“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Wednesday, April 24, 2013

The Neocon Legacy in Iraq: A 2011 estimate reported that there were 4.5 millions Iraqi orphans, 70 percent of whom lost their parents after the US and UK 2003 invasion.

The Psychological Impact of the Iraq War
Posted By Orkideh Behrouzan 
Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - 2:57 PM 

Anniversaries of invasions, occupations, and cease-fires are reminders that wars never end. The 10th anniversary of the U.S. led-invasion of Iraq prompted discussions about the damage that long-term occupation and violent conflict cause. Yet with few exceptions, these debates lack a willingness to engage with the psychological afterlife of wars for Iraqi civilians or recognition of international responsibility toward the psychological burden that awaits Iraqi society. When the subject of mental health is part of the debate, it is mostly from the military perspective: the mental wellbeing of veterans and soldiers has been a focus of media, academic, and governmental attention, whether noting increases in violent behavior among soldiers or rising rates of suicide (with 349 active member suicides in 2012, a 16 percent increase since 2011), depression, and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). But, as with estimates of more easily quantifiable physical casualties, journalists, researchers, and policymakers do not seem to have a reliable estimate of civilians' and displaced persons' psychological state. 
Understanding the psychological impact of war on civilians is important because wars change a society's relationship with the future. War conditions create memories and wounds that outlive the wars themselves. Their images and sounds persist in art, economics, politics, and private lives through multiple generations. They create corrosive memories that take decades to work through. But they also resonate, belatedly, in higher rates of physical and mental illness. They create social and psychological conditions that are often obscured in the way we write history. On the 10th anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, and as we find ourselves in a perpetual discussion of future military interventions, these are the kinds of wounds that should concern us all.
The problem with psychological afterlife of wars is that they fall through cracks of more pressing wartime concerns. It is only after the dust settles and physical wounds begin to heal that psychological ones surface in their entirety. It is in part due to this delay and temporal dissonance that raising the issue of long-term psychological aftermath of sustained and perpetual military interventions has sadly been sidelined in policymaking and analysis. But they shouldn't be, precisely because of their undeniable impact on the outcomes of both endeavors. These questions are at the core of what policy is meant to address.
In psychiatric terms, war memories are often measured by incidence of mental illnesses such as PTSD and depression (and via Western diagnostic standard manuals such as the DSM-IV). Translating what wars leave behind in collective memory onto the sanitized vocabulary of psychiatric diagnostics such as these reduces history to artifacts of clinical symptoms. The question that instead needs to be at the forefront of any discussion about military interventions is what it means for a "liberated" society, as well as for the global community in their relation to them, to live in conditions of constant rupture; to be "liberated" while experiencing enduring loss and grief caused by the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians and soldiers; or to be children growing up in exploded neighborhoods and looted houses, internalizing and suppressing wartime anxieties. Similarly, in our analysis of violence (as associated with PTSD), we need to foreground its complex moral trajectories and the psychological cycle of outrage that belies it. In evaluation of successes and failures, scholars and policymakers have a responsibility to recognize these intricacies, beyond logistics and statistics, and to resist the urge to reduce a people's wellbeing to the toppling of a regime.
Causing physical displacements, broken families, physical disability, and long-term psychological repercussions, wars shape individuals' experiences in ways that cannot be easily mapped onto convenient clinical diagnostics such as PTSD. Nor can these experiences be dismissed as mere matters of individual disorder. They embody explicitly collective experiences and therefore have a historical function.
To better understand the historical impact of these experiences, we need to remember lessons from past conflicts in the region. In neighboring Iran, over 20 years after the end of the Iran-Iraq War, different generations of civilians and veterans are suffering from internalized anxieties, nightmares, and memories that go beyond individual DSM-IV listed diagnoses. As with all wars, anxiety prevails during the struggle and contributes to both resilience and problems with demobilization and reintegration. Yet, wartime anxieties are often replaced with postwar dysphoria once there is time to reflect, and when lost promises of wars come to surface. In Iran, there are over 60,000 civilian victims of chemical warfare who continue to suffer from physical and psychological disorders. Moreover, a generation of children who grew up during war struggle with psychological and physical issues from birth defects to rising rates of suicide, drug abuse, and depression. This is not to depict a society devoid of hope, nor is it to attribute health issues to a single cause. The point is that these complexities integrate into collective memory, and weave into everyday relationships, generational identification, cultural forms, and expressions of nationalism. The speed with which the rest of the society -- and the world -- has moved on is not lost on the war-inflicted. Iranians collectively feel that the world turned a blind eye to the suffering of hundreds of thousands of people and the deaths of over a million people in both countries. They call for recognition of their struggles, and accountability for those responsible for them. To medicalize all of that (i.e., treating individuals for alleged depression or PTSD) is a double-edged act: providing individual relief (if it works), at once depoliticizes war memories that are, in their essence, socio-political phenomena. No pill can remedy inherited resentment. 
We could expect similar yet distinct trends in Iraq once new generations of war children become adults. The Iraq War, in its experience of suffering, represents less deviation than continuity. Prior to 2003, Iraqi society had already been in a state of intense infliction for decades due to the 1980 to 1988 Iran-Iraq War, the 1991 Gulf War, and the decade-plus sanctions. Since 2003, several studies have reported alarming mortality, disability, and displacement rates. A 2011 estimate reported that there were 4.5 millions Iraqi orphans, 70 percent of whom lost their parents after the 2003 invasion. That scenario alone constitutes a public health emergency, demanding provisions for long term physical and psychological care. A generational shift in the future of these children is possible, where wartime experiences will be worked into their future understandings of community, kinship, nationalism, and resilience. There will be distinct truth claims and demands for recognition of suffering. Attempting to normalize and medicalize the collective Iraqi experience of war leaves no room for a society's long-term struggle with memories of the war and emotions that they invoke.
At the most basic level, there is a pressing need to integrate psychiatric care into post-war plans, particularly now that Iraq's healthcare infrastructure is severely damaged and half of Iraqi doctors have left the country. Yet the question of mental health is not solely a question of individual treatment; the clinical apparatus of psychiatry cannot single-handedly respond to social discord brought on by war. To reduce the Iraqi experience to the convenient diagnosis of PTSD would not only be to erase the war and occupation's social and political afterlife, but it will also fail policymakers and health practitioners in their therapeutic aspirations.
Even if health policy insists on operating within a so-called PTSD framework, there is need for a broader understanding of its collective and generational manifestations. The PTSD paradigm in its clinical and therapeutic sense aspires to forget, to rid of excess and painful memory. Yet, we know from the many wars of the 20th century that collective post-war-psychologies are less concerned with forgetting and more reliant, even insistent, upon remembering. There needs to be room in post-war mental healthcare policymaking for remembering, as part of social and collective processes of healing. Health policymaking should invest in community building inside Iraq as well as in emigrant destination countries such as Jordan and Lebanon. Policy should also prioritize the reintegration and rehabilitation of displaced individuals, particularly women and children, who will be the carriers of the future burden of this war. Building on the capacities of an already powerful oral culture, scholars and policymakers need to facilitate alternative and bottom-up narratives of history, in part for their healing capacities, rather than erasing them. Instead of trivializing acts of witnessing (e.g., in art and literature), policymakers and practitioners should recognize and harness the relevance of these acts to mental healthcare policy. So too, historical accountability is a crucial element in collective conciliation and healing. In other words, post-war health policymaking cannot and should not operate without engaging in processes of remembrance, recognition, and accountability. Above all, international policymakers ought to make sure that they sustain their attention to the Iraqi people's psychological wellbeing beyond this moment.
The internalized, normalized, and assimilated memories of war will come back, belatedly, in pieces and bursts. Not only will they affect individual lives, but they will also shape how a society feels toward, holds accountable, and relates to the world around it. They write an alternative history of loss or neglect; they shape a society's sense of well-being, and can then translate to medical, political, and economic consequences. If the international policy community is concerned with the wellbeing of people, they must attend to internalized anxieties and memories of individuals in post-war societies, not just now, but for decades to come.
Dr. Orkideh Behrouzan is Assistant Professor of Medical Anthropology in the Department of Social Science, Health, and Medicine at King's College London. Contact her at


