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Monday, September 02, 2013

John Kerry reminded us that France was our “oldest ally”. Now French lawmakers are being presented evidence of the Syrian chemical attack. What happens if they are unconvinced?



02 SEPTEMBER 2013 - 10H35  

France lawmakers 'to see proof Syria regime behind attack'

France will hand over evidence to lawmakers on Monday proving President Bashar al-Assad's regime was behind the August 21 chemical weapons attack in Syria, a government source told AFP.

AFP - France will hand over evidence to lawmakers on Monday proving President Bashar al-Assad's regime was behind the August 21 chemical weapons attack in Syria, a government source told AFP.
It will be a set of evidence of different kinds that will allow the regime to be clearly identified as responsible for the August 21 chemical attack, the source said.

Some truth from Ron Paul:

192 comments:

  1. I continue to be amazed at the quality of real journalism coming from non-US media sources and the rubbish from the usual suspects.

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  2. Phyllis Bennis is a fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies and of the Transnational Institute in Amsterdam. She is active in the US and global Palestinian rights and peace movements, and her books include Challenging Empire: How People, Governments, and the UN Defy US Power and Ending the US War in Afghanistan: A Primer.

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    1. So Deuce, Phylis Bennis is your example of "fine" journalism?

      Brought to you by Russia Today.

      I have listened to her "reporting" for years. She's a hack. Actually she lies so skillfully that it takes a practiced ear to see her paint the lies so well.

      That's why she doesnt debate, SHe simply is anti-western, anti-israel apologist.

      If you wish to drink her "kool-aid" your choice.

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    2. right out of the box she states: he was prepared to go, without a UN resolution, which of course would make any military strike illegal"

      Actually no, she's lying.

      Conflating the issue of going to Congress with the issue of going to the UN are two different issues,

      as for the UN issue? Stating that all military strikes must have a UN resolution is in fact a violation of the UN charter.

      Article 51 provides for the right of countries to engage in self-defence, including collective self-defence, against an armed attack.
      “ Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

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    3. Some examples would be in order, if you wish to discredit the source.
      Otherwise we just have an Israeli apologist spouting his version of Kool-Aid, attempting to foul the information pool with Israelii propaganda.

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    4. Then she goes on to say that no matter what Congress says, the action is still illegal because it doesnt have UN Security council resolutions.

      Again, this is a un-truth.

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    5. She has a point of view and an intellectual ability and skill to defend it. I would rather see David Gregory take her on than John McCain or John Kerry.

      Russia Today or NBC? You choose.

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    6. You are on shaky ground defending Israel and then attacking those that disregard UN resolutions.

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    7. Syria has not attacked any other state, in the current conflict.

      It has been attacked by the state of Israel.

      Your position, then, is that Syria has a right of self defense and can now lawfully attack Israeli interests, at home and abroad, under the auspices of the UN Charter.

      Thanks for the update!

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    8. Interesting point, the threat of retaliation by Hezbollah and Iran are raised.

      Interesting,she doesnt seem to have an issue with them attacking America and that being a violation of UN/international law, rather she shifts the question to syria responding. She doesnt label syria attacking Israel as against international law...

      And in the end no mention of Iran, Russia, North Korea and Hezbollah supporting and in some cases fighting in Syria..

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    9. DeuceMon Sep 02, 10:36:00 AM EDT
      You are on shaky ground defending Israel and then attacking those that disregard UN resolutions.

      Nonsense.

      UN Resolutions are 2 types.

      there are security council resolutions and the meaningless general assembly votes.

      AND there is the point that the UN is a biased, bigoted agency today.

      After all there is ONLY ONE NATION that is singled out for exclusion for the Security Council, ISRAEL.

      There is only one nation that are listed as permanent agenda issues in UN-special investigations, Israel.

      So No shaky ground.

      Just pointing out the bullshit that we call the UN today.

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    10. Further, Syria would be in their rights to counter attack, after the 'punitive' strikes.

      Against US, France or Israel.

      If the French get on the Israeli war wagon, that is.

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    11. desert ratMon Sep 02, 10:38:00 AM EDT
      Syria has not attacked any other state, in the current conflict.
      It has been attacked by the state of Israel.
      Your position, then, is that Syria has a right of self defense and can now lawfully attack Israeli interests, at home and abroad, under the auspices of the UN Charter.
      Thanks for the update!


      Dear Mr Checkers. (aka rodent) (aka Rat) (aka Self confessed CRIMINAL)

      Your assertions again are bogus.

      You love to slip in some caveat that makes your sentence true.

      "in the current conflict."

      Give all of us adults a break and go back to your checkers nitwit.

      The "in the current conflict" didnt start last week, 30 months ago or even a decade ago.

      The current conflict started DECADES ago and Syria has been actively attacking Israel, directly and indirectly.

      Only you, a master bater at misdirection, misleading and lying can type a few words and lie so many times.

      So take your "in the current conflict" nonsense and shove it where the sun doesnt shine nitwit.

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    12. desert ratMon Sep 02, 10:42:00 AM EDT
      Further, Syria would be in their rights to counter attack, after the 'punitive' strikes.
      Against US, France or Israel.
      If the French get on the Israeli war wagon, that is.


      You do get dumber by the hour.

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    13. DeuceMon Sep 02, 10:36:00 AM EDT
      You are on shaky ground defending Israel and then attacking those that disregard UN resolutions.


      But I did notice rather than counter my point you attack me for defending Israel.

      Nice segway in changing the subject.

      .

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    14. So, quot, you are telling us that the current conflict started when Joshua invades Canaan?

      Or did it start in 1948< when the British gave away what was not theirs and the Europeon refugees invaded Palestine?

