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Wednesday, July 16, 2014

"As an ex-soldier in the Israeli Defense Forces, I've seen how shockingly we treat Palestinians There are moral red lines. Why do we keep crossing them?”


INDEPENDENT

I only knew Gaza from the stories.  It was the military zone for which the Givate Brigade was responsible, but we all knew the stories about how they managed to kill several militants in one ambush. Honestly, we were a bit jealous. I was drafted into the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) at the end of the Second Intifada into a special operations unit of the paratrooper brigade. From the start of my service I knew that Nablus and Jenin would be the areas for which we were responsible. Child’s play, seemingly, compared to the stories that came out of Gaza – but my child’s play. I’ll never forget the first time that I was shot at, the first Palestinian corpse I ever saw, and the fear and adrenaline during my first military operation.

My first mission involved the seizure of a Palestinian home. I had never before had the opportunity to be inside a Palestinian home, and my squad was surprised for a moment by the fact that within the home lived an entire family – spanning three generations. We woke everyone up, and took over the house. We put everyone in one room - women, men, children, and the elderly. One of the guys was stationed at the door to ensure that they didn’t get out. In the meantime, we took care of our business. I remember asking myself: what do they think about all of this? What would I do if soldiers broke into my home? But I immediately repressed these questions and carried on with the mission. As time passed, fear turned into boredom, adrenaline stabilized, and my doubts about the extent of the operational logic and its justification would return to gnaw at me. But the next day there were already new operations. This was our daily routine, and as a result, the next time I didn’t really think about how the family whose home we entered felt. My personal red moral line blurred very quickly. Every time I would tell myself – this is still okay. But it’s in the nature of red lines to move along an imaginary scale. I wasn’t bothered when we destroyed entire homes during search operations, and when my squad accidentally shot an innocent woman, and we quickly buried the incident and moved on. Today I know that my ability to distinguish whether a particular action crosses the line, didn’t really exist back then

What happened to me is happening to the IDF and to Israeli society at large. During Operation Cast Lead I had been a civilian active with Breaking the Silence for over a year, but I was still shocked by the incidents I heard had occurred there. I remember a friend who had taken part in Cast Lead. He returned shaken by the fact that homes of “Hamas members” were deemed legitimate targets for bombing without any relation to the risk they posed to our soldiers in the field. That was the first time he had encountered such orders during his military service. This is what he testified:

"In the morning we identified four men, aged 25 - 40, with keffiyehs, standing outside the house talking. It was suspect. We reported it to intelligence, specifying the house they were about to enter. Intelligence passed this on to the Shabak (Israeli Security Agency) who reported that this was known as a Hamas activist’s house. This is automatically acted upon. I don’t remember what we used - whether it was a helicopter or something else, but the house was bombed while these guys were inside. A woman ran out of the house holding a child, and escaped southward. That is to say, there had been innocent people inside."

The same red line that was crossed during Operation Cast Lead has become the starting line for Operation Protective Edge. Homes of “Hamas members” were added to the IDF’s long list of potential targets in the Gaza Strip.

The politicians that send us to perform these tasks don’t even pretend to promise hope for a better future. Just further use of force and violence. Our doubts about logic and justice don’t even interest us anymore, as our red moral lines are constantly moving in the face of our reality - much like mine during my military service. 150 killed in Gaza in the first six days of the operation, the vast majority of whom were civilians, and a quarter of whom were children. Millions of Israeli and Palestinian people live in existential fear that a rocket or a missile will fall on their heads. The end of one bout of violence merely sets an alarm for the next.

The red line at which we stopped during Operation Cast Lead (2009), is the same line from which we commenced Operation Pillar of Defense (2011). The point at which we stopped during Pillar of Defense is the same place from which we’ve started Protective Edge. What will our next red line be? And when will we cross that one too? Only we can answer that question. It depends on us, and what we allow others to do in our name.



Avner Gvaryahu served in the IDF as a sergeant in special forces from November 2004-November, 2007 

“We (Israelis) treat them as animals, and this is the result.”



What real American would put up with this kind of treatment?

210 comments:

  1. My question to Quirk remains.

    What would you do to end the missile business in Gaza?

    Open the borders?

    ........

    This guy seems as confused as Bo Bergdahl.

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    1. What would you know about Bo Bergdahl or anything about anyone with his experiences?

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    2. America operates at a much different level of policing.

      Just read about the numerous home raids by the DHS and local weaponized swat teams.

      Sounds like Israel works to a much higher standard than America.

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    3. Only to those that listen to liars like "O"rdure

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  2. You treat people with the dignity they deserve.

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    1. When Palestinians "take over" an Israeli home?

      They bash in the skulls of the babies in front of the parents. Then they rape the women, then murder them in front of the men, then execute the men.

      Then they dismember them...

      SO sorry if we treat Palestinians with less then white gloves.

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    2. The Itamar attack,[2] also called the Itamar massacre,[3] was an attack on a Jewish family in the Israeli settlement of Itamar in the West Bank that took place on 11 March 2011, in which five members of the same family were murdered in their beds. The victims were the father Ehud (Udi) Fogel, the mother Ruth Fogel, and three of their six children—Yoav, 11, Elad, 4, and Hadas, the youngest, a three-month-old infant. According to David Ha'ivri,[4] and as reported by multiple sources[5] the infant was decapitated.[6] The settlement of Itamar had been the target of several murderous attacks before these killings.[7]

      Amjad Awad and Hakim Awad, two young Palestinian men from the village of Awarta, were arrested for the murders. On 5 June 2011 they were indicted on five counts of murder, stealing weapons, breaking and entering, and conspiracy to commit a crime. Both were later found guilty. They initially denied any involvement in the attack[8] but later proudly confessed to the killings,[9] expressed no remorse and reenacted the attack before security officials.[10]

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    3. The murder of Shalhevet Pass was a shooting attack which was carried out on March 26, 2001 in Hebron, West Bank, in which a Palestinian sniper killed the ten-month-old Israeli infant Shalhevet Pass. The event shocked the Israeli public, partly because an investigation ruled that the sniper had deliberately aimed for the baby.[2] The murder became a "potent Israeli symbol as an innocent victim of the raging violence".[3]

      The murder[edit]
      On March 26, 2001, at 4:00 pm, Shalhevet was shot in her stroller while her parents were accompanying her from a parking lot by the Avraham Avinu neighborhood in Hebron, where she and her family lived.[2][4][5] A Palestinian sniper resumed firing, after a ten minute lull, from the Abu Sneinah neighborhood on the hill opposite.[2][5] Shalhevet was killed instantly.[6] The baby's mother grabbed her and ran with her, only to find that blood was running down her hands.[7] One of the sniper's bullets penetrated the baby's head, passing through her skull, and hit her father as well.[8][9] Shalhevet's young father Yitzchak Pass, a student, who had been pushing the stroller, was also seriously wounded minutes later by two bullets.[2][4][10][11][12]

      Press accounts indicated that at the time of the shooting: "The ... playground was swarming with children because new sand had been delivered to the sandbox."[2] According to what Human Rights Watch described as "unconfirmed settler accounts", another two girls playing nearby were almost injured when bullets passed through their clothing, while another had her finger grazed by a bullet.[2]

      This is POLICY for the Palestinians

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    4. Over 1,500 Palestinian children have been killed by the Israeli since 2000

      You are ranting about 1/1,500 of the murders of children. "O"rdure.
      It is less than Israel's "Fair Share".

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    5. you yourself have argued that Israel kills 40,000 babies a year thru abortion of their own.

      if that is true, and you say it's the same as killing humans then your argument is that Israel has killed over 450 thousand jews since 2000 who gives a shit about 1,500 palestinian kids, that is about .0032% of the total kids killed..

      Thanks for giving us the numbers and perspective.

      Again, according to your own arguments Israel kills 450,000 Jewish kids since 2000, who gives a shit about the 1,500 palestinians

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  3. Israeli/US policy doesn’t kill terrorists, it creates them.

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    1. Utter non sense.

      You want me to start quoting the passages in the Koran?

      The Koran creates terrorists.

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    2. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Why_Terrorism_is_Allowed_in_Islam

      First thing that came up.

