EGYPT PARTICIPATES WITH ISRAEL IN THE SHUT DOWN OF GAZA:
THIS WAS TRUE FIVE YEARS AGO AND TRUE TODAY:
THE GATES TO THE EGYPTIAN AND ISRAELI ENFORCED PRISON CAMP OF GAZA:
Israel's Gaza invasion is all about tunnels
Updated by Zack Beauchamp on July 17, 2014, 9:10 p.m. ET @zackbeauchamp zack@vox.com
Israel launched a ground invasion of Gaza on Thursday, which it says is to destroy tunnels Hamas has dug out of the Gaza Strip into Israel. Hamas doesn't just use tunnels for launching attacks against Israel, as it apparently did with the tunnel into Israel that sparked this invasion; it depends on tunnels for resupplying itself. Because of an Israeli blockade, tunnels into Israel and Egypt are the only way to move in people and supplies. But Israel hasn't previously been able to stamp out the underground passages.
So this fact, according to a March report by the Agence France-Presse, might be critical to understanding what Israel is doing: the Egyptian military said at the time that it had destroyed 1,370 tunnels that connected Gaza to Egypt.
Egypt's military government is hostile toward Hamas. In July of last year, General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi's junta seized power from the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, a group that has close ties with Hamas and briefly held power in Egypt. Hamas was founded as the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood. The Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood's rise to political power was very recent and temporary; repressing it was consistent with 50 years of Egyptian military rulers' policy.
The Egyptian crackdown on the Gaza tunnels was really severe. Reuters estimated just eight days before the Egyptian announcement that there were 1,200 tunnels out of Gaza in total. So Egypt closing 1,370 tunnels is a very serious blow. Egypt also tightly restricts movement through the only major above-ground crossing that isn't Israeli-controlled, in Rafah.
That might help explain why Israel is escalating against Hamas right now. While Israel's stated tactical goal, per the prime minister's office, is to destroy "terror tunnels constructed in Gaza leading into Israeli territory," its strategic objective is to "significantly [harm] the infrastructure of Hamas." That could mean destroying any remaining supply tunnels that Egypt missed, as a senior Israeli defense forces official hinted at before the incursion. It could also mean striking Hamas at a moment when it is particularly unable to re-supply itself. Were Israel to destroy Hamas' capacity to supply itself sustainably, the group would be in a dire position.
Israel's blockade restricts the flow of weapons and military materiel into Gaza. Hamas's short-range rockets are homemade; it largely gets longer range rockets from Iran through tunnels.
But the same restrictions also seriously hurt Gaza civilians. Civilians have a hard time accessing basic supplies, like medicines and construction material. The Gaza economy is stifled, and unemployment is estimated to be over 40 percent. The tunnels are the means Gazan civilians have to deal with it. Between Israel and Egypt, they may be in rough shape.
Hint...
ReplyDeleteBULLSHIT.
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DeleteWho is Hams?
ReplyDeleteWhy did they divert billions of dollars in concrete from sewage, roads, building for the people to construct North Korean type command and control bunkers under schools, hospitals and mosques that also were rocket storehouses?
TO kill Jews of course...
"Hamas"
DeleteGoals of the HAMAS:
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'The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian
movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is
Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of
Palestine.' (Article 6)
On the Destruction of Israel:
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'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)
The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:
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'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]
consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one
can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'
(Article 11)
'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the
Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem
wherever he may be.' (Article 13)
The Call to Jihad:
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'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the
individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,
it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)
'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses
everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the
call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will
reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is
achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)
Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:
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'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of
the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than
a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of
Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by
Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a
waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
17 armed Hamas solders kill, one Israeli solder killed.
ReplyDeletePrison camp? Hardly, but I here tell there is a new POW prison camp being constructed in the Negev...
ReplyDeleteThat can hold up to 14,000 Hamas members...
Should be interesting, they will not get cable, they will not get higher education classes, they will not get high rises and private swimming pools, they will not be able to collect millions of dollars... It will be a prison camp.
Yep, Hamas is a terror group, as defined by our nation. Defined as such by the EU & the UN and Israel.
Stop making excuses for it, it only makes you look small
The same indignant American Jews that fought through the US legal tunnels to get into the Protestant country clubs is in smug denial about the Palestinians having to tunnel into and out of Gaza Max to bring in fuel and toothpaste.
ReplyDeleteDeuce? really?
DeleteI call bullshit.
Gaza is what it is because of Hamas, a violent, radical Islamist offshoot of the moslem brotherhood.
Why not try honesty for a change.
Your arguments are nonsense.
The tunnels? (2 types)
The tunnels that went under the egyptian border? EGYPTIAN BORDER????????
Was and is not under Israel's control. There were border crossings, that opened to Egypt, for people and material, but HAMAS shot them up and CHASED the European Inspects fleeing for their LIVES....
Now those tunnels are about MONEY and Hamas used the tunnels to make their cash.
As for the other tunnels? the military ones? that criss cross the strip? Hold metal shops, command and control centers, weapons and munition dumps and transit ways....
They are a military instillation.
The KFC smugglers of Gaza
DeletePeople are paying a fortune to have fast-food chicken brought in from Egypt in underground tunnels. But local food-stall owners aren't happy about it
Gaza is not always what people think. You want a lion? An Egyptian bride in a wedding dress? Viagra? An SUV, a double-door fridge freezer that dispenses perfect ice cubes, cigarettes, guns, Belgian chocolate? No problem. Now, as well as the above, the black market tunnels between Gaza and Egypt are bringing KFC deliveries, although the door-to-door service of around four hours makes it possibly the slowest fast-food around.
The service, according to the New York Times, requires first placing an international telephone order, making a payment by wire transfer, an Egyptian taxi driver to pick up the food from a franchise in El-Arish in the Sinai, couriers to bring it through the half-mile tunnels, a Gazan taxi driver to deliver it from the southern Gaza border to the northern Gaza office of the entrepreneur behind the scheme, and a fleet of motorbikes to take the chicken and chips – by now, presumably cold and limp – to their final destination.
And it doesn't come cheap: a bucket of 12 pieces of chicken plus chips costs around $27. Enough people in Gaza appear to think it's worth the cost and the wait to make Khalil Efrangi's venture a cautious success. In recent weeks he has delivered around 100 meals (orders are restricted to chicken, chips, coleslaw and apple pie), making a $6 profit on each.
But another Palestinian businessman, who owns some KFC and Pizza Hut franchises in the West Bank, is planning to open a restaurant within the walls and fences that surround the Gaza Strip, and a second application has been made for a KFC franchise in the tiny and crowded coastal territory.
Back to the tunnels. In their heyday, Rafah, a town butting up against Gaza's border with Egypt, was the wild west of Palestine, with hundreds of underground passages snaking below the frontier, up to 50,000 Palestinians employed in construction and smuggling, and vast fortunes being made by black marketeers. "Just give me a shopping list of anything – literally anything – you want, and it will be here in two days," one tunnel owner told me a few years back. Nearly all of the animals at Gaza's South Forest zoo, including hyenas, wolves, ostriches, chimpanzees and its prize lion, came though the tunnels. Two months ago, 17-year-old Egyptian bride Manal Abu Shanar, veiled and dressed in flowing white, made the subterranean journey to her wedding in Gaza.
DeleteBut the easing of the Israeli blockade since 2010 and an offensive against the tunnels by the Egyptian army – blowing them up – have had an impact. "The really good times are over," one smuggler told me last year. "But we'll find something else."
What prison in the world allows it's inmates to have 10,000 rockets?
Delete'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
ReplyDeletekill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
'The enemies have been scheming for a long time ... and have
accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With their money,
they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred
revolutions in various parts of the globe... They stood behind the
French Revolution, the Communist Revolution and most of the
revolutions we hear about... With their money they formed secret
organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions -
which are spreading around the world, in order to destroy societies
and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I ...
and formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the
world. They were behind World War II, through which they made huge
financial gains... There is no war going on anywhere without them
having their finger in it.' (Article 22)
'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine, they will covet
expansion from the Nile to the Euphrates River. When they have
finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand, they
will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been laid out
in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32)
'The HAMAS regards itself the spearhead and the vanguard of the
circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups all over
the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best equipped
for their future role in the fight against the warmongering Jews.'