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    15. desert ratMon Sep 02, 11:05:00 AM EDT
      So, quot, you are telling us that the current conflict started when Joshua invades Canaan?
      Or did it start in 1948< when the British gave away what was not theirs and the Europeon refugees invaded Palestine?

      I aint TELLING you anything other than your games are childish.

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    16. However I will say, for a stoner/gun shooting asshole you are consistent.

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    17. You were discussing when the conflict staeted, but left it open ended. You came to no conclusion.
      You only made half an argument, now you have withdrawn.

      Typical and still comical

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    18. You dont get it?

      you have proven to all of us you are not worthy of real discussion

      You twist words, change meanings in mid-sentence and lie.

      Not a decent or ethical partner for blog discussions.

      So, "no soup for you".

      I have not withdrawn from any argument or discussion with decent human beings and you sir/she/it are not decent.

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    19. AnonymousMon Sep 02, 10:32:00 AM EDT
      Some examples would be in order, if you wish to discredit the source.
      Otherwise we just have an Israeli apologist spouting his version of Kool-Aid, attempting to foul the information pool with Israelii propaganda.

      You could simply google article 51 of the UN charter if you wish, unless that is too much work for you?

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    21. What is "Occupation"Mon Sep 02, 10:29:00 AM EDT
      right out of the box she states: he was prepared to go, without a UN resolution, which of course would make any military strike illegal"

      Actually no, she's lying.

      Conflating the issue of going to Congress with the issue of going to the UN are two different issues,

      as for the UN issue? Stating that all military strikes must have a UN resolution is in fact a violation of the UN charter.

      Article 51 provides for the right of countries to engage in self-defence, including collective self-defence, against an armed attack.
      “ Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.

      I like this answer, if anyone is to lazy to google it for examples?

      Well that's their issue not mine

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  3. Who makes more sense, Phillis Bennis or John McCain?

    Obama turns to McCain


    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is inviting former foe Sen. John McCain to the White House, hoping one of Congress’ most intractable foreign policy hawks will help sell the idea of a U.S. military intervention in Syria to a nation deeply scarred by more than a decade of war.

    Having announced over the weekend that he'll seek congressional approval for military strikes against the Assad regime, the Obama administration is now trying to rally support among Americans and their congressman and senators.

    Monday’s meeting with McCain is meant to address concerns of those who feel Obama isn’t doing enough to punish Syrian President Bashar Assad’s government for an attack in the Damascus suburbs last month that the U.S. says included sarin gas and killed at least 1,429 civilians, more than 400 of whom were children. On the other side of the spectrum, some Republican and Democratic lawmakers don’t want to see military action at all.

    Obama’s turnabout on Syria sets the stage for the biggest foreign policy vote in Congress since the Iraq war.

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    1. McCain and Obama ...
      Republican and Democrat

      Two sides of the same coin

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  4. Uh Oh, Snowden drops another turd in the punch bowl

    NSA spied on France's foreign ministry, diplomats


    © AFP

    The US National Security Agency (NSA) spied on the internal communications of France’s foreign ministry and diplomats, as well as those of the Qatar-based television station Al-Jazeera, a German magazine said Sunday.

    By News Wires

    The US National Security Agency (NSA) spied on the internal communications of France's foreign ministry and diplomats and those of Qatar-based television station Al-Jazeera, a German magazine said Sunday.

    Der Spiegel reported that in 2010 the NSA monitored the internal computer network of France's diplomats and that of the ministry itself by accessing so-called virtual private networks (VPN), a tool that generally offers a secure internet connection to users.

    The "top secret" NSA document seen by the magazine and dated June 2010 said French diplomatic offices in New York and Washington had bugs installed on the premises and that screenshots were taken from computer monitors in United Nations offices.

    The NSA was "interested in (France's) foreign policy objectives, especially the weapons trade, and economic stability," the magazine said.

    Der Spiegel had already revealed the NSA monitored internal UN computer systems in the summer of 2012 after viewing classified documents via Edward Snowden, the former intelligence analyst turned leaker to the media.

    Sunday's revelations are also believed to originate from Snowden.

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  5. This is absolutely fascinating.

    Too bad the American public is being cloaked by the US media information dissembling racket.

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  6. How independent will French lawmakers be?


    A recent survey shows that the majority of French people are opposed to their country’s involvement in possible military intervention in Syria.


    The BVA survey released on Saturday, showed that 64 percent of the respondents were against military action in Syria.

    The poll comes after French President Francois Hollande recently said during an interview with the daily Le Monde that he stood firm behind a “punitive” strike on Syria despite a delay in an military action by the UK after a vote in parliament.

    "If I engage France, the government will inform (the parliament) about the objectives and means deployed," the French president said.

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  7. “If I engage France, the government will inform (the parliament) about the objectives and means deployed," the French president said.

    That was only two days ago. Today, Hollande is hedging his bet.

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    1. Got to figure that the French could lose a thousand cars in the post intervention riots.

      A small price to pay to reestablish France as a world power, a force to be reckoned with in its former colonies and protectorates.

      Indo-China, a bridge to far, but the Levant, the French subs can strike there, never having to leave French ports
      If the French go nuclear

      Viva la France!

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  8. We, like children, are told by the community organizer that there are secrets that can only be told to congress, an institution that enjoys an overwhelming 9% approval rating.

    Listen up fuckers, we will pay for the war and we will fight the war. None of the shitbirds in the rafters of congress nor His Worship standing on the borrowed desk in the Palace will do either.

    Do we have to wait for Snowden, Enemy of the State, to give us the truth?

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    1. boobie told us it was the responsibility of the US and the 'West' to manage the world, because the 'Darkies', well, they were just like children.
      Simpletons, as it were.

      Others amongst US view the US public in a similar manner.

