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Friday, July 05, 2013

George Galloway’s take on Obama’s and John Kerry’s guy, Morsi getting kicked out of office

Kerry’s Secret Gift to Egypt
Jun 6, 2013 4:21 PM EDT

Last month John Kerry quietly approved huge arms shipments to Egypt—despite Cairo’s ongoing violation of human rights. Josh Rogin reports.
While employees of American NGOs sat in Egyptian prisons, Secretary of State John Kerry quietly waived the law that would prevent the U.S. from sending the Egyptian military $1.3 billion worth of weapons this year.
Congress erupted in anger June 4, when Egyptian courts sentenced 43 NGO workers, including 16 Americans, to jail terms of up to five years for working in NGOs not registered with the government. Only one of those Americans, the National Democratic Institute’s Robert Becker, actually stayed in Egypt to await the verdict. He was given two years in prison. The other American organizations targeted included the International Republican Institute and Freedom House. All of those organizations had been operating in the open in Egypt for several years before the government raided their offices and forced them to flee the country in December 2011.
But what most in Congress didn’t know was that on May 10, Kerry had waived the restrictions lawmakers had put in place to make sure that U.S. military aid to Egypt wouldn’t continue unless Egypt made progress on its path to democracy, rule of law, and human rights. The State Department’s notification of Kerry’s move, which was never released to the public, was obtained by The Daily Beast.
The law that allows the State Department to give Egypt $1.3 billion each year in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) specifies that to get the money, the secretary of State must certify that Egypt is honoring its peace treaty with Israel as well as “supporting the transition to civilian government including holding free and fair elections; implementing policies to protect freedom of expression, association, and religion, and due process of law.”
“Foreign funding of NGOs in Egypt is something that drives the Egyptian military command crazy.”
Several members of Congress said this week that Egypt’s sentencing of American NGO workers, who were there to help Egypt build up its civil society and to promote democracy, flew in the face of that very law, meaning that Egypt should not get the money.
“The unjust convictions of Egyptian and American citizens by the Egyptian government, for nothing more than working to defend the fundamental rights of all Egyptians, is appalling and offensive to people of goodwill in Egypt and across the globe,” said Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), who chairs the Senate Appropriations Committee’s state and foreign-ops subcommittee. “If Egypt continues on this repressive path, it will be increasingly difficult for the United States to support President Morsi’s government.”
“These politically motivated prosecutions of individuals doing nothing more than attempting to assist Egypt as it moves down the path toward democracy will only serve to undermine the progress that Egypt has made since 2011,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) said in a statement. “The court’s order that several of the organizations ... cease operations in Egypt also raises concerns about how the United States and other countries can continue to assist Egypt as it transitions from military rule, given that these are some of the premier international organizations that focus on democratic training, the building of civil society, and establishment of the rule of law.”
Reps. Frank Wolf (R-VA) and Gerry Connolly (D-VA) are circulating a letter in the House this week to Morsi threatening a cutoff of U.S. aid and asking him to step in and reverse the policy of prosecuting foreign NGO workers.
“In order for the U.S. government and the American people to have any confidence that the Egyptian government is undertaking a genuine transition to a democratic state, under civilian control, where the freedoms of assembly, association, religion and expression are guaranteed and rule of law is upheld, we must see a swift and satisfactory resolution to this case that takes into full account the concerns expressed in this letter, including revisions to the proposed NGO law,” reads the letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Daily Beast.
The lawmakers said that there was no way the Obama administration would be able to certify that Egypt was progressing toward democracy, given the jail sentences. They didn’t know that Kerry had already waived the law only weeks prior. Experts following the issue were shocked that Kerry’s team kept the decision a secret, unlike last year, when then–secretary of State Hillary Clinton also waived the law, but made sure to explain her actions and include a strong statement condemning the Egyptian government’s treatment of foreign NGOs.
This year Kerry didn’t say anything publicly and didn’t even tell many of the congressional offices that care about the issue, said Stephen McInerney, executive director of the Project on Middle East Democracy.
“It’s very alarming that no public statement was made by the secretary or the Department of State more broadly in conjunction with the waiving of these conditions,” he said. “The waiving of these conditions isn’t something that should be done lightly or quietly.”
In response to questions from The Daily Beast, State Department Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs spokesman Edgar Vasquez said Kerry waived the law based on “national-security interests,” because military assistance to Egypt includes programs that help stop trafficking of illegal goods, counterterrorism, and security in the region.
“To be sure, while Egypt has made some progress in its democratic transition, we recognize that much more work remains,” he said. “Concerns remain about government actions or support for laws that would restrict freedom of association, expression, and religion—universal rights which Egypt has international obligations to uphold—and its willingness to promote inclusive processes that respond to the aspirations of all Egyptians.”
Vasquez also pointed to State Department statements expressing “deep concern” over the guilty verdicts and sentences handed down by the Egyptian courts this week. “We called it for what it was: a politically motivated trial and a decision that runs contrary to the universal principle of freedom of association and is incompatible with the transition to democracy,” he said.
Steven Cook, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said the Obama administration is prioritizing its relationship with the Egyptian military right now over the drive to promote democracy and human rights there.
“The NGO stuff is horrific, but we need to work with the Egyptian armed forces,” he said. “The administration’s clearly made the judgment that now is not the time to start messing with the FMF, that you need to reassure the Egyptian military, which shares basic interests with the U.S.”
But the Egyptian military was involved in the crackdown on the NGOs, and the issues are linked, Cook said. The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces was in power when the raids happened, and the leader at the time, Field Marshal Mohamed Tantawi, was known to be close to Egyptian Minister of International Cooperation Fayza Abul Naga, a holdover from the Mubarak era who played a lead role in the raids and the prosecutions.
“Foreign funding of NGOs in Egypt is something that drives the Egyptian military command crazy,” said Cook. “They believe it’s a national-security threat to Egypt and that’s how they are complicit in this. They want to shut this all down.”


