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Wednesday, September 04, 2013

American, British and French politicians (FUKUS) claim that Nato’s military action in Libya in 2011 was an outstanding example of a successful foreign military intervention which should be repeated in Syria. Let’s take a look:

HERE IS WHAT OBAMA HAD TO SAY THEN:

AND NOW:

Special report: We all thought Libya had moved on – it has, but into lawlessness and ruin

Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi


TUESDAY 03 SEPTEMBER 2013

A little under two years ago, Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, urged British businessmen to begin “packing their suitcases” and to fly to Libya to share in the reconstruction of the country and exploit an anticipated boom in natural resources.
Yet now Libya has almost entirely stopped producing oil as the government loses control of much of the country to militia fighters.
Mutinying security men have taken over oil ports on the Mediterranean and are seeking to sell crude oil on the black market. Ali Zeidan, Libya’s Prime Minister, has threatened to “bomb from the air and the sea” any oil tanker trying to pick up the illicit oil from the oil terminal guards, who are mostly former rebels who overthrew Muammar Gaddafi and have been on strike over low pay and alleged government corruption since July.
As world attention focused on the coup in Egypt and the poison gas attack in Syria over the past two months, Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi two years ago. Government authority is disintegrating in all parts of the country putting in doubt claims by American, British and French politicians that Nato’s military action in Libya in 2011 was an outstanding example of a successful foreign military intervention which should be repeated in Syria.
In an escalating crisis little regarded hitherto outside the oil markets, output of Libya’s prized high-quality crude oil has plunged from 1.4 million barrels a day earlier this year to just 160,000 barrels a day now. Despite threats to use military force to retake the oil ports, the government in Tripoli has been unable to move effectively against striking guards and mutinous military units that are linked to secessionist forces in the east of the country.
Libyans are increasingly at the mercy of militias which act outside the law. Popular protests against militiamen have been met with gunfire; 31 demonstrators were shot dead and many others wounded as they protested outside the barracks of “the Libyan Shield Brigade” in the eastern capital Benghazi in June.
Though the Nato intervention against Gaddafi was justified as a humanitarian response to the threat that Gaddafi’s tanks would slaughter dissidents in Benghazi, the international community has ignored the escalating violence. The foreign media, which once filled the hotels of Benghazi and Tripoli, have likewise paid little attention to the near collapse of the central government.
The strikers in the eastern region Cyrenaica, which contains most of Libya’s oil, are part of a broader movement seeking more autonomy and blaming the government for spending oil revenues in the west of the country. Foreigners have mostly fled Benghazi since the American ambassador, Chris Stevens, was murdered in the US consulate by jihadi militiamen last September. Violence has worsened since then with Libya’s military prosecutor Colonel Yussef Ali al-Asseifar, in charge of investigating assassinations of politicians, soldiers and journalists, himself assassinated by a bomb in his car on 29 August.
Rule by local militias is also spreading anarchy around the capital. Ethnic Berbers, whose militia led the assault on Tripoli in 2011, temporarily took over the parliament building in Tripoli. The New York-based Human Rights Watch has called for an independent investigation into the violent crushing of a prison mutiny in Tripoli on 26 August in which 500 prisoners had been on hunger strike. The hunger strikers were demanding that they be taken before a prosecutor or formally charged since many had been held without charge for two years.
The government called on the Supreme Security Committee, made up of former anti-Gaddafi militiamen nominally under the control of the interior ministry, to restore order. At least 19 prisoners received gunshot shrapnel wounds, with one inmate saying “they were shooting directly at us through the metal bars”. There have been several mass prison escapes this year in Libya including 1,200 escaping from a prison after a riot in Benghazi in July.  
The Interior Minister, Mohammed al-Sheikh, resigned last month in frustration at being unable to do his job, saying in a memo sent to Mr Zeidan that he blamed him for failing to build up the army and the police. He accused the government, which is largely dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, of being weak and dependent on tribal support. Other critics point out that a war between two Libyan tribes, the Zawiya and the Wirrshifana, is going on just 15 miles from the Prime Minister’s office.
Diplomats have come under attack in Tripoli with the EU ambassador’s convoy ambushed outside the Corinthia hotel on the waterfront. A bomb also wrecked the French embassy.
One of the many failings of the post-Gaddafi government is its inability to revive the moribund economy. Libya is wholly dependent on its oil and gas revenues and without these may not be able to pay its civil servants. Sliman Qajam, a member of the parliamentary energy committee, told Bloomberg that “the government is running on its reserves. If the situation doesn’t improve, it won’t be able to pay salaries by the end of the year”.

168 comments:

  1. To really appreciate the vision, prescience and genius of Obama, go to the fifteen minute mark. At the 21:00 mark Obama waxes on the brilliance of his leadership. Awe inspiring he is. The great helmsman, barely able to shield us from the inner luminosity created by the cosmic collusion of intellect , determination, spiritual fervor and humility.

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  2. Obama reminds us of the great strides made in Iraq and is mindful of the exciting events to come in Egypt. Let’s take a look:

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  3. IRAQ - Officials say gunmen have attacked two Shiite families south of Iraq’s capital, Baghdad, killing 11 and wounding six others.

    A police officer said Wednesday that gunmen first opened fire on the two houses late Tuesday in the largely Sunni town of Latifiyah and then planted bombs around them. He said that five children, three women and three men were killed.

    Last Wednesday, gunmen shot dead a seven-member Shiite family in the same town, about 30 kilometers (20 miles) south of Baghdad.

    The killings raise Tuesday's death toll in shootings and bombings across the country to at least 78 people killed.

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  4. Afghanistan

    - General Sayed Mohammad Roshandel is not a man who scares easily: he spent years battling both the insurgency and corruption in a violent province on the Afghan-Iranian border, and several more facing down the Taliban in Kabul’s crowded, dusty streets, under the full glare of the world’s media.

    But earlier this summer, the officer who had risen from an ordinary background to become head of special forces for the Afghan police slipped away from an official work trip to Europe, crossing into Denmark, where he intended to apply for political asylum, sources with knowledge of his trip told the Guardian. The interior ministry, to which Roshandel reports, confirmed he had been in Europe for over two months, but said he was on extended leave to deal with family issues.

    A few weeks after Roshandel's journey, a pioneering army helicopter pilot, Latifa Nabizada, hailed as Afghanistan's Amelia Earhart, made her last landing and shifted to a desk job in the ministry of defence, after a barrage of Taliban threats against her family became too intense.

    The news of both moves has been hushed up in Kabul, where they are perhaps the most high-profile examples of a more widespread problem facing the country's police and army. At a time when they are meant to be taking over the fight against a ruthless, battle-hardened insurgency, and as the west moves into a support role, the forces are haemorrhaging more than a few good men. And women.