      Little wonder, then, that those folks in US government see all people the way boobie views 'Darkies', with disdain and a touch of paternalism.




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    2. desert ratMon Sep 02, 12:03:00 PM EDT


      The worst misogynist was boobie, may he rest in peace.

      I guess he is dead, he doesn't post any more.



      Is he dead or does he still post?

      Get your insults inline...

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  9. There is no word in the English language that adequately describes our Rulers and Masters in DC. “Dirty Motherfuckers” is inadequate.

    Can I have some assistance here, a dénoument of sort from our two staff writers?

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  10. By the way, the resolution sent by Obama, that he wants the Conga Line to sign on to, is nothing fancy. Necessary and appropriate it is:


    The resolution authorizes Obama to use the military as he determines "necessary and appropriate" to serve that goal.

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    1. You mean the President will not be able to determine who the enemy is?
      That the Congress will step up and name the foe!
      And that it is embodied in the proposal presented to Congress by the President, too!

      What a remarkable self-imposed limitation of Presidental power!

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    2. It's the Limbaugh Doctrine:

      He's never responsible for anything.

      Always fighting for Us!

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    3. I think that’s the idea when you declare war. It helps to know who you are declaring against.

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    4. Should have told that to. Congress, back in 2001.

      They declared war on whomever the President determined was an enemy.

      Look at the progress we've made, since Obama gained the Oval Office.

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  11. Walt might be of some help to you -

    "Creatures of the President, creatures of would-be Presidents, spies, blowers, electioneerers, bawlers, bribers, compromisers, lobbyers, sponges, policy-backers, monte-dealers, carriers of conceal’d weapons, deaf’ men, pimpled men, scarr’d inside with vile disease, gaudy outside with gold chains made from the people’s money and harlot’s money twisted together; crawling, serpentine men, the lousy combings and born freedom-sellers of the earth.”

    Does that help?

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    1. Looks like plagerism, from here.

      Then again what else should be expected from anonymous?

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  12. "Low down, Cocksucking Motherfuckers"

    always had a nice ring to it when I was growing up.

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  13. Hell, you could be straight and be a motherfucker.

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  14. Incredibly rare two-tone lobster.

    This incredibly rare two-tone lobster, half orange, half brown, is currently on display in Maine. With only one in 50 million lobsters carrying such markings, this little guy is incredibly rare, according to the Lobster Institute at the University of Maine.

    Only albino lobsters are more rare than this guy. Watch a video about it here.

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  15. Rare, shmare:

    Who gets off on albino lobsters?

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  16. Some poor schmuck got pulled down with his crabpot in NorCal this weekend.

    You'd think that killing crustaceans would be a piece of cake, but such is not always the case.

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  17. "Shell Shock"

    ...those guys are worse than me.

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  18. If only Obama had really looked half black, and half white, he coulda settled race relations as advertised.

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  19. ...and earned a healthy income at the Carnival in retirement.

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  20. NICK GILLESPIE, REASON: Let’s be blunt, I’m friendly with Bill Kristol. He's no Winston Churchill, he has zero wins in his column. When I think of the foreign policy mastery which comes out of The Weekly Standard, which was an instrumental mouthpiece for the Bush administration and before that they were calling for intervention throughout the Balkans -- I mean, they have never, in their short existence, they have never met a war that they didn’t like…

    Bill Kristol has no credibility. You know, for all of his plaudits and things like that, he has no credibility on foreign policy. Every decision that he has pushed and urged on America -- including before 9/11, to start getting really antagonistic militarily with China -- has been wrong. And it's about time that we stop paying that much attention to a kind of perspective on military action that coming out of The Weekly Standard.

    HOST: Charles Krauthammer saying that the president and White House, it's amateur hour with this announcement yesterday.

    GILLESPIE: You know, again, I'm not sure what Charles Krauthammer can point to, to say, 'Look, I said should we should go into Iraq, that's a great thing, and we should go into Afghanistan and that's a great thing.' You know, war -- people who are interested in going to war are always in favor of war, and then they always criticize when war doesn't go well.

    The fact of the matter is, is we need a better understanding of what went wrong in Iraq in two ways. One was clearly the actual administration of the occupation was completely disastrous and that was truly amateur hour under the Bush administration. But then also the conception of actually even going into Iraq and going into Afghanistan in a way where we went with the Pottery Barn kind of method, that if we broke it, we had to rebuild it. You know, tees are people who I'm afraid simply, you know, pundits every once in awhile should be held accountable for their past recommendations and these guys have a track record that is just God-awful. (C-SPAN's Washington Journal, September 1, 2013)

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    1. The way we went into Afghanistan was magnificent, as was the original plan to get out quick-like.

      Then the Regular Army got involved.

      The rest is history.

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    2. Been buying and repairing pottery ever since.

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    3. They could bring Petraeus back in to use his genius to pay off the guys at

      The Weekly Standard

      to just shut up.

      Like he did w/al Qaeda.

      ...and that whore.

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  21. Painted donkeys arrive to St. Paul's Cathedral

    Artist painted donkey statues are displayed in the 'Caravan' exhibition on August 30, 2013 in London, England.

    The exhibition featuring 25 life-size painted donkeys comes from Egypt and is the work of Western and Egyptian artists, both Muslim and Christian, who were each asked to decorate a life-size fibreglass donkey sculpted by Egyptian artist Reda Abdel Rahman. (Getty)

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  22. That woulda beat my Presbyterian Minister.
    ...at least for a week or two.

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  23. The NSA is the gift that keeps on giving

    A German magazine has said that the NSA spied on the electronic communications of the French foreign ministry. This comes as France looks to be the most likely ally to join the US in a military strike against Syria.