  1. Those Iraqi certainly have some challenges facing them.

    The governing elites in Iraq did not want US there. Which is understandable considering how much we did not help the people living there in the years we were in control of that country.

    Guess they're looking to the Iranians for assistance, now.

    1. I guess the Iraqi did not appreciate that the US and aQ both had developed a "fly paper" strategy, and that the US chose to engage aQ in Iraq, even though aQ had no presence in Iraq prior to the US invasion.

      Shit happens, aye.

    2. That's the key right there Rat, the "Governing Elites are a problem the world over.

      "...considering how much we did not help the people living there in the years we were in control of that country."

      It wasn't the coalition that tried to build water treatment plants, schools, repair infrastructure, put out the oil well fires?
      Damn, where did all that money go then?

    3. I suppose the answer is right there in front of me.
      The money went into the pockets of those liberty (cough) loving elite

    4. The US stepped in and tried to complete the giant "Socialist and Centrally Controlled" projects that Saddam had shovel ready or in the pipeline. Projects that any practicing capitalist could have told the Federal Socialists in charge of Iraq were bound to fail. And fail they did.

      Large amounts of the money were lost in the sand, some went to school books that were never read and pencils never sharpened.

      We have to assume much of the money got to the private bank accounts in Dubai and Switzerland.

      Good thing the US has a huge credit line, we can always borrow more so we can go on our next sandbox adventure, in Syria or Iran.

    5. Well, Dougman, those elites certainly love THEIR liberty.

    6. Syria, to be sure.
      Obama doesn't want to lose a chance to lead from behind.

  2. Here you go ...

    This is comical, recall that the FBI had interviewed the older brother ...

    The head of DHS says ...

    Proposed changes to the nation’s immigration laws would have made it easier to track one of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings before the attack, the nation’s homeland security chief said Tuesday.

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told the Senate Judiciary Committee that one of the two suspected bombers, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, initially escaped the notice of federal authorities on a six-month trip to Russia last year because his name was misspelled on his airline ticket.

    Babble and bullshit.
    Never let a crisis go to waste

  3. This is even better.

    The FAA has furloughed a few folk, planes are getting off a little late.

    Good deal, in and of itself.
    The Federals are cutting back in a real sense.

    Of course there are those that want the cuts, but elsewhere.

    “As a result of employee furloughs due to sequestration,” the Obama administration said in an FAA statement, more than 1,200 flights were delayed Monday because 1,500 air traffic controllers were off the job.

    The aviation system began to back up again shortly after daybreak Tuesday, with the first delays occurring at New York’s three airports and then spreading to the big hub airports in Dallas and Los Angeles, finally touching traffic into Dulles International and Reagan National airports.

    The FAA has estimated that a third of passengers will face delays during the furloughs, with up to 6,700 flights arriving late at more than a dozen major airports each day. The agency says furloughs are necessary to achieve $200 million of the $637 million in savings mandated this fiscal year to meet sequestration targets.

