Israel and the Palestinians
Gaza abacus
1. Population of Israel: 8.16m [Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics]
2. Population of Gaza: 1.76m [Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics]
3. GDP per person of Israel in dollars: $38,000 [Wikipedia]
4. GDP per person of Gaza in dollars: $876 [Washington Institute for Near East Studies, 2010 figure]
5. Population density of Israel, per square kilometre: 392 [CIA]
6. Population density of Gaza, per square kilometre: 4,822 [Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics]
7. Lethal radius of standard 2,000lb bomb in metres: 366 [Wikipedia]
8. Maximum ordnance payload of Israeli F-16 aircraft: 6,800kg [www.F-16.net]
9. Maximum payload of biggest rockets fired from Gaza (M302): 144kg [IDF]
10. Payload of most common Qassam missile: 9kg [IDF]
11. Number of rockets fired from Gaza into Israel from July 8th to August 5th: 3,360 [IDF]
12. Number of Israelis killed by rockets from July 8th to August 5th: 2 + one foreign national [IDF and press reports]
13. Number of Israelis killed by rockets in previous 18 months: Nil [Wikipedia]
14. Kill ratio of Palestinian rocket fire during Operation Protective Edge: 0.000953%
15. Number of rockets intercepted by Iron Dome missile defence system: 584 [IDF]
16. Number of Israeli strikes on Gaza from July 8th to August 5th: 4,762 [IDF]
17. Total Israeli deaths during Operation Protective Edge: 67 [IDF]
18. Total Palestinian deaths from July 8th to August 5th: 1,938 [Palestinian Centre for Human Rights]
19. Proportion of Gaza population killed per 1,000 people: 1
20. Proportion of Israeli population killed per 1,000 people: 0.008
21. Number of Palestinian children killed by Israeli fire: 460 [Palestinian Centre for Human Rights]
22. Total Palestinians injured: 9,567 [Ministry of Health, Gaza; UNRWA]
23. Number of Palestinian homes destroyed or seriously damaged: 10,690 [UN]
24. Number of Palestinians displaced by fighting/lost homes: 485,000 [UN]
25. Proportion of civilian to military deaths among Israelis: 4.5% [IDF]
26. Proportion of civilian to military deaths among Palestinians: 70-85% [Ministry of Health, Gaza; UN; independent NGOs]
27. Proportion of civilian to military deaths among Palestinians: 50% [Israeli government]
28. Total number of civilians in Gaza killed by Israeli fire since 2000: 5,000+ [Palestinian Centre for Human Rights]
29. Number of Americans who would have died given similar death rate: 990,000+
30. Tunnels from Gaza located and destroyed by Israeli forces: 32 [IDF]
31. Total estimated cost of building tunnels: $30m [IDF]
32. Direct cost to Israel of Operation Protective Edge: $1.7 billion [Israeli Channel 2 TV]
33. Estimated cost of restoring services and reconstruction in Gaza: $6 billion [Palestinian government minister, quoted in news reports]
33. Proportion of respondents to online poll, by Israel’s most popular TV channel on August 3rd, who say the best birthday gift for Barack Obama would be peace in the Middle East: 20% [Israeli Channel 2 TV]
34. Proportion of respondents to Israeli poll who say the best birthday gift for Barack Obama would be the Ebola virus: 48% [Israeli Channel 2 TV)
33. Proportion of respondents to online poll, by Israel’s most popular TV channel on August 3rd, who say the best birthday gift for Barack Obama would be peace in the Middle East: 20% [Israeli Channel 2 TV]
ReplyDelete34. Proportion of respondents to Israeli poll who say the best birthday gift for Barack Obama would be the Ebola virus: 48% [Israeli Channel 2 TV)
Now, let's see how the Israeli firsters spam that.
ReplyDeleteWow, you spent a lot of time on meaningless drivel.
DeleteIf you deuce, is walking down Market Street and 23 black youth, armed with ONLY box cutters attempt to rob you and you pull a nice pair of.45 1911's from your Jack as rig and off 70% of them with single shots into their heads?
Will the press scream about how unfair the 23 were treated?
The fact that you are rich, and the collective wealth of the 23 is less than you keep in ONE ROTH IRA?
Nothing to spin, but you forget the most important point.
Hamas, a forward battalion of Iran, planned, prepared and started the "war of the rockets" and apparently they were ineffective at murder.
