“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, November 02, 2014

ISIS religious fanatics continue their mass killing

Public executions and mass graves: ISIS targets Sunni tribe in Iraq
By Odai Sadik, Chelsea J. Carter and Todd Leopold, CNN

updated 10:43 PM EDT, Sat November 1, 2014

  • Hundreds of members of Albu Nimr tribe have been killed by ISIS
  • ISIS fighters carried out public executions of tribesmen in Hit
  • Group had more than 50 members abducted by ISIS Saturday
  • Earlier in the week, many others had been killed

Baghdad, Iraq (CNN) -- They were taken from their homes, some pulled from their beds, in the middle of the night. They were fathers, brothers and sons, members of the U.S.-allied Albu Nimr tribe -- the Sunni clan considered among the last holdouts against ISIS in Iraq's western desert.
About 50 members of the tribe were abducted in Hit in Anbar province, west of Baghdad, during the early morning hours on Saturday, Sheikh Nabil Al-Ga'oud, a tribal leader, told CNN.

Their fate is unknown. But Al-Ga'oud and others believe they are likely dead, the latest casualties of ISIS who have killed hundreds of members of the tribe in mass executions in recent days.

The Albu Nimr, who number in the tens of thousands, are ready to fight to take back Hit, Al-Ga'oud said. The city was seized last month by ISIS fighters after weeks of fighting the tribesmen. Hit and neighboring Ramadi were holdouts in the Sunni-dominated Anbar province after ISIS swept in from Syria, taking town after town in the western province. Albu Nimr tribesmen were among those who fought them until they began running of out weapons and supplies.

Tribal leader says fighters ready to strike ISIS
Albu Nimr has a strong force ready to attack Hit, but they need to get the final OKs from the government and also try to coordinate with the Americans, Al-Ga'oud said.
Anbar was the scene of a bloody insurgency during the U.S.-led war in Iraq until an uprising by Sunni tribes, including Albu Nimr, in 2006 took on al Qaeda in Iraq -- the forerunner to ISIS, also known as ISIL. U.S. officials maintain that Iraqi support for Sunni tribes going on the offensive against ISIS will be a necessary part in the effort to defeat the militants, who refer to themselves as the Islamic State.

In a news conference this week, Gen. Martin Dempsey, the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, signaled the possibility of the new role when he said the Iraqi government had not yet requested U.S. military support in efforts to defend a Sunni tribe that has suffered mass executions at the hands of ISIS militants.

"That's why we need to expand the train-advise-and-assist mission into the ... Anbar Province," Dempsey said. "But the precondition for that is that the government of Iraq is willing to arm the tribes.”

Dempsey said the United States had "positive indications" the Iraqi government was prepared to do that but had not yet acted. There is no indication from Pentagon officials on when such a mission could begin.

Public executions, mass graves
The abduction and suspected killings follow reports this week of public executions and the discovery of mass graves containing the bodies of tribesmen killed by ISIS.

The bodies of an estimated 200 members of Albu Nimr were found in a mass grave just outside Hit, a senior Iraqi security official told CNN. The tribesmen were captured by ISIS fighters after it took control of the area, the official said.

Another 48 tribesmen were marched through the streets of Hit before they were publicly executed, the official said. And a mass grave was found in nearby Ramadi, according to Iraqi media accounts. Video of those executions had been uploaded to the Internet.

"We are deeply concerned by reports of mass executions of Sunni tribesmen in Anbar province by ISIL and strongly condemn the brutal actions that ISIL continues to perpetrate against the Iraqi people," U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.
"...ISIL's indiscriminate crimes prove, yet again, that it is targeting all Iraqis, regardless of faith or region.”

Albu Nimr fights back
Albu Nimr is known for its fighting skill and resistance.
A 2003 Brookings Institution report observed that, though most Iraqi Sunni tribes were loyal to Saddam Hussein in the days when he ran the country, the Albu Nimr tribe had mounted a protest against the former Iraqi strongman in 1995 after the execution of a noted member. The protest was put down by paramilitary forces loyal to Saddam.

In general, however, Saddam respected the Albu Nimr. Since Saddam's fall, they've been tapped to oppose al Qaeda in Iraq. They were also part of last year's Sunni uprising against the former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and his Shiite-dominated government.

They have been fighting ISIS but say they haven't received much support from the Iraqi government and international coalition members.


  1. None of them have any education at all. Not at all, not at all.......

    Combined with this they have a murderous religious out look

    Culture, and the lack of it, counts.

    Chakra Two.

    1. They want to burn books......

    2. The Daesh may want to burn books the Zionists do.

      May 20, 2008 - Orthodox Jews burn hundreds of New Testaments in latest act of violence against Christian missionaries in Israel. ... The Maariv newspaper reported Tuesday that hundreds of students took part in the book-burning. . . .

  2. It is the inability or even effort to master oneself, for oneself, much less the betterment of others..

    It is disgusting and gross.

    B-52s come to my mind.

    This is objected to, by those who do not remember Jeremy Bentham.

    What about the innocent?, is the reply.

    Are there any?

    And how - rationally? -do we count the best outcome, the better benefits in the long term?

    What is Rationality is such a situation?

    I'm not sure.

    Let them kill one another then......

    That seems the majority opinion here, and, really, across the Western World now.

    1. B-52s, unconditional surrender, like in Japan or Germany.................wonderful new countries with entirely new many many new young lives able to grow up in something approaching saniiy........

      What would Jeremy Bentham say?

      I don't know.

    2. sanity

      let us keep our brains about us

  3. And, to make the issue more complex, what about our own interests, and those of the betterment of the entire world?


  4. SIN - which means MISS THE MARK -


    said Martin Luther......:)

    one of the few things I agreed with him on.....

    Sometimes we don't even know what the best mark is......but doing nothing is just another CHOICE.

  5. Oh maaan, boobie shit smeared everywhere...

    1. He can't stay off the sauce.
      He exposed his inner truth.

      In vino veritas

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    1. Status of Al Aqsa ‘will change’ - extremist Israeli politician

      Tibi warns that that the Israeli regime is ‘playing with fire’ in Jerusalem

      Ramallah: An extremist Israeli politician who has been accused of inciting radical Jews to continue their raids of occupied Jerusalem’s Al Aqsa mosque has pledged to change the status quo at the mosque in favour of continued Jewish incursions.

      Right wing Israeli MP Moshe Feiglin said during his latest incursion into Islam’s third holiest site that he will work to change the status quo of the mosque to which Jews have traditionally been barred.

      Feiglin, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, visited the site under tight security on Sunday accompanied by a security detail appointed under orders from Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein on Thursday. Hundreds of Feiglin’s extremist supporters accompanied him on the incursion.

      Israeli news site Ynet News quoted Feiglin as stating,
      “The fact that there is a necessity for a security escort at an hour when Arabs are walking around here freely without any fear, says more than anything who feels like a visitor here and who feels like the owner of this site. We will change this reality with the help of God.”

      The reality is that the Zionists have abandoned God ... Abandoned the 'Book', abandoned the 'Word'.

      Socialist secularism reigns in Israel. All they have is brute force.

    2. That didn't take long for the Israel basher, Judaism trasher, Jew hating worm of a human to come out this AM.

    3. The news is the news, no censor can deny it.

    4. Brute force?


      Syria's assad murdered 500 this week, Isis murdered 200, Saudi Arabia beheaded 49, Iran executed a gal for defending herself against a rapist...

      But never let it be said that a moment could pass without Jack lying....