(Article 32)
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Deuce, these are the people you defend?
DeleteIn the seventies, after Israel had won a few too many wars, Henry Kissinger, suggested that it lose a war to gain the sympathy of the world. But Israel can't afford to lose even once.
ReplyDeleteThis is the same Kissinger who fucked over American troops and the Vietnamese.
DeleteGlad to see you, Miss T.
DeleteAccepting the thesis that Gaza is a prison camp for a moment, here's the reason -
ReplyDeleteJuly 18, 2014
Hamas is Guilty of Crimes Against Humanity
By Michael Curtis
In an interview on Palestinian TV on July 14, 2014, Mahmoud Abbas, President of the Palestinian Authority, addressed a question to Hamas. “What” he asked “are you trying to achieve by sending rockets (against Israel)? We prefer to fight with wisdom and politics.” Even if his second statement is dubious, his question was answered by Hamas which parenthetically refers to him as a “criminal” and speaks of him, in what must come as a surprise to Benjamin Netanyahu as a “member of Likud.”
The simple answer of Hamas is that it is trying to kill as many Jews as possible and to eliminate the State of Israel. It proclaims, in a bizarre mixed metaphor, it will “raze Israel to the ground, exterminate the cockroach’s nest, and banish all the Zionists.” It is a call for genocide.
On any rational view Hamas should be otherwise engaged. In 2005 Israel withdrew all the 21 settlements with their 9,000 settlers from the Gaza Strip, and also all synagogues. The sensible thing would have been the promotion of the Gaza beachfront on the lines of Tel Aviv. Instead, the Strip became the site for housing and then firing rockets. Since Hamas took power in 2007 it has launched more than 5,000 rockets against Israeli civilians. Even the most “evenhanded” observers must find this “disproportionate.”
The barrage of rockets launched against Israeli civilians in July 2014 must also be regarded as “disproportionate.” A commentary on Hamas aggression has come from an unexpected and improbable source, Ibrahim Khreiseh, PLO Ambassador to the UN Human Rights Council. He declared that the Hamas missiles “now being launched against Israel -- each and every missile constitutes a crime against humanity, because it is directed at civilian targets.”
In spite of the rhetoric and actions of Hamas, many in the “international community” persist in a stance of moral equivalence holding Israel and Hamas equally to blame for the fighting. Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu explained the asymmetrical behavior, “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/hamas_is_guilty_of_crimes_against_humanity.html
People that are guilty of crimes against humanity should be in prison.
Great article.
Apart from its uncontrollable hatred of Jews, it is difficult to explain the belligerent aggressiveness of Hamas at this point. Many of the countries in the Arab world are in turmoil and cannot approve or support Hamas aggression. Hamas, and indeed all Palestinians, should recognize that their issue of self-determination or statehood is no longer central, even rhetorically, to the Arab agenda.
DeleteThe Arab countries are in general preoccupied with their own problems, their local interests -- feuding tribal clans, bitter confessional rivalries, and resistance to Islamist fanaticism. More specifically, four of them, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, and Syria, are in a condition of chaos, and can barely be called “states.” The terrorist group Hizb’allah dominates Lebanon. This makes the official government unimportant, and the condition of Christians perilous. The brutal civil war in Syria has led to 200,000 deaths and millions uprooted, causing a refugee problem affecting Lebanon and Jordan.
By contrast, Israel, though it has its own internal problems, is a stable, modern state. It is now obvious that Israel is the only state established after World War I that is connected historically with a people and with a land.
Jewish occupation of the land has been traced back to at least the 12th century BC., eighteen centuries earlier than the arrival of Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula. After the end of the Israeli Kingdom, the land was occupied by a number of different ruler but some part of the indigenous Jewish population remained. After World War I the land was transferred from Ottoman Empire to the control of the Allied Powers.
DeleteThe map of the Middle East was redrawn, delineating the boundaries of new states, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen. However, the inherent problem since then is that the boundaries did not reflect the demographic and religious reality on the ground.
The existing Arab states are artificial creations and have little relation to any particular people. Iraq became an independent country in 1932, Syria and Lebanon in 1943, and TransJordan in 1946. They do not resemble modern nation-states. This is not to deny the Arab contribution to world culture in the past, in subjects as well as their control of territory. Arabs were once important in mathematics, medicine, astronomy, and architecture, Cities such as Cordoba, Baghdad, Damascus, and Cairo were metropolises of creativity, with relative tolerance of minority groups.
The decline of the Arab world, apart from the oil-rich states, since then has been difficult to explain in any simple way. Various factors are relevant: economic and social disparities, inferior position of women, high birthrate, displaced peasants, high unemployment, patriarchal culture in deference to elders, poor education, illiteracy, colonial intervention favoring Westernization, and the understated reality that Islam has handicapped any process of modernization.
Arab history has been a continuing series of brutal dictatorships, undemocratic autocracies, religious persecution, confessional tensions, and wars. The truth, now universally understood, is that the post World War I Arab states have not made a success of nation-building, nor do they have acceptable boundaries. They remain challenged by internal rivalries. The border between Syria and Iraq has not really existed since 2012, nor has the Syrian-Lebanese frontier.
DeleteThree important changes have occurred. The Kurds have reasserted their demand for an independent state, now virtually in existence in northern Iraq. A second is that the Christian presence is being eliminated: in 1914 Christians in the Middle East numbered about 20 per cent; they now account for about 5 per cent. The third, the forerunner of danger to come, is the establishment of an Islamic state.
That state extends from eastern Syria to western Iraq and aims to expand in the future to include, as a minimum, the areas of Palestine-Israel. The terrorist group ISIS declared the area it controlled, the province of Anbar and Fallouja, a caliphate, to be called State of the Islamic Caliphate, and its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the self-proclaimed Commander of the Faithful, the leader of all Muslims, the successor to the Prophet. However it is doubtful that his claim will be accepted by other Muslims, especially by the rival terrorist group al Qaida and its affiliates such as AQAP in the Arabian Peninsula. But the new state is now a major center for Islamist jihadists.
Hamas appears to be unaware of the dramatic changes in the Arab world, and even of the virulent Islamist extremism. The Western world is aware of these developments and is now even more aware of the relentless aggression of Hamas. The Obama Administration should follow the advice of the PLO delegate in Geneva and call for action against Hamas, guilty of criminal behavior.
Michael Curtis is author of Jews, Antisemitism, and the Middle East.
The majority of the Palestinan people of gaza voted for Hamas, they are stupid but not criminals.
DeleteIsrael would LOVE to see Gaza thrive, with a government that had it's people's best interest at heart.
The only solution?
Remove the Islamist terror group that controls Gaza, then either occupy it and set up a government (just as America did in Germany or Japan) or most likely, Put the PA back in charge with international monitors to scrub the education system of hatred and incitement. (as Oslo assured us)
If you want the Palestinians to be free and have Justice? Then the islamic Nazis cannot be their leaders.
It's a choice.
Choose LIFE or Choose Death.
So far the entire Arab world, and an ever growing amount of the Islamic world is choosing death.
That is why Islamic nation after nation is dying.
Look to Iraq, iran, sudan, yemen, tunsia, libya, lebanon,egypt, jordan and more...
Deletethere is no freedom, no justice. Just armed militias and thugs.
Gaza should or could be put under Egyptian stewardship as well... Make it part of Egypt, formally and give Gaza "statehood"
National security, tariffs, power, water, etc could be given to Egypt to run, until a stable, democratic, respectful of minorities and non-moslems government could be trained and running.
Or let the people of Gaza choose the Hamas or ISIS and they will suffer the consequences of their choices..
Egypt doesn't seem to want all that trouble.
DeleteYea, Egypt used to get all worked up about the poor Palestinians, until they began to suffer the same abuse as everyother Arab/Muslim that has attempted to help them. The Palestinians have been forceably removed from most Muslim countries, e.g. 1970, Jordan and 1991, Kuwait. They are murderous parasites.
