The euro zone
The world’s biggest economic problem
Deflation in the euro zone is all too close and extremely dangerous
Now that German growth has stumbled, the euro area is on the verge of tipping into its third recession in six years. Its leaders have squandered two years of respite, granted by the pledge of Mario Draghi, the European Central Bank’s president, to do “whatever it takes” to save the single currency. The French and the Italians have dodged structural reforms, while the Germans have insisted on too much austerity. Prices are falling in eight European countries. The zone’s overall inflation rate has slipped to 0.3% and may well go into outright decline next year. A region that makes up almost a fifth of world output is marching towards stagnation and deflation.
Optimists, both inside and outside Europe, often cite the example of Japan. It fell into deflation in the late-1990s, with unpleasant but not apocalyptic consequences for both itself and the world economy. But the euro zone poses far greater risks. Unlike Japan, the euro zone is not an isolated case: from China to America inflation is worryingly low, and slipping. And, unlike Japan, which has a homogenous, stoic society, the euro area cannot hang together through years of economic sclerosis and falling prices. As debt burdens soar from Italy to Greece, investors will take fright, populist politicians will gain ground, and—sooner rather than later—the euro will collapse.
This parrot has ceased to be
Although many Europeans, especially the Germans, have been brought up to fear inflation, deflation can be still more savage (see article). If people and firms expect prices to fall, they stop spending, and as demand sinks, loan defaults rise. That was what happened in the Great Depression, with especially dire consequences in Germany in the early 1930s.
So it is worrying that, of the 46 countries whose central banks target inflation, 30 are below their target. Some price falls are welcome. Tumbling oil prices, in particular, have given consumers’ incomes a boost (see article). But slowing prices and stagnant wages owe more to weak demand in the economy and roughly 45m workers are jobless in the rich OECD countries. Investors are starting to expect lower inflation even in economies, such as America’s, that are growing at reasonable rates. Worse, short-term interest rates are close to zero in many economies, so central banks cannot cut them to boost spending. The only ammunition comes from quantitative easing and other forms of printing money.
The global lowflation threat is a good reason for most central banks to keep monetary policy loose. It is also, in the longer term, a prompt to look at revising inflation targets a shade upwards. But the immediate problem is the euro area.
Continental Europe’s economy has plenty of big underlying weaknesses, from poor demography to heavy debt and sclerotic labour markets. But it has also made enormous policy mistakes. France, Italy and Germany have all eschewed growth-enhancing structural reforms. The euro zone is particularly vulnerable to deflation because of Germany’s insistence on too much fiscal austerity and the ECB’s timidity. Even now, with economies contracting, Germany is still obsessed with deficit reduction for all governments, while its opposition to monetary easing has meant that the ECB, to the obvious despair of Mr Draghi, has done far less than other big central banks in terms of quantitative easing (notwithstanding this week’s move to start buying “covered bonds”).
If there was ever logic to this incrementalism, it has run out. As budgets shrink and the ECB struggles to convince people that it can stop prices slipping, a descent into deflation seems all too probable. Signs of stress are beginning to appear in both the markets and politics. Bond yields in Greece have risen sharply, as support for the left-wing Syriza party has surged (see article). France and Germany are trading rhetorical blows over a new budget proposal coming out of Paris.
Joining the bleedin’ choir invisible
If Europe is to stop its economy getting worse, it will have to stop its self-destructive behaviour. The ECB needs to start buying sovereign bonds. Germany’s chancellor, Angela Merkel, should allow France and Italy to slow the pace of their fiscal cuts; in return, those countries should accelerate structural reforms. Germany, which can borrow money at negative real interest rates, could spend more building infrastructure at home.
That would help, but not be enough. It is a bit like the early years of the euro debacle, before Mr Draghi’s whatever-it-takes pledge, when half-solutions only fed the crisis. Something radical is needed. The hitch is that European law bans many textbook solutions, such as ECB purchases of newly issued government bonds. The best legal option is to couple a dramatic increase in infrastructure spending with bond-buying by the ECB. Thus the European Investment Bank could launch a big (say €300 billion, or $383 billion) expansion in investments such as faster cross-border rail links or more integrated electricity grids—and raise the money by issuing bonds, which the ECB could buy in the secondary market. Another possibility would be to redefine the EU’s deficit rules to exclude investment spending, which would allow governments to run bigger deficits, again with the ECB providing a backstop.
Behind all this sits a problem of political will (see article). Mrs Merkel and the Germans seem prepared to take action only when the single currency is on the verge of catastrophe. Throughout Europe people are hurting—in Italy and Spain youth unemployment is above 40%. Voters vented their fury with the established order in the EU’s parliamentary elections earlier this summer, and got very little change. Another descent into the abyss will test their patience. And once deflation has an economy in its jaws, it is very hard to shake off. Europe’s leaders are running out of time.
The info-babe is pretty cute.
ReplyDeleteDraghi wants to do Bernanke-style QE, but Merkel won't have it, and it's not so much fear of inflation but that it amounts to a wealth transfer from north to south and creates a moral hazard. The socialists have finally run out of other people's money, and Merkel won't help them cover up that fact for another year or two.
ReplyDeleteAMERICAN FALLS, Idaho – A portion of a Columbian mammoth skull and tusks have been uncovered in southeastern Idaho, and experts say a rare entire skeleton might be buried there.
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ReplyDeleteTHE world economy is not in good shape.
Ya think?
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It's a demand problem. Happens every time the financial genii screw the pooch, and crash the world economy.
ReplyDeleteThe answer is Employment. When the sickened gamblers won't do it, the government has to.
We, as well as the Europeans, should be building out infrastructure for the 21st Century.
In the States we should be building out light rail for the cities, and Renewable Energy Infrastructure; a good start would be 3,000 +/- Cellulosic Ethanol Refineries (in the same way FDR built out the TVA, and assorted Dams across the West.)