    5. I was not discussing Syria, but Israel and their attempts at annexing Palestine, by brute force.
      A campaign that is now in its 67th year.

      The Israeli not as militarily competent as their propagandists would like us to believe.

    6. The Israeli are far better than you'd admit, ever.

      AND the proof?

      America is killing, by % scores more civilians in both Syria and across the globes in their attempts to kill your friends, the Jihadists,

      Israel is leap years ahead of the world.

      As for "brute force" to "annex" the nonexistent place called "palestine"?

      No, not brute force, but by natural usage and stewardship.

      The lands of the territories of the Mandate of Palestine have never flourished as well as they have but under israeli stewardship.

      possession is 9/10th of the law. israel IS

      there is NO Palestine. They arabs that call themselves that do not have a government of any quality, they do not control their natural resources or their borders (there are no borders) as you love to point out.

      The fake nationalistic movement called "palestinians" is crumbling and having a civil war...

      And Yes, i will pop corn and laugh as they slaughter one another...

      When Hamas tossed scores of Fatah/PA member off the high rises of gaza? That was a fun moment....

      As Egypt is destroying 10,000 homes in Rafal? Creating a "breathing space"? I am laughing and popping corn...

      While you point out the crimes of ISIS? (which are war crimes) and Ignore the Iranian/Syrian murder of hundreds of thousands? I laugh at YOU...

      the innocents being murdered by their fellow moslems is a tragedy, but not of my responsibility nor action, it is a consequence of people like you....

      their blood is on your hands...

      butter from my popcorn is on mine.

  7. Sunni on Sunni now. WiO and I will be on the lawn chairs eating popcorn.

    1. "O"rdure, he is right there in Israel, but Ms T, can you see Iraq from your porch?
      Are you channeling Sarah Palin, now-a-days?

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    3. Closest I been the fucking Middle East is D-Gar. Closest I wanna get.

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  9. The El Nimrods are probably well down the priorities list at this time.

    They need to find peace with the government.

  10. .

    Another reason the US should have never gotten involved with this war in the first place.

    The controlling factor in Iraq/Syria is 'the enemy of my enemy is my enemy'. There are no allies, there only adversaries. And when the US finally 'wins' (regardless of what that means in the end) we will merely be left with the last dick standing.


    1. And, the oil.

      The true objective.

    2. We got into this war because having no strategy to deal with ISIS was bad optics before the election. After the GOP gets the Senate Obama will go fuck it and dial back.

    3. The Iraqi production is down, under their 3 million barrel per day production allotment.
      While in Syria the oil production infrastructure is being targeted and ... at least ... significantly degraded.

      Th Saudi and their neighboring Gulf States remain the primary source of oil, to the global market.

    4. Day to day fluctuations aside, the administration was/is not about to let an outfit like ISIS have control of 2.5 to 3.0 Million bbls / day of oil.

      That's $250 Million to $300 Million Every Day going to the Daesh? Not gonna happen.

    5. Good, then maybe the global market should be in there stomping ISIS, we're got Texas and North Dakota.

    6. For better or worse, Ms T, the US has volunteered to be the police force for the Global Market.
      That police force has been 'militarized'.

  11. As for Syria, the US does not subsidize the regime of President Assad.
    Indeed not.
    The US has provided material aid to those in rebellion against the legitimate government, the one currently recognized by the UN.

    It drew the line, though, when it appeared that al-Qeada operatives would take power there, in Syria.
    The Israelis, however, would prefer it, if al-Qeada were to take charge of Syria.

    Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies

    Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

    “We always wanted Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran.”

    Even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated with al-Qaeda.
    “We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” Oren said in the interview.

    Israel - Founded by Terrorists and Sustained by Terrorism and now ... Allied with Islamic Terrorists

    1. Israel - Founded by Terrorists and Sustained by Terrorism and now ... Allied with Islamic Terrorists

      Are you talking about America?


    2. Jack's posts bring up a point....

      Since words will no longer have any meaning, words used against Israel? Have no meaning.

    3. All that matters is reality.

      Israel IS.

      There is no real nation of Palestine.

      Hamas still terrorizes it's own people.

      Egypt is blowing up and bulldozing 10,000 arabs of Rafah, call them palestinians is you choose, either way and the largest most powerful arab nation is destroying them and closing off the strip and BUILDING a water filled MOAT...



      Iran just hanged a woman for murdering her rapist.


      Assad and Iran dropped barrel bombs last week in syria murdering over 500 men, women and babies.

      Regardless of words, those folks are dead.

      regardless of UN words?

      no one is lifting finger to help them

    4. The US is badly mistaken in considering that Israel is an ally. It is not, it is a political sink and a wasting tax with no benefit the US public. Since the US economy got punished by OPEC for the US foolishly taking Israel’s side and coming to her defense, it has been nothing more than a one sided parasitic relationship where the US gives and Israel takes.

      If I am wrong, give me three substantial examples of where Israel has done anything for the US that was not self-serving, they weren’t paid for or it was not a ruse to tighten Israeli influence on the Conga Line.

      Good luck.

  12. Hit is a town of 100,000 up NW of Ramadi on the Euphrates, of no pressing strategic, or political importance. They are well down on the to-do list.

    1. Largely famous for camels. Someday the entire Middle East will be largely famous for camels.

    2. Yep; which is why the United States better get busy becoming "Largely Famous for Alternative Energy."

  13. U.S. Marine reservist Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi, jailed in Mexico on gun charges since March, was ordered released by a judge in Mexico on Friday, according to documents released by the court.

  14. BAGHDAD (AP) — Islamic State group extremists lined up and shot dead at least 50 Iraqi tribesmen, women and children Sunday, officials said, the latest mass slaying by militants who have killed some 150 members of the tribe in recent days.
    Related Stories

    Iraqi officials: IS extremists line up and kill 50 Associated Press
    Iraq imposes curfew in Ramadi, fearing militants Associated Press
    IS jihadists execute more than 40 tribesmen in Iraq's Anbar AFP
    Suicide, car bombings in Iraq kill at least 33 Associated Press
    Tribes in tense Abu Ghraib vow to keep IS out Associated Press

    The killings, all committed in public, target the Sunni Al Bu Nimr tribe that the Islamic State group now apparently views as a threat, though previously some Sunnis backed the expansion of the group and other militants into the volatile province in December.

    As Deuce posted.

    At the same time Hamas fired rockets at the civilians of Israel, attempting to do the same.

    The attempt is a war crime.....

    Hamas also has sent it's operatives into Israel to murder a baby, and attempt to murder a Rabbi...

    Yep ISIS and Hamas 2 feathers from the same bird.

    One has to wonder how is it so easy for ISIS to kill so many with out any fighting back?

    1. Israel has closed the 2 crossings to the Gaza strip (except for humanitarian issues) indefinitely, to which Hamas has called it a violation of the "cease fire"

      So Hamas fires rockets and then bitches like the pussies they are, when Israel closes the crossings....


      Where is that "brute force" that I would LOVE to see happen against the Hamas?

    2. David Ben-Gurion referring to Palestinian refugees:
      "We must do everything in our power to ensure that they never return."

      • Address at the Mapai Political Committee (7 June 1938) as quoted in Feuerlicht, Roberta, 1983.

    3. Home Demolitions: By the Numbers

      Since 1967, Israel has destroyed approximately 27,000 Palestinian structures in the occupied territories (the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip), including more than 24,000 homes, according to ICAHD.

