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Thursday, August 07, 2014

Yes, the Yazidis are fighting back -

UPDATE 6-Islamic State extends gains in north Iraq, reach Kurdistan border area
Thu Aug 7, 2014 9:07pm IST

*Islamic State extends gains in north, takes Kurdish border post
* Pope, France urge international action to stop Islamists
* Residents flee biggest Christian town
* Islamic State seen as more hardline than al-Qaeda
* U.N. says some Yazidis rescued, many at risk in mountains (Adds Islamic State at border post)
By Isabel Coles
ARBIL, Iraq, Aug 7 (Reuters) - Islamist militants surged across northern Iraq towards the capital of the Kurdish region on Thursday, sending tens of thousands of Christians fleeing for their lives, in an offensive that has alarmed the Baghdad government and world powers.
Reuters photographs showed Islamic State fighters controlling a checkpoint at the border area of the Kurdish semi-autonomous region, little over 30 minutes' drive from Arbil, a city of 1.5 million that is headquarters to the Kurdish regional government and of many businesses.
Sunni militants earlier captured Iraq's biggest Christian town, Qaraqosh, prompting many residents to flee, fearing they would be subjected to the same demands the Sunni militants made in other captured areas - leave, convert to Islam or face death.
The Islamic State, considered more extreme than al-Qaeda, sees Iraq's majority Shi'ites and minorities such as Christians and Yazidis, a Kurdish ethno-religious community, as infidels.
In Rome, Pope Francis appealed to world leaders to help end what the Vatican called "the humanitarian tragedy now under way" in northern Iraq. France called for an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council to "counter the terrorist threat in Iraq".
Shares in energy companies operating in Iraqi Kurdistan plummeted on news of the sweeping Islamist advance towards oilfields in the region.
The militant group said in a statement on its Twitter account that its fighters had seized 15 towns, the strategic Mosul dam on the Tigris River and a military base, in an ongoing offensive that began at the weekend.
Kurdish officials say their forces still control the dam, Iraq's biggest. The Kurds have appealed
On Thursday, two witnesses told Reuters by telephone that Islamic State fighters had hoisted the group's black flag over the dam, which could allow the militants to flood major cities or cut off significant water supplies and electricity.
The Sunni militants inflicted a humiliating defeat on Kurdish forces in the weekend sweep, prompting tens of thousands from the ancient Yazidi community to flee the town of Sinjar for surrounding mountains.

Some of the many thousands trapped on Sinjar mountain have been rescued in the past 24 hours, a spokesman for the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said, adding that 200,000 had fled the fighting.
"This is a tragedy of immense proportions, impacting the lives of hundreds of thousands of people," spokesman David Swanson said by telephone.
Many of the displaced people urgently need water, food, shelter and medicine, he said. A spokesman for the U.N. agency for children said many of the children on the mountain were suffering from dehydration and at least 40 had died.
Yazidis, seen by the Islamic State as "devil worshipers", risk being executed by the Sunni militants seeking to establish an Islamic empire and redraw the map of the Middle East.
Thousands of Iraqis, most of the Yazidis, are streaming to the border with neighbouring Turkey to flee the fighting, Turkish officials said.
In Kirkuk, a strategic oil town in the north held by Kurdish forces since government troops melted away in June, 11 people were killed by two car bombs that exploded near a Shi'ite mosque holding displaced people, security and medical sources said.
In other violence, a car bomb in a Shi'ite area of Baghdad killed 14.
Gains by the Islamic State have raised concerns that militants across the Arab world will follow their cue. At the weekend the Sunni militants seized a border town in Lebanon, though they appear to have mostly withdrawn.
The Islamic State, which has declared a caliphate in the areas of Iraq and Syria it controls, clashed with Kurdish forces on Wednesday in the town of Makhmur, about 40 miles southwest of Arbil, the capital of the Kurdish autonomous zone.
Witnesses said the militants had seized Makhmur, but Kurdish officials told local media their forces remained in control there, and television channels broadcast footage of Kurdish peshmerga fighters driving around the town.
The mainly Christian town of Tilkaif, as well as Al Kwair, were overrun by militants, according to witnesses.

The Islamic State poses the biggest threat to Iraq's integrity since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003. Its fighters and their Sunni allies also control a big chunk of western Iraq.
The group has deepened sectarian tensions, pushing the country back to the dark days of the civil war that peaked in 2006-2007 under U.S.-led occupation.
Bombings, kidnappings and executions are routine once again in Iraq, an OPEC member. Religious and ethnic minorities that have lived in the plains of the northern province of Nineveh are particularly vulnerable.
Sunni militants have been purging Shi'ite Muslims of the Shabak and ethnic Turkmen minorities from towns and villages in Nineveh, and last month set a deadline for Christians to leave the provincial capital Mosul or be killed.
The death toll from car bombings in crowded markets in Shi'ite areas of Baghdad climbed overnight to 59, with 125 wounded, security and medical sources said.
The Islamic State's gains have prompted Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a Shi'ite, to order his airforce to help the Kurds, whose reputation as fearsome warriors was called into question by their defeat.
There were several airforce strikes on Wednesday, including one the government said killed 60 "terrorists" in Mosul, but they did not appear to have broken the Islamic State's momentum.
The militants' capture of the town of Sinjar, ancestral home of the Yazidi ethnic minority, prompted tens of thousands of people to flee to surrounding mountains, where they are at risk of starvation.
The Islamic State sees the Yazidis, followers of an ancient religion derived from Zoroastrianism, as "devil worshippers". They are spread across a large area of northern Iraq and are part of the country's Kurdish minority.
Many of their villages were destroyed when Saddam Hussein's troops tried to crush the Kurds. Some were taken away by the executed former dictator's intelligence agents.
Now they are on the defensive again.
Maliki has been serving in a caretaker capacity since an inconclusive election in April.
He has defied calls by Kurds, Sunnis, fellow Shi'ites and regional power broker Iran to give up his bid for a third term and make room for a less polarising figure who can unite Iraqis against the Islamic State.