    Many of the losses are deaths and injuries in battle, with casualties mounting up at a rate that senior Afghan and Nato commanders both admit poses a serious risk to morale. But thousands more are men, and a few women, who go awol or simply don't renew their contracts.

    Nato and the Afghan government have hailed the expansion of the police and army to a 350,000-strong force in the space of just a few years of intense recruitment and development; the west didn't really turn its focus to training them until 2009.

    But there have long been concerns about the durability of such a rapidly assembled force. A recent US government report found that in the six months to March 2013, the Afghan national army lost men at an average rate of over 3% each month. That amounts to over a third of its total strength each year, an alarming number.

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  5. EGYPT

    (Reuters) - Egypt's interim president, Adly Mansour, said on Tuesday that a plan for a return to civilian government after the army's removal of Islamist President Mohamed Mursi was on track despite "challenges" and that emergency law should be lifted soon.

    His comments were broadcast just after thousands of Islamists took to the streets in towns and cities across Egypt on Tuesday evening to denounce the new military-backed rulers and demand Mursi's return - their second show of mass support in four days.

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  6. John Kerry

    US Secretary of State John Kerry said tonight that a resolution in Congress on the use of military force in Syria should not remove the option of using US ground troops.

    However, he stressed there was “no intention" of inserting American soldiers into Syria's civil war.

    At the first public hearing in Congress on potential military action in Syria, Mr Kerry said “it would be preferable" not to preclude the use of ground troops.

    He said it was better to preserve President Barack Obama’s options if there was a potential threat of chemical weapons falling into the hands of extremists.

    "I don't want to take off the table an option that might or might not be available to a president of the United States to secure our country," Mr Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

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  7. I think I like this feller -



    Fuck CC Fuck MB

    https://twitter.com/mlnahas/status/373382265436647424/photo/1

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    Egyptian newspaper claims that Obama is member of Muslim Brotherhood

    If he really were a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, how would he be acting any differently from the way he is acting now? I doubt he is actually a member, but he has favored the group in Egypt and its auxiliaries in the U.S. every step of the way.

    (Thanks to Pamela Geller.)

    Posted by Robert on September 3, 2013 6:54 PM | 5 Comments

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    gerard | September 3, 2013 8:06 PM | Reply
    The only to make sense of Oburkha's decisions is to assume he is a fully committed supporter of MB if not an actual member.

    gerard replied to comment from gerard | September 3, 2013 8:07 PM | Reply
    The only way to...

    Kepha | September 3, 2013 9:04 PM | Reply
    I would always triple-check anything reported in the state-run media of any Arab country. Before the recent unrest in Egypt, I wouldn't be surprised if some reporters for the Egyptian media didn't firmly believe that Obama is a Jew.

    If Obama were just a teenaged punk on the street, I could imagine him being recruited by the MB. But in his current position and with his record, I suspect his policies towards the Middle East reflect being clueless on foreign policy and surrounded by other clueless people.

    Chaz Martel | September 4, 2013 3:45 AM | Reply
    Obama has definitely favored the U.S. auxiliaries of the Muslim Brotherhood by routinely consulting with ISNA, unindicted co-conspirators for the charge of raising funds for Hamas.

    ISNA, among others, has long been recognized as fronts for the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S. and Obama has frequently treated their leaders like honored guests in the White House since he first assumed office in 2008.

    EYESOPEN replied to comment from Kepha | September 4, 2013 4:16 AM | Reply
    No dear Kepha. I do not believe that OBummer is clueless. I think sinister would be the more appropriate word here.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/egyptian-newspaper-claims-that-obama-is-member-of-muslim-brotherhood.html

    ............

    ISNA

    We need someone around here to look into ISNA.

    Islamic_Society_of_North_America

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_of_North_America

    They are always hanging out around the White House.

    And people here complain about AIPAC.

    "ISNA, among others, has long been recognized as fronts for the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S. and Obama has frequently treated their leaders like honored guests in the White House since he first assumed office in 2008."

    >>>My muslim faith....oops, I mean my Christian...<<<

    O'blunder in interview

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    1. What do you think folks? Is O'blunder MB, is O'blunder a Moslem?

      Seems he is always on their side, does it not?

      Egypt, Libya, Syria.....

      Is Lester Crown a closet Moslem? Secret member of MB?

      :)

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    2. Obama and the wife are never at the White House, they are with Lester or his son, when the Muslims come visiting the White House.

      You want to understand who influences Obama go see who he visits not who wants to visit him.

      Lester is no Muslim and either is Obama.
      Both of them are Jewish.

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    3. Bill Clinton, he was called the first Black President.
      Barack Obama, he is our first Jewish President.

      Hard to tell just by looking but facts are facts.

      It all flows back through their mommas.
      No knows for sure who the daddies were.

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    4. When white girls get that Jungle Fever there's just no stopping them.

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  8. Obama addresses convention of Hamas- and Muslim Brotherhood-linked ISNA


    "The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) was established in July 1981 by U.S-based members of the Muslim Brotherhood with a background as leaders of the Muslim Students Association (MSA). As author and terrorism expert Steven Emerson puts it, ISNA “grew out of the Muslim Students Association, which also was founded by Brotherhood members.” Indeed, Muslim Brothers would dominate ISNA's leadership throughout the Society's early years. Striving “to advance the cause of Islam and serve Muslims in North America so as to enable them to adopt Islam as a complete way of life,” ISNA was highly dependent upon Saudi funding during its early years." -- from Discover the Networks

    From the Investigative Project on Terrorism:

    In its latest filing before the federal district court in Dallas on behalf of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and its affiliate organization, the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) in the Hamas-terrorism financing case, the ACLU has made a noteworthy admission.
    Rather than deny that there is copious evidence tying ISNA and NAIT to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, the brief argues that such evidence is merely dated. In a curious footnote on page 7, the reply states:

    Assuming the authenticity of documents' dates, the most recent documents to mention either ISNA or NAIT are dated 1991, Gov. Exhs. 3-3 and 3-85, but the majority of the documents are older. Almost all of the numerous exhibits that purport to show financial transactions and that contain any mention of ISNA or NAIT are dated 1988 and 1989 (there are two dated 1990), almost a decade before the majority of the overt acts the government alleges in support of its conspiracy charges against the HLF defendants.

    So ISNA and NAIT are not saying that the documents tying their organizations to Hamas are "inauthentic," but that the problem with the evidence is just that it is old. Then, even more curiously, the reply goes on to argue something that the government has not even alleged:

    Even if the "evidence" provided some basis for alleging criminality against petitioners, the government's discussion of it shows the government utterly fails to grasp the singular weight and consequence that an official accusation of criminal conduct carries in our criminal justice system and in our society.