ReplyDeleteIf the Palestinians did not send over suicide bombers they could have all the toothpaste they want. Between 2000-2009, 10,000 Israel civilians were either killed or maimed by Palestinians. Fuck them!
You keep eating this bullshit and you are going to die a maniac.
I had forgotten about Kuwait.
DeleteI'm pretty sure that if I were born a Palestinian, my kids and I would be members of Hamas. Card carrying, rocket toting members of Hamas. I don't see what the choice would be.
ReplyDeleteIn the US, they were called Minutemen. They did not play by the King’s rules.
DeleteI could see my children, and grandchildren, grow up in filth, and squalor, treated like beaten, mangy dogs, or I could die trying to get free. I know which I would choose.
DeleteLive free or die mutherfucker
DeleteWatch who you're calling "mutherfucker," mutherfucker. :)
DeleteRufus IIFri Jul 18, 09:03:00 AM EDT
DeleteI'm pretty sure that if I were born a Palestinian, my kids and I would be members of Hamas. Card carrying, rocket toting members of Hamas. I don't see what the choice would be.
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Rufus, you are full of shit.
AMerica has treated the indians far worse than any Israeli every treated a Palestinian.
American waged a genocidal war on indian.
Israel has not.
If there are any palestinians growing up in filth? It's the fault of the leadership for either stealing the resources or misdirecting them.
You really don't have a clue about the subject.
Are there instances of abuse by the IDF? Sure, and they are arrested and prosecuted JUST like the American armed forces.
But to say that the Palestinians are "treated like beaten, mangy dogs" is nonsense.
Do you know that even during the recent war in gaza Israel still accepted Gazans into their hospitals? (but hamas closed the border crossing)
Maybe you should stop sniffing the glue of propaganda and take a trip? Go to Ramallah, go to Tel Aviv...
Learn something
"Go to Ramallah."
DeleteYou're delusional.
If you knew anything about the United States you would know that your "Indian" analogy doesn't work.
I don't mind telling you this, because you're an unlikeable prick, and I don't mind making you feel bad; so, here goes:
Your Israel deal isn't going to make it. Like a little leaky boat on the big, wide ocean, you will eventually run into that storm with waves that are just too tall, and too prolonged. Or, that one huge "Rogue" wave. In whichever case, that vessel isn't going to weather the voyage. Sorry for the good people, there. For those like yourself, not so much.
You're delusional.
DeleteIf you knew anything about the United States you would know that your "Indian" analogy doesn't work.
Ok, then the Indians of America were treated fairly and never got screwed by the whiteman..
Rufus: I don't mind telling you this, because you're an unlikeable prick, and I don't mind making you feel bad; so, here goes:
DeleteDont spare me either way, I am only an unlikeable prick to those drunks, frauds and mindless anti-semites that are too stupid to stop living in their own fecal matter, like you....
Rufus: Your Israel deal isn't going to make it. Like a little leaky boat on the big, wide ocean, you will eventually run into that storm with waves that are just too tall, and too prolonged. Or, that one huge "Rogue" wave. In whichever case, that vessel isn't going to weather the voyage. Sorry for the good people, there. For those like yourself, not so much.
Thanks for your care. But a news flash, we have run into waves for the last 3400 years like nothing you have a clue about. Now your "people"? Will fade from the memory of the world, as have many others, But Israel? Regardless of borders or national identity, many have tried to "erase" us and all have failed. You just are either too stupid to learn history or too drunk...
But thanks for your predictions about the fate of Israel.
I'll just file that when I take my next crap and flush it down the toilet.
BTW, you know when you wipe your ass and there's a brown streak of turd smeared on the toilet paper? That's called doing a "rufus" now...
SO you and your wonderful opinion, is like a turd smear.... worthless...
ReplyDeleteSand concludes that today’s Muslim and Christian Palestinians are actually the true progeny of the original Jews.
Gaza, a concentration camp, a ghetto.
ReplyDeleteThe facts speak for themselves.
After all of the past protestations to the contrary, the NASI are finally admitting it.
If that were only true, Jack, then the final solution would be at hand, not the ever increasing population of 1/2 of the strip being under the age of 15...
DeleteThere has been a whole lot of palestinian reproducing in this "concentration camp" to the point that the population as tripled in 20 years...
I guess the Israelis are failures at genocide...
As for a "ghetto"?
You just don't have a clue..
JackAss, the blog official Hamas and Iran's supporter, a traitor to the USA.
You've never even been in the US.
DeleteLOL
DeleteI am in Ohio, as you so often used to tell us...
But the good news?
Ohio LOVES it's citizens to be concealed carry so don't come looking for me to try to kill me, I might have to defend myself...
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ReplyDeleteOn more important news, 'They are not your father's comic books anymore - redux'.
Whoopi Goldberg is all atwitter as Marvel announces that starting in October the new Thor will be a woman.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/07/15/marvel-comics-announces-new-female-thor
As Andre might say, "Mon Dieu, Blackhawk". Or as Robin was heard to say, "Holy batshit, Batman".
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In the end, when all is said and done, it is Israel that has the upper hand. This is not because of its economic or military supremacy, which are effectively neutralized as a deterrent by Hamas’s sheer willingness to suffer, and to have fellow Palestinians suffer alongside it. Nor is it because Israel has been particularly effective in fighting the global public-relations fight so critical to the conduct of this sort of war. It isn’t even because of Israelis’ measurable and remarkable psychological resilience in the face of indiscriminate rocket fire.
ReplyDeleteRather, Israel’s supreme advantage in this war lies in the enemy’s own misunderstanding. The entire edifice of Hamas as an organization, together with its affiliates, allies and ideological fellow travelers, is built to fight a particular kind of war with a very specific sort of enemy. The tragic and ongoing catastrophe that is Gaza will not be healed until the Palestinian national movement starts seeing Israelis for what they are, a flawed but rooted people living in its home, rather than what the Palestinians wish they were, sunburned Frenchmen in a land not their own.
Read more: The tragic self-delusion behind the Hamas war | The Times of Israel http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-tragic-self-delusion-behind-the-hamas-war/#ixzz37pM1Zifl
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Far too sensible and logical for serious consideration.
DeleteRegardless of anything...
Deletehamas is committed to the murder of every Jew.
Israel is not committed to the murder of anyone other than those committed to the murder of Jews..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-moral-clarity-in-gaza/2014/07/17/0adabe0c-0de4-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html
ReplyDeleteIsrael accepts an Egyptian-proposed Gaza cease-fire; Hamas keeps firing. Hamas deliberately aims rockets at civilians; Israel painstakingly tries to avoid them, actually telephoning civilians in the area and dropping warning charges, so-called roof knocking.
“Here’s the difference between us,” explains the Israeli prime minister. “We’re using missile defense to protect our civilians, and they’re using their civilians to protect their missiles.”
Rarely does international politics present a moment of such moral clarity. Yet we routinely hear this Israel-Gaza fighting described as a morally equivalent “cycle of violence.” This is absurd. What possible interest can Israel have in cross-border fighting? Everyone knows Hamas set off this mini-war. And everyone knows the proudly self-declared raison d’etre of Hamas: the eradication of Israel and its Jews.
Apologists for Hamas attribute the blood lust to the Israeli occupation and blockade. Occupation? Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling die-hard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted its settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians. There was not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli left in Gaza.
And there was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.
The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that, simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel’s desire to leave the West Bank as well and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.
This is not ancient history. This was nine years ago.
And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them — an independent territory? First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas. Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.
Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state? Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders. They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones. They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. (Just Thursday, the U.N. announced that it found 20 rockets in a Gaza school.) And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
Why? The rockets can’t even inflict serious damage, being almost uniformly intercepted by Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile system. Even West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas has asked: “What are you trying to achieve by sending rockets?”
It makes no sense. Unless you understand, as Tuesday’s Post editorial explained, that the whole point is to draw Israeli counterfire.
This produces dead Palestinians for international television. Which is why Hamas perversely urges its own people not to seek safety when Israel drops leaflets warning of an imminent attack.
