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Monday, September 02, 2013

This photo of Obama on the phone with Biden chewing on his hands bothered me when I first saw it. It is so unnatural and affected. Obama is pissing his pants. He is jumping out of his skin. He is frightened and does not know how to step down.


156 comments:

  1. You know that Obama is desperate if he is latching onto that ridiculous old fool John Abbadabba McCain.

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    1. Big John and the President, shoulder to shoulder, standing up for the United States.

      Abbadabba John, that's funny, I don't care who you are.

      Gotta love it.


      Abbadabba McCain

      ;-)

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    2. Simplest explanation is that Obama is insane and coming apart at the seams.

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    3. From Previous Thread:

      "When Obama orders the "Poo Poo Platter," they bring him McCain and Lindsey."

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  2. MOSCOW President Vladimir Putin hopes to send a delegation of Russian lawmakers to the United States to discuss the situation in Syria with members of Congress, the Interfax news agency reported Monday.

    Russian legislators Valentina Matvienko and Sergei Naryshkin proposed that to Putin, saying polls have shown little support among Americans for armed intervention in Syria to punish President Bashar Assad's regime for an alleged chemical weapons attack.

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  3. In what is being reported as a surprise move, the 40,000 members of the International Longshore and Warehouse Union (ILWU) announced that they have formally ended their association with the AFL-CIO, one of the nation’s largest private sector unions. The Longshoremen citied Obamacare and immigration reform as two important causes of their disaffiliation.


    In an August 29 letter to AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, ILWU President Robert McEllrath cited quite a list of grievances as reasons for the dissolution of their affiliation, but prominent among them was the AFL-CIO’s support of Obamacare.

    “We feel the Federation has done a great disservice to the labor movement and all working people by going along to get along," McEllrath wrote in the letter to Trumka.

    The ILWU President made it clear they are for a single-payer, nationalized healthcare policy and are upset with the AFL-CIO for going along with Obama on the confiscatory tax on their “Cadillac" healthcare plan.

    The Longshoreman leader said, "President Obama ran on a platform that he would not tax medical plans and at the 2009 AFL-CIO Convention, you stated that labor would not stand for a tax on our benefits." But, regardless of that promise, the President has pushed for just such a tax and Trumka and the AFL-CIO bowed to political pressure lining up behind Obama’s tax on those plans.

    McEllrath also went on to say that they support stronger immigration reform than the AFL-CIO is supporting.

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    1. Trouble in paradise, because Obamacare isn't socialist enough. They want the rich to pony up 100%.

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  4. EXCLUSIVE ‘We’re tired of wars’ - Nigel Farage explains why we MUST resist striking Syria

    THE shadow of the Iraq conflict should loom long over MPs as they vote on military intervention in Syria tomorrow.

    By: Nigel Farage MEPPublished: Thu, August 29, 2013

    Back then we were told of the “definite proof” of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), of the horrors that Saddam wrought on his people and that regime change would bring peace and prosperity to the people of that country.

    We have been in Afghanistan longer than the First and Second World Wars combined and yet what have we actually achieved?

    The price we have paid is considerable: not just the billions of pounds spent, but the price in blood of the hundreds of British soldiers killed and maimed fighting thousands of miles away from the country they signed up to defend.

    Ukip has been consistent in its opposition to military intervention in foreign wars over the last decade and this latest debate on Syria is no different.

    For while we naturally oppose the use of chemical weapons on an innocent population, this is not our war. There are huge consequences to military action which MPs must consider properly.

    What is the objective of any attacks? What is the entry and exit strategy - and most importantly, what are the potential repercussions?

    The Americans have insisted these strikes would be a “rap on the knuckles” for the chemical attacks, but however “surgical” our attacks might be, there is nothing stopping Syrian president Bashar al-Assad retaliating.

    Unlike Saddam Hussein, the current Syrian regime is far from friendless in the region.

    There is a three-pronged alliance in the region of Iran, Russia and Syria and what we must avoid is ideological political disagreements being fought under the guise of a civil war in Syria.

    We may have control of whether we intervene or not but once we have become involved, the control is gone. We are a country with a huge national debt, unable to balance our yearly budgets and with pitiful economic growth.

    Why are our MPs prepared to spend millions on a conflict when we have yet to see the proof that the chemical attacks on the Syrian people were definitely done by Assad’s regime?

    If we are to spend money in this area I would rather our foreign aid budget is redirected to ensure we ease the suffering of civilians by assisting the refugees in Jordan, Turkey and Lebanon.

    The Government has stated it has proof these attacks were done by Assad, so in which case instead of rushing this country into military action, why are they not trying to continue the diplomatic route, showing Russia and China this evidence?

    Diplomacy and the UN have not been exhausted by any means and just as with Iraq, there is no mandate from the Security Council or the weapons inspectors.

    Syria Free Army fighters in position this week, but Mr Farage asks 'Who are they really?'

    The question which is also key to Ukip’s opposition to our involvement has also not been answered: who are the rebels?

    Aren’t we risking arming and training militants who are as opposed to our ways of life as they are to Assad?

    We know there are Islamic extremists in the ranks of the rebels and I am adamant that we must not become involved in yet another military operation that will risk the lives of British troops and the safety and security of British interests at home and abroad.

    We are a country tired of fighting wars that have nothing to do with us.

    MPs must listen to the people who have stated they are opposed to our involvement in Syria. Ukip says no to war and the polls show the people are, too.

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    1. Is it ...

      Hear, Hear!
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      Here, Here!

      I've wondered while watching CSPAN

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    2. It's hear here you moron.

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  5. Will Congress Endorse Obama’s War Plans? Does it Matter?

    By Ron Paul
    The Ron Paul Institute
    September 2, 2013

    President Obama announced this weekend that he has decided to use military force against Syria and would seek authorization from Congress when it returned from its August break. Every Member ought to vote against this reckless and immoral use of the US military. But even if every single Member and Senator votes for another war, it will not make this terrible idea any better because some sort of nod is given to the Constitution along the way.

    Besides, the president made it clear that Congressional authorization is superfluous, asserting falsely that he has the authority to act on his own with or without Congress. That Congress allows itself to be treated as window dressing by the imperial president is just astonishing.

    The President on Saturday claimed that the alleged chemical attack in Syria on August 21 presented “a serious danger to our national security.”