An increase in the Minimum Wage is a no-brainer, here, and a little work on our China trade policy wouldn't hurt.
DeleteEurope needs to raise taxes on the rich, and, if they can't do away with it, altogether, at least cut the VAT in half (or more.)
DeleteAnd, of course, ditch the Euro.
What Rufus doesn't tell you is that he wants the federal maximum wage to be $10 an hour too. Yanqui no, Cooba si!
DeleteI'll ask you the same question I asked Quirk; Why are there so many more Rich people in the Blue States?
DeleteWhy are the Richest Zip Codes the Most Liberal?
DeleteThe answer of course is simple; they are home to the smartest people. And, smart people understand how economies are maximized.
DeleteThis Five Minute Praise of the 1% Brought To You By Your Local Limousine Liberal.
DeleteLook at Liberal States such as Washington, and Massachusetts.
DeleteThey not only pay for their own Excellent School Systems, they send money to shitholes like Mississippi, and Alabama to help pay for their crappy schools.
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DeleteI agree, at least, in the short term (though as you might guess my priorities on the needed infrastructure would likely be a little different than yours).
The Fed in the US has shot its wad and it sounds like the same solution in the EU isn't a possibility. QE was effective initially in solving the liquidity problem but for some time now it has done little good and may be fueling more asset bubbles and the same problems that got us into the jam we are in. It's supply side approach to solving the employment problem rests on fairy dust. The only hope is on the fiscal side.
That being said, I see it only as a relatively short term solution. Long term, I don't see anything out there, short of a major paradigm shift or a revolution, that will help with either the demand or the supply side of the equation. Governments and businesses have to come to the realization that they can't survive if they have no customers, if the economic divide continues to grow, if wages for the average worker keep falling.
Dystopia and Anarco-Capitalism here we come.
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DeleteThe answer of course is simple; they are home to the smartest people. And, smart people understand how economies are maximized.
Evidently, that is why you live in Mississippi.
Lord, you have done gone and drunk up all the Kool-Aid again.
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I'm probably more of a John Deere Librul, than I am of the "limousine" variety.
DeleteAnd, unlike the Joni Ernsts of the world, my job wasn't to "cut, cut, snip, snip, apply the salve; my job was to grab the cantankerous, squealing, fighting, 100 + lb. son of a bitch by the hind legs, and stretch it up so the boss could do the snip, snip deal.
You ought to wake up some morning after having done That all day long.
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DeleteI started out as an hourly worker for an auto company and despite all the urban legends there are some shit awful jobs in those plants.
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I'm glad that recording of Deutschland, Deutschland über alles was turned down for this post, it was deafening.
ReplyDeleteWho cares?
ReplyDeleteIf one is worried about deflation one has nothing of which to worry about anyway.
Or inflation.
Buy some land.
Live on it.
Fuck the economy, who cares?
Build soil.
Brick house.
Good wife.
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DeleteShania Twain?
Good lord, Bob, time to switch from the booze to Geritol .
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Got 90s?
DeleteLet the 'urban mssses', the shits in Philly try to figure it out......
ReplyDeleteLet them blog and curse.....
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DeleteGee, Bobby, you sound a little down.
Come on, give us a little smile.
Come on, now, turn that frown upside down.
You can do it.
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DeleteI said turn it upside down. You turned it sideways.
Grrrrrrr.
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ReplyDeleteEverybody was being nice until you showed up. And, already, you're stirring shit.
DeleteI didn't say it while you were gone, but I'll say it now; you should be given a week's time out.
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DeleteYea, Bob, by the time I got back all your comments had been deleted by the blog administrator.
You must have said something awful. I mean if the rat was allowed to go on with his disgusting little 'clit-clipping' rampage two streams back covering the entire stream and do so with no reproof you must have really gone over the line (whatever that might be these days).
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He demanded the blog be shut down.
DeleteSo he was, shut down.
He's back....
Well see if he has learned his lesson.
If you had not noticed, Legionnaire Q, clit clipping has been one of Robert's pet peeves, for years now.
That he would do a 180 degree turn and advocate sending US soldiers to their deaths, to defend a culture where that practice is pervasive, done out of ignorance, I do believe.
It was important that Robert be brought up to speed on the realities of Kurdish culture.
Before he made an even greater fool out of himself with his incessant demands that US soldiers invade Iraq.
I just said the obvious, Quirk.
DeleteIt wasn't acceptable.
Exactly, it was not acceptable ...
DeleteLearn to be polite, Robert. I realize it may late in your life to learn anything ...
Especially when you refuse to acknowledge history as a teacher.
When you are proud that you will not change your mind on any subject ...
Personal growth is slow, at best, under those circumstances.
But keep at it ...
What would you like to call your blog?
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DeletePlease, rat, spare me. Your rationalizations are annoying.
Once, twice at the most, would have been sufficient but you went on for an entire blog stream, clit-clipper, clit-clipper, clit-clipper.
Time for a little self-reflection, rat. Face it, you have never quite made it out of the anal stage. Just a little five year old playing with his poo. Bob was just an excuse for you to indulge yourself.
In my opinion, it was just another of the juvenile displays you put up here on a daily basis.
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Oh, no, Legionnaire Q, it took al that to 'break through' Robert's mental barriers.
DeleteHe was not convinced by the first linked reference, it took a multitude of posts to gain a reaction.
When he finally focused upon the issue, and another referenced, linked source was provide, the Israeli contingent told him the data sets were lies. That the multiple sources were not accurate, all lies they clamored time and again.
So it was vital that he be convinced of the true situation in Iraqi Kurdistan. It was required to beat the Israelis propaganda, propaganda which had originally led Robert to believe that the Kurds were not 'real' Muslims.