    Republicans and some Democrats challenged the way the White House has chosen to impose sequestration cuts by furloughing 10 percent of the 15,000 air traffic controllers for the rest of the fiscal year. The administration quietly held firm to the position that ending sequestration all together was the best resolution.

    “[Transportation] Secretary [Ray] LaHood indicated to me that he would like to be helpful,” said Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.). “His explanation to me is that they are not interested in short-term solutions, but long-term solutions.”

    Moran said reluctance to create a sequestration loophole to protect controllers “has led to the speculation of many that there is a political effort to try to demonstrate that . . . sequestration is something that is so painful that it can’t be accomplished without causing dramatic consequences.”

    No Pain, No Gain


    1. Why not set the FAA up as a Fee for Service agency?

      Let the airlines pay all the costs.
      They can then pass those costs on to the passengers.

      Why should the airline passengers be subsidized by those that stay home?

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    3. Why should the Federals borrow money to operate the air traffic control system, while the passengers fly at discounted rates?

    4. Early retirement for some of the air traffic conrtollers.

      Bring in new blood, at lower pay.

      Retirements by controllers hired in the early 1980s peaked in 2007, and the volume of air traffic itself peaked in 2000. But between 2010 and 2019 an additional 5,000 air-traffic controllers are projected to retire while air-traffic volume, which bottomed out in 2010, is expected to increase.

      If the FAA does not go fee for service, then we just may have to ration flight time.
      Not allow that pojected increase in traffic, for safety's sake.


    6. The TSA costs for securing the airports should be covered by the airlines and passengers, not the taxpayer.

    7. .

      While I agree in principle with what you are saying, rat, I have to disagree based on the reality.

      First, it would only mean that we were paying double for the services. I doubt if anyone would expect that the government would institute the fees and then concurrently lower taxes by the same amount.

      Secondly, it goes against the grain that we should have to pay for the bloated bureaucracy that is the TSA?


    8. .

      Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), chairman of the full committee, set the Republican tone with stinging opening remarks.

      “There has been a pattern of acquisitions of products that don’t work, warehouses filled with equipment that was bought and not used, contracts that promised to do one thing and a billion dollars later they don’t do what they claim to do,” he said.

      Issa did not blame TSA’s “hardworking men and women,” yet said the initials could stand for “thousands standing around.”


    9. There would be no cause to ;ower taxes, Q.
      The Federals would still be hundreds of billions in arrears.

      Services MUST be cut, while taxes remain constant.

      Or the nooks will never balance.

    10. .

      I have faint hopes that the nooks will balance in the forseeable future.


      Taxes are already rising and will continue

      As a result of those factors, revenues are projected to grow from 15.8 percent of GDP in 2012 to 19.1 percent of GDP in 2015—compared with an average of 17.9 percent of GDP over the past 40 years. Under current law, revenues will remain at roughly 19 percent of GDP from 2015 through 2023, CBO estimates.

      yet, under current law, Federal Debt will stay at historically high levels relative to GDP

      The federal budget deficit, which shrank as a percentage of GDP for the third year in a row in 2012, will fall again in 2013, if current laws remain the same. At an estimated $845 billion, the 2013 imbalance would be the first deficit in five years below $1 trillion; and at 5.3 percent of GDP, it would be only about half as large, relative to the size of the economy, as the deficit was in 2009. Nevertheless, if the laws that govern taxes and spending do not change, federal debt held by the public will reach 76 percent of GDP by the end of this fiscal year, the largest percentage since 1950.

      With revenues expected to rise more rapidly than spending in the next few years under current law, the deficit is projected to dip as low as 2.4 percent of GDP by 2015. In later years, however, projected deficits rise steadily, reaching almost 4 percent of GDP in 2023. For the 2014–2023 period, deficits in CBO’s baseline projections total $7.0 trillion. With such deficits, federal debt would remain above 73 percent of GDP—far higher than the 39 percent average seen over the past four decades. (As recently as the end of 2007, federal debt equaled just 36 percent of GDP.) Moreover, debt would be increasing relative to the size of the economy in the second half of the decade...

      [Those projections are not CBO’s predictions of future outcomes. As specified in law, CBO’s baseline projections are constructed under the assumption that current laws generally remain unchanged, so that they can serve as a benchmark against which potential changes in law can be measured]



  4. .

    Despite Iraq (and Libya for that matter), we still get this from the sheeple in speaking of the Syria rebels.

    Hardly friends but if they should prevails some goodwill could be useful.


    Plus they are suffering pretty awfully - have you no heart?

    What can one say?


    1. Those folks never had to pay the price, of US intervention.

      They've had "Guns & Butter" for so long, they do not even realize it is the root cause of their political discomforts.

      Those who are more concerned about the personalities, rather than the policies.

  5. As for Syria, I favor a no intervention policy.
    No aid for Assad
    No aid for the Muslim Brotherhood, under any of its' guises.

    But ...

    If the US does intervene, it should be with the smallest footprint possible.

    A no footprint intervention would be preferable to a small footprint intervention.

    While watching from the sidelines as others play on the field, would be best. US influence with the Brits, French, Saudi, Turks and Israeli will not be diminished if we just stand aside.

    1. If the US is going to supply anyone with aid, I'd let the Jordanians direct it, not the Turks.

  6. .

    Perhaps the FED needs more than just and audit.

    What happens if the FED's balance sheet goes negative? It doesn't.

    If (or when) this happens, what would it mean for the world’s principal central bank to have negative net worth? That is not clear — some people argue it would not matter as long as the Fed can keep printing currency. But the Fed obviously does not want to find out what the market, and political, reaction to such an outcome might be.