    A report published on the website of the German news magazine the Spiegel says the United States' National Security Agency (NSA) tapped into computers used by French diplomats to communicate with each other and the foreign ministry in Paris through virtual private networks (VPN).
    VPN internet connections are generally considered to offer a high level of security.

    The magazine report cites an NSA document dated June 2010, which said the agency had managed to place bugs in French diplomatic missions in both New York and Washington. It described this as a "success story" and said it had achieved "sensitive access" in a number of cases.
    It also said the NSA was particularly "interested in foreign policy objectives, especially the weapons trade, and economic stability" of France.
    It wasn't clear whether the source of the information was former NSA subcontractor Edward Snowden, who is being sought by American authorities for releasing troves of secret documents from the intelligence agency. Snowden has been granted temporary asylum in Russia.

    Fresh tensions?

    Previous reports of the NSA's alleged surveillance activities have created tensions between the US and its European allies.
    "We cannot accept this kind of behavior between partners and allies," French President Francois Hollande said back in July in response to a report that suggested the NSA was spying on European Union governments. He also went as far as to threaten to suspend negotiations between the EU and Washington towards a trans-Atlantic free trade agreement.

    Earlier this week, the Paris prosecutors’ office announced that it had launched a preliminary investigation into the NSA's Prism surveillance program, following a complaint by French rights groups in July.

    The rights groups filed the complaint against “persons unknown," but listed US-based corporations Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook and Apple as "potential accomplices" of the NSA.

    Ironically, the Spiegel report comes at a time when France appears to be the most likely European ally to join the United States in any punitive action against the government of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad over last month’s alleged chemical weapons attack.

    President Hollande has said he backs US President Barack Obama's decision to launch military action. The National Assembly is to debate what to do about Syria on Wednesday, but France’s constitution only requires the president to seek parliamentary approval for launching military action if it lasts longer than four months.

    There was no immediate reaction from the French government to the latest Spiegel report.
    pfd/ipj (AFP, dpa, AP, dpa)

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  24. Instead of building another Billion Dollar Embassy in Syria like we did in Iraq...

    We should set up a World-Class Eye SurgiCenter, and see if we could re-ignite Assad's passion for Medicine.

    Thus taking his mind off that obsession of his to gas women and children.

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    1. I think he was a dentist… too lazy to look.

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    2. Assad Jr, yep he's a dentist by training.

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    3. I was gonna, then, I said:

      Could a F...... Dentist be a Mass Murderer?

      ...now I'll have to.

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    4. I KNEW a Dentist would never gas women and children?

      How could I have doubted myself?

      ***

      "Al-Assad graduated from the medical school of the University of Damascus in 1988, and started to work as a physician in the army. Four years later, he attended postgraduate studies at the Western Eye Hospital, in London, specializing in ophthalmology.

      In 1994, after his elder brother Bassel, the heir apparent to their father, was killed in a car crash, Bashar was promptly recalled to Syria to take over Bassel's role. He entered the military academy, and took charge of the Syrian occupation of Lebanon in 1998. In December 2000, Assad married Asma Assad, née Akhras. Al-Assad was reconfirmed by the national electorate as President of Syria in 2000 and 2007, after the People's Council of Syria had voted to propose the incumbent each time.[1][2]"

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    5. "children!"

      Always for the children.

      Dentists should wear White Satin.

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    6. I've always wondered how many of those damned Ophthalmologists have engaged in a little sex-play following successful enucleation surgery.

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    7. Like a head-fuck victory lap.

      "I'll keep an eye out for you."

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    8. desert ratMon Sep 02, 10:52:00 AM EDT
      Assad Jr, yep he's a dentist by training.

      Yep your a moron

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    9. He specialized in eye teeth, quot.

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  25. "The resolution authorizes Obama to use the military as he determines "necessary and appropriate" to serve that goal."

    It was a lot more dramatic and exciting back in the 50's and 60's when that meant our

    "Nuclear Deterrent"

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  26. From Strangelove to Pottery Repair.

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    1. I've been fighting off girls in short skirts ever since.

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    2. Why would you fight them OFF? That's a Richard Simmons move.

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    3. Damn good question Miss T. I was just wondering the same.

      Sounds out of character too.

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    4. Well, actually it doesn't sound out of character.

      I just said that in a blog bs sort of way.

      I take it back. Was thoughtless.

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  28. One of those painted donkeys has a half-black half-white backwards facing rider.

    If only POTUS was half as imaginative.

    ...instead of half-assed.

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  29. WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama is inviting former foe Sen. John McCain to the White House, hoping one of Congress’ most intractable foreign policy hawks will help sell the idea of a U.S. military intervention in Syria to a nation deeply scarred by more than a decade of war.

    Bomb bomb bomb
    Bomb bomb Assad.

    I'll go for it, if McCain is required to ride shotgun in a B-1. Let's get some skin in the game.

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    1. He'd be glad to do it, I think. Probably volunteer for pilot.

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  30. Forget the B-1. Put him on a saddle and load him in a canister.

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    1. :)

      Slim Pickens!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snTaSJk0n_Y

      My very favorite all time actor.

      "A fist full of dollars, a belly full of beer"

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  31. Interesting timing here

    U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry asked the Iranian government on August 28 for assistance in sending three American home from Iran.

    Robert Levinson went missing from Kish Island, Iran in March 2007 and is believed to be held captive somewhere in Iran. The Iranian government denies any involvement in Levinson’s capture or detainment.

    The two other Americans, Amir Hekmati and Saeed Abedini, hold dual citizenship with Iran.

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    1. Get Levinson back.

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    2. From where, from whom?

      Who is holding Levinson, what if he just drowned, body lost at sea?

      Or in a mountain creviace.

      Maybe he is now a sex slave in someone's basement.
      Happened in Ohio, could happen in Iran.

