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Friday, August 15, 2014

Unconfirmed - Reports from Ukraine that Ukrainian Armed Forces Fired on Russian Column in the Ukraine

NATO boss says alliance observed Russian incursion into Ukraine, which Russia denies

  • Article by: Associated Press 
  • Updated: August 15, 2014 - 9:31 STAR TRIBUNE
COPENHAGEN, Denmark — NATO secretary-general Anders Fogh Rasmussen says the alliance has observed a Russian "incursion" into Ukraine, which Russia denies.
During a visit to Copenhagen on Friday, Fogh Rasmussen told reporters: "I can confirm that last night we saw an incursion (into) Ukraine." Rasmussen did not give details of the alleged incursion but said "what we have seen last night is the continuation of what we have seen for some time."
Andriy Lysenko, a spokesman for Ukraine's security council, said some Russian military vehicles had crossed the border into Ukraine. Two British journalists said they saw Russian armored personnel carriers cross the border.
Russia's Federal Security Service said Russian forces are patrolling the border area but denied that military vehicles had moved into Ukraine.


  1. The Ukraine army has "destroyed" military vehicles that crossed from Russia, according to a Ukrainian military spokesperson.

    He said Ukrainian forces had tracked Russian armoured column after it crossed the border into Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, NATO has said that Russia, while calling for de-escalation of the Ukraine conflict, had in fact been escalating it.

  2. President of Ukraine says he has spoken with UK PM Cameron.

  3. OOrah shout out to the noble IDF

    At least 59 Palestinian families suffered multiple casualties over four weeks of Israeli bombardment in Gaza, according to data collated by the Guardian. The youngest casualty was 10-day old Hala Abu Madi, who died on 2 August; the oldest was Abdel al-Masri, aged 97, who was killed on 3 August.

    The figures are based on data from three independent Palestinian human rights organisations – the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights (PCHR) and Al Mezan, both based in Gaza, and the West Bank-based Al-Haq; the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem; and the UN office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

    However, it is almost certainly an incomplete picture. Systematic identification of bodies and logging of data have been hampered by the sheer scale of the casualties in Gaza – about 2,000 killed in total, and 10,000 wounded – types of injuries, and the need for swift burial.

    Among families in which four or more people died, 479 people were killed in total, including 212 children under the age of 18, and 15 people aged 60 and over. The deadliest day was 30 July, when 95 members of 10 families were killed. On 20 July, 65 members of 10 families died, and on 21 July, 71 members of six families were killed.

    The Guardian has interviewed six families who suffered multiple casualties. In each case, relatives say there was no warning of attack, and all deny any connection with militant organisations in Gaza.

    1. Make sure to deduct the Hamas killing of several hundred kids that were tunnel diggers, the dozens killed by hamas by errant rockets and of course the hamas's executions of dozens of protesters...

  4. Killed with our money and our bombs.

    1. And how much of American money went to build those terror tunnels, rocket factories and salaries for 30,000 Hamas members on the UNRWA dole?

  5. Now this was priceless from the last thread..

    AnonymousFri Aug 15, 11:22:00 AM EDT
    Wholesale does not equal retail
    Back to ESL class, for you "O"rdure.
    AnonymousFri Aug 15, 11:23:00 AM EDT
    Again, your lack of understanding of the way the US works is evident.

    So according to Rat, a 59% RISE in wholesale prices doesn't effect retail...


    I guess Rat is a commie too...

    1. From your own link, dumbfuck:

      Prices in New England were the highest in the nation mostly because of pipeline constraints that limited the delivery of natural gas. This factor drove electricity prices in New England and New York above $200 per megawatthour (MWh) for several days this winter.

      In the Northwest, a decline in precipitation reduced hydroelectric generation and made the region more dependent on gas-fired power than in the first half of 2012. The combination of more reliance on natural gas and higher natural gas prices drove power prices 82% higher in the Northwest compared to the first half of 2012.

      The California power market also experienced a large (59%) increase in wholesale power prices. As with the rest of the nation, this increase was largely the result of higher natural gas prices. The ongoing outage of the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station (SONGS) contributed to a continued separation in power prices between the northern and southern parts of the state's electric system.

      This was Before the big surge in Solar in California.

      Wholesale Prices spiked all over the country due to a more than doubling of nat gas prices.

      The Price increase was Less in California, even with the outage of the San Onofrie Nuclear Power Plant, and the higher gas prices.

      You read English like shit, Israeli.

    2. And your comprehension of the written word sucks you drunk savage.

      "The Price increase was Less in California, even with the outage of the San Onofrie Nuclear Power Plant, and the higher gas prices."

      THE PRICE INCREASE was LESS in California.

      So there was a PRICE INCREASE…

      As I said you ignorant drunk….

      Prices went UP.

      Fucking communist

    3. Yes, Before the Solar Build-out,

      Zionist asshole.