    Thus the Fed has fixed its accounting so that any net losses will not reduce its reported capital. If with capital of $55 billion, the Fed had realized net losses of $55 billion, you might think its capital had become zero, as it would for anyone else in the world. But not to worry: as far as Fed accounting goes, you would be wrong.

    The Fed controls its own accounting standards and, in 2011, changed its accounting so that even with a net loss of $55 billion, its capital would still be reported as $55 billion. If it lost $100 billion, its capital would still be $55 billion. If it lost $200 or $300 billion, its capital would still be $55 billion. Get it? Fortunately for the Fed, at the apex of the federal financial triangle, its own accounting policy has no pesky interference from say, the Securities and Exchange Commission...


    1. If the Congress refuses to audit the Federal Reserve then there is little chance for "more".

  7. If the government has to cut assistance to "Women and Infant Children" (WIC,) and Pre-School, the least we can do is ask the more well-off to stand a little inconvenience from time to time. Right?

  8. Many women have concluded it is easier to have babies than work. So the cycle continues.

    Even the Boston bombers were on welfare -

    The Blog
    Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Family Received Welfare
    6:54 AM, Apr 24, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev was on welfare, sponsored by tax payers. Tsarnaev, now dead, is suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon last week.

    "Marathon bombings mastermind Tamerlan Tsarnaev was living on taxpayer-funded state welfare benefits even as he was delving deep into the world of radical anti-American Islamism, the Herald has learned," reports the Boston Herald.

    "State officials confirmed last night that Tsarnaev, slain in a raging gun battle with police last Friday, was receiving benefits along with his wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, and their 3-year-old daughter. The state’s Executive Office of Health and Human Services said those benefits ended in 2012 when the couple stopped meeting income eligibility limits. Russell Tsarnaev’s attorney has claimed Katherine — who had converted to Islam — was working up to 80 hours a week as a home health aide while Tsarnaev stayed at home.

    "In addition, both of Tsarnaev’s parents received benefits, and accused brother bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan were recipients through their parents when they were younger, according to the state."

    Sure, make the 'more well off' pay for the Bombers, and women that would rather have babies than work.

    My wife did both, had babies, and worked, with other people's kids, too.

    I'm sick of this shit.

    1. For what it is worth, St.Paul said if you don't work, you don't eat. He sewed tents.

    2. Is this part of the Libertarian Platform, that some people should pay for other people's babies?

    3. Is it part of the "Libertarian Platform" that I should subsidize YOUR Plane Travel?

    4. Of course, part of my bloodline is from a civilized tribe (the Cherokee) that Never let children go hungry.

    5. I haven't been on an airplane in over thirty years.

      I imagine the Cherokee feed their kids well, with slave labor out in the corn fields.


  9. Russia contacted US government ‘multiple’ times
    By Bryan Bender and Noah Bierman
    | Globe Staff

    April 23, 2013

    WASHINGTON -- Russian authorities alerted the US government not once but ``multiple’’ times over their concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- including a second time nearly a year after he was first interviewed by FBI agents in Boston -- raising new questions about whether the FBI should have focused more attention on the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, according to US senators briefed on the probe Tuesday.

    The FBI has previously said it interviewed Tsarnaev in early 2011 after it was initially contacted by the Russians. After that review, the FBI has said, it determined he did not pose a threat.

    In a closed briefing on Tuesday, members of the Senate Intelligence Committee learned that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in ``multiple contacts’’ -- including ``at least once since October 2011,’’ said Richard Burr, a Republican of North Carolina, speaking with reporters afterward.

    Senators said the briefing also revealed failures among federal agencies to share vital information about Tsarnaev, indicating, they said, that the US government still has not established a strong system to ``connect the dots’’ about would-be terrorists residing in America more than a decade after 9/11.

    Probably spending all their time investigating Tea Party subversives and other serious threats to the Republic, like Republicans and Libertarians.

  10. Negative capability, or, How To Think Like Shakespeare, who seems to have known everyone in the world.

    What does it mean to think like Shakespeare? The poet and playwright was much more than just a clever wordsmith. Shakespeare has long been admired for his deeply sympathetic identification with all things human. The psychological portraits Shakespeare painted, with a masterful touch of disinterestedness, embraced amazingly disparate aspects of life. It was as if he had met every single person in the world, it has been said.

  11. Good news? Iranian Revolutionary Guard takes over -

    Who's The Boss?

    As the Western world tries to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, the IRGC is doing its best to ensure the opposite outcome.

    “This generation of revolutionary guards has very little respect for the U.S., particularly this president and this administration,” Alfoneh said. “Even worse, they misunderstand the signals President [Barack] Obama is sending to them.”

    The IRGC views Obama’s public overtures as a sign of weakness, Alfoneh explained.

    “President [George W.] Bush, he was a much better communicator” because he was firm and consistent, Alfoneh said. “In Washington, you do not understand the value of someone like President Bush.”

    But -

    This raises questions about what would happen should Khamenei and the IRGC find themselves at odds with one another.

    “We’ve now reached the point where sanctions are hurting the IRGC and even the smugglers are hurting from the sanctions to a greater extent,” Kagan said. “What would happen if any significant power bloc in the Islamic republic of Iran decided it wanted to cash in the nuke program or some part of it in exchange for easing of sanctions? … We’ve allowed ourselves to see simplicity where this is in fact a lot of complexity.”

    I doubt they will do that.


  12. April 24, 2013
    Tsarnaevs were on welfare until 2012
    Michael Geer

    I know you're as shocked as I am. Michael Patrick Leahy of the Boston Herald reports:

    On Tuesday, Massachusetts Health and Human Services spokesperson Alec Loftus confirmed to the Boston Herald that deceased Boston bombing 'Suspect 1' Tamerlan Tsarnaev received welfare benefits from the state until 2012:

    State officials confirmed last night that Tsarnaev, slain in a raging gun battle with police last Friday, was receiving benefits along with his wife, Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, and their 3-year-old daughter. The state's Executive Office of Health and Human Services said those benefits ended in 2012 when the couple stopped meeting income eligibility limits.