      You certainly do not hold Bush/Obama responsible for those three women being held as sex toys, do you?

      People go missing all the time, all over the world.

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    3. You keep your horses in your basement?

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    4. No

      Don't have a basement
      I don't live in Ohio.

      Don't use horses for sex. I leave that to folks from the Middle East.
      Israelis and Arabs, mostly.
      Those twin sons of different mothers.

      That Abraham, he sure spread it around

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    5. I thought you said that the israelis were europeans?

      which is it rat?

      cant you get your slurs straight?

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    6. desert ratMon Sep 02, 11:50:00 AM EDT
      Don't have a basement


      But you do have a cave....


      ---> rat: Don't use horses for sex.

      That's not what your wife told me....

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    7. She told you I was lhung like a horse, you really need to get back to your ESL course, quot.

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    8. No she told me you liked to fuck horses, that's why she divorced you.

      Delete
    9. Shit fire, boy, I. Know your Spanish iisn't that good.
      But send me her number have not spoken to her in almost thirty years. What a hoot, the lyin' bitch is still alive

      The Mossad find her, for you?
      My boy, who has not heard from her in over a decade, he says she got to be as fat as your current wife.

      You fuckin' 'em in tandem?

      More bounce per ounce, I've heard said
      Is it true?

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    10. Good news Rat, she told me she aborted your last child together, that wasnt fat, that was pregnant

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    11. That was your wife that had my kid, quot. I offered to pay for an abortion, she said it'd be justice that you'd pay to raise my boy. I always wanted to sire a Jewish bastard. She let me me fulfill my fantasy

      If my other, older boy saw last saw his mother over a decade ago, fat, it was not with my child, calander won't let that happen. I have not seen her in almost thirty years.

      Caught yourself in another of your fantsies, quot.

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    12. sounds like you have quite the shitty family...

      no surprise.

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    13. Wow you and your sick fantasies back at you.

      My fantasy?

      The folks att the AZ FBI come and arrest your lying, criminal ass...

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  32. Kerry is very subtle in his statecraft.

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    1. That needs an irony alert.

      Subtle like the side of barn.

      I doubt he will hear back from them.

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  33. BYRON YORK:

    It was only after it became clear to Obama that he could not win acceptance in other, preferred, circles that he chose to go to Congress. Would he have sought congressional authorization if he had won United Nations approval for a Syrian attack? Highly unlikely. Would he have sought congressional authorization if the British Parliament had voted to join Obama’s action? Also unlikely. Even approval from the Arab League might have been enough for Obama to act.

    As it turned out, Obama achieved none of those goals and decided to seek congressional approval only after failing to win the international acceptance that apparently ranked higher on his list

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    1. Yup, he thinks more highly of The Arab League than the United States Congress.

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  34. Sarah is Sarah

    By Jessica Chasmar
    The Washington Times Sunday, September 1, 2013

    In a Facebook post titled “Let Allah Sort It Out,” former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin condemned President Obama’s decision to get further involved with the ongoing civil war in Syria.

    “So we’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I’m the idiot?” Mrs. Palin asked on Friday. “President Obama wants America involved in Syria’s civil war pitting the antagonistic Assad regime against equally antagonistic Al Qaeda affiliated rebels. But he’s not quite sure which side is doing what, what the ultimate end game is, or even whose side we should be on.”

    Mrs. Palin, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, argued that though Americans sympathize with the plight of innocent civilians in the war-torn country, the United States has “no clear mission in Syria,” and the president’s advertised war plan “has given Assad enough of a heads-up that he’s reportedly already placing human shields at targeted sites.”

    “Our Nobel Peace Prize winning President needs to seek Congressional approval before taking us to war,” she added.



    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/1/sarah-palin-were-bombing-syria-and-im-idiot/#ixzz2dkOB46ZE
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    1. She is not McCain.

      I voted for Sarah, hoping McCain might kick the bucket early on, and said so too!

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    2. Sarah, once again is showing symptomns of Jungle Fever.

      The US, the 'we' in we're, are not bombing Syria.

      She needs another innoculation, get her in touch with reality

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    3. There the Rat goes with black/white sexual accusations.

      I think he has issues.

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    4. You have to admit, though,

      “So we’re bombing Syria because Syria is bombing Syria? And I’m the idiot?”

      is one of the best quotes to come out of politics in years. :)

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    5. That makes me love you again, Rufus!

      Delete
    6. That makes me love you again, Rufus!

      Delete
    7. But the fact remains...

      We are not bombing Syria.

      Even if the Syrians are.

      Jungle Fever, it's spreading

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  35. Phyllis Bennis thinks a totalitarian regime can be dissuaded from slaughtering its own people by mere words.

    Had the Russians and the Chinese not vetoed comprehensive sanctions against Syria repeatedly, we would not have had to contemplate the use of military force to avert an even greater tragedy.

    Place the blame where it rightly belongs – with the backers of the Assad dictatorship. I don’t like war. But sometimes you need to counter an evil before it leads to more loss of human life.

    If 100,000 dead isn’t enough to get the Western Left to stand up and call for vigorous measures against a genocidal regime, what would be the point when they would say enough?

    Men, women and children are being killed daily and the Western Left doesn’t want to hold a murderous dictatorship accountable. That says it all.

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    1. 100,000 men women and children have been killed already, but now, if you accept al-Qaeda's numbers, 1% of those were killed by chem, no one knows what chem, or who did it. So I've got a better idea. Let's stay the fuck out of the Middle-East from now on.

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  36. You miss the point. The 100,000 dead are from many factions. There are no good guys in this fight. If you are against Assad and for the opposition, you are with Al Qaeda.