To deliberately wage war so that your own people can be telegenically killed is indeed moral and tactical insanity. But it rests on a very rational premise: Given the Orwellian state of the world’s treatment of Israel (see: the U.N.’s grotesque Human Rights Council), fueled by a mix of classic anti-Semitism, near-total historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the ostensible Third World underdog, these eruptions featuring Palestinian casualties ultimately undermine support for Israel’s legitimacy and right to self-defense.
DeleteIn a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, the depravity of Hamas begins to make sense. This is a world in which the Munich massacre is a movie and the murder of Klinghoffer is an opera — both deeply sympathetic to the killers. This is a world in which the U.N. ignores humanity’s worst war criminals while incessantly condemning Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years that nonetheless goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid harming the very innocents its enemies use as shields.
It’s to the Israelis’ credit that amid all this madness they haven’t lost their moral scruples. Or their nerve. Those outside the region have the minimum obligation, therefore, to expose the madness and speak the truth. Rarely has it been so blindingly clear.
I dare you Rufus to read the above column.
DeleteBob OreilleFri Jul 18, 08:56:00 AM EDT
ReplyDeleteI had forgotten about Kuwait.
Bob,
It is one of a multitude of things either forgotten or never learned by those here. I cannot think of a Muslim country that will allow them in as guest workers. There's a reason: wherever they go, death and chaos follow. Look at the history of Arafat the Egyptian for example.
DeleteShlomo Sand, an Israeli professor of history at the University of Tel Aviv. concludes that today’s Muslim and Christian Palestinians are actually the true progenies of the original Jews.
Jamal, then they should convert to Judaism and stop worshiping Jesus and or the moon god...
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DeleteJudaism is not a religion it is a race.
They were born Jews and so they remain Jews.
Either that or the notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is without foundation.
DeleteBut it could be said that the Arab world's dislike of the Palestinian people traces itself to their Judaic roots. That being the progeny of the original Jews carries a stigma to this day. The entire world hates them. Especially the Europeans converts to Judaism.
DeleteAh, Jackass found a new line of JackCrap to spread..
DeleteJamal, thanks for telling us Jews who and what we are...
Let me tell you who and what you are...
You are desert rat, Jack Hawkins, Farmer Rob and an assorted other dozen bullshit made up sign ons to continue to pass, like stinky gas, your jew hating, israel hating nonsense.
The fact? You stand with Iran and Hamas, both sworn enemies of the State.
you are a traitor to the USA.
What would Teddy Roosevelt do with a piece of scum like you? Oh I know, firing squad...
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DeleteLook at the history of Arafat the Egyptian for example.
And yet Arafat was irrelevant, shunned by the Arab states, cut off from the usual sources of funds, in exile in Tunisia...that is, until Israel resuscitated him in Oslo for their own purposes.
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"O"rdure, what happened?
DeleteDid the logical progression bite you in the ass?
p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/gen-james-amos-marine-corps-commandant-slams-obama/
ReplyDeleteTop Marine Corps general slams Obama’s handling of Iraq
He should resign, or be fired
DeleteYou should be arrested and tried for treason, supporting Iran and Hamas, both sworn enemies of state..
Deleteheh, heh, heh.
DeleteYou really do not understand the US, do you, NASI?
You should come visit the USA, drive around in a Chevrolet, you would be amazed, "O"rdure.
DeleteIt is not a police state, like your country is.
After you graduate, come on over and visit.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/18/some-of-israel-s-top-defenders-say-it-s-time-to-end-u-s-aid.html
ReplyDeleteSome of Israel’s Top Defenders Say It’s Time to End U.S. Aid
I agree, Israel should start selling it's technology to the highest bidder.
DeleteThe 3 billion a year comes with too many strings.
The Cato Institute came to that conclusion, a couple of years ago.
Deletehttp://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/case-ending-aid-israel
I recall desert rat advocating that position even earlier.
Good to see that others are catching up on the learning curve.
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DeleteElvis Presley - Puppet on a string
If Israel was not taking US aid, they would garner as much concern as Zimbabwe or North Korea.
DeleteJack Hawkins: I recall desert rat advocating that position even earlier.
DeleteYou are losing it.
You weren't here, "O"rdure.
Deletedesert rat advocated cutting Israel off the US teat before you were posting here, prior to 2008.
Back when "O"riginal was still around.
Get a better file or go read the archives.
Get up to speed, "O"rdure.
Turkish PM accuses Israel of terrorism, genocide; protesters pelt consulate with stones
ReplyDeletehttp://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/18/turkish-pm-accuses-israel-terrorism-genocide-protesters-pelt-consulate-with/
Israel brings home families of diplomats in Turkey - JPost
DeleteGood thing that electric car deal went bust, the cars are being manufactured in Turkey.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140718/ml--syria-6fae92c15b.html
ReplyDeleteReports: 100 killed in seizure of Syria gas field
"The attack was the deadliest fighting so far between fighters of the Islamic State group and forces loyal to President Bashar Assad."
IS strikes again.
Syria conflict: Western countries sending millions of pounds in aid to Isis-controlled regions
ReplyDeletehttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-conflict-how-millions-of-pounds-of-western-aid-destined-for-the-needy-is-falling-into-hands-of-isis-9610491.html
...more good news...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.france24.com/en/20140718-turkey-pm-erdogan-slams-egypts-illegitimate-tyrant-sisi/
Turkey PM Erdogan slams Egypt's 'illegitimate tyrant' Sisi
"'He is not different from the others,' he said, adding that it was Egypt's current rulers who were blocking humanitarian aid channels to the Gaza Strip ruled by the Islamist Hamas movement."
Sooooooooooo...who is the villain, Israel or Egypt?
They are allies, allen.
DeleteThe Israeli, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
Israel was advising Sisi on how to deal with US, back in August of 2013
The New York Times reported on Saturday, quoting diplomatic sources that said that Israel and Egyptian Defense Minister General Abdel Fatah al-Sisi have been in close contact. These same diplomats say that Israel assured Egypt it did not have to worry about the US threat to cut its enormous aid package to that country.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4418953,00.html
Syria's Kurds have imposed compulsory military service for their men to ward off a push by self-declared jihadists in the predominantly Kurdish areas in northern Syria, Kurdish officials said.
ReplyDeleteThe move reflects fears among Syrian Kurds that the ongoing offensive by the Islamic State group in their region may potentially reverse gains made by their ethnic minority in the past three years.
Juan Mohammed, a spokesman for the Kurdish city of Qamishli, said on Thursday Jazira - the largest of the three Syrian Kurdish territories in size and population - adopted the draft law this week.
It requires all adult males serve in "self-defence" duty for six months.
The law was approved on Sunday by the legislative council that acts as Jazira's local parliament. It went into effect this week.
Territorial gains
The Kurds - a long ostracised community in Syria - have made unprecedented gains amid the three-year-old civil war, carving out a semi-autonomous territory in the north as overstretched government troops abandoned the region to focus on defending Damascus, President Bashar Assad's seat of power.
In November, the Syrian Kurds declared their own civil administration in areas under their control, dividing it into the regions of Afrin, Kobani and Jazira.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/07/2014717183154113258.html
Peter Beaumont in Gaza has another compelling story on the terrible human cost of the conflict. Here is how it begins.
ReplyDeleteThe house of the Antez family in Sha'af looks undamaged from the outside. But the men milling around it have the dazed faces of grief that tell a different story.
Inside, the hole punched by the tank shell that hit the house, after clearing the retaining wall, is visible about 3m (10ft) off the ground.
It seems a small thing – a hole the size of a toaster. But the shell travelled through four walls, scattering pieces of shrapnel that have been gathered and placed to one side.
There were 60 people from three families sheltering inside, some under the stairs, some in a corridor leading to a half-finished room.
Following the shell's path through the house, three pools of blood punctuate where three people died – two of them children.
Salem Antez, 29, approached with a purple plastic bag and opened it, its contents terrible.
"This is my son," he said and nothing else, tears tracking down his face. Mohammad, another family member explained, was two. The other dead were Abed Ali, 24, and Mohammad Ibrahim, 13. Salem bent back to his task – his bag becoming a little heavier. "They hit us at 8.45pm," an uncle said. "We had just finished our Iftar meal and were gathered here for safety."