    But wait; there's more.

    So was the woman who married him, Katherine Russell. And their daughter. Although many of those benefits were stopped in 2012 when income eligibility limits were reached.

    But wait, wait, there's even more; both parents had received benefits. As well as Dzhokhar.

    Note the timeline in this Boston Herald article. Some benefits no longer paid, some ceased for other reasons.

    The $64,000 question remains. Where'd they get the money to finance their lives, travel, live in one of the most expensive places in America and get themselves weaponized.

    1. On the other hand -

      Tsarnaev brothers appeared to have scant finances

      If the brothers had outside financial or technical support for their deadly attack on the Marathon, it certainly isn’t reflected in their lifestyle or their weapons. The picture that is emerging is more like terrorism on a budget, consistent with reports that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told interrogators from his hospital bed that he and his brother acted alone.

      ‘I don’t think he ever brought any friends in here that spent more than $500.’

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      “There is no barrier here to two men doing this on their own,” said Brian Michael Jenkins, a Rand Corp. adviser who focuses on terrorism. “You could easily do this for under $100 per bomb. . . . This is an investment even someone with modest means can make.”

  13. If the wife was really working anywhere near 80 hrs week as a home health aide, in Massachusetts, they were making a fair living.

    1. Which would be why they were no longer on assistance.

      He'd become Mr Mom and it drove him over the edge.
      Ecempting how the trip to Russia would have played into the timeline.

      They'd have been on welfare when he traveled, but upon his return, she went to work while he bought a pressure cooker and fire crackers?

  14. To Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq
    House of Representatives
    YEA = 296
    Gary Ackerman, Rob Andrews, Jim Barcia, Ken Bentsen, Shelley Berkley, Howard Berman, Marion Berry, Sanford Bishop, Rod Blagojevich, Bob Borski, Leonard Boswell, Rick Boucher, Allen Boyd, Brad Carson, Bob Clement, Bud Cramer, Joseph Crowley, Jim Davis, Peter Deutsch, Norm Dicks, Cal Dooley, Chet Edwards, Eliot Engel, Bob Etheridge, Harold Ford, Martin Frost, Dick Gephardt, Bart Gordon, Gene Green, Ralph Hall, Jane Harman, Baron Hill, Joe Hoeffel, Tim Holden, Steny Hoyer, Steve Israel, William Jefferson, Chris John, Paul Kanjorski, Patrick Kennedy, Ron Kind, Nicholas Lampson, Tom Lantos, Nita Lowey, Ken Lucas, Bill Luther, Stephen Lynch, Carolyn Maloney, Edward Markey, Frank Mascara, Jim Matheson, Carolyn McCarthy, Mike McIntyre, Michael McNulty, Martin Meehan, Dennis Moore, John Murtha, Bill Pascrell, Collin Peterson, David Phelps, Earl Pomeroy, Tim Roemer, Mike Ross, Steven Rothman, Max Sandlin, Adam Schiff, Brad Sherman, Ronnie Shows, Ike Skelton, Adam Smith, John Spratt, Charles Stenholm, John Tanner, Ellen Tauscher, Gene Taylor, Karen Thurman, Jim Turner, Henry Waxman, Anthony Weiner, Robert Wexler, Al Wynn

    1. Please take credit when credit is due. The Neocons own it, lock, stock and barrel.

    2. That includes, Bush, Cheney and McCain.

    3. United States Senate
      Party Ayes Nays No Vote
      Republican 48 1 0
      Democratic 29 21 0
      Independent 0 1 0
      TOTALS 77 23 0

      29 of 50 Democratic senators (58%) voted for the resolution. Those voting against the Democratic majority include: Sens. Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA), Byrd (D-WV), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR).

      Looks like Hillary and Kerry are Neo-cons too, along with 27 other Democratic Senators.

    4. .

      No one said a neocon needed to be a Republican. The philosophy shares much with classical socialism. It buys into the concept of a muscular state and the philosophy of the golden mean which is of course determined by the elites who must use forceful persausion to bring the less enlightened many along.


    5. .

      Neocons are basically elitist, statist, and fascist.

      In my opinion, the follwoing article describes them perfectly.


    6. Everyone that came out against the war, after they were for it, were lied into going to war.
      Isn't that the loophole that gets the liberals off the hook with their constituents?

    7. the artilce says:

      My deepest fear is that the neoconservatives are preparing this nation philosophically for a soft, American-style fascism—a fascism purged of its ugliest features and gussied up for an American audience. This is a serious charge and not one I take lightly. The neocons are not fascists, but I do argue they share some common features with fascism.

      The neocons are not fascists,

  15. You merely listed the amen chorus.


  17. Our Sec of Defense Chuck Hagel, when Nebraska Republican U.S. senator , who was critical of the Bush administration’s adoption of neoconservative ideology, in his book America: Our Next Chapter wrote:

    So why did we invade Iraq? I believe it was the triumph of the so-called neo-conservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence that took America into this war of choice. . . . They obviously made a convincing case to a president with very limited national security and foreign policy experience, who keenly felt the burden of leading the nation in the wake of the deadliest terrorist attack ever on American soil.

    1. The result, amongst others are almost 3,000,000 Iraqi orphans caused by US operations in Iraq. That is one hell of an accomplishment. Forget the moral outrage, which is mostly missing, what will be the outcome over time?