      Since the renewal of negotiations in August 2013, Israel has destroyed approximately 25 Palestinian homes, in addition to dozens of other structures, leaving approximately 200 people homeless.

      According to the UN, between January and September 2013, 862 Palestinians were displaced by Israeli demolitions, compared to 886 (including 468 children) in all of 2012.

      In 2012, a total of 600 Palestinian structures were demolished by Israel in the occupied territories, including at least 189 homes, according to ICAHD.
      This figure doesn’t include “self-demolitions” whereby Palestinians destroy their own homes ...
      rather than have Israel do it and charge them an additional fine.

      One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

      Between 2005 and 2012, Israel demolished approximately 1500 Palestinian homes due to owners lacking hard-to-obtain construction permits.

      Between 1993 and 2000, when the Oslo Accords were being negotiated between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization,
      Israel destroyed almost 1700 Palestinian homes in the occupied territories.

      Immediately following Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza in 1967, approximately 6000 Palestinian homes were demolished, including four entire villages in the Latrun area, along with dozens of homes in the Mughrabi Quarter of Jerusalem’s Old City, which were destroyed to make way for a plaza for the Western Wall.

      In 1971, between 2000 and 6000 Palestinian homes were destroyed in Gaza in an effort to pacify the newly occupied territory.

      During Israel’s creation (1948-49),
      Zionist and then Israeli forces expelled approximately 750,000 Palestinian Arabs from their ancestral lands in order to create a Jewish majority state of Israel.

      In the process, more than 400 Palestinian population centers were systematically destroyed, including thousands of homes, businesses, and houses of worship.

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    5. One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

      Got to love this comment....

      50 times in 4 years...

      some structure....

      tents and tin sheets no doubt...

    6. Deuce ☂Sun Nov 02, 10:28:00 AM EST
      The Bull-dozin Chosen

      maybe the Israelis should treat the arabs like America treated the Indians?

      or the Russians treated the Chechens?

      Or Assad treats his own citizens?

      Or Sudan treats it's South Sudanese?

      Or China treats the Tibetians?

      Or The French treated the Algerians?

      Or the Germans treated everyone?

      Or the Iraqis treated the Iranians or the Kuwaitis?

      Deuce ☂Sun Nov 02, 10:28:00 AM EST
      The Bull-dozin Chosen

      As you said, stick to issues and points.

      Deuce ☂Sun Nov 02, 10:28:00 AM EST
      The Bull-dozin Chosen

      IS anti-semitic.

      Try that comment on your Jewish friends and see how they react...

    7. But silly me, you just can't stand Israel. Right?

      I call bullshit.

    8. "O"rdure is trying, valiantly, to make the case that Israel is the moral equivalent of Assad's Syria.

      How the sanctimonious have fallen

    9. Actually, I love Israel, alive and prosperous, free and at peace with its neighbors. I want to see it be saved from the damn fools that rule it and at the rate they are going will one day have it vaporized by one nuclear hit.

    10. You Israel?

      And yet when asked to visit it?

      What was your answer????????

      How do you make peace with those sworn to your genocide?

    11. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 10:46:00 AM EST
      "O"rdure is trying, valiantly, to make the case that Israel is the moral equivalent of Assad's Syria.

      How the sanctimonious have fallen

      Hardly Jack, I am saying Israel stands shoulders ABOVE America.

      Your reading skills are deteriorating.

    12. Deuce ☂Sun Nov 02, 10:28:00 AM EST
      The Bull-dozin Chosen

      tsk tsk

    13. For Jack...

      learn to READ in context:

      maybe the Israelis should treat the arabs like America treated the Indians?

      or the Russians treated the Chechens?

      Or Assad treats his own citizens?

      Or Sudan treats it's South Sudanese?

      Or China treats the Tibetians?

      Or The French treated the Algerians?

      Or the Germans treated everyone?

      Or the Iraqis treated the Iranians or the Kuwaitis?

      I understand you cannot read and comprehend more than one line at time, but TRY....


      the entire post, not proof texting a snippet.

    14. Deuce ☂Sun Nov 02, 10:52:00 AM EST
      Actually, I love Israel, alive and prosperous, free and at peace with its neighbors. I want to see it be saved from the damn fools that rule it and at the rate they are going will one day have it vaporized by one nuclear hit.

      Any enemy of Israel that is willing, wanting and trying to "vaporize" israel? Should be destroyed.

  15. When the Republicans take the Senate next week you can thank nurse Hickox. She gave a huge boost to the Republicans.

  16. On another matter, I am cheering for a 50/50 tie in the Senate. I have zero confidence in the Republican or Democratic party to do the right thing or anything that will increase freedom and wealth for the general US population. On the contrary, if the Republicans do take control, it will serve the Democrats well. Two years of both houses of the Conga Line, controlled and cheered on by the Republican establishment, aligned and beholden to those that don’t vote for them but loved by every Republican presidential candidate, will be more than enough time to scare the living B-Jesus out of the US public and guarantee a shoe-in to any sane Democrat. God willing.

    1. You don't believe in "God"

      At least not any "god" that the normal folks of the USA would recognize.

    2. It doesn't look like "God's Willing." :)

      It appears that the Republicans are going to get there, this time.

    3. No matter who wins on Tuesday, Obama will be there on Nov 24th to appease the Iranians to the point of allowing them to continue to build more and better centrifuges, weapon systems and ICBM platforms..

      Then? the world will see an Sunni race to multiple NUKE platforms asap...

      Welcome to the new world.

    4. I am impressed by the god loving god fearing wing here at the bar, the popcorn eaters that love and cheer on human death and destruction in Gaza and the Middle East as long as the sorry pathetic victims are other than the chosen special, god’s children. The same one’s that want to bring Iran into war, actually the same crew that believes the most in war is most coincidentally of the ilk that has served the least. Imagine that.

    5. I am impressed with your selective reading of my words.

    6. I am impressed with your support and cheering of Hamas rocketing 6,000 rockets at the men, women and children of Israel.

      I am impressed with your cheering the scolding of Israel for all crimes, both real and imagined.

      Yes I laugh at YOU and Rat and those that support the jihadists slaughter of others...

      However I do not laugh at the slaughter of INNOCENTS.

      I do laugh at the slaughter of HAMAS terrorists or FATAH terrorists at each other's hands....

      I have tons of popcorn and butter to watch JIHADISTS of both sides whacking each other.

      My point still stands, you comment was anti-semeitc and I want you to use that on your jewish friends in real life...

    7. Deuce: The same one’s that want to bring Iran into war,

      The west has BEEN at war with Iran. Iran has been at war with us.

      If cannot see that?

      You cannot see straight.

  17. Royal Canadian Air Force CF-18 Hornets have conducted their first combat mission supporting Operation Inherent Resolve. And here are some interesting shots.

    On Oct. 30, RCAF CF-18 Hornets took part in the first air strikes against ISIS targets in support of US-led Operation Inherent Resolve.

    The images in this post were taken as the Canadian Hornets were refueled by a U.S. Air Force KC-135 Stratotanker assigned to the 340th Expeditionary Air Refueling Squadron, over Iraq.

    Now the Daesh have had it

    1. Helping Assad and Iranians murder hundreds of civilians a week!

  18. .

    QuirkSun Nov 02, 09:19:00 AM EST

    Another reason the US should have never gotten involved with this war in the first place.

    The controlling factor in Iraq/Syria is 'the enemy of my enemy is my enemy'. There are no allies, there only adversaries. And when the US finally 'wins' (regardless of what that means in the end) we will merely be left with the last dick standing.

