“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Tuesday, February 24, 2015

“In Sarajevo and in Syria, these are societies — in Bosnia, in Serbia, in Kosovo, in Syria — where ethnicities live side by side and intermarry for long periods of time until it becomes valuable to exploit the division. And yes, the division's there because you can always revert back to history, you can always inflame it, but it is manipulated for political ends.” -Anne-Marie Slaughter, president and CEO of the New America Foundation

Islamic State 'abducts dozens of Christians in Syria'

Map showing Tal Tamr and Hassakeh province in Syria
Islamic State (IS) has abducted dozens of Assyrian Christians from villages in north-eastern Syria, activists say.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that at least 90 men, women and children were seized in a series of dawn raids near the town of Tal Tamr.
Some Assyrians managed to escape and made their way east to the largely Kurdish-controlled city of Hassakeh.
It comes as Syrian Kurdish fighters backed by US-led air strikes continue to advance into IS-held territory.
Hassakeh province is strategically important in the fight against IS because it borders both Turkey and areas controlled by the group in Iraq.
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Activists reported that IS fighters swept through a string of villages along the banks of the Khabur river around dawn on Monday.
Syrian Kurdish YPG militia fighter sits on an armoured vehicle in Hassakeh, Syria (3 February 2014)There has been heavy fighting between Kurdish fighters and Islamic State militants in Hassakeh province
Supporters of Islamic State at a rally in Mosul (16 June 2014)IS has forced Christians living in its territory to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based group that monitors the four-year conflict in Syria, said at least 90 Assyrians had been taken captive, most of them from the village of Tal Shamran, about 45km (28 miles) from Hassakeh.
The head of the group A Demand For Action, which focuses on religious minorities in the Middle East, said between 70 and 100 were seized.
Nuri Kino told the Associated Press that about 3,000 managed to escape and had sought refuge in Hassakeh and Qamishli, to the north-east.
He said his group had spoken to several villagers and their relatives.

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I feel so helpless... I cannot do anything for them but pray”
Assyrian woman from Tal Shamran
An Assyrian woman from Tal Shamran who lives in Beirut told AP that she had been unable to make contact with members of her family.
"Landlines have been cut, their mobiles are closed," she said. "Have they been slaughtered? Are they still alive? We're searching for any news.
"My family visited me last month and returned to Syria. There were clashes but it was normal, nothing exceptional. 
"I feel so helpless. I cannot do anything for them but pray."
The Syrian Observatory also said Tal Tamr had seen heavy clashes between IS and the Kurdish Popular Protection Units (YPG) militia.
On Monday, the group and Kurdish officials said IS militants had been forced back to within 5km (3 miles) of the town of Tal Hamis, to the east.
Ancient community
Christians are believed to have constituted about 10% of Syria's 22 million people before the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad began almost four years ago.
Assyrians, of whom there were about 40,000 in Syria, are Nestorian Christians and speak Syriac, a form of Aramaic, the language of Christ.
Assyrian Christians from Iraq, Lebanon and Syria attend a Christmas Mass in Beirut (25 December 2014)Hundreds of thousands of Christians, many of them Assyrians, have fled Syria to escape the violence
The largest concentration of Assyrians in Syria is in Hassakeh province, but there are also smaller communities in Aleppo, Homs and Damascus. 
The Assyrian villages along the Khabur river were established by the French authorities during the mandate era for Assyrians who fled persecution in Iraq in 1933.
Many Assyrians are believed to have fled Syria not only to escape the conflict in the country but also violent attacks by extremist groups like IS, which has forced Christians living in the territory it controls to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death.
It was not clear what IS intended to do with its Assyrian captives. 
Earlier this month, militants in Libya affiliated to the group released a video showing them beheading 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians. 


  1. Well it was a taunt, since you only delete my posts and never the lies, slander and out and out fabrications and disgusting vile posts of your court jester Jack, Rat et al with the other dozen names he posts under.

    Maybe if you had CLEAR rules for all and not just the Jew who doesn't bow to you and your crap?

    But you ONLY have rules for me.

    But the funny thing, you are like the very ground hog day person you complain about...