Now it is true that in Turkey the incidence of FGM amongst the Kurds is much lower, but that is because of the history of secularization of the country, and the liberal tendencies of the PKK, So liberal they were labeled as Communists, and declared a Terrorist Organization, like Hamas.
But to have the US invade Turkey ... to liberate liberal, Communist Kurds, there ... why that would just be a "Bridge to Far".
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DeleteRat, I sit here reading these last two posts, here about 2:00 in the morning, and I have that same feeling I had when I read Poe's The Tell-Tale Heart or in watching one of those old Hammer Productions from the 60's where in the last scene the nut is there in prison explaining why it made sense to, no why he had to, commit the crime.
TRUE! --nervous --very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad?
Spooky stuff.
230,000 hits you say? I suspect the biggest influx came right after you were profiled in the lead article in the 2013 Christmas issue of Abnormal Psychology Journal. You've got enough crazy notions floating around in your head to keep the 2015 freshman class of the Max Plank Institute of Brain Sciences supplied with research topics for the term of their matriculation.
Fruit loops.
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DeleteAnd I mean that in the best possible way.
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DeleteJack Hawkins
Works at doin' the best he can
Attended Florida State University
Lives in Greenback Valley, situated in the Sierra Ancha Mountains of Arizona.
12 followers | 249,007 views
https://plus.google.com/+JackHawkinswrites/about
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DeleteIt's that old problem, some people just can't turn away from seeing a train wreck.
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French woman doesn't give a hoot. Walks thru Muslim street-prayers; her handbag bumping heads:
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DeleteShe's got balls.
Well...you know what I mean.
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The winning of the "Cold War" unleashed massive amounts of labor onto the global market place.
ReplyDeleteThe US was having a hard enough time integrating the Mexican labor force into the 'First World', but it was manageable.
With the addition of the Eastern Europeans, the Chinese, Indians, Malaysians, etc ... there just is not enough 'demand' to maintain the wages of the economic engine of the world, the US consumer.
Then factor in the excess supply capacity that now exists overseas, coupled with the modernization of US manufacturing, building more with less labor ... There is a structural challenge that old school 'market capitalism' cannot adequately address.
And just wait until the Robots show up...
DeleteLet the women pay for their own abortions.
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Your body
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Your purse
Let them all take care of themselves for once.
Maybe they will grow up.
We can hope.
My purse upside your head....
Deleteah, jeez
DeleteBob you know I'm a joker right?
DeleteBy the way, I have ZERO respect for Deuce any longer......
ReplyDeleteBut I actually love Miss T, Quirk, Rufus, WiO, allen, Sam, Doug and others and others now long gone.....
I just don't show it very well, being an Idaho outback well read in literature.....and testy
Don't include me in there, bob; I don't like you.
DeleteYou are a decent old fart, Rufus, I can't help but like you.
DeleteSorry.
Literature, Bob? Gravity's Rainbow? A Clockwork Orange? Or Mobile Homes by Winnie Bago?
ReplyDeleteI ain't never read that by Winnie Bago.
DeleteSorry.
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What's it about anyways, tripping?
DeleteVery best of a truly great video:
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DeleteShania Twain, the Justin Beiber of country music.
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the point is we are not going to behead her for singing though Beiber might be another matter.
DeleteShe sings better than you.
DeleteAnd I would use force to prevent you from being beheaded for singing even though you would richly deserve it.
DeleteHealthcare, infrastructure and anything that can generate a fee, a tax, a profit and a job can all be financed by bypassing the banks by the issuing of a project direct currency. Use Detroit as an example:
ReplyDeleteAssume a political and social commitment to investing $25 billion in Detroit over a ten year period using no taxes and no debt. The criteria is that priority will be given to projects that the finished product ends up in Detroit, water, energy , hospitals, schools, transportation, buildings etc.
The economic criteria is that the project be able to generate a future revenue stream equal to 50% the depreciation of the asset. I assume that at the end of the economic life cycle, there would be a future inflated residual value of 50%. For example an expressway or utility. A billion dollar project, designed for a forty year life cycle would have to generate revenue of 1 million per month. That is revenue, not profit. The theory is that all costs eventually end up as profit or wages to someone. There is a multiplier affect in that increased economic activity and the velocity of exchange result in a growing economy.
The project is funded by an issued currency so that as it is constructed, vendors and labor are paid with currency, which is indistinguishable except by a digital bar code and issued as the project progresses. At the completion of a billion dollar project, one billion dollars of economic activity will have been paid for by the recent job specific currency issue. You have the normal multiplier affect as exchange ends up as wages, profit or savings. 50% of the issued project specific currency is withdrawn from circulation over a 40 year period.
The actual cost to the taxpayers is zero and there is no intercession required by financial institutions. $10 billion is invested in a blighted American city as seed money for additional economic activity. Compare that to taxing US citizens or borrowing from Wall Street to transfer $35 billion to Israel over a similar period. Cui bono?
Only a Republican could ever get away with such a scheme (Nixon to China effect.)
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ReplyDeleteNASDAQ: SODA - Oct 27 6:53 PM ET
21.98 - down 2.47 (10.10%)
The surge went bust.
Is The Pepsico And SodaStream Partnership A Game Changer For SodaStream?
Quick question and an even quicker answer: Is the newly announced venture between SodaStream (NASDAQ:SODA) and Pepsico (NYSE:PEP) a game changer for SodaStream? Absolutely not!
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Let's take a look at the SEC filing created through sodastream.com:
Further to press reports that were published today, SodaStream International Ltd. (the "Company") confirms that as the leader of the at-home, make-your-own beverages, category it has entered into an agreement with PepsiCo, Inc. ("PepsiCo") specifically focused on a small-scale, limited time test to make certain of PepsiCo's brands available for use on the Company's system. The limited test is scheduled for later this year. Consistent with the Company's practice to date, the Company is also exploring multiple relationships with other leading beverage brands.