    I disagree with the idea that every conflict, every dictator, and every insurgency everywhere in the world is somehow critical to our national security. That is the thinking of an empire, not a republic. It is the kind of thinking that this president shares with his predecessor and it is bankrupting us and destroying our liberties here at home. According to recent media reports, the military does not have enough money to attack Syria and would have to go to Congress for a supplemental appropriation to carry out the strikes. It seems our empire is at the end of its financial rope.

    The limited strikes that the president has called for in Syria would cost the US in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey wrote to Congress last month that just the training of Syrian rebels and “limited” missile and air strikes would cost “in the billions” of dollars. We should clearly understand what another war will do to the US economy, not to mention the effects of additional unknown costs such as a spike in fuel costs as oil skyrockets.

    I agree that any chemical attack, particularly one that kills civilians, is horrible and horrendous. All deaths in war and violence are terrible and should be condemned. But why are a few hundred killed by chemical attack any worse or more deserving of US bombs than the 100,000 already killed in the conflict?

    Why do these few hundred allegedly killed by Assad count any more than the estimated 1,000 Christians in Syria killed by US allies on the other side?

    Why is it any worse to be killed by poison gas than to have your head chopped off by the US allied radical Islamists, as has happened to a number of Christian priests and bishops in Syria? For that matter, why are the few hundred civilians killed in Syria by a chemical weapon any worse than the 2000-3000 who have been killed by Obama’s drone strikes in Pakistan? Does it really make a difference whether a civilian is killed by poison gas or by drone missile or dull knife?

    In “The Sociology of Imperialism,” Joseph Schumpeter wrote of the Roman Empire’s suicidal interventionism:

    “There was no corner of the known world where some interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those of Rome’s allies; and if Rome had no allies, then allies would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to contrive an interest – why, then it was the national honour that had been insulted.”

    Sadly, this sounds like a summary of Obama’s speech over the weekend. We are rapidly headed for the same collapse as the Roman Empire if we continue down the president’s war path. What we desperately need is an overwhelming Congressional rejection of the president’s war authorization. Even a favorable vote, however, cannot change the fact that this is a self-destructive and immoral policy.

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  6. Does anyone have any idea if all the embassies and consulates are still closed?

    There were about twenty and the slamdunkingmotherfuckers who saw the intelligence told us this was some real bad shit. The intelligence was very compelling. What happened?

    Did we miss a payroll for our allies, al Qaeda, in Syria?

    Was al Qaeda pissed that they did not receive an opt-out from Obamacare and threatening to go US postal?

    Did someone re-release the video that really frosted their ass when they fucked-up Benghazi?

    Was al Qaeda cut out of the Dream Act?

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  7. Damn. Obama must have found out that he is 1/32 Jewish. He has Biden running around desperately seeking a mohel .


    Jewish leaders wary as White House seeks support for Syria vote in Congress

    The administration launched its outreach efforts amidst widespread Jewish concerns about taking sides or playing a prominent role in Syria debate: Rosh Hashanah is a good excuse to stall.

    By Chemi Shalev | Sep. 2, 2013 | 11:05 PM |


    The U.S. administration has launched an outreach campaign to convince American Jewish leaders and their organizations to support President Obama’s efforts to win Congressional support for a military operation in Syria – but the leaders are wary of joining the fray.

    Despite the Labor Day weekend, senior White House and administration officials have initiated phone calls with several Jewish figures to reiterate the messages issued by Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry in recent days concerning the centrality of Israel to the administration’s concerns in Syria – and to ask for their public and political support.

    Obama and Kerry have emphasized that the proposed operation is crucial to prevent the danger of chemical weapons attacks on Israel and to deter Hezbollah and Iran. “I don't think they will want to vote, ultimately, to put Israel at risk,” Kerry has said of the American lawmakers.

    Kerry has also played to Jewish sensitivities by repeatedly comparing the current situation in Syria to World War II Europe, President Bashar Assad to Adolf Hitler and government inaction towards atrocities then – and, implicitly, passivity of the Jewish community – to the opposition to an operation in Syria now.

    Administration sources told The New York Times on Monday that “the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC was already at work pressing for military action against Assad,” but sources in the Jewish community said they thought that was premature. The sources expressed concern Monday about the centrality of Israel and its interests being placed by the Administration in the emerging public and political debate. Israel and its supporters, one leader said, “are stuck between a rock and a hard place and mired in a lose-lose situation.”

    “If Jewish organizations and the pro-Israel lobby campaign openly in favor of the administration,” he said, “they will upset Republican critics of Obama. If they stay out of it and Obama is defeated the administration will never forgive or forget.”

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  8. Biden's Contemplating Presidential Succession and Re-Election.

    He didn't buy those plugs for nuthin.

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    3. Mr. Obama, in his Rose Garden statement on Saturday, still insisted he has the authority to strike Syria without congressional approval. So what happens if Congress votes down a use-of-force resolution? Does the president strike Syria anyway? If so, will it be an evanescent bombing, intended to be limited in scope and duration, while doing nothing to change the war’s balance of power? Or does the president completely back down? Does he even know? Has he thought through in advance anything related to Syria? Or is this a case of Obama simply making it up as he goes along?

    This latest volte-face by the president is evidence of a man who is completely overmatched by events, weak and confused, and deeply ambivalent about using force. Yet he’s also desperate to get out of the corner he painted himself into by declaring that the use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime would constitute a “red line.” As a result he’s gone all Hamlet on us. Not surprisingly, Obama’s actions are being mocked by America’s enemies and sowing doubt among our allies. (Read this New York Times story for more.)

    What explains this debacle? It’s impossible for us to know all the reasons, but one explanation appears to be a CYA operation...



    It appears to be obvious to everyone but the slappies at the WaPO and NYT.


    Rarely has an American president joined so much cynicism with so much ineptitude.


    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/09/02/barack-obamas-staggering-incompetence/

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    1. Even tho his ineptitude astounds, he's still able to cover his skinny butt w/one hand.

      If he tries it from that position on the desk tho, he'll land flat on his face.

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      Then we need to pick him up and dust him off. He is the only president we have. Ask Bill Kristol.

      Shut up and start the bombing, they explained.