But Maliki, an unknown when he first took office with considerable U.S. support in 2006, remains defiant, warning that any interference in the process of choosing a new prime minister would open the "gates of hell" in Iraq. (Additional reporting by Tom Miles in Geneva and James Mackenzie in Rome; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Paul Taylor, Janet McBride and Will Waterman)


  1. The peshmerga – “those who confront death” – had acquired reputations as fierce warriors who once took on Saddam Hussein’s troops. But they gave way before the Islamic State militants, who had seized tanks and armored personnel carriers from the Iraqi military when they swept through the north in June.

    Iraq’s U.S.-trained and funded army crumbled, leaving the Kurds and Shia militias to fight back against Sunni militants, who were gaining momentum after launching a weekend offensive. The Islamic State said it has now captured Iraq’s biggest dam, a military base and 15 towns.

    The Yazidis appear to be paying the heaviest humanitarian price for the ambitions of the Islamic State, which has declared a caliphate in parts of Iraq and Syria and has threatened to march on Baghdad.

    “Most of the families were stopped by Islamic State militants while they were leaving and the militants killed men. Some were beheaded,” said Abu Ali, 38, who was hiding with tens of thousands of others on Sinjar Mountain.

    “One of the saddest stories was one of our relatives. They beheaded all his 15 family members in front of him and then took him with them.”


  2. No sign of “Operation St. Louis”.

    1. Cannot find any reference to what you are speaking..

    2. The "War" in Gaza has nothing to do with Jihad, it has everything to do with Zionism and European Colonialism

    3. As to the morality of the Zionists, just Google "The Patra"

      And learn how the Zionists murdered 252 Jewish refugees to gain a propaganda advantage.

  3. Even the Pope is urging action to stop ISIS?

    And Quart calls me a "warmonger".

    By the way, I have read that never in all the time we were in Iraq was an American soldier killed in the Kurdish area.

    Yes, I think we should use air power to stop genocide by ISIS in Kurdistan.

    I'm with the Pope.

    1. How many Divisions can he field?
      Are you volunteering to fight, "Draft Dodger" Robert Peterson?

  4. Hey, Quart, did you see that above?

    Looks like even Holy Father wants to stop the Slaughter of the Flock.

    The Vatican has always been a hotbed of "warmongers".

  5. Rasmussen now has Tillis up over Hagan by 5 in the North Carolina Senate race -

    Rasmussen Reports 8/5 - 8/6 750 LV 4.0 45 40 Tillis +5


  6. From the point of view of Freudian psychology, ISIS can be seen as the perfect representation of a return of the repressed religion.

    The lid of the social superego is taken totally off, and all the creepy crawly repressed murderous raging impulses of the old primitive id come gushing up. Since this is said to be blessed by the Most High there is absolutely no restraint, and the poor ego doesn't have to struggle much to come to terms.

    ISID, it should be called, not ISIS.

  7. Will Quart fall silent, now that Holy Father Pope Warmonger I has spoken?

    1. It does seem that President Barack Warmonger Obama is actually getting ready to do something.

      This may mark the first time I have supported Obama on anything other than taking the wolves off the Endangered Species List.

  8. NYT reports USA bombing strikes in Kurdistan. Pentagon denies.

    Maybe the Israelis?


    1. American Forces Said to Bomb ISIS Targets in Iraq

      By ALISSA J. RUBINAUG. 7, 2014

      Iraqis who fled their homes in Sinjar were transported to Dohuk Province on Thursday. Credit Adam Ferguson for The New York Times
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      DOHUK, Iraq — American military forces bombed at least two targets in northern Iraq on Thursday night to rout Islamist insurgents who have trapped tens of thousands of religious minorities in Kurdish areas, Kurdish officials said.
      Continue reading the main story
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      Rebels Capture Iraq’s Largest DamAUG. 7, 2014

      Word of the bombings, reported on Kurdish television from the city of Erbil, came as President Obama was preparing to make a statement in Washington.

      Kurdish officials said the bombings targeted fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria who had seized two towns, Gwer and Mahmour. Residents who had fled those areas by car were heard honking their horns in approval.

      Obama administration officials had said earlier in the day that Mr. Obama was considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from ISIS.