      One could read for days.

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    3. Which came 1st?

      The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.[1] The event also left scores seriously wounded or maimed. Jewish homes were pillaged and synagogues were ransacked. Many of the 435 Jews who survived were hidden by local Arab families.[2][3] Soon after, all Hebron's Jews were evacuated by the British authorities. Many returned in 1931, but almost all were evacuated at the outbreak of the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine. The massacre formed part of the 1929 Palestine riots, in which a total of 133 Jews and 110 Arabs were killed, and brought the centuries-old Jewish presence in Hebron to an end.

      The massacre, together with that of Jews in Safed, sent shock waves through Jewish communities in Palestine and around the world. It led to the re-organization and development of the Jewish paramilitary organization, the Haganah, which later became the nucleus of the Israel Defense Forces.[citation needed] In the metanarrative of Zionism, according to Michelle Campos, the event became 'a central symbol of Jewish persecution at the hands of bloodthirsty Arabs'[4] and was 'engraved in the national psyche of Israeli Jews', particularly those who settled in Hebron after 1967.[5] Hillel Cohen regards the massacre as marking a point-of-no-return in Arab-Jewish relations, and forcing the Mizrahi Jews to join forces with Zionism.[6]

      Long before the liberation of Israel, long before the partition of Palestine the arabs were butchering Jews.

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    4. Should I quote the passages from the Talmud that are far worse than the passages from the Koran?

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    5. quote them in the original language.

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  4. This one looks good -

    Does the Quran really contain dozens of verses promoting violence?


    Summary Answer:

    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

    Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.

    The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God, however this can work both ways. Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy book's call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny. >>>>>Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.<<<<<

    Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history.

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

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  5. I won't be around tomorrow so I best get my little say in now.

    I agree with this -

    >>>>Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology.<<<<

    Culture counts. It is a cultural war.

    It is a literary dispute.

    out

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  6. I would shoot rockets at them until they killed me, and all my family. I would rather my kids were killed helping me fight than to see them grow up under those conditions.

    The more I see of this, the more I'm convinced that Israel has no future.

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    1. The more I read about your comments the more I understand you have no ability to understand shit.

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    2. The truth?

      The arab world has no future. It's murdering itself as we speak.

      I'd suggest you take a trip to Gaza and see with your own eyes. Oh and visit Israel too...

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    3. Visit Gaza, Israel?

      Doubtful.

      Rufus hasn't been out of Mississippi in forty years.

      He's the definition or arm chair quarterback.

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    4. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees

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  7. They persecute women, they hang gays, they burn down churches and synagogues, they kidnap and murder children, they rape women routinely, they stone young girls to death for not being properly subservient to men, they despise western values, they hate democratic values, they cut the heads off of journalists (Daniel Pearl), they are permitted to lie to non muslims, break contracts, and rough up non muslims when the mood strikes, they are ok with mass murder and suicide for their weird idea of god, they are modern murderous barbarians that are ok with shooting deadly rockets at innocent children and the elderly, and they despise Americans and hate Canadians. Even so, the liberal left of America invents words like Islamophobia and actually cheer for Hamas and blame Israel for being bullies. If this is not enough to make one vomit, you have a stronger stomach than I.

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    1. Islamophobia is SANE.

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    2. Sound just like the Zionists.

      Remember the "Patra"!

      Remember the USS Liberty!

      Remember the Stern Gang's alliance with Hitler.

      Remember the 400,000 people the Zionist disposed of the homes and property.

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  8. "We woke everyone up, and took over the house. We put everyone in one room - women, men, children, and the elderly. One of the guys was stationed at the door to ensure that they didn’t get out. In the meantime, we took care of our business."

    No one raped, no one beaten, house was not sledgehammered, no one was shot, not one person was executed in front of the family.

    How is this different than what happens in America?

    Oh, in America we strip search the women, we trash the houses and shoot their dogs.

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  9. What is "Occupation"Wed Jul 16, 07:59:00 AM EDT
    When Palestinians "take over" an Israeli home?

    They bash in the skulls of the babies in front of the parents. Then they rape the women, then murder them in front of the men, then execute the men.

    Then they dismember them...


    blood libel

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    1. hardly, I do not attack innocent moslems on the street, i do not firebomb civilian cars and throw rocks at them.

      If Israel has become what we hate?

      We COULD have cluster bombed the strip decades ago, seeking civilian deaths.

      but Israel still provides electricity, food, medical care and supplies to our enemies.

      :)

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  11. The death toll rises.

    Israel warns the Gazans of a specific area to leave, Hamas demands they stay... (or get shot?)

    Now that's democracy. (from the barrel of a gun)

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    1. Sort of like those belligerent Jews that chose to fight and die rather than leave the Warsaw Ghetto just because superior armed German troops warned them to get out. Palestine and Gaza is their land and their homes. Why should they get out? Better to stand and fight as freedom loving people have done forever, regardless of the threats of their oppressors and tormenters.

      Why should the trust an occupying power?

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    2. Had the Jews stood and fought in Europe instead of capitulating to the Nazi killers, the cost would have become intolerable to the thugs with the guns. The European Jews had the resources to outgun the brown shirted scum. Jewish men could have done the math for them:

      One dead Jew :: One dead Nazi.

      That is what men do to protect their own. It is the historical role and duty of a man.

      Had that happened, there would never have been a need for an Israel. The Jews would have kept their lands, proper and lives in the land of their fathers, Europe.

      The capitulation and doing as they were told by the haters with the guns, was a disaster. Why should the Palestinians repeat such pitiful foolery and trust their freedom, lives and property to those that ridicule, detest and hate them?

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    3. thanks for rewriting history.

      but the fake nationalistic people self named "palestinians" who are in fact nothing more than arabs, have always hated and abused the minority jews they could…

      The laws that Mohammed enforced on Jews and Christians were vile, it's called dhimmihude. Look it up and learn something.

      Jews lived in the middle east (outside or arabia) LONGER by a thousand years than the arabs from arabia. (in 640 ce)

      To infer that Israel is a creation because of WW2 shows you just have no clue to history

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  12. 90% of the water in Gaza is Undrinkable.

    Those people will fight until they die. No one will live like that.

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    1. You don't know what you are talking about.

      http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2706/is_israel_really_to_blame_for_gaza_s_water_shortages

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    2. Yes, he does know what he is referencing.

      http://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20140209_gaza_water_crisis
      Over 90% of water in Gaza Strip unfit for drinking

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    A response to BO:

    My question to Quirk remains.

    What would you do to end the missile business in Gaza?




    Confused? I am not confused. I have told you the direction this conflict is going and predicted it will continue on into the future in the absence of some unknown seminal event. We have seen this in the demands each side makes in the so-called 'peace talks' and the responses from the other side. The difference of course is that Israel has the overwhelming military power and the Gazans have 'rockets'.

    My comments yesterday were not a criticism of what is going on in Israel right now. It is what it is and will continue. IMO, it is inevitable given the current leadership of both sides. No, my criticism was of the bullshit we are handed daily by you and the Israeli lobby here trying to justify it and demean the other side.

    Man up. Realistically accept what is going on there and stop making excuses. It makes you look hypocritical and, if you truly believe the nonsense you spout, just plain stupid.

    You go on and on about how the bombings are reflective of Arab culture; yet, you ignore Israel's past and the facts on the ground.

    Israel has been the occupying power in Gaza and the West bank for the last 45 years. You demand Israel have 'self-determination' yet the Arabs have nothing resembling that and, IMO, can't expect it for the foreseeable future if ever. In Israel proper, you have a two-tier society both de jure and de facto made up of the Jews on one side and everyone else on the other. In the occupied territories, you have a population controlled by Israel. Yet you claim the Palestinians are unreasonable in complaining.

    You scream of all the deaths caused by terrorists but let's get a little perspective. When you have a conflict that has been going on for a century you are likely to have deaths. According to the Jewish Virtual Library there have been 3,728 Jewish deaths attributed to terrorists in Israel/Palestine since 1920, 3.7 per year. Any death is a tragedy but everyone in the world suffers. Look at the number of Palestinian deaths. This conflict has been going on for decades and it hasn't been one-sided.