    To continue that thought,.

    The Iraqi government needs the Sunnis if they want to take back Anbar but taking the long view they fear them too much to give them the arms needed for them to make a difference. We've seen instances where the Sunnis (Albu Nimr et a) have fought well but still been overrun do to the lack of arms and air support even though they asked for both. We have seen Iraqi military installations in Anbar overrun for the same reasons. The lack of support from Baghdad appears to be political. The lack of air support is no doubt due to the US insistence that all such support in Iraq be green lighted by the government.

    The Sunnis see this and view Baghdad as the enemy and the US as picking sides. Yet these are the same people we will need if we have any plans on taking back Anbar.

    Much of the same applies to the Kurds. The Kurds have their own agenda and it centers primarily on the Kurds. They will support the government’s efforts if it affects them directly but their demands are for a bigger piece of the oil pie and greater autonomy in Kurdistan.
    Baghdad is reluctant to grant either and fears giving the Kurds more weapons. The US sits on its hands struggling with its own self-imposed handcuffs.

    Among the Kurds, there are a dozen political parties and factions scattered across four nations. All would like an independent Kurdistan; however, each of the leaders of the major factions wants to make sure that if there is an independent state he will be the one in charge. The fact that the Iraqi Kurds are sending a couple hundred fighters to help in Kobane is being touted by some as a sign of solidarity among the Kurds. Bushwa. It is all PR. First, 200 fighters isn’t enough to make a difference however it does provide great PR for Erdogan and Barzani if and when Korbane is liberated. In that case, each could claim some part of the victory at little risk.

    Ocalan, who is in jail in Turkey, and Barzani are the two most powerful Kurdish leaders at the moment. Yet, even though Ocalan is in jail he is the real spiritual leader of the Kurds. Barzani is the wannabe who really only has full support in two provinces. Barzani needs all the good PR he can get. Sending a couple hundred fighters is nothing if it keeps him in the game.

    The move by Erdogan was also for the PR. His key aims are primarily to take out Assad, then to keep the Kurds emasculated, with a very far third being fighting the IS if he is forced to. The US and the NATO allies have been pressuring Erdogan to stop allowing IS recruits to travel through Turkey to Syria and to help the Kurds. There was no way Erdogan was going to send troops to help the Kurds in Kobane but he was persuaded to allow some Iraqi Kurds to pass through as long as they were Iraqi Kurds (Erdogan has a good relationship with Barzani) and not Turkish Kurds.

    Then you have Assad. He is currently making hay while the sun shines, taking advantage of the US bombing in the east of Syria to expand his operations in the west of Syria knowing full we that eventually the US might turn to him. But then he and his friends have always faced that possibility.

    As for the factions he is attacking, al-Qeada, the FSA, and al-Nusra, et al, they have been further alienated (along with Turkey) with the US’s de facto support of Assad and the rejection of any of them.

    The enemy of my enemy is my enemy is on full display in Iraq/Syria.


    1. Yet these are the same people we will need if we have any plans on taking back Anbar.

      There in lies the problem you have with understanding the US strategy, Legionnaire Q.

      The 'we', I assume is US.
      The US did not have Anbar and has no intention of "taking it back".

      That is not the goal, never was.
      The goal is to support the Iraqi government, the one installed in the "Golden Age" of the post Saddam occupation, in its effort to 'take back' Anbar.

      The goal of the US is to 'degrade and destroy' the Daesh, not take territory.

      The US has lots of time, and can wait while the Iraqi either 'get it together', or not.
      In the mean time the US will continue to support those that are allied with US in our low intensity conflict with al-Qeada and its divergent branches.

      While it is often confusing just who is whom, in the political world of the Islamic Arc, the US is moving ahead, half-stepping as it advances.

    2. .

      Thirty years of history would say you are wrong, rat.


  19. .

    There are those here who say things are going swimmingly for the US and their current and that the 'plan' is working.

    I disagree.

    I think the US is engaged in a half-hearted effort in Iraq/Syria hampered by the goals it has set and by political qualms.


    1. America should provide enough self defense weapons for the Kurds.

      IF needed? A public no go zone. to keep ISIS separated from Kurdish areas.


      America should not HELP Iran and Syria use insane killers like ISIS to be the public enemy while taking the eye off of Syria and Iran's MAJOR crimes of murder of the civilians of Syria.

      If every life is sacred?

      then the murder of 10,000 by ISIS is disgusting.

      what of the murder of 250,000 by assad (with Iran's direct support and help)???

  20. Quite simply, no one cares much if some ISIS assholes kill some Tribal assholes out in the middle of Anbar.

    Fallujah, Fallujah Dam, Tikrit, Sinjar, the Border Crossings, and some others come first. Hit is way down the list.

    1. I said, before, that this would be one of, if not "the," most unsatisfying (but, effective) wars in history.

  21. .

    Royal Canadian Air Force CF-18 Hornets have conducted their first combat mission supporting Operation Inherent Resolve. And here are some interesting shots.

    Now the Daesh have had it

    I disagree.

    Very nice pictures but I was listening to the CBC yesterday reporting on the first Canadian mission. Evidently they were unable find any targets. The explanation was that weather condition and 'other factors' prevented them from targeting any perps from the height they were operating from. They said they would be sending out TWO planes the next day.

    Two planes. Canada had sent over a total of six. If the same pattern holds, the coalition (minus the US) will be sending out what 10 to 12 planes a day to cover tens of thousands of square miles hoping to find a target. I still remain underwhelmed by the effort.


    1. Have another cup of coffee. The humor of the statement wasn't That dry. :)

    2. .

      I assumed the joke; however, it allowed me to make my broader point about the 'coalition'.


    3. .

      This is America's war.

      The 'coalition' is window dressing.


  22. .

    Quite simply, no one cares much if some ISIS assholes kill some Tribal assholes out in the middle of Anbar.

    Ridiculously simplistic.


    1. Yep, the effort is what we refer to as 'half-stepping'.
      No doubt about that.

      Not carpet bombing, not indiscriminate destruction of infrastructure and civilian housing ...
      It is a slow and steady pace, designed to denigrate actual enemy combatants, not use massive amounts of ordinance.

    2. Not to kill, maim or destroy the wrong folks or their property.

    3. Definitely not a game for the "emotionally invested."

      Adults, slowly and methodically, cleaning up the field.

      Economy of movement; plenty of time. Do it right.

  23. Jack: One Bedouin village, Al-Araqib, in the Negev desert in the south of Israel, has been destroyed more than 50 times by Israel since July 2010.

    This comment, repeated by Jack at least one hundred times, is hilarious.

    Thanks for the laugh

    1. That you find the destruction of peoples lives and property so humorous, succinctly tells the tale of the Israel.

    2. That you find the destruction of peoples lives and property so humorous, succinctly tells the tale of the Israeli.

    3. No it tells the tale of squatters being ejected from squatting...

      "Protesters clashed with police, who responded with pepper spray and paintball guns. "

      Is that Israeli BRUTE FORCE?

    4. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:11:00 AM EST
      That you find the destruction of peoples lives and property so humorous, succinctly tells the tale of the Israeli.

      It is funny...

      Tents and tin structures torn down is now "destruction of peoples lives and property"

      I also laughed when the Occupy Movement was finally forced off public park lands...

      Your usage of words create a void of meaning...

      You are a fool

    5. But as long as squatters will squat?

      Law enforcement across the globe will raze those illegal structures on other folks lands....