Exceptionally, the Company would like to stress that this is a limited test and that there are currently no discussions between the Company and PepsiCo concerning any other form of broader business collaboration. Following this report and consistent with past practice, the Company undertakes no obligation to provide any updates and will not comment on rumors or speculation."
It becomes apparent after reading the opening statement, SodaStream hadn't planned on issuing a formal press release regarding this test program, but since some industry insiders discovered this venture, and the venture is true, the company decided to declare it so in a formal SEC filing. This is in sharp contrast to previous rumors surrounding the company and the notion it was in talks to be acquired. Hopefully, this finally solidifies fact from fiction for many. Simply put, fiction requires no statement from the company.
... syrups or flavors don't drive this category presently and globally. That's right, people who tend to purchase home carbonation systems tend to do so for the sole purpose of making seltzer water. That being said, a quick extrapolation from SodaStream's revenue breakdown further evidences this point of fact as the company only garners about 25% of its revenues from syrup/flavor sales. In the Americas, Capital Ladder Advisory Group, for who I am employed, suggests flavor sales are less than 25% of SodaStream's Americas sales. The bulk of SodaStream's revenues come from the company's machine units and CO2 sales.
DeleteSo, even without the BDS pressure the niche is a poor performer, add in BDS and that is the 'death knell' you're hearing.
Now that German growth has stumbled, the euro area is on the verge of tipping into its third recession in six years. Its leaders have squandered two years of respite, granted by the pledge of Mario Draghi, the European Central Bank’s president, to do “whatever it takes” to save the single currency. The French and the Italians have dodged structural reforms, while the Germans have insisted on too much austerity. Prices are falling in eight European countries. The zone’s overall inflation rate has slipped to 0.3% and may well go into outright decline next year. A region that makes up almost a fifth of world output is marching towards stagnation and deflation.
DeleteThe good news?
five year net profits:
9.92M 12.87M 29.47M 43.86M 42.03M
Yep sounds like a company dying...
Went from 9 mil in profit 5 years ago to 40 MILLION today...
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/soda/financials
DeleteInvestors understand that annual sales and profit mean something.
JackShit says: So, even without the BDS pressure the niche is a poor performer, add in BDS and that is the 'death knell' you're hearing.
I wish I owned a company that made 40 MILLION in net profit a year.
JackShit does your "company" make that? You stated you cannot afford a paltry 5k a month to play polo...
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It's not the $5,000 month, "O"rdure,
DeleteIt is a question of whether or not playing amateur polo is worth that much to me.
It's not. If I can get that down to about $2,500, I'll probably do it.
Pissin' money way, for fun, does have its limits.
If, as you've stated, you know my 'real' name, address etc., then you know what my 'companies' do.
If you don't really know, then there is no reason to tell you..
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It's not just one month, if it was, then I'd go play at Will Rogers. It is a six month season, so it's closer to $35,000 to 'play'.
DeleteThat's a sizable sum, even for me, to just piss away.
Nicely avoiding the my post...
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"I wish I owned a company that made 40 MILLION in net profit a year.
JackShit does your "company" make that? You stated you cannot afford a paltry 5k a month to play polo... "
No your "company? doesn't make JACKSHIT.
It might be a lot to Rufus....
But not any real business folks.
Jack HawkinsTue Oct 28, 10:10:00 AM EDT
DeleteIt's not just one month, if it was, then I'd go play at Will Rogers. It is a six month season, so it's closer to $35,000 to 'play'.
That's a sizable sum, even for me, to just piss away.
And yet you call SodaSteam all sorts of invectives..
A company that went from 9 million to 40 million a year in NET profit in 5 years and you sing praises of it's decline/death.
Yep a company created out of nothing, revolutionizing and innovating and you a failed horse circle newspaper publisher...
Could not get enough advertisers for your rag?
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Loser.
Narco Blogger Killings
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The irony in all your bluster Jack is that you, just like Bob, are all for having the USA use its military might and reputation to support the "clit clippers".
ReplyDeletesad, but true.
Fucking hypocrite !
Deletenote no smiley face.
It is not the application of military force, Ash, it is the loss of US lives that I object to.
DeleteEspecially when the 'natives' can fight for themselves.
Better for the US to support clit clippers than to allow Head Choppers to dominate the local political scene, through the application of military force. If the locals are willing to fight the Head Chppers we can, should, support them in their efforts, in the most minimal way possible that is possible to achieve success.
The US has 'declared war' on the organization that attacked the US on 11SEP2001 and the President has determined that the Daesh are connected to that organization. As per the AUMF of 14SEP2001.
DeleteWhen the US is no longer at war with those folks, when the Congress and President decide it is over, over there, then I certainly would love to see the US military come home and demobilize. Much as is being done in Afghanistan, as we discuss it.
If the Daesh were not a part of al-Qeada, then the US would not now be involved, militarily, in Iraq and Syria.
DeleteBut, since the President has made the determination that the Daesh is affiliated with al-Qeada, then the US is honor bound to take the fight to them, before they bring it to US, in a major way.
Since there is no public outcry against the AUMF of 14EP2001, no one of political weight or importance disputing the President's determination ... He is probably correct in his determination. Following the evolution of the Daesh, it does seem as if he is correct.
The US will not accept al-Qeada operatives taking power in Syria.
Whether or not you believe that is 'good' policy for US, or not.
editor's note: the 'or not' is redundant.
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We're in better shape than Europe because Obama has already managed a little bit of wealth redistribution, ala Obamacare.
ReplyDeleteObamacare is, essentially, a tax on High Income Earners with the proceeds distributed down the chain.