    You tell us that Gaza is independent and not occupied by Israel. True only in the sense that the guards don't normally enter the prison to check on the prisoners. The rest of it is bullshit. You can call it a ghetto. You can call it a prison. You can call it occupied territories. You can't call it an independent state. It is a prison in every sense of the word from the walls and towers, to the guard posts, to the no-man's land.

    You talk about how ungrateful the Palestinians are in complaining about all the wonderful things Israel is doing for them. Israel, the benevolent dictator, determines every aspect of the lives of the Palestinians in Gaza, what food they eat and how much, how much water they are allowed, how much electricity they receive, whether they are allowed to travel, what they are allowed to import-export, who they can sell to or buy from, what resources they can develop, etc. etc. Try reading something besides American Thinker.

    We hear it must be great in Gaza. They actually have a fancy smanzy night club there. As if, in a territory that is completely dependent upon foreign aid, were 70% of the population live in poverty, where over 25% are unemployed, and where half the women and children suffer anemia, there are a lot of people who are going to be able to party down and boogy all night.

    The rockets? I don't have a solution and neither does anyone else. In the absence of some temporary truce while people catch their breath, the rockets will continue to drop until Hamas runs out or Israel destroys their supply. Then things will be relatively calm while Hamas restocks and a couple of years down the road it will all begin again.

    Own it and quit selling what no one is buying.

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    1. The rockets? I don't have a solution.....but you took a long time getting to that admission.

      aah ha

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    2. He tried to sort of smuggle it in there at the bottom hoping folks had given up reading by then.

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    3. End the war against Gaza and the rocket will stop.
      Rebuild the airport
      Open the port

      End the existential threat to the Palestinians.

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      You'll notice when these chicken shits have something stupid to say they suddenly go 'anonymous'.

      What an asshole.

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    5. Gaza is not occupied by Israel.

      Gaza should be returned to Egypt where it was part of for centuries.

      Gaza was lost FROM egypt because EGYPT used it as a base to attack israel.

      not every strip of land is capable or entitled to be an independent nation.

      The population of Gaza need to be citizens of Egypt.

      That would solve the gaza issue.

      The self named palestinians of the west bank? Need to get Jordanian citizenship and then democratically elect to change Jordan BACK into "Palestine"

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  14. According to The United Nations,

    "In the Gaza Strip, 90 percent of water in the underlying coastal aquifer beneath the Gaza Strip is unfit for human consumption as a result of pollution caused by raw sewage and rising seawater infiltration," the report said.

    Water is a "constant point of conflict with Israel," the Financial Times reported.

    The coastal aquifer that most people on the Gaza Strip depend is in dire condition and could become unusable within the next three years, and irreversibly polluted by 2016, the UN had previously found.

    "Polluted tap water has forced many families to buy expensive water from external vendors or to rely on desalinated water supplied by the Coastal Municipalities Water Utility, putting an unreasonable burden on average household incomes, which are already struggling at or below subsistence levels," the report said.

    Gaza's water is polluted by sewage and chemicals, Reuters reported. Meanwhile . . . .

    U.N. Report


    I don't have to leave Ms. I have the internet.

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    1. Maybe the Gazans should build a sewage treatment plant?

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    2. The Israeli bombed it, two days ago.
      The Israeli will not allow the building materials into that portion of Israel called Gaza.

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    3. The gaza redirected tens of thousands of yards of concrete and tons and tons of steel to honeycomb the strip with tunnels and not build sewage treatment plants and piping.

      The border that Egypt and Gaza share is NOT controlled by Israel.

      If the Israelis really controlled what was brought into the gaza strip, then tens of thousands of rockets and missiles would not be there.

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  15. http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/14/us/theme-park-employees-child-sex-stings/
    Iraqi army retreats from Tikrit after assault stalls

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  16. Rufus IIWed Jul 16, 07:20:00 AM EDT
    The more I see of this, the more I'm convinced that Israel has no future.

    That has always been your hope. You did not fool anyone with that down-home, "I don't give a fuck about the ME” crap. Whit and a number of former correspondents had your number years ago, as did I. Embrace the real you.

    Happily, you will not live to see the end of Israel and neither will your grandchildren. Have a nice day and keep those boots shined.

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    1. Israel is a dead man walking

      Spengler's Universal Law #9:
      A country isn't beaten until it sells its women, but it's damned when its women sell themselves.


      Israel, both beaten and damned.

      hat tip: allen

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    2. Jack are you referring to Arizona? The nation's center for escort and hookers?

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  17. Bob OreilleWed Jul 16, 03:56:00 AM EDT
    My question to Quirk remains.

    What would you do to end the missile business in Gaza?



    He hasn't a clue because he has no moral base from which to draw a rational answer, that base being polluted by bigotry.

    On 9/11, I am sure he had no qualms about the US defending and avenging herself. It's the Jew part that gives him a problem. It comes with the religious heritage of 1800 years: Jew=anti-Christ (as the metaphor for all life's ills).

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    1. allen is back to racism as his primary driver.

      Sounds just like Eric Holder.
      And is just as believable.

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    2. The youth of American Jewry is abandoning Israel.
      The trendline i clear.

      Israel was going to run TV commercials to influence tha community.
      Bad form.

      The Israeli need to change their ways, or their GOVERNMENT will be obliterated.

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    3. Apartheid will be the death of Israel.
      As it was for the National Party (NP) governments of South Africa.

      The National Party (NP) governments were the Israeli's closest ally.
      Israel is on the same path, going no where, too.

      Apartheid is the existential threat to Israel, not the Palestinians, not Hamas.

      Hamas thrives because of Apartheid. there was no Hamas before Apartheid.

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      What an idiotic remark, Allen.

      What would you do to end the 'missile business' in Gaza?

      Attack Gaza and salt the earth? If you think Israel would or should do that, it is you that lacks the moral core. In the absence of that there is no answer. You can destroy their entire supply and in a few years we will be back here debating what to do about the new 'missile business'.

      Save your race-baiting for when Bob gets back. You'll have a bigger audience.

      .

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    5. Hey, dildo, don't put your projective words into my mouth or your silly ideas into my head. You are clueless and way out of your limited depth.

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    6. Wasn't it you that, Allen, that urged attacks upon Gaza and salting the earth? I'm pretty sure you wrote that sometime within the last week...

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    7. I think Israel should do a limited ground exercise. Open up a path from the coast to the edge of Gaza city.

      Then start pumping sea water into the tunnels that run under the city.

      Do nothing but that for the next 50 days…

      LOL

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    8. .

      :-)

      Hey, dildo, don't put your projective words into my mouth or your silly ideas into my head. You are clueless and way out of your limited depth.

      But no answer to Bob's (and my) question, "What would you do about this missile business in Gaza". I can only assume it is because he hasn't a clue because he has no moral base from which to draw a rational answer, that base being polluted by bigotry.

      What a dolt.

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  18. The Made-in-America Immigration Crisis
    Decades of lax policies have produced the latest wave of Central American migrants
    David Frum


    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/an-immigration-crisis-we-brought-on-ourselves/374491/?google_editors_picks=true

    The story is much deeper than Mr Frum exposes, it goes back a hundred years, not just thirty, but what he writes is accurate, too.

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    1. "The Central Americans showing up in Texas are not this hemisphere’s version of Syrian refugees, fleeing a war zone where they would be killed if they stayed. They are people coping with a very ugly set of choices, made worse by America’s past laxity on immigration. If the present surge is not stopped and reversed, those choices will get uglier still."

      "If the present surge is not stopped and reversed, those choices will get uglier still."

      As expected, BHO, in league with Buffet, other Billionaires, and the "US Chamber of Commerce" is doing everything he can to make those choices uglier still.

      Ugly is beautiful.

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    2. "In the summer of 2012, President Obama announced that he would use executive power to grant provisional legal immigration status to the estimated 800,000 illegal aliens who entered the United States as minors. With this action, Obama unwittingly created powerful new incentives for illegal migration by people under the age of 18. "

      Ugly and evil he is, WITLESS he is NOT.

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    3. Hard to believe that the Mexico that my family enjoyed in the 1950's has devolved to this.