      Republicans should support some version of the authorization of force resolution. They should do so even if they think that the President’s policy will prove ineffective, do no good, waste money, or entail unforeseen risks; they should do so even if they think he has gotten the nation into this situation by blunders, fecklessness, arrogance, or naiveté; and they should so even if, and especially, if they have no confidence in his judgment. The simple fact is that the nation and our allies will be at further risk if the world sees a presidency that is weakened and that has no credibility to act. Partisans may be tempted to see such a result as condign punishment for the President’s misjudgments; they may feel that he deserves to pay the price for his hypocrisy and cheap and demagogic attacks on his predecessor. But at the end of the day, Republicans need to rise above such temptations; the stakes are too high. The weaker the president’s credibility on the world scene, the more the need to swallow and do what will not weaken it further. President Obama is the only president we have. That remains the overriding fact.

      That's James Ceaser of the University of Virginia approvingly quoted by William Kristol.



      http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343038.php

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    3. What has Kristol ever been right on?

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    Hey Anono-Bob, did you see that video I posted last night of the hydroplane flipping during this year's Gold Cup?

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      Anono-Bob.

      Kind of sounds like one of the stars at the Detroit Techno Music Festival.

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    2. They used to just die.

      Now, sometimes they bail out.

      What did this guy do?

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    3. Mike Reagan set records for off-shore racing, along w/Marriot.

      Ronnie Jr turned on the TV, saw it. and Peed his pants.

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      It did a 360 and landed upright. Guy hurt his hand.

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      QuirkMon Sep 02, 01:55:00 AM EDT

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      For the most part, the Gold Cup has been held on the Detroit River especially since the 1960's when the site was determined by bid.

      I used to go down there when I was younger. In those days Atlas Van Lines and Miss Budweiser where the big boats here. Bill Muncey and Dean Chenowith were the big honchos and used to alternate (and win) with the two boats. I remember there was a race out west where Ron Munson died in a crash. I was at the Gold Cup two weeks later when Chuck Thompson crashed and was killed right in front of where we were standing.

      In those days they didn't have the safety equipment they do now. The drivers were crazy. As I remember both Muncey and Chenowith were later killed in crashes. Muncey dies in his 60's. Had the most all time wins at the time.

      Here is an interesting one from our local news station taken at this year's Gold Cup.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHZeT4TbI_M

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    6. Ok, I'll watch.

      Not up for snuff films.

      Yet.

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    7. Rufus was going to sponsor Helen Chenoweth in a Vintage Race.

      ...then someone told him she's been dead for 7 years.

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    8. Air Disasters I put in a different category.

      I've just always had the airplane bug.

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    9. Didn't see it Quirk. But I will look.

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      I just posted it above for Doug.

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    11. Seth McFarlane had a ticket on Flight 11 from Boston.

      ...but he drank too much the night before, travel guy wrote the departure time as 15 minutes later than it really was, and he couldn't get on even tho the plane was still on the ground.

      He didn't even save the Stub, just tossed it.

      Atheist, through and through.

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    12. I knew you didn't do it for Boobie.

      He's clueless.

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    13. Here we're making second derivative Chenowith Jokes, and he doesn't know where he is.

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    14. Mickey Thompson Crash at Indy

      The real reason they switched to Alcohol Rufus.

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  11. If he steps down, he's gonna break that skinny ankle.

    If he stays there, the other shin develops a stress fracture.

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  12. Sad really, not even a teleprompter could save him.

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    1. In that picture of him at the table with his National Security Squad, it looks like he's reading off an I-Pad or something.

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  13. THIS IS A FRIGHTENING STATISTIC, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST WORRYSOME IN RECENT YEARS.

    25% of the women in this country are on medication for mental illness.

    That's scary. It means 75% are running around untreated.

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  14. Damned Aussies are all Misogynists.

    ...well, half are, the rest are crazy c words.

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  15. Meanwhile, the neocon dream continues in Iraq:

    (BAGHDAD) — A prominent leader of a militia opposed to al-Qaida escaped an assassination attempt Monday that killed six of his body guards and one civilian and wounded eight people, authorities said. Seven more people were killed and 15 wounded in separate violence in Baghdad and another Iraqi city as the country reels from waves of sectarian attacks.

    Two suicide bombers attacked the motorcade of Wisam al-Hardan near his house in Baghdad’s western Harthiyah neighborhood, but the Sunni tribal sheik was not hurt, said Interior Ministry spokesman Saad Maan.

    Al-Hardan was recently appointed by the Iraqi prime minister to lead the Sunni militia known as Sahwa, which joined U.S. troops in the war against al-Qaida at the height of Iraq war. Ever since, it has been a target for Sunni insurgents who consider them traitors.

    Later in the day, a suicide bomber rammed his explosive-laden car into a security checkpoint near the city of Baqouba, killing four people and wounding 12, said police and hospital officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media. Baqouba, a former al-Qaida stronghold, is 60 kilometers (35 miles) northeast of Baghdad.

    In southeastern Baghdad, police gunmen using weapons fitted with silencers opened fire on a commercial street, killing two people and wounding three, said a different police official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak with the media. It was not immediately clear why the officers opened fire.

    And in Baghdad’s western Baiyaa area, a man was shot dead as he walked near his home, the police official said.

    Most attacks on civilians and security forces in recent years have been the work of Sunni extremist groups such as al-Qaida. But attacks on Sunni targets have been on the rise in recent months, raising fears that armed Shiite groups are starting to retaliate.



    Read more: http://world.time.com/2013/09/02/anti-al-qaida-leader-escapes-assassination-in-iraq/#ixzz2dnjyJ1rd

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    1. It was a neocon's dream that iraq become an example of civil society.

      By withdrawing without any agreements, ala obama we gave away the victory for nothing.

      thanks obama for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

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  16. Ernest Hemingway wrote a late unpublished short story (quite a long short story) available only to members of the Intermountain Critics Society called:

    "Death In The Afternoon At The Diamond Cup".

    Lots of beautiful descriptions of the crazy assed characters that risk their all for nothing at all, really, like bullfighters. Lots of frantic action around the boat pits, love interest between a professor in Idaho and a Spanish photograper woman, who finally left him before the last race for a lesbian, lots of drinking, danger, riots, and descriptions of the magnificent scenery and the magnificent beautiful thunder boats with the long white water tails behind them going at 180mph. The winner of the race, a Swede, took the Diamond Cup and pawned it to pay some hit men he owned gambling money to and they took the Cup, and his life too.

