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Sunday, September 08, 2013

What is the real reason the US Government wants to take us into war with Syria?

Footage of chemical attack in Syria is fraud

Published time: September 06, 2013 12:29

There is proof the footage of the alleged chemical attack in Syria was fabricated, Mother Agnes Mariam el-Salib, mother superior of St. James Monastery in Qara, Syria, told RT. She says she is about to submit her findings to the UN.

Mother Agnes, a catholic nun, who has been living in Syria for 20 years and has been reporting actively on what has been going on in the war-ravaged country, says she carefully studied the video featuring allegedly victims of the chemical weapons attack in the Syrian village of Guta in August and now questions its authenticity.

In her interview with RT, Mother Agnes doubts so much footage could have been taken in so little time, and asks where parents of the supposedly dead children are. She promises to send her report to the UN.
The nun is indignant with the world media for apparently turning a blind eye to the Latakia massacre by rebel extremists, which left 500 civilians including women and children dead.

Russia’s Foreign Ministry has called on the international community to pay attention to revelations made by Mother Agnes Mariam el-Salib.

RT: The United States has used internet photos and video footage of the supposed chemical weapons attack in Eastern Guta to build a case against the Syrian government. Have you been able to look at these files? What do you have to say about them?

Mother Agnes: I have carefully studied the footage, and I will present a written analysis on it a bit later. I maintain that the whole affair was a frame-up. It had been staged and prepared in advance with the goal of framing the Syrian government as the perpetrator.
The key evidence is that Reuters made these files public at 6.05 in the morning. The chemical attack is said to have been launched between 3 and 5 o’clock in the morning in Guta. How is it even possible to collect a dozen different pieces of footage, get more than 200 kids and 300 young people together in one place, give them first aid and interview them on camera, and all that in less than three hours? Is that realistic at all? As someone who works in the news industry, you know how long all of it would take.

The bodies of children and teenagers we see in that footage – who were they? What happened to them? Were they killed for real? And how could that happen ahead of the gas attack? Or, if they were not killed, where did they come from? Where are their parents? How come we don’t see any female bodies among all those supposedly dead children?

I am not saying that no chemical agent was used in the area – it certainly was. But I insist that the footage that is now being peddled as evidence had been fabricated in advance. I have studied it meticulously, and I will submit my report to the UN Human Rights Commission based in Geneva.

RT: Recently you’ve visited Latakia and the adjacent areas, you’ve talked to the eyewitnesses to the massacre of civilians carried out in Latakia by Jabhat al-Nusra. What can you tell us about it?
MA: What I want to ask first of all is how the international community can ignore the brutal killing spree in Latakia on Laylat al-Qadr early in the morning of August 5, an attack that affected more than 500 people, including children, women and the elderly. They were all slaughtered. The atrocities committed exceed any scale. But there was close to nothing about it in the international mass media. There was only one small article in “The Independent”, I believe.

We sent our delegation to these villages, and our people had a look at the situation on-site, talked to the locals, and most importantly – talked to the survivors of the massacre.

I don’t understand why the Western media apply double standards in this case – they talk about mass murder that the use of chemical weapons resulted in non-stop, but they keep quiet about the Latakia massacre.

RT: Do you know anything about the fate of hostages captured in Latakia?

A handout picture released by the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) on August 20, 2013 shows soldiers loyal to the regime forces wrapping a decomposed body that was allegedly discovered in a mass grave in northern Latakia, a province on the Mediterranean coast (AFP Photo)

MA: In the village of Estreba they massacred all the residents and burnt down their houses. In the village of al-Khratta almost all the 37 locals were killed. Only ten people were able to escape.

A total of twelve Alawite villages were subjected to this horrendous attack. That was a true slaughterhouse. People were mutilated and beheaded. There is even a video that shows a girl being dismembered alive – alive! – by a frame saw. The final death toll exceeded 400, with 150 to 200 people taken hostage. Later some of the hostages were killed, their deaths filmed. 
At the moment we are looking for the hostages and negotiating their release with the militants, but so far we haven’t managed to achieve that.

RT: We often hear reports of Christians being persecuted by the militants. Just the day before yesterday there was an attack in the village of Maaloula, where the majority of population is Christian. Are Christians in Syria facing grave danger?

MA: Everyone in Syria is facing grave danger. There was a case of Muslim religious leaders being kidnapped and beheaded. They were humiliated and tortured. Ismailis, the druze, Christians – people from all parts of Syrian society – are being mass murdered. I would like to say that if these butchers didn’t have international support, no one would have dared to cross the line. But today, unfortunately, the violation of human rights and genocide in Syria is covered up on the international level. I demand the international community stops assessing the situation in Syria in accordance with the interests of a certain group of great powers. The Syrian people are being killed. They fall victim to contractors, who are provided with weapons and sent to Syria to kill as many people as possible. The truth is, everywhere in Syria people are being kidnapped, tortured, raped and robbed. These crimes remain unpunished, because the key powers chose international terrorism as a way to destroy sovereign states. They’ve done it to other countries. And they will just keep doing it if the international community doesn’t say “Enough!”

RT: You’ve managed to get hold of some sensitive information. Does this make you fear for your life as someone who keeps documents that may compromise the militants? Has anyone threatened you?
MA: You are right. I do get threatened. They are trying to discredit me. I know there is a book coming out soon in France that labels me as a criminal who kills people. But any believer should first and foremost trust their conscience, their belief in God, and that will help them save innocent lives. I don’t care much about my own life. My life is no more precious than that of any Syrian child, whose body could be used as evidence to justify wrongdoing. This is the biggest crime ever perpetrated in history.

RT: What should the Syrians do to stop the tragedy they are going through? 