  18. The social, health, economic, emotional and ultimately behavioral impact on this gross indignity to all human and family values is incalculable. It is the worst of all war crimes. The hideous theft of the normal lives of 3 million children because of stupid and cynical American politicians.

    1. How many orphans did Saddam create? Have you any idea? I don't know either, but over the years, plenty. He created plenty during the war with Iran. And when he invaded Kuwait. He created lots on a daily basis. He created a lot when he used his helicopters after the first Iraq War to put down the Shias in the south. He created lots of Kurdish orphans. He, at least, is not creating any more orphans. Left alone, he would be creating orphans to this day, I would imagine.

    2. You are seeking US equivalency with Saddam?

      That's your best rational?

      He could have been worse?
      We have spent a trillion dollars and that's the best you can do?

      All you can point to, what Mr Rumsfeld would call, an "Unknowable".

      What WAS the positive outcome of a trillion dollar investment in Iraq.
      Saddam was gone, at about the $100 billion mark.

      Explain the value the US obtained for the $900 billion balance.

    3. But you see, I've said it before maybe ten times. I wasn't 'for' the Iraq War. I just watched it.

      We had to go into Afghanistan.

      Just trying to put the orphan statistics in a little larger perspective.

      I'm not sure I even believe the statistics. An orphan has no parents at all. Many more men were killed than women. I don't think anyone has accurate statistics on orphans in Iraq.

    4. I do remember an Israeli general saying 'you may want Saddam back someday', which gave me pause about the whole proceeding.

  19. Replies
    1. Nonsense. Why do they hate the Hindus?

      They hate because that is the nature of their religion. They are instructed to do so.

      What indeed? Arabs gorge on hate, they roll in it, they breathe it. Jews top the hate list, but any foreigners are hateful enough. Arabs also hate each other, separately and, en masse. Their politicians change the direction of their hate as they would change their shirts. Their press is vulgarly base with hate-filled cartoons; their reporting describes whatever hate is now uppermost and convenient. Their radio is a long scream of hate, a call to hate. They teach their children hate in school. They must love the taste of hate; it is their daily bread. And what good has it done them?

      Martha Gellhorn's article from 1961. She was Hemingway's third wife, living abroad mostly, to save on the taxes. She wrote some really good stuff.

    2. Why would the Saudis hate us? The west, and the United States in particular, have made them rich beyond anyone else. I can't recall any American troops fighting in Saudi Arabia. Yet many hate us, because of their book.

      They hate everybody.

      It is what they do.

    3. Who is talking about the Jews, you shallow bigoted foolish twerp?

      These are children, Iraqi children orphaned by the most idiotic of all wars that devastated their young lives and will lead a small percentage of them to live a life of revenge, because they do have a reason to hate.

    4. I didn't mention the Jews.

      Gellhorn did mention them briefly.

      I think that is a good anti-paen to their hate that she has written there.

      I think she is right. Hate is what they do. They hate everyone. Of the conflicts in the world today, almost all involve the moslems. Against the Chinese, against us, against all of Europe, against the Russians, against each other, against Africans, against the Hindus, against Israel, against Canada, against Autralia. And anyone else they bump against.

      Instead of calling me a bigoted foolish tweerp, why not just go back to saying I am Calley supporter. I couldn't believe that one.

    5. I wasn’t talking to you. If you want me to start, let me know.

    6. I misunderstood. I apologize.

      No, I'd rather you don't talk to me.

      We see things too differently on this. Neither is going to change their views much.

  20. FYI: I vaporized the offending comment and sent it to the cyber trash heap. Put one more up like that and I will take down everything you put up.

    1. Free Speech, Don'tcha know?

      All else goes after that does.

      your kind have been there before.

      You must deserve it.

  21. What offending comment? I don't see anything of mine taken down.

    I don't believe I have made an offending comment.

    I can't recall mentioning the Jews myself.

    1. I misunderstood. I must have missed the comment entirely.

    2. This comment has been removed by the author.

  22. PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A Philadelphia abortion provider won't testify or call witnesses at his capital murder trial, leaving jurors to weigh five weeks of prosecution evidence.

  23. CAIRO—The Obama administration won't let close allies' assessments of Syrian chemical-weapons use determine its policy and will instead reach its own conclusions, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said, parrying pressure on the U.S.

  24. (Reuters) - Libya's central government has long had only a tenuous grip on the eastern city of Benghazi, but the bombing of the French embassy in Tripoli shows its control of the capital may now also be under threat.

    The early morning car bomb devastated France's embassy, wounding two French guards, in the most significant attack against foreign interests in Libya since September's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.


  25. Neocons are basically elitist, statist, and fascist.

    Well that excludes me then. I hang out with my rich friends like Dale who used to live in the old converted Ho-Hum Motel, one room and a bathroom, and Umatilla Jack, who lives in a camper in the back yard of his only surviving son's house.

    And I am anything but a statist. The government that governs least, governs best.

    So, I conclude, whatever I am, it is not a fascist.

    Kerry and Clinton and Obama fit the definition much better than I.

    1. So, I conclude, whatever I am, it is not a fascist, nor a Neo-con.

  26. Iraq has submerged into one of its bloodiest chapters with more than 100 dead in two days of violence across the ethnically divided state.

    On Wednesday, clashes erupted in North of the country when government forces clashed with Sunni protesters, following the deaths of at least 56 people at a protest camp near Kirkuk on Tuesday.

    “It reflects ongoing sectarian violence that was released in 2003 when we removed Saddam Hussein,” professor Lawrence Davidson, from Westchester University told RT.