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  9. Kurdish TV: U.S. bombs ISIS targets in Iraq

    posted at 5:21 pm on August 7, 2014 by Allahpundit

    True or false? The Times thinks it’s solid enough to relay the news:

    American military forces bombed at least two targets in northern Iraq on Thursday night to rout Islamist insurgents who have trapped tens of thousands of religious minorities in Kurdish areas, Kurdish officials said.

    Word of the bombings, reported on Kurdish television from the city of Erbil, came as President Obama was preparing to make a statement in Washington.

    Kurdish officials said the bombings targeted fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria who had seized two towns, Gwer and Mahmour.

    The Pentagon says it’s nonsense:

    Okay, but (a) administration sources told the Times earlier that the White House was considering airstrikes, (b) the Kurds were reportedly reaching out to Turkey for airstrikes too, and (c) the Pentagon might have good reason to deny this even if it’s true, namely, if other operations against ISIS are in motion. Kurdish TV may have tipped off the enemy before it was supposed to.

    Let’s get a thread up now, as events are moving fast. Updates to come.

    Update: How dire is the situation in Kurdistan?

    Kurdish fighters scrambled to set up a defensive line Thursday after militants from the Islamic State seized four strategic towns on a key highway and advanced to positions just minutes from Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region…

    [Kurdish military commander Rosg Nuri] Shawess, who also is a member of the Iraqi government’s national security council, called the situation “extremely critical” as he examined the foremost strong point along the highway. He described the Kurdish military plight as “too much distance to protect, with too few men and not enough weapons.”

    “The Americans keep saying they will help us,” he added as surveillance planes or drones, likely American, circled far above the clouds. “Well, if they plan to help they had better do it now.”

    The Yazidis starving on Mount Sinjar is bad, ISIS seizing the Mosul Dam is worse, and ISIS overrunning the one solid ally America has in the region is probably worst of all. Maybe the threat to Irbil finally convinced Obama to act. I’m honestly shocked that the jihadis could have the peshmerga so far back on their heels that the capital of Kurdistan could be under threat, but maybe that’s my own ignorance showing. If the Kurds aren’t going to push ISIS back, though, who is? Turkey? The Saudis?

  10. <<<>>>Sinjar Mountains
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Nineveh Province, Iraq
    Elevation 1,356 m (4,449 ft)
    Coordinates 36°22′0.22″N 41°43′18.62″ECoordinates: 36°22′0.22″N 41°43′18.62″E
    Anticlinal structures in Nineveh. Jebel Sinjar is the largest and most western structure

    Sinjar Mountain[1] (Arabic: جبل سنجار‎;[2] also Shengar/Shengal Mountains; Kurdish: چیای شه‌نگال/شه‌نگار) is a single ridge of mountains located in Nineveh Governorate in northwestern Iraq. It is situated near a city of the same name (Sinjar).

    The mountains are mainly inhabited by Yazidis[3] who venerate them and consider the highest to be the place where Noah's Ark settled after the biblical flood.[4]

    In August 2014 an estimated 40,000 Yazidis fled to the mountains following attacks by Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) attacks on the city of Sinjar.[5]<<<>>>


    Noah's Ark actually came to rest on Mt. Borah in Idaho.


  11. One thing we should do is send in Special Forces to control that dam in northern Iraq so ISID doesn't blow it and flood out a few million people.

    1. A humanitarian gesture so hundreds of thousands of Iraqi kids don't go floating.

    2. Most of whom probably don't know how to swim.

  12. .

    CNN reported the US is planning air drops as relief for the 40,000 starving on the mountain.

    Probably using C130s with jets flying cover.

    It's the minimum we should be doing given the hundreds of thousands that were killed in the war we started.



    1. We never should have invaded Kuwait.

    2. LOL war that WE started..

      We didn't start the fire...

      Mohammed did...

      But that's real history from a long time ago...

      Where do you wish to start the countdown?

      1920? 1990? somewhere in-between?

      Tell us oh wise Quart, where is the definitive "start" time...

    3. March 20, 2003

      Hmm, so you start the line in the sand AFTER Bill Clinton's 8 years of war in Iraq?

      That's odd...

      But not unexpected.

    4. But thanks for at least answering, of course, I don't disagree we don't have to go back to the setting up Iraq and Jordan as Hashimite Kingdoms after they were booted from Saudi Arabia, but context and history goes along way...

      No March 20, 2003 is not a fair line in the sand as for the current shit in Iraq. i'd suggest we call the line the day after the end of the Iran /Iraq war...

      The Iran–Iraq War, also known as the First Persian Gulf War,[27][28][29][30][31] was an armed conflict between the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Republic of Iraq lasting from September 1980 to August 1988, making it the 20th century's longest conventional war.[32][33] It was initially referred to in English as the "Gulf War" prior to the Persian Gulf War of the early 1990s.[34]

      The Iran–Iraq War began when Iraq invaded Iran via air and land on 22 September 1980. It followed a long history of border disputes, and was motivated by fears that the Iranian Revolution in 1979 would inspire insurgency among Iraq's long-suppressed Shia majority as well as Iraq's desire to replace Iran as the dominant Persian Gulf state. Although Iraq hoped to take advantage of Iran's revolutionary chaos and attacked without formal warning, they made only limited progress into Iran and were quickly repelled; Iran regained virtually all lost territory by June 1982. For the next six years, Iran was on the offensive.[35] A number of proxy forces participated in the war, most notably the Iranian Mujahedin-e-Khalq siding with Ba'athist Iraq and Iraqi Kurdish militias of Kurdish Democratic Party and Patriotic Union of Kurdistan siding with Iran—all suffering a major blow by the end of the conflict.