But JUST like those 23 youths with box cutters, they committed attempted MURDER and just like Israel you would be justified in taking them out... Regardless of their success rate in murder completion.
Hamas spent a billion on rockets and a billion on tunnels that COULD have built up economic infrastructures, schools and the betterment of their people, but they chose to be a suicidal death cult.
Have a nice day.
There would not be a need for tunnels if Israel didn’t run Gaza as a penal colony. The 9kg rockets are a tribute to innovation and are the equivalent to a shank in a prison.
DeleteIf Gaza was run as a penal colony?
DeleteThe population would not have tripled in 15 years.
Nor would Israel have given all the land to the Palestinians and pulled 15,000 Jews from their homes of 40 years.
If you want a penal colony?
Then real occupation is needed, complete with trials and executions of Hamas war criminals.
But I love how you gloss over real history.
The PA got the Gaza strip, with clear title from Israel.
It was the Hamas that won it's election from the PA and then mass murdered it's PA brothers and drove off the European monitors, then of course, Egypt, which shares a common border CUT THEM OFF..
But take solace in your shank comparison.
It's a weapon, and it's intent is murder.
Just like those box cutter arabs did to America..
It's the intent.
Hamas? Is a islamic death cult, sponsored by Iran.
Like it or not?
They seek the murder of all jews and you defend them daily.
Kinda says it all....
Hamas does not seek the murder of all Jews, it wants to end the European occupation of Palestine.
DeleteThe two items cannot be conflated, because they are not related.
As far as the Palestinians are concerned.
The Palestinians and Jews coexisted for thousands of years. Until the Europeans came, declared themselves sovereign and started to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.
Regarding the Galilee, Mr. [Moshe] Sharett already told you that about 100,000 Arabs still now live in the pocket of Galilee.
Let us assume that a war breaks out.
Then we will be able to cleanse the entire area of Central Galilee, including all its refugees, in one stroke.
In this context let me mention some mediators who offered to give us the Galilee without war.
What they meant was the populated Galilee.
They didn’t offer us the empty Galilee, which we could have only by means of a war.
Therefore if a war is extended to cover the whole of Palestine, our greatest gain will be the Galilee.
It is because without any special military effort which might imperil other fronts,
only by using the troops already assigned for the task, we could accomplish our aim of cleansing the Galilee.
From a protocol of the Government of Israel,
translated from Hebrew by Israel Shahak, in "Truth or Myth about Israel? Read between Quotation Marks" by Charley Reese in The Orlando Sentinel (13 June 1999); later published as "What Israeli Historians Say About 1948 Ethnic Cleansing" in Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (September 1999)
Referring to Palestinian refugees: "We must do everything in our power to ensure that they never return."
• Address at the Mapai Political Committee (7 June 1938) as quoted in Feuerlicht, Roberta, 1983.
• From Jewish terrorism against Arabs it is a short step to Jewish terrorism against Jews.
○ "On three fronts" (3 August 1938) as quoted inRebirth and Destiny of Israel, New York: Philosophical Library, 1954, p. 91.
It was in 1940 the Zionists committed an act of Terrorism against Jews, when they bombed the "Patra" and murdered 252 Jewish refugees.
In just that one act of terrorism, the Zionist NASI killed more Jews than all of the Hamas rockets, combined.
DeleteThat is a historical reality that "O"rdure would like us to have never known.
34. Proportion of respondents to Israeli poll who say the best birthday gift for Barack Obama would be the Ebola virus: 48% [Israeli Channel 2 TV)
ReplyDeleteSounds lower than America's pov.
DeleteYou should post the same "abacus" list of the USA verses Iraq? The USA verses Afghanistan? The USA verses Panama? The USA verses the American Indian? The USA verses Libya? The USA verses Kosovo? The USA verses Haiti? The USA verses the Yugoslavia? and Let's NOT forget the USA verses Grenada!!!!!
DeleteGo for it....
LOL
...you can only imagine what the Israelis think and say about the Palestinians.
ReplyDeletethey are savages, they are a death cult, they seek the genocide by any means possible to rape, murder, dismember and torture Jews.
DeleteYep that's about it
The Palestinians notice.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the palestinians say about the Jews...
DeleteLOL
We know...
Israel has created an incubator for radical Islam.
ReplyDeleteRadical Islam started long before the re-birth of modern Israel.
DeleteSorry if you are history handicapped
Islam has been 'radical' from the git-go.
DeleteThat's why there are no or so few Jews and Christians in most Islamic lands.