    The army raided the camp in Hawija, where Sunni Muslims have have been gathering for month to protest what they see as their marginalization under the Shia-led Maliki government.

    Clashes followed and with them fears that ethnic violence could spread and return as a critical internal security issue as it was following the downfall of Saddam Hussein.

    On Wednesday, armed tribesmen cordoned the Sunni town of Qara Tappah. Fierce clashes erupted when Iraqi troops arrived to try to clear the makeshift roadblocks. Police say 15 gunmen and seven soldiers were killed.

    In the clashes, Sunni protesters took over an army base and torched a Shia mosque in Sulaiman Pek before army helicopters were deployed, resulting in the death of at least 18, including 10 protestors and five soldiers, officials announced. The fighters now control the town after government forces withdrew from the area, local administrative official responsible for the area told AFP.

    Roadside bombs and rocket-propelled grenades attacks on a military convoy near Tikrit killed three more soldiers.

    Furthermore, at least eight people were killed and 23 more injured from a car bomb explosion in Baghdad, according to the authorities.

    1. Thousands of Sunnis have been protesting since December over what they see as an effort by Prime Minister Nouri al - Maliki to keep them out of top positions in the government. They have also protested against tough anti-terrorism laws that they says discriminates against their religion.

      Under the legislature, government forces constantly carry out arrests in Sunni areas on charges of terrorism and ties to the deposed Baathist regime of Saddam Hussein.

      Professor Davidson blames the US forces for unleashing the ethnic unrest in the country.

      “Since 2003, thousands, tens of thousands people have died as a part of this sectarian violence. We (US) opened Pandora’s box and we could not close it even when we were there,” he argues.

      Prime Minister Maliki has offered some compromises to Sunni leaders, even to amend the anti-terrorism laws, but most Sunni tribal leaders say they will not be enough to appease their followers.

      “Maliki government’s reputation has already hit bottom. What we got is a government that is determined to maintain its position and crush opposition, particularly Sunni politicians,” Davidson says.

  27. I do not believe the numbers Deuce has presented on orphans in Iraq caused by the United States. The estimates are all over the place. His numbers are the higher end.

    In March 2012, Nael al-Musawi, the chairman of the Baghdad Provincial Council's social welfare committee reported on the Council's draft law to provide comprehensive care for orphaned children in Iraq. He stated that "there are around 100,000 orphans in Baghdad," noting that "this number differs from estimates made by some local civil society organisations, which claimed the number of orphaned children in Baghdad alone has surpassed one million." He also reported that the Council estimates "the overall number of orphans across Iraq to be no more than 400,000." A report from the United Nations in 2008 said that there was "around 870,000 children orphaned by the death of one or both parents in Iraq."[12]

    That is 1/10th of the estimate used by Deuce.

    Also, in my understanding, an orphan has no parents.

    A survey headed by UNICEF called the Multiple Indicator Cluster Survey 2011 (MICS4), published in December 2012, measured the prevalence of orphans in Iraq. The survey found that, "about five percent of children aged 0-17 years are orphans who have lost one or both parents, and about two percent are not living with a biological parent and 92 percent of children live with both parents." The highest proportion of orphans was found in the governorates of Diala, Baghdad and Al-Anbar. A report on the survey published by the BBC estimated that these rates correspond to a finding that "between 800,000 to a million Iraqi children have lost one or both of their parents." The survey was the largest ever conducted in Iraq, sampling 36,580 households.[13][14]

    There are dozens of articles.

    Many of the orphans were caused by Sunni and Shia death squads. You can blame that on the US if you want, or not, if you want.

    Inflating numbers to try to make a point is an easy thing to do.

  28. At least there is still one good Federal Judge out there -

    Federal judge: Obama/DHS can’t let DREAM-eligible illegals stay if the law says they should be deported
    posted at 8:01 pm on April 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

    But, as the article says, it is just a preliminary injunction, and there will be appeals, etc.

    Still......someone is thinking.....

  29. Bob Beckel on Fox just said we have about 75,000 muslim students here on student visas, and about 50,000 of them have disappeared from the schools, and we don't know where they are now. Surprisingly for Bob B. he is for ending student visas for muslims and Chinese too, who learn computer skills here, only to go home and hack us.

    This is sensible.

  30. NASA spent $1.8 billion to draw some lurid graffiti on Mars.
    Which means the Federals borrowed $600 million to do it.

    Where's the value in that?

    IT'S the most expensive robot in the world, but it seems the Mars Rover has the mind of an eight-year-old schoolboy.

    And like any bored schoolboy the $800 million machine is now passing the hours by drawing crude pictures of the male anatomy.

    A photo of Curiosity's track patterns has sent millions into a titter for its likeness to a penis.

    The photo went viral after it was posted on Reddit with the caption

    "Mars Rover = $800M, Team to Operate = $1B. Drawing a penis on the surface of another planet = Priceless.

    1. .

      ...the Mars Rover has the mind of an eight-year-old schoolboy.


      With every one built we contribute to the objective of raising the average mental age of the sheeple by 2 to 3 years. Reference Idaho farmers.


  31. What you see is what you are.

    Rorschach test

    The Rorschach test (German pronunciation: [ˈʁoːɐʃax]; also known as the Rorschach inkblot test, the Rorschach technique, or simply the inkblot test) is a psychological test in which subjects' perceptions of inkblots are recorded and then analyzed using psychological interpretation, complex algorithms, or both. Some psychologists use this test to examine a person's personality characteristics and emotional functioning. It has been employed to detect underlying thought disorder, especially in cases where patients are reluctant to describe their thinking processes openly.[3] The test is named after its creator, Swiss psychologist Hermann Rorschach.