We, also, have much lower taxes on Energy, esp. gasoline, and don't rely as heavily on sales taxes (VAT.)
Now, if we could just get a little relief in the Minimum Wage. We have Never gone through a recession even anywhere near as severe as this one without raising the minimum compensation, and it's absolutely astonishing that we're going to try to do it this time.
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DeleteI am for some reasonable increase in the minimum wage as it likely will not hurt those paying it too much while helping out those getting it quite a bit.
That said, I don't see it helping the economy that much. Estimates I have seen show anywhere from 1.1 to 2.0 percent of workers make the minimum wage. I just don't see the multiplier effect being that significant.
Currently, about 11% of total jobs out there are union jobs, 7% of the private sector. Back in the 80's. the number was over 20%. Back then a union wage increase had a significant impact on driving all wages up. I don't see the same for the minimum wage.
Of course, if the percentage minimum wage workers keeps growing the equation changes, but that definitely is not something we want to see.
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The Minimum Wage punches well above its weight. It affects wages all the way up the scale.
DeleteThen there are companies like Walmart that pay a lot (most?) of its workers a miniscule amount, a dime or such, above the minimum wage. They do this so they can say, "none of our workers make minimum wage.) They don't mention that a Million of their workers make only a dime over the minimum wage.
Also, don't lose sight of the fact that the places with the highest minimum wage tend to have the lowest unemployment rates.
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DeleteSorry, Rufus, we obviously have a difference of opinion that is unlikely to be resolved.
IMO, the minimum wage is important in the micro, to the people who earn it, but it makes little difference to the macro economy in toto.
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Now, let me show you some Good deflation:
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Some people are getting down to around Five or Six Cents / Mile at these prices.
DeleteThat's a significant pay increase for some of them.
Atlanta
Delete$2.92 - $2.96/ gal. past few days
Kroger knocks off a few cents per gal. to card holders.
If the usual pattern is at work, gasoline in mid-Georgia is probably about $2.83/gal.
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DeleteThat's the range here in my area. You can knock off $.10 if you pay cash. Knock off $.15 to $.20 if you buy from Sam' Club, Costco, or some of the large grocery stores, Kroger, etc.
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http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Israels-air-force-the-best-in-the-world-study-finds-380030
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DeleteIsrael prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies
Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.
“We always wanted Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran.”
Even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated with al-Qaeda.
“We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” Oren said in the interview.
http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328
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DeleteA typical ratism, if you don't like the story, change the subject.
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DeleteIt's an amazing sight to watch Jack Hawkins, of publishing fame, reduced to cut and paste, out of context garbage.
DeleteI guess that's why the "rag" failed. Oh my had, how many subscribers do you have now? 400?
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Delete"Liar" was not meant for you.
The J Post was not the source of the story, Rat. Were your reading comprehension even at the level of a child, you would know that the J Post only reported on a report.
Delete... liar ...
I did not even at the story, just the link address.
DeleteThe link source is the story, as far as I am concerned.
I did not even look at the story, just the link address
DeleteThe nonclickable web address is not meant to be read, but is merely a reference for the post.
If you want to have folks read it, HTML code it, so that it is clickable.
What I am discussing is what is posted, at the Elephant Bar.
If you think the content of the JPost is worth sharing, then share it.
Otherwise we we discuss what is posted, in this case it was the JPost.
Otherwise we discuss what is posted, in this case it was the JPost.
Deleteeditor note: the second 'we' was redundant.
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Jack HawkinsTue Oct 28, 11:05:00 AM EDT
DeleteI did not even at the story, just the link address.
:-) You apparently do not read what you write, either.
No American police force has been trained by Mossad.
liar
Never wrote that a US police force had been trained by the Mossad, desk co-ordinator.
DeleteYou are putting up a 'straw man', probably because you are a 'Scarecrow', but be that as it may ...
If you wish to bring the alleged statement forward, I will certainly diagram it, for you edification.
we have bowed to your repeated requests for all sorts of things and in the end?
DeleteYour narcissistic personality cannot allow you to admit your defeat.
As Ms T noted above ...
ReplyDeleteWill the machines take over? Why Elon Musk thinks so. (+video)
Elon Muk"We are summoning the Demon with Artificial Intelligence"
Musk took to Twitter in August to encourage others to read the book, adding, "We need to be super careful with AI. Potentially more dangerous than nukes."
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Roger McNamee, Elevation Partners co-founder, was quick to disagree.
"In a world where we have the NSA looking at everything that we do, where the government is spending hundreds of billions of dollars on fighter planes that can't fly, and where we're starting wars in countries we can't possibly win in, it seems to me that worrying about AI is irrelevant," he told CNBC.
Besides, he said, "There's a good chance we will have polluted the earth beyond repair long before they could get any of this AI stuff to work."
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2014/1027/Will-the-machines-take-over-Why-Elon-Musk-thinks-so.-video
Elon Musk: "We are summoning the Demon with Artificial Intelligence"
DeleteAddressing students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Musk said: “I think we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. If I were to guess like what our biggest existential threat is, it’s probably that.
Delete“With artificial intelligence we are summoning the demon. In all those stories where there’s the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, it’s like yeah he’s sure he can control the demon. Didn’t work out.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/tesla-boss-elon-musk-warns-artificial-intelligence-development-is-summoning-the-demon-9819760.html
Musk vs. Whoever?
DeleteYou set the odds, I'll make the bet
(oh, and you can't win.)
:)
The only interesting aspect of this discussion is: when does this statement "There are no jobs that a Computer/Robot can't do" become operative?
DeleteYour children's lifetime? Your grandchildren's?
Probably not much later than your Great Grandchildren's.
When everyone 'can' be replaced, what's to be done with the people?
DeleteDo they become obsolete, in the scheme of things?