The Koran has not changed, nor will it ever.
One does not have to use imagination, the Zionist NASI are upfront about their desire to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
ReplyDelete... Establish 'tent encampments...until relevant emigration destinations are determined’
'to turn Gaza into Jaffa, a flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians.'
No imagination required to KNOW that the Israelis want to produce a genocide in Palestine
Genocide?
DeleteHardly...
But glad to see you have been released from lockup..
What did they drop the charges again?
Quart was acting as his lawyer and got him released ON HIS OWN RECOGNISANCE if you can believe that.....amazing courtroom display by Quart......female Judge helped......
DeleteMeanwhile, back in Kurdistan, ISIS, the kissing cousin of Hamas is -
ReplyDeleteThe Gospel Herald reported, via Free Republic:
A prominent Christian leader of the Chaldean community unveiled the “systematic beheading of children” and other horrendous crimes committed by ISIS. He said that the Sunni extremists are committing genocide against Christians in Iraq and with the aim to instill the Sharia Law as the law of the land.
In the interview with CNN’s Jonathan Mann, Chaldean-American businessman Mark Arabo said that the “world hasn’t seen an evil like this for generations.”
“There is a park in Mosul, where [ISIS] they actually beheaded children and put their heads on a stick and have them in the park,” he explained. “More children are getting beheaded, mothers are getting raped and killed, and fathers are being hung.”
Speaking from San Diego over Skype, Arabo called for the international community to offer asylum to the more than 300,000 Christians fleeing and living in neighboring cities.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/chaldean-christian-leader-isis-is-beheading-children-in-iraq-video/
For the first time in my life, I am almost a little proud of President Obama for dropping some bombs on ISIS.
ReplyDeleteWill a Democratic candidate for Senate in Montana please stand up?
ReplyDeleteposted at 10:01 am on August 8, 2014 by Ed Morrissy
Theoretically, Senator John Walsh’s withdrawal from the 2014 election left the Democrats enough time to find another candidate to put on the ballot. They have until August 20th to nominate a candidate, so Montana Democrats don’t have to find a judge to allow a Torricelli Switch. With less than 90 days to go, however, no one seems to want the job, including the one man who would have given them the best opportunity to remain competitive:
Former Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer says he won’t run for U.S. Senate after Sen. John Walsh dropped his election campaign Thursday. …
Schweitzer announced that he wouldn’t run on Twitter and confirmed it to The Associated Press. He said in a Facebook post that he was flattered his name was considered, and that he’ll support whoever emerges as the candidate.
Earlier Thursday, Walsh said in a statement to supporters that he is leaving the race but will keep the seat he was appointed to until his term ends in January 2015.
This was Schweitzer’s second demurral. He had an opportunity to run for this seat long before Walsh got appointed to fill out the remainder of Max Baucus’ term and get a leg up on the midterms. Schweitzer passed at the time, as most presumed he wanted to run a populist campaign for President. Then came his “gaydar” comment about Eric Cantor and a few other impolitic bon mots, and now Schweitzer apparently just wants some obscurity for a while.
While Democrats in other parts of the country may breathe a sigh of relief for avoiding the burden of Schweitzer’s comments, their brethren in Montana have to lament losing their best shot at offering a competitive challenge to Steve Daines, who was favored to beat Walsh even before the plagiarism scandal. After Plan B collapsed, so did Plans C, D, and E, according to Rebecca Berg at the Washington Examiner:
The candidate will need to launch a campaign with only three months until Election Day, for a Senate seat most Democrats have given up on winning. “I think it’s accepted as a lost cause at this point,” said one Democratic strategist with ties to Montana.
These Democrats have said they won’t run, but at least some people in their party are floating the idea in one last effort to keep the Senate seat in play[.]
Berg goes down the speculative list that emerged when Walsh suspended his campaign earlier this week. EMILY’s List President Stephanie Schriock declined yesterday, while former NARAL president Nancy Keenan hasn’t commented. Keenan just came back to Montana after 13 years in Washington, though, and even while Allahpundit is correct in that the anti-abortion impulse may not be as strong in Montana, neither is NARAL’s abortion-on-demand-at-any-point absolutism, either. Berg notes two names not on Politico’s list, former legislators Carol and Pat Williams, who are also married to each other — and both of whom declined to jump in. The only name left besides Keenan is John Bohlinger, who couldn’t get to 25% in the Democratic primary this year.