  1. Notes to our rulers and masters:

    How about trying to mind your own business?

    Everything you touch in the Middle East turns to shit.

    You have no clue about what you are doing.

    Tell John Kerry to please stay ON THE BOAT. We really do not mind.

  2. From the Washington Post on Kerry’s magic in the Middle East

    On the same day that Egypt’s military ousted the country’s first democratically elected leader, a CBS News producer snapped a picture of a yacht and reported that Kerry was aboard. The State Department called that report “completely inaccurate” but did not elaborate on the secretary’s whereabouts, saying only that he was working all day and phoned in to a Situation Room meeting on Egypt that afternoon.

    After the yacht photo was published, the Boston Herald began tracking Kerry’s whereabouts on the Massachusetts island. On Thursday, the paper photographed the former senator walking down Federal Street, following this with pictures of him getting into a kayak that same day.

    “While he was briefly on his boat on Wednesday,” State Department spokeswoman Jennifer Psaki said Friday, “Secretary Kerry worked around the clock all day, including participating in the president’s meeting with his National Security Council and calls with Norwegian Foreign Minister Eade, Qatari Foreign Minister al-Attiyah, Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglu, Egyptian Constitution Party President ElBaradei and five calls to Ambassador Patterson on that day alone.”

    An aide said Kerry was not on the boat during the Situation Room meeting or while working with Anne Patterson, the U.S. envoy to Cairo, or with foreign leaders.

    Kerry had just returned from a two-week, 22,500-mile trip to Asia and the Middle East, his fifth to the region since taking his post in February. His main focus was on restarting Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations, as well as those in Syria.

    On Thursday, Independence Day, Kerry held phone conversations with more foreign officials, including Egyptian Foreign Minister Mohamed Kamel Amr, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu.

  3. The conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will cost us at least $5 Billion.

    Please, keep him on the boat.

    Can we take away Kerry’s cell phone?

    Let’s build a 5000 boat marina, say down near Alexandria, VA. and give them all a boat.

  4. Update on the Puppet threat in Israel and courageous decision made by Israeli Internal Security Minister, Yitzhak Aharonovitch, to remove the threat to Israeli State Security. Yitzhak the Vigilant, was not on his boat.

    “I am not a security threat”. That’s the message from puppets – with a little help from their owners - from across Israel and the world. The goal: to denounce the Israeli government’s abrupt cancellation of a children’s theatre festival in East Jerusalem.