    So this North American fiesta ended with the winner taking nothing and men without women.

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  17. Heh, camera eye view of a flip.

    Nice, Quirk.

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  18. In these pictures Biden is invariably sitting in the background somewheres looking like he just picked nose, a little like Ash, and is trying to cover it up.

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    1. They both get paid handsomely for doing it.

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    2. By the booger.

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  19. Maui Vista by the Beach, $100.

    Whata deal!

    "RATE DOES NOT INCLUDE 13.42% TAX + $50 CLEANING FEE + AIR BNB FEES CHARGED TO THE GUESTS.

    ADDITIONAL $150 REFUNDABLE SECURITY DEPOSIT COLLECTED TO INSURE ALL THE KEYS & CONDITION OF THE UNIT. THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE ROOM TOTAL & WILL BE RETURNED TO YOU IN 48 HRS AFTER DEPARTURE.

    RATE IS FOR 2PX ONLY, ADD'L PERSON IS $10/NT.

    Maui Vista is located across from beautiful Charley Young Beach and is in walking distance to many shops, restaurants, bars & beaches in Kihei. It's a quaint property that has a tranquil feel about it and my unit is in the 3rd bldg which is up from the main road so it's quiet."

    We used to rent a 2 Bdrm Unit w/an Ocean View there by the month for 900 bucks, I think.

    Life used to be a beach.

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    1. Call Quirk's MauiVistasRUs, a start up company, LLC.

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    2. Beach front units extra.

      (but worth it, it's a long way to beach from the Vistas)

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  20. I'll raise you a flip -

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelkGaiu3z8

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  21. I hate those fast edits.

    ...if it burns, it's worth pulling up a chair.

    Don't tell Q I haven't watched his yet.

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  22. September 3, 2013
    A Tale of Two Red Lines
    By Gene Schwimmer

    On September 1st, an article appeared in the Times of Israel (emphasis mine):
    "Netanyahu warns enemies not to test Israel's strength"

    Speaking hours after US President Barack Obama delayed a military strike at Syria pending a Congressional vote, [Israel Prime Minister Benyamin] Netanyahu declared that "Israel is calm and confident. Our citizens know that we are well prepared for any circumstance."

    He added: The citizens also should be aware that our enemies have very good reasons not to test our strength and might. They know why."

    And so does the rest of the world, because when Benyamin Netanyahu warns an enemy that Israel will do something and states the conditions that will cause her to do it, that enemy -- and anyone else within earshot of the Israeli prime minister's words -- knows that he means it.

    And when the current President of the United States, Barack Obama, speaks? Ummmm... not so much. Or as Elliott Abrams recently expressed it:
    Middle Easterners are keen students of power... They know that no one, from Khamenei to Assad to Putin to Chavez, has ever seemed to fear Barack Obama; no one has been deterred from crossing him.
    Let us speak, then, of red lines. In my view, there are two kinds: the kind drawn by this man...

    ... and the kind drawn by this man...

    Netanyahu's UN speech was hardly the first time the prime minister warned the international community about Iran's nuclear weapons program. He's been sounding the alarm for years and during that time, military experts and politicians around the world have speculated on whether Israel possesses the military wherewithal to reach Iran, let alone destroy Iran's nuclear facilities once she gets there.
    But no one doubts Israel's, or Netanyahu's, resolve. So, the mullahs' rhetoric regarding Israel's "strength and might" notwithstanding, no Iranian seems particularly eager test it by crossing Netanyahu's red line. The mullahs may be mad, but they're not that mad. Nor do I seriously expect either Syria or Hizb'allah to launch any serious attacks on Israel, should we attack Syria.

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    1. On the other hand, Bashar Assad, from what this writer can see, doesn't seem overly concerned about a U.S. military response to his use of chemical weapons on his own people. And who can blame him? What should he reasonably expect from Commander-in-Chief Barack Obama? A few cruise missiles, none of which will be targeted specifically at him? The destruction of a few storage facilities from which he will have had ample time to relocate his arsenal while Obama was making up his mind? A couple of days, maybe three, of mini-shock and micro-awe before going back to business in the killing fields where more than 100,000 have already died?

      Sure looks that way to me. Because there is no method to Obama's madness. There is no grand plan, no strategy, no military objective, such as, say, toppling Assad or at least weakening him. This is strictly a matter of credibility: Obama's and, sadly, because he is the president, America's.
      Obama recklessly drew a line in the Syrian sand regarding the use of chemical weapons, never dreaming that Assad would cross it. Now that Assad has, in fact, crossed Obama's red line, Obama is stuck -- and we, by extension, are stuck, too -- with a limited set of options, none good, with the possible exception of one by General Jack Kean (ret.). As described by Charles Krauthammer in a recent column:
      The only defensible action would be an attack with a strategic purpose, a sustained campaign aimed at changing the balance of forces by removing the Syrian regime's decisive military advantage -- air power.

      Of Assad's 20 air bases, notes retired Gen. Jack Keane, six are primary. Attack them: the runways, the fighters, the helicopters, the fuel depots, the nearby command structures. Render them inoperable.

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    2. Changing the balance of forces in Syria, however, would bring its own consequences, consequences that might seriously distract Obama from goal of turning America into a euro-socialist paradise or, even worse, from his golf game. So I would not expect Obama to take General Keane's advice, though I would love to be surprised. Assad's cruelties, to date, justify his removal -- with extreme prejudice, if necessary. We can worry about what beast slouches into Damascus to be born after he's gone, or dead, later -- and let us hope that the next president, unlike this one, has the competence to tame that beast or at least hold it at bay.

      But there's also an important question to be answered here, which is, how did we get to this point in the first place? We are thousands of miles from Syria. Syria cannot pose any serious threat to us. Israel, on the other hand, is Syria's neighbor, sitting well within Syrian missile range and clearly threatened by Assad's chemical arsenal.

      And yet, we're the ones led by a president struggling to extricate himself from a "box that he made"? How can this be? What is the difference between the Israelis and us?

      Could it be the difference between a strong and effective leader, a leader who admired Ronald Reagan and who has clearly learned Reagan's lesson of "peace through strength"; and a weak and incompetent leader who believes in "peace through appeasement" and who, even after four-and-a-half-years as President of the United States, has learned nothing?