      Largely as a result of our policies and our appetite for drugs, and those who "wage war" against them.

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    4. Down in Mexico, the government arrested and took Doctor Mireles to prison.
      He wouldn't go along with the creation of a federalized Rurale Police,

      Tried to warn him, but his gatekeepers were/are ideologues.

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    5. Arrest

      On 27 June 2014, Mireles was arrested with 45 other people in Lázaro Cárdenas, Michoacán by Mexican authorities for violating Mexico's Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives.[16] The government had pledged to arrest civilians that were armed and did not form part of the Fuerza Rural ("Rural Force") police.[17] This action happened one week after a TV interview in Channel 13 that was cut short as a consequence of a phone call ordering the interview to stop, in which he was denouncing the Mexico President involvement on the Michoacán irregularities.

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    Has anyone who watches such things noticed that the Fed under Yellen is now offering market timing advise, getting specific on which sectors are overbought, getting specific enough to talk about sectors as insignificant to overall market health as small-cap biotech?

    It's not your father's Federal Reserve anymore.

    .

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    1. Same laws, same owners.
      Still not audited by the government.

      Just more blatant, more public in their announcements.
      Democratizing the private Central Bank.
      The advice just not given to the cronies, behind closed doors.

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  20. Another day at the Bar. Another day of Jew versus Jew hater. Some sure enough boring shit. The US kills 1000s of unborn babies every few weeks. Some are used to heat buildings in the winter. What's the big deal.

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    1. That is in England, fool, not the US.

      But document the claim, if you can.
      It would be something new.

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    2. In England, when the practice of incinerating the bodies was made public knowledge, it was stopped.
      The abortions continue, the incineration of the remains ended.

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    3. http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/04/24/horrifying-bodies-of-aborted-babies-burned-to-power-homes-in-oregon-n1828680

      Hospitals have to something with dead body parts, and bodies.

      While it sounds totally shocking, the only other options seem to be to cremate these little babies individually and scatter the ashes somewhere, or bury them in graves.

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    4. http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/06/07/how-to-get-electricity-from-an-aborted-fetus/

      But really, aside from the graphic mental image the process evokes, there’s nothing outrageous about it. Plenty of world governments allow the burning of medical waste for power generation, and fetal incineration is often mandated in state health codes. As unpleasant as it may be to consider, the fact is that millions of babies die in the hospital, whether through abortion, miscarriage, or complications at birth. For the vast majority of those cases, the resulting tissue, for lack of a better word, is required to be incinerated.

      In North Carolina, regulations require fetal remains to be either buried—in a medical waste landfill—or incinerated. In Texas, if the remains aren’t incinerated, they’re destroyed by “grinding and discharging to a sanitary sewer.” It’s a dirty process all around, but unfortunately it’s a necessary one. In the UK alone, there are 11 stillbirths per day, and one out of seven pregnancies is a miscarriage. No matter where they’re incinerated, the end result is the same. Isn’t it better to turn those losses into something better, something meaningful?

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    5. .

      Better is a subjective concept. The answer depends on the views of the individual. What that answer is for each individual to a degree defines his worldview.

      .

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  21. allen told us the existential threat to Israel was not the rockets killing Israeli, that they could live with.
    The existential threat from the rockets, it was killing the prospects for growth in the economy.

    'Stop Israel's war crimes in Gaza!', Asia-Pacific socialists say
    * Call for the intensification of the economic boycott, disinvestment and sanctions campaign against Israel.

    ...armed resistance is “just one aspect of achieving the freedom.” “BDS [Boycott, Disinvestment, and Sanctions] is also something that will be able to achieve that”

    PLM Statement Stop Israeli Bombing of Gaza-Palestine!
    Calls on the Philippine government to immediately withdraw its ambassador from Israel, cut diplomatic ties and end any military and defence ties with Israel.

    Supports calls for the intensification of the economic boycott, disinvestment and sanctions campaign against Israel.


    It's not the Israeli people the Hamas rockets are targeting, it is the economy, stupid.
    The retaliation by the Zionists helps intensify the disinvestment feedback loop.

    Israel's tunnel vision ...
    ... if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail

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  22. Neither you nor your grandchildren will have the satisfaction of seeing Israel perish.

    What ever happened to the mighty, mighty Russian air force and its covering fire for advancing Iraqi armor and infantry? :-) The vaunted Iraqi juggernaut is falling back in disarray. IS obviously has some of the best leadership the Muslim world has seen since Saladin (a Kurd, by the way). Iraq is dead, and only a massive military campaign by the West, with boots on the ground, will be able to stand erect its rotting corpse draped in a colonialist flag.

    Iraq is dead, Syria is dead, Lebanon is dying, Libya is entering into a genuine civil war, Egypt is one refused loan away from catastrophic collapse, and Turkey, according to EU leaders (read Merkel’s Germany), is being run by a mad man. Israel is thriving economically. Israel has free elections. Israel will bring down Netanyahu without a shot being fired and replace him with someone with intestinal fortitude. Since 1948, Israel’s imminent demise has been touted by Jew haters. Indeed, Israel’s creation by the UN was one of history’s great cynical moments: Israel was supposed to be disposed of by Arab armies, ending the Jew problem at long last. Wrong! You will carry your unfulfilled black-hearted dreams and poisonous venom to your graves, as Israel stands proud as the only civilized country in the region. Sorry… :-)

    When American mass transit systems and entertainment venues for the young start being blown to bits by the philosophical cousins of the Palestinians, and Palestinians themselves, we will see how laid back you are. For the record, Palestinians fundamentally have changed American history: RFK was murdered by one.

    As to homes being seized by government thugs, you should check your local news. It is happening everyday in the "land of the free and the home of the brave".


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    1. The "Jewish" state is already dead.
      All that remains is a husk.

      Abortion, prostitution homosexuality all celebrated in "Jewish" Israel.

      Dead man walking

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    2. Israel is a secular state, a liberal's dream...

      But that is all, and its' days are numbered, you told us so yourself.

      The Existential threat is looming on the horizon, it is not military, it is economic.

      Pull up your socks and hold on to your hat

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    3. "Abortion, prostitution homosexuality"

      ...not that there's anything wrong with that.

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    4. All that is missing, in "Jewish" Israel ...

      the "Golden Calf"

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    5. Not in a secular and socialist state, Doug, you're correct.
      That is the point.

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    6. God you're fucked up, Jack Hawkins.

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    7. Isn't Bull Worship better than Bull Abuse, as practiced in Spain and Mexico?

      Isn't Bull Shit the ultimate achievement of mankind?

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    8. ...enter Rufus. with how many Kilocalories of energy can be recovered by fermenting one Bull Pie.

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    9. The Bull was Taurus.
      Moses was leading his people into the age of Pisces.

      Jesus will return to the house of the water bearer, Aquarius.

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    10. The Age we've all been waiting for.

      The result for me, mostly: More Age.

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    11. "The Existential threat is looming on the horizon, it is not military, it is economic."

      What is the threat?

      Are they in the same Demographic Socialist Economic Death Spiral and the USA?

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    12. "and the USA?"

      AS the USA?

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    13. The Existential threat that allen was referring to, was that without "Security" foreign investment would 'dry up'.
      That the foreign investment was Israel' "Life Blood".

      The rockets being fired by Hamas are a two pronged attack upon the economy of Israel.
      The first, and mot obvious, allen focused upon. That foreign investors would shun a country in the midst of a Civil War.

      The second prong is more obtuse, but just as real. Based upon the knowledge that Israel's reaction to the militarily ineffectual rocket attacks would be non-proportionate, would be overwhelming and murderous. As it has been.

      This will further strengthen and empower the international BDS movement, a campaign of boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) against Israel until it complies with international law and Palestinian rights.

      A truly global movement against Israeli Apartheid.
      Exemplified by the action of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), which decided to sell church stock in three companies whose products Israel uses in the occupied territories.

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    14. The USA is not in a similar set of circumstance.
      Its economic travails are not caused by a lack of investment capital, but by a global glut of labor production capacity and slow growing global consumption.