    Though the festival was cancelled over a week ago, protests against this decision are still going strong, especially since puppeteers from Israel’s version of Sesame Street launched an online campaign to unite puppeteers of the world behind their cause. They’ve so far gathered about 4,000 signatures on their petitions (in Hebrew and in English), and received hundreds of photos of puppets from supporters on their Facebook page.

    The annual festival, which had taken place for 18 years without interruption at East Jerusalem’s Hakwati theatre, known as the Palestinian national theatre, was supposed to start on June 22 and run for eight days. The plays, which included puppet shows, were performed by Arab Israeli, Palestinian, French, Turkish, and Nordic artists.

    However, the festival was blocked by a special warrant issued by Israel’s Public Security Minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch, who claimed that it was organised “with the Palestinian Authority’s sponsorship or on its behalf,” without written permission from the authorities, which is required under the 1994 Oslo Accords.

    The theatre’s executive director, Mohammad Halayka, has repeatedly denied the minister’s accusation, and explained that the festival is supported by the Norwegian representative office in Ramallah, as well as private Palestinian companies and a Palestinian non-governmental organisation. Contacted by Haaretz, a spokeswoman for the public ministry declined to say whether any evidence linked the Palestinian Authority with the festival. The theatre has retained a lawyer to challenge the festival’s cancellation.

    Meanwhile, Jerusalem city council member Ysef Alulu, who is in charge of the municipality’s culture portfolio, has expressed disappointment with the government’s decision. “I know how much money is spent in West Jerusalem [on cultural programs],” he told 972 magazine, pointing out that there were few cultural events for children in East Jerusalem. “We have two Jerusalems divided.”

    1. At last comment the British were still quite pissed at America refusing it's putting on a youth educational program in Washington DC, the British, expressed outrage that Americans were cutting their access off to the "colonies" since the America's were really theirs.

      "America should really understand that the Brits are not a security threat and that our right to educate American kids about how the British lands were stolen by the Yanks 243 years ago and that we still have "keys" to our homes." So said a visibly angry Prime Minister.


    2. At last check? The so called Palestinians have NO legal rights to do anything with the PA in East Jerusalem.

      if the Palestinians seek that right? They need to get permission from Israel.

    3. Maybe Israel should just set up areas in their historic areas in the middle east and do the same? Oh yeah, the arabs? drove them out in 1948.

      More Jews were driven from their homes than arabs EVER were.

      In fact today? In Israel there are 1.2 MILLION arabs living as citizens. No in the other 899/900th of the middle east? The arabs have completely murdered and or cleansed the lands of the Jews, who predated the Arabs in these lands by over 700 years.

      Facts suck. Palestinians and the Arabs lost the wars they started. Jerusalem is now a united city with all faiths represented.

      In the lands that the "Palestinians control"? No Jew in their right mind would go as they would be chopped up into tiny pieces.. Not that any Palestinian leader could tolerate any jews living in a future state.

      What looks like south africa is the arab world... Not Israel.

      But most of you would not know that never actually having traveled there....

  5. The usual Rubbish from the usual suspects. Here are the real facts:

    During the first stages of the Arab Revolt, due to rivalry between the clans of al-Husseini and Nashashibi among the Palestinian Arabs, Raghib Nashashibi was forced to flee to Egypt after several assassination attempts ordered by the radical mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husayni.

    Following the Arab rejection of the Peel Commission recommendation, the revolt resumed in autumn 1937. Over the next 18 months, the British lost control of Nablus and Hebron. British forces, supported by 6,000 armed Jewish auxiliary police, suppressed the widespread riots with overwhelming force. The British officer Charles Orde Wingate (who supported a Zionist revival for religious reasons[citation needed]) organised Special Night Squads composed of British soldiers and Jewish volunteers such as Yigal Alon, which “scored significant successes against the Arab rebels in the lower Galilee and in the Jezreel valley” by conducting raids on Arab villages.

    The Jewish militia, Irgun, used violence also against Arab civilians as “retaliatory acts”, attacking marketplaces and buses. ( sound familiar?)

    By the time the revolt concluded in March 1939, more than 5,000 Arabs, 400 Jews, and 200 Britons had been killed and at least 15,000 Arabs were wounded. The Revolt resulted in the deaths of 5,000 Palestinian Arabs and the wounding of 10,000. In total, 10% of the adult Arab male population was killed, wounded, imprisoned, or exiled.