    Israel BAD....

    Palestinians are victims.


    1. Buddy Larsen Thu Aug 28, 02:03:00 PM EDT

      Naw --BC was shut down, so i thought to check in & do some housekeeping --something i've been meaning to do for some time now --which is to acknowledge a ''ok, so you were right'' to DR's early crit of foreign policy stuff.

  2. ... , we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran.”
    Even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated with al-Qaeda.
    “We understand that they are pretty bad guys,”

    - Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren

    1. ISIS sucks. Murder thousands of folks...

      Iran, now directly slaughtering with Assad and Hezbollah almost 300,000 in Syria and have made almost 10 MILLIOn into real refugees.

      Iran now has control if Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen.

      Iran has billions of petrol dollars and an active international terror network that has murdered thousands across the globe.

      It is not a point of merit to point out that the LESSER of two evil is preferable to the GREATER of 2 evils.


    2. "We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish. . .

      Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment.

      After all, others will always remind us of their origin."

      - Sever Plocker,, Israel News, Opinion,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    3. Deuce, why not show you have some ethics? Delete the "anonymous" post.

    4. Out of context, misleading and not germane to the threat and pure libeling.

    5. Want to do a thread about Stalin?

      help yourself.

    6. The lessor of two evils ...

      That is what you said, that is what makes it germane.

      Assad, along with the Christians, Kurds and Alawites that are allied with him are analogous to Stalin and his Jewish henchman. ISIS are the NAZI. ISraeli NASI are suporting the ISIS NAZIs.

      That is the reality of the present situation.
      The European Jewish have always had a proclivity for murder and murders.
      Historical fact, as noted above.

    7. A historical fact that "O" acknowledges as truth.

    8. I can only wonder if the Jews are the killers you say they are? How come there are so many dang palestinians a foot?

      Millions and MILLIONS of them.. All confined to a tiny space...

      You claim that Israel unleashed bombardment of no equal and YET?

      israel barely killed 2,200!!!

      Where are those GREAT Jewish murderers when you need them?

    9. The United States is at war with ISIS, the ISraeli are supporting ISIS.
      That is the truth.
      Mr Oren said it, airstrikes that the ISraeli provide in support of ISIS confirms it.

    10. Assad, along with the Christians, Kurds and Alawites that are allied with him are analogous to Stalin and his Jewish henchman. ISIS are the NAZI. ISraeli NASI are suporting the ISIS NAZIs.

      Assad is historically allied with actual Nazis.

      learn history.


    11. . "You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror."

      - George W Bush

    12. So now you are claiming, once again, that the Christians in Syria are NAZIs?

      You have made that claim in the past, are you making it again?

    13. So, there it is.
      "O"rdure is trying make Assad the focus of our attention. He is correct that Assad is a Baathist, that there is a political genealogy that connects Baathism to the NAZI. Totally true, and totally irrelevant.

      The focus of the United States is the war on those organizations that were responsible for the attacks on the United States on 11SEP2001. The political genealogy of ISIS is clear, they are the progeny of that organization, Assad is not.
      Assad may be evil, as was Stalin and his Jewish henchmen, but the US looked beyond that truth and supported him against what the US considered a greater evil.

      Now, the US is at war with ISIS, ISrael supports ISIS, militarily, with air trikes against the enemies of ISIS.
      That is a fact, easily referenced.

      The policy of the United States made clear by Mr Bush, as noted above.
      ISrael is operating against the interests of the United States.
      ISrael is supporting the terrorists that have attacked US

      "You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror."
      - George W Bush

      ISrael has made it clear where they stand.

    14. Since Jack thinks that since a JEW worked for Stalin and murdered a very large number of innocents that somehow that is transferable to the Jewish State.

      But since the Assad political system, the Baathists, which is still in power, had in fact aligned itself with Nazi Germany is NOT germane.

      Israel, not ISrael stands on the side of it's own survival.

      America is not fighting any war in Syria that threatens it's survival. In Fact you have argued that Iran is no threat to America.

      So why is America bombing ISIS 9000 miles away from it's shores?