      I wonder will your illegal structure you squat in be razed anytime soon?

    6. When the "Squatter Settlers" are removed from their 'Jewish' communities, you will be reminded of that.

  24. .

    Fallujah, Fallujah Dam, Tikrit, Sinjar, the Border Crossings, and some others come first. Hit is way down the list.

    First, why would you go after targets controlled by IS before trying to hold on to towns you already control?

    Second, given that the targets suggested are the priorities why haven't there been any move against them? Obviously, other factors are in play.

    Third, why is the US effort centered on support for Kobane. One of the reasons stated by the brass is that that is were the enemy is, in formation, in numbers. Why wouldn't the same apply around Hit. There were plenty of IS there.

    Fourth, you say the US is doing what it has to, bombin and a bombin and a bombin. All that bombin does is leave a big hole in the sand if there are not targets. There were plenty of targets at Hit. There was an active force of friendlies on the ground and they were actively fighting. They were able to get in touch with Baghdad why weren't they able to get support?

    Hit went down because of politics not because of any military priorities.


    1. .

      The point is that the US policy right now is hampered by political considerations just as it was hampered in Iraq II and Afghanistan. When you go to war the primary goal is to win it. The US is too afraid of stepping on toes. The problem in Iraq/Syria is that there are no good guys and you have toes in every direction you look.


  25. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:11:00 AM EST
    That you find the destruction of peoples lives and property so humorous, succinctly tells the tale of the Israeli.

    No it tells the tale of your misinformation, distortions and lies...

    1. Now if you were thrown off your 350 acres that you tell us you don't OWN but squat on?

      I would LAUGH...

    2. Don't squat on it, never owned it, and have moved on from that piece of real estate.
      It was a very profitable piece of consulting work.

      That you fellas continue to focus upon one, shall we say, insignificant ninety day project, more than humorous.

      “The truth may be out there, but the lies are inside your head.”
      ― Terry Pratchett

  26. .

    Adults, slowly and methodically, cleaning up the field.


    Right, as 1000 new IS foreign recruits join the fight each month.

    You boys are funny as hell.


    1. If there were that many, the key word would still be "Recruits."

    2. What do you want, Quirk (other than to bitch?)

      You seem to alternate between "don't get involved," and "Kill Everybody, NOW!"

    3. To much is not enough, for the Legionnaire Q.

    4. .

      I explained it before but you can't seem to get it through your head.

      I said we should have never gotten into the shithole that is Iraq/Syria.

      Now we are in it. There is no getting around it. That being the case, I say do as much as you can as fast as you can and get the fuck out as soon as possible.

      Right now, we are playing games there. We have no strategy that I can see. We are being whipsawed by political considerations.


    5. But the US is involved. There you have it, reality biting you on the ass, again..

      There is a strategy, you cannot 'see' it, because you are willfully blind to it.
      If you could 'see' it, you probably would not like it, because it involves US where you do not want to be.

      But does not mean that what you cannot see is not going to be effective.

    6. Sometime, probably, within the next couple of months, the Iraqis will attempt to take back Fallujah. Because it's next door to Baghdad, and because of the Dam, it's a priority mission.

      But first, they need to fight a few small battles to find out who Will (and Can) fight.

      They also need to reach a political understanding with the local Sunni Tribe that still controls a good chunk of the city. The Iraqi government doesn't want to end up in another fight with them.

      Meanwhile, we'll soften up the daesh a little bit with some selective bombing, so some reconnaissance, and be ready to go.

    7. .




      Those are the terms we always use after we leave. We are just smart enough to not fully define them until after we pull out. It's all part of the "Declare Victory and Leave" phenomenon. Wise up, rat. Whether we win, lose, or draw, we always 'win'.


    8. The fact is, Quirk, we are not "In It."

      We are 30,000 ft. Above it.

      Bombing selected targets at will.

      No One is being "whipsawed." Obama is bombing "what he wants, when he wants."

      The score so far is "Thousands to Zero."

      And, the Cost is Cheap.

      The phrase that comes to my mind is, "what's not to like?"

    9. .

      We are 30,000 ft. Above it.

      Yea, that's what those Canadian pilots said yesterday.


    10. Bush put 150,000 Troops in to Change a Regime.

      Obama's dropping a few bombs to help preserve a democratically elected regime.

    11. We are 30,000 ft. Above it.

      Bombing selected targets at will.

      From 30,000 feet how do you KNOW no civilians are being killed?

    12. Every ally has gone through the same learning curve. Australia, Denmark, Netherlands, France, Britain. All of them. It takes several missions to get the "sea legs," so to speak.

      I'm quite sure that our pilots return to base without dropping munitions Over 50% of the time.

      This Is Not Vietnam. We aren't dropping bombs to be dropping bombs. We're dropping bombs when we have daesh in our sights.

    13. .

      The longer the US is there just a trippin and a bombin when they feel like it the more chance they have of bumping up against Assad or encountering one of them unknown unknowns that can bite you in the butt and end up expanding this thing in a way we are all to familiar with.


    14. Yeah, that is always true.

      In Mississippi we call that "life."

  27. 1) The air power being used isn't going to do much against ISIS except around the edges
    2) Support the Kurds with weapons and perhaps some kind of defensive perimeter
    3) Other than that let the apes kill themselves
    4) Obama will throttle back after the elections
    5) Obama is the cause of all this in the first place

    Sound like my opinions? All have been expressed by at least three others here, except 5 which seems to be my own bugaboo.

    I agree with 1 through 5 and it's nice to see so many others agreeing with me on 1 through 4.

    Ash, as usual, doesn't seem to have any discernable opinion.

    Rufus talks of passing the popcorn and viewing it as a sporting event.

    Croc Shit dumps croc shit.

    Best posts so far: those of Miss T and WiO

  28. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:11:00 AM EST
    That you find the destruction of peoples lives and property so humorous, succinctly tells the tale of the Israeli.

    But Jack, you say it over and over again, like the BIG LIE....

    I am in Ohio and I am an American..

    What I would do to the palestinians? Is much closer to what America did to the Indians. What America did to the Germans and japanese.

    Purely American my thoughts on how to deal with Jihadists. The Israelis are much more compassionate than I...

  29. Rufus IISun Nov 02, 11:23:00 AM EST

    What do you want, Quirk (other than to bitch?)

    You seem to alternate between "don't get involved," and "Kill Everybody, NOW!"


    Those are the parameters alright.

    There are only three basic choices.....

    One fellow accuses another fellow of being an 'alternator'.......

    While both basically agree (I think) about 'doing something' around the edges.

    Everyone is intensely focused.

    Rufus has openly used the pass the popcorn image........

    This at least in up front...........

  30. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:24:00 AM EST
    Don't squat on it, never owned it, and have moved on from that piece of real estate.

    Duly noted, Jack Rat is on the RUN again.

    1. The good news? Blogger has his ISP, so IF Blogger as it, the NSA has it, if the NSA has it? :)

    2. No, back at the ranch.
      You ought to come on by, "Ordure.

      The flight from Tel Aviv can't be that expensive.

    3. I'll send one of the ranch hands to pick you up at the airport.

    4. What happened to your cattle, Croc Shit?

      Forced auction?

      Sheriff's Sale?

    5. You have 'moved on'?

      Have you been laid off, 'let go', fired again?

      >>>>Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:24:00 AM EST
      Don't squat on it, never owned it, and have moved on from that piece of real estate.<<<<

      Wait a minute, you said you owned it..........again and again

      It's all just croc shit.