      Despite calls for a ceasefire by the United Nations Security Council, hostilities continued until 20 August 1988. The war finally ended with Resolution 598, a U.N.-brokered ceasefire which was accepted by both sides. At the war's conclusion, it took several weeks for Iranian armed forces to evacuate Iraqi territory to honour pre-war international borders set by the 1975 Algiers Agreement.[36] The last prisoners of war were exchanged in 2003.[35][37]

      The war cost both sides in lives and economic damage: half a million Iraqi and Iranian soldiers, with an equivalent number of civilians, are believed to have died, with many more injured; however, the war brought neither reparations nor changes in borders. The conflict has been compared to World War I[38]:171 in terms of the tactics used, including large-scale trench warfare with barbed wire stretched across trenches, manned machine-gun posts, bayonet charges, human wave attacks across a no-man's land, and extensive use of chemical weapons such as mustard gas by the Iraqi government against Iranian troops, civilians, and Iraqi Kurds. At the time of the conflict, the U.N. Security Council issued statements that "chemical weapons had been used in the war." U.N. statements never clarified that only Iraq was using chemical weapons, and according to retrospective authors "the international community remained silent as Iraq used weapons of mass destruction against Iranian[s] as well as Iraqi Kurds."[39][40][41]

      This to me set the stage for WMD, Iraq and Saddam Hussein's term of usefulness coming to an end and the "line in the sand" that started the next chapter...

  13. Someone is attacking ISID from the air -

    IRBIL, Iraq — Jet aircraft attacked Islamic State positions outside the town of Kalak, 25 miles northwest of Irbil, the capital of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdish region, a resident of Kalak told McClatchy early Friday.

    The resident, reached by phone from Irbil, said she had seen the aircraft and had heard the explosions coming from behind Islamic State lines, which are slightly more than a mile away. The resident said because it was dark she could not see any markings on the aircraft.

    Kurdish television reported that the bombers were American. There was no confirmation from U.S. officials in Washington, however, and the Pentagon spokesman, Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby, called reports that the U.S. had conducted airstrikes in Iraq “completely false.”

    “No such action was taken,” the tweet said.

    Iraqi fighter jets recently received from Russia also reportedly have engaged in bombing runs in the area this week after Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al Maliki on Monday ordered the Iraqi air force to assist Kurdish forces.

    The reported bombing came after a day of panic in the Kurdish capital following Islamic State militants’ seizure of four strategic towns on a key highway and their advance to positions just minutes from Irbil.

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/08/07/235716/islamic-state-pushes-back-kurdish.html?sp=/99/100/&ihp=1#storylink=cpy

    1. What are our Read Admirals doing 'tweeting'?

  14. Israel has been warned, that Hamas will start the war again as of Friday morning.

    Hamas issued a warning to Southern Israel that they will be targeted so don't return...

    Yep Hamas, Isis, Hezbollah, Iran all peas in a pod...

    Or a target rich environment..

    1. The "War" in Gaza has nothing to do with Jihad, it has everything to do with Zionism and European Colonialism

  15. .

    Everyone would love to see US jets taking out IS units. It would provide great visceral pleasure. However, we have seen the US screw-up every foreign policy initiative (especially the military ones) that we have attempted in the past decade or so.

    Air power alone won’t be enough to take out IS in Iraq. Short of boots on the ground we would require reliable partners there and that is something we lack. Were we to slow or stop the IS advance they would still control half the country. Were we to push them back they could simply fall back to Syria or Lebanon to regroup. That could lead to the US getting involved in conflicts in those countries or even Libya. There is almost metaphysical certainty that this would result in dire unforeseen consequences.

    Were we to bomb IS sites in the cities, it could lead to unacceptable collateral damage.

    Where we to use air strikes, we would be dependent on allies like the Maliki government and the Kurds. The US is trying to filter all aid through Malicki and his corrupt and sectarian government. What happens if he wins? The Kurds have demanded heavy weapons. That might help them with IS but what do they do with them once IS is defeated?

    Were we to follow IS back into Syria, we would in effect be helping the Kurd there as well as the government of Assad and the militias including radical ones like al Nusra.

    Anything we do will piss somebody off, the militants in Iraq, those in Iran, the Syrian government, the surrogate states that support the militias, etc. It is a no win situation for the US. One big clusterfuck.

    Still it is tough sitting here watching the innocents die. On the other hand, what about our potential dead?


    1. " we would require reliable partners "

      For Christ's sake, man, get your head out of your ass.

      WE are the unreliable partner.

      The Kurds have been begging for military supplies FOR MONTHS.

      " It is a no win situation for the US. "

      No it isn't and if you can't see the advantages of an independent Kurdistan you are blind.

      Our PRESIDENT is our main problem.

      Taking the troops out too soon, not arming the Kurds......not striking ISID in Syria and Iraq in the beginning.....


