morris's calculations, the "Western age" will end by 2103, with the East regaining the development lead.
But Morris encouraged his CIA audience to see the bigger picture. Throughout history, the development of societies has spawned forces that disrupted them. As Morris has written, the empires of ancient Rome and Han China "set off migrations, wars, famines, and plagues that brought them down." Today development promises to reach astonishing levels. By his calculations, it will grow "twice as much between now and 2050 as in the previous 15,000 years," and double again by 2100.
That means the rest of the 21st century won't be just a shinier, faster version of the present. It will boil down to a race. Either technology will change what it means to be human, possibly rendering most of today's problems irrelevant, or an Armageddon induced by climate change will destroy civilization first.
As Morris tells me this story, he seems unalarmed. It's a Tuesday afternoon, and the professor is walking his dogs, Fuzzy and Milo, around the woods near his house, 30 miles south of Palo Alto. Should doomsday arrive, this mountain ridge feels like a fine place to hunker down and survive. It used to be a pot-growing commune in the 60s. Now it supports an evolving cast of animals, plus a vegetable garden and plenty of wild mint for mojitos.
At 6-foot-3, Morris has the sturdy build of a steelworker or a miner—his grandfather's and father's jobs—with short gray hair, large ears, and a warm smile that spreads laugh lines around his eyes. The professor tends to smile while spinning these prophecies of cyberrevolution and collapse, a quirk that led one interviewer to joke that he must be "barking mad."
Now he throws back his head and laughs. "It's probably all going to be fine!"
If Morris's predictions sound more like science fiction than scholarship, that's just one way his work upends basic beliefs about how scholars should study the human past.
Morris inverts the historian's conventional method of tunneling into archives to answer narrow questions. Instead, he broadens the story beyond the 5,000 years of written history by drawing on fields like archaeology, linguistics, and genetics.
With his camera pulled way back, many subjects that concern historians—great men and women, blundering fools, blind accident, culture, beliefs—fade in importance. What emerges is the full "shape of history," a story forged largely by biology and geography.
Social behavior boils down to the "Morris Theorem": "Change is caused by lazy, greedy, frightened people looking for easier, more profitable, and safer ways to do things." These people are much the same everywhere. Their societies develop along similar paths. Geography explains different outcomes. "Maps, not chaps," as Morris likes to say.
"The agency of individuals actually matters much less than historians tend to assume," Morris tells me. "It's hard to find any examples of decisions made by single individuals that really changed the big story very much—until you get into the 20th century, when you've got nuclear weapons."
Morris's success at finding an audience for that big story comes at a time of anxiety about the waning influence of historians, whose work is often hyperspecialized. Kenneth Pomeranz, president of the American Historical Association, recently lamented that "our space in the public sphere has been diminished to the benefit of fields like economics."
Why the West Rules won praise in publications like The Economist and theFinancial Times, which called it "the first history of the world that really makes use of what modern technology can offer to the interpretation of the historical process." Even so, Morris is finding that many fellow historians react to the book's emphasis on geography "like a bull to a red rag." A profile in Stanford magazine reported that, during one campus visit in Michigan, Morris "made one of the local historians so angry he could barely speak."
So he's taunting them some more. In January, he published a new book,The Measure of Civilization (Princeton University Press), which presents the evidence and methods used to build the index in Why the West Rules.
Morris feels "pretty optimistic" that critics won't be able to pull his book to pieces. But he's already moved on to the next provocation. Next March he'll publish another millennia-spanning epic, War! What Is it Good For?That approach follows the playbook laid out by an earlier classic of quantitative history,Time on the Cross. A controversial study that purported to show the economic efficiency and relatively benign conditions of slavery,Time on the Crossappeared as two volumes in 1974, one for general readers and a second for data-minded scholars. The authors, Robert Willian Fogel and Stanley L. Engerman, enjoyed tremendous publicity. But scholars pounced on their evidence, and the critiques helped deflate the quantification vogue within history.
His answer? It's been good for making the world a safer and richer place.
The evening after our walk in the woods, Morris descends from his mountain ridge to preach the gospel of Big History before one of its most receptive audiences: students.
Morris is a popular professor at Stanford, known for his role in converting a lackluster classics department into a poster child for humanities enrollment growth. Tonight, about 60 freshmen gather in the first-floor lounge of a dorm called Florence Moore Hall, or "FloMo," to hear him speak. His goal is to explain why these children of the 90s should care about the ancient world.
When Morris was their age, he didn't care much himself. He grew up in the decaying industrial city of Stoke-on-Trent. Pottery-making was mechanized there in the 1760s; nearly 200 years later, its remains afforded Morris his earliest archaeological experiences.
By the time he got to college, though, heavy metal obsessed him more than old vases. Morris sent his demo tape to Iron Maiden in 1979, when the soon-to-be-world-famous band was advertising for a new guitarist. They passed. But he did play professionally for another band called Expozer. When that failed, he got serious about ancient Greece.