      A Supply Side Nightmare Scenario
      http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/a-supply-side-nightmare-scenario/

      The fall of the Iron and Bamboo curtains helped double the global labor supply, says Daniel Alpert in his new book, “The Age of Oversupply.”

      GM and Fiat/Dodge pay $3.20 per hour to auto workers in Mexico and are building new factorie in China, where the workers are paid even less.

      That is the real challenge to the US economy. Without well paid workers, there is no consumption. The consumer debt overhang which was built in the 1980's and onward is could/will crash as incomes continue to stagnate and/or collapse.

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    15. Its economic travails are not caused by a lack of investment capital, but by a global glut of labor AND production capacity and slow growing global consumption.

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    16. Israel provides invention and innovation…

      You provide jackshit...

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  23. For the hysterical among us: I really, really don't care. I comment on it only because everyone else is commenting on it.

    In my opinion, that turd does not have a "clean" end. I'm just about as interested in it as I was /am the Ireland brouhaha - in short, not at all.

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  24. "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against the country that murdered thirty-four US sailors, then blamed the sailors."

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    1. Well, I don't "like'em," but I'm not going to waste much time worrying about'em.

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    2. Your so called "god" is satan

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    3. Rufus,

      Make sure your phone, computer or your latest cancer therapy aint invented and made in ISRAEL

      Better you should die a painful death then disgrace yourself by using ZIONIST innovation and or invention

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  25. "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against the country that murdered thirty-four US sailors, then blamed the sailors."

    But not on the Islamoids who have murdered many more.

    And it shows.

    asshole

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    1. Jackass said: "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against the country that murdered thirty-four US sailors, then blamed the sailors."

      And yet he will be the 1st in line to BUY Israeli products…

      hypocrite

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  26. deuce: Sort of like those belligerent Jews that chose to fight and die rather than leave the Warsaw Ghetto just because superior armed German troops warned them to get out.


    Where do you get this shit?

    German troops put the leaving Jews on trains to the DEATH camps.

    Are you really this stupid?

    There is no comparison to the Gaza Strip and Warshaw ghetto.

    The Jews of the Warshaw Ghetto were not terrorists, they did not lobe thousands of rockets at the German civilians, they were locked into the ghetto, with roving bands of german execution squads. They were starved, they were deported to death camps.

    To insinuate otherwise shows that you have a poisoned soul.

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  27. Jack HawkinsWed Jul 16, 10:57:00 AM EDT
    The "Jewish" state is already dead.
    All that remains is a husk.

    Abortion, prostitution homosexuality all celebrated in "Jewish" Israel.

    Dead man walking





    Wow, Jack stands with Hamas… No hookers, abortion or gays there..

    So the truth comes out.

    Jack is a member of Hamas

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    1. No wonder his wife left him

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  28. "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against the country that murdered thirty-four US sailors, then blamed the sailors."

    Actually Israel apologized and paid reparations of it.

    But you keep to your fiction.

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  29. You boys keep focused on Jack Hawkins ...
    It will advance your cause, mightily.

    heh, heh, heh.

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    1. Hardly, you are barely a puss filled pimple on the ass of criminal....

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  30. Lt. Zonsheine has given his opinion. For doing so he will not be hunted down, shot on the street like a rabid dog, and hanged on a lamppost after being dragged through some town. That is one of the differences between Israel and Hamas.

    Today, Israeli-Arab MKs staged a little demonstration in parliament. They will not be hunted down, shot on the street like rabid dogs, and be hanged from lampposts after being dragged through the streets. That is another difference between Israel and Hamas. Yesterday, a Hamas official had to retreat back into Egypt after being attacked by a mob of Palestinians.

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    1. Israelis have the freedom to be morons. Even far leftists that advocate the dismantling of Israel are not murdered or hung...

      Now I remember, (fondly) the Palestinian Air Force that the Hamas launched when they took over the strip...

      Who KNEW that Fatah members, even if flapping their arms furiously, could not fly after being flung off of high rises in Gaza City...

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  31. "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts.
    If you have the law on your side, pound the law.
    If you have neither on your side, pound the table."


    The NASI are doing all they can, they are pounding the table

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  32. From these areas, rocket fire is being launched against the State of Israel. For your safety, you are requested to leave your homes immediately and travel towards Gaza City by Wednesday at 8 a.m. The IDF does not wish to harm you or your families. Clear the area to safeguard your lives. Do not return to the area until further notice. Anyone who does not heed these instructions… endangers his life and that of his family.

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    1. Actual verbiage on leaflets dropped on the north area of gaza.

      Just like the good german NAZIS warned the Jews of warsaw? Eh deuce....

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    2. The German did no need to drop leaflets, they just hired the Jews to do the deed.

      The first commander of the Warsaw ghetto was Józef Szeryński, a Polish-Jewish police colonel. He changed his name from Szenkman and developed an anti-Semitic attitude.

      In ghettos where the Judenrat was resistant to German orders, the Jewish police were often used (as reportedly in Lutsk) to control or replace the council.

      One of the largest police units was to be found in the Warsaw Ghetto, where the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst numbered about 2500. The Łódź Ghetto had about 1200, and the Lviv Ghetto 500.

      The Polish-Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum has described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians."



      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Ghetto_Police

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  33. What is "Occupation"Wed Jul 16, 12:40:00 PM EDT
    Are you really this stupid?


    That was a rhetorical question, I am sure; but, yes, they are.

    The JP is reporting the call-up of an additional 8,000 reservists. That brings the total to 56,000.

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    1. deuce: Sort of like those belligerent Jews that chose to fight and die rather than leave the Warsaw Ghetto just because superior armed German troops warned them to get out.

      It's amazing that that line could actually come out of the mouth of anyone

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    2. The first commander of the Warsaw ghetto was Józef Szeryński, a Polish-Jewish police colonel. He changed his name from Szenkman and developed an anti-Semitic attitude.

      In ghettos where the Judenrat was resistant to German orders, the Jewish police were often used (as reportedly in Lutsk) to control or replace the council.

      One of the largest police units was to be found in the Warsaw Ghetto, where the Jüdischer Ordnungsdienst numbered about 2500. The Łódź Ghetto had about 1200, and the Lviv Ghetto 500.

      The Polish-Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum has described the cruelty of the ghetto police as "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians."



      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Ghetto_Police

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  34. What is "Occupation"Wed Jul 16, 01:11:00 PM EDT
    Who KNEW that Fatah members, even if flapping their arms furiously, could not fly after being flung off of high rises in Gaza City...


    "I wanna be an airborne ranger..." :-)

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  35. In some twenty cases, soldiers of Jewish descent were decorated with the Ritterkreuz, one of the highest awards of merit in the German army. ...

    Fully documented, Before Hitler Came lays bare the biggest secret behind antisemitic movements, namely that they were started by Jews themselves. As Austrian writer Rudolf Kommoss warned the world: “Should there arise a party led by anti-Semite Jews or half-Jews, we will have to watch out!”

    http://firstlightforum.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/zionists-collaborate-with-hitler-to-squeeze-the-lesser-jews-into-palestine



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  36. ... the “Stern Gang,” among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the “Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.”
    Avraham Stern and his followers announced that

    “The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:
    1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

    2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,

    3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East.

    Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively take part in the war on Germany’s side.”

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/23/51-documents/

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  37. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/why-israel-winning-war_796632.html
    Why Israel Is Winning This War


    ...one of the most ill-conceived essays I've ever read...

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  38. (Reuters) - Israeli shelling killed four boys on a Gaza beach on Wednesday, a local health official said, and Palestinian militants fired a further 70 rockets into Israel after a failed Egyptian attempt to halt more than a week of warfare.

    Israel urged the evacuation of several districts in the Gaza Strip where more than 100,000 people live, threatening ground operations to try to stem the rocket attacks.

    An Israeli official said the defence minister asked Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's security cabinet to authorise the mobilisation of another 8,000 reserve troops. The military has said that around 30,000 reservists have been called up since the Israeli offensive began a week ago.

    Israeli experts predicted overland raids in the Gaza Strip to destroy command bunkers and tunnels that have allowed the outgunned Palestinians to withstand air and naval barrages and keep the rockets flying.