Who would not want to take revenge, in any way possible, against the bastards and supporters of the murderers that did this to his family.
ReplyDeleteThen the Jews should have taken revenge for 1400 years of Islamic rape and murder 1st.
DeleteWho started it?
Well it started when the Jews of Arabia were slaughtered by Mohamed and when he stole their lands and property. made slaves of the women and kids...
I guess you like to draw a line in the sand and start where you want too..
How about starting in Hebron in the 1920's when the arabs slaughtered the Jews....
The Jews and the Muslims co-existed for 1,500 years.
DeleteIt was the Christians, "O"rdure, that slaughtered the Ashkenazi.
It was the Christians that entered Jerusalem and slaughtered the Jew and the Muslims, living there side by side.
Your view of history is skewed by your warped NASI ideology.
The Jews and the Muslims co-existed for 1,500 years.
DeleteThe Jews were dominated, slaughtered, raped and pillaged by the arabs for 1500 years.
there were BRIEF times, in specific small places that had a golden age, if you would
The arabs invented dhimmihood...
learn it.
It just gets better and better. Read 'em and weep, boys; read 'em and weep.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.france24.com/en/20140717-americans-defend-israel-gaza-conflict-boycott-palestinians/
"While voices critical of Israel have grown louder in the US in recent years, a survey published this week revealed that Americans remain steadfast in their support for the Jewish state amid its latest conflict with Palestinian militants."
Tell the Presbyterians
DeleteEnjoy the polls, while the BDS Movement grows, regardless.
DeletePresbyterians are a dying lot...
DeleteWell, that's the view from Tel Aviv, but not from Caterpillar.
DeleteNot from the Universities across North America.
Come take a tour, "O"rdure, become enlightened, educated.
It'll do you good.
I guess you don't get out much, in the real world...
DeleteI'd suggest you get out an stop visiting those aryan nation and or hamas websites...
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ReplyDeleteNetanyahu and Putin are similar in a lot of ways. The recent actions of both have been driven by security concerns. Both indulge in short term plans. And both have been caught up by unexpected events from wackjobs in their own or their enemies camps, events they must use or react to. When you play the games that are being played shit happens.
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DeleteBibi has an ally in the MSM of the US, Putin does not.
DeleteThat is the primary difference 'tween the two.
QuirkFri Jul 18, 11:00:00 AM EDT
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Netanyahu and Putin are similar in a lot of ways.
They both are men, they both breathe, they both take dumps, they both like women, they both, they both are heads of nations, they both have eyes..
Sometimes you are just to smart for your own good..
You sound dumber than Rufus
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DeleteAnd you WiO, driven by your passions, ignore the obvious.
Clean that spittle off your lip and THIMK.
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I ignore stupid childish comparisons that actually mean nothing...
DeleteI think you are getting quite full of yourself
Deuce ☂Fri Jul 18, 10:55:00 AM EDT
ReplyDeleteWho would not want to take revenge, in any way possible, against the bastards and supporters of the murderers that did this to his family.
Great question, does the same apply to the Jews whose homes and family members have been bombed in pizza shops, schools and buses?
Or is only fair and righteous for the Palestinians to seek revenge?
Because if you are advocating "revenge" as a policy? Jews have a much bigger claim to do wonton murder against the arabs and europeans than the arabs have to to against the Jews.
Arabs have, for 13 centuries treated Jews as dogs. They have murdered at will, raped, stolen the girls they wished, they have ethnically cleansed and made slaves of Jews, they have beheaded Jews and humiliated them beyond anything ANY palestinian has every seen or even imagined.
But wait a second. Israel sits on 1/900th of the arab dominated and colonized middle east. It's population is 20% arab and there are more arabs as israeli citizens today than existed from the river to the sea in 1948.....
There must be more to the story...
Why cannot the arab world accept a jewish state as legitimate?
look in the mirror deuce for the answer...
If Israel laid down it's arms tomorrow? Every Jew would be dead with in 24 hours.
If the Arabs laid down their arms tomorrow? There would be peace...
think about it.
If the Jewish Arabs laid down their weapons, opened the borders, ended the blockade of Gaza, then yes ...
DeleteThere would be peace.
End Apartheid, End Jim Crow, establish equality under the law, for all.
DeleteThere would be peace.
Bullshit.
DeleteRead the Hamas Charter, you know the one on your wall....
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and
kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the
rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind
me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
Sorry suicide aint happening...
but thanks for trying...
Might I suggest you try it 1st?
Sodastream
DeleteLOL
DeleteHamas is dying...
Israel lives on...
Come and visit, spend your tourist dollars...
Putin will lose only if Europe responds.
ReplyDeleteEurope will respond only if America leads.
Obama will not lead.
Putin wins.
Palestinian security sources said overnight that Israeli tanks had reached Abu Holeh, roughly in the center of Gaza, and that Israeli troops were clashing with Hamas and Islamic Jihad fighters along the Kissufim road.
ReplyDeleteremember what jackass said, Israelis were cowards to go in...
Up yours Jackass.
The IDF said its troops had killed 17 fighters and captured 13, in addition to uncovering eight of the tunnels they were targeting.
DeleteYep time to build that real prison camp...
Diana Magnay, who is in Israel to report on the latest developments along the Gaza frontier, observed on camera how a group of Israeli gathered near Sderot applauded as the IDF rained missiles down on the Gaza Strip.
DeleteIn a subsequent post on her Twitter feet, she noted that she was threatened by some of the Israelis who warned her not to air footage of their reaction lest her car be "destroyed."
She angrily referred to the group as "scum" before the tweet was deleted from her account altogether.
LOL I suggest she go and report from gaza or egypt, they LOVE blondes there...
Not going in, but staying, that is what counts, "O"rdure.
DeleteThe Israeli have done it before, but would not stay, would not do what it takes to win.
They will not now, either.
They are cowards, they will not go the distance.
Who is going to administer Gaza, will the Israeli stay and manage the mess?
DeleteWill they drive the people into the Sinai?
The Israeli will not do either, so they will lose, in the end.
The Hamas soldiers/terrorists that are dying?
Deletethey are losing...
but again, thanks for trying (and failing) to "keep score"
Because, when it gets right down to it, the Israeli are cowards.
DeleteThey do not have the courage of their convictions.
They deny that they have the convictions, while half-stepping towards their desired result.
But refusing to admit it, because of fear, self doubt and knowing they are wrong and morally bankrupt for choosing the path they are on. They are cowards.
Body count does not win wars, "O"rdure.
DeleteNot in the demographic situation that Israel finds itelf in.
As allen said, the existential threat to Israel, it is not a military one.
It is economic. The Israeli are cutting off their nose, to spite their face.
Carry On!
Sodastream
DeleteSodastream
DeleteSodastream ... more meaningful than 'ditto'
DeleteSorry Jack, Hamas is dying..
DeleteLOL
Who really cares, but you?
DeleteAs for the Hamas Charter ...
ReplyDeleteThat is countered by the writings in the Talmud
During the intifada uprising in Gaza in 1988, the world was horrified when Israeli soldiers buried alive four Palestinian youths. Yet the Talmud sanctions Jewish murder of Gentiles. The Talmud says “if a Jew throws his neighbor into a pit that contains a ladder, then hastens to remove the ladder, he is not liable for the death of his neighbor.”
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How do Jewish authorities today respond to accusations of racism within Judaism’s most sacred literature? Deceptively. Yet they do so with a clear conscience because the Talmud teaches, “it is permitted to deceive a goi [Gentile].” Every year, on the eve of Yom Kippur, religious Jews recite the Kol Nidre prayer, which absolves them of any obligation to tell the truth to Gentiles in the following year.