Morris trained at the knee of a Cambridge don named Anthony Snodgrass, rising to become one of the most-cited ancient historians, but he still communicates with the cheeky informality of someone trying to reach an 18-year-old headbanger.
"Say I'm the king," Morris says, "and it's 1000 BC, and I want to go and make war on another dorm."
It's nearly 7 p.m. The quarter is ending. The couches are packed. The room is stuffy. But the students are smiling.
"I don't have a big bureaucracy to organize this," Morris continues. "So I just say to you, OK, folks, show up on Wednesday night, and we'll go and kill everybody in the other dorm. I'm not going to pay you. We're just going to go over there and steal all their stuff."
Morris spins this murderous fantasy to set the stage for a momentous period of history: the Axial Age.
The idea, detailed in Why the West Rules, is that an intellectual revolution takes place between 800 and 200 BC. Confucianism and Daoism in China. Buddhism and Jainism in India. The Hebrew Bible and Greek philosophy in the West. From East Asia to the Mediterranean, new systems of thought emerge that shape how billions of people make sense of the world for millennia to come.
All share a notion of transcendence. Reaching this superior realm involves a process of self-fashioning. Live ethically. Renounce desire. Do unto others. Practice these principles in your personal life, the thinking goes, and you will change the world.
Morris sums it up with a three-word bumper sticker he once saw in Boulder Creek: "Compassion Is Revolution."
The notion of an Axial Age—meaning the centuries around 500 BC formed an axis around which history turned—originated with the German philosopher Karl Jaspers after World War II. But Morris takes it further with a basic question: Why? Why all these upheavals at one time across this enormous area?
With a fusillade of rapid-fire typing, the students record his answer on their laptops: the shift away from "godlike kings."
The moral order of society had rested on rulers who claimed privileged access to the gods—"hotlines to superhumans," as Morris puts it. But after 1000 BC, he says, people across Eurasia begin to question that system. "Cosmological angst" descends on the intellectuals. We're cut off from the transcendental realm, they think. What to do?
Axial thought emerges as a response to this problem, says Morris, a way that people themselves can reconnect to the transcendental.
That's the intellectual story. But why is that happening? Why do people start questioning godlike kings in the first place?
In Morris's telling, the answer isn't so much culture. It's material forces.
From the Mediterranean to China, he says, population at least doubles between 1000 and 500 BC. Social problems explode. One result is a change in the organization of societies.
The old way of doing things—illustrated by the dorm-raiding story—breaks down. Godlike kings morph into something "more like a CEO." These manager-kings control states with big bureaucracies, taxes, and armies.
Long story short, as godlike kings give way to high-end states, an "intellectual vacuum" opens that gets filled by Axial Age thinkers. And their ideas, "countercultural" at first, eventually get co-opted by shrewd rulers.
"This is why the ancient world is important," Morris says. "You go from these little disorganized societies to these big, really organized societies. In the process, you create this Axial thought that lays the intellectual foundations for the next 2,000 years."
The Axial story follows a pattern that Morris sees again and again throughout history: As levels of social development rise, the new age gets the culture it needs.
Brute biological forces, broad comparisons, bumper-sticker simplicity—this is the Morris method in microcosm. But neat narratives palatable to undergrads are red meat for critics.
The political theorist Francis Fukuyama appreciates Morris's large-scale approach. But Fukuyama faults him for failing to take into account shorter-term causes of important events. Religion, culture, and ideas are important in their own right, he says. They aren't just offshoots of material conditions.
In Max Weber's classic argument, for example, the Protestant Reformation shaped the development of capitalism and the modern world, giving rise to individualism and a literate culture.
"That's not at all central to Ian's argument," Fukuyama says. "And in many respects he, like a lot of other more materialist interpreters, going back to people like Marx, would simply regard the idea as somehow being generated by the material conditions of early 16th-century Europe."
"He tends to take ideas less seriously," Fukuyama adds. "I'm kind of in between. I think that the material conditions are obviously important in a lot of cases. But I just think that if that's all you've got in your model, you're not going to really explain some really important developments in human history, such as the rise of the modern world."
Others complain about the geography at the heart of Morris’s model—the idea that you can talk about "East" and "West" as distinct entities over 15,000 years. In Morris's story, civilization goes back to the domestication of plants and animals after the last Ice Age. "West" means societies descended from the westernmost Old World region where farming initially began, in modern Turkey and Iraq, which got a head start on domestication thanks to favorable geography. "East" means societies derived from the easternmost area of origin, in what is now China, where farming started about 2,000 years later.
Why the West Rules traces the expansion of those cores and the complicated interactions between social development and geography. The fact that Portugal, Spain, France, and Britain protruded into the Atlantic was long a geographical disadvantage, for example. By the 15th century, the rise of guns and oceangoing ships had changed that location into an enormous asset for Western Europeans, enabling them to more easily colonize and plunder the New World.
But to Pomeranz, a China expert at the University of Chicago, Morris's ideas of East and West "just go too far in collapsing very, very internally complex entities into a single unit." Too much of the world doesn't fit into Morris's "East" and "West," or pops in and out of them. What about Vietnam, a former French colony? Or India? Or most of Africa?