    1. Give me a break:

      Everyone's known Cal-Tech is a haven for Pervs.

      My dad told me.

      He went there in 1919.

  32. Perverts:

    Interesting Details:

    Notable Alumni

    Caltech has over 20,000 living alumni, of whom 17 are Nobel Prize-winning scientists. The Institute has produced leaders in almost every field imaginable.

    Following is a brief sampling of notable former Techers.

    •Frank Borman, commanded the 1968 Apollo 8 Mission, the first team of astronauts to circle the moon
    •C. Gordon Fullerton, piloted the third space shuttle mission and orbited the earth in Skylab
    •Carolyn C. Porco, Imaging Team Leader for the Cassini-Huygens Mission and Director of the Cassini Imaging Central Laboratory for Operations, currently in orbit around Saturn
    •Allen E. Puckett, chairman emeritus, Hughes Aircraft Co.
    •Harrison Schmitt, Apollo 17 astronaut; former U.S. senator
    •Eugen Merle Shoemaker, co-discovered Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 (a comet which crashed into the planet Jupiter) and was the first person buried on the moon (by having his ashes crashed into the moon)
    •Ozires Silva, founded Embraer, a Brazilian aerospace conglomerate that produces commercial military, and executive aircraft. It is the world’s 3rd largest commercial aircraft company
    •David W. Thompson, chairman and chief executive officer of Orbital Sciences Corporation. One of America’s leading space-related R&D and manufacturing companies

    •Moshe Arens, Former Israeli minister of defense and foreign affairs
    •Arnold O. Beckman, Founder and chairman emeritus, Beckman Instruments
    •Sabeer Bhatia, Cofounded Hotmail, the first free web-based email service
    •Chester F. Carlson, Inventor of Xerography (photocopying)
    •James E. Hall, Founder and president, Jim Hall Racing
    •David Ho, Director, Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Center; 1996 Time magazine Man of the Year
    •York Liao, Co-founded Varitronix, one of the first manufactures of LCD. (Hong Kong)
    •Ruben F. Mettler, Retired chairman and CEO, TRW Inc
    •Cleve B. Moler, Cofounder, chairman, and chief scientist at MathWorks, which is responsible for MATLAB
    •Gordon E. Moore, Chairman emeritus and cofounder, Intel Corp.
    •Dominic P. Orr, President and CEO of Aruba Networks, the number two market leader in enterprise wireless LAN, behind only Cisco. The company pioneered the concept of central wireless LAN
    •Simon Ramo, Cofounder, TRW Inc.
    •Benjamin M. Rosen, Chairman of the board, Compaq Computer Corp.
    Warren G. Schlinger, Worked at Texaco, Inc., processing oil shales, desulfurization technology, and coal gasification technology. 65 patents •Charles R. Trimble, President of Trimble Navigation, Ltd. And one of the company’s four founders. Company has industry dominance in the manufacturing and application of the Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers, rangefinders, inertial navigation systems
    •Niniane Wang, Software engineer, and engineering manager for a “confidential project” for Google
    •Charles E. (Chuck) Wheatley III, Senior Vice President of Technology, QUALCOMM, Inc.
    •T. A. Wilson, chairman emeritus, Boeing Company
    •Dean E. Wooldridge, cofounder, TRW Inc.

    ...and a bunch more in govt and the "arts,"
    some of which may actually be pervs, you can check them out for yoself:

  33. These two in academe look likely to be worthy:

    •Ronald W. Davis, Director of the Genome Technology Center at Stanford University

    •Raymond L. Orbach, Director of the Energy Institute at the University of Texas at Austin

  34. ...of course would could go back to picking up horseshit from mainstreet.

    Who's to say?

  35. NEWS FLASH ALERT!!!!!!!!!!

    Physicists Confirm They Have Found And Killed The 'God Particle'

    1. Everybody else here has known that God has been DEAD

      since day one, loser!


    2. Basking in the miracle of being alive, once

      No thinking or reading necessary.

    3. That Iguana is a big, ugly, scaly fuck, basking or not.
      Aestheticaly, the dif between alive or dead, not all that much, in my view.

      Just this afternoon, I got to commune (no commune like an afternoon commune) with a cute little fresh green gecko-lizard w/white legs and red highlights sitting atop my pile of freshly washed, but not yet dried, T-Shirts.

      No big, no scales, no ugly fuck, all bright, fresh, green, white and red.
      ...and while he or she was on the shirts, she-it was reluctant to leave.
      Quite charming, really, but my time was limited.

      Once I got it off the T-Shirts, she-it became a little more alarmed on the slippery porcelaned slopes of the washer.

      All in all, however, it was a positive encounter.
      From my perspective, at least.
      She-it seemed less than alarmed.
      For all I know, I may have arroused her.
      ...but that's just me.

    4. My fresh, bright, shiney Gecko didn't have no GD watermarks on her, neither.

      I'm bettin Virgin, and it wouldn't be my first.

    5. Afternooners, those were the days.
      ...not to exclude nooners, straight up.

  36. •Carolyn C. Porco, Imaging Team Leader for the Cassini-Huygens Mission and Director of the Cassini Imaging Central Laboratory for Operations, currently in orbit around Saturn.


    Rings and things, sounds like girl stuff.

    Cal-Tech Fraternity Guys probly got some hot "imaging" of the brothers porking out on Porco.

    1. A book I read talked of CalTech guys in the seventies rating chicks on the "Millihelen Scale"

      "Check out that 9 Millihelen!"

      Something to do w/that Helen of Troy lady, I think.

      A pastime.
      ...for Caltech guys.


    1. Just sayin,

      Fair's fair,

      ...and everything else that used to be.

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