Popular Jewish writer Herman Wouk comments on the Talmud’s preeminence over all branches of Judaism:
Delete“The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe -- whether we are orthodox or conservative or reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists -- we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”
n its article on “Gentile,” the authoritative Jewish Encyclopedia summarizes the Talmud’s view of Jewish moral superiority. “The Talmud comments on the untruthfulness of Gentiles ... and contrasts it with the reputation of a Jew: ‘The remnant of Israel shall not do iniquity nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth.’”(6) “The Talmudic writers,” this article continues, “say that ‘ ... only Israelites are men’ ... Gentiles they classed not as men but as barbarians.”(7) Rabbi Johanan ben Zakki says that if anyone teaches the Talmud to a Gentile, “such a person deserves death.”(8) Judah ben Illai recommends the daily recital of the benediction: “Blessed be thou ... who has not made me a goi [or Gentile].”(9) Jews are so holy, the Talmud says, “he who smites an Israelite on the cheek is as though he has thus assaulted the divine presence.”(10)
DeleteLittle wonder then that 'Equality under the Law" is impossible in a "Jewish" state
The Zohar continues:
Delete“The ‘ass’ means non-Jew, who is to be redeemed by the offering of the lamb, which is the dispersed house of Israel.
But if he refuses to be redeemed, then break his skull ... they should be taken out of the book of the living.”(19)
... the Jewish Encyclopedia frankly tells us what the Talmud has historically taught Jews to believe. In its articles on “Authority,” “Gentile,” “Jesus,” “Christianity,” “Talmud,” and “Cabala,” it confirms that every Talmudic assertion or passage that I have included in this article reflects Halakah, or Talmudic law.
Deletehttp://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/talmudscalpelthatbleeds.htm
Sodastream - illustrative of the "Existential Threat"
DeleteHow many times have you told us the Israel is a secular state?
DeleteIn the end it's clear, Jack supports Hamas.
DeleteI stand with Israel.
How many times was it denied?
DeleteThe NASI stands with Israel, so what?
Sodastream - the future of the Israeli economy - that and ...
DeleteBetter Place ...... of the high-profile electric car flameouts in 2013, Better Place was the most spectacular.
Sodasteam is doing just fine...
Deletethanks for your concern...
I stand with Israel, you stand with sworn enemies of the United States of America, if your hero Teddy Roosevelt were here? He'd have you arrested for treason.
...probably not...Teddy did not much care for Eastern European scum (Jews) and "N****rs". For all the progressive pretense, he was white, through and through.
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Delete"O"rdure keeps telling us where he stands.
Wish he'd draw a map.
Roosevelt is no hero of mine. He just happens to have been the President of the United States.
One of the guiding lights of the Republican Party.
And no, he would not have me tried for treason. He understood what dissent means, what freedom of speech means.
Come to the United States, you can learn about these things, too.
... it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
Theodore Roosevelt
He would shun Israel because of the policies of the government, there.
I cannot consent to take the position that the door of hope — the door of opportunity — is to be shut upon any man, no matter how worthy, purely upon the grounds of race or color. Such an attitude would, according to my convictions, be fundamentally wrong.
Letter to James Adger Smythe (26 November 1902).
Further Mr Roosevelt speaks to prejudice and discrimination based upon religion
The demand for a statement of a candidate’s religious belief can have no meaning except that there may be discrimination for or against him because of that belief. Discrimination against the holder of one faith means retaliatory discrimination against men of other faiths.The inevitable result of entering upon such a practice would be an abandonment of our real freedom of conscience and a reversion to the dreadful conditions of religious dissension which in so many lands have proved fatal to true liberty, to true religion, and to all advance in civilization.
Letter to Mr. J.C. Martin concerning religion and politics (November 6, 1908)
Mr Roosevelt would be sickened to know that the US is subsidizing the Apartheid actions of the Israeli government.
You lose, "O"rdure.
Stick to what you know about, oppression and hatred.
Israel' stock and trade.
WiO,
ReplyDelete"QuirkFri Jul 18, 11:27:00 AM EDT
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And you WiO, driven by your passions, ignore the obvious.
Clean that spittle off your lip and THIMK."
Are you THMIKING, yet?
I'm Twying too, but it's SOOOO hard to dwoo...
Delete:-) Like gas, this too shall pass. Israeli troops are getting the same support American troops get from the American public. That's got to hurt the apologists for jihad.
DeleteWhen I was a kid, there was a rule: if you hit a guy, expect to be hit back (unless, of course, he was a pansy). Hamas played their game at the wrong time and the wrong place with the wrong people. Now, they are crying like pansies, as are their supporters. Savor the moment.
Down with Netanyahu!
It doesn't feel quite as good the second time, but it's still not bad. :-)
ReplyDeleteIt just gets better and better. Read 'em and weep, boys; read 'em and weep.
http://www.france24.com/en/20140717-americans-defend-israel-gaza-conflict-boycott-palestinians/
"While voices critical of Israel have grown louder in the US in recent years, a survey published this week revealed that Americans remain steadfast in their support for the Jewish state amid its latest conflict with Palestinian militants."
I remember when U.S. public opinion "stood with South Africa."
ReplyDeleteDream on. I do not remember anyone supporting South Africa other than some fringe Klansmen and dirty politicians. The difference could be in our circle of friends.
DeleteHey, I saw that you Mississippians live in the most corrupt state in the country. It seems there is just too much funny money floating around to tempt poor ole boys.
Your lack of memory of events in the US ...
DeleteWhen you didn't live here, that could explain it.
Between erecting a shantytown in Harvard Yard and disrupting a South African official’s speech in the Science Center, anti-apartheid activists at Harvard in the late 1980s pressured the University to fully divest from companies with ties to South Africa.
Even after Harvard tried to placate critics with a policy of “selective divestment,” student activists continued to protest any investment in South Africa.
Activist pressure played a key role in pushing the University to reduce its South African holdings significantly, ultimately leading to a decrease of $230 million in South Africa-based holdings between June 1986 and January 1987.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/5/23/Protest-Divestment-Apartheid/
Took over twenty years, but the movement grew, day by day, school by school, until it reached critical mass
DeleteAnti-apartheid protests took hold in the 1960s, particularly on the campuses of American colleges and universities. Initially, protesters wanted to end apartheid. But there were not many ways to influence the South African government using the traditional forms of protest such as picketing or demonstrations. Eventually, members of the college-based anti-apartheid movement thought of a more practical way to enact change - by pressuring their universities to divest stocks of companies doing business in the country.
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At one point in the ‘80s, between one-half and one-third of the S&P 500 did business in South Africa, placing these companies among the best investments at the time. These were blue-chip stocks, steady earners that were key to the success of endowment funds. And when selling assets, universities have to pay the same fees and charges that any other investor faces. With huge amounts of money at stake, money used to continue and promote the operations of a school, it was understandably tough for college financial officers to sell those assets.
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The Success of Divestment
But while there were strong arguments against divestment, many students continued their protests. And, eventually, college administrators saw it the students' way. The first school to agree to divest its portfolio of companies doing business in South Africa was Hampshire College. By 1988, a total of 155 colleges had at least partially divested.
Great video of one of the hamas tunnels that lead into Israel..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_qs1wvyOWs#t=30
So far Israel has discovered 30 and destroyed 8....
The better news? each tunnel leads to another branch... LOL
another day in Gaza:
ReplyDelete" ‘What was left of Ahmed lay between his dead older brother’s legs’ Add to ...
Patrick Martin
At Kamal Odwon hospital in this northern Gaza town, a woman in her late thirties is pounding on a steel door. Mona Musallem wants to be let in so she can see her three children for the last time. They were killed in the late morning of Friday when a single Israeli tank shell hit their third-floor flat in a building near the Hamas checkpoint outside the Erez border crossing to Israel.
Eventually someone from inside the morgue pulls back the bolts that hold the double doors shut and the sobbing woman can enter.
Mohammd, 15, and his brother Ahmed, 11, were brought into the hospital’s emergency ward on a single stretcher. What was left of Ahmed lay between his dead older brother’s legs. Walla, their sister of 13, was carried in a separate stretcher, wrapped in a blanket. She died in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.
Across the Gaza Strip, the scene is being repeated in major hospitals here and in Gaza City, Khan Yunis and Rafah.
Overnight, Palestinian authorities reported that some 23 Gazans were killed as Israeli forces rained down a torrent of shells from artillery, tanks and ships. Their cover fire allowed thousands of ground forces to push across the Israeli border and advance perhaps 200 meters into Palestinian territory.