    2. FLASHBACK OBAMA: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'......drudge


      All that sacrifice for nothing.....

      Carpet bomb the ISID front lines in Kurdistan.

      That would at least stop the advance.

    3. Quirk's pov...

      Let them die...

      Who cares..

    4. .



      WiO, in my post I just explained to you what IMO the US could do and the limitations they would face WITHOUT putting troops on the ground. However, it sounds like you are calling for us going all in. As many have pointed out here on numerous occasions, that hasn't worked very well for the US lately.

      From Israel's recent experience in Gaza, I would have thought you would have recognized this. Over a month in Gaza, air AND troops, degrading Hamas' capabilities. But capabilities can be rebuilt and if you think Hamas is going away I suspect you are in for a rude awakening.

      We have seen what an air only campaign did in Libya.

      As for general numbnutz, I'll let you explain the facts of life to him.


    5. Quirk,

      The Gaza Strip is a just one of a few battle fields against Iran. You have to look at the entire field of vision to understand the whack a mole that Israel (and a ton of others) are fighting.

      Hamas's capabilities are not down graded enough and the 2nd round of fighting is coming. BUT in the meantime, Egypt is now attacking and destroying Hamas and the ISIS in Sinai and the tunnels (cash) that Hamas has used for both TAX revenue and resupply.

      Iran / Hezbollah / Syria were all busy killing babies and women and old men then the crazed ISIS showed up.

      Now ISIS is killing and looting and raping any Shia, Yazidis, Christian or Syrian Alawite they can get their hands on.

      China is fighting a moslem uprising, Yemen, Sudan, Libya, Mali, Morocco, Tunisia all in flames.,

      Nigeria, Liberia and more in Africa fighting the Islamists...

      Yep it's getting interesting...

      Don't forget the Russian/Ukrainian fun and while we are at it, the Russians are fighting the Chechens, the Georgians and other Islamic ethnic europeans.

      France, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Norway and Sweden? Raging Jihadists burning, raping, stealing and murdering!

      From north africans to ethnic turks (in germany) the Samuel Huntington's clash is in full swing...

      the real question? Will Chicago, newark nj, Detroit, dearborn, Minnesota with everything from hamas supporters to sudanese jihadists are fuming.... Columbus Ohio has 54000 Somalis and they say ONLY 10% are radical jihadists...

      The fuse is lit....

    6. .

      FLASHBACK OBAMA: 'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'......drudge

      FLASHBACK BUSH (MAY 1, 2003 standing on the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln under the "Mission Accomplished" sign) "In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

      Will they never learn?

      In normal circumstances someone who has sharply divided his country with inflammatory rhetoric, driven foreign policy from the much vaunted ‘zero problems’ to the current ‘zero friends’, scorned the fundamental democratic principles of separation of powers and judicial independence, crippled the media and weakened the economy should have no chance of being elected president.

      Any normal American would think that the speaker was writing of either George Bush or Barack Obama. In fact, this was taken from an article on the Levantine Musings blog and it was talking about Erdogen of Turkey.

      The entire world seems to be run buy dicks. It is only the fool who tries to pick one as better than the other.


  16. let the IDF attack ISIS and help the Yazidis. Israel is going to face them eventually. Israel needs some positive PR.

    1. .

      Too many options, Deuce. Kind of like that Monty Python Confuse a Cat skit.

      General Obumble says: Thinkin and decidin are hard. Now my head hurts. OWwwww!


    2. Deuce ☂Thu Aug 07, 08:06:00 PM EDT
      let the IDF attack ISIS and help the Yazidis. Israel is going to face them eventually. Israel needs some positive PR.

      Israel is fine. The good news? The enemies of Israel are now butchering everyone in sight including the chinese, the russians, the kurds, the christians and more... The world will now have to get off it's lazy, cowardly ass, not to save anyone else, but themselves.

      And, Hamas has told Israel and the world the war is back on...

      But? No one cares anymore about the Palestinians and their ELECTED, INSANE Islamic NAZI representatives anymore...

    3. Hmm.. as the truth comes out?

      that out of 1700 gazans dead? Over 1/2 were in fact Hamas terrorists.

      Let's see the rest of the world have that kind of KILL ratio as the war against Jihad heats up....

    4. .

      Was that from Jennifer Rubin in the JP or from the IDF?



    5. Well it wasn't the "Hamas Health Ministry" that's fur sure...

    6. The "War" in Gaza has nothing to do with Jihad, it has everything to do with Zionism and European Colonialism

  17. Hamas ultimatum: Failing a Gaza seaport, the war goes on and thousands of Israelis will die

    Hours before the 72-hour ceasefire was due to expire Friday morning, Aug. 8, the Palestinian Hamas’ military wing slapped down an ultimatum before Israel: Either allow the Gaza Strip to have an open seaport – which would be tantamount to lifting the Gaza blockade - or prepare for a long and brutal war of attrition with thousands of fatalities.
    Hamas’ decision about extending the ceasefire was tensely awaited Thursday night after Israel’s acceptance. Instead, the Palestinian Islamists declared that the war would go on unless Israel bowed to their dictates.
    Israel’s envoys had previously rejected their demand for a deep sea Gaza port in the talks taking place in Cairo under Egyptian auspices.
    Abu Obeida, spokesman of Hamas’ military wing, Ezz e-Din Al-Qassam, also announced that his movement had acquired new rockets with larger warheads than the more than 3,000 fired against the Israeli population in the month-long conflict, and they would be aimed at Israel’s Ben Gurion international airport. Israel would be severed from its air transport ties with the outside world, he said.
    “We demand our fundamental rights,” said the Hamas spokesman, in a statement that was broadcast live Thursday night. “We call on our envoys to the Cairo talks not to continue negotiations until Israel surrenders to our demand for a seaport. The war is not over until the siege of Gaza ends.”