      How many women and children are being slaughtered by America and now, as you claim, and it's allies, Syria, Hezbollah and Iran?

      When America bombs ISIS do they KNOW who they kill?

      Why does America support Iran, Syria, Russia and Hezbollah in the mass murder, shall we say? GENOCIDE of the Sunni arabs of Syria?

      Whose "side" is America on and why?

      meanwhile, Israel is HELPING the USA with allowing the American overflight privileges to gain access to the ISIS targets.

      So does that mean Israel is helping slaughter the ISIS while helping the the Iranians too?

      Of what a web of deceit you weave when Jack tries to deceive…

    15. ISrael's primary shill at the Elephant Bar continues to avoid the point.

      ISrael is standing shoulder to shoulder with the enemies of the United States.
      ISrael is fighting those that are fighting ISIS.

      The man who calls himself an American citizen and who yet shows by his actions that he is primarily the citizen of a foreign land, plays a thoroughly mischievous part in the life of our body politic.

      He has no place here; and the sooner he returns to the land to which he feels his real heart-allegiance, the better it will be for every good American.”

      Theodore Roosevelt 

    16. Israel is standing shoulder to shoulder with America.

      It funds and supports those that support Isis, Many of the sunni arab nations
      It now funds and supports those that support Assad and the Iranians, Hamas, PA and others.

      America is funding and standing shoulder to should on both sides of the debate.

    17. .

      Why ask why, WiO?

      It's the rat.

      Nuff said.

      He disqualified himself on this subject when he crossed over the Godwin line.


    18. Yeah, we wouldn't want to draw analogies to WWII, that just blows the Legionnaire's mind.

      Promises Made, Promises Broken - the motto of Legionnaire Q.

    19. Just the largest casualty occurrence in the 20th century, but the Legionnaire thinks its best not to bring it up.

      Stalin v Hitler ... Of the estimated 70 million deaths attributed to World War II, over 30 million, many of them civilian, occurred on the Eastern Front.

      Shhh, Mr Godwin and the Legionnaire Q take offense at the mention of history and any lesson that could be gleaned from it...

    20. .

      The only offense I take, rat, is with your slimy anti-Jewish agitprop.

      As for your simplistic analogies, they aren't even worth commenting on.


    21. post 'em Legionnaire

      You Promised

    22. .

      Actually, rat, once you completed that assignment I gave you, doing the grunt work, tracking down that post and all, I kind of lost interest in it.

      I promised?

      You know that's not true. I was a bit giddy when you finally got around to completing that task I gave you and I said I might consider it. Well, I considered it and decided against it. It's not worth time to be digging through a couple years of blog streams.

      Besides, to make my point, I only have to put up a single instance of your lying. Heck, you are a serial liar. Once you lie, you just keep repeating the same lie numerous times which is the meaning of legion when its used as an adjective. You even do it despite the fact that you are corrected on it.

      Then you compound it by lying about the lying, again numerous times.




  3. Will the PA be forced to dissolve? The dangers of Palestinian recession

    The PA cannot guarantee its residents a fair economic subsistence, even under the occupation, due to Israel's prohibitive policies, which in eight years have cost the authority tens of billions of shekels.

    Between the U.S. court decision against the PLO and the cut off of electrical power to the northern West Bank – the warped logic of the continuing existence of the Palestinian Authority, an entity that should have been temporary but became permanent, reached new heights on Monday.

    From the day of its founding two decades ago, the PA had responsibilities and duties, but was deprived of authority and resources. The Oslo Accords between an organization (the PLO) and a state (Israel) created this asymmetric reality: In it, the occupied bears legal and financial responsibility toward the occupier and its citizens, and it is punished if it rises up against the foreign ruler.
    The occupier is free to keep ruling and to harm the occupied.

  4. I harbor some hope for Egypt. Does anyone else get the feeling many Egyptians are not so comfortable with their Moslem identity ?

    Take Sadat. Killed by the MB for making peace.

    I recall he said once "We are Eguyptians, not Moslems."

    He even had that mysterious old Egyptian look about him.

    Sisi seems to me to come from something of the same mold.