Another criticism: Morris's index of "social development" doesn't withstand scrutiny. The index measures a society's "ability to master its physical and intellectual environment to get things done," according to Morris. It draws on four criteria: energy capture, social organization, information technology, and war-making capacity. In Why the West Rules, graphs function like the scoreboard of a never-ending basketball game—West is up! East pulls ahead!—and the long-term tally shows West leading East for 14 of the last 15 millennia.
But Pomeranz sees a fatal flaw in the index's design: "There's been too much change." Certain things have to remain constant for an index to be meaningful, he explains. If you're measuring two contemporary societies, and the difference between them is 10 points, then if you want to use the same scale to talk about 1,000 years ago, a 10-point difference has to mean something roughly comparable. If too much has changed, it breaks down.
Now consider the difference between a 15th-century cannon and an 18th-century cannon—hugely important at the time—versus the difference between an 18th-century cannon and the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
"Certain things have changed so dramatically in the last 200 years, particularly since the fossil-fuel revolution, that they're going to dwarf everything that comes before," says Pomeranz. The problem with Morris's index is that he "tries to do too much with it across too great a space, and consequently it just doesn't work."
Morris is hardly the first Big History analyst to weather a backlash. Some critics heaped scorn on the biologist and geographer Jared Diamond, whose Guns, Germs, and Steel traced the roots of modern inequality to environmental factors. Scientists felt that Diamond "washed over the details that make cultures unique to assemble a grand unified theory of history," as the The New York Times put it.
But big-thinking amateurs can also change fields beyond their home turf. Diamond's discipline-violating work made an important impact in development economics, Fukuyama notes, forcing specialists to reconsider some of their arguments.
Morris once again operates on a grand scale in his forthcoming war book, which ranges from the violence of our chimpanzee cousins to the coming world of nanoweapons that dissolve targets into gray slime.
And his big argument is bound to upset a lot of people.
"What sort of person goes around saying that mass murder has a good side?" Morris asks over a glass of Redwood Ale at a bar back in Boulder Creek. "The sort of person who's been very surprised by the results of his research."
That research starts from one of the big social-science findings of recent decades. In Stone Age societies, 10 to 20 percent of the population died violently. Yet by the 20th century, despite two world wars, the Holocaust, and nuclear weapons, only 1 to 2 percent did. What explains that decline?
The Harvard cognitive scientist Steven Pinker wrestled with similar questions in his 2011 book The Better Angels of Our Nature. But Morris claims Pinker didn't "bring enough historical firepower to bear." If you take the long view, he says, you're forced to face a paradoxical explanation for the decline in violence: war.
War creates bigger societies, either through conquest or because groups unite from fear of it. Rulers of these societies suppress internal violence.
"As these societies get bigger and bigger," Morris says, "the number of people running around whacking each other on the head all the time goes down. And the world becomes a more peaceful place."
It becomes richer, too: Evidence suggests that the standard of living rises as societies get bigger and more integrated.
But the evolution of war, like biological evolution, is a "messy process." What Morris calls "productive war"—the kind that makes bigger and safer societies—can often turn "counterproductive," breaking up states.
And by the 20th century, there were enough nukes to kill everyone on the planet. "The environment had changed so much," says Morris, "that the kinds of productive war that had shaped history for 10,000 years no longer worked."
So where does that leave us?
The big story goes back to what Morris said at the CIA. If you buy his projections—based on the conservative assumption that social development continues at 20th-century rates—the implications seem inconceivable.
By 2100 we will see cities with 140 million people. Robots will wage war. Humans, whose bodies have changed more in the last 100 years than in the previous 100,000, will "transcend biology."
The futurist Ray Kurzweil calls this merger of human and machine intelligence "the Singularity." Morris suggests that something like that may create new ways of capturing energy, communicating, thinking, fighting, working, loving, aging, and reproducing.
Unless, he says, we never get there. The paradox of development is that it produces forces that can cause catastrophe, if not managed properly. Climate change, Morris says, may be the "ultimate example." The very fossil fuels that propelled social development upward after 1800 are now causing global warming.
But like earlier periods of climate change, Morris predicts, "this one will not directly cause collapse." The truly scary thing is how people might react to the weather. Climate change could unleash famine, enormous migrations, disease, and perhaps even nuclear war.
And there's the rub. Past empires were regional. So were the impacts of their collapses.
"The big scary thing now is that the entire world has become one big experiment," Morris says. After the Roman Empire fell, he points out, it took 1,600 years for western Eurasia to climb back to the level of development that the Romans had enjoyed. "That's a pretty catastrophic fall, but of course the Romans didn't have nuclear weapons. The potential is there for a much more disastrous collapse."
Which means the next few decades will be the most important in history.
Marc Parry is a staff reporter for The Chronicle.
Sharpton’s Favorite Lawyer Facing Rape Charges After Sharpton Party
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Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.