MA: The Syrians themselves can do nothing to stop it. They can only rely on the international community, friendly nations, world powers, such as Russia, China, and India. With a lot of enthusiasm we did welcome the news that the British parliament voted against the participation of their country in the possible war against Syria. There is a terrorist war going on against Syria right now. The international community and Syria’s friends should join forces and say: Enough! And they need to use every opportunity to do that. Otherwise this threat Syria is facing now will turn into a threat to universal peace.

RT: What should the Vatican and other hubs of Christianity do to put an end to this tragedy?
MA: The Pope says he has no planes, no bombs, and no armed forces. Instead, he has the power of the truth, and the truth he has told. There are messages coming from everywhere in the world urging against a military intervention in Syria. Those who want to hear them will. The Pope, the patriarchs, Nobel Prize winners, including women, keep saying the same in unison: Let’s stop fighting. No conflict can be solved by military means. Stop adding fuel to the flame! 
All the prominent public figures in the world have risen to speak against the war. Everyone has spoken their mind, but the US prefers to turn a deaf ear. The world public opinion has turned against the US. It’s the first time in history that America is alone. They are claiming that they are backed by ten countries. But I insist they aren’t, because the people of these countries disagree with their governments. Even the American people disagree with their government.
RT: Do you believe that this tragedy will end and Syria will remain a homeland for all Syrians, regardless of their ethnical or religious identity?
MA: I’m not Syrian myself, but I’ve been living in Syria for 20 years. I’d like to remind everyone that Damascus is the most ancient capital in the world. I would like to remind everyone that Syria is the cradle of civilization. I would like to remind everyone that this is the holy land that gave birth to the main world religions. What is happening in Syria should serve as a lesson for everyone. I mean that in existential rather than political sense. I am convinced that with God’s help the Syrian people will be able to remain strong, heal their wounds, reconcile and chase out all the foreign mercenaries and terrorists. I believe there will be peace in Syria. But for that we need help from the international community.


  1. Christians, why does everyone call those folks Christians?
    Our own poster, WIO tells us those folks are Nazis, not anyone to worry about and certainly not anyone worthy of spilling US blood and treasure to protect.

    1. How many people died in Sudan or Rwanda, that could have been saved by IAPAC if only their governments weren't allies of Tehran.

    2. Those folks could have been saved if many different people cared.

      Sudan? A big issue for AIPAC but Bush ignored us.

      Rwanda? That again, big issue for AIPAC but Clinton would not listen.

      The rest of the world? They dont give a shit....

  2. You are correct Rat, the people of Syria, for decades, have whole heartedly supported the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews across the globe.

    They have supported the most vicious anti-American, anti-western and anti-Israeli terrorists on the planet.

    They have, during the Iraq war, supplied, supported and provided a haven and logistical support for every jihadist on the planet to get to Iraq to murder American GI's

    They have supported the vicious take over of Lebanon and the killing of thousands of Lebanese.

    They have supported the Assad's in the murder of ten thousand Syrians in Hama.

    Not your garden variety western christians or your george bush "religion of peace" moslem.

    The collective people of Syria? A collection of shits.

    Back in ole WW2, they were an ally of Vichy France and supporters of Hitler.

    Certainly not an important population group for Americans to die supporting.

    Now go back to your pot, bongs and guns, Rat, I am sure the Sheriff will want to talk to you about your crimes against humanity.

    1. How many times has Israel bombed Syria?

    2. Dozens.

      And how many times has Syria bombed Israel?


    3. What were American GI’s doing in Iraq? What were they doing in Lebanon?

    4. Better question,

      How many times has syria bombed Israeli civilians? How many rockets has syria supplied terrorists to bomb civilians?

      tens of thousands.

      How many times has Israel bombed Syrian civilians?


    5. Deuce, answer your own question.

      But SYRIANS attacking or helping attack Americans in other nations is the question.

      Now if you think America is guilty of all crimes?

      That's a different thread.

      Maybe you should ask, Why was America in Europe in the 1940's?

    6. Or were the Nazis just a lie that those who hate America invented?

    7. You do recall that Germany and Japan did declare war on the US?

    8. you do recall the arab world declared war on Israel?

  3. Now Rat will list all the "worthy" folks of Syria...

    Sounds biblical..

    remember the Lot story?

    1. Would a cow lick Lot's wife?

      Lot and his two daughters spent some time in a cave until the danger was clear. His two daughters thought that the entire earth had been destroyed in the same way that Sodom and Gomorrah had been. They thought their old father was the last man remaining on Earth, and it was up to them to continue the human race. So over two consecutive nights, they contrived to get Lot drunk, and lay with him. One became the mother of the Moabites, and the other became the mother of the Ammonites, which were traditional enemies of the people who would be reading this story. A nice little scandal to wrap up the tale. Of course, the Moabites and Ammonites probably had a different story about the founding of their country, but no matter, that's how they roll in that part of the world, to this day, except they use blogs.

    2. Nicely sliced from the entire story and of course missing the point I was saying...

      how typical

  4. How about we re-settle all those "worthy", "decent" Syrians to AZ?

    1. That's their holy land. You wouldn't go along with resettling everyone in Tel Aviv to Boca Raton.

    2. Actually no, it's their "homeland" not their holyland.

      As for the movement of Jews from tel Aviv to Boca?

      The Cubans are now taking over Boca.