At some point, Democrats have to give strong consideration to conceding the seat to Daines. He’s going to win it anyway, and putting up a candidate without any name power in Montana will force them to spend money on the race to maintain their credibility. Why waste the resources, especially for either a Democrat who lost by 50 points in his own party’s primary or for an all-but-carpetbagging abortion absolutist in a red state? Just tossing anyone up against Daines would have a strong whiff of desperation that might infect the rest of their races in Montana — especially if the nominee has to jump belatedly into a campaign and falls flat on his/her face. Schweitzer was their best opportunity to maintain the façade of credibility, even with the “gaydar” comments. They should take a hint from his withdrawal and cut their losses.
CNN’s panel notes that there wasn’t a rush to get in the race after Walsh’s exit:
That should tell them something, too.
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/08/will-a-democratic-candidate-for-senate-in-montana-please-stand-up/
DeleteDemocrats in Montana are said to be running ads in the "Help Wanted" sections of all the major newspapers.
Quart would be a logical choice but he's in jail for fraudulently fleecing people over faux fine wines.
Dang, would have been a great career move for The Quart, too.
Can you imagine what a wonderful Senator on the take Quart would make?
World class stuff....
<<<>>>Military officials are already indicating that strikes in Iraq could be far broader than what the president described. “One senior administration official suggested that could include strikes on militants that have captured Iraq’s largest dam near Mosul,” a Wall Street Journal report read. <<<>>>
ReplyDeleteHope the bombs are well placed and we don't blow the dam up ourselves.....
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/08/top-advisors-predict-a-long-very-long-campaign/
Why can’t Islamic State be stopped? Analysts say it’s better armed, better organized
ReplyDeleteBy Nancy A. Youssef
McClatchy Washington BureauAugust 7, 2014 Updated 14 hours ago
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Mideast Islamic State
Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2014 - a photo which has been verified and is consistent with other AP reporting, shows fighters from the al-Qaida linked Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) marching in Raqqa, Syria.
UNCREDITED — AP
WASHINGTON — The Islamic State’s push toward the Kurdish city of Irbil on Thursday came as unwelcome news to those who’d believed that the Kurdish peshmerga militia would be the force most capable of halting the militant Islamists’ momentum.
The United States had such confidence in the Kurds that, in June, it moved its Joint Operation Center and some embassy staff to Irbil, where roughly 40 U.S. military advisers are now stationed.
Until this week, life in Irbil has been relatively normal despite the Islamic State offensive, which began with the fall of Mosul, Iraq’s second largest city, in early June. Everyone assumed that the Islamic State was shying away from confronting the peshmerga, with its substantial reputation as a fighting force.
But then the Islamic State moved against cities last week that were defended by the peshmerga, and the peshmerga retreated. On Thursday, the Islamic State captured at least four towns on the highway to Irbil and defeated peshmerga forces attempting to break its siege of the Mosul Dam. A near panic took hold in the Kurdish capital as militia forces rushed to set up a defensive line at Kalak, 25 miles northwest of Irbil.
It was another victory for the Islamic State, which before the peshmerga had defeated Syrian forces throughout much of eastern Syria, including recent seizures of major Syrian bases in Raqqa and Deir el Zour, and had sent Iraqi army forces fleeing almost to the gates of Baghdad.
DeleteWhat has made the Islamic State forces seemingly unstoppable?
Observers on the ground and analysts in Washington believe that the latest push was possible because the peshmerga forces are stretched trying to defend a frontier with the Islamic State that is nearly 900 miles long. The Islamic State is also better equipped, with U.S.-supplied weapons that its forces have looted from every Iraqi military based it has seized. It also has recently captured major Syrian arsenals.
On Twitter, the Islamic State often posts photos of its bounty from military bases, which include rocket-propelled-grenade launchers, artillery and weapons that are far more sophisticated than those in the peshmerga arsenal.
The Islamic State also has the advantage of momentum. According to the Long Wars Journal, citing a tweet by the Islamic State, its forces have taken control of 17 communities in the area around Mosul. Its push stretches all the way to Diyala province in northeast Iraq, which borders Iran. On Thursday, the Islamic State claimed to control the Mosul Dam, the largest water supply source in Iraq _ a claim U.S. and Iraqi sources confirmed.
And perhaps most importantly, the Islamic State has very simply put together a smarter offensive plan. Its push toward Irbil is believed by many not to be a move to take that city but to force the peshmerga to defend its capital, allowing the Islamic State to harden its grip on places nearby it’s more interesting in holding.