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For once there’s a crime involving Al Sharpton that does not actually involve Sharpton. This is a real step up.
Sanford Rubenstein needs a lawyer. The high-powered attorney has been accused of raping a woman at his Manhattan home following the Rev. Al Sharpton’s 60th birthday bash Wednesday, the Daily News has learned.
The alleged incident took place at Rubenstein’s swanky E. 64th St. apartment hours after Sharpton’s star-studded party at the Four Seasons restaurant in Manhattan, law enforcement sources told The News.
The alleged victim is a 42-year-old executive who has ties to Sharpton, sources said.
Sanford would be the 3rd most popular arrest target for the NYPD after Al Sharpton and Bill de Blasio. He’s basically the law half of the Sharpton team jumping in with a lawsuit.
If there’s a racially aggravated case involving the NYPD, e.g. Abner Louima, Amadou Diallo, you can bet that Sanford was there. He had just fastened his teeth into the Eric Garner case.
Known for his dapper suits and frequent press conferences, Rubenstein has been front and center on many of the city’s most shocking police brutality cases.
He represented police-torture victim Abner Louima in his civil suit against the city. The case was settled in July 2001 for a stunning $7.1 million, the largest police brutality payout in city history at the time.
The Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association paid Louima an additional $1.6 million as part of the settlement.
There’s a lot of drinks being passed around in cop bars. Meanwhile Sharpton has already announced that he knows nothing.
“National Action Network and Rev. Al Sharpton was made aware by media that a NAN top official made allegations against Sanford Rubenstein. National Action Network and Rev. Al Sharpton has not been notified or advised by any official investigating authorities. The allegations as reported occurred at a private residence after a NAN event and had nothing to do with NAN nor Rev. Al Sharpton, therefore we have no comment at this time.”
Another profile in courage.
'War (strife) is the creator of all great things'
ReplyDeleteOne of the old Greeks whose name I can't recall. Was, basically, just a fragment......hard to say much about it.
Some people actually like war. Patton comes to mind.
The majority of the people do not, especially the ones who have been through it.
Bob,
DeleteWhen winning, people love war. It's like football on a grand scale. It's like Mayan soccer: the losing team gets the knife.
I don't like war.
DeleteI don't want war.
However I refuse to die on my knees after watching my children be slaughtered.
Despite the cost in American lives and wealth, the American people exited WWII with a bounce in its step. Victory has this effect.
Delete... just in ...
ReplyDelete"Sweden clarifies: Will recognize Palestinian state only after negotiations"
Don't hold your breath.
:-)
So the PA and Hamas forming a UNITY government that supports the illegal import of weapons of war and genocide of the Jews both of Israel and the world are in violation of the Oslo Accords.
Delete"The conflict between Israel and Palestine can only be resolved through a two-state solution," the Tel Aviv-based Embassy of Sweden said in a statement on Sunday, clarifying that any recognition will go hand in hand with with negotiations, "in accordance with the principles of international law."
Returning to the negotiating table must take into account the concerns and demands of both the Palestinians and the Israelis for "national self-determination and security," the statement said, adding that a two-state solution calls for mutual recognition and "a will" to live side by side in peace.
Only then, Sweden says, will it recognize Palestinian statehood.
If the Palestinians seek a state without negations? Go for it. Unilateral actions can work both ways.
I support the Arabs of Palestine, creating a Jew Free nation, with death to it's citizens for selling lands to Jews. The Palestinians have every right to form whatever piece of shit nation they choose to. AND they have every right to have mutual defense treaties with any nation, even those with formal declarations of war against Israel. OF course, the moment that Palestine is formed and a mutual defense treaty is announced with any nation that is formally at war with Israel? The newly formed nation should be destroyed totally.
You have the right to anything you wish, but others have the right to fight back too...
something that is certain. Israel has to become part of the larger geographical geopolitical area that it has chosen to occupy. If it resists that singular survivable option is ceases to exist. If it chooses to use nuclear weapons to ensure its survivability, it ceases to exist.
ReplyDeleteAll your Judaic bravado cannot break from the numbers and size model occupied by Israel.
Israel less the middle east with the model of plurality and diversity.
DeleteIF the 899/900th of the middle east is an insane, death cult this still does not reflect on Israel other than Israel's self defense.
Your choice of words of course, still show your hatred and bias. "Israel has to become part of the larger geographical geopolitical area that it has chosen to occupy."
Israel does not "occupy" it's land, it exists within it's lands.
It doesn't have to turn into a dysfunctional, hate filled death cult to "fit in" with the rest of the neighborhood.
" If it resists that singular survivable option is ceases to exist."
Nonsense. Israel doesn't have to opt of your option.
"If it chooses to use nuclear weapons to ensure its survivability, it ceases to exist."
If it is threatened with genocide the those that threaten the genocide will be destroyed. Just as America used atomic weapons, Israel will use whatever it needs to use to ensure it's survival. America has spent trillions of dollars fighting 23 islamic goat fuckers with box cutters. Cost the lives of who knows the real number....