      I suggest Miami Jews take over Havana

  5. In 1932, Hitler was given the name Abu Ali in Syria, and Muhammad Haidar in Egypt.[18] Adolf Hitler was celebrated in large parts of the Arab world, and some newspapers even likened him to the Prophet. Erwin Rommel was almost as popular as Hitler. Arabs Shouting of "Heil Rommel" was a common greeting in Arab countries. Many Arabs thought the Germans would free them from the rule of the old colonial powers France and Britain. After France's defeat to Nazi Germany in 1940, some Arabs were chanting against the French and British around the streets of Damascus: "No more Monsieur, no more Mister, Allah's in Heaven and Hitler's on earth."[19] Posters with Arabic sayings: "In heaven God is your ruler, on earth Hitler" were frequently displayed in shops in the towns of Syria.[20]

    1. Numbered footnote indicators in your post, without the accompanying, you know, footnotes, are a dead giveaway you didn't type it yourself but used the old Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V trick. People tend to gloss over them.

    2. "people" what people?

      you mean some illiterate fools that read this blog?

  6. Rafic Baha El Deen Al Hariri (Arabic: رفيق بهاء الدين الحريري‎; 1 November 1944 – 14 February 2005) was a business tycoon and the Prime Minister of Lebanon from 1992 to 1998 and again from 2000 until his resignation, 20 October 2004. He headed five cabinets during his tenure. Hariri dominated the country's post-war political and business life and is widely credited with reconstructing Beirut after the 15-year civil war.
    Hariri was assassinated on 14 February 2005 when explosives equivalent to around 1800 kg of TNT were detonated as his motorcade drove past the St. George Hotel in the Lebanese capital, Beirut. The investigation, by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon, into his assassination is still ongoing and currently led by the independent investigator Daniel Bellemare. In its first two reports, UNIIIC indicated that the Syrian government may be linked to the assassination.[1] Hariri's killing led to massive political change in Lebanon, including the Cedar Revolution and the withdrawal of Syrian troops from Lebanon.

    1. How many Israeli assassins have been used by Israel as a state policy?

    2. And how is this germane?

      Israel kills those that try to kill it or kill it.

      How is this in ANYWAY comparable to what syria did to lebanon?

    3. Because the King David Hotel looks kind of like the World Trade Center, if you squint your eyes.

    4. Poor excuse for a slam Ms T, try again..

      BTW I've been to the King David Hotel. Not even close.

      But why use facts when you just want to be an ass....

  7. In the early 1980s, Hama had emerged as a major source of opposition to the Ba'ath regime during the Sunni Islamist uprising, which had begun in 1976. The city was a focal point for bloody events in the 1981 massacre and the most notable 1982 Hama massacre.[26] The most serious insurrection of the Syrian Islamic uprising happened in Hama during February 1982, when Government forces, led by the president's brother, Rifaat al-Assad, quelled the revolt in Hama with very harsh means.[27] Tanks and artillery shelled the neighbourhoods held by the insurgents indiscriminately, and government forces are alleged to have executed thousands of prisoners and civilian residents after subduing the revolt, which became known as the Hama massacre. The story is suppressed and regarded as highly sensitive in Syria.[28]
    Wikinews has related news: More than 100 reported dead after Syrian troops move against protesters

    1. The story is suppressed and regarded as highly sensitive in Syria

      How convenient. Kind of like Rufus and his Tesla-invented appliances you plug directly into the ground, suppressed and regarded as highly sensitive by Big Oil.

    2. Blow me, slut. I never posted anything about "appliances that you plug directly into the ground."

      Get off my ass, and stay off it.

    3. Drunk Injun must have drank some cheap corn whiskey last night

  8. The Syrian-Iraqi Baath party and its Nazi beginnings

    Ruling party learned from Nazis


    The Baath Arab Socialist Party, to give the organisation its formal title, is the original secular Arab nationalist movement, founded in Damascus in the 1940s to combat Western colonial rule

    Here, in the 1930s, the two founders of the Baath Party were educated at the Sorbonne University. They were middle-class Arabs from the then French colony of Syria.

    Michael Aflaq was a Greek Orthodox Christian and would become the main ideologue of Baathism, preaching freedom from Western colonialism, Arab unity and socialism. And Salah al-Din Bitar, born of a Muslim family in Damascus, would be the practical politician, later becoming prime minister of an independent Syria.

    Early Baathist ideas were strongly fringed with fascism, as you might expect from a group of men whose ideas were formed in France in the turbulent Thirties.

    The movement was based on classless racial unity, hence the strong anti-Marxism, and on national socialism in the scientific sense of the word

    But the rise of German fascism also played a role. Many in the Arab world saw Hitler as an ally. In 1941, the Arab world was electrified by a pro-Axis coup in Baghdad. At that time, Iraq was nominally independent but Britain maintained a strong military presence. An Arab nationalist by the name of Rashid Ali al-Kailani organised an army coup against the pro-British Iraqi monarchy and requested help from Nazi Germany. In Damascus, then a Vichy French colony, the Baath Party founders immediately organised public demonstrations in support of Rashid Ali.


    Not Jefferson-like democrats in the least.

    1. 13% of Israel's land, owned by the Jewish National Fund, is restricted to Jewish ownership and tenancy, and Arabs are prevented from buying or leasing that land.

    2. So?

      try again twit...

      maybe talk about how the arab world, which threw out almost all the jews and stole their lands prevent jews from owning lands in the 899/900th of the middle east they now control.

  9. “The Baath Arab Socialist Party, to give the organisation its formal title, is the original secular Arab nationalist movement, founded in Damascus in the 1940s to combat Western colonial rule…”

    Why would anyone want to overthrow their oppressors? How ungrateful.

    1. Now you are arguing that the supporting of Hitler was a reasonable thing?

      But when Jews tried over throw the Brit's that's unreasonable?

      one standard for Jews, no standards for anyone else eh?

    2. Your arguments are schizophrenic when it comes to colonialism.

    3. define "colonialism"

      are the arabs not colonialists as well?

    4. But when Jews tried over throw the Brit's that's unreasonable?

      one standard for Jews, no standards for anyone else eh?