    But, of course, the government has not charged ISNA or NAIT with criminal conduct, or the two groups would be indicted in their own right, rather than un-indicted co-conspirators who worked with the Holy Land for Relief and Development (HLF), the defendant and alleged Hamas-front. The reply brief then, as Shakespeare might write, "doth protest too much."

    Video thanks to Pamela Geller.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/obama-addresses-convention-of-hamas--and-muslim-brotherhood-linked-isna.html

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  9. Give a damn.

    Join AIPAC now.

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    1. .

      Give a damn?

      Now that you are on the inside, get AIPAC to register as an agent of a foreign government.

      .

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    2. Fuck that bunch of hyphenated Israelis

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    3. Sorry Quirk your WANT is baseless.

      AIPAC is an American organization, made up of American citizens.

      Promoting the shared friendship and cooperation between Israel and America.

      You are just wrong on this issue.

      But it's good to see your head is still up your ass

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    4. AIPAC is a lobby for a foreign state, Israel.

      All of us who belong know that implicitly.
      WiO is just pulling your chain Quirk.

      Having some of his fun, using misdirection.
      It was in the second chapter of the "How To" handbook we get after paying the membership fee

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    5. If you don't pay the fee they won't send the handbook.
      Chock full of propaganda points on promoting Israel.

      You fellers should join AIPAC just to get the book. It is wonderful reading, really awesome stuff.



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    6. A great many of us AIPAC members are dual nationals, they carry Israeli passports.
      It is kind of like going up to the next level.

      The 33rd step so to speak.
      You get to access more of the ancient knowledge when you get that Israeli passport.

      I'm saving gefilte fish labels, need 500 of them to put in the Israeli passport application.
      They accept those labels as proof of the applicants Jewishness.
      Guarantees my right of return to a place I've never been.

      Won't Mat be surprised!

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    7. I see Rat "discovered" anon usage...

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  10. September 4, 2013
    An Obama Fairytale for Our Time
    By Bill Schanefelt

    In the manner that the late Andy Rooney often introduced his commentary on maters great and small, permit me to say, "I don't know about you, but this story about the 'Walk on the White House Grounds' seems to be a pretty implausible one."

    The myth-makers scribbling away on behalf of the endless campaign have told their sympathetic spinners in the liberal media that those sycophants should make us trust that, sometime in the late afternoon last Friday, FOTUS (Fabulist of the United States) strolled into the West Wing or looked up from his seat and said to his Chief-of-Staff, Denis McDonough, something like, "How about let's you and me get out of these miserable, air-conditioned rooms and go for a walk."

    The two were supposed to have then stepped out into 90-degree heat (and, one must assume, an August day's stifling humidity) and for 45 (sweat-drenched) minutes ambled up and down the paths or across the perfectly-manicured South Lawn of the Executive Mansion while the Commander-in-Chief of the mightiest military on Earth revealed that he had decided that it was imperative that he beg unnecessary leave of the Peoples' Representatives before unleashing those prodigious forces to inflict limited harm on a great foe of the peace-loving societies of the world.

    If you believe that, then I ask you to pause later when I will take the time to disclose to you how it was that a young girl from Kansas and her little dog met some wonderful little people and other marvelous characters with the aid of a very helpful wind.


    http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/an_obama_fairytale_for_our_time.html


    This entire episode has the odor of Lester Crown to me.

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    1. Does Lester smell different than other people?
      Is it his diet or some kind of genetic defect?
      Does his wife have that same distinctive odor about her?
      How about their son, little Jimmy, is he odorous as well?

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    2. All stink to high heaven, especially the wife.

      The current thinking is it is something about the diet.

      Dining out with them is an experience I can tell you.

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    3. Is it the gefilte fish?

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  11. Nine Women Remaking the Right
    by Patricia Murphy Sep 3, 2013 4:45 AM EDT

    They’re talented, they’re diverse, and they have almost nothing to do with the mess in Washington. Patricia Murphy on nine women breathing new life into the GOP.


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/03/9-women-remaking-the-right.html

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    1. Nine women that are talented, diverse and have almost nothing to do with the Republican Party.

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    2. Talk about McCain, Boehner, Cantor and Graham.
      They ARE the Republican Party.

      They are marching in lock step with Oblunder.

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    3. The idea that the Republicans represent the Right or Conservatives in the US is just laughable.

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    4. Visiting the White House, just like the Muslims.

      The Republican speaker of the House of Representatives, John Boehner, said taking action is something "the United States as a country needs to do."

      Boehner emerged from a meeting at the White House and said the United States has "enemies around the world that need to understand that we're not going to tolerate this type of behavior."


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    5. By the Anonymous Doctrine the fact that Boehner visited the White House, that makes Obama a Republican.
      Or Boehner a Democrat.
      Guess that decision is for the Ombudsman at Anonymous Anoni R Us to decide.

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  12. Calif. Teen Invents 20-Second Cell Phone Charger

    What had you accomplished by the time you were 18?

    California native Eesha Khare won a $50,000 scholarship for inventing a supercapacitor that can charge a cell phone in about 20 seconds.

    The Harvard-bound teenager last week received one of two Intel Foundation Young Scientist Awards for her work with energy-efficient storage devices.

    Her invention, which weighs in just over an inch long, according to CNN, pushed Khare to the top of the class, helping her beat about 1,600 young scientists who competed in the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair. Watch an excited Khare accepting her award in the video below.

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    1. CNN
      ""I developed a new supercapacitor, which is basically an energy storage device which can hold a lot of energy in a small amount of volume," she told KPIX 5. The technology may also be able to speed up charging of automobile batteries, she said.

      A videotape of the award ceremony showed an ecstatic Khare trotting up to the stage when her name was announced in Phoenix, then standing with other winners as the audience at the fair applauded and confetti fell on them.

      The award includes a $50,000 prize that will come in handy when Khare heads to Harvard in the fall, she told KPIX 5. With a laugh, she predicted that "I will be setting the world on fire.""

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    2. "I will be setting the world on fire"

      She is going to become a terrorist?

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  13. Of course the Republican leadership wants this war. Big Oil wants the war.

    Obama is owned by the CIA; and, the CIA wants the war.

    Nancy Pelosi is owned by AIPAC, and AIPAC wants the war.

    The Media is owned by the need for relevance; they want the war.

    Only the American Public doesn't want the war; and all they have on their side are some tea-partiers, and liberal congressmen.

    Me? To quote the old song, "I'll have another toke."

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    1. "Super-Capacitors" have a tendency to burn up everything around them.

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    2. Personally, I think we're going to keep f'n this oily chicken until we're ALL dead broke.

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    3. You want to know who "won" in Libya? Go to Bloomberg, and check out the price of oil ($114.00 bbl.)

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    4. What would the price of oil be if that 1.4 Million bbl/day was still online? I don' know, but I bet it'd be less than $114.00/bbl.