Considering that we'll be running out of phosphate rock about that time?
DeleteIt might not be a good time to be "expendable."
But, if you "make the cut," life will be good. :)
DeleteJack has companies he tells us...
ReplyDeleteWell lets look at them shall we:
JackRat's Horse and Whore Barn.
another?
JHawkins Dope and Guns Sales, the motto there is: "You can smoke 'em and SMOKE 'em"
And of course his prized "magazine", more like an old time 12 page shopper guide for Cowboys and Stall mucking services....
... nothing on polo, the sport of kings? ...
DeleteFunny stuff ...
DeletePost that link, will you please.
Oh, and HTML code it, to make it clickable ...
DeleteCroc Shit used to be in the publishing business.
DeleteAnybody remember that?
Ruf, who I like, got a little out of it one day and claimed to have saved 'uncounted' lives by selling insurance.
DeleteQuart was a supersalesman.
I farmed a lot and am retired now.
I would rather be retired than farming, I can tell you that.
Sam works.
Deuce has told the truth about his past.
So as well with WiO and allen.
Our expat to Canada has never done anything as far as I can see.
My Niece has worked her ass off.
DeleteShe's at the Max Planck Institute of Brain Research, Dresden, Germany, helping people.
She is the best of us all.
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DeleteJohn Tory ends Rob Fudd's reign over Toronto
Miss T has served in our Navy.
ReplyDeleteShe is a nice Lady, a little whacky once in a while.
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DeleteShania Twain is lovely.
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DeleteTake your meds, bob. If you're out, go get some more.
DeleteYou're starting a fight, now, where no fight exists.
DeleteAsh.
DeleteAsh is his name.
Ash is the feller from Canada.
Never done anything as far as I can remember.
Debilitated by a university degree.
No information flow in the brain.
His claim to fame is that he is not Croc Shit.
DeleteIt's hard to be polite, Ruf, with Croc Shit around.
ReplyDeleteIt's not a matter of being polite. It's a matter of sanity. The ability to distinguish between reality, and stories created in your own mind.
DeleteJust don’t start.
ReplyDeleteI'm also ticked off at Quartz for putting Shania Twain down.
ReplyDeleteHell, she is absolutely beautiful.............
But not up to Detroit standards, I guess......
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+country+music+shania+twain&form=VIRE1&first=1#view=detail&mid=97CEF174F99AFFE9AE2D97CEF174F99AFFE9AE2D
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ReplyDeleteWithout the photo-shopping and complimentary lighting in the videos she is a dog.
When you see her in person on some of these shows, she has a pinched face and looks like a rat.
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And you are good lookin'?
DeleteShe SINGS
You FART
I shall leave the issue up to Miss T.
ReplyDeleteAnd Rufus.
They are better Judges of pop culture than I.
But for myself, I must tell you I think this woman
ROCKS
Well, Quantitative Easing is over, and, sure enough, interest rates have exploded . . . . . . all the way up to 2.26% on the 10 yr. ?
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ReplyDeletePhotographer: Kevork Djansezian/Bloomberg
Shopping on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills.
Consumer confidence advanced in October as Americans enjoyed further price drops at the gas pump and the job market continued to improve.
The Conference Board’s index climbed to 94.5 this month, the highest since October 2007, from a September reading of 89 that was stronger than initially estimated, the New York-based private research group said today. The gauge exceeded the most optimistic projection in a Bloomberg survey of economists.
More job security, gasoline prices at an almost four-year low, and a strengthening labor market are setting . . . . .
broke, but CONFIDENT!!
Jack HawkinsTue Oct 28, 11:50:00 AM EDT
ReplyDeleteNever wrote that a US police force had been trained by the Mossad, desk co-ordinator.
Actually, you did. Ah, let me rephrase: You attempted too in some sort of third-world, knock-off of English.
Jack HawkinsWed Oct 22, 10:04:00 PM EDT
The Zionists have raveled the world, killing those the deem enemies.
Even waiters in Europe that 'looked' like they were someone they were not.
The 'Mossad' has killed scores across Central America, helping to maintain the most rancid regimes in Guatemala, Panama, El Salvador and Honduras. Regimes that even the US refused to support, the Israeli jumped right in, teaching the techniques of population subjugation they had refined in Palestine.Techniques now being aught to US police orces across the land, fuckin' terrible things that are happening while we watch it occur.
Jack HawkinsThu Oct 23, 02:09:00 AM EDT
DeleteUS police get antiterror training in Israel
Jack HawkinsThu Oct 23, 02:12:00 AM EDT
From 2011 ...
Report: Israeli model underlies militarization of U.S. police
Jack HawkinsThu Oct 23, 02:13:00 AM EDT
Many, many more Right Here
Jack HawkinsThu Oct 23, 02:15:00 AM EDT
us police training israel
About 52,200,000 results (0.33 seconds)
... etc. ...
Excuse me.
Deleteliar
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20141028/ml--egypt-647d9f3618.html
ReplyDeleteEgypt to create buffer zone along Gaza border
"Egyptian media meanwhile has accused Gaza's Hamas rulers for meddling in Egypt's affairs, with some suggesting that the Islamic militant group is supporting fighters inside Egypt since the military overthrew Egypt's elected President, the Islamist Mohammed Morsi, last year.
Hamas officials meanwhile deny any interference and criticize Egypt for imposing stricter border crossing rules since then."
Call in the UN! Call in John Kerry! "Damned Zionist Egyptians"
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ReplyDeleteRead an article in The National Interest yesterday. It was by Jacob Heilbrunn, the editor, and it was titled Springtime for the Neocons.
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/springtime-neocons-11512?page=show
I would paste sections of the article but it is 3 pages long and covers the period from Vietnam through the current war in Iraq. Also, it would be difficult to pick a few paragraphs to encapsulate the spirit of the article even though there are some good quotes the author uses to make his points.