      Menachem Begin was born in Russia. He and fellow Russians and Poles decided that they had an ancient claim to territory occupied by the British colonialists who took the land from the Arabs. Europeans making ancient claims against lands is part of the turf in Europe and Russia. Tacitus’ Germania was an inspiration for German nationalism. The Germans were big believers that their ancient lands should be purified and lesser religions and races should be subservient to the superior religion and culture of historic German lands.

      They were also jealous and inspired by the colonial acquisitions of England and Americas. Does that have a familiar tone?

    5. Begin was one man. There were PLENTY of Jews born there that needed liberation from the yoke of turks, then brit and arabs.

  10. DeuceSun Sep 08, 08:55:00 AM EDT
    What were American GI’s doing in Iraq? What were they doing in Lebanon?

    Love the way you throw up strawman arguments rather than stay on topic.

  11. Would Syrian troops killing in Mexico be of interest to the people of Texas?

    1. Sure if it was trying to put down a vicious drug war like what is going on right now in Mexico with 100,000 dead in 5 years.

    2. 100,000 dead in five years, that matches the death toll in Israel!

      You remember, that's is where the state of Israel has murdered 100,000 Jewish babies in the last five years. The state of Israel is in a middle of a war with itself, a war with a murder rate that is 15 times greater than that of the Mexican drug wars that WIO is so concerned about.

      Those Israeli, they're just savages!

    3. ah the old abortion shit...

      go back to your bong dope head., Iwonder if Sheriff Joe knows about your drug abuse and weapons violations.

  12. US allies, al Qaeda are assaulting Cristian villages in Syria

    AMMAN, Jordan (AP) — Rebels including al-Qaida-linked fighters gained control of a Christian village northeast of the capital Damascus, Syrian activists said Sunday. Government media provided a dramatically different account of the battle suggesting regime forces were winning.

    It was impossible to independently verify the reports from Maaloula, a scenic mountain community known for being one of the few places in the world where residents still speak the ancient Middle Eastern language of Aramaic. The village is on a UNESCO list of tentative world heritage sites.

    The rebel advance into the area this week was spearheaded by the Jabhat al-Nusra, or Nusra Front, exacerbating fears among Syrians and religious minorities about the role played by Islamic extremists within the rebel ranks.

    It was not immediately clear why the army couldn't sufficiently reinforce its troops to prevent the rebel advance in the area only 43 kilometers (26 miles) from Damascus. Some activists say that Assad’s forces are stretched thin, fighting in other areas in the north and south of the country…


    Kerry and Obama, by threatening an air assault on Syria have emboldened al Qaeda and have frightened Syria from exposing army units to protect the Christians.

  13. WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House asserted Sunday that a "common-sense test" rather than "irrefutable, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence" makes the Syrian government responsible for a chemical weapons attack that President Barack Obama says demands a U.S. military response.

    As part of a major push to win the backing of a divided Congress and skeptical American public, Obama's top aide made the rounds of the Sunday talk shows to press the case for "targeted, limited consequential action to deter and degrade" the capabilities of Syrian President Bashar Assad "to carry out these terrible attacks again."

    At the same time, chief of staff Denis McDonough acknowledged the risks that military action could drag the U.S. into the middle of a brutal civil war and endanger allies such as Israel with a retaliatory attack.

    1. .

      What would this administration know about common sense? It can't even articulate the 'national security' interest it says we have there. They can't point to any type of end game or strategy except to bloody Assad's nose. Their spokesmen offer us conflicting rationales. Dempsey can't even articulate what the strategy is and he heads the Joint Chiefs. I've never seen anything so bizarre.


  14. A Maaloula resident said the rebels, many of them sporting beards and shouting Allahu Akbar, or God is great, attacked Christian homes and churches shortly after moving into the village overnight.

    "They shot and killed people. I heard gunshots and then I saw three bodies lying in the middle of a street in the old quarters of the village," said the resident, reached by telephone from neighboring Jordan. "So many people fled the village for safety."

    Now, Maaloula "is a ghost town. Where is President Obama to see what befallen on us?" asked the man, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal by the rebels.

    Syria's state SANA news agency said the army reported "progress" in its offensive against the rebels in Maaloula. "The army inflicted heavy losses in the ranks of the terrorists," it said, using a government term to describe the rebels.

    "Military operations are continuing in the vicinity of Maaloula and its entrances," SANA said.

    State-run TV reported that all churches in Maaloula were now safe and the army was chasing gunmen in the western hills.

    The development came as President Barack Obama's administration pressed ahead with efforts to win congressional backing and international support for military strikes against Syria over an alleged chemical attack in August outside Damascus.

    The U.S. says Assad's forces fired rockets loaded with the nerve agent sarin on rebel-held areas near the capital before dawn on Aug. 21, killing at least 1,429 people. Other estimates put the death toll from the attack at more than 500.

    Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2013/09/08/2988381/syria-al-qaida-rebels-control.html#storylink=cpy

    1. " shouting Allahu Akbar" that's the same think palestinians scream as they set off their suicide vests, stab jew-woman or blindly launch a rocket at israeli village or town

    2. John "Shit-On-a-Shingle" Kerry says it's harmless, like saying "God bless you" when someone sneezes.

    3. John McCain compares it to folks saying Thank God!, Thank God! here in the United States.

      The Standard Bearer of the Republican Party comparing Syrian al-Qeada to Bible Belt Baptists.
      There stands the Republican Party.
      McCain, Boehner and the rest of the stalwart Republicans in DC.

  15. DeuceSun Sep 08, 09:10:00 AM EDT
    Would Syrian troops killing in Mexico be of interest to the people of Texas?

    Thus we have hit the ABSURD

    and I know I am doing well to put some money in the bank account of my niece in Germany.