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    5. Those Saudi Arabians are just on a roll.

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    6. Big ethanol wants this war. There will be a war.

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    7. Yes they are. As that old Saudi King said, "It's good to live atop a sea of oil."

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    9. Rufus:

      The Internet uses as much energy as the World did in 1985!

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    10. It's good to live atop a corn crib, I say.

      Rufus, have you seen the news??!!

      Your guy didn't set the Red Line.

      The 'world' and Congress set the Red Line.

      Your guy had nothing to do with it!!!

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    11. Not me, boss. Not Me. I din't do it.

      McCain's out. Wants a "Bigger" War.

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    12. How can we blame a man for 'thinking big'.

      It's what made our country great.

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  14. Motown Monday ~ I Want A Love I Can See ~ The Temptations

    Written by Smokey Robinson
    Released in 1963

    Lead vocals by Paul Williams
    Background vocals by Eddie Kendricks,
    Al Bryant, and Otis Williams
    Instrumentation: The Funk Brothers

    How in the world this didn’t become the very first hit for ” The Temptations ” is beyond me.

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    1. That is good.

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    2. We need a hit single "I Didn't Set The Red Line".

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  15. Good Lord!!

    O'blunder is now saying he never set a Red Line!

    It's all a misunderstanding:

    "First of all, I didn't set a red line," said Obama. "The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world's population said the use of chemical weapons are [inaudble] and passed a treaty forbidding their use, even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty. Congress set a red line when it indicated that in a piece of legislation entitled the Syria Accountability Act that some of the horrendous things happening on the ground there need to be answered for. So, when I said in a press conference that my calculus about what's happening in Syria would be altered by the use of chemical weapons, which the overwhelming consensus of humanity says is wrong, that wasn't something I just kind of made up. I didn't pluck it out of thin air. There's a reason for it."


    The 'world' set the Red Line, the world and Congress.

    Now Congress will HAVE to vote for this war, cause they set the Red Line themselves.

    And the entire world will back the war, cause they set the Red Line.

    O'blunder may be the only person on earth who had nothing to do with setting the Red Line.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-i-didnt-set-red-line-syria_752712.html

    You can see O'blunder not setting the Red Line at the site above, even though it looks like he is setting a Red Line.

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    1. O'blunder merely articulated the position of the US and the civilized world.
      He did not set the standard, only confirmed its existence.

      The Republicans are standing shoulder to shoulder with their Maximuous Leader, Barack Hussein Obama.





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    2. So is Nancy Pelosi.

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    3. Come on guys and gals the President needs your full support

      Vote Republican and he will get it!

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    4. It is expected of Nancy Pelosi.
      Who expected it of the Republicans, too.

      That rodent was right, it is all about domestic politics.

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    5. Obama has rolled the Republicans into a tight little package.
      Sweetness is watching a "Master" do his thing.

      That Obama, he is like a sweet piece of pareve chocolate.

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    6. Eleanor says that Obama is sweeter than pareve chocolate, but then she is suffering from an extreme case of Jungle Fever.

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  16. John Stewart said the "red line" is just a dick-measuring ribbon.

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    1. The Official Measurement is taken from the center of your anus to just past the tip.

      - Carolla

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    2. Stewart says our war plan is "we'll just put in the tip."

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    3. The World of Science depends on accurate, repeatable measurements.

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    4. Well, they're all dicks.

      Have a good day fellers, I got thins to do.

      out

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    5. All this time we thought you went for the fatties.
      Now you are going to go do some thins.

      Your preferences have changed as you've grown older?

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    6. Is it the gefilte fish?

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  17. Drivin' around is getting cheap in Iowa:

    $2.39/gal

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    1. ... and the Gefilte Fish!

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    1. Bye bye you American Pie!

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    2. I always was partial to Doug McClure, but he died in '95.

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  20. You are all guilty of setting the red line.

    Everyone is guilty but Obama of setting the red line.

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  21. Obama's credibility in not on the line.

    Your credibility, and that of the international community and the Congress, is on the line.

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    1. My credibility is certainly NOT on the line.
      How dare you make such an assertion!

      The International Community
      Who the fuck is that?

      Iran, Russia, China, India?
      Should we throw in Brazil, Argentina and Holland?

      None of those members of the International Community their credibility at stake.
      Mexico certainly does not, nor do the Canadians.

      You are speaking out of your ass, anoni.

      I am reporting you to the Ombudsman of Anonymous Anoni R Us!

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    2. The credibility of the British is secure.
      The Polish have bowed out.

      The French and the US still have to decide if their intel is credible.
      We all know that General Clapper will lie, if he thinks that the Congress and the people of the US cannot handle the truth. He remains on the job. His veracity sets the standard for truth accepted from the the intelligence services by our elected officials.

      How can any sane and literate adult trust General Clapper, his agency or their work product?

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    3. General Clapper sets the standard of the level of truthfulness with which members of the Intelligence Community can be expected to report.

      We all know that it is a Slam Dunk if the NSA and CIA tell US it is.

      Past performance proves the point.

      In Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria.

      In each we can point to egregious intelligence failures, costing US blood and fortune.
      Why assume the CIA and NSA have suddenly become credible now?

      General Clapper is still there, the culture of the agencies has not changed one iota.

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  22. More validation that Obama is a closet Jew

    STOCKHOLM (AP) - President Barack Obama is drawing parallels between the actions of a Swedish diplomat who saved Jews during the Holocaust and the action he wants the world to take to help Syria's people.

    Jews are so Judaic centric. They always make it about them, just a Obama is doing in Sweden. Making attacking Syria the equivalent of saving Jews from the NAZI ovens.

    That is covered in Chapter 4.

    Obama is a tad off the central message with the comparison but he is carrying a lot of water for Israel. He must not have had his teleprompter.

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    1. Chapter 4 - When all else fails compare your adversary to the NAZI

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  23. As the White House stepped up its efforts to secure political approval for retaliatory strikes on the regime of Bashar Assad, Putin said acting without the approval of the U.N. Security Council “can only be interpreted as an aggression."

    Hear Here!

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    1. Vladimir he is right as rain

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    2. georgia, chechnya, east germany, poland...

      and too many more to list

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    3. Hear Here!

      Pretty good copycatting, anon.

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    4. Already listed Poland and there is no East Germany you half assed twit.

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  24. Any failure to respond to the suspected Aug. 21 poison gas attack near Damascus would increase the risk of further attacks, Obama said. There was no dispute that chemical weapons had been used, he said, adding:
    “The only question is ‘who used them?’”


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    1. O'blunder, he is right a rain, too.
      Just who pulled the trigger, who is behind the mask?