    “Vigorous measures” is another term for killing. There is no indication of genocide by the Syrian government. There is what appears to our eyes as being a ruthless pursuit of beating down internal threats to stability. In retrospect, as loathsome as it seems to you, it seems that it was necessary, in Iraq, Egypt, Libya and Syria.

    It is clearly practiced in Saudi Arabia. The one country in the ME that could have had a sixty year experience with democracy, but the US government and the CIA made sure that did not happen.

    Save your sanctimony on who has been for or against “murderous dictatorships”.

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    1. The Buccaneers are ALWAYS fighting for what's right and good!

      Delete
    2. Actually Israel has a history of democracy.

      So your statement should be "The only OTHER country in the middle east that could have had a sixty year experience with democracy"

      Like it or not? Israel if the safest, most free place in the middle east for moslems, christians, ba'jhais , jews, gays, transgendered, athiests, wiccans, bikini models, alcoholics and hedonists.

      israel is a great example of a pluralistic democracy.

      has been since 1948.

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    3. "israel is a great example of a pluralistic democracy."

      In the ME, maybe:

      In Avenal,

      No Way!

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    4. Avenal is a city in Kings County, California, United States.[2] Avenal is located 35 miles (56 km) southwest of Hanford,[3] at an elevation of 807 feet (246 m).[2] It is part of the Hanford–Corcoran Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA Code 25260), which encompasses all of Kings County. In area, it is the largest city in Kings County. The Zip Code for this community is 93204, and telephone numbers use the sequence (559) 386-XXXX. The population was 15,505 in the 2010 census, which includes inmates at the Avenal State Prison, the first prison actively solicited by a community in the state of California. Many of the remaining residents largely either work at the prison or in the agriculture industry. The prison provides approximately 1,000 jobs to residents. The California Department of Finance estimated that Avenal's population was 14,225 on January 1, 2013.[4] As of that date, Avenal State Prison held 4,973 inmates, which was about 35% of the total population of Avenal.[5] Inmates are counted as city residents by both the United States Census and the California Department of Finance.

      So 1/3 of the town's residents are prisoners...

      LOL

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    5. South Africa was a 'Democracy', too.
      As was Rhodesia.

      As iin Israel, today, both those aparthied democracies held tight controls on which voting blocs were allowed to vote.

      Like The Jim Crow South, here in the US, prior to 1968.

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    6. You just dont have a clue, but you do have a posting style like loose crap...

      Delete
    7. Is that why they call you "crapper"?

      Delete
    8. I am the proud creator of that name, and, yes, that is the reason.

      ....



      "Like it or not? Israel if the safest, most free place in the middle east for moslems, christians, ba'jhais , jews, gays, transgendered, athiests, wiccans, bikini models, alcoholics and hedonists."

      I am concerned that this does not adequately cover Quirk. Alcoholic and hedonist almost does it, but 'frauds' is lacking.

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  37. Replies
    1. ...the section right behind the "AHS" hedge is The Libary.

      Where I spent a lot of time.

      ...in detention.

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  38. Who's Norman?

    ...if he's a she, I vow to not run it off w/Misogyny.

    I still regret my past transgressions.

    honest

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    1. You never caled Melody a 'cunt', doug.

      The worst misogynist was boobie, may he rest in peace.

      I guess he is dead, he doesn't post any more.

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    2. People who live in glass houses should not throw rocks...

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    3. Or "look who's calling the kettle black"

      Delete
    4. Or "self confessed criminals have no rights"

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    5. Geeze, I thot I did.

      Boobie's not only a misogynist, he's a mindfucker!

      Bastard Mindfucking Misogynist!

      ...that's our Boobie.

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  39. Now this is bat shit funny...

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/egypt-destroys-homes-gaza-buffer-zone-20129535

    Egypt Destroys Homes for Possible Gaza Buffer Zone
    CAIRO September 1, 2013 (AP)

    Egypt's military has bulldozed 13 homes along the Gaza Strip border and caved in tunnels beneath them as a prelude to the possible creation of a buffer zone to reduce weapon smuggling and illegal militant crossings, angering residents who said they were evicted with no compensation, security officials and residents said Sunday.


    The military envisions creating a building-free zone with no trees 500 meters (1,640 feet) wide and 10 kilometers (6 miles) long starting at the Rafah border crossing and ending at the Mediterranean Sea, Northern Sinai government officials said. The homes were knocked down over the last 10 days as a test of the buffer zone idea in an area called el-Sarsoriya, a few kilometers (miles) from the Rafah crossing, while explosives were used to collapse the tunnels. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

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    1. What the Egyptians are WALLING off the savages of Gaza!!!!

      Too fucking funny..

      the outrage, the crime, oh the absolute hilarity of it all....

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    2. The Onion says if we attack Syria it will put thousands of honest, diligent American Tomahawk cruise missiles back to work.

      Delete
    3. Typical of what military governments do, but not typical of democracies.

      Oh, that's right, the Israeli practice similar housing removals, in the name of security.

      Egypt and Idrael, like peas in a pod

      US security partners, in the Middle East

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    4. The folks that live right on the border with Israel were Morsi voters. Sissy don't care about 'em.

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    5. Ms T, the border on which you speak doesnt side with Israel, learn to read a map.

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    6. desert ratMon Sep 02, 12:19:00 PM EDT
      Typical of what military governments do, but not typical of democracies.

      ANd you of all people KNOW what military dictatorships are, wasnt that who you taught how to murder civilians too?

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    7. No, quot, it was the Israeli government that sent weapons and mercs to run the genocide in Guatemala. It was the Israeli in Salvador that assistted the 'Death Squads'.

      Iran-Contra was all about the role the Israeli played.
      One of the major factors in why the scandal 'Went Away'

      But rest assured, the Israeli led the way, especially in Guatemala.Killing,'Darkies' by the score.