    Egypt is a coherent society down deep. They have been sheltered there for God knows how long. They rarely have real civil wars. The pyramids are not walking away. Their troubles always come from the MB, de-fanged once again. May Sisi have a long life.

    Maybe it's all wishful thinking on my part.

    But Moslems bombing other Moslems on behalf on beheaded Christians......

    This seems remarkable to me.

    1. Saudi Arabia condemns man to death for renouncing Islam......Drudge

      I haven't read of this type of thing in Egypt under the Egyptian military.

      Hope I just haven't missed it.

  5. I now have access to a Jeep Cherokee.

    When the ground dries it is going to get some use out at the farm, putting up a video cam in the proper place, searching for wolf tracks, getting back in there to the places I can't see from the road, counting elk, and maybe, with luck, used as a firing platform.

    I have my eye on a Ruger .243 at Wal-Mart. I've had a .223, a .270, a 300 Magnum (grrr), a 30.06. Time to try something new.

    $368 plus tax, no scope.

    I hope to post a wolf trophy picture here sometime in the future.....

    And piss a few of you city boys off......

    I think of these wolves as ISIS on all fours.

    They are not kind to their victims.....

  6. February 24, 2015
    Comcast, Al Sharpton named in $20 billion racial discrimination suit
    By Rick Moran

    The National Association of African-American Owned Media is suing Comcast, Time Warner Cable, various black advocacy groups, and Al Sharpton for $20 billion dollars, claiming the defendants discriminate, or facilitate discrimination against black owned media companies.

    The group claims that Sharpton and other black advocacy groups were "bought off" by Comcast/TWC to support the upcoming merger between the two media giants.......


    Al, who has been in the Obama White House nearly 100 times, and never pays his taxes, deserves all he gets.

    Off to work here. Try it sometime. Refreshing.

    Out for part/most of day

    Cheers !

  7. The latest raids, staged between Monday and Tuesday mornings, included 16 strikes in Syria. Ten of them were focused near the town of Al Hasakah, hitting nine tactical units, while six targeted other tactical units and fighting positions, the task force said in a statement.

    In Iraq, tactical units, a fighting position and a heavy machine gun were struck near . . . . . . . .

    Where the Action Is

    <a href="

  8. A tactical unit - is this a pickup truck ?

    A fighting position - I have no idea what this might be.

    A heavy machine gun - hmmmm

    It could be I suppose that pickup truck with a heavy machine gun in the bed was attacked as it maneuvered into a fighting position where the action is.....

    1. No. A pickup truck with a mounted weapon is a "technical" vehicle.

      I take the term to probably, most usually, describe an approximately "Squad" sized unit. ex. In the Marine Corps a platoon is made up of 4 fourteen man squads.

      The definition of "tactcal unit" is: a self-contained unit capable of operating for a limited time pretty much on its own.

    2. A "fighting position" could be larger, or smaller, but, just think of a bunker (sandbags, firing positions, etc.)

    3. OK, I shall try to get my terms straight.

      Thank you.

    4. A "heavy" machine gun? Just think - .50 Caliber. It's Heavy. The Mount is Heavy. The Ammo is Heavy. It requires a crew.

      And, being on the wrong end of one when it's angry can definitely be a Heavy experience.

    5. And, since you literally have no fucking idea as to what you're talking about, you should, really, stick with fairy tales, and childrens' stories - aka myths, philosophies, and religion.

    6. Ah, Rufus, you old fart, and I was trying to be soooooo nice.

      My line about a pickup truck with a machine gun in the bed establishing a 'fighting position' was polite mockery of you, you old gander.

      Let me tell ya something, Bubba, it's gonna be a century of Fourth of Julys before they rid Iraq of all ISIS if that's all they do every day.

      You really ought to quit drinking, you old fuckless ignorant fart.


    7. General Rufus
      Iraq ISIS free by the 4th


  9. Frontrunner: Scott Walker 25, Ben Carson 18, Jeb Bush 17 in new poll of Republicans
    Feb 24, 2015 3:21 PM by Allahpundit
    Hot Air Headline

    Walker/Carson might be good.

    Or, Carson/Walker.