      Could it be the difference between a forthright and eloquent leader of a nation smaller than Lake Michigan, to whom, when he speaks, the whole world listens; and a weak and vacillating leader of the most powerful nation in history, the world's only superpower, to whom, when he speaks, no one listens?

      Could it be the difference between a leader who knows when, where and how to draw a red line and who has the gravitas to make it stick; and one who doesn't, and hasn't?

      Follow Gene Schwimmer on Twitter. Visit Gene at geneschwimmer.com.

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/a_tale_of_two_red_lines.html

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    3. I've yet to spend more than 30 seconds on Twittee.

      Half the time I can't figure out what is going on.

      The other half, it's something no one but mindless fan boys and girls care about.

      ...it's So non Witty.

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  23. Iraq is worse off today because of our doing. Libya is a disaster, on it’s way to getting worse. Afghanistan is collapsing in front of us:


    Afghanistan's police and army are losing too many men in battle, and may need up to five more years of western support before they can fight independently, the top US and Nato commander in the country has told the Guardian.

    General Joseph Dunford also said in an interview that it was too early to judge whether Nato had been right to end combat operations in Afghanistan this spring. Western forces have officially offered only training and support to the Afghan army and police during the brutal fighting season of the summer months.

    Dunford admitted that Nato and Afghan commanders are concerned about Afghan casualty rates, which have regularly topped more than 100 dead a week. "I view it as serious, and so do all the commanders," Dunford said. "I'm not assuming that those casualties are sustainable."

    The rapidly expanded security forces, now 350,000 strong, did not need help in basic battle skills, Dunford told the Guardian. But they still struggle to support themselves in areas varying from logistics and planning to intelligence-gathering and back-up from planes and helicopters in difficult battles.

    The west officially stopped fighting in Afghanistan in June, shifting to a "train, advise, assist" role. Asked whether he thought that transfer was premature, given the problems that Afghan forces face, Dunford said it was too early to judge. "I think time is going to tell – I don't think you can tell that today."

    Dunford's comments highlighted an apparent rift between western politicians keen to wrap up a messy war that has cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars, and military commanders on the ground who are seeing a newly formed police force and army struggling against a hardened insurgency.

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  24. Onward to Syria. It’s just logical.

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  25. So, yet again, anoni posts an article that claims that Assad's forces used chemical weapons.

    There is no evidence of that, not enough to convince theBritish Parliment.

    Posting lies, callling it good, the anoni way.
    Two days ago it was a post from Sarah, claiming the US was bombing Syria, today it one claiming Assad used chemical weapons.

    To bad boobie is still dead, he'd know the cure for Jungle Fever

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  26. Oh good, We are going all in with al Qaeda. Help an ally in need.

    McCain: Obama to Send New Arms to Syrian Rebels
    Sep 2, 2013 10:03 PM EDT

    That’s what John McCain says the president promised to do if it means getting support for an attack on Syria. Josh Rogin and Eli Lake report on Obama’s quickening war campaign.
    I
    n a private meeting at the White House on Monday with Senator John McCain, President Obama said he plans to give Syrian rebels more advanced weapons, according to McCain. If this happens, it would mark an expansion of Obama’s latest Syria strategy of possibly mounting a military response to Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons.


    McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham met with Obama to discuss the plan, which as currently outlined by the White House involves a limited mission to punish the Syrian regime’s use chemical weapons, as the Syrian president did most recently on Aug. 21, and deter future assaults. Administration officials have made clear that “regime change” is not an objective of the mission. But Obama’s new arming strategy would certainly help the rebels, whose goal is removal of the Assad regime. The White House didn’t respond to requests for comment on Monday.

    “He said that he was willing to upgrade the capabilities of the Free Syrian Army,” McCain said in an interview with The Daily Beast, referring to the largest of the rebel groups. “This was a shift in the president’s thought and actions from before.”

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    1. Quit posting articles that claim that Assad's forces used chemical weapons, Deuce.

      There is no evidence of that, not enough to convince the British Parliment.

      It is irritating to the rodent when you continue to do that.

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    2. Rodent seems to think the British Parliament was voting simply on whether or not Assad used chemical weapons.

      Rodent cain't spel good an don no da 'Parliment' is not the House Of the Commons.

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    3. If you read the threads, anoni, you would see that Deuce's position is that there is no viable evidence that Assad's forces used chemical weapons. An entire thread focused upon the Saudi supplying tho munitions for the 21AUG attack.

      Eitheer read the threads or provide evidence to the contrary that would convince a gnat of your verasity. Instead you post gibberish, baseless gibber, worse than dither, which is intentional.

      I do not think your ineptitude is intentional.

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    4. The House of Commons is part of Parliment,, anoni.

      Like the House of Representitives is part of Congress.

      A vote in the House of Commons is a vote in the Parliment.

      Just as a vote in the House of Representatives is a vote in Congress.

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    5. You just added the word 'in' - in the 'Parliment' -


      To have a vote of the Congress or of the Parliament you must have a vote of the House and Senate, in the one, or the Commons and Lords, in the other.

      You are an idiot and stil cain't spel gud.

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    6. Don't have to spel reel gud, just god enough.

      Which I do.

      Keeps you on the edge of your seat.

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    7. desert ratTue Sep 03, 10:02:00 AM EDT
      Don't have to spel reel gud, just god enough.
      Which I do.
      Keeps you on the edge of your seat.



      Works in a barn but not on a blog.

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  27. "Get an art book of white paper. "Dream new dreams". Use pen, colored pencils, whatever to brainstorm things you want to do.
    They might be crazy but have a go. Just start. It gives you a reason to get out of bed and you'll be surprised just what you will have achieved in 12 months.
    It gives you a sense of fulfillment, achievement and happiness.
    Everything we do is in the pursuit of happiness.
    "

    ***

    It would be a short book:

    "Kill Yourself"

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    1. .

      Colored pens?

      Just don't give Obama any red ones.

      .

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  28. ...back to Carolla Podcast Reruns.

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  29. Maybe POTUS and Joe can send me over to be a Guinea Pig for air quality.

    ...and I'm not even from New Guinea!

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    1. No advice I've read has suggested a blog about Alewite Mass Killers.

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  30. "A Papua New Guinea cult leader known as "Black Jesus" was castrated and disemboweled by villagers after being hacked to death.

    Police said that Steven Tari was hunted down by a mob of villagers, after allegedly killing a teenage girl during a sacrifice ritual.