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  40. israel is a great example of a pluralistic democracy.

    Women to the back of the bus though.

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    1. WiO: So 1/3 of the town's residents are prisoners...

      WiO should talk. 1/3 of Israel's residents have to go through checkpoints just to buy food.

      Delete
    2. The Israeli have constructed a prision city state and our in house Israeli calls it good

      Happy Days, fer sur

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    3. TeresitaMon Sep 02, 12:25:00 PM EDT
      WiO: So 1/3 of the town's residents are prisoners...

      WiO should talk. 1/3 of Israel's residents have to go through checkpoints just to buy food.



      Come on Ms T, you KNOW that's just bullshit.

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    4. Ms T, are you lying just to get a rise out of me? Or are you just trying to look like a stupid, ill informed bigot?

      Delete
    5. desert ratMon Sep 02, 12:32:00 PM EDT
      The Israeli have constructed a prision city state and our in house Israeli calls it good



      And your last visit was when?

      Oh that's right, you cant travel overseas, those nasty international warrants for your arrest?

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    6. desert ratMon Sep 02, 12:32:00 PM EDT
      The Israeli have constructed a prision city state and our in house Israeli calls it good


      Calling me an "israeli" is a complement, but alias I am just an American. But unlike you? I am not a self confessed criminal-american.

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    7. Question for you Rat?

      Since you bragged so much about your crimes about spying on the AZ FBI and leaking classified intel out to the press are you not scared of arrest?

      Homeland Security should be looking for you, after all you have admitted the TSA has your number...

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    8. TeresitaMon Sep 02, 12:19:00 PM EDT
      israel is a great example of a pluralistic democracy.

      Women to the back of the bus though.


      Come one Ms T, you know your being like rat now.. Misleading and lying.

      You KNOW that you are exaggerating, if you choose to make comments like that, will you also post the position by the vast majority of Israelis and the Government of Israel lambasting that occurrence?

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    9. Yeah knock it off Miss T. You often go way too far.

      Delete
    10. Who are you, anoni, to say anything about Ms T?

      You are nobody.
      Have no history, no future

      You are dead

      Delete

    11. Then why do you keep attacking a non-entity?

      My daughter is my administrator, she will fix it one of these days.

      "There is something really wrong with you, Rat."

      Trish

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    12. "Why don't you take a hike, rat?"

      Whit

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    13. Attack?

      What lizard are you licking, anoni?

      I merely respond to your posts.

      That you hide behind skirts, does not make you a man.
      It makes you nothing but another pussy.

      Sign in, be somebody
      Or be a pussy behind a skirt

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    14. He's just showing that you are universally loved and admired, desert rat.

      Delete
  41. Who's Norman?

    ...if he's a she, I vow to not run it off w/Misogyny.

    I still regret my past transgressions.

    honest
    ------
    You should be, I liked her. I miss her. I always miss them all.

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  42. Iraqi Government Rejects US Strike on Syria, Fears Civil War

    Posted on 09/02/2013 by Juan Cole

    In his speech on Saturday on the Syria crisis, President Obama instanced Iraq among the countries that might suffer if the Baath regime were allowed to get away with using chemical weapons.

    The elected government of Iraq, however, says thanks but no thanks. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki categorically rejects a Western strike on Syria. Sectarian struggles lie behind this reaction.

    The Iraqi government has announced that it won’t permit the US to fly over Iraqi territory in the course of any operation against Syria.

    Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, of the Shiite ‘Islamic Call’ party, has forcefully rejected any outside attack on Syria. His government is said to fear that a US strike on Syria will produce social “chaos” that stretches from the Sunni areas in Syria into Anbar province (with its Sunni majority).

    Iraqi foreign minister Hoshyar Zebari admitted that Iraq was unable to stop the weapons flow from Iran to Syria.

    Muqtada al-Sadr, the leader of the hard line Sadr II bloc among Shiites, completely rejected any Western strike on Syria. Unlike most Iraqi Shiites, al-Sadr supports the Syrian revolution and says Syria should have free and fair elections so as to create a truly representative government. But al-Sadr reminded Syrians of the disasters visited on Iraq by sectarian faction-fighting and by American military occupation, and urged them to avoid both. Al-Sadr called for the Iraqis peacefully to demonstrate against any prospect of a US strike on Syria.

    The radical Shiite group Asa’ib ahl al-Haqq threatened retaliation against any US strike.

    In contrast, the Iraqiya Party that represents most Iraqi Sunnis is in favor of US military intervention against Syria.

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  43. Lindsey Graham is on Fox, with McCain, and he is talking about a 'new Syria'. Led by the 'moderates', after we 'go in'.

    Idiot!

    When what is needed is three or four Syrias.

    And Nancy Pelosi is for the bombing.

    What a chaos.

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    1. A stalemate, leading to a dissolution of Syria.

      If a little bombing weakens Assad's Air Force, it might be a good thing.

      Assad has been winning more than I realized. Arm the weaker party so they can't lose, can't win.

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  44. Turns out Norman works at the OGG!
    (Maui International Airport, morons.)

    I got it to page for

    "Harry Seeward!"

    Har de har har!

    :-)

    :-0 :-0 :-0 !!!

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  45. Rat's just pissed that his pals? The Moslem Brotherhood got their asses kicked in Egypt.

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    1. Yup, his hero Morsi sits in jail, awaiting trial.

      Meanwhile life in Israel goes along as usual.

      It's just too much for any rodent.

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  46. Always starts to lash out when he is emotionally frustrated.

    Which is most of the time.

    Quite unbecoming.

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    1. You didn't appreciate my Hairy Prank.

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  47. (That's the nickname I gave it.)

    It's always all about me.

    ...and it.

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  48. Actually IT cums first, to be honest.