Most of the first page of the article recaps what a neocon is and where they came from. The second page pretty much presents the reasons the neocons and the liberal hawks consider Obama a weak sister and believe his foreign policy is flawed. The third page lays out the authors main arguments that can be summarized as,
a. Although he approaches it differently, Obama is as much a hawk as the neocons and the liberal militants.
b. Obama shares one trait with that group that is common to many (most?) neocons, incompetence in foreign policy.
c. Through an incompetent foreign policy, Obama has given new life to a faction that never should have been resuscitated, the neocons.
IMO, the article is pretty good and I am generally in agreement with the author’s conclusions. However, while I agree with the diagnosed incompetence, I would mildly disagree with the author on how Obama found himself with the problems he has had. The author seems to think Obama is a hawk by intent while I think he believed the words he spoke in Cairo but just kind of stumbled into or was pressured into the foreign policy situations that have created so many problems. There is no dispute about the incompetence with which he managed those situations though.
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I have a "dispute." There have been no Americans killed, nor treasure squandered in wars started by Obama.
DeleteSamey-same Bush? I don' thin' so.
hardeharharhar
DeleteThe current catastrophe in SunniLand is all your guys's fault.
No Americans dead yet but hold your breath.
Thank Allah for the Egyptian Military or it would be hell now there too.
Syria?
Left up to General Quirk, 'The Humanitarian'.
Syria - closing in on 300,000 deadies.....
DeleteI was whipped by General Quirk for even suggesting.......
DeleteHell, it's up to you assholes now, you voted for The MAN........
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DeletePerhaps, you should read the article before commenting, Rufus. What is it that you disagree with on the author's position which I summarized?
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I disagree with this statement.
Delete"There is no dispute about the incompetence with which he managed those situations though"
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DeleteCase in point, Libya. It was clear the man didn't want anything to do with Libya. Yet, due to pressure from allied oil interests, from the UK and France, and from the three Valkyries, Powers, Clinton, and Rice, he ignored the advice of guys like Donilon and Gates and invaded Libya under the bullshit pretense of 'humanitarian reasons'. The mission creep began almost immediately and the goal morphed into regime change. The 'coalition' then engaged in a war that saw more people killed than the arbitrary number we dreamed up that we were going to save. Then we left, leaving behind a non-functioning government and weapons up the kazoo that eventually found their way into the hands into every militant group in the ME with the effects we are still seeing there today. The country is now split much in the same manner that it was in before we intervened. I have seen recent articles that call the place a 'failed state'.
Goog job, Brownee.
You consider that Fubar a 'success' because we only spent $1-$2 billion over six months and we didn't lose any servicemen.
I don't.
I can get back to you later with more examples but right no I have to walk the dogs before it gets dark.
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Is is a tough call.......
ReplyDeleteWhat to do
What to do
A Free Kurdistan makes lots of sense.......
Hey, let's do that.....
!!!
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DeleteGo read some Chaucer.
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Chaucer was a realist, but you ain't read him.
DeleteAlso had a great sense of humor.
If you had read and absorbed Chaucer you would have a great chuckle at yourself, Quartz.
DeleteI LOL thinking about it.
Big roll on the floor.
hardeharhar.
Chaucer was a MASTER, you a servant.
(Q has slipped out of his uniform.......he is now playing for the Detroit No Legs)
DeleteRufus IITue Oct 28, 03:31:00 PM EDT
DeleteI have a "dispute." There have been no Americans killed, nor treasure squandered in wars started by Obama.
Samey-same Bush? I don' thin' so.
Pentagon confirms ‘1st US soldier’ dead in Iraq anti-ISIS campaign
http://rt.com/usa/199184-us-soldier-dead-iraq/
Neal is the “first casualty announced by the Department since Operation Inherent Resolve was announced,” said Maureen Schumann, a spokeswoman for the US Defense Department, according to the Guardian
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DeleteObumble, fancies himself a combination of the best of the Knight and the Pardoner when he is merely a sad amalgamation of the worst of the Miller and Hubert,the friar.
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All we need do to help create a a Kurdistan is some air power and financials and weapons.
ReplyDeleteWe can do that.
We should do that.
Troops needed?
Probably not.
It is in our own best interest.
That is what foreign policy is about.
How is creating an independent country called Kurdistan in USA's best interest?
DeleteActing in one's own best long term's self interest.
DeleteI am for that.
That is why I am for Israel.
It is in our interest - not to mention the interests of the women of the world - to do so.
A Free New Kurdistan is in our interests.
We should support anything that tends to errode an Ismalic state or Islam as a whole.
Why?
They want to kill us.
I don't like the sounds of that.
I am for a Free Miss T, and a Free Niece.
Anticipating our mentally destitute Croc Shit ......
DeleteThe Kurds are just kinda muzz......
AshTue Oct 28, 04:22:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteHow is creating an independent country called Kurdistan in USA's best interest?
Because it creates another place over there that we might be able to work with, would be able to work with....they would love us for long time.......because they would most likely get along with Israel........
In short, another Island in Shit Sea.
And, no harm that I can think of.......
Recall, Shit Sea is pledged to your destruction.
DeleteWas there an attack on the freely elected Canadian Parliament just recently ?
DeleteI think I read something about that on Drudge Report.....
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DeleteTranslation from above: I don't know what the hell I am talking about but I have pulled this position out of my ass because WiO suggested it was a good idea.
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What sorts o Peoples would contemplate doing that?
DeleteJews......nah
My father's life long business partner was a Canadian Jew.
All he wanted to do on his days off, and particularly at the end of life, was go golfing.
Shoot up the Canadian Parliament......
Never entered his head.