As for my Judaic Bravado? hardly, it's just a promise that we will not be murdered AGAIN without a fight.
Never Again means just that.
The enemies of Israel can hid under neonatal incubators for all I care. They can hid under master works of art, they can even store weapons under a Koran, all bullshit.
No matter.
Those that are seeking the genocide of the Jewish people will not go without a fight...
No bravado, just a promise
What is "Occupation"Sun Oct 05, 12:50:00 PM EDT
DeleteIsrael less the middle east with the model of plurality and diversity.
What is "Occupation"Sun Oct 05, 12:50:00 PM EDT
Israel LEADS the middle east with the model of plurality and diversity.
"Israel has to become part of the larger geographical geopolitical area that it has chosen to occupy."
DeleteSuch rhetoric shows that you have no genuine interest in a peaceful resolution. Israel is occupying nothing and until such time as a treaty can be reached, the Mandate of 1922 is still in effect. And, yes, I know the Brits violated their own vote in the League of Nations within months by illegally creating Jordan as a payoff. That does not render the Mandate null and void. Indeed, the ICJ has rejected three attempts by the Palestinians to overcome this obstacle.
As to the state of Israel surviving, who can say. Jews, on the other hand, will be ever present. What I can say is that within another two years two more Israeli submarines will be at sea. They are boomers. Their job is payback. While I know the thought is repugnant to you, Israel has as much right as any other state, say, the U.S., to have at hand a deterrent. You and the world will have to live with that. To you personally, you again will never be able to gloat about cowardly Jews dying without a fight (that is so sick) -- by the way, 6,000,000 Poles suffered the same fate in the same way.
Let's remember as well, Deuce's horror at the "cowardly" IDF striking Hamas with Airplanes and missiles and not fighting "man to man"
DeleteRubbish. Use your own history. How did so many Jewish enclaves exist for so long in so many Islamic majority countries? What changed that? Did the carve-out of Israel help them or hurt them? Did the mass migration of Europeans to the carve-out and the displacement of indigenous Palestinians help them or hurt them?
DeleteDose the unquestioned, but temporary, US support help or would Israel be far better off making itself a better neighbor without the US? Do you believe that US support, as structured, will always be there?
Do you believe that the eight million Israelis will have a technological advantage in military weaponry over all of its billion and a half neighbors forever?
I don’t gloat over the foolishness of the European Jews that trusted the early Brown Shirts and Nazis to come to their senses.
The Nazis started in the hundreds. They were street thugs and bullies. In the early stages, the Jews had the power, the numbers and the political and economic capital to resist and destroy them. My comment was in response to the accusation that the US did not do enough to save the Jews. My comment was that, like the Kurds, the first responsibility of a people is to do everything in their power to protect their selves and their own. It is a historic fact of life and death. Tragically, it was a monumental error of not having enough street smarts by the Jewish ruling class in Europe. It had nothing to do with the US.
More Rubbish:
DeleteLet’s remember as well, Deuce’s horror at the “cowardly” IDF striking Hamas with Airplanes and missiles and not fighting “man to man”
They were not fighting Hamas. They were more like the Germans bombing London in the blitz.
Deuce,
DeleteWhile the population of Israel is something over eight million, 1.7 million of that number are not Jews.
How did so many Jewish enclaves exist for so long in so many Islamic majority countries?
DeleteMiddle Ages[edit]
During the Middle Ages, Jewish people under Muslim rule experienced tolerance and integration.[9]:55 Some historians refer to this time period as the "Golden Age" for the Jews as more opportunities became available to them.[9] But this approach is commonly referred to as a myth.[10] Examples of large scale persecution against Jews in the Islamic world in the Middle Ages include the Almohad's persecutions, in which entire Jewish communities in Al-Andalus and North Africa were destroyed, and cases such as the 1033 Fez massacre. In the context of day-to-day life, Abdel Fattah Ashour, a professor of medieval history at Cairo University, states that Jewish people found solace under Islamic rule during the Middle Ages.[9]:56 The Muslim rule at times didn't fully enforce the Pact of Umar and the traditional Dhimi status of Jews. Author Merlin Swartz referred to this time period as a new era for the Jews, stating that the attitude of tolerance led to Jewish integration into Arab-Islamic society.[9]:56
Jewish integration allowed Jews to make great advances in new fields, such as mathematics, astronomy, philosophy, chemistry and philology.[11] Jewish people also experienced political achievements under Islamic rule.[9]:55 Jews under Islam pursued many economic endeavors that helped integrate them into the Arab marketplace.[9]:58 During early Islam, Leon Poliakov writes, Jews enjoyed great privileges, and their communities prospered. There was no legislation or social barriers preventing them from conducting commercial activities. Commercial and craft guilds did not exist like the ones in Europe. Jewish people under Islamic Rule were no longer excluded from any specific profession and this helped lessen their negative stigma.[9]:58 Many Jews migrated to areas newly conquered by Muslims and established communities there. The vizier of Baghdad entrusted his capital with Jewish bankers. The Jews were put in charge of certain parts of maritime and slave trade. Siraf, the principal port of the caliphate in the 10th century, had a Jewish governor.[12]