    4. I am a zionist, I am an american. i stand with israel and i stand with america.

      call me an "israeli" all you wish, this is a complement.

      now you? are a ignorant drunk.

      your ignorance has nothing to do with your ethnic heritage. in fact, i'd suspect you get your dumb genes from the white cracker side of your family tree

  6. Our "aspiring college student" in Ferguson was a bully, and a thug. He committed a strong-arm (literally) robbery before the shooting.

    The video is all over television.

    1. Legally, it might still be murder, but if the defense is allowed to show that video there's no way any jury is going to convict.

  7. The California power market also experienced a large (59%) increase in wholesale power prices.


    1. Yes, before the Solar build-out, moron.

  8. Rufus IIFri Aug 15, 11:20:00 AM EDT
    "Self determination" your ass. What about the Palestinians' right to self determination?

    I don't see the slightest bit of difference between Zionists and Nazis.

    Really? Wow, your mind is really gone…

    1. Palestinians have and had a right to self determination. they turned down statehood what 5 times?

      Self determination is not the same as having the freedom to commit genocide against the Jews…

      Any time the palestinians want to live in peace on their "swath" of land they can. But they are not free to wage war for 66 years… If they wage war? They will get their asses kicked. However if the Palestinians WIN? Every Jew in israel will be beheaded.

      But genocide of the jews/israel is not a matter of import to rufus.

      But it is a matter of import to the jews/israel.

      SO call us names, be pissed at us, boycott us, hate us for all we care. But if you try to KILL US? EXPECT us to kill you. And no we will not apologize for self defense.

      So got back to your beer and call me "israeli" again..

      I so love that title…

      "Israeli" "Zionist"

      Maybe someday, when america goes into the toilet for real, i'd move and claim citizenship… but for now?

      I am as american as our blog's resident alcoholic - rufus.

    2. Yeah, you're a real, genuine American - even though you can't bring yourself to capitalize it.

      Fucking Scum.

    3. I just now do it to piss you off…


  9. Now, onto something important:

    A lipid panel is one of the most basic blood tests in modern medicine. Doctors use it to measure cholesterol levels in their patients, probably millions of times each year.

    This is not a procedure where some hospitals are really great at lipid panels and some are terrible. There's just not space for quality variation: you are running blood through a machine and pressing buttons. That's it.

    And that all makes it a bit baffling why, in California, a lipid panel can cost anywhere between $10 and $10,000. In either case, it is the exact same test.

    Suckers R Us

    1. What this tells us about American health care

      For one, there's not much price transparency: its really hard to know whether one hospital is charging $10 or $10,169 because prices are rarely listed. For this particular study, Hsiao literally had to hire a software engineer to collect the data and line up all the different hospitals against each other.

      The $10,169 blood test tells us we're suckers: we've developed a health care system where its hospitals have pretty full authority to name their price with little protest from . . . . . .

  10. Spain, with a GDP slightly larger than Texas, received 38% of its Electricity from Solar and Wind in July.

    And, most of it is from Wind.


  11. An interesting develoment in Russia.

    Whether or not the Ukrainians hit a Russian column of intruding APCs, the Russians want no part of it and are denying it happened.

    Either a rogue group crossed over the border and got shot up and the Russians want no part of that or someone has convinced Putin that he overplayed his hand.

    Russia gets no benefit from a cold war with the EU for no other reason that Russia in the long runs real risk of losing the East to China.

    Putin is what mostly everyone (except for George Bush of course) recognized him to be, a paranoid thug and a thief. He is using misplaced Russian nationalism to divert attention from both his larceny and delusion.

  12. Erbil, Asharq Al-Awsat—Leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and self-proclaimed caliph Abu-Bakr Al-Baghdadi fled the northern city of Mosul to return to Syrian territory after the US authorized airstrikes on ISIS positions in Iraq, a Kurdish official said.

    In comments to Asharq Al-Awsat, Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) spokesman Saeed Mamo Zinni said: “Caliph of the Islamic State Abu-Bakr Al-Baghdadi left Mosul for Syria a few days ago.”

    “According to our intelligence sources, Abu-Bakr Al-Baghdadi traveled to Syria as part of a convoy of 30 Hummer vehicles after fearing being targeted by US airstrikes,” Zinni said. He added that Kurdish Peshmerga forces have been able to kill a number of ISIS senior leaders.

    Zinni, a media official for the KDP regional office in Nineveh, went on to claim that Kurdish Peshmerga fighters had repelled an ISIS attack in the Zammar district of Diyala province.

    ISIS continued its attack on Iraqi Yazidis on Wednesday despite US airstrikes.

    An informed source in Mosul, speaking to Asharq Al-Awsat on condition of anonymity, said that . . . . .

    Interesting, if true

  13. I have yet to find any photos that show Russian armored vehicles have been destroyed inside the Ukraine.

    Videos of the contents of the so-called Russian humanitarian aid trucks look very suspicious. They are poorly packed and some less than half full.