QuirkTue Oct 28, 04:41:00 PM EDT
ReplyDelete.
Translation from above: I don't know what the hell I am talking about but I have pulled this position out of my ass because WiO suggested it was a good idea.
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Come on, you can do better that this, Quatz, or I will disown own you.
I have thought of doing so in the past but have held off...........
ReplyDeleteit is, after all, a major emotional step for a young man like myself to take.........
DeleteSodaStream In Q3: Still Flat Or Finally Carbonated?
ReplyDeleteSummary
SODA seems to be in free-fall financially.
Company's quarterly expectations are disheartening.
Lack of strategic partnership opportunities for the company paint a rather bleak outlook for SODA.
Earlier this month I claimed that SodaStream (NASDAQ:SODA) would continue to do poorly in the US as long as they entertained no domestic strategic partners. Given the stock's recent poor performance, I continue to stand by my remarks. With their quarterly earnings slated to come at the opening of Wednesday's market, the question becomes whether or not the report will sound the beginning of the end of the company domestically. Despite the recent limited jump in stock value, the financials continue to look somewhat poor for the company.
By the numbers
SODA's immediate future looks rather bleak. Releasing disappointing preliminary results on October 7, the company has set benchmark revenues at $125 mn, down roughly 13.5% from last year's numbers. Though analysts are setting expectations slightly higher at around $140 mn for the quarter, even this level of revenues would constitute, at-best, minimal growth. EPS are similarly expected to do poorly. With estimates ranging from $.31 to $.74, the consensus seems to be that EPS this year will not hit the same levels as last year quarter's $.90.
The company's ticker does not inspire much confidence either. Falling from October 2013 highs of $64 a share (and more before that), the stock has seemed in freefall since June of last year. Even the bump gained Friday (in relation to SODA's announcement that Pepsi would be explored a limited 10 week partnership with the company) has already returned to its now-normal low levels.
The Bottom Line
Despite some minimal successes, SodaStream is not in a good financial position. Though PepsiCo has agreed to explore the benefits of a limited partnership, this will not be enough to save the exceedingly soft sales now being experienced by SODA. With the company's attempts at marketing and advertisement failing to bring in the additional needed sales, it begs the question: what can SODA do to revive its hopes of a US market?
Unfortunately for them, PepsiCo (NYSE:PEP) is either unwilling or unable to pursue a more integrated partnership, which leaves the company with few options. With competitor Keurig already partnered with Coca-Cola (NYSE:KO), SODA needs to find another partner and quick. For now, investors may consider looking elsewhere than a company that does not seem to have a viable approach to US markets.
once again you ignore it's history.
ReplyDelete5 years, went from 9 million to 40 million a year in net profits.
what you are posting is a hand job.
Stock price since "O"rdure claime it to be 'under valued' and made the 'buy' recommendation on 19July 2014 at $29.11, down to $21.92 today.
DeleteStock price over one year - $63.75 to $21.92
That is a loss of $41.83 per share.
Sales of Sodastream is not based on flavors (25%), but on sales of new machines (75%) and those nw machine sales have fallen through the floor.
Buy some more stock, "O"rdure, buy some more.
Double down on Sodastream.
Some of Quirk's last postings of late have exhibited a spark of thought.
ReplyDeleteProfessors, let us gather over lunch, and consider the matter, closely, and perhaps accept him as a student beginner.
There may be an issue 'of 'information flows in the brain' but we can "hash that out" at lunch.
DeleteHere we have it ...
ReplyDeleteJack HawkinsWed Oct 22, 10:04:00 PM EDT
The Zionists have raveled the world, killing those the deem enemies.
Even waiters in Europe that 'looked' like they were someone they were not.
The 'Mossad' has killed scores across Central America, helping to maintain the most rancid regimes in Guatemala, Panama, El Salvador and Honduras. Regimes that even the US refused to support, the Israeli jumped right in, teaching the techniques of population subjugation they had refined in Palestine.Techniques now being aught to US police orces across the land, fuckin' terrible things that are happening while we watch it occur.
The 'Mossad' has killed scores across Central America, helping to maintain the most rancid regimes in Guatemala, Panama, El Salvador and Honduras. Illustrated by a Mossad man being theIsraeli Ambassador to Guatemala, for a time, this was posted and linked to, can be again. Reference in El Salvador and Panama, could be again.
Regimes that even the US refused to support, the Israeli jumped right in, teaching the techniques of population subjugation they had refined in Palestine. Guatemala is the premier example, Panama at the end of Noriega's regime, tambien.
Techniques now being (t)aught to US police (f)orces across the land, fuckin' terrible things that are happening while we watch it occur. Again we travel to Guatemala, where Rios Mon, an Israeli client utilized the Mossad in setting up his G-2. This was posted and reference - can be again. The techniques utilized by he Mossad in Guatemala are now being taught to civilian police forces in the US. There are multiple exchange programs between the US and Israel to facilitate this training.
Note that NO WHERE in the piece offered by allen does it state that the Mossad is doing the training of US civilian police.
Only that the techniques used by the Mossad in Central America are being taught. Verifiable, posted and referenced, by the City of Atlanta, tambien.
That it is fuckin' a terrible thing, the piecemeal destruction of civil rights in the US, an opinion. If he wants to claim that the electronic surveillance, the stop and frisk techniques and such are not fuckin' terrible, he can.
Matters not at all, to me.
allen has positioned a strawman, and it has been burned.
...liar...loser...blowhard...
Deletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/lebanons-once-mighty-hezbollah-is-facing-attacks-in-syria--and-also-at-home/2014/10/27/81cd75a4-9d26-4f9b-b843-9fa0814b2471_story.html?wprss=rss_middle-east
ReplyDeleteLebanon’s once-mighty Hezbollah is facing attacks in Syria — and also at home
ditto
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