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  49. .


    One man's view of Syria...

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/357364/unidentified-naval-officers-opinion-syria-john-fund


    .

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  50. I'm sure as Hell not going to call it my Dirty Hairy Rat.

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  51. .


    Looks like Lindsay and McCain found their third stooge living in the White House.


    .

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    1. It's LINDSEY you Retard!

      Lindsey Olin Graham

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    2. Known as "Number Two" to O'bamie and McCain.

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    3. All three are real stinkers.

      Delete
    4. .

      Lindsey?

      Heck, I thought he was the one the government paid for that sex-change operation for.

      The way he looks...

      Aw, must of been thinking of that other guy, Chelsea.

      .

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  52. Rufie's Environmental Valhalla

    California Republicans were flattened in last year’s elections, but this week they got off the ground and won a key special election for the state senate in a strongly Democratic area which is 60 percent Hispanic.

    Andy Vidak, a 47-year-old cherry farmer, won 54 percent of the vote in a sprawling district that stretches from Fresno to Bakersfield and is home to some 1 million people. Democrats hold a 22-point voter-registration advantage in the district, and Barack Obama carried it by 59 percent to 39 percent in 2008 against John McCain. It’s the area of California where NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson has his ranch.

    Vidak’s major issue was ending environmental rules that have choked off water allocations to Central Valley farmers. This year farmers south of the delta will receive only 20 percent of their contracted allocations. Smelt apparently need protection from the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta water pumps. Rather than deal with the wastewater from urban areas which are smelt’s biggest enemy, state officials are closing the spigot on the farms. Vidak summarizes the issue as being “fish versus farmer,” and liberals are enamored with the fish.

    Leticia Perez, a county supervisor from Bakersfield, was Vidak’s Democratic opponent. Her issues were raising California’s minimum wage by $1.25 an hour and backing a bullet train from the Bay Area to Los Angeles as a job-creation program. Vidak scoffed that the train was a boondoggle. ”We don’t have clean drinking water in some areas of our district,” he told the Wall Street Journal. “And they want to build an $80 billion bullet train!”

    Jim Brulte, a former leader of California state senate Republicans and the party’s state chairman, is cheered by the news of Vidak’s victory. While the issues he won on were local, environmental extremism may become a statewide issue next year as a renewable-energy mandate, cap and trade, and a low-carbon fuel standard are fully implemented. “As the issues liberals push hardest start hurting Californians, we will have opportunities to win,” he told me earlier this year.

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    1. Pelosi is Rufie's Valkyrie of choice.

      Delete
    2. Quite a web they weave:

      The Water also helps flush out the bay so the Silicon Valley Millionaires who support the party don't have to live next to an anaerobic swamp.

      ...like Mississippi.

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    3. Why doesn't he run his Flexmobile on Bio-diesel made from Snake Oil?

      He'd save enough to by a Solar Collector for his showers.

      ...if he takes them.

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    4. Er, he'd get a by from Obama.

      Couldn't expect him to pay for one himself.

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    5. That'd be like expecting him to pay for unsubsidized Ethanol, or Iowan's to vote Democrat w/o subsidized Corn.

      Ethanol Subsidies Backfire As Farm Bill Looms

      “A production mandate and an import tariff, combined with agricultural subsidies that increase as agribusinesses engage in riskier production practices and convert more land to corn, has resulted in higher costs for consumers, taxpayers and other industries.

      “While ethanol proponents such as the National Corn Growers Association promised several years ago that corn yields would keep up with the additional corn required for ethanol production, they failed to meet expectations. In fact, while corn ethanol production increased nearly eight-fold over the past decade, yields failed to keep up since corn production only increased by 25 percent, mainly due to an increase in corn acreage.”

      The farm bill moving through Congress plows the same old ground, while boosting subsidies for sugar – another ethanol source – as well as dubious government-backed crop insurance programs.

      “The subsidies encourage farmers to obtain so much coverage that they take risks no prudent operator would take. They plant on unsuitable land, knowing that if a crop fails, they can make a claim. They usually plant corn, the nation’s No. 1 cash crop, which is in demand partly from companies that brew it into ethanol fuel — an industry that owes its existence to more government subsidies,” according to the Chicago Tribune .

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  53. If you have the right insurance mix, private and USDA, a 100% hail wipe out is the best harvest of all harvests.

    Never did hit that jackpot though.

    Also if there is ten or fifteen percent of the crop left you can glean that and make a little, plus you can just cultivate the hailed seeds in and you are planted for next year.

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    1. Would that be selecting for seeds that would result in more profits in the future, or not?

      Obviously I haven't yet given it enough thought.

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    2. (To be honest, I tried, and it made my head hurt to even try to visualize what was actually going on down on the farm, so to speak.)

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    3. Naw, just a year thing. Just cultivate it in lightly.

      Downside is it might be a little heavily seeded, but I've seen it done.

      Actually I don't think you even have to cultivate it in, just let it volunteer and you've got the makings of a crop.

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    4. Has to be a fall seeded crop though, like winter wheat or winter peas.

      A spring seeded crop - no workee.

      Winter kill over the winter.

      "Never spray your domestic oats with wild oat killer"

      That no workee either.

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    5. We've had more than enough jokes at the Chinaman's expense, here, Sir!

      ...Hell, even the resident Flip is up in arms.

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    6. Obama orders the Poo Poo Platter and they bring him McCain and Lindsey.

      Delete
  54. Drudge Poll Open Now

    Should Congress Give Obama The Authority To Bomb Syria?

    YES 8.24% (10,473 votes)


    NO 91.76% (116,673 votes)



    Total Votes: 127,146

    Count updated as poll progresses.

    Make your vote count. Vote now.

    Less than 9% support so far.

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