    The Hamas political leadership formally rejected Cairo's ceasefire plan on Wednesday, a spokesman for the Islamist group said, a day after its armed wing spurned it and kept up rocket salvoes at Israel, which held its fire for six hours on Tuesday.

    Ashraf al-Qidra of the Gaza Health Ministry said shelling from an Israeli gunboat off Gaza's Mediterranean coast killed four boys - two aged 10 and the others 9 and 11 - from one family and critically wounded another youngster on the beach.

    An Israeli military spokesman had no immediate comment. Netanyahu says the armed forces try to avoid civilian casualties but that militant rocket crews deliberately put non-combatants at risk by operating in densely populated residential areas.

    Ahmed Abu Hassera, who witnessed the incident at the shore, told Reuters: "The kids were playing on the beach. They were all ... under the age of 15."

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  39. Foreign correspondents reporting from Gaza on Wednesday offered visceral accounts of a deadly attack that killed four children on the beach outside a hotel in which the journalists were staying.

    Several reporters, including Jonathan Miller of Britain’s Channel 4 News, Ayman Mohyeldin of NBC News and Peter Beaumont of The Guardian, described the immediate aftermath of the shelling in text accounts and images uploaded to Twitter, even as they tried to help three other boys wounded in the barrage.

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    1. What no news reports about the palestinian kids killed in Syria?

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  40. The retaining wall of Gaza’s harbor sticks out into the Mediterranean about 100 metres from the terrace of al-Deira hotel, base to many of the journalists covering the conflict in Gaza. The first of the artillery shells came in a little after 4pm on Wednesday as I was writing on the hotel’s terrace.

    There is a deafening explosion as it hits a structure on the pier, a place we have seen hit before, where fishermen usually store their nets. Behind the smoke, I see four figures running, silhouettes whose legs are pumping raggedly. They clear the smoke. From their size it is clear they are a man and three young boys.

    Where the harbour wall ends and the beach starts, there are a few brightly coloured tents and chairs for beach users in more peaceful times. The four figures jump on to the beach and begin running towards us and the safety of the hotel.

    Only afterwards do we discover there are four others who are dead, all children, lying on the wall. I am shown a picture of one of the dead boys, his skin scorched and bruised. Their names are released later: Ahed Bakr, aged 10; Zakaria, 10; and two other boys from the Bakr family, both named Mohammad, aged 11 and nine.

    The second shell catches the survivors as they reach the brightly coloured tents. As it explodes, my colleagues, now standing by the terrace wall, shout at unseen Israeli gunners who can't hear them: "They are only children."

    The man makes it to the terrace first, scrambling up a steep sandy bank. A skinny man in his 30s, he groans and holds up a T-shirt already staining red with blood where he has been hit in the stomach. He faints, and as he grows pale and limp he is carried to a taxi waved down in the street.

    {...}

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  41. {...}

    The children are brought up next. Pulling up the T-shirt of the first boy, who looks about eight years old, we find a shrapnel hole, small and round as a pencil head, where he has been hit in the chest over the second rib. Another boy, a brother or cousin, who is uninjured, slumps by the wall of the terrace, weeping by his side.

    The boy cries in pain as we clean and dress the wound, wrapping a field dressing around his chest, pressing to staunch the bleeding. He winces in pain, and he is clearly embarrassed too as a colleague checks his shorts to look for unseen femoral bleeding.

    A waiter grabs a table cloth to use as a stretcher, but a photographer takes the boy in his arms to carry him to the ambulance that has arrived.

    Other colleagues work on the final surviving casualty, an older boy. His arms are scuffed, and a bandage around his head barely staunches a head wound. He too is quickly carried to the ambulance.

    In less than 10 minutes it is over. Even the smoke on the pier has died away, save for a last few drifting wisps.

    OOrah Motherfuckers

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    1. No concern about the Israeli civilians that are injured or killed?

      Maybe if Hamas stopped targeting civilians you'd have a chance for peace.

      Oh yeah, you believe Hamas has a right to kidnap Israelis, and shoot rockets.

      Well sparky, war is hell, and Hamas owns it.

      Notice how NO arab nation is doing anything for Hamas, in fact? Most are cheering Israel ON..

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  42. BREAKING NEWS: Number of people in UNRWA shelters in #Gaza rises: there are 22,000 in 24 shelters, 18 in Gaza City, 6 in Jabalia (north) RT

    — Chris Gunness (@ChrisGunness) July 16, 2014
    The health crisis in Gaza may soon be exacerbated by crippling shortages of safe water, as the UN fears.

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    1. There will be several hundred thousand more very soon...

      I guess Hamas wants to keep firing rockets instead of worrying about it's people.

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  43. Let them drink Sodastream

    Repeated bombing of fragile water infrastructure may soon leave entire population of #Gaza desperately short of water http://t.co/iAFNKhLNtu

    — UNRWA USA (@unrwausa) July 16, 2014

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    1. Not to worry, Egypt shares a huge border with Gaza and can supply all they need

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    2. It was part of Egypt, until Israeli Zionists tried to steal it.
      They are still trying.

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  44. Basman Alashi has meanwhile told the Equal Times about problems at al-Wafa hospital, which was hit by an air strike blast earlier Wednesday. From the report:

    “Two weeks before the war we felt the shortage of medications from the market,” said Basman Alashi, 57, who is the director of the al-Wafa orthopaedic hospital, also in Gaza.

    “We have supplies of medications for two weeks more. After we will have to ask the United Nations Relief and Works Agency or the World Health Organisation to supply us." Alashi noted the hospital needs 127 listed medicines which are currently banned from import.

    Today 80% of Palestinians in Gaza receive food aid. In the past year alone, prices have increased 300%, according to a recent report. Like his fellow employees at al-Shifa, Dr Sheikh hasn’t been paid in two months.

    Yet he has worked around the clock in recent weeks, even sleeping at the hospital. “We are doing are best. We cannot compromise, but we need support,” he said.

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    1. Today 80% of Palestinians in Gaza receive food aid. In the past year alone, prices have increased 300%,

      If 80% get free food who cares what the prices are...

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    2. They are receiving food aid as the convicts are at Trenton State Penitentiary. That is what happens in prisons and apartheid enclaves.

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    3. Tell it to the egyptians. they share a border with gaza...

      or did you forget?

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    4. I guess you have never walked the well stocked markets of gaza, or swam in their olympic sized swimming pools..

      The photos of the mansions of gaza are quite amazing.,

      Just google mansions of gaza and use your eyes...

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  45. All courtesy of our indispensable ally and strategic asset, the irreplaceable gift from God.

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  46. I’m sure some motherfucker has it so written on something somewhere.

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  47. Israel isn’t finished with the Palestinians yet, and won’t be until it can coerce them all to leave. That is Israeli SOP.

    Please don’t be anti-Semitic and take notice.

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    1. Gaza needs to be scrubbed of Hamas and the Islamists. I suggest they be deported to Philadelphia.

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    2. Too cold. Send them to Phoenix. I'm sure they'll along well with the Mexican Catholics there.

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    3. Have your Jewish lawyer draw up the papers and your Hindu niece explain them to your dumb Christian ass,

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    4. Sold my alfalfa to the U of I Farm.

      They are becoming my steady customer.

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  48. The UN estimates 75% of Palestinian fatalities are civilians and more than 1,300 residential structures have been “rendered uninhabitable”, by Israeli strikes, with 710 destroyed and an additional 660 severely damaged.

    With updated figures based on Tuesday reports, the UNRWA has released a report (pdf), which goes on to list thousands of people displaced, hundreds of thousands at risk of losing access to water, and the dozens of UN facilities damaged.

    Rolling reports from UN representatives, however, show that some of the figures are already outdated: some 22,000 people have been displaced, and 220 Palestinians have been killed.

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    1. 1300 residential structures housed rockets….


      Israel has been reported to have taken out 1000 rockets, Hamas has shot off 1000 rockets and hamas still has 6-7,000 THOUSAND rockets hidden in the Gaza Strip

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    2. 22,000 people have been displaced, and 220 Palestinians have been killed.