    1. nicely written.. love how you erased the arab pogroms of the Jews in the late 1920's...

      The Hebron massacre refers to the killing of sixty-seven Jews (including 23 college students) on 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of Mandatory Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.[1] The event also left scores seriously wounded or maimed. Jewish homes were pillaged and synagogues were ransacked. Many of the 435 Jews who survived were hidden by local Arab families.[2][3] Soon after, all Hebron's Jews were evacuated by the British authorities. Many returned in 1931, but almost all left again during 1936–1939.[4] The massacre formed part of the 1929 Palestine riots, in which a total of 133 Jews were killed by Arabs, and brought the centuries-old Jewish presence in Hebron to an end.

    2. also skipped?

      The Arab Legion (al-Jaysh al-Arabī) was the regular army of Transjordan and then Jordan in the early part of the 20th century.

      In October 1920, after taking over the Transjordan region, the United Kingdom formed a unit of 150 men called the "Mobile Force" under the command of Captain Frederick Gerard Peake to defend the territory against both internal and external threats.[1] The Legion was based in Zarqa and 80 percent of its men were the local Chechens.[2]

      It was quickly expanded to 1,000 men recruiting Arabs who had served in the military of the Ottoman Empire. On 22 October 1923, the police were merged with the Reserve Mobile Force, still under Peake, who was now an employee of the Emirate of Transjordan. The new force was named Al Jeish al Arabi (the Arab Army) but was always known officially in English as the Arab Legion. The Arab Legion was financed by Britain and commanded by British officers.[3] The force was formed as a police force to keep order among the tribes of Transjordan and to guard the important Jerusalem–Amman road.
      On 1 April 1926, the Transjordan Frontier Force was formed from cadre drawn from the Arab Legion. It consisted of only 150 men and most of them were stationed along Transjordan's roads. During this time the Arab Legion was reduced to 900 men and was also stripped of its machine guns, artillery, and communications troops.

    3. the fact is that the ARAB world was fighting the Jews.

      To limit the argument to those Arabs within a tidy 10 square mile reference is specious.

      The arab league as well as the collective arab world fought against the jews.

      But if you think that 6000 Jews can whip the ass of several hundred thousand arabs?

      so be it.

      Facts dont lie.

      the arabs control 899/900 of the middle east.

      the jews control 1/900th and 20% of it's population are arabs.

      no matter how you spin it?

      the arabs were on hitler's side...

      the Jews were not.

      there are no jews of any measure left in the arab occupied world and they are not welcomed there.

      However Arabs are full citizens of Israel.

      aint that a bitch spray?

      now go ahead and delete this...

      cant have truth stay up to long here...

  6. Here are the raw facts: In 1914 Palestine had a population of 650,000 Muslim Arabs, 75,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.

    Israel is an apartheid state of Eastern European and American Jews and have to reinvent history to come up with the preposterous claim that they have a historic claim to lands that have been settled by Arabs for thousands of years.

    It is bullshit. You know it. Deal with it.

    1. And today, Israel has a population of 1.2 MILLION arabs,

      deal with it.

      And you erase Jewish living in the arab occupied lands as easy as you wipe your ass...

      deal with it.

      your blindness of the 750,000 jews thrown out of their homes by your butt buddies the arabs seems to escape you.

      the area now described as "palestine"? now has 5 million arabs.

      70% of historic palestine is JEW FREE

      deal with it.

      your usage of the term "apartheid" shows the weakness of your argument.

  7. The Europeans that colonized Palestine have a claim based on force of arms. That is the way it is done. Man up and take credit that you had better guns and a better propaganda machine, but spare us the daily bullshit that God made you do it because of old ink on old goat skins.

    "Plunk your magic twanger froggie” and fuck off.

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    2. oh you wouldnt do that...

      you might LEARN something

    3. but not to worry, your heroes, the palestinians and arabs are butt fucking each other to death as we speak.

      your fears about Israel sticking around will prove valid.

      How is your life in AMerica? Still living on stolen lands?

    4. I am used to it...

      And Israel IS.

      Back in it's liberated lands of old...

      get used to it, bitch

    5. Now for some fun facts.

      Israel is the ONLY nation in the middle east that is stable with a pluralistic population.