      For all anyone knows he might be a cabby at the Phoenix airport.

    6. Rat used to brag about his "getaway" on an remote corner of HIS lands...


      He is on the run from the FEDS again...

    7. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:56:00 AM EST
      No, back at the ranch.
      You ought to come on by, "Ordure.

      The flight from Tel Aviv can't be that expensive.

      I can DRIVE it from ohio....

      AND I can carry concealed all the way there... :)

  31. There is a dispute about what may be the cause of all this.

    2) Religion/Culture

    I'd pick 2, viewing it from the outside.

    There are those there fighting 'for the oil' but it is not important for us who 'own's' the oil.

    'We' will 'own' it eventually, as it must be sold to have any value.

    We being the rest of the world.

    Meanwhile Obama continues to be an idiot on energy supplies here in USA still refusing to approve the Canadian/USA pipeline.

    1. The oil is still making its way to market and the US is respecting the property rights of the land owners on the proposed route.
      The US is protecting the aquifer, only a fool could not see that.

      Oh, wait, we are talking abut Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, that explains why he cannot see it.

    2. "The oil is still making its way to market . . . "

      An almost entirely overlooked fact.

  32. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 11:18:00 AM EST
    When the "Squatter Settlers" are removed from their 'Jewish' communities, you will be reminded of that.

    Jews, for the sake of peace, removed Jewish communities from Gaza and the West bank.

    ANd Israel routinely REMOVES illegal structures built by Jews in Israel.

    Israeli trailers removed from Palestinian property near Bethlehem

    BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- Four Israeli trailers were removed from a Palestinian man's privately owned land in a Bethlehem-area village on Thursday, a popular committee spokesman said.

    Ahmad Salah, a spokesman for a local popular committee, told Ma'an that Muhammad Abdullah Sbeih had received an Israeli court ruling that the trailers -- planted by an Israeli man who runs a nearby settler outpost -- must be removed from his land in the village of al-Khadr.

    The trailers were installed by settlers four years ago in Sbeih's field in the Ein al-Qassis area, Salah said.

    Sbeih had received an earlier ruling from an Israeli court that the trailers must be removed, but the settlers had refused to implement the decision, Salah said.

    Notice there are no riots, no murders when Jews are found in the wrong by the courts and the police enforce the law....

    Sorry Rat....

    you missed again...


    1. Now it's funny in the USA, where I live, the government can eminent domain lands...

      happens all the time...

    2. And the property owners are paid.
      That does not happen in Occupied Palestine.

    3. Property owners WERE Paid...

      The Ottomans....

      The Arab squatters were NEVER the land owners...

      You do lack a knowledge of history.

  33. But in our camp, his story was everyone’s story,
    a single tale of dispossession,
    of being stripped to the bones of one’s humanity,
    of being dumped like rubbish into refugee camps unfit for rats.

    Of being left without rights, home, or nation
    while the world turned its back to watch or cheer the
    jubilation of the usurpers proclaiming a new state they called Israel.

    ― Susan Abulhawa, Mornings in Jenin

  34. The oil will always 'make its way to the market'.

    Where in the hell else is it going to go?

    The Canadians are now considering a pipeline to both their east and west coasts, as Obama is an idiot.

    This is called oil 'making its way to the market'.

    1. It's not Obama that is the idiot.

      Canada produces more oil than it consumes, thus, the exports to the U.S.

      It doesn't matter if they ship it down from "here," or "there," the destination is the same.

  35. I think Croc Shit is a cabby at the Phoenix airport.

    He don't know nothing about cattle.

    1. He may even be a Moslem cabby, with his love of the Gazans.

  36. He isn't Jewish, that's for sure.

    1. You're right, Anonymous, "O"rdure is not Jewish.
      He is an Ashkenazi, with no genetic link to the People of Moses.

      Just another European, albeit influenced by the High Priests of Babylon.

    2. Babylon, where the Priests that "O"rdure follows wrote their book, the Talmud.
      The book that refutes and denies the Books authored by Moses.

    3. You are a 'nutz' moslem cabby at the Phoenix airport.

      The evidence is in, has been weighed and the issue decided.

      There isn't anything wrong with being a moslem cabby at the Phoenix airport.

      Since you are so obviously 'nutz' you should get some help though.

      You were never a cattle rancher.

      You were never in publishing.

  37. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 12:27:00 PM EST
    Babylon, where the Priests that "O"rdure follows wrote their book, the Talmud.
    The book that refutes and denies the Books authored by Moses.


    Getting more and more crazy by the day...

    Thanks for the laugh. Hard to take anything you say seriously anymore...

    Cu Cu for cocoa puffs you are..

    1. "O"rdure and the priestly boys of Babylon...

      They are a Team.

    2. The Jews of Bavel, were liberated by the King of Persia. Cyrus. WHO set them free and PAID for the Temple in Jerusalem to be rebuilt.

      Cyrus made it clear, Jerusalem and Israel were the eternal property of the Jewish People and he put his money where his mouth was..

  38. the Talmud teaches that
    "unnatural intercourse does not cause a woman to be forbidden to marry a High Priest,"
    since then "you will find no woman eligible … ."
    ... from the Talmud book of Yebamoth, Folios 59a-59b)

    Rulings of the "sages" follow:
    "A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a priest — even a High Priest."

    Unless specifically warned in advance and the act seen by two witnesses, she is acceptable also. If she had intercourse with a dog while sweeping the floor, she is likewise reckoned to be pure, and suitable. For,

    "The result of such intercourse being regarded as a mere wound, and the opinion that does not regard an accidentally injured hymen as a disqualification does not regard such as intercourse either."

    While Moses wrote ... in Leviticus ...
    ... And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    1. Ah, back to the nonsense...

      Got a break from your Taxi?

    2. Now "O"rdure will run off and find a 'desk co-ordinator' to find out how to reconcile the Talmud and the Torah.

      How in the Torah the 'Law' is quite clear ... and the Talmud rejects it.
      Substituting pagan sensibilities for the 'Word'

    3. Your understand of "what" Torah is is amusing...

      Your obvious lack of knowledge speaks volumes...

      Keep making a fool of your self, it's entertaining.

    4. BTW, 4 minutes

      No time to consult anyone.

      But I will say?

      Your rantings prove that you hate Jews, Israel, Judaism and Zionism and are an enemy of all.

      Your honest hatred is refreshing.

  39. STANFORD, Calif. (AP) -- Top medical experts studying the spread of Ebola say the public should expect more cases to emerge in the United States by year's end as infected people arrive here from West Africa, including American doctors and nurses returning from the hot zone and people fleeing from the deadly disease.

    But how many cases?

    No one knows for sure how many infections will emerge in the U.S. or anywhere else, but scientists have made educated guesses based on data models that weigh hundreds of variables, including daily new infections in West Africa, airline traffic worldwide and transmission possibilities.

    This week, several top infectious disease experts ran simulations for The Associated Press that predicted as few as one or two additional infections by the end of 2014 to a worst-case scenario of 130.

    1. Run-a-way, run-a-way from the Word.
      Going back to Babylon, the destination of our little "O"rdure.

      Since he can't get a visa for the US.

    2. Since he can't get a visa for the US.

      You just love to lie?

      Ask Deuce, you know the answer, you used to taunt and tease about me being here in Ohio....

      My IP has been confirmed by Deuce and he aint no fan of mine...

      So why LIE?

      I can't get a visa for the USA is technically as I am a citizen LIVING in America.

      your a twit

    3. Croc 'Cabby' Shit is on the No Fly List.

      This is comforting.