But today, in more isolated shelling, a number of civilians, many of them children have been killed: three children here in Beit Lahyia, three others in Khan Yunis, a baby in Rafah.
Israeli government and military officials originally said the incursion is to be limited, only going as far as is necessary to expose and destroy tunnels dug under the border into Israel. Such tunnels, they say, are part of the Hamas organization’s “terrorist infrastructure.”
DeleteOne such tunnel, at the southern-most portion of the frontier, was used Thursday by a squad of Hamas’s military wing, the al Qassam Brigades, to penetrate into Israeli territory. They quickly fled back through the tunnel and into Gaza after an Israeli fighter jet opened fire on them. The Israelis appeared to be waiting for them.
Israeli forces met reportedly little resistance as they advanced, though one Israeli soldier was killed and another three wounded. Now, the Israeli security cabinet, which met at midday Friday, says they have authorized the military to prepare to greatly expand the ground operation.
Last night at 8:45, in the heavy bombardment that preceded the Israeli advance, a shell landed on the home of the Enteis family in Zeitoun, east of Gaza City, one of the neighbourhoods the Israelis warned people Wednesday to evacuate.
Instead of fleeing, the extended Enteis family – 60 people – crowded into the patriarch’s three-story home.
The shell that struck the house travelled through three floors and killed two of Salem Enteis’s children, aged two and 13. This Friday morning, Mr. Enteis is walking through the room where Mohammed was playing last night, scraping up pieces of flesh from the floor and wall and placing them in a plastic bag. He shows us visiting journalists what he’s gathered.
It seems these past three days we have seen a lot of incidents of children shelled, by accident, without planning, but dead.
Considering that families here have an average of six or more children, it means that child fatalities will outnumber adults by a wide margin. When you shell into a family neighbourhood, it’s what those firing must expect.
Around the Gaza Strip, which measures roughly 40 km by 10 km, the streets are mostly empty, few people are venturing out. Coming from Zeitoun, we pass a number of families walking to the homes of relatives in safer districts. Hatam al Katati, walking with four of his eight children, says the shells Thursday night fell at the rate of one every three minutes. “Everyone was terrified, “ he said.
In some areas, such as Jabalia, northeast of Gaza City, there’s a small fruit and vegetable market where a number of women crowd round, snapping up as much as they can, bracing for the next night of shelling should Israelis decide to advance further.
It’s midday prayer time now, and rugs are spread out on the hall outside the hospital morgue. Quickly the room fills with the many men who are here: uniformed orderlies, ambulance drivers, nurses, doctors and lots of friends and relatives of patients and the deceased.
The sound of the Imam leading prayers resonates through the hall and around the hospital. He prays for the souls of the young “martyrs” Mohammed, Ahmed and Walla.
Now the bodies of the three children, shrouded in white burial sheets are being carried through the hall on the way to the nearby cemetery, amid plaintive cries of Allah hu akbar (God is great). It’s a scene being repeated frequently in Gaza on Friday.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/globe-in-gaza-children-killed-in-ground-offensive/article19670736/#dashboard/alerts
Do minor martyrs get minor virgins?
DeleteThis little passage might help you fix that compass of yours allen:
Delete"It seems these past three days we have seen a lot of incidents of children shelled, by accident, without planning, but dead.
Considering that families here have an average of six or more children, it means that child fatalities will outnumber adults by a wide margin. When you shell into a family neighbourhood, it’s what those firing must expect."
By the way, allen, what is the death toll like on the roads in Israel?
What is "Occupation"Fri Jul 18, 01:55:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteGreat video of one of the hamas tunnels that lead into Israel..
If Israel collapses them all simultaneously, the Gazan landscape will resemble that of the Badlands.
ditto
DeleteWiO,
ReplyDeleteHave you studied the Zohar?
Poor Sodastream, their stock value has taken a hit, because of their Israeli base.
ReplyDeleteFrom $58.22 a share in October of 2013 to a new low of $22.92.
All that has slowed the crash ...
An influx of cash, from George Soros.
Sodastream is doing just fine, if losing more than 50% of the stock's value in less than a year is "fine".
Personally that kind of performance has a different adjective in the English vocabulary ... Loser.
Cultural differences, that must explain it.
Sodastream ...
Deletemediocre growth was negatively affected by a staggering 28% decline in the Americas, further amplifying investors' worries.
'Doing just fine' ....
"Over the July 4 weekend, in Chicago alone, 16 people were shot to death and another 66 were wounded."
ReplyDelete___NRA
Yet you and WiO keep reminding us of how Israelis need flee regularly in terror from the Gaza rockets. What was the death toll from that again?
DeleteNot high enough for you, apparently.
DeleteIt doesn't matter. Hamas was the aggressor, Dipshit. I will admit that Israeli politicians care more for their constituents than Hamas.
DeleteAsh,
DeleteI am sure you think you have a point; I doubt it. We are just smarter than you.
Hey Teresita, I thought you left never to return again but I see you think some of your quips so great you need post them in multiple blogs. you go girl!
DeleteNo, you are mistaken, as usual, but I am not rooting for a higher death toll of Israelis from rocket fire but rather am surprised at the disproportionate response to that fire. The death toll is, what, 1? They've doubled that on the first day by losing a soldier in the ground operation. 16 dead through gunfire in Chicago on the weekend. Google revealed 263 Israeli deaths on the road last year. We've got 1 dead from the rockets and the Israelis are shooting fish in the barrel of Gaza in response.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151921148530872&fref=nf
ReplyDeleteGeneral Mattis named CEO of "Soldiers Without Borders" (non-profit)
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteOutside Opinion: Skeptics were wrong; South Africa divestment worked
Decisions were difficult, but their effect on apartheid was significant
Which is why no one sheds a tear about the poor Palestinian, Arab, Iranian, et. al. Muslim women and kiddies "suffering". The Muslims world wide have used up any sympathy they as a religious people ever might have deserved. If they die, they die, and that's fewer future potential terrorists.
ReplyDeleteThe past 30-40 years of World History makes it easier to understand why American's were so brutal and uncaring towards the native American Indians. For the most part, these tribes were every bit as vicious and and brutal and "uncivilized" as the worst of the "radical Muslims" are today. I don't really give a flying f**k what their cult of death teaches about their demi-god or their "religion of peace". The world has seen what it is close up and personal, on their TV screens, and knows the truth about Islam.
I'm not quite at the point of "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" in regards to Muslims, but I'm not shedding tears for their dead. I will never trust a Muslim again, no matter if they wear the same business suits that I do, or if their kids play sports with my kids. Behind every Muslim is the religiously inspired potential for unbelievable cruelty and evil, if only they study the Quran enough to understand their "divine" obligations to rape, rob, murder, and subjugate.
One more thing: My feelings towards Muslims aren't fueled by pure religious hate, as is their feelings about non-Muslims, but upon experience.
Welcome aboard!
DeleteAre you going to ditto that opinion as well allen?
DeleteA word of warning: Jack is a highly trained professional soldier, although he cannot recall the unit in which he served in Central America. Now you know what you are up against. :-)
Deletehttp://www.westernjournalism.com/heavily-armed-hamas-terrorists-emerge-tunnel-didnt-expect/
ReplyDeleteThe force used was disproportionate. Some Israeli housewives and their children should have died first.
Pro-Russian rebels have started firing at independent investigators on the way to the scene of the crime...
ReplyDeleteISIS to Mosul Christians: Leave by Saturday, convert to Islam, pay "tax" or die.
ReplyDeleteWhat a wealth of options.
This IS the Muslim Reformation.
DeleteWhen people used to say, "Islam needs a Reformation", my response was, "Osama is that Reformation". People misunderstand the Reformation. Luther had no plan to leave the Church and head, de facto, a protestant movement. He wanted the Church to return to its ancient roots. Osama and his followers believe they are moving Islam in that direction. And, to repeat, Islam is not the religion of peace; it is the religion of submission, by definition.
DeleteGiven the amount of money that has flooded into Gaza, the average Palestinian should be doing quite nicely. The poverty of Gaza is diametrically opposed to the funds collected by the Hamas leadership.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1359383/hamas-leaders-worth-millions-of-dollars-from-allegedly-skimming-donations-and-extortion-is-anyone-surprised/
DeleteHamas Leaders Worth Millions Of Dollars From Allegedly Skimming Donations And Extortion: Is Anyone Surprised?