Although Jewish life improved under Islamic rule, an interfaith utopia did not exist.[9]:58 Jewish people still experienced persecution. Under Islamic Rule, the Pact of Umar was introduced, which protected the Jews but also established them as inferior.[9]:59 Since the 11th century, there have been instances of pogroms against Jews.[13] Examples include the 1066 Granada massacre, the razing of the entire Jewish quarter in the Andalucian city of Granada.[14] In North Africa, there were cases of violence against Jews in the Middle Ages,[15] and in other Arab lands including Egypt,[16] Syria.[17] and Yemen[18] Jewish population was confined to segregated quarters, or mellahs, in Morocco beginning from the 15th century. In cities, a mellah was surrounded by a wall with a fortified gateway. In contrast, rural mellahs were separate villages inhabited solely by the Jews.[19] The Almohads, who had taken control of much of Islamic Iberia by 1172, were far more fundamentalist in outlook than the Almoravides, and they treated the dhimmis harshly. Jews and Christians were expelled from Morocco and Islamic Spain.[20] Faced with the choice of either death or conversion, some Jews, such as the family of Maimonides, fled south and east to the more tolerant Muslim lands, while others went northward to settle in the growing Christian kingdoms.[21][22] In 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in an offensive manner. The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco.[23][24]
Deuce ☂Sun Oct 05, 01:25:00 PM EDT
DeleteMore Rubbish:
Let’s remember as well, Deuce’s horror at the “cowardly” IDF striking Hamas with Airplanes and missiles and not fighting “man to man”
They were not fighting Hamas. They were more like the Germans bombing London in the blitz.
Starting on 7 September 1940, London was bombed by the Luftwaffe for 57 consecutive nights.[7] More than one million London houses were destroyed or damaged, and more than 40,000 civilians were killed, almost half of them in London.[4] Ports and industrial centres outside London were also heavily attacked. The major Atlantic sea port of Liverpool was also heavily bombed, causing nearly 4,000 deaths within the Merseyside area during the war.[8][9] The North Sea port of Hull, a convenient and easily found primary and secondary target for bombers unable to locate their primary targets, was subjected to 86 raids[10] within the city boundaries during the war, with a conservative estimate of 1200 civilians killed and 95% of its housing stock destroyed or damaged.
In a wet dream it would have been like the blitz
Did the carve-out of Israel help them or hurt them? Did the mass migration of Europeans to the carve-out and the displacement of indigenous Palestinians help them or hurt them?
DeleteCarve out? Jews were their already in 1948. As for MASS migration of Europeans? Mass? a full 1/2 of the "emigration" was from the arab world, over 850 thousand Jews thrown out. stripped of their wealth and driven into the new state of Israel, by the arabs.
As for the arabs of the area that left? More Jews were displaced than arabs. Back then the arabs of the area did not call themselves "palestinians", in fact there is no P in arabic.
Then they have a pool of ambassadors in that 1.7 million to lead in a program to come to an accommodation and a normalization with their neighbors. Israel is lacking an administration that has the wisdom to see it.
DeleteYou can re-write history all you wish, but it doesn't change the fact that more arabs live in Israel today, as full citizens than existed from the river to the sea in 1948 and the historic homes of the Jews, in the other 899/900th of the arab occupied middle east have been ethnically cleansed of all jews.
Deleteyou need to live in the present.
If the so called "palestinians" want a state? they will have to move to the west bank or gaza.
If they want to reconquer all or part of Israel? Then they will have more war.
The arabs have sucked at treatment of all minorities for centuries. Nothing new there, that is why the "peace movement" in Israel is dominated by Askenazi Jews (what is left of it) and the Sephardic, that KNOW the brutalness and criminality of the arabs are the dominate on the right wing.
Just listen to them and their stories and it makes Christian Europe sound like a nursery.
Why were they thrown out and stripped of their wealth if they had been in those ares for hundreds and thousands of years? What precipitated the change that Jews in Iraq, Iran, Egypt, etc had to flee from places where they lived for over a millennium?
DeleteMany fled for safety since the arabs had increased the pogroms from the early 1900's under the influence of Nazi germany
DeleteBy the end of WW2, the arabs and their embrace of the FINAL SOLUTION for the Jews of the arab world was clear.
Flee or DIE.
Jew hatred always existed in the Arab world, Hitler took it to a new level.
Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini (Arabic: محمد أمين الحسيني;[5] c. 1897;[6][7] – 4 July 1974) was a Palestinian Arab nationalist and Muslim leader in Mandatory Palestine.[8]
DeleteAl-Husseini was the scion of a family of Jerusalemite notables.[9] After receiving an education in Islamic, Ottoman and Catholic schools, he went on to serve in the Ottoman army in World War I. At war's end, he positioned himself in Damascus as a supporter of the Arab Kingdom of Syria. Following the fiasco of the Franco-Syrian War and the collapse of the Arab Hashemite rule in Damascus, his early position on pan-Arabism shifted to a form of local nationalism for Palestinian Arabs and he moved back to Jerusalem. From as early as 1920, in order to secure the independence of Palestine as an Arab state he actively opposed Zionism, and was implicated as a leader of a violent riot that broke out over the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. Al-Husseini was sentenced to ten years imprisonment, but was pardoned by the British.[10] Starting in 1921, al-Husseini was appointed Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, using the position to promote Islam, while rallying a non-confessional Arab nationalism against Zionism.[11][12]
Yes the right of Jews to have the same self determination as the arabs is what caused it all..
How dare the Jews deem themselves EQUAL to Moslems.
I guess the Jews could have stayed where they were and just die, that would have been nice too?
Deletehttp://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israel-expanding-its-efforts-against-Ebola-378074
ReplyDeleteIsrael steps up fight against Ebola in Africa
"Israel, whose researchers are doing pathfinding work in the fight against Ebola fever that is spreading in Western Africa and beyond, will send three mobile emergency clinics to the region...
An Israeli team has already been sent to Cameroon, where it was favorably received by the local authorities. The ministry also sent emergency equipment to the government of Sierra Leone, and in recent weeks, it shipped personal protection equipment to teams of the African Union..."
The newly formed/declared nation of Palestine also sent aid to Cameroon and Sierra Leone, but it was turned back as the effect of palestinian "aid" would only spread the ebola virus after detonation of bomb vests.
DeleteA spokesperson thanks the government of Abbas stating that "Thank you to the generous people of the great nation/state of Palestine, I understand your commitment to the people of the world fighting the lethal virus. However at this time the "virus" is Ebola and we are afraid that the translation provided the leadership of Palestine read the word virus as "jew"
The truly interesting point about empires and population trends is that the islamic/arab world is going though major changes.
ReplyDeleteIt is dying.
take away oil as revenue?
50 years from now the world will look completely different
In a rare step Israel said on October 2, 2014 it would let 500 Palestinians living in Gaza pray at a Jerusalem holy site during the Eid al-Adha feast over the weekend, and allow Palestinians from the West Bank to enter Israel more freely for the holiday.
ReplyDeleteThe IDF said that from Oct. 5 through 7 the days of the Muslim feast, 500 Palestinians from Gaza aged 60 and over would be permitted to pray at the al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, and 500 could visit close relatives in the West Bank. (true)
Likewise in rare step for peace with in the West Bank and Gaza Strip Jews were invited to visited historic and religious shrines at the same time... OK who am I kidding... LOL NOPE.
Although the role and aspirations of Turkey in the IS campaign have been discussed here, little attention has been paid to Egypt. That may change.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_erdogans-biting-language-towards-egypts-sisi-costly-for-turkey_360732.html
Erdoğan's biting language towards Egypt's Sisi costly for Turkey
Thanks to Quirk and you for the article.
ReplyDeleteDeuce ☂Sun Oct 05, 01:56:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteThen they have a pool of ambassadors in that 1.7 million to lead in a program to come to an accommodation and a normalization with their neighbors. Israel is lacking an administration that has the wisdom to see it.
No, you don't accept what arab -israelis within the diplomatic corp say...
Ali Yahya
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ali Yahya
Israel Ambassador to Finland
In office
1995–1999
Israel Ambassador to Greece
In office
2006–2014
Personal details
Born 1947
Kafr Qara, Mandatory Palestine
Died 2014
Kafr Qara, Israel
Nationality Israeli Arab
Profession Diplomat
Religion Muslim
Ali Yahya (Hebrew: עלי יחיא, Arabic: علی یحیی; born 1947) was an Israeli Arab diplomat. He became the first Israeli ambassador of Arab descent in 1995 when he was appointed ambassador to Finland, a post in which he served until 1999. In 2006 Yahya was appointed Israeli ambassador to Greece.
Contents [hide]
1 Biography
2 Diplomatic and media career
3 Awards
4 References
Biography[edit]
Yahya was born in 1947 and raised in Kafr Qara, Mandatory Palestine.[1] He completed his BA degree in history and Arabic literature at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1970. Yahya is survived by his wife and five children.[2]
Diplomatic and media career[edit]
Prior to becoming an ambassador, Yahya was the coordinator of the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s Special Projects Division for the Middle East and the Peace Process.
In 1972-1995, Yahya was director-general and taught Arabic language and Arab culture at the Akiva Language Institute (Ulpan Akiva) language seminary in Netanya.[3] He was a lecturer at the Tel Aviv University, the Israeli Senior Police College, and the Israel Foreign Ministry Cadet Training Program.[4]
In 1995, Yahya became a member of the Board of Directors of the Israel Broadcasting Authority (IBA), where he was in charge of Arabic and radio programs. That year he also joined the Lapid Movement for Learning the Lessons of the Holocaust.[5] Later in 1995 he was appointed the Israeli ambassador to Finland. He served until 1999.