    We two people are deep deep deep into planning a wonderful road trip, and the hell with Syria, when she gets back.

    Anyone need a first class brain scan?

    rat? Ash?.....even....Deuce?

    1. Sure Bob, don’t forget your fluffy slippers.

    2. Let them kill one another to a stand off and a division of the country

      Best idea going....

      It does not involve my niece and I.

      Neither of us gives a shit about it.

      She's got more important things to do with her young life than hate.....

    3. .

      You are starting to creep me out old man.


    4. Seek Psychiatric help, please.

  16. Some slaughter is Ok

    Syria crisis: Kerry says west must not be ‘silent spectators to the slaughter'

    Secretary of state visits Paris and says Obama is yet to decide whether US will delay possible air strike until after UN report

    1. We dont have to be "silent"

      We could: Cheer, Boo or hiss..

      We could hold "prayer" vigils, that's more than the world did for the Jews in the camps.

    2. And Yahweh didn't listen, apparently.

    3. There were other, more pressing, items on the agenda at that particular moment in the space and time continuum, Ms T.

    4. TeresitaSun Sep 08, 10:30:00 AM EDT
      And Yahweh didn't listen, apparently.

      Maybe he did, that's why Israel now IS again. And the fact that it will not put up with haters crap anymore...

      We listened, that's why we are home in Jerusalem.

  17. Down through the middle of Idaho, that only I know so well, then through Northern Nevada, that only I know so well, finally to Vegas, that my OGF knows so well, O O O I can't wait...

    1. Whitebird pass, Riggins, nice.

    2. Yup, you got it, Miss T.

  18. OK, Computer Nerd Girl:

    How come back in the day watching flash videos, you could mouse back to rewind where you wanted, and watch again, but now, most of the time you can't?

    (If you're an Adobe Employee, don't bother.)

    The idea is, get the kids in, show them a commercial, show them their video, and get them on to the next one. If you can rewind in the middle of the video and watch it again, or show your friends and family, Google ain't making an ad sale. That's also why they keep breaking third party apps to download videos by changing the API and pushing it out as a "Flash Upgrade".

  19. The US Security Partner in Egypt presses onward!

    CAIRO (AFP) - Egyptian military helicopters carried out a second day of air raids on Sunday in the Sinai Peninsula, where they are facing an insurgency by Islamist militants, ...

    The Muslim Brotherhood militia is being decimated by the US supplied and trained Egyptian military, the forces described by JFKerry as the US Security Partner in the region

    Saddam Hussein was a US proxy in his war with Iran, the Egyptian military, they're "Partners" with the US.

    "Partner" being indicative of more substantial relationship than that of a mere proxy.

    1. Our partners in Egypt are attacking the armed resistance that is being put forward by the MB and their related offshoots.

      In Syria, well, there is certainly a lot of noise.
      Most of of it intentional.
      Randomizing quantization error.
      Preventing large-scale patterns from being seen.

      The Dither Program.

      See beyond the dither and the large scale patterns are both visible and viable.

      Being applied in Egypt, as we type.

    2. The US-Israeli-Saudi Arabian Axis is still moving forward to solidify Saudi Arabia and its' protectorates in the Persian Gulf area as the preferred and only reliable source of oil to the developing economies of the third world.

  20. Ties between Israel and Egypt only getting stronger, despite regional tension

    The two nations enjoy not only tactical cooperation, but a convergence of strategic interests as well.

    By Amos Harel

    One of the outcomes of the military coup in Egypt is the stronger bond between Cairo and Jerusalem. Although the two nations want to keep their warmer relationship under wraps, it is hard to ignore the fact that they enjoy not only tactical cooperation the ground, but also a convergence of strategic interests.


    1. In Cairo, Saudi ambassador Ahmed Qattan told the news agency Reuters that his country, along with Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, was studying a "comprehensive" report on investment needs finalized by Egypt's cabinet on Wednesday.

      In mid-July the Gulf trio promised Egypt a total of $12 billion (9 billion euros) in loans, fuel and grants after Egypt's army removed Islamist President Mohamed Morsi. Of that, $5 billion has already been delivered.

      The deputy premier in Egypt's interim government, Ziad Bahaa el-Din, said on Wednesday that Gulf investments would be aimed at labor-intensive projects and services that helped Egypt's poor, including railways, low-income housing and plants for potable water and sewage treatment.


  21. DeuceSun Sep 08, 09:32:00 AM EDT
    Sure Bob, don’t forget your fluffy slippers

    Deuce, she seems impressed with my cowboy boots.

    She just said "Please tuck the pants in, Uncle Bob, it looks better that way."

    And gave me a little punch in the ribs.


    Deuce, if you'd had the pleasure of meeting this young Princess, you'd be a goner too.

    And would not give a fuck about your 'blessed arabs'

    who have, by the way, killed millions of these good Hindus..

    IF you are capable of recalling HISTORY

  22. This story is a hoot!
    Now the Washington Times has run with it.
    Bloomberg not only wants to tell folks how big their soda cups can be, he now berates politicians for "using" photos of their families for political gain. Decrying as "racist" when a NYCity Democrat publishes photos of his black wife and their children.

    New York Magazine’s Chris Smith suggested that Mr. de Blasio “has in some ways been running a class-warfare campaign.”

    “Class-warfare and racist,” Mr. Bloomberg interrupted.

    “Racist?” Mr. Smith asked.

    “I mean he’s making an appeal using his family to gain support,” Mr. Bloomberg clarified. “I think it’s pretty obvious to anyone watching what he’s been doing. I do not think he himself is racist. It’s comparable to me pointing out I’m Jewish in attracting the Jewish vote. You tailor messages to your audiences and address issues you think your audience cares about.”