    So now what?

    Israel will surrender to Hamas's demands?


    More likely, real war with Hamas is about to break open.

    I have a feeling that the 750 "correspondents" that have been safely reporting on a minute by minute, incoming IDF missile by incoming IDF missile from gaza, will start FLEEING to the Israeli border for safety.....

    At the same time? The question is, will Iran and Hezbollah open up the northern border with attacks. So far, in the last month, they have been just dying to hold on to damascus....

    There are more and more attacks against Hezbollah in Lebanon by the "others"...... The Shia of southern lebanon are viewed by the entire other lebanese as "outsiders" and squatters...

    IF this thing explodes? Look to massive shia population expulsion from s Lebanon INTO assad controlled syria.....

    the reshuffling of the deck is occurring from Iraq to syria, jordan and lebanon...

    Look to Gaza being next....

    1. The "War" in Gaza has nothing to do with Jihad, it has everything to do with Zionism and European Colonialism

  18. There might be other "red lines," but this one is definitely "front and center," right now.

    Irbil - Capital of Kurdistan

  19. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest addressed the emerging humanitarian crisis in a press briefing Thursday afternoon, in which he condemned ISIS for its “callous disregard for human rights.” He said the U.S. was working with the Iraqi government to support their efforts and that the administration is deeply concerned and closely monitoring the situation.

    President Barack Obama is expected to deliver a statement on Iraq at 9:30 pm from the State Dining Room in the White House.

    The U.S. has been flying fighter jets, bombers and Predator drones over Iraq for several weeks on surveillance missions, and F-16s were used to escort the humanitarian air drop operation Friday night. A senior U.S. military official told NBC News that those aircraft are also poised to launch strikes to protect U.S. assets in Erbil – which include a U.S. consulate with 30-50 State Department personnel and scores of military advisers – should ISIS militants continue their advance on the city.

  20. It looks like the IDF couldn’t make the “Operation St Louis” run after all.

    1. They couldn't talk about it if they did.

    2. I would be delighted to make a retraction if necessary.

    3. It was probably the Iraqis, though.

      Two explosions? That sounds like about what they could do.

    4. Deuce ☂Thu Aug 07, 09:50:00 PM EDT
      I would be delighted to make a retraction if necessary.

      You have no clue about what Israel does to help many nations and peoples. And quite frankly? You never will.

    5. I know it is always a secret.

    6. Only to those that do not wish to see.

    7. Those with eyes and ears know full well what the Zionist NASI have been doing in Palestine.

      Killing Jewish refugees purely for propaganda purposes, to start.

  21. The IDF was ready to go but found out that unlike the gazans the ISIS actually had weapons that could take down fighter jets and may fire back.

    The US is on the job.

    1. Never miss an opportunity to show your distaste for Israel?

      Well it proves you never miss an opportunity to show your lack of class

    2. The truth hurts the "O"rdure

  22. WASHINGTON — President Obama said Thursday he authorized "targeted air strikes" if needed to protect U.S. personnel in Iraq, as well as air drops of food and water to religious minorities in Iraq who are under siege from Islamic militants and trapped on a mountain top.

    The U.S. military made an initial air drop of meals and water to thousands of civilians threatened by militants on Thursday. The aircraft that made the drop safely exited the region, the official said.

    "Today, America is coming to help," Obama said.

    Innocent families face the prospect of "genocide," Obama said, justifying U.S, military action that could eventually include air strikes.

    The U.S. "cannot turn a blind eye," Obama said.

    The administration has been mulling options for weeks, but the issue has come to a head with a mounting humanitarian catastrophe in northern Iraq where the Yazidis, a small religious minority, are trapped on a mountain top surrounded by Islamic militants.

    The president's announcement Thursday amounts to a significant escalation of involvement in the growing Iraqi crisis, but Obama attempted to assure the American public that it would not lead to U.S. involvement in a ground war there.

    The air strikes would be used to prevent militants from reaching Irbil, the capital of the Kurdish region. Irbil is home to a U.S. Consulate and a joint U.S.-Iraqi security base.

    On Thursday, The New York Times reported, citing Kurdish sources, that airstrikes had started. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the spokesman for Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, quickly denied those reports.

    "Press reports that US has conducted airstrikes in Iraq completely false. No such action taken," Kirby said in a statement on Twitter.

    The Yazidis are a tiny religious group that were forced to flee their homes when militants attacked Sinjar in northern Iraq. The militants consider the Yazidis as apostates.

    Tens of thousands of refugees fled into the mountains, perhaps hoping to reach the Kurdish region in the north, but were trapped because of militant activity between the mountain and the Kurdish area, and are running short on food and water.