      There are more arabs in the tiny lands of Israel today than existed in the entire region in 1948.

      Over 1.2 million arabs have freedom and human rights IN ISRAEL.

      Over 750,000 Jews that were DRIVEN from their homes INTO Israel by the arabs helped create the wonderful and diverse population of Israel.

      In 1945, roughly 1 million Jews lived peacefully in the various Arab states of the Middle East, many of them in communities that had existed for thousands of years. After the Arabs rejected the United Nations decision to partition Palestine and create a Jewish state, however, the Jews of the Arab lands became targets of their own governments’ anti-Zionist fervor. As Egypt’s delegate to the UN in 1947 chillingly told the General Assembly: “The lives of one million Jews in Muslim countries will be jeopardized by partition.” The dire warning quickly became the brutal reality.

      Throughout 1947 and 1948, Jews in Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya, Morocco, Syria, and Yemen (Aden) were persecuted, their property and belongings were confiscated, and they were subjected to severe anti-Jewish riots instigated by the governments. In Iraq, Zionism was made a capital crime. In Syria, anti-Jewish pogroms erupted in Aleppo and the government froze all Jewish bank accounts. In Egypt, bombs were detonated in the Jewish quarter, killing dozens. In Algeria, anti-Jewish decrees were swiftly instituted and in Yemen, bloody pogroms led to the death of nearly 100 Jews.

    6. So the creation of Israel and it's success? the Arabs!!!

      Thanks to the Arabs for driving 800k - 1 million Jews from their homes to the nation of Israel.

  8. Now let's all embrace deuce's thought process for a moment.

    AMerica is cool, it conquered the lands.

    Arabs are cool they conquered the lands.

    So? Jews conquered the lands (if you dont like liberated).

    Sucks to be a loser like the palestinians. they lost.

    they need to learn they are losers.

    Force of arms baby?

    Then the arabs have LOST every war they have started in modern history..


    the war is over, Israel won, arabs lost.

    deal with it.

  9. Now, a little warning to you: I have things to do. I am tired of your bullshit, Write what you want, but enter any of the magic words {you know what they are} and I will delete all you posts. Have a nice day.

    1. Come on Deuce, WiO is the most interesting guy here. I don't know what the magic words are and I am trying to be polite after some serious failures of my own but I can't recall WiO threatening anyone.


    2. Deuce has a list.

      Not sure of all of them.

      He hates when I call his $%^&&^ A ^&^%$

    3. It's really amazing, Deuce call call Israel an apartheid nation. Call me and other's like me "israel firsters" "5th column", slander Jews and Israel but dont say certain words it gets his goat...

    4. Well Let's see...

      Israel, a great nation for a great people...

    5. How about?

      Israel come and fall in love...

      Cant say that about Palestine

    6. How about...

      Jerusalem, the City of King David, the Jew. What a city, what a capital!

      Those Jews can sure make a beautiful nation.

    7. Israel? Never been there?

      Dont believe the lies by those who never have been. Come and visit and fall in love.

    8. Of course you course go to college in Israel, they have some of the BEST in the world...

    9. Want to water ski? snow ski? parasail? hike? ride horses? eat at great food joints? see great beaches?

      Go to Israel, ENJOY....

    10. Now let's discuss how arabs are treated in Israel.

      they run for office, they are treated to full civil rights, they own businesses, they sit on the supreme court, they win beauty contests, they are free to travel, they can vote, they can in fact do anything a Jew can do.

      All signs in Israel? are in Hebrew, Arabic and English.

    11. Apartheid was a system of legal racial separation which dominated the Republic of South Africa from 1948 until 1993

      Apartheid is an Afrikaans word meaning “apart” or “separate,” and one of the first pieces of apartheid legislation was the Group Areas Act of 1950, which segregated living spaces, concentrating whites in the cities and forcing people of color into rural areas or the urban fringes. In addition to separating whites from nonwhites, apartheid also separated different races, and fraternization between Africans of different tribes, Asians, and Europeans was frowned upon. Whites and nonwhites held different jobs, lived in different regions, and were subject to different levels of pay, education, and health care. Apartheid paid no attention to former social or residential status, dividing people up by color.