AshFri Jul 18, 03:07:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteAre you going to ditto that opinion as well allen?
I don't have to. You do it for me.
eh?
DeleteI take it that is 'yes, you agree with OldSaltUSN' and that Muslims are all bad. Interesting.
Interesting especially given Jewish history and the death rained upon Jews for being Jews. I guess like a child abused has a tendency to grow up to abuse...
Your hatred, allen, is palpable.
Were you not Ash, we might have an interesting conversation on the history of Jews; however, you are Ash, a Muslim shill; therefore, I will not waste my time with semantic game playing. Try Quirk.
Delete.
DeleteWe can have a conversation, Ash, but it has to be about reality. No fair using The WiO and Allen Alternate History of the Universe as faux reference. Let's keep it serious.
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Americans support Israel overwhelmingly. That is reality, Asshole. Your feelings not withstanding. 13 v 0. :-)
DeleteOh, that means more aid. :-) At the moment, that stands at about $700 million. That must hurt, just a little. :-)
Deletehttp://www.inquisitr.com/1359383/hamas-leaders-worth-millions-of-dollars-from-allegedly-skimming-donations-and-extortion-is-anyone-surprised/
ReplyDeleteHamas Leaders Worth Millions Of Dollars From Allegedly Skimming Donations And Extortion: Is Anyone Surprised?
Goodness, me! This is just like Mississippi.
“Khaled Mashal, the leader of the so-called “Political Wing” of Hamas, resides in luxury in Doha, Qatar. It was reported by a Jordanian website in 2012 that he controlled $2.6 billion of Hamas funds. Hamas has invested in Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Dubai.”
ReplyDeleteWhy would the Ukrainian government target an airliner ...
1. To smear the opposition, using a compliant MSM.
2. To kill Vladimir Putin.
Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 298, Interfax news agency reports citing sources.
“I can say that Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft - 15:44 Moscow time,” a source told the news agency on condition of anonymity.
"The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical", the source added.
President Putin was on his way from Brazil, where he attended the BRICS summit, to Moscow.
Deletehttp://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-getting-slammed-113500059.html
ReplyDeleteRUSSIA IS GETTING SLAMMED
Who really cares?
DeleteDown by 2.9%., so much better than SodaStream, Russia is doing fine, by the "O"rdure Standard.
DeleteEven so, what difference doe it make?
Who really cares?
Orders for the IDF's anti-missile aircraft kits have sky rocketed.
DeleteMajor nations and airlines are lining up to pay Israel billions for the retro kits.
Thanks Hamas...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-housing-starts-permits-decline-june-123611308--business.html
ReplyDeleteU.S. housing starts, permits decline in June
" April's starts were revised to show a steeper 7.3 percent fall instead of the previously reported 6.5 percent drop."
This is why only a fool would trust government numbers. Your government lies! That goes for health care as well.
USA IS GETTING SLAMMED
Delete"Your government lies! That goes for health care as well."
DeleteAh, the mask slips, again.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/18/malaysia-plane-ukraine-debris-field-scene/12827931/
ReplyDeleteLooting at jet crash scene may hamper investigation
...scum of the earth...
That's those Ukrainians for ya.
DeleteThe Obama Admin Just Exempted US Territories From Obamacare.
ReplyDeleteNext is blue states.
...He is the state...
DeleteThose people don't pay Federal Income Tax.
DeleteHence, you can't give them "tax credits."
You can't Mandate people to buy something that they're too poor to buy, if you don't have a system for subsidizing the purchase.
None of this applies to the "Blue States."
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_UKRAINE_PLANE_REBEL_COMMANDER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-07-18-14-22-48
ReplyDeleteREBEL LEADER GIVES BIZARRE ACCOUNT OF PLANE CRASH
...right up the Faux Ranger's alley...This has Mossad written all over it. :-)
You're right about one thing, it has Mossad written all over it.
DeleteYou have a nice day, too.
Anon.
DeleteYou need help. The VA, assuming you are a veteran, can give you drugs.
I am having a marvelous day watching Arab warriors retreat behind their shields of women and children. Fortunately, Israel has first rate snippers. They will die and get their virgins.
DeleteDon't need drugs, to quote allen.
DeleteIf there is a bit of delusion, of insanity, it is illustrated by
allenFri Jul 18, 04:17:00 PM EDT
...
... This has Mossad written all over it. :-)
Couldn't agree more, about you needing drugs.
LOL, it's actually "raisins"
DeleteBut who needs accuracy when you are dying for Allah...
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-tells-netanyahu-deeply-concerned-over-gaza-161556130.html;_ylt=AwrBJR7iTslT0AcA71vQtDMD
ReplyDeleteObama tells Netanyahu 'deeply concerned' over Gaza
...the appropriate response: "FU"...
Dear Mr Obama,
DeleteThanks for your concern, I know the operation in Gaza will slow down your illegal fundraising teams that Hamas had set up for you. Fundraising is the #1 priority of your presidency and we all KNOW that Iran and Hamas are key players in your efforts.
Sincerely,
I don't give a shit...
ditto, Brother
DeleteNetanyahu has no choice. His own party is against him. He is toast.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Netanyahu-to-speak-with-world-leaders-to-shore-up-international-support-for-Gaza-incursion-363380
Rocket sirens sound during Netanyahu's phone conversation with Obama
Down with Netanyahu (with the accent on "yahoo").
Cummins Inc. announced the development of an E85 optimized engine and powertrain that reduces greenhouse gas emissions (GHG) by as much as 50 to 80 percent when compared with a baseline gasoline-powered medium-duty truck.
ReplyDeleteUsing corn-derived E85, the high thermal efficiency and power-to-weight ratio of the Cummins prototype engine results in 50 to 58 percent lower well-to-wheels CO2 emissions compared with the gasoline engine baseline. Using second-generation lignocellulosic-derived E85, the powertrain's efficiency features deliver an impressive 75 to 80 percent lower well-to-wheels CO2 emissions, depending on the drive cycle.
More than 1,000 miles and 1,500 hours have been accumulated on the Cummins ETHOS 2.8L engine over the past two-and-a-half years, demonstrating the technology is capable of far exceeding the 50 percent CO2 emissions reductions outlined in the project's goals. A final on-road validation testing phase has been underway in the Sacramento, California, area since June and continuing into this month, and is being managed by Cummins Pacific, the exclusive California and Hawaii distributor for Cummins Inc. The work was jointly funded by Cummins in partnership with the California Energy Commission.
"The Cummins ETHOS engine, developed through a research partnership with CEC, clearly demonstrates that by combining innovative engine design and combustion approaches with low-carbon alternative fuels, we can determine a path to significant reductions in greenhouse gas emissions," said Wayne Eckerle, Cummins vice president of research and technology, in the Cummins’ announcement.
The Cummins ETHOS 2.8L is designed specifically to use E85. To take full advantage of the favorable combustion attributes and potential of E85, the engine operates at diesel-like cylinder pressures and incorporates advanced spark-ignition technology, the company announcement said. It delivers the power (up to 250 horsepower) and peak torque (up to 450 lb-ft) of gasoline and diesel engines nearly twice its 2.8-liter displacement.
The Cummins ETHOS 2.8L engine also incorporates . . . . .
Finally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCV0YXXyuHc
ReplyDeleteI'm a Loser
That is indeed the truth, allen, you are a loser.
DeleteThanks for letting us all know that you are self-aware.
Chickenshit
DeleteOr..are you the lost Faux Ranger? What was that unit in which you served in Central America?
Delete"Oh, I wanna be an Airborne Ranger"
You phony, motherfucker...
http://news.yahoo.com/bill-clinton-warns-israel-isolating-itself-world-opinion-132921445.html
ReplyDeleteBill Clinton warns Israel on 'isolating itself from world opinion'
Hey, Blowjob Jockey
China and India, among others love to deal with Israel.
Take your sorry cracker ass elsewhere - say Bahain.