    4. I’ll confirm two things: Wio blogs from an IP address in Ohio and DR is what he says he is.

    5. Anyone who knows can tell you how easy it is to 'forward' an IP address.

    6. .

      I’ll confirm two things: Wio blogs from an IP address in Ohio and DR is what he says he is.

      How will you do that? I'm interested.

      As I recall Melody had tried to see rat when she was travelling his way and he had up and disappeared only to resurface here a while later.



  40. GOP up 104,000 in CO early voting
    posted at 2:31 pm on November 1, 2014 by Ed Morrissey

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    When Democrats pushed through mail-in voting for Colorado, Republicans objected over the potential for vote fraud. So far, though, the GOP has become its biggest beneficiary. Late yesterday, a report from the Secretary of State showed Republicans with a 104,000-ballot lead, giving them a nine-point edge in early voting:

    Republicans are blowing out Democrats in Colorado early voting, the secretary of State there says. …

    The AP said that 41 percent of the 1.1 million early ballots were from Republicans, with roughly a third coming from Democrats and a quarter from independent voters. Colorado’s voters are basically evenly split among the three groups.

    The AP further noted that the GOP has had good penetration into traditionally Democratic demographics — even among younger voters:

    More than 60 percent of those whose votes have been sent are 55 or older, a segment that grew from 45 percent in the midterm election in 2010.

    Democrats have been trying to turn out voters who usually skip lower-interest midterms. But it’s Republicans who normally miss those elections who are voting in greater numbers this year.

    The GOP even leads Democrats among voters 18 to 25, a group that has been the backbone of Democrats’ dominance over the past decade in Colorado.............

    Some are even starting to call this the "Rejection Election".

    I don't know.......I'm nearly always wrong........but it does seem to me mail in voting might not be so great for the democrats......aren't all these Republicans often thought to be lazy old folks.......what can be easier than to mail in your vote?

    1. Latest NBC poll gives Perdue 4 point lead over Nunn in Georgia November 2, 2014 Not in the bag by any means. More

      See American Thnker :

      November 2, 2014
      Latest NBC poll gives Perdue 4 point lead over Nunn in Georgia
      By Rick Moran

      NBC has released a slew of Senate polls that contains very good news for Republicans.

      Kentucky: Mitch McConnell seems to be pulling away in the final days. The poll gives the Senate minority leader a 9 point edge over his Democratic challenger Allison Lundergan Grimes. McConnell has increased his lead over the last 10 days and it appears that this race is effectively over.

      Georgia: Businessman David Perdue has jumped to a 4 point lead over Democrat Michelle Nunn. This is barely outside the magin of error and likely means that neither candidate will get 50% of the vote. This will lead to a runoff that Perdue leads by 3 points, according to the poll.


      In a three way contest, incumbent Democrat Sen. Mary Landrieu gets 44 percent, while Republican Rep. Bill Cassidy gets 36 percent and Tea Party ally Rob Maness gets 15 percent.

      In head-to-head matchups pitting Landrieu against either GOP candidate, both Cassidy and Maness receive 50 percent support, while Landrieu performs almost identically against either Republican – at 45 and 46 percent, respectively.

      Partly because he’s less well known in the state, Cassidy enjoys a better favorable rating (45 percent favorable/ 41 percent unfavorable) than Landrieu (44 percent favorable / 50 percent unfavorable). Landrieu was first elected in 1996 and has survived two competitive elections since.

      With Joni Ernst leading in Iowa, Republicans may not need that Louisiana seat to reach a majority.

      Republicans can afford to lose either Georgia or Kansas - not both. They appear to have 4 Democratic seats locked up in ND, WV, AR, and MT. Races in CO and IA are looking very good. But GOP held seats in GA and KS are still in doubt. With a net of 6 seats needed for GOP control, if they lose both states, they will have to win some other close race like NH - a very iffy proposition.

      It's looking good but not in the bag by any means.

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  41. Do names count in votes?

    All other things being exactly equal, would you vote for or against:

    Allison Lundergan Grimes


    LUNDERGAN Grimes

    Lundergan GRIMES


    Hell, given the choice, I'd vote for QUIRK, if I had no other choice.

  42. Rufus, you're into politics.

    Any idea what is going to happen in these Senate races?

    I'm wary about making a prediction........having learned from past experience I always predict my own desires......

    I think these Senate races are fascinating though.......Iowa especially.......

    1. I really hope Joni Ernst wins.

      She deserves it.

      Farm girl

      National Guard

      Served in Iraq

      State Legislature

      >>>Ernst is the daughter of Richard and Marilyn Culver.[2] Born and raised in Montgomery County, Iowa, she was valedictorian of her class at Stanton High School.[3] Ernst earned a Bachelor of Science degree from Iowa State University and a Master of Public Administration degree from Columbus College.[3][4] While in college, Ernst took part in an agricultural exchange to the Soviet Union.[5]<<<<

      She's from 'the heart of the people' if anyone is........

    2. Besides, her name isn't:

      Allison Lundergan Grimes


  43. What is "Occupation"Sun Nov 02, 09:57:00 AM EST
    there is NO Palestine. They arabs that call themselves that do not have a government of any quality, they do not control their natural resources or their borders (there are no borders) as you love to point out.

    There are no borders because there has been no agreement between the parties.

  44. Jack HawkinsSun Nov 02, 12:21:00 PM EST
    You're right, Anonymous, "O"rdure is not Jewish.
    He is an Ashkenazi, with no genetic link to the People of Moses.

    Just another European, albeit influenced by the High Priests of Babylon.

    When Jack's father was murdering Jews for hitler we were Jewish enough for him...


    We are not to be considered Jews...

    Just 2500 years of fake people....

    oh wait...


    so those Bavel Jews are frauds?

    when the went to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple were they still frauds?

    inquiring minds what to know more

  45. Lunderson wouldn't be so bad, but Lundergan Grimes?

    What are the democrats thinking these days?

  46. to the nonsense that there was or is no Palestine:

    Timeline of the name "Palestine"
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    (Redirected from Timeline of the name Palestine)

    This article presents a list of notable historical references to the name Palestine, and cognates such as "Filastin" and "Palaestina", throughout the history of the region.

    The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,[1][2] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset's Statue. The Assyrians called the same region "Palashtu" or "Pilistu", beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to an Esarhaddon treaty more than a century later.[3][4] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.[5]

    The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[6][7] when Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[6][8][9][10][11][12] Approximately a century later, Aristotle used a similar definition for the region in Meteorology, in which he included the Dead Sea.[13] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the term to refer to the same region, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[14] Other writers, such as Strabo, referred to the region as Coele-Syria ("all Syria") around 10-20 CE.[15][16] The term was first used to denote an official province in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and the Paralia to form "Syria Palaestina". There is circumstantial evidence linking Hadrian with the name change,[15] but the precise date is not certain[15] and the assertion of some scholars that the name change was intended "to complete the dissociation with Judaea"[17][18] is disputed.[6]

    The term is generally accepted to be a translation of the Biblical name Peleshet (פלשת Pəlésheth, usually transliterated as Philistia). The term and its derivates are used more than 250 times in Masoretic-derived versions of the Hebrew Bible,[19] of which 10 uses are in the Torah, with undefined boundaries, and almost 200 of the remaining references are in the Book of Judges and the Books of Samuel.[3][14][20] The term is rarely used in the Septuagint, who used a transliteration Land of Phylistieim (Γη των Φυλιστιειμ) different from the contemporary Greek place name Palaistínē (Παλαιστίνη).[6] The Septuagint instead used the term "allophuloi" (Αλλόφυλοι, "other nations") throughout the Books of Judges and Samuel,[21][22] such that the term "Philistines" has been interpreted to mean "non-Israelites of the Promised Land" when used in the context of Samson, Saul and David,[23] and Rabbinic sources explain that these peoples were different from the Philistines of the Book of Genesis.[21]



    1. {...}

      During the Byzantine period, the region of Palestine within Syria Palaestina was subdivided into Palaestina Prima and Secunda,[24] and an area of land including the Negev and Sinai became Palaestina Salutaris.[24] Following the Muslim conquest, place names that were in use by the Byzantine administration generally continued to be used in Arabic.[3][25] The use of the name "Palestine" became common in Early Modern English,[26] was used in English and Arabic during the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem and was revived as an official place name with the British Mandate for Palestine.