      Sorry that aint Israel. But it sure sounds like Palestine or Arabia

    12. 'Dozens dead' in school attack in Nigeria's Yobe state

      At least 29 pupils and a teacher have been killed in a pre-dawn attack by suspected Islamists on a school in northeastern Nigeria, reports say.

      Eyewitnesses said some of the victims were burned alive in the attack, in Mamudo town, Yobe state.

      Dozens of schools have been burned in attacks by Islamists since 2010.

      Yobe is one of three states where President Goodluck Jonathan declared a state of emergency in May, sending thousands of troops to the area.

      A reporter from the Associated Press found chaotic scenes at the hospital in nearby Potiskum, where traumatised parents struggled to identify their children among the charred bodies and gunshot victims.

      Survivors said suspected militants arrived with containers full of fuel and set fire to the school.

      Perhaps they need a puppet show....

    13. Syria warplanes bombard outskirts of Damascus

      Syrian warplanes launched a series of strikes on the outskirts of Damascus Saturday as President Bashar al-Assad's regime pressed a bid to drive back rebels, a monitoring group said.
      Fresh fighting meanwhile erupted in several flashpoint areas around the capital, while the army renewed its shelling on besieged rebel areas of the central city of Homs, said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
      "Warplanes carried out several air strikes on the edges of Assali (in the south) and Qaboon (east)," said the Britain-based group, referring to areas on the outskirts of Damascus.

      Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/06/syria-warplanes-bombard-outskirts-damascus-ngo/#ixzz2YGyjGxe1

      Perhaps they need a puppet show?

    14. A Night of Violence as Morsi Supporters Fight for His Return

      Scores Dead...

      CAIRO — Egyptian officials were assessing the damage Saturday from a night of deadly street fighting as a bitter split over who should be ruling the country led to overnight battles between demonstrators celebrating the ouster of President Mohamed Morsi and crowds of Islamists who wanted him reinstated.

      Combatants used rocks, sticks, fireworks and Molotov cocktails in a battle lasting hours that raged Friday night near Tahrir Square and across a bridge spanning the Nile, part of the most widespread street violence in Egypt since the early days of the 2011 revolution.

      perhaps a puppet show is what they need?

  10. Non sense Deuce.

    "thousands of years"?

    O come on.

    The best sources I have read tell me that much of what is now 'Palestine' was a wasteland owned by absentee Turkish landowners until the Jews began to come back after the nightmare of Europe, buy up some land and actually do something with it, and desert arabs began to ask them for jobs.

    Get a grip.


    1. Jewish people along with my niece rank really high on the "Get Off Your Ass And Do Something" index.


    2. Bop, stick with alfalfa and new nieces.

    3. Higher than I and I have worked very hard at what I think of as 'stoop labor' most of my life.


    4. Of the two I find the new niece much the more interesting, I can tell you that.



    5. But intend to stick with both.


  11. Here is what I understand that we agree on:

    no one wants a national security state (exception possibly being Rufus)

    everyone seems to want less government

    most are becoming highly suspicious of ObamaCare

    the mid east always is a big bone of contention

    but domestically we are mostly 'on the same page'

    let's be polite and try to give one another a break


    1. And thank you Sam for the much needed humor!


  12. Meanwhile I see on Drudge that Barky is saying to the MB "I have your back".

    But modern Egyptian women and the Egyptian military seem to be thinking otherwise.

    We should not have elected a sunni President.

    We shall see what occurs. I know who I am rooting for.


  13. The lawyer whose name I failed to come up with the other day concerning the Zim trial is Dersowitz(sp?), the guy who said there was not enough evidence to even go to trial, as the investigating police first recognized.

    This lawyer is a Jewish man. My father, who was 100 percent Swede, would have agreed with him altogether.


  14. .

    The AP says Venezuela and Nicaragua have offered Snowden asylum.

    No one likes the hassle of a flight delay.


  15. Now I have learned (I think) that the jury in this case is six women, and I have no idea of the racial makeup.

    Best guess here is Zim walks.

    Alternative: hung jury


  16. Out here in the wilds of Idaho the law actually gives women a fudge on the issue of 'personal safety and a gun'. She can, and should, blow you away. The idea is that women are more vulnerable and should be allowed to defend themselves in the first order.

    I like the idea and I like knowing my daughter has a concealed weapon and now knows the law here.

    But we are apes....


    1. and how to use a weapon