    Tari, who is believed to be 42, escaped from prison in March. He had been serving a 20-year sentence for raping four girls."

    ***

    Great!
    That's just great.

    Just what the doctor ordered.

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  31. No Justice, No Peace!

    I'm saved!

    ...now I have a cause.

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  32. Send travel vouchers to:

    Doug, Kihei, Maui.

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  33. Stupid Australasian's don't know that we have The Real Black Jesus in The Whitehouse.

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    1. Blogger's become so helpful:

      White house

      White-house

      Whorehouse

      Whiteout

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    2. Jungle Fever doug, it's just Jungle Fever.

      Must be why Mrs Palin is so conflicted about Obama, that she posts fantasies about his actions on her Facebook page.

      She dreams of Obama bombing Syria, then believes it to be true.

      Hot summer nights.

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    3. How tall are New Guineans?

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    4. Do they have round balls?

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    5. Was his mom in New Guinea when she claimed she was in Thailand?

      Delete
    6. Could that Guinean Shaman have claimed to be Kenyan?

      Delete
    7. Correction:

      ...mean't to say:

      "Do they play (think NBA) with round balls?"

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    8. "Police criminal investigation officer Ray Ban said Tari and his followers killed 15-year-old Rose Wagum during a sacrifice ritual.

      Lebu, the local court magistrate, said 80 men from a cluster of villages then formed three groups to hunt down Tari and a 15-year-old follower. They found him when he was attacking another girl.

      "The 80 men separated into three groups. One group disturbed and chased him while he was conducting his morning ritual," Lebu said.

      Tari escaped but encountered another group of men, who killed him. "He injured two of those men but they outnumbered and killed him," Lebu claimed.

      The vigilantes dumped his body in a shallow pit, which was later exhumed by police. Dr Juith Gawi of Modilion Hospital, who helped dig up his body, said Lebu "was chopped and slashed with bush knives on both arms and legs, chest and stomach which revealed his intestines. He was also castrated."

      Ban said he hopes Tari's death will stop cult practices taking place in the area.

      "Tari is dead and this cult worship dies with him," he told locals. "Stop this worship now. If I hear any more cult worship here, I will return with my men."

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    9. ...those Adventists that came by yesterday asked if I had a live-in granddaughter.

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    10. The cult figurehead had been planning to leave Papua New Guinea for ISRAEL and had arranged to leave the island via helicopter. His followers had even bought him a farewell pig, but he was killed before the feast.

      He had studied to become a Lutheran minister at a Bible college in Madang but instead became a cult leader, amassing thousands of followers, including armed warriors who protected him.

      ***

      Shoulda expected that.

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    11. Deuce can tell us all about the Luts.

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    12. We should be sending massive quantities of anti-anxiety drugs over there.

      ...if we really cared.

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    13. You had a nice mini-thread going there Doug until it was invaded by The Laughing Stock.

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    14. That's Entertainment!

      Gotta keep 'em laughing

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    15. .

      I always used a dog to get rid of my cult leaders.

      Scooter was a golden lab mix, friendly and curious. Liked to hang with me while I was working on the car. Every time I would open the hood, she would jump up in it. The fact that she never knew what to do once she got in there required I lift her down again and she was a heavy dog. Probably the reason for some of my back problems around that time.

      Anyway the two of us were working out in the garage one Saturday morning when we were cornered by a marauding band of Jehovah Witnesses, two guys dressed in suits and an attractive young lady in a knee length dress, a nice looking threesome but fierce, motivated, and relentless. Every time I tried to tell one I wasn't interested another would jump in and start proselytizing. I was getting kind of frustrated was about to lose it when Scooter walked up to the girl and stuck her head under her dress up to her crotch. They were gone in seconds.

      Old Scooter was a good dog. Still miss her.

      .

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    16. desert ratTue Sep 03, 07:32:00 AM EDT
      Jungle Fever doug, it's just Jungle Fever.
      Must be why Mrs Palin is so conflicted about Obama, that she posts fantasies about his actions on her Facebook page.
      She dreams of Obama bombing Syria, then believes it to be true.
      Hot summer nights.



      Perfect example of Rat's contribution to the blog. Off topic, insulting, racist and misogynistic

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  34. You know we have a problem when you see a headline like this and it is not ironic:

    New York Times

    President Gains McCain's Backing on Syria Attack

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    1. The Neo-Con Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is for bombing Syria, while the flaming Liberal Amb. John Bolton is against.

      That settles it, we do have a problem.

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    2. The name of the problem is The Obama Problem.

      A problem without a solution.

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  35. From the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23928871

    Syrian government behind 'massive chemical attack'

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  36. http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-france-evidence-syria-20130902,0,1163653.story

    France releases new, 'undeniable' evidence against Syria

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  37. Syria used Chemical Weapons 14 times..

    Syria behind chemical attack and 14 others, British intel concludes


    Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/world/syria-behind-chemical-attack-and-14-others-british-intel-concludes#ixzz2dpiGtzoz


    Yep the Brits...

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    1. Yep, but their elected officals do not believe it.

      Evidence is only viable if it is credible.
      You do not believeObama on the IRS/Tea Party
      Do not believe Obama on Fast and Furious
      Do no believe Obama on the NSA/Snowden
      Do not believe Obama on Benghazi

      But he is credible on chemical weapons in Syria?

      You are swinging at Curveballs

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    2. The elected officials may well believe it but don't want to get involved.

      You are swinging at Curveballs.

      Have been all your life.

      And when you pitch, you pitch screwballs.

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    3. Dont argue with a self professed criminal.

      Dont you remember he argued that since he wasnt "charged" or convicted of murder it wasnt a crime?

      Delete
    4. Notice how he sweep away those sites and arguments without responding to them?

      Someone posted actual articles that listed information on how syria's government was responsible for numerous wmd attacks and rat's answer?

      Directly out of the rules for radicals playbook....

      No rational discussion...

      Just bullshit.

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  38. The Obama Candy Store is open, according to John Bolton. To get some candy for your Congressional district, at least if you are a democrat, all you have to do is vote for the resolution authorizing the use of force in Syria, then place an order.