    Iraqi aircraft have attempted to airdrop supplies to the Yazidis but with limited success. Dropping supplies, particularly on a mountain top, is difficult, as packages of food and water break open on impact.

    The U.S. Air Force has extensive experience with air dropping supplies, which they regularly do in the mountains of Afghanistan with accuracy.

    Air strikes could be used to blunt the battlefield successes of the militants, which now control about one-third of Iraq's territory.

    The militants, who belong to the Islamic State, have had a string of recent successes in the north, placing pressure on the White House to act.

    On Thursday militants attacked a string of Christian villages, worsening an already desperate humanitarian crisis and dealing a blow to the Kurdish forces defending the region.

  23. Does Israel invoice on The 15th or the 30th?

    Israel’s Operation Protective Edge in Gaza cost the country’s economy some $1.44 billion, its central bank governor Karnit Flug said on Thursday. "The assessment is that it can reach up to around 0.5 percent of GDP, which is up to 5 billion shekels," Flug told Israel's Channel Ten television. Israel launched its military operation in Gaza a month ago in retaliation to Hamas rocket fire on its territory. As of Wednesday, over 1,800 Palestinians have been killed, the majority of them civilians, including hundreds of women and children, according to the UN.

    1. Does Israel invoice on The 15th or the 30th?

      When do your "statements" cross the line into "money grubbing jew" comments?

    2. As of Wednesday, over 1,800 Palestinians have been killed, the majority of them civilians, including hundreds of women and children, according to the UN.

      According to the UN? now that's reliable...

      Most likely the number of terrorists killed was about 850-900.

      I doubt the UN's veracity on such matters...

      Just ask them how many "palestinians" are refugees and the answer is 6 times the number since when it comes to this and ONLY this conflict are definitions rewritten to fit the fiction....

    3. Fiction is that the Ashkenazi are "Real" Jews

  24. The US military has reportedly attacked the ISIL militants inside Iraq amid reports that President Barack Obama was considering such attacks.

    McClatchy reported early Friday that a resident of the town of Kalak, 25 miles northwest of Irbil, told the newspaper that jet aircraft attacked ISIL positions outside Kalak.

    In a phone conversation with the paper, the resident said she had seen the aircraft and had heard the explosions, adding that because it was dark she could not see any markings on the aircraft.

    According to Kurdish television, the bombers were American.

    The Kalak resident said that her relatives near Sinjar had been told to stay away from the city and that many Sinjar residents were moving to leave the city.

    However, Pentagon spokesman Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby called reports that the US had conducted airstrikes in Iraq “completely false.”

    “No such action was taken,” he said in a message posted on Twitter.

    The New York Times reported on Thursday that US President Barack Obama is considering airstrikes in northern Iraq where thousands of people are stranded on a barren mountaintop without food or water after death threats from ISIL terrorists.

    White House press secretary Josh Earnest rejected Washington’s plans for bombing militants in Iraq, saying the US has no military solution to the ISIL threat in the country.

    "There are no American military solutions to the problems in Iraq," Earnest told reporters on Thursday. "These problems can only be solved with Iraqi political solutions.”

  25. A minuscule two per cent of respondents supported using piloted aircraft, while 20 per cent supported using drones or cruise missiles from a distance.

    “No one — Obama, (or) the U.S. military — is thrilled about deepening involvement or optimistic about Iraq’s government,” said Stephen Saideman, the Paterson Chair in International Affairs at Ottawa’s Carleton University.

    “So, very much the opposite (from Vietnam).”

    Iraq Airstrikes

  26. Iraq is a country of 36 Million.

    6.2 Million live in Iraqi Kudistan.

    And, they can't fight off, maybe, 10,000 to 20,000 guys in pickup trucks?

    I'm glad those people got some food and water, but I'm sick of a bunch of damned Iraqis.

    1. "I'm glad those people got some food and water......."

      That's good of you. Always said you had a heart as big as all Montana.

    2. They have more than pickup trucks.

    3. Deuce said they had weapons so powerful it scared the IDF away!!!!

    4. Just like the Mossad is afraid of a 'rat' that is armed.

  27. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the United Nations Security Council on Thursday called for the international community to help Iraq's government and people as the country struggles against a sweeping advance by Islamist militants.


    Japan's current account swung to a deficit in June for the first time in five months, government data showed on Friday, due to a decline in earnings on overseas investments.

    The bearish trading environment saw gold climbed back above $1,300 an ounce to stand at$1,310.80, after breaking through technical resistance overnight that could spur further gains.

  28. General Obumble says: Thinkin and decidin are hard. Now my head hurts. OWwwww!


    OWwwww, your sure pulled that one out of your arse, Quart.


    You could have done better on context, though.

  29. "Today, America is coming to help," Obama said.

    Innocent families face the prospect of "genocide," Obama said, justifying U.S, military action that could eventually include air strikes.

    The U.S. "cannot turn a blind eye," Obama said.


    Good verbal beginning.

    1. Months and months ago would have been much better timing.

  30. Walsh Quits Montana Senate Race

    The democrats in Montana have about nine days to find another candidate.

    You must have no criminal record, be able to stand up, and know how to shake hands.

