“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Pentagon computer system hacked. F-35 info stolen. Don't wait for the outrage.

Hackers steal JSF data from Pentagon computers
Published: Tuesday 21 April 2009 10:16 UTC
Last updated: Tuesday 21 April 2009 10:16 UTC Radio Netherlands

Hackers have stolen information on the Joint Strike Fighter from the Pentagon computer system. In The Wall Street Journal, US government officials say the computer system has been broken into several times in the last two years.

The hackers targeted companies involved in the development of the JSF. Although it is unclear what information was stolen, countries could use the information to improve their defences against the new fighter plane.

The JSF is America's most expensive defence project ever. The Netherlands is also considering buying the JSF to replace its F-16 fleet.


  1. You are right, duece, there is little outrage about folks taking US technology and selling it. No sense waitnig for it to come to a head

    May 28, 2008: American intelligence officials have confirmed what has long been suspected, that the new Chinese J-10 fighter was built using Israeli technology. Russian engineers also admitted that the J-10 had such technology. The J10 looks something like the American F-16, and weighs about the same (19 tons). Like the F-16 the J10 has only one engine. It's no accident that the J10 resembles the F-16, because Israel apparently sold them technology for their Lavi jet fighter. Israel had abandoned the Lavi project, because of the high cost and availability of cheaper alternatives (buying F-16s and F-15s from the United States.) But the Lavi was meant to be a super F-16, and incorporated a lot of design ideas from the F-16 (which the Israelis were very familiar with, as they used them, and had developed new components for them.) The Chinese denied any Israeli contribution, but Russian engineers say that China had one of the Lavi prototypes.

    There are the REAL allies, China & Israel. as mat boldly told US, back un the day.

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  3. Washington DC is further from Utah, than El Paso is, bob.

    Thousands of miles, not hundreds.

    You are dumber than a rock, sometimes, when you want to be.

  4. Dr...

    you sound more and more like pat buchanan every day...

    So now everytime something is stolen in the USA you will repost somehow the Jews of Israel did it 1st?

  5. You're dumber than a rock sometimes when you're trying hard not to be.:)

  6. Don't get mad at Rat. Get mad at the Hackers. They're the ones trying to put the Israelis out of business. Unless, of course, the Hackers ARE the Israelis.

  7. There are the REAL allies, China & Israel. We'll see but I doubt it.

  8. I'm not mad at Rat.

    Now Obama says he is open to prosecuting some of the Bush administration.

    Wasn't there a national security act passed right after 911, passed by both parties? Memory fades.

    Anyway it can't be good for the country to turn inward persecuting/prosecuting one another.

  9. Why would China want to be real allies with Israel?

    They've got no oil, it would tick the arabs off, it doesn't have the people to buy much in the way of Chinese goods. A temporary affair of convenience, maybe.

  10. Obama signs service bill, says volunteers neededCalling on Americans to volunteer, President Barack Obama signed a $5.7 billion national service bill Tuesday that triples the size of the AmeriCorps service program over the next eight years and expands ways for students to earn money for college.Good Luck with that...I don't know how he's going to pay for it. It will also be interesting to see how much these youth are paid for:

    mentoring children, cleaning up parks or buildings and weatherizing homes for the poor.

  11. Maybe the Chinese hacked it.

    Maybe, if we're lucky, and smart, we had put misinformation in the system.

  12. Countries don't have "allies." Sometimes, various countries' "Interests" converge.

    China wants to buy Defense "Secrets." Israel wants to sell any fucking thing they can get their hands on. Even if it ends up killing them in the end.

  13. Does waterboarding inflict pain?
    I know sounds stupid, but physical pain, like putting your hand on a red hot stove?

    Or is it just disorentating, uncomfortable in the extreme, panicky?

    It doesn't seem to have worked so well, if they were going back to the well, so to speak, a couple of hundred times.

    I was listening to a conversation maintaining it isn't torture, based on the above reasoning.

  14. bob, I think those numbers are wildly exaggerated.

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  16. "The service issued a "strategic communication hot topic" alert to its senior leaders two days before the Senate confirmed Mukasey, asking them to make sure every soldier, family member and Army civilian employee understands the ban on waterboarding. Mukasey was sworn in Nov. 9.

    "The U.S. Army strictly prohibits the use of waterboarding during intelligence investigations by any of its members. It is specifically prohibited by Field Manual 2-22.3 and is not a sanctioned interrogation technique in any training manual or any instructions to soldiers in the field," the statement says."

  17. I suspected this was coming:

    Obama open to torture memos probe, prosecutionWASHINGTON – Widening an explosive debate on torture, President Barack Obama on Tuesday opened the possibility of prosecution for Bush-era lawyers who authorized brutal interrogation of terror suspects and suggested Congress might order a full investigation.

    Less than a week after declaring it was time for the nation to move on rather than "laying blame for the past," Obama found himself describing what might be done next to investigate what he called the loss of "our moral bearings."

  18. There's no way to successfully prosecute attorney's for giving their opinion of Enhanced Interrogation Techniques. Good luck finding a precise, prosecutable definition of torture or "brutal interrogation."

    The Obama administration is throwing a bloody bone to the likes of Leahy, Conyers and the rest of the rabid left.

  19. And if they go too far down that road, they'll wind up once again leaving the country vulnerable to a 9-11 style attack. That could have some serious political repercussions.

  20. The president made clear that his preference would be not to revisit the era extensively.

    "As a general view, I do think we should be looking forward, not back," Obama said. "I do worry about this getting so politicized that we cannot function effectively and it hampers our ability to carry out critical national security operations."

    For more than a year, the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility has been reviewing the interrogation memos and whether the lawyers who drafted them complied with department standards. Spokesman Matt Miller said the agency had no comment "on the outcome of that review or on other possible investigations."
    Torture Prosecution

  21. They will shine the light on the activities of trish's Bob's. From the E4s that opened the cells all the way up to the Vice President.

    There may or may not be prosecutions resulting from the exposure, but exposure there will be.

    No one will get to hide in the shadows, well some will, but some of the others are going to be scorched.

    What Obama proved the other day, by the release of the memos, is that he does not care for the opinions of those past Directors of the CIA. He does not respect them, at all.

    As is his perogative.

  22. John"Maverick" McCaon, the Standard Bearer for the Republican Party left no doubt on the subject of qaterboarding.

    It is torture.

    No matter who had won the election, waterboarding would have be designated torture and both candidates vowed that the US does not torture.

    John McCain indicted the Bush Administration, just yesterday morning on FOX News

    One is too much.
    Waterboarding is torture, period.
    I can assure you that once enough physical pain is inflicted on someone, they will tell that interrogator whatever they think they want to hear. And most importantly, it serves as a great propaganda tool for those who recruit people to fight against us

    John McCain, the Republicans Republican

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  24. 98 A new BO-hating star is born – Glenn Beck, formerly of CNN, now of Fox, who can't make up his mind if BO is dragging the US towards the abyss of socialism or fascism. Since January, he has built an audience of 2.2 million regular viewers.

    99 Not a good number: 600,000 new jobless Americans each month since BO took office.

    100 So, the Republicans, are they thriving in opposition? Do they have a convincing challenger to Obama whose name is not Palin?
    100 Ways