      Only the Shadow knows

      O'blunder and Clapper, we cannot trust them to tell the truth.
      McCain certainly has not got the first clue, he hangs with kidnappers when he is over there.

      We could ask the Shadow but who would believe Alex Baldwin?

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  25. (RIA Novosti) – Russian President Vladimir Putin said US leader Barack Obama’s decision to cancel a planned visit to Moscow was “no particular disaster.”

    “I would like the US president to visit Moscow so that we have an opportunity to talk, to discuss issues that have emerged. But I also see no particular disaster in [the cancellation],” Putin said

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  26. A NO vote from this Senator!

    Sen. John McCain says he doesn't support the latest Senate resolution to authorize military force against Syria.

    McCain is an outspoken advocate of intervention against Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime and wants more than cruise missile strikes and other limited action.

    The Arizona Republican threatened earlier this week to vote against a White House draft resolution unless President Barack Obama promised greater support to Syria's rebels. McCain then expressed support after meeting Obama at the White House.

    He now opposes a resolution crafted by Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey and Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee. It puts a 90-day limit on action and says no American troops can be sent into Syria.

    Asked if he supported it, McCain said, "In its current form, I do not."

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    1. 90 days ain't 90 years, but if that's all he gets, he'll take it.

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  27. More from John McCain, Republican United States Senator:

    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) blasted Fox News' Brian Kilmeade on Tuesday for questioning members of a Syrian opposition groups' use of the phrase "Allahu Akbar" after what Kilmeade said "looks like a fighter jet being shot out of the sky."

    “I have a problem helping those people screaming that after a hit,” Kilmeade said.

    McCain criticized Kilmeade for his skepticism of the phrase, which means "God is greater" or "God is the greatest" in Arabic.

    “Would you have a problem with an American person saying ‘Thank God? Thank God?'" McCain said. “That’s what they're saying. Come on! Of course they're Muslims, but they're moderates and I guarantee you they are moderates.”


    Kilmeade has John McCain's guarantee.
    With that and Cindy's signature and he can go to the bank.

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  28. For the record: This op-ed piece pretty well sums up my opinion of the proposed Syrian 'action':

    "Syria is not a test of U.S. leadership


    Jeffrey Simpson

    The Globe and Mail


    Published Wednesday, Sep. 04 2013, 6:00 AM EDT


    U.S. President Barack Obama seems set to enter the swamps of Syria, with the Canadian government offering political support, without an answer to the question: What next after the bombs fall and the missiles fly?

    For three years after the civil war began, Mr. Obama refrained. He promised humanitarian aid and delivered a little. He belatedly promised arms to rebels and delivered some – at least to rebels deemed to be “good guys” as opposed to the rebels, such as al-Qaeda supporters, who are “bad guys.”

    He declared that Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad had to “go,” but understood that removing him would likely require a huge U.S. commitment up to and including “boots on the ground,” a deployment that would draw his country into a civil conflict of almost unfathomable complexity.

    Which leads to the obvious question: Why now, suddenly, does Mr. Obama propose air strikes?

    Previous U.S. and British intelligence reports had suggested perhaps a dozen previous uses of chemical weapons since the war began. This prompted the President to draw a “red line” around further use of chemical weapons. When leaders draw red lines and they are crossed, they feel compelled to act. Which is where we are now, after the largest use of chemicals by Mr. Assad’s government.

    Even this red line is imperfectly drawn. British intelligence says there were “at least 350 fatalities.” Mr. Obama says it was “well over 1,000 people.” And U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says, with absurd precision, that 1,429 people died, including 426 children, a number apparently plucked from an unreliable Syrian source called the Local Co-ordination Committees.

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    1. By chemical weapons or other means, such deaths are terrible. But there have been tens of thousands of them so far in Syria’s civil war. Mr. Obama now declares this particular use of chemical weapons to be the “red line” requiring a U.S. military assault. By delaying so long, and now deciding to seek congressional approval, he has given Mr. Assad’s regime plenty of warning to disperse its assets. Even if the assault does damage, it will in no way clarify or decisively swing the conflict militarily.

      For that to happen, Washington and its allies – another coalition of the willing – would truly have to enter the fray, which they are not prepared to do. They certainly are not going to do an Iraq or an Afghanistan, sending masses of troops and weaponry into a confusing, bloody conflict, with no assurance of a decisive outcome.

      It is easy to argue, as many high-minded and sincere people have, that the United States should do something to stop the immediate killing, without proposing anything concrete or viable as to how.

      The Bosnian and Kosovo war analogies – bomb them to the bargaining table – has no force, since by bombs alone Syria’s hellish war will not end. Nor is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization capable of being mobilized, as it was in the European theatre.

      Vali Nasr, an outstanding scholar at Johns Hopkins whose argument is shared by many, puts the case for robust intervention this way: Failure to act “decisively and in a timely manner” to “mortally wound the Assad regime” would show that the United States is “no longer keen on leading the world.” Lack of such action would “embolden America’s allies and deject its friends.” Moreover, “there can be no resolution without American leadership.”

      This is precisely the line of thinking that has gotten the United States into trouble before: International crises are all tests of American “leadership.” It presumes that Washington can resolve all problems with “decisive action.” Failure to intervene massively – which is what it would take to “mortally wound” the Assad regime – would demonstrate weakness.

      It is a variance of the classic domino-theory trap: If the U.S. doesn’t act, it cannot be counted upon to do so in another situation, and another, until instability reigns.

      The United States remains the world’s undisputed military leader. It can act whenever it wants. Reluctance to do so in one case – this one – is not necessarily a test case for its leadership. Instead, it may reflect a mature, realpolitik judgment that no one yet has defined, or can define, what comes after the bombs and missiles fly."

      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/syria-is-not-a-test-of-us-leadership/article14088999/#dashboard/follows/

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    2. Drop the Ash, Ash, and the potato, and sign in as The Globe and Mail.

      Delete
    3. This from b00bie the parrot of American Thinker - priceless!

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    4. Like the walrus, boobie is dead.

      There are only the Anoni left.
      Waiting for the Blue Star Kachina to remove the mask.

      Delete
    5. Wasn't the walrus Paul??
      They said he was dead, back when I was a freshman in High School.

      You fellas have had a grand old time today, aye!

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  29. >>>>That degree of public hesitance is being reflected in members' reactions. The Washington Post found 105 representatives in the House opposed or leaning toward opposition, with just 16 publicly supporting.