    2. There were no arabs that considered Palestine a nation or an arab people until 1966

    3. The native people of lands of lands of Palestine were the Jews up until 1966 when Yasser Arafat ( the egyptian) working with the Egyptian's version of their CIA created a new "front" for the destruction of the State of Israel.

      There were NO arabs living in the lands until 640 CE a mere 1400 years ago when the Kurd Saladin conquered the land for Islam.

    4. Assholes, basically, with too much time on their hands.

      That is who they are.

      See:Martha Gellhorn

      The Arabs of Palestine

      It's always the same......

    5. the arabs are people who conquered the middle east in 640ce,

      the children of Ishmael.

      Born from the womb of the servant Hagar.

      if there are 2 peoples? arabs and jews

      then why do arabs get 899/900th of the lands?

      why do the jews get 1/900th?

  47. Meanwhile, in overseas news, the Republican International "War On Women" from niece......

    >>>I am doing great.. This week was crazy due to seminars, but I got to sleep
    today. I have also joined German course at the community college here,
    which eats up any spare time of me. How about you? When are you free? Lets
    talk. I will call that bank person tomorrow. :) How is everything there?<<<

    "which eats up any spare time of me"


  48. You can understand that the Palestinians wonder about the recent European arrivals that come from the lands between the ever changing borders of Russia, Lithuania, Poland, Sweden, Austria, Prussia, Hungary and the Holy Roman Empire. From one of those vexing postal codes comes the word of brazen arrogance: “chutzpah”.

    1. You can understand how the Jews that lived in the land for thousands of years wonder about the recent arab arrivals seeking jobs from the Jews after the Ottomans were tossed out..

      You always fail to mention the 850,000 Jews from the arab conquered and occupied lands of the middle driven to Israel by the arabs seeking to make their lands Jew free...

    2. I often wonder about the arabs of europe and America that come to europe and America that seek to change the land into Islamic lands..

      How dare they leave arabia, yemen, sudan and pakistan...

    3. it's on old but true fact.

      the arabs hold 899/900th of the middle east.

      israel sits on 1/900th

      why are the arabs such greedy pricks?

    4. arabs came in in 640 ce, raping and looting all the way from arabia...

      Jews still lived there for 2 thousand years BEFORE the arabs crawled out of Arabia....

      Fast forward?

      After the Brits kicked the asses of the Ottomans, who had kicked the asses of the arabs...

      The arabs sided with the Nazis.

      Guess what?

      the nazis and the arabs LOST....

      Given an opportunity for a state, the arabs of the land of palestine turned down statehood several times...

      You can't rewrite history, the arabs that call themselves "palestinians" since 1966 have rejected a state over and over and you cannot turn back time.

      What was offered in 1948? poof gone...

      offered in 1985? gone...

      offered in 2001 gone...

      it's 2014...

      if the palestinians don't change their behavior?

      they will be gone soon enough themselves by their own hands.

    5. That's what Henry Kissinger said about Israel
      T minus eight years ... and counting.

    6. Last I check Kissinger has not been in public office since Nixon.

    7. In 1973, Kissinger did not feel that pressing the Soviet Union concerning the plight of Jews being persecuted there was in the interest of U.S. foreign policy. In conversation with Nixon shortly after a meeting with Golda Meir on March 1, 1973, Kissinger stated, "The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not an objective of American foreign policy, and if they put Jews into gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is not an American concern. Maybe a humanitarian concern.

    8. What difference does that make?

      The power is not in the government.
      But by those that own the politicians.

      Mr Kissinger was never a politician, but an agent of the owners.

    9. But with those that own the politicians.

    10. Christopher Hitchens, the British-American journalist and author, was highly critical of Kissinger, authoring The Trial of Henry Kissinger, in which Hitchens called for the prosecution of Kissinger "for war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offenses against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture"

    11. George W. Bush was going to have him chair the investigation into the 11SEP2001 raids on the US ...
      Then he was informed tht he'd have to make his client list public, to avoid an appearance of "Conflict of Interest

      He decided not to take part in the proceedings.

    12. yep, that is true, to many arab connections..

      that's why he is YOUR man

    13. Israel IS.

      Palestine is still born.

      Hamas is ISIS

      And you are a taxi driver at the Phoenix Airport and your real name is Mohammed.

    14. ISIS is ISrael

      You told us all you knew my name and address.

      Now it seems you are confused.
      As I've said, more than once, you are a lying little piece, "O"rdure.

    15. .

      Israel was born about 65 years ago. Why aren't the Jews satisfied with that simple fact? If they want to continue the myth that the area called Palestine was promised to them by God and has always been occupied by Jews and that it is therefore there 'historic homeland', fine. But why spread that fairy tale here where no one but Bob buys it?

      Simply looking a the timeline of history of the area

      will show it has been occupied by humans for 200,000 years, that it was occupied by hunter gatherers for 10-15,0000 years, that Jerusalem was a city for a 1000 years before the Jews conquered it. If you look at the timeline you will see how amazingly small was the total number of years the Jews actually ruled sections of Palestine as an actual independent state rather than as a colony of some greater power or not at all. In the total time since the Jews first arrived they had one brief moment of glory and then it was gone.

      Now, they can say "We're back'. Enjoy it.


  49. Along this line of thought I might suggest we all have 'too much spare time of me'.

    Think of what Quirk, for instance, could do with his 'too much spare time of me'.

    It would be awesome, world shaking.........fearsome........unimaginable...........

    Instead of walking the dog down to the fire hydrant......

  50. Hamas running out of candy for victory celebrations....

    Gaza cut off from the world as Israel, Egypt close border crossings
    Kerem Shalom, Erez crossings closed following rocket fire at Israel; Egypt speeds up project to create buffer zone on Gaza border after satellite images show hundreds of smuggling tunnels remain

    According to the Arabic Sky News channel, the evacuation of the border area to create a buffer zone was sped up after satellite images showed hundreds of tunnels remaining in the area, even after an intense Egyptian campaign to eliminate them.

    He once again claimed that "the treacherous terrorist operations which we have been witnessing, such as the latest operation that has targeted Karam Al-Kawadis checkpoint, have been backed from abroad," and that the Egyptian army has already managed to kill several terrorists involved in these attacks.

    While the Egyptian army has managed to destroy 1,500 smuggling tunnels, satellite images exposed hundreds of additional tunnels - some in Rafah mosques, bedrooms and shops.

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    1. Jews are an ancient people, We are Israel and Israel is ours.

      Don't like it?

      No one cares what a Taxi cab driver from north africa thinks...

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