    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/8/bloomberg-blasts-frontrunner-de-blasio-racist-phot/#ixzz2eJutxnL5
    Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

    1. “Class-warfare and racist,” Mr. Bloomberg interrupted.

      “Racist?” Mr. Smith asked.
      It’s comparable to me pointing out I’m Jewish in attracting the Jewish vote.

      Which would indicate that Mr Bloomberg considers himself to be a Class-warfare fighting racist.

      Targeted marketing is all it takes, today, to be a racist.
      ... You tailor messages to your audiences and address issues you think your audience cares about.”

      Everybody does that.
      Even that “Class-warfare soldier and racist”, Mayor Bloomberg.

  23. Chemical attacks in Syria. Where’s the proof Assad was responsible?

    So far, no convincing evidence has been made public proving that Bashar al-Assad used chemical weapons to kill hundreds of Syrian people. That has left the door open to alternate scenarios and conspiracy theories.

    By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / September 8, 2013

    As the Obama administration fights for political and diplomatic support for attacking the regime of Bashar al-Assad over chemical weapons in Syria, one critical issue remains unclear.

    Who, exactly, used these weapons of mass destruction to kill hundreds of Syrians?

    So far, no slam dunk, smoking gun evidence – the kind that proved to be so elusive in Iraq ten years ago – has been produced. That has left the door open to alternate scenarios and conspiracy theories about who was responsible – the Assad regime or rebel groups backed by outside forces.

    In his initial statement ten days ago about the use of chemical weapons in Syria, Secretary of State was adamant about who was to blame for an attack in the suburbs of Damascus that he said killed 1,429 people, including 426 children.

    “We know where the rockets were launched from, and at what time,” Sec. Kerry said, citing but not detailing intelligence reports. “We know where they landed, and when. We know rockets came only from regime-controlled areas, and went only to opposition-controlled or contested neighborhoods.”

    “We know that a senior regime official who knew about the attack confirmed that chemical weapons were used by the regime,” Kerry added.

    In blasting what she called a "blatant violation of international law, a war crime and a crime against humanity,” European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton also pointed a finger at Assad for the Aug. 21 chemical attack.

    "[The Syrian government] is the only one that possesses chemical weapons agents and the means of their delivery in a sufficient quantity," she said Saturday.

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    Some members of Congress have received classified intelligence briefings, presumably including evidence the Obama administration knows it needs to provide if it’s to win congressional authorization for the use of US military force in Syria.

    But publicly, at least, the White House has yet to make its case in any detail, and its latest comments haven’t clarified things.

    On Sunday, White House chief of staff Denis McDonough said a “common-sense test”

    rather than “irrefutable, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence" makes the Syrian government responsible.
    (COMMENT) That’s it, common sense?

  24. Common sense would dictate that why would Assad do such a thing when the UN was two miles away.

    Common sense would dictate that the rebels have more to gain and Assad has nothing to gain.

    Common sense would look at the fact that al Qaeda has been trying to use sarin for at least two year,

    Common sense would dictate that the photos and films of all those dead children was missing the emotional picture of their parent, aunts, uncles, grand parents and neighbors.

    Common sense would dictate the analysis of the dates and timing of the videos, and lastly, common sense would look at the lies that came out of Benghazi. Remember the lying legion on every possible media outlet swearing to all that is most unholy that the web video made them do it.

    COMMON FUCKING SENSE? but I digress…

    1. .

      Common sense would dictate that were chemical weapons used by Assad he would use them on the rebel military not on civilians.

      But it does make a good propaganda tool for the rebels.


    2. .

      It's been pointed out that their are no women in these videos. This being because there was not 'separate' facilities for the women. This is the kind of society we are going to be intervening in. That women are left to die because they can't be in the same room as the men.


    3. Common sense is to question the behavior of Assad in the 1st place.

      Common sense and arabs are an oxymoronic thought.

  25. {…}

    "We've seen the video proof of the outcome of those attacks,” Mr. McDonough said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    “All of that leads to a quite strong common-sense test irrespective of the intelligence that suggests that the regime carried this out,” he said. “Now do we have a picture or do we have irrefutable beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence? This is not a court of law and intelligence does not work that way. So what we do know and what we know the common-sense test says is [Assad] is responsible for this. He should be held to account."

    Part of the problem for Obama is that showing US evidence in greater detail could reveal sources and methods of intelligence gathering – a problem all administrations have faced over the years, whether it has to do with signals gathering and code breaking, satellite photos, or spies on the ground.


    1. Ah yes, the old chuckle, "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you."

  26. {…}

    there is open-source evidence that provides clues about the attack, including videos of the rockets that analysts believe were likely used. US officials on Saturday released a compilation of videos showing victims, including children, exhibiting what appear to be symptoms of nerve gas poisoning.

    Some experts think the size of the strike, and the amount of toxic chemicals that appear to have been delivered, make it doubtful that the rebels could have carried it out, the Associated Press reports. What's missing from the public record is direct proof, rather than circumstantial evidence, tying this to the regime.

    The Obama administration says its assessment is based mainly on satellite and signal intelligence, including indications in the three days prior to the attack that the regime was preparing to use poisonous gas, but multiple requests to view that satellite imagery have been denied, according to the AP.

    The Obama administration maintains it intercepted communications from a senior Syrian official on the use of chemical weapons, but requests to see that transcript have been denied. So has a request by the AP to see a transcript of communications allegedly ordering Syrian military personnel to prepare for a chemical weapons attack by readying gas masks.

    That’s given skeptics and conspiracy advocates an opening.