  10. Al Swedi joins ISIS.

    "Al Swedi"

    You got to admit, some of this shit is more than tinged with humor.


    Sweden’s Multicultural Center Expert on Islamophobia Joins ISIS
    February 23, 2015 by Daniel Greenfield

    I am soooooo glad grandfather got out when he did.

    1. Yeah, those Muslims cut off the hands of thieves, you'd be called 'Stumpy' and not "Draft Dodger" if you were living under Sharia Law, like you approved of for US troops in Iraq.

      Good thing smarter men than you, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, were and still are in charge.

    2. "There is something really wrong with you, rat."


    3. When did she say that, "Draft Dodger"?
      Can you tell us the year, month or day?

      I doubt it, because it is a delusion that you have created.

      bobal Sat Sep 06, 09:21:00 PM EDT
      After an eight year law suit with most of my relatives, I've finally found some sanity on line.

      You only think you found your sanity, even that is a delusion.


  11. Arab-Israeli Conflict


    02/24/2015 22:09
    Report: Saudis might help Israel attack Iran in exchange for progress in peace process

    US and Iran moving closer to nuclear deal, EU diploma...
    Netanyahu: If emerging nuclear deal with Iran is so g...
    Arab governments express concern over Iran deal, pote...

    The Channel 2 report said the Saudi ministers have relayed this message in private to European sources.
    MEMBERS OF the palace staff stand in waiting during Saudi Arabia’s King Salman’s meeting with Obama

    MEMBERS OF the palace staff stand in waiting during Saudi Arabia’s King Salman’s meeting with US President Barack Obama at Erga Palace in Riyadh in January. (photo credit:REUTERS)

    In private talks with European sources, the Saudis have expressed their willingness to cooperate with Israel on Iran, including use of Saudi air space by the IDF for a possible air strike, according to a report by Channel 2.

    Cooperation with Saudi Arabia would not come free, however. According to the report, the Saudi officials said they would need to see progress between Israelis and Palestinians before having enough legitimacy to allow Israel to use their air space.

    Arab governments, not only Israel, have been expressing concern over the development of a deal with Iran over its nuclear program, the Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

    Talks with Iran over its nuclear program have instilled fear within some major Sunni states, such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates that a nuclear arms race will break out in the region, and brought about speculation regarding the possible extension of a US nuclear umbrella to its non-nuclear-armed Middle East allies.

    According to the Wall Street Journal, concerned Arab states said that a nuclear deal allowing Iran to keep its nuclear-producing technologies would likely drive nations in the region to develop nuclear capabilities in order to match those of Iran's.

    An Arab official, according to the WSJ, said that the collapse of negotiations with Iran is preferable to a bad nuclear deal - a comment similar to those previously iterated by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    US and Arab diplomats say that, although Arab nations have avoided matching statements made by Israel, they share many of the same fears regarding a nuclear deal with Iran, the Wall Street Journal reported.

    Reports that the United States was negotiating a 10-year nuclear deal with Iran are not true, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said on Tuesday.

    The Wall Street Journal reported that the United States and Iran were exploring the option of a 10-year nuclear freeze as part of talks over Tehran's nuclear program.

    Reuters contributed to this report

    1. Qatar, the same folks that fund ISIS.

    2. The US would not want to do anything to piss those Wahhabi off., Nah, ought to get close to the Iranians to put a little fear in those Wahhabi hearts and minds.

    3. That would go a long way towards bringing stability to that region of the world.

  12. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is a monarchy ruled by King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, who is both head of state and head of government. The government bases its legitimacy on its interpretation of sharia (Islamic law) and the 1992 Basic Law, which specifies that the rulers of the country shall be male descendants of the founder King Abdulaziz bin Abdulrahman al-Saud.

    Saudi Arabia

  13. Howdy Sam.

    Off to the Casino.....


  14. On Monday some progress was reported in talks, with diplomats admitting Western powers aim for a deal lasting at least ten years under which Iran will be left with its centrifuges, but would need at least one year to produce enough highly enriched uranium for a single nuclear bomb, the so-called "breakout" capacity. Iran has been pressing for 19 times its current enrichment capacity.