    For vote-counting purposes, the most important divide isn't between hawks and doves. It's between members in tough districts and safe seats. With military intervention unpopular, few at-risk members are sticking their necks out to support the president, even those from his own party. These members are acutely sensitive to public opinion, and self-survival is often more important than taking one for the team.<<<<

    Obama Bets the House on Syria—and Is Losing

    Early reaction shows the president has a long way to go to win congressional approval for a military strike.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/obama-bets-the-house-on-syria-and-is-losing-20130903

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  30. September 4, 2013
    Obama blames 'the world' for his foolish red line ultimatum
    Thomas Lifson

    The dog didn't eat his homework, but Barack Obama's latest attempt in Sweden to blame somebody else for the mess he has gotten himself into is scarcely more plausible. If you haven't heard yet, Lesley Clark of McClatchy writes:
    President Barack Obama on Wednesday declared the world's credibility "is on the line" when it comes to punishing Syrian President Bashar Assad for his regime's purported use of chemical weapons.

    Speaking at a press conference in Stockholm, Sweden, ahead of a global economic summit in Russia where he will seek to rally support for a U.S. military strike against Syria, Obama said the "red line" he set against a year ago against Syria's use of chemical weapons isn't his, but an international standard.

    "I didn't set a red line, the world set a red line," Obama said. "My credibility's not on the line. The international community's credibility is on the line. And America and Congress's credibility's on the line."

    Michelle Obama's Mirror has wicked fun with this preposterous propaganda line:

    This new tact is no doubt the work of his old trusted team of really big brains: the Axelrod, Gibbs, Plouffe and Favreau Brain Squad (BS) team was called into an emergency session yesterday to "coordinate the administration's message strategy on Syria," as it continued to spin totally out of control, i.e., Big Guy's favorability polls are dropping like rockets. Because everyone knows that what we need now, more than a strategy, is a messagestrategy.
    Maybe the BS would be better utilized going to work for General Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who's still unable to tell Congress exactly what the U.S. is seeking to accomplish in Syria. (snip)

    This turn of tables is clearly the result of having called in the Brain Squad (BS) whose sole strategy in the past has been to blame stuff on everybody else. BO then criticized the do-nothing Congress for dithering on the authorization of his "Syria Accountability Act" or, as ACE calls it, "Operation Enduring Hesitation." And while the BS team likes that turn of phrase, they've softened it to "Operation Enduring Dithering."

    World peace may be at stake, but I am still laughing.

    God save the United States.


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  31. FLASH: SYRIAN REBELS ATTACK CHRISTIAN VILLAGE...drudge

    Those are our 'boys'.

    Aren't we proud of our boys, and don't they deserve our support?

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    1. "Syrian Rebels attack Nazi Village"...World According to "What is &quot..."

      Delete
    2. You are a real pest.

      You related to rat?

      Delete
    3. Me?

      I am nobody from no where
      I am a free spirit just blowin' in the wind.

      I am Anonymous.

      Just me and Bobby McGee

      You can call me Eleanor.
      No one else does

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    4. Or you can call me

      The Hegelian Dialectic

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    5. I've been called many names ...

      Habu, Trish, Whit, Allen

      Melody and even Methuselah

      Delete
    6. I am the ghost of posters past.

      Delete
    7. I am the Newman

      Delete
    8. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    9. You are ruining his good name!

      Delete
    10. For once I agree with Ash.

      Delete
    11. Ash is nothing but a potato, without chives or sour cream.
      Better fried than boiled and mashed.

      I'll put a spell on you!

      Because you're mine!

      Anonymous Anoni R Us

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    12. .

      I am the asshole.

      .

      Delete
    13. .


      The last being a quote from the Newman, the Ghost of posters past, the Obama slappy, the hydra-headed dick with many names, all of them being the same.


      .

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    14. Anonymous Anoni R Us!

      :)

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  32. The University of Idaho is going 0-12 in football this season.

    Clemson
    Old Miss
    Temple
    Wash. State
    Arkansas State
    Old Dominion
    Florida State
    on and on

    Whoever put this schedule together was working for the enemy.

    Time to phase out football and go to rodeo.

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    1. Why is it you think that you are always being attacked, the opposing team and the fickle finger of fate are always the enemy?

      If I hasn't said it before, I will now

      There is something wrong with you anoni!

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    2. And also with you, anon.

      Delete
  33. "In another time, Nancy Pelosi would have been put in a straight jacket."

    Michael Savage

    ReplyDelete
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    1. But we are neither in that time or that place.
      We are in the here and now, where Nancy Pelosi is a power player in the federal government of the United States.
      In another time and place Michael Savage would be arrested for treason.
      In another time and place there was no internet, no world wide web.
      No spring time in Paris.

      Why can't you all get along?

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    2. There was something wrong with bob, before he left.
      He had lost his sense of self worth.

      Delete
    3. He was just a draft dodging piece of shit.
      Never served anything but himself, he had no sense of civic duty, our old bobal.

      He'll be joining us in the legion of legendary posters, if he doesn't get lost on the way.

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  34. The regulars here are proud to have provided you with a decade of free entertainment and insight, anon.

    Among us, our slogan has always been:

    'Giving life to those who have no life of their own. Giving hope to those who have real reason to despair. Giving a teaser of victory to life's losers.'

    We are happy to have been of some use to you.

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    1. You are not amongst he regulars, anonymous.
      You have no right or authority to speak for them.
      There is no "we" amongst the anonymous.
      You can not even speak for all anoni.

      You shall be reported to the Ombudsman, he will set an appropriate penalty for your transgressions.

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  35. Richard Genaille, deputy director of the Pentagon's Defense Security Cooperation Agency, said he hoped the Obama administration reached a decision soon on whether to continue $1.23 billion in U.S. military assistance to Egypt, given the large number of weapons shipments in the pipeline.

    "We're kind of antsy about that," Genaille said after a speech at the ComDef industry conference in Washington. "There's a whole bunch of contracts out there. The bills keep coming in and we've got to be able to pay them somehow otherwise we go in default."

    Washington is reviewing the U.S. military aid to Egypt and an additional $241 million in economic aid after the country's military ousted the Muslim Brotherhood-backed government on July 3 and then cracked down on protesters last month.

    Washington has already halted deliveries of four F-16 fighters built by Lockheed Martin Corp, and must decide soon on several other large weapons shipments, according to U.S. government officials. Some smaller items covered by the foreign military assistance have been allowed to proceed.

    Funding for the weapons sales must be finalized or "obligated" by September 30, when the U.S. government's 2013 fiscal year ends, or the funds will revert to the U.S. Treasury, officials say.

    "We're kind of hoping that sometime pretty soon they'll make a decision one way or another - either we terminate or they actually give us some more of the Egyptian (foreign military funding) so we can pay the bills," Genaille said.

    He said the administration was trying to sort through the potential costs associated with terminating contracts, but the amount would be "substantial - in the billions."

    Other U.S. officials have said potential costs of ending the contracts can include penalty payments the U.S. government would be liable to pay to the defense contractors for cancelling them as well as the costs associated with winding down the programs.