      In syria 7-8 MILLON are displaced and 180,000 are dead…

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    3. I got cussed out by Quirk for wondering out load if maybe some NATO troops, US troops, UN troops might not be able to keep the warring parties apart until the divorce decree is signed.

      At that time the dead totaled a little less than 100,000.

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  49. The Bard of MurdockWed Jul 16, 02:59:00 PM EDT

    Conflict. That's one word for mass murder of civilians you've imprisoned from the land you've occupied, using your massive military resources against people with no armed forces. Can’t understand why they may feel inclined to do their best to resist. This is a pathetic attempt to absolve themselves of blame for murdering civilians in what appears to be a planned mass-demolition of homes in Gaza. If Hamas was sending text messages and flyers to people all over Israel urging them to flee otherwise they would be killed, would anyone be sitting here pretending Hamas are kind humanitarians who don't want to destroy Israel?

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    1. Hamas doesn't seem to care much who their rockets hit, as long as it's someone over there, that way.

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  50. The Bard of MurdockWed Jul 16, 03:03:00 PM EDT

    Meant to say “scrubbing” ...one word for mass murder of civilians....

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    1. Mass murder of civilians?

      Look to syria…..

      Israel has struck almost 1500 targets.

      To kill 200 people in a war with 1500 airstrikes? hardly classifies as "mass murder"

      It's sad, it's tragic, but Israelis aint handing out candy on street corners like the palestinians do when they learn a jew was killed

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  51. This issue certainly gets people riled up.

    It's all the King of Jordon's fault.

    Didn't he kick the lot of them out of his country?

    Maybe they should be sent back there instead of Phoenix.

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  52. Saudi Arabia didn't want them, Egypt doesn't want them, Jordon didn't want them.......Gaza is it's own problem now........their elected government should teach us that democracy is not an answer to all political problems, but we already knew that......maybe what they need is a King who has fancy digs and wants to keep it that way.......they might be better off......

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  53. American Lady Ninja - The Mighty Kacy

    http://hotair.com/archives/2014/07/16/video-the-lady-ninja/

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  54. World's first thorium reactor ready to be built for cheaper, safer nuclear energy

    In...India

    http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/129913-world-s-first-thorium-reactor-ready-to-be-built-for-cheaper-safer-nuclear-energy



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    Plans for a thorium nuclear reactor have been finished meaning the world's first should be built by 2016.

    Unlike current nuclear power stations, that use uranium, the thorium plant won't use a material that can be weaponised. It would also mean there is much less danger from a meltdown. Thorium is also more abundant than uranium so it will be cheaper and easier to supply.

    The safer material means it can be supplied at a lower cost with far fewer security needs. Security measures are actually the most expensive part about building current nuclear power stations. Thorium reactors, on the other hand, don't require special containment buildings and can even be set up in normal structures.

    The proposed thorium reactor is made to run by itself without any need for intervention. It will only need to be checked by a person once every four months.

    The plan is to build a 300MW reactor by 2016, which should have a runtime life of 100 years. India's Thorium Energy Program, which is behind the system, aims to expand from the prototype so that 30 per cent of India's energy comes from Thorium reactors by 2050.

    Since thorium reactors are far safer than current nuclear reactors there has been talk of minaturising them so a $1000 unit could power a ten house street for a lifetime. While that sounds exciting the reality is still a long way off.

    ......

    Sounds a lot better than some of the schemes I've seen touted around here.

    I certainly hope it works as advertised.

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  55. Deuce ☂Wed Jul 16, 02:00:00 PM EDT
    (Reuters) - Israeli shelling killed four boys on a Gaza beach on Wednesday, a local health official said, and Palestinian militants fired a further 70 rockets into Israel after a failed Egyptian attempt to halt more than a week of warfare.


    Any PROOF it was Israel and not a Palestinian shell that killed the boys?

    After all the Palestinian have hit gaza 38 times so far alone, knocking out power lines 2 times, hitting bethlehem and hebron in the west bank as well...

    Seems it would be the definition of IRONY if it was Hamas's own shells that killed the boys..

    But Deuce don't need no stinking proof...

    The Jews did it...

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    1. The Zionists murdered 252 Jewish refugees on board the "Patra"

      If they would murder Jews, they'd murder anyone.
      And have.

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    2. Why have they not murdered you? Abbas? Assad?

      Maybe because you are full of shit Jack?

      Jackshit, Ratcrapper... by any other name a supporter of the Hamas.

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    3. Because"O"rdure, unlike the passengers of the "Patra" or the 1,500 Palestinian children killed since the turn of the century by the NASI of Israel, I have guns and know how to ue them.

      The Mossad and the IDF specialize in killing the unarmed, like the crew of the USS Liberty..

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    4. I have guns and know how to use them.

      Arabfat was an agent of the Israeli. He was allied with the, part of a symbiotic relationship.

      Assad, the Israeli, their agents and proxies have tried to kill him, but he has guns, too.
      He can fight back, and has been doing so.

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    5. Arabfat was an agent of the Israeli. He was allied with them, part of a symbiotic relationship.

      Delete
    6. So Jack, you admitted you used to kill civilians in Central America, does that mean you are possibly the killer of those palestinians too?

      Delete
    7. Document that claim, I never admitted such a thing.
      You are a liar.

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    8. But who are you Jack? Are you Rat or Jack, or Farmer Rob?

      no the man behind the mask is the killer...

      who we all KNOW...

      LOL

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  56. Thorium: Energy Savior or Red Herring?

    ... the cost of renewable alternatives like solar and wind may come down to a point where thorium reactors won’t be economical. Critics also point out that the nuclear industry has invested too much in uranium reactors – along with government buy-in and a set of regulations around them – to be supplanted by thorium.

    As for the “green nuclear” argument, thorium's detractors say that isn't necessarily the case. While thorium reactors produce less waste, they also produce other radioactive by-products that will need safe disposal, including U-232, which has a half-life of 160,000 years.

    “It will create a whole new volume of radioactive waste from previously radio-inert thorium, on top of the waste from uranium reactors. Looked at in these terms, it's a way of multiplying the volume of radioactive waste humanity can create several times over,” said Oliver Tickell, author of Kyoto2, speaking to The Guardian.

    Will thorium be a fool's errand or the fuel that heralds the dawn of a new age of nuclear power? It is certainly too early to say, but one thing is for sure: thorium has great potential and with the right backers, could become a viable adjunct to uranium, if not a serious competitor.


    http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Thorium-Energy-Savior-or-Red-Herring.html

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  57. I often hear the propaganda term 'Israeli apartheid state' bandied about here like a mantra.

    Here is the real thing -

    http://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

    On the Destruction of Israel:

    -----------------------------

    'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

    obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' (Preamble)



    The Exclusive Moslem Nature of the Area:

    ----------------------------------------

    'The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession]

    consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one

    can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it.'

    (Article 11)



    'Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the

    Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem

    wherever he may be.' (Article 13)



    The Call to Jihad:

    ------------------

    'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the

    individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,

    it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)



    'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses

    everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the

    call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will

    reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is

    achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'

    (Article 33)



    Rejection of a Negotiated Peace Settlement:

    -------------------------------------------

    '[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and

    international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of

    the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than

    a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of

    Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by

    Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a

    waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)



    Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

    and on and on and on

    So that's real apartheid. The Jews will be in The Other World, and the Hamas in this one.

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    1. The whole issue is so 'explosive' that even the normally laid back, placid Rufus seems nearly ready to bestir himself and sacrifice his entire family for the Gazans and Hamas, and he's not even there.

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  58. Obama executive actions seen as threat to Constitution

    "“What we are witnessing today is one of the greatest challenges to our constitutional system in the history of this country,” Mr. Turley said in a prepared testimony, saying it began with previous presidents but under Mr. Obama has “reached a constitutional tipping point that threatens a fundamental change in how our country is governed.”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/15/obama-executive-actions-seen-as-threat-to-constitu/#ixzz37fR56KDy

    Jonathan Turley, Rightwing Wingnut

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    1. Boehner could move forward with Articles of Impeachment, instead he i bringing a Law Suit.

      Enough said as to the threat to the Constitution.
      The House of Representatives does not see it.