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  39. Putin practices for a meeting with Obama, holds Summit Talks with walrus -

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/photos-vladimir-putin-takes-field-trip-to-aquarium

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  40. Putin practices for a meeting with Obama, holds Summit Talks with walrus -

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/photos-vladimir-putin-takes-field-trip-to-aquarium

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  41. Israelis doing their best to calm situation

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    1. 1. The israelis are showing a defensive anti-ballistic missile
      2. I noticed you didnt say anything about the Hamas attempt to blow up civilians in a tel aviv mall but some how Israel is provocative?

      get your standards aligned.

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  42. Most visited place during congressional recess? Any guesses?

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    1. The Circus?

      The bordello?

      The bordello at the Circus?

      Circus Circus?

      Jeez, I don't know.

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    2. .


      O, Kerry, McCain, Graham, all have been playing the Israel card since things started going south on red line reaction.


      .

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    3. Israel is a great place to visit.

      Maybe someday you will go and visit and learn about it 1st hand and not thru propaganda sites

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    4. .

      Mine was a simple statement of fact. Take a look at the recent speeches. In DC, when all else fails they use the Israel card. No propaganda cites (unless you accuse the major news networks of propaganda or are you saying the videos were doctored) no critical comments about the beauty of Israel.

      .

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  43. Rush is reporting Assad may be set up by rebels

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  44. Panetta reported lat sept that Syrian rebels overan a govt storage facility

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  45. The facility stored chemical weapons

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  46. I am convinced and have been for some time that there is something very rotten here. There is no upside for Assad.

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  47. Replies
    1. Now that sounds like an arab's thinking...

      "who is benefiting" hence they are to blame.

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  48. Most likely culprits: the saudis

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    1. Why is it so harm to believe that Assad murdered 1500 of his own people? He's already murdered 100,000... Made homeless 2.5 million

      AND his's father? was a mass murderer too...

      Want to go to war against assad for murdering American go in Iraq?

      FINE.

      But you are thinking to hard

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  49. "Every time I would open the hood, she would jump up in it."

    ***

    "Every time I tried to tell one I wasn't interested another would jump in and start proselytizing. I was getting kind of frustrated was about to lose it when Scooter walked up to the girl and stuck her head under her dress up to her crotch. They were gone in seconds."
    "

    ***

    ...so, you train the dog to do the crime, and now you're blaming the witnesses?

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    1. .

      No training. Pure instinct. She was a hunting breed.

      .

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  50. We heard that there is no such thing as an Israeli lobby. We can use this as a case study. I contend that the lobby exists and that there will be a major push to get the us into war with Syria and then Iran. The upcoming. Vote in congress should be an indication . The overall vote will be close. A significant deviation from the actual vote by any particular interest group will indicate support for US getting involved in another ME war. Will the support come from republicans , democrats, neocons? We will break the vote down by the published bio of every vote for and against .

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    1. The "Israel" lobby aint pushing the USA into war with Syria.

      As for Iran?

      Iran aint Israel's sole problem, it's the world.

      If the USA is too scared, too weak or too afraid to stand up and be the world's only super power?

      Then live with it...

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    2. Of course there is an Israel lobby. Just like there is a Saudi lobby, a CAIR lobby, a China lobby, a Japan lobby, a farmer's lobby, a petroleum lobby, an ethanol lobby, nearly to infinity, and even a hooker's lobby right there in the lobby. Why is this so startling? I am a member of the Israel lobby myself, and proud of it.

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  51. Hey Quirk,

    I trust your eye problem wasn't much of a problem.

    I enjoyed your first chapter - you got much of the Canadiana down pretty good. Interestingly enough my kids pestered me into to doing a very 'Canadian' thing this last weekend - a canoe trip. Lordy, portaging canoes, paddling and camping in wind and rain goes back to the founding of Canada and the Voyageurs paddling about trading for furs. Unfortunately much of the politics didn't make it through in the first chapter. Oh well.

    Pretty good move by Obama to kick it to Congress to see if they want to continue playing the mugs game of World Cop. I'd be surprised if they vote to go for it - Damned if they do Damned if they don't... Too bad they wouldn't consider mustering international institutions to share the burden but hysteria reigns on that matter.

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    1. .

      Long weekend. I'm seeing the optometrist tomorrow. Had another doctor's appointment today. I'm a mess.

      After posting that first chapter, I thought of a number of ways to clean it a up some but that's how it always goes with great literature.

      As for O, he did the right thing even if it was just to cover his ass. I think if the vote was taken now he would lose but they have over a week to twist arms and I read the pres is enticing recalcitrant Dems to sign on with all kinds goodies. That's typical. Remember the giveaways during the Obamacare debate.

      The vote may be close but I think he will likely get it.

      .

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  52. HEY BOOBIE,

    being master of your domain has nothing to do with problems logging into google. Why don't you just start fresh and create a whole new google account using a login and password EVEN YOU can remember?

    or is that too big a task for you gnat sized brain?

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    1. I can't Ash. Signed a contract with my daughter. Only she can fiddle with the machine. Might have it done tomorrow though as I think I will be seeing her. Sorry.


      By the way, you have been asked politely not to pick your nose in public.

      Please....

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    2. "contract"? creating a username and logging in is "fiddling with the machine"? God forbid you should think of touching a real machine like a tractor or sumtin...

      Delete
  53. Wasserman Schultz: ‘Dozens’ of Countries Back U.S. Action in Syria
    By Andrew Johnson
    September 3, 2013 9:07 AM


    Democratic National Committee chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz says there are “dozens” of nations supporting the United States’ intervention in Syria, but regrets she’s “not at liberty to say” which ones.

    “There are dozens of countries who are going to stand with the United States, who will engage with us on military action and also that back us 100 percent,” Wasserman Schultz said on CNN last night. When pressed by host Wolf Blitzer as to which ones, the Florida congressman said some of that information was classified.

    The host asked Wasserman Schultz if those countries pledged military or diplomatic support, and she responded that it was a combination of both. “The important thing is we need military and moral leadership here,” she said.

    While the U.S. has tried to build a coalition to take action against Syria, key allies have already rejected the idea: The British parliament voted down the idea last week, and Italy, Germany, and Canada have said they won’t support any intervention that lacks a U.N. mandate. The Arab League, which supported the U.N.-authorized intervention in Libya, won’t endorse U.S.-led intervention and supports an internationally authorized action. The French president has indicated a willingness to be involved, and will bring military authorization to a vote in parliament this week; Australia has agreed to support strikes diplomatically, but won’t be militarily involved.