    After the US admitted to hiding details about the Iran negotiations from Israel, Netanyahu responded to the administration of US President Barack Obama, saying if the deal is safe "what is there to hide here?"

    Iran just this Saturday threatened Israel, saying it can destroy Tel Aviv within ten minutes with the rockets in its possessions, heightening fears about leaving the Islamic regime with nuclear capabilities.

    1. Exactly, "Who" in Iran made this threat?

    2. Quick scan of the 'news' does not provide any confirmation of Sam's report

      goggling the quote provides two Israeli sources of the quote, neither site their source.
      It appears to be agitprop misinformation. uses above link as souce

    3. Rufus. Are u so far up the mullah's ass you cannot hear? No matter who says it? U defend iran. Sick

    4. Israeli agitprop is still a lie

    5. I have no idea what you're talking about; but, then, I rarely ever do.

      If it's about my question to Sam; well, the fact is, I know Iran didn't say anything of the sort that he mentioned, because countries don't talk.

      People, however, do. So, I assumed that it was someone from within that country that actually made the statement that Sam was referring to. I was simply asking, "who?"

    6. This comment has been removed by the author.

  15. Sorry, from here:

  16. Replies
    1. But as I am sure you'll agree, sam, they do not quote a source for that statement, they merely make it themselves.


  17. Democrats have embraced the more fatalist view that a DHS shutdown would be a disaster in the wake of recent terrorism threats.

    Sunday morning, the DHS funding debate hit home for Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota. A video emerged of terrorist group al-Shabaab calling for attacks on shopping centers, like the Mall of America in her own backyard.

    "This is the time when we should be stepping up our security, not stepping down our security," Klobuchar said during a press conference Tuesday with two dozen of her colleagues.

    A wall of Democrats echoed the sentiment Tuesday, recounting horrifying security breaches around the globe as evidence of why Congress cannot punt the debate any longer.

    "We have said for going on five weeks that it is extremely important ... that we have a fully funded Department of Homeland Security," Minority Leader Harry Reid said at the presser. "ISIS is funded. We see that every day on TV."

    While Americans may be divided on whether Obama overstepped his bounds on immigration, Democrats are betting that the American public still prioritizes safety over all else.

  18. WaPo- President Obama vetoed the Keystone XL pipeline legislation Tuesday within hours of its arrival on his desk. Few bills have arrived with such fanfare and died so quickly.

  19. Looks like it's from this dude:

    A senior figure in the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, Mujtabi Du Al-Nour, threatened on Saturday that Iran will destroy Tel Aviv in ten minutes if Israel "makes a mistake" and strikes the Islamic regime's nuclear facilities.

  20. Quite often the Iranian government backed mobs in the street chant "Death to the USA, Death to Israel" and often go on to list a bunch of other countries too.

    Ahmedinajad often talked of a world without the USA, without Israel, even at the UN once, IIRC.

    So far I haven't heard them chant "Death to Mississippi, Death to Arizona, Death to Pennsylvania" but I assume they are covered in 'USA'.

    You boys that support Iran over Israel, Deuce, rat, Rufus, perhaps you should do as the Iranians wish, and kill yourselves.

    After all, Iran is "fighting for civilization".

    It would only be the civilized thing to do.

  21. WiO, Rufus is so out of it these days he really can't be held accountable for what he says.

    Thankfully he is not a threat to others as he stays at home most of the time, only venturing out to Doyle's once in a while for poker.

    1. Though I do have a hunch that if he started spouting his non sense at Doyle's others might be a threat to him.

    2. Just look at his prediction that Iraq will be ISIS free by July 4th, 2015.

      Only someone who has totally lost touch would wander out on such a weak dead limb.

    3. Our other General, who totally lost touch with reality long ago, upe the ante and moved the prediction to Memorial Day, 2015.

      Then he got cold feet, hedged, and claimed it was Labor Day.

      So Labor Day it is......Labor Day 2015 Iraq will be ISIS free.

      What this country really needs is a Lobotomy Day for such 'Generals' and self proclaimed 'military experts'.