    “We are unaware of any reliable evidence that a Syrian military rocket capable of carrying a chemical agent was fired into the area,” writes former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, a political activist and frequent critic of US policies. “In fact, we are aware of no reliable physical evidence to support the claim that this was a result of a strike by a Syrian military unit with expertise in chemical weapons.”


  27. {…}

    “There is a growing body of evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East – mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its supporters – providing a strong circumstantial case that the August 21 chemical incident was a pre-planned provocation by the Syrian opposition and its Saudi and Turkish supporters,” Mr. McGovern writes on documentary filmmaker Michael Moore’s web site. “The aim is reported to have been to create the kind of incident that would bring the United States into the war.”

    That’s essentially the claim made by journalists Dale Gavlak (who has reported for the AP, the BBC, and NPR) and Yahya Ababneh on MintPressNews.com headlined “EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical Attack.”

    But such reports, based at least partially on hearsay, seem without solid evidence, and they follow essentially the same line promoted by the Assad regime and its principal patron Russia.

    UN investigators are expected to make their findings public in about two weeks. At this point, it’s unclear whether that will support the Obama’s assertions as the administration proceeds with plans to attack Syria.

  28. Don’t confuse them with facts or logical argument

    The speaker of Russia's national legislature said Friday that a plan to send a parliamentary delegation to Washington to try and convince U.S. lawmakers that a unilateral military intervention in Syria would be unwarranted and counterproductive had been cancelled.

    Sergei Naryshkin, speaker of the State Duma, said the delegation would no longer travel to the U.S. and called the decisions by House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to refuse to meet their Russian counterparts deplorable.

    Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson confirmed Thursday that Reid had turned down the offer. Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said the speaker had also declined the offer.

    "We are really disappointed by their decision not to meet with their Russian colleagues," said Russian Embassy spokesman Maxim Abramov on Thursday after the U.S. congressmen made their decisions public.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed the delegation on Monday.

  29. AMMAN, Jordan – Rebels including Al Qaeda-linked fighters gained control of a Christian village northeast of the capital Damascus, Syrian activists said Sunday. Government media provided a dramatically different account of the battle suggesting regime forces were winning.
    It was impossible to independently verify the reports from Maaloula, a scenic mountain community known for being one of the few places in the world where residents still speak the ancient Middle Eastern language of Aramaic. The village is on a UNESCO list of tentative world heritage sites.
    The rebel advance into the area this week was spearheaded by Jabhat al-Nusra, or the Nusra Front, exacerbating fears among Syrians and religious minorities about the role played by Islamic extremists within the rebel ranks.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/08/syrian-activists-say-al-qaida-linked-rebels-gain-control-christian-village/#ixzz2eK0ssX1y

  30. No urgency there. Let’s wait for the snuff videos. Where is John McCain. Let’s check in:

  31. John McCain On Marijuana: 'Maybe We Should Legalize'
    The Huffington Post | By Paige Lavender
    Posted: 09/06/2013 9:44 am EDT | Updated: 09/06/2013 1:52 pm EDT

  32. McCain needs a joint to clear his mind, my friends…aaaaah aaah…with all due respect.

  33. “How can it be that America is going to fight us, on the side of Al-Qaeda?” a young Syrian army commander wondered. “How can America be against a secular country and for Islamists, who kill their prisoners and dump their bodies in a well?"

    1. The Syrian army are a murderous, vicious group of nazis.

      Why would we support them either????

  34. Replies
    1. Obama's pissed off that his Muslim Brotherhood pals got taken out of power in Egypt and needs to get some points on the board. And WiO's pals in AIPAC are selling it for him.

    2. LOL Like AIPAC has any power anymore...

      We couldnt stop Obama from being elected.

      We couldnt stop the PA from going to the UN

      We couldnt stop awacs to arabia

      We couldnt stop the embracing of the MB at the whitehouse.

      We couldnt stop hagel, kerry, powers from being promoted

      We couldnt stop Huma from being embraced by Clinton

      We couldnt stop obama's war on coal and energy independence

      We could stop Obama from calling assad a reformer.

      So much we havent been able to do and yet the frightened scared mouses of the world think that the Jews, israel and AIPAC control it all..

      WEAK MINDS....

    3. .

      Obviously, Photo-shopped.

      Or taken before she started running with Hillary. I seen recent photos of her.


  35. Obama wants to use the rebels as fodder for the larger struggle against Iran and the Shiites maybe?
    Or maybe it is all about keeping the oil flowing.

    1. Funny how oil keeps flowing to China and Japan and Europe without them sending carriers and shit. They do it the old fashioned way, with contracts.

  36. WiO: Actually no, it's their "homeland" not their holyland.

    The difference between homeland and holy land, of course, is that a homeland has been continuously occupied for the last two thousand years, while a holy land could be colonized after World War II by Zionist Nationalist Marxists.

    1. I really mean it you squatting occupier of indigenous American indians lands...

      Fuck you..

    2. Prior to WWII Jews had purchased 500,000 hectares of land in "Palestine". Cash was tendered and deeds given.

  37. DeuceSun Sep 08, 01:13:00 PM EDT
    Can anyone explain?

    Yes. my niece can.

    She says they are all savages and let's talk about something else, Uncle Gob

    So, we do.

  38. Uncle Bob

    There is a whole lot of other nifty stuff to talk about, and she is teaching me.

  39. Her culture knows all about the muzzies.

    She is wanting to 'take a break'

    and we are planning to do just that.

    Whoooopie, Vegas here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. Bob, your family is going to take away your checkbook, and lock you up in the looney bin if you don't get help.

    1. I've got a white female lawyer on my side, Ruffie, she is not push over.

      She knows who signs the checks.

  41. The Injins around here are better off cause of the whites.

    Now they got medical care, and pick up trucks.

    And food stamps and all sorts of shit.