    She indicated she believes Congress will authorize action in Syria, saying, “President Obama and, I think, the Congress will make a very strong signal that this conduct — murdering your own people mercilessly — is unacceptable.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/357429/wasserman-schultz-dozens-countries-back-us-action-syria-andrew-johnson

    video of Deb;ie too

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      Debbie would be humorous but there is something about her face and her manners that gives me the creeps.

      .

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  54. Two of the Republican leaders are on board, Boehner and Cantor. Question, in the future, why would anyone vote Republican?

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    1. Because all the Republicans voted against ObamaCare, maybe?

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    2. Foreign policy isn't the whole game.

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    3. I've been asking that question for a long time now. The only reason I could come up with was that they are a little more fiscally conservative than the Dems but even then the gap is so small it is virtually non-existent. The Dems have, traditionally, been less war mongering, but again the gab is small. You've really got to reach out to the radicals to find some sense - Nadar was spot on regarding Iraq and then there is Ron Paul and Kucininch (however you spell that crazy dudes name). America is plum stock full of war mongering idiots. "Thank you for your service" rings as the Warplanes scream overhead at all major sporting events. sad really

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    4. I don't like Boehner but -

      John Boehner Let’s tie the debt ceiling to spending cuts

      There's a reason.

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    5. Who was it that said "THEY ARE ALL DICKS!" ...


      ;)

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    6. "The Dems have, traditionally, been less war mongering"

      Bullshit.
      Vietnam
      World War I
      World War II
      Korea

      Ash, please, quit this picking your nose in public.

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    7. Who Ash, held the White House at the beginning of those conflicts?

      Delete
    8. Yep, the dems are war mongering idiots as well. You got a nation full of the suckers.

      Delete
    9. The vote to go into Afghanistan was unanimous except for maybe one vote which was missing I think.

      The vote to go into Iraq the second time was less but lots of dems voted for it.

      Iraq the first time I forget but since it was a reaction to the invasion of another member of the United Nations I believe it was an overwhelming vote too, if one were held.

      Ash, PLEASE quit this picking of you nose in public.

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    10. Yep, like a typical boobie he puts his other foot in his mouth and swallows hard.

      Delete
    11. You need another trip to the dunce chair.

      Delete
  55. McCAIN: Shouting 'Allahu Akhbar!' Same as Christians Shouting 'Thank God!'...drudge

    I give up.

    McCain doesn't realize it but he's an Allahu Akbar shouter rather than a Thank God shouter.

    I think it was Rufus who first said 'he's never seen a war he didn't like', or some such.

    Rufus is right.

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    1. and boobie has thrown his full support behind Assad's right to use chemical weapons to quell domestic strife!

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  56. Heh, Debbie says there are 'dozens' of countries out there who support USA going into Syria, but, dang, she can't reveal them.

    That's about the ripest thing I've read yet in this fiasco.

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  57. John Bolton On Syria: "I Would Vote No"

    "I would not have referred the matter to Congress, and I think if I were a member of Congress, I would vote against an authorization to use force here," former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton said on FOX News. "I don’t think it’s in America’s interest. I don’t think we should, in effect, take sides in the Syrian conflict. There’s very little to recommend either side to me, and I think the notion that a limited strike, which is what the president seems to be pursuing, will not create a deterrent effect with respect either to Syria’s use of chemical weapons or, more seriously, Iran’s nuclear weapons program. So, all in all, since I don’t see any utility to the use of military force in Syria in this context, I would vote no.

    "Now the argument that the administration makes is, the president's committed us here, it’ll cause a huge blow to America’s credibility if Congress doesn't approve the use of force. And I'd say, a huge blow to America’s credibility compared to what? Compared to the mess the president’s already made of it? I just don’t think there’s a convincing argument here, and frankly it doesn’t matter what the intelligence shows. I don’t think there’s any doubt that Assad’s regime used chemical weapons. I don’t think that’s going to change anybody’s mind."

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/09/03/john_bolton_on_syria_i_would_vote_no.html

    Video of Bolton speaking his mind on this issue.

    (For those Bolton haters among us here.)

    Damned Neo-Cons.

    Where is Maxine Waters on this issue do you think?

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  58. Start a Petition For Ash To Dunce Chair, bob.

    If enough sign on maybe Deuce would do it.

    He certainly has crossed enough dunce lines by now.

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    1. My sweet and lovely, oh so very lovely, neice could fix that nigatato brain of his and make him suitable for presentation here.

      Delete
    2. She doesn't do brain surgery, just scans.

      Be interesting - or would it? - to know what is wrong with yours.

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  59. .

    Oh, the humanity.

    1. It's obvious Mr. Dithers is not interested in this war. Months ago FUKUS vowed to supply the rebels with offensive weapons in response to previous purported chem weapons attacks by Assad.

    By all accounts, none have been delivered yet.

    2. The only reason he wants to 'do something' is to attempt to save face.

    3. The only reason he is going to Congress is because all his 'allies', the Coalition of the Unwilling, could only offer him godspeed on his new adventure in Syria.

    4. Causi belli this time is "chemical weapons". We will symbolically 'teach Assad a lesson' in an operation that is 'proportional and limited in time and resources'. Hmmm.

    What is proportional to the death of 1400 people? How many will die in the US attacks? How many civilians? How many children? There are two naval forces heading for Syria. How much is that costing? Some are saying this operation is likely to cost billions. Could those same billions be better served trying to help those turned into refugees by the conflict?

    1400 dead. 400 children.

    No one can defend the use of chemical weapons. But is it easier defending cruise missiles ripping bodies to pieces? 1400. Interesting when you compare it to the Congo where 5.4 million have died in the last 15 years through ongoing war and where they are still dying today.. Children? About half the dead. I'm sure the living could probably use the billions for humanitarian aid.

    But in the Congo, no president's ego was at stake.

    Yeah, O will likely get his vote.

    But we all know that it won't be because of Assad's use of chemical weapons. It will be because of careless words and a president's pride. For others it will be because they have never seen a war they didn't like. For others it will to support their parties standard bearer and the goodies he can provide. For others it will be because they actually believe the bullshit they are handed and can't see the big picture. For others this is an opening to try to work through their other goals involving Israel and Iran.

    All in all a clusterfuck. Nothing new from the kids in OZ.

    .

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