    When the Obama administration decided last year to continue military aid to Egypt despite its failure to meet pro-democracy goals, U.S. officials cited as one of their reasons the fact that the termination costs could have exceeded $2 billion.

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    1. ... analysts and former senior officials have said the U.S. government could face $2 billion to $3 billion in bills if it terminates aid to Egypt completely.

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  36. .

    As noted today, there is a certain irony with that picture of Obama on the phone in the Oval Office.

    Mr.Dithers with his foot on that desk constructed from the wood of the British warship Resolute.

    .

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    1. Dither is an intentionally applied form of noise used to randomize error

      The HMS Resolute, a fine old ship, she became trapped in the ice and was abandoned

      The HMS Resolute was no USS Bonhomme Richard, Sir Edward Belcher no John Paul Jones. In fact the story of the HMS Resolute ends ...

      On 10 September 1855, the abandoned Resolute was found adrift by the American whaler George Henry, captained by James Buddington of Groton, Connecticut. ... The United States Congress bought her for $40,000 and then had her refitted and sailed to England under the command of Commander Henry J. Hartstene, where she was presented to Queen Victoria on 13 December 1856 as a token of comity.
      She was dismantled in 1879.

      The desk was made and ...
      presented to U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes in 1880 as a gesture of thanks for the rescue and return of Resolute

      A pricy desk.

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    2. ... and it was a research vessel, not a ship of the line.

      In other words, not a war ship.

      Delete
    3. "Blather is an internationally and immediately recognized form of discourse - often also expressed as blah, blah, blah - used by fools who lack real knowledge and have looked something up on wiki and post it on blogs with the intent to impress others with their faux knowledge.....
      ......Also known as 'rodent speak'."

      Oxford English Dictionary

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    4. Anonymous, you have no idea of what you speak.
      You are a rudderless ship in a sea of desolation, tossed hither and yon by forces beyond your comprehension.

      There is no attempt to impress.
      There is only entertainment.

      Been doing this for years, without a care or worry.
      To bad you are new comer and have yet to find your sea legs.

      Newbies can be that way, often they turn a yellowish shade of green, before puking the guts out.
      When you garner a few years experience at this blog stuff, come back and we will talk.

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    5. But stand firm, not like the Captain of the HMS Resolute, do not abandon hope, do not abandon ship.

      Stay with your Republican stalwarts as they march toward the future, shoulder to shoulder with their Maximous Leader, Barack Hussain Obama.

      Remember Hope is the keyword, for both the Clinton and Obama legacies.
      It springs eternal.

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    6. Be resolute, anoni, be resolute!

      Delete
    7. Remember the words of Kipling, as your consciousness slips further away from that primordial ooze that is the remnant of your functioning brain...

      IF you can keep your head when all about you
      are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
      If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
      But make allowance for their doubting too;
      If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
      Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
      Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
      And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
      ...
      If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
      To serve your turn long after they are gone,
      And so hold on when there is nothing in you
      Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'

      If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
      Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
      If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
      If all men count with you, but none too much;
      If you can fill the unforgiving minute
      With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
      Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
      And - which is more - you'll be a Man!


      But you chose to be an anoni instead, buck up boy!

      Delete
  37. Just ahead of a meeting Wednesday to discuss last month's unprecedented three-hour trading outage, Nasdaq officials got another unexpected jolt: The main data feed for Nasdaq Stock Market-listed stocks went down again.

    ...

    It also came just hours before a previously scheduled meeting addressing last month's breakdown...

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  38. More than a 15% price increase may be in the works!

    The McDonald's Dollar menu may be outgrowing its name — and its $1 price point.

    The fast food giant, struggling to keep sales up in an ultra-competitive environment, says it is testing a seriously different version of the Dollar Menu -- dubbed "Dollar Menu & More" -- that sells an array of items at $1, $2 and even $5 so-called "sharable" items such as 20-piece boxes of McNuggets.

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  39. Furious about a report that the U.S. government spied on her private communications, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff may cancel a planned White House visit and downgrade commercial ties unless she receives a public apology, a senior Brazilian official told Reuters on Wednesday.

    ...

    Rousseff is due to make a formal state visit to Washington next month to meet U.S. President Barack Obama and discuss a possible $4 billion jet-fighter deal, cooperation on oil and biofuels technology, as well as other commercial agreements.

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  40. A stormy debate in the national assembly tonight laid bare deep conflicts in French political opinion on President François Hollande’s plans to join the US in punitive air strikes on Syria.

    The main centre-right opposition party accused Mr Hollande of betraying traditional French policy by “hitching” himself to an American “adventure” without the support of the United Nations.

    Christian Jacob, parliamentary leader of the Union pour un Mouvement Populaire (UMP), said that a “surreal Paris-Washington axis” was running “head down” into war “without allies,” without legal backing and without the support of the French people.However, the UMP is itself split on how to deal with the Syrian crisis.


    There was no vote.

    President Hollande has a constitutional right to commit the French military to actions that last less than four months. The government has hinted, however, that it may put the issue to a parliamentary vote next week if the US Congress supports air-strikes against the Syrian regime when it meets from Monday.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/syria-crisis-deep-conflicts-surface-as-french-debate-military-strike-8798907.html

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  41. The French "Slam Dunk" ...

    We are sure that the rebel force do not have the capacity to launch an attack on this scale.”

    That is the evidence.

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    1. Not bad evidence if you think about it. What it means is the rebs simply weren't capable of doing it. Like a man with only a left arm knocking someone over with a right hook. But you haven't thought about it.

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    2. But there is no evidence that Assad's forces launched the attack, only a supposition that the rebels could not do it.

      Guaranteed that the French did not get a chance to study the rebels order of battle, or the supply chain back into Turkey.

      The French evidence is only their own assumptions, not any evidence of who committed the attack.
      That works in France where the assumption is guilt, and the defendent must prove their innocence, but it is not the Anglo-Saxon or American way.

      There is no proof, only assumptions

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    3. There is no proof, that is their proof.

      Would never carry to a conviction in a US court.

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    4. Assad is in the role of Zimmerman, and now you want to convict?

      Comical

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    5. The Saudi could have supplied the rebels.
      They have the capability.

      The Israeli could have supplied the rebels
      They have the capacity

      The Turks could have supplied the rebels
      They have the capacity

      The French have no possible way to judge the capability of the rebels and their supporters.

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  42. You don't think well.

    The assertion is the rebs don't have the capacity.

    This is simple enough. They don't have the missiles, they don't have the artillery shells, they don't have the storage facilities and they probably don't have the knowledge.

    If the Saudi, the Israeli, the Turk have supplied the rebs that is another matter. Then the USA should be attacking the Saudi, the Israeli, the Turk, and the rebs.