In 1999, he served as Coordinator and Advisor for Special Projects (P.T.P.), at the Department for the Middle East Peace Process and was the direct responsible for the Aqaba Eilat peace talks.
In 2000, he became Chairman of the Board of The Arab Institute, at Central Galilee College; Chairman of the Board at The Abraham Fund dedicated to advancing coexistence, equality and cooperation between Israel's Jewish and Arab citizens; Member of the Board of Trustees at The Harry S. Truman Research Institute for the Advancement of Peace and Member of the Board of Trustees at The Max Stern Academic College of Emek Yezreel.[6]
In 2006, Yahya was appointed the Israeli ambassador to Greece.
On a visit to Singapore in 2006, Yahya called for direct ties between Israel and Indonesia. In an interview to Jakarta post he said,
I misunderstand why the relationship between the majorities of Muslims in Asia is hostile to Israel. If it is because of Israel and Palestine, then (how can it be reconciled that) we have peace with Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, but not with eastern Asia?
We protect the holy places in Israel, respect the Arabic language, and bring imams and rabbis together to have discussions. I am posing a question if the Muslim countries in Asia can open the gate to their country for us, so that we can open up relations with them.
There are so many opportunities in Israel and by stressing the need for cooperation we would like to get these countries to also have a share of these opportunities. But to do that, we need to have the opportunity to talk directly to these countries, which I hope, will come up soon.[7]
Yahya was the first Israeli–Arab to light the ceremonial torch at the Israeli Independence Day celebration, and was the delegate of the Israeli – Arab Community at the Nobel Prize Ceremony in 1995.[2]
The failed guitarist can write a million papers, and talk for a thousand years, and he will never convince me that building bombs, and blowing up people is "a good thing."
ReplyDeleteIn the country we call it "lost in the weeds."
And, most especially if you're the one getting "blowed up."
Delete:)
ReplyDeleteAUSTRALIA has entered the war against Islamic State, launching its first air strikes in Iraq with two RAAF F/A-18F Super Hornet fighter jets taking off moments apart at 2.02pm on Sunday afternoon, or just after 9pm Eastern Standard Time last night.
Australian authorities in the forward operating base in the United Arab Emirates would not reveal what targets the two jets were seeking to destroy, nor would disclose what air-to-surface weapons they were carrying.
The two dual cockpit jets, carrying pilots and air combat officers, returned safely to base after more than seven hours in the air.
Heraldsun
DeleteBack on topic:
ReplyDeleteRufus IISun Oct 05, 03:04:00 PM EDT
The failed guitarist can write a million papers, and talk for a thousand years, and he will never convince me that building bombs, and blowing up people is "a good thing."
In the country we call it “lost in the weeds."
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Still, the author makes a compelling case for explaining historical process and progress.
We all agree that war is wrong until the majority of us agree it isn’t. The idea that it saves future lives by the use of statistics showing a declining percentage of us directly involved and suffering the consequences is seductive but there is a serious clinker.
Larger global organizations and hyper technology eliminates the advantage of redundancy. We see how a single hacking unit can invade a single bank and affect tens of millions of account holders. That was impossible a generation ago and unthinkable two generations ago. As a species, we go back over 100,000 generations.
The consolidation that gives us safety in numbers and statistics could evaporate in a global post-nuclear second. Is that at most two generations from now? Probably, and there is not a damn thing that we can do about it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/10/18/genocide-first-nations-aboriginals-canada-un_n_4123112.html
ReplyDeleteUN Urged To Declare Canada's Treatment Of Aboriginals 'Genocide'
While posting I asked myself, "Will any entertainer ever name a child "Kumquat"?
I may have read that the "Aboriginals" are going to form political wing called "Harmus".
DeleteThe argument seems to be that if A kills B, C will have a better life.
ReplyDeleteIn general, I doubt it.
The "War is Good" argument tends to end up in a "Socialism is Good" argument.
I don't really care if you understand this, or not. I'm too tired to take it step by step.
Take a nap. You will need to be rested for the next post.
ReplyDeleteDeuce ☂Sun Oct 05, 01:56:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteThen they have a pool of ambassadors in that 1.7 million to lead in a program to come to an accommodation and a normalization with their neighbors. Israel is lacking an administration that has the wisdom to see it.
That is quite a leap. You assume that the 1.7 million within Israel want to associate with those outside. That does not seem to be the case. It should also be recalled that the 1.7 million is made up of more than Arabs.
I believe that there are more than a few within that group that would do more for Israeli public relations than second degree Russians.
ReplyDeleteGet real.
DeleteYou are typical of the sort of person with whom Israel must negotiate.
DeleteThere are Arab-Israelis in the Knesset. I do not recall a case of any of them banging on Netanyahu's door demanding to negotiate with either Hamas or Fatah, although some of them have gone outside the area to speak with Fatah, it is said. Some Arab-Israelis may complain but know better than to get involved with their "brothers" who have repeatedly demonstrated reflexive trigger-pull. Moreover, why would they give up what they now have? Within Israel, they are at the top of their food-chain.