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    2. .

      Last I heard, Boehner was talking restricting himself to merely citing Obama's actions on Obamacare as basis of the suit. I think that is a big mistake. IMO, if he is going to do it (still a question) he should skip the small ball and go expansive and list every instance where Obama has overstepped his authority thus building the case for a pattern of misconduct.

      Impeachment requires 'high crimes and misdemeanors'. Abuse of the constitutional prescribed separations of power is a political issue and I am not sure if the definition of 'high crimes and misdemeanors' fits or not.

      It is a shame Obama can't be tried for felony incompetence. I have mentioned before that every department in the Obama administration that I could think of has been involved in one scandal or another. I was reminded the other day that my list was not exhaustive when the CDC was brought into the loop, leaving anthrax containers in unlocked containers in hallways and carrying around deadly specimens in ziplock baggies.

      Add to that the contagion of crashing hard drives that tend to go bump in the night at any hint of a Congressional hearing, first at the IRS and now at the FEC.

      One could get writer's cramp listing all the scandals and crisis this administration is or has been going through since the first of the year.

      .

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    3. Scandals, come, scandals go ....

      High Crimes and Misdemeanors are all that matter.

      The Supremes will not take a "Broad Brush" approach.
      Boner is blowing smoke, he has nothing but a series of photo opportunities.

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  59. Don't believe thorium nuclear reactor hype

    Thorium reactors are the latest big thing in nuclear spin. Noel Wauchope says: don't believe the hype.
    ...
    Thorium reactors, like all things nuclear, have challenging regulatory and funding requirements.

    Which brings us to the economics of thorium reactors.

    They are promoted as small reactors. The makers have to have contracts for thousands before they can afford to start! Significant and expensive testing, analysis and licensing work is required first, requiring extensive business and government support.

    The fuel cycle is more costly and the needed protections for workers, plant safety and the public are considerably more than for existing fuels. Compared to uranium, the thorium fuel cycle is likely to be even more costly. In a once-through mode, it will need both uranium enrichment (or plutonium separation) and thorium target rod production. In a breeder configuration, it will need reprocessing, which is costly.

    As Dr Peter Karamoskos says:

    Without exception, [thorium reactors] have never been commercially viable, nor do any of the intended new designs even remotely seem to be viable. Like all nuclear power production they rely on extensive taxpayer subsidies; the only difference is that with thorium and other breeder reactors these are of an order of magnitude greater, which is why no government has ever continued their funding.



    http://www.independentaustralia.net/environment/environment-display/dont-believe-thorium-nuclear-reactor-hype,4919

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    1. For instance, you may hear advocates of thorium claim: "Thorium reactorscreate no weapons proliferation hazard."

      But in fact:

      There is just no way to avoid proliferation problems associated with thorium fuel cycles that involve reprocessing. Thorium fuel cycles without reprocessing would offer the same temptation to reprocess as today’s once-through uranium fuel cycles. (Thorium Fuel: No Panacea for Nuclear Power)

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  60. If thorium reactors work well they will be accepted, if not, and are too expense they will be scuttled.

    It all comes down to the holy rupee.

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  61. People have been messing around with Thorium since, I don't know, the 50's? the 60's?

    I'm a little skeptical.

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  62. Now comes a new paper from Dean Lacy of Dartmouth College, which aims to answer the question of whether the "takers" do indeed vote Democratic no matter what. The short answer is a qualified 'no': "benefiting from government spending has no effect on the probability of voting for Obama among voters under the age of 65," he writes. Not only that, but voters in states that are net beneficiaries of federal spending were less likely to vote Obama: "A one-dollar increase in federal spending per tax dollar—moving from Ohio’s ratio of 1.0 to North Dakota’s ratio of 2.0—is associated with a .13 decrease in a voter’s probability of voting for Obama."

    Takers, Bakers, Makers - don't matter

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  63. .

    Bob OreilleWed Jul 16, 04:02:00 PM EDT

    I got cussed out by Quirk for wondering out load if maybe some NATO troops, US troops, UN troops might not be able to keep the warring parties apart until the divorce decree is signed.

    At that time the dead totaled a little less than 100,000.


    As if Assad would have willingly allowed any NATO/US/UN troops in at the time. The only side that would welcome NATO/US/UN troops would be the side that was losing.

    What's the latest count 160,000 dead or so? Under you scenario, it would likely have been 161,000 when you count in the 1000 or so NATO/US/UN dead.

    .

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    1. Just as the Palestinians asked for NATO/UN troops and Bibi said ...
      NO WAY!

      The Brave Soldiers of the IDF

      "I will never gamble with the security of the one and only Jewish state,"
      "The only force that can defend it is its own army –
      – the brave soldiers of the IDF."

      - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

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    2. .

      Sadly, Bob Orwellian, vexes me at times.

      :-)

      .

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    3. If you give hum any credence you go right down the rabbit hole with him.

      Delete

  64. Israel has to end its blockade and respect Arab rights

    It is with shock, dismay and profound concern for the future that we have watched Israel carry out its third military assault on Gaza in six years. The aerial bombardment of one of the world’s most densely populated areas has inevitably caused not only a high number of civilian deaths and injuries, but severe psychological trauma. How can we expect the children exposed to the violent deaths of family and friends and the destruction of their homes to forgive not only their neighbours but also the world powers who did nothing to defend them?

    As Jews we are appalled by the actions of a government that falsely claims to act in our collective name.
    A ceasefire will end the current round of hostilities but that is only the first step. The recurrent cycles of violence and suffering will continue and intensify as long as Israel maintains a virtual blockade over Gaza and continues to rule over 2.5m Palestinian Arabs in the West Bank, with little regard for human rights. It is time to insist on an immediate halt to settlement expansion together with all discriminatory policies and the start of a process to end both the blockade and the occupation.

    Lady Ellen Dahrendorf,

    Sir Geoffrey Bindman QC,

    Prof Jacqueline Rose,

    Prof Lynne Segal,

    Prof Donald Sassoon,

    Prof Adam Fagan,

    Dr Anthony Isaacs,

    Emma Clyne,

    Merav Pinchassoff,

    Ann Jungman,

    Henry Stewart for Independent Jewish Voices Steering Group, London NW3, UK


    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/419831b4-0ce9-11e4-bf1e-00144feabdc0.html

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  65. Our in house KILLER Jack says:

    Jack HawkinsWed Jul 16, 05:33:00 PM EDT
    Because"O"rdure, unlike the passengers of the "Patra" or the 1,500 Palestinian children killed since the turn of the century by the NASI of Israel, I have guns and know how to ue them.


    oh, we are soooo scared... Jack has guns... Jack smokes pot... Jack rides horses.. Jack is sooooo tuff....

    Is that what you say when you go to the Scottsdale Gay bars looking for some meat?

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    1. Ride em cowboy... He has GUNS and he knows how to use them....

      LOL

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    2. One by one, the Jews of Europe are publicly disowning Israel, publicly disowning Zionism.
      One by one the edifice of lies is coming down

      "O"rdure is focused upon Jack Hawkins

      Yee Haw !

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    3. Keep your eye on the prize ..

      Keep your eyes on Jack Hawkins, that's the ticket!

      Delete
    4. We already KNOW who you are...

      As for the Jews of Europe? Moving to Israel in record numbers...

      The good news? Pro-Israel feelings keep rising.

      The more your type speak? The more we understand why WE NEED GUNS and KNOW how to use them..

      Yee Haw...

      update jack, we aint going to apologize for killing those that try to kill us... So if and when you go trying to find a Jew to kill? he (or she) might just shoot you...

      Remember your death threats have already been reported to the AZ FBI....

      and we KNOW who you are...

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  66. Hex vex
    Ya can't have sex
    The fat begins to fry
    No matter how
    Hard you try
    Vex hex
    Ya can't have sex
    Again


    hehehahahhahaardeharharspitspitspit

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  67. What is "Occupation"Wed Jul 16, 07:30:00 PM EDT
    Our in house KILLER Jack says:


    He is addicted to this blog and has little time for anything else. It has become his entire reason for living. Check out his hours spent at the keyboard. He is a lonely old man.

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