    The French point stands. The rebs don't have the capacity. And no one has so far suggested the Saudi, the Israeli, the Turk have shipped in gas and means to deliver it to the rebs.

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    1. What, you do not read the base threads of the blog, anoni?
      The Saudi have the capabilities and it is reported, right here, that they did the deed.

      Three days ago it was reported that the rebels did have the capacity and the capabilities, provided to them by the Saudis.
      Do you not read, or do you just lack the ability to comprehend?
      Or do you just choose to be ignorant?

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  43. Here yu go, gnat boy, a suggestion that suggested the Saudi, ... have shipped in gas and means to deliver it to the rebs. Right here at the . The Libertarian, posted by our host, Deuce on 31Aug2013.

    http://2164th.blogspot.com/2013/08/however-from-numerous-interviews-with.html

    Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack. “My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta. Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”

    So there has been a suggestion that the Saudi have supplied the weapons and the rebels utilized them, to stage a false flag attack.

    Get off your ass, gnat brain, and read!

    Try a little wiki, expand your boundaries, open your mind

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    1. The rebels did, according to published reports, certainly had the capacity to stage the attack.

      Prove that they did not.
      Can't be done.

      Buzz around some more, gnat boy.

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    2. 'bob' is right. You are a moron.

      You had to bring in the Saudi, the Israeli, the Turk, to make it possible for the rebs to have done this.

      You just want to attack Israel, rat boy.

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    3. Not at all, anoni.
      Israel makes the cut because it as run combat operations against te Assad regime in the past few months. It has proven, by past performance, that it will lie, cheat and steal to accomplish it's policy goals.

      There is no doubt that the Israeli have the capacity.
      There is no proof they did not supply it to the rebels.

      Even Eleanor can see and recognize that simple truth.

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    4. As suggested, here at the .The Libertarian ...

      Peter Oborne, writing in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday, has issued a word of caution about Washington’s rush to punish the Assad regime with so-called ‘limited’ strikes not meant to overthrow the Syrian leader but diminish his capacity to use chemical weapons:

      "Consider this: the only beneficiaries from the atrocity were the rebels, previously losing the war, who now have Britain and America ready to intervene on their side. While there seems to be little doubt that chemical weapons were used, there is doubt about who deployed them.
      "It is important to remember that Assad has been accused of using poison gas against civilians before. But on that occasion, Carla del Ponte, a U.N. commissioner on Syria, concluded that the rebels, not Assad, were probably responsible."

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    5. The Israeli and the Saudi have run illicit weapons smuggling operations, together, in the past.
      In Afghanistan.
      There is no reason to believe they would not act in cooperation on their mutual Syrian issue.

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    6. And that very lack of proof constitutes proof, according to the French.

      If that is all Obama has, then he really is doing masterful work herding the Republicans.
      2014 never look so opportune for the Democrats.

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    7. And for Obama ...

      The IRS/Tea Party and NSA scandals have "gone away", the Benghazi raid, that has been forgotten.

      All we see, now, is Boehner, McCain, Cantor and Ryan holding hands with Obama, moving in lock step, taking US to war under a false flag pretense.

      A convenient escalation of the conflict for Obama, the Israeli and the Saudi.

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    8. The Egyptian were never marching on the Sudan, manufacturing an escalation in the Syrian crisis was so much more, shall we say ...
      opportune.

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  44. Syrians in Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack
    by Dale Gavlak and Yahya Ababneh, August 31, 2013


    The suggestion was right here, gnat brain.
    I cannot fathom just how stupid you are.

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  45. What Would Happen If Every Element On The Periodic Table Came Into Contact Simultaneously?

    There are two ways to go about testing this, neither of which are practical. One requires the energy of dozens of Large Hadron Colliders. The other could yield a cauldron-full of flaming plutonium.

    ...

    The other approach, as explained by John Stanton, the director of the Institute for Theoretical Chemistry at the University of Texas, would be to toss a pulverized chunk of each element or a puff of each gas into a sealed container and see what happens. No one has ever tried this experiment either, but here's how Stanton thinks things would play out:

    "The oxygen gas would react with lithium or sodium and ignite, raising the temperature in the container to the point that all hell would break loose. Powdered graphite carbon would ignite, too.


    Contact Simultaneously?

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    1. I'm working on the perfect nap.

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    2. I nap perfectly

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  46. What was it 'bob' used to call you? Ah yes, General Crapper. General 'Lax' Crapper.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. No, it was not bob.
      He was never that imaginative, he went more for Archie Bunker.

      But, as is typical, when there are no intellectual arguments that can be made that can refute the allegations, the children revert to their natural state. Lord of the Flies, our dueling anonis.

      Been flying false flags all day, haven't you boys?

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    2. Until I embarrassed him when that fine actress, Jean Stapleton died.
      He was demeaning her, trying to insult me.

      Beyond being childish, it was rude and discourteous to the memory of Ms Stapleton.

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    3. Being discourteous to women, now that's was boobie.
      Demeaning to women, a racist and not to bright dirt farmer.

      Opened his subdivision in 2009.

      ;-)

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  47. hear here
    here here
    hear hear
    here hear

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    1. All of the above, that's the spirit, anoni.

      Be decisive!

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    2. Intended as multiple guess test for you, Lax Crapper.

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    3. No need to guess.
      The answer was at wiki, don't you know.

      Oh, I guess you don't

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  48. shhhsh....it's bobs all the way down...

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    1. That was Sarah, bobbing on down.

      First dose of treatment for Jungle Fever calls for an oral application of the inoculant.
      Wonder if she bobbed ALL the way down?

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    I have no doubt John Kerry has "high confidence' in that rather precise 1429 dead number that he has been throwing around for the gas attacked in Syria. Has anyone seen where that number came from? What evidence was presented?

    I notice Doctor Without Borders was estimating 355.

    Of course, if you are looking for a casus belli, it's always better to be able to say that the attack killed thousands (as I saw some hawks saying today) rather than a few piddling hundreds.

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    Obama has reached a certain pinnacle. He equivocates, prevaricates, and tergiversates on every subject but real calling comes with passing the buck. He started out blaming everyone of his failures on GWB, then on the GOP, then on the current Congress, ten on low-level bureaucrats, now on past Congresses, and finally on the entire world. It would be difficult to cover your ass any better than that.

    It's so bad that he removed Truman's The Buck Stops Here sign and replaced it with one that says "Go Deep".

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      People complained about O' cabinet during his first term, but the complaints were mainly on philosophical grounds. This latest bunch conjures up memories of the gang that couldn't shoot straight. It is hard to tell whether Mr. Dithers keeps changing his policies so much they can't keep up with the latest iteration or if they are just flat out clueless.

      Kerry, Dempsey, and Hagel appear to be trying to win the roles of Larry, Moe, and Curly away from McCain, Graham, King.

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