    That eliminates Quart, who obtained a resident Montana fishing license.

  31. Just heard on Fox -

    The US Government has announced that the term 'Native American' is out, to be replaced by the term 'American Indian'.

    Perhaps someone back there has been reading about 'the Solutrean hypothesis'?

  32. Hamas JUST attacked Israel.

    15 minutes before the ceasefire was to be over...

    2 rockets landed in Southern Israel.....

    1. a dozen more rockets fired from hamas....

      a declared war...

    2. The Zionists started the war in 1948 with a unilateral declaration of statehood.

      The Terrorists decalared they were a country

      Those that were far away accepted the declaration, those people that were closer to the crime said ...

      NO !

      ... and still do.

    3. The "Islamic State" and "Israel" ....

      Twin Sons of the Same Father ....


  33. "The entire world seems to be run buy dicks. It is only the fool who tries to pick one as better than the other."


    So says the confused nitwit who just recently said he's in the Hillary Clinton camp for 2016 !

    You go, Quart !!

    1. buy should be spelled by, Quart.

      If you are saying goodnight, it's bye.

    2. If you like both men and women as sexual partners, you are a bi.

      All this becomes easy if you study it for a while, Quart.

  34. California wine collector jailed for 10 years for fraud

    Rudy Kurniawan, once celebrated in the world of fine wines, concocted fake rare vintages in his kitchen and sold them for tens of millions of dollars

    Quart, masquerading as Rudy Kurniawan, an Indonesian-born businessman, stiffed customers for millions selling fake collector wines he brewed up in his garage in Detroit.

    See story here:


    <<<>>>Quart posing as aka Rudy Kurniawan, 37, an Indonesian-born businessman, had been considered one of the top wine collectors in the world, becoming famed for his palate and ability to identify fine wines.

    But it emerged he had been blending the contents of cheap bottles in the kitchen of the home he shared with his mother in Detroit, Michigan.

    He then placed the blends in old quart bottles, stuck fake labels on them and claimed they were rare vintages, selling them for vast sums.

    While selling the fake wines he lived a luxury lifestyle driving drunk in expensive cars and collecting modern art.

    Many of his customers commented on how trustworthy 'Quart' seemed immediately upon a first meeting, and on what a saintly radiant face he possessed. <<<>>>

    Quart will be blogging from a Fed Med for the next 10 years.

    1. "It's just a short time out for me", Quart said on being led away in handcuffs and orange jail suit. "A much needed quiet time."

  35. August 9, 1945 -- we drop "Fat Boy" atomic bomb on Nagasaki. Far more important than Hiroshima, because Japan had already surrendered after Hiroshima, but not unconditionally. They had made 4 minor requests to the League of Nations/UN and the USA. Truman insisted on unconditional and total surrender, with no peace talks or humanitarian cease fire negotiations even for the Hiroshima prefecture.

    Nagasaki was not even one of five listed military target cities. It simply had the bad luck of a broken fuel line on one engine of the aircraft carrying the bomb and poor weather, resulting in an early release over any city available. 75,000 dead instantly, 75,000 more to die from radiation. NYPost headline will read succinctly "Jap City Evaporated". But not a single GI would be at risk for combat.

    American POWs, situated in the Mitsubishi plant in town as human shields, were at the epicenter of the bombing, necessary casualties who paid the ultimate price in a worthy cause. Herald Tribune reported: "Twelve American airmen were imprisoned at the Chugoku Military Police Headquarters located about 1,300 feet from the hypocenter of the blast. Most died instantly, although two were reported to have been executed by their captors, and two prisoners badly injured by the bombing were left next the Aioi Bridge by the Kempei Tai, where they were stoned to death."

    Truman's only comment was "we comprehend the terrible burden this weapon imposes upon us, and thank merciful God that he has supplied us with it and not our enemies". Give 'Em Hell, Harry!

    Equally important, 70 years on Germany and Japan are among our closest allies and trading partners. That is not coincidental. Nevertheless, when the new Berlin Schoenfeld airport opens, it will be the first major airport under Japanese or German control. 70 years later. Also not coincidental. Anyone in Jerusalem taking notes, class?

  36. Among the many 'Palestinians' executed by Hamas as 'collaborators' at the beginning of this week was Ayman Taha, Hamas' former spokesman.
    Meanwhile, Palestinian newspaper al-Quds reported that Hamas has executed its former spokesman Ayman Taha, who was arrested on suspicion of spying for an Arab country and financial corruption.

    According to the report, a firing squad executed Taha in Gaza on Monday.

    1. "who was arrested on suspicion of spying for an Arab country"

      Probably Egypt.

      No proof necessary, mere suspicion being sufficient.

      The financial corruption goes without saying.....

  37. I didn't know that about Nagasaki and a broken fuel line on the bomber.

    Hiroshima was chosen as it had surrounding hills to concentrate the blast, I have read.

    1. If you do not know, why mention it.

      Why not find out, then let us know?

      Your references will be checked.

    2. I know now.

      WiO is reliable.

      He is my reference.

      You are not reliable.

      You lie like hell.

      You make shit up, like that crap about Idaho.

      Go to bed now, rato, you need some mental rest time.