“No one is doing what ISIS is doing,” said Jessica Lewis, a research director at the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War, using an acronym for the Islamic State derived from its previous name, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. “ISIS thins out and strategically targets their adversaries. They are more thoughtful about their offense.”
In Sunni-dominated Iraqi cities like Mosul and Fallujah, the Islamic State successfully co-opted or intimidated residents, allowing its forces to move in and take over. In Kurdish-defended areas, it’s forced the peshmerga to defend multiple locations along the lengthy frontier.
The Kurds have made no secret of their limitations. They have repeatedly asked the United States for help.
Many analysts believe that the Islamic State’s current push in northern Iraq, seizing cities such as Sinjar and Bartella that lie east of Mosul, is intended to create a buffer between the Kurdish region and the self-declared Islamic caliphate. For the Islamic State, cities like Sinjar potentially form the outer border of a contiguous state.
“They are trying to carve out the territorial integrity of their Islamic State,” Lewis said.
Against this backdrop, Kurdish Regional Government President Masoud Barzani reportedly issued a statement this week, condemning the Islamic State for attacking Christians, thousands of whom fled to the Kurdish region.
Lewis said there was another reason to doubt that the Islamic State wants to seize Irbil. Unlike Mosul, where the Islamic State had operated for years and had built a support network, Irbil is a Kurdish city of 1.5 million people committed to keeping the Islamic State out. Moreover, Irbil does not border the proposed Islamic caliphate.
Rather, Lewis believes the Islamic State wants to lock peshmerga forces into defending the capital, which would leave other places that it seeks to control vulnerable. It allows the Islamic State to decide the terms of battle _ something it has been able to do since early June.
“ISIS is maintaining the initiative,” she said.
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Obama has authorized bombing missions in Support of the Kurds that are trying to "break the siege at Sinjar Mountain."
ReplyDeleteBetween the lines: We will bomb in support of the Kurds.
DeleteFurther between the lines: No bombing for Iraqi forces until Maliki's gone.
DeleteAt least one C-130 has landed in Kurdistan, carrying Military Supplies.
DeleteI wish I was as sold on the Kurds as some, here, seem to be; but I'm not.
We'll see.
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DeleteAll the bombing can do is provide a little time and space in order to dull the IS forward movement. The Kurds are asking for heavy weapons. That might help them fend off IS for a while but what would it mean for Iraq once this particular crisis is over?
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I don't think the Turks would be too thrilled with Kurd's toting more heavy weapons.
DeleteThe Turks and some other ME countries are going to have to accept what they once thought was unacceptable or end up with the unthinkable.
DeleteAny thing interesting comments from the Meocon shit birds? I am sure they have a solution.
ReplyDeleteNeocon
ReplyDeleteMore, more, more, bomb, bomb, bomb, faster, faster, faster
DeleteSaw a headline: second set of bombs
Deletehaven't seen any particulars
One drone attack, and 4 FA-18's dropping 8 laser-guided bombs on a convoy.
DeleteYou should post the same "abacus" list of the USA verses Iraq? The USA verses Afghanistan? The USA verses Panama? The USA verses the American Indian? The USA verses Libya? The USA verses Kosovo? The USA verses Haiti? The USA verses the Yugoslavia? and Let's NOT forget the USA verses Grenada!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGo for it....
LOL
You do state the Israeli-firster case with conviction.
ReplyDeleteI do state the concept that one standard for Israel and no standards for America is in fact anti-Semitic, but since you seem so sensitive when I use that label, I just figure I'd hold a mirror up to your "abacus" times 9 to show how idiotic and nonsensical your point was...
DeleteMore Kryptonite.
ReplyDeleteIf I criticize the US, which I have and do, that does not make me anti-American. You are an unabashed, Israeli-Firsters, an Israeli patriot and Israel nationalist. I am instinctively suspicious of such ardent fervor. I dislike religious fervor as well as anyone who believes that their tribe has some historic mission and privilege given them by the infantile belief that there is some spirit overlooking and guiding them.
ReplyDeleteThis is my position:
“Patriotism is as fierce as a fever, pitiless as the grave, blind as a stone, and irrational as a headless hen”
Ambrose Bierce
ReplyDeleteDo you have any favorite authors "not named Ambrose?"
Delete:)
LOL
ReplyDeleteYou have to admit that quote is marvelous!
ReplyDeleteYep. I especially liked the "headless hen," part.
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