    1. No more dying of starvation for these Injins.

      They all got the white mans shots too.

      They is up and running.

    2. And of course bitching bout how they can no longer take scalps.

      Damn the white mans law.

    3. All their tribal attorneys are whites, would not you know??

  42. Literacy is the beginning of civilization.


  43. Two key Republican lawmakers made it clear Sunday that if the White House wants their support on a strike against Syria, President Obama will have to restore funding to the U.S. military that was cut under sequestration.

    Rep. Howard P. “Buck” McKeon, appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union,” said the president can’t expect the U.S. military to continue to do “more with less.”

    Mr. McKeon, a California Republican who is chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said that undoing the sequestration cuts would improve the chances for congressional approval of Mr. Obama’s request for authorization for a military strike on Syria.

    “I cannot guarantee that we can get votes for it, but I know that a lot of people have the same concerns that I do. And if we can fix this, it may help some people with their votes.”

    Rep. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee, appearing on the same program, echoed her Republican colleague, telling host Candy Crowley that it is “immoral” to ask the U.S. military to take on a new mission while facing budget cuts.


    Two Republicans negotiating whether the US goes to war using sequester cuts as bargaining chips?

    Is there no bottom to this bucket of shit in Washington? Syrians and American lives, our honor, the basics of ordinary people affected by the price of a tank of gas, all because of the flotsam of the American political process? Seriously deranged sociopaths like Obama, McCain, Kerry and these two creeps, Buck and Marsha rule and ruin.

    1. They are both white and can read.

      You should be supporting them.

      Ever more Syrians will die.

  44. Hark, the new apogee of American politics, the fruit of our diplomatic prowess, God Bless America:

    Kerry says Saudi Arabia has agreed to support military strike against Syria.


  45. Well, Deuce, you're on your own, buddy. I'm flummoxed. I can't make heads or tails out of it.

  46. It's easy, Ruf.

    Just think tribal.

    Thing sunni, man, dude, brother.


  48. Muslim Brotherhood soul brother ratchets up

    In a move to intensify its defense near the Syrian border, Turkey has deployed additional troops and more weapons to the country’s southeast. Earlier this week, Turkey sent reinforcement to the south amid Washington’s calls for a military strike on Syria.

    The Turkish military dispatched additional units to Suruc, located in the southern province of Sanlıurfa, on Sunday, Today's Zaman reported. According to the report, semi-trailer trucks loaded with armored vehicles and tanks were sent midday from a command post in the southeastern city of Gaziantep.

    Local newspaper Hurriyet also reported on Sunday that Turkish fighter jets conducted a patrol flight over the Syrian border due to “increased activity” in the area.

    Automated firing units using Stinger missiles for very short range air defenses have been set up on top of a high hill on the Syrian border town of Yayladagi in Hatay province, Reuters reported, citing a witness who said that the defense system's radar was active.

    Over the past week, Turkey also moved convoys of military vehicles carrying equipment and personnel between its bases near the southeastern border.

    Reinforcement units were sent on Wednesday from a military command in the southern province of Gaziantep to Kilis province, located on the Syrian border. On Thursday, additional convoys of military units, weapons, and vehicles were also dispatched to the southern province of Hatay.

    Turkish armed forces have also begun to establish a new base on the top of Kel Mountain, adjacent to the Syrian coastal city of Latakia, according to Hurriyet.

    Military equipment, which was carried by trucks for two days from the Yayladağı district to the southern Hatay province, is being assembled on top of the mountain.

    It remains unclear what prompted the decision to send reinforcements to the border, as neither the Turkish military nor the Ministry of Defense were available to provide comment to Reuters.

    Local media speculated that the move could be related to a Tuesday accident which occurred when a package of live ammunition exploded while being smuggled into Turkey. Six people were killed at the border.

    It has been also suggested by the media that the additional troops will be the first to respond to a possible strike by Syria.

    But in his recent statement, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan reiterated that Turkey - which has been openly supporting the rebel opposition - was ready to take part in any international coalition against Syria.

    "Whether it would be as an opposing force or supplying forces to provide logistical support, all this would be determined by circumstances," Erdogan said on Sunday.

    Turkey has been bolstering security along the 900km (560 mile) border with Syria over the past year.

    Meanwhile, US Congress is set to debate whether to give a green light for military intervention after President Barack Obama proposed limited strikes in response to what Washington insists was the use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime against Syrian civilians.

  49. By David S. Cloud
    September 7, 2013, 6:23 p.m.
    WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is preparing for a longer bombardment of Syria than it originally had planned, with a heavy barrage of missile strikes followed soon after by more attacks on targets that the opening salvos missed or failed to destroy, officials said.

    The planning for intense attacks over a three-day period reflects the growing belief in the White House and the Pentagon that the United States needs more firepower to inflict even minimal damage on Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces, which have been widely dispersed over the last two weeks, the officials said.

    Two U.S. officers said the White House asked for an expanded target list in recent days to include many more than the 50 or so targets on the initial list. As a result, Pentagon planners are weighing whether to use Air Force bombers, in addition to five warships now on patrol in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, to launch cruise missiles and air-to-surface missiles from hundreds of miles offshore, well out of range of Syrian air defenses.

  50. T said: "Because the King David Hotel looks kind of like the World Trade Center, if you squint your eyes"

    Hardly, dear girl.

    The bombing was carefully planned to avoid "collateral" damage. That the Brits ignored the warnings is another issue. Those who attacked the World Trade Center gave no warning beforehand.

  51. Teresita said: And Yahweh didn't listen, apparently.

    In a century from now you would have to rethink what "Yahweh" (whomever, whatever that may be) "hears". Demography is destiny. The historically anti-Semitic Europe will cease to exist.

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