“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” - George W. Bush

All The Best


I want to thank everyone who participated in the Elephant Bar over the past twelve years. We had millions of visitors from all around the World and you were part of it. Over the past dozen years, two or three times a night, I would open my laptop and some of you were always there. I will miss that.

My plans are to continue my work with technology and architecture. You know my interests and thoughts.

At times, things would get a little rough in the EB. To those of you that I may have offended over the years, I apologize. From all of you, I learned and grew.

An elephant never forgets.
Be well.

Deuce, 21 June 2018

Saturday, October 08, 2016

"It's come to this. Russia has to expose the corrupt Clinton/Obama regime. The American PRESS won't do it and 50% of the country is OK with corruption or are too dumb to understand what's going on. "


The most revealing Clinton campaign emails in WikiLeaks release

John Podesta is pictured. | Getty
The batch of emails provided a glimpse into the inner workings of the Hillary Clinton campaign. | Getty

The most revealing Clinton campaign emails in WikiLeaks release

The trove includes excerpts of Clinton’s paid Wall Street speeches that were deemed problematic.

WikiLeaks released a trove of emails apparently hacked from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman email account, unleashing thousands of messages that reveal for the first time excerpts of Clinton’s paid speeches — including those delivered before Wall Street — that were flagged as problematic or potentially damaging.
The late-Friday release came almost immediately after a devastating tape emerged of Donald Trump in 2005 talking about how being “a star” entitled him to make aggressive sexual advances on women, fueling speculation that WikiLeaks is trying to tip the balance of the election.

The batch of emails — which Wikileaks promised is the first of many more to come — provided a glimpse into the inner workings of the campaign, and offered telling details about Clinton’s views on trade and the middle class.
In one of the most notable exchanges, Clinton campaign research director Tony Carrk emails other members of the team on Jan. 25, 2016 to share excerpts of her paid speeches that could come back to bite the campaign.

“Attached are the flags from HRC’s paid speeches we have from HWA. I put some highlights below. There is a lot of policy positions that we should give an extra scrub with Policy,” Carrk writes.

The first excerpt highlighted — with the header *CLINTON ADMITS SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH* — is from a Goldman Sachs-Black Rock event in 2014 in which Clinton discusses her distance from middle-class Americans.

“My father loved to complain about big business and big government, but we had a solid middle class upbringing. We had good public schools. We had accessible health care. We had our little, you know, one-family house that, you know, he saved up his money, didn't believe in mortgages. So I lived that,” she said in the speech. “And now, obviously, I’m kind of far removed because the life I've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven't forgotten it.”

The speech excerpts also delve into her support for a Canadian-style universal health care system and offer revealing comments about trade, which could prove controversial after Clinton dragged her feet in voicing fierce opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal that progressives loathe.

Beyond those excerpts, the emails affirm the campaign’s reputation for extreme caution, with an eagerness to proactively influence news coverage. Whether it’s plotting the candidates’ response to an early attack on influence peddling at the Clinton Foundation or writing jokes for an Iowa dinner speech, ad hoc committees — often incorporating advice from Bill Clinton — are shown agonizing over wording and tone. Under fire, they’re determined “not to look beleaguered,” as one aide put it.

Clinton’s campaign would not confirm the authenticity of the emails — though it did not explicitly deny it either. Pedestal tweeted on Friday evening that he did not “have time to figure out which docs are real and which are faked.”

Clinton spokesman Glen Caplin said in an email that, “Earlier today the U.S. government removed any reasonable doubt that the Kremlin has weaponized WikiLeaks to meddle in our election and benefit Donald Trump’s candidacy.”
He added, “We are not going to confirm the authenticity of stolen documents released by Julian Assange who has made no secret of his desire to damage Hillary Clinton. Guccifer 2.0 has already proven the warnings of top national security officials that documents can be faked as part of a sophisticated Russian misinformation campaign.”

The Republican National Committee seized on the leaked excerpts, trying to drive a wedge between Clinton and former supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders, who had made his calls for her speech transcripts a centerpiece of his primary challenge.
“With today’s WikiLeaks revelations we are finding out who Hillary Clinton really is, and it’s not hard to see why she fought so hard to keep her transcripts of speeches to Wall Street banks paying her millions of dollars secret,” said RNC Chairman Reince Preibus in a statement. “The truth that has been exposed here is that the persona Hillary Clinton has adopted for her campaign is a complete and utter fraud. How can Bernie Sanders and many like-minded Democrats continue to support her candidacy in light of these revelations?”

Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon appeared to criticize the media for digging through the trove on Friday evening. “Striking how quickly concern abt Russia's masterminding of illegal hacks gave way to digging thru fruits of hack. Just like Russia wanted,” he wrote on Twitter.

Indeed, here are eight more e-mail exchanges that shed light on the methods and mindset of Clinton’s allies in Brooklyn and Washington: 

1) Clinton Foundation event at Goldman Sachs

In a May 2014 email, Clinton’s soon-to-be campaign manager Robby Mook called it “troubling” that Goldman Sachs had been selected to host an upcoming Clinton Foundation event. “I flagged for Tina and Cheryl as well but it’s a little troubling that Goldman Sachs was selected for the foundation event,” he wrote in an email to Podesta.

His comment was in reference to a New York Times story included in the email that described how “The most generous donors to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation will convene on June 6 at the Goldman Sachs.”

2) Clinton’s Keystone response

In August, 2015, senior aides to Hillary Clinton debated intensely how to react to the Obama administration’s decision to reject the Keystone Pipeline, which they had heard was imminent.

“I just wanted to try to politically get ahead of this and where we are on the issue if this in fact happens,” wrote Nikki Budzinski, Clinton’s labor outreach director. “The trades are also hearing that HRC will put out a statement stating that she encouraged Obama to take this position. Politically with the building trades, this would be a very dangerous posture.”

Podesta replied, “Your [sic] in trouble, girl. Seriously, doubt we’ll say we ‘encouraged’ but assume we'll support if it goes that way.”

The decision by the Obama administration was ultimately delayed, which aides presumed was to kick it past the Oct. 19 Canadian elections. Then, adviser Jake Sullivan suggested that she may simply reveal her opposition in response to a question.

3) Challenging Trey Gowdy

In March 2015, the Clinton campaign brass wondered whether they could recruit a friendly lawmaker to question House Benghazi investigators’ attempts to force Clinton to release her emails.

“Do we have some D who can squarely at Gowdy and demand he release all his emails for that last two years so people can see for themselves how politically motivated his investigations are?” wondered Clinton pollster Joel Benenson.
The problem? No one wanted to do it. They considered Elijah Cummings but then suggested they choose an “HRC Warrior,” as Podesta put it. “Who is her most fearsome House ally?” he wondered.

Look suggested Nita Lowey, Steve Israel or “SJL” – apparently Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas.

As it turned out, none of them seemed eager.

“After i suggested this earlier in the week i talked to few people on the Hill,” wrote Jim Margolis, another Clinton strategist. “The challenge is getting a member of congress to do it... because they think they will be called upon to make the same disclosure. I pointed out that they don't believe private emails should be made public, so there is no hypocrisy. But there is nervousness just the same.”
“Maybe a retiring senator like Mikulski. I’ll keep working it, too,” he said.

4) ‘Clinton Cash' rapid response

Clinton’s team scrambled in the spring of 2015 to reaction to allegations made about the Clinton Foundation in “Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich.” 
Emails show an elaborate response plan, even debuting a rapid-response website for grassroots supporters to get talking points.

“The biggest question for this group is if and how HRC engages on Clinton Cash this week and what are the ‘two lines’ she would deliver,” Jake Sullivan wrote on May 3 to 10 top aides, including Jennifer Palmieri, Robby Mook, Mandy Grunwald, Joel Benenson and Jim Margolis. Benenson responded with a few lines for Clinton to say about the foundation’s “life-saving work around the world.” 
“The notion that that anyone donating to the foundation was going to influence me in my job is absurd,” Benenson suggested Clinton say, to which Margolis suggested, adding “and never happened.”

Of the rapid-response website, Sullivan wrote, “John [Podesta] and I discussed yesterday and think it is important that supporters and press know that we will deal aggressively with unfair attacks, but our real focus and hers is her proactive vision. Important that we do not appear beleaguered.”

In April, the team looked for ways to have reporters thoroughly debunk “Clinton Cash” before its release. “Amy Chozick from the NYT called us to indicate she had obtained a copy of the book on her own and intends to file a separate story tomorrow. Her story will not unpack all of the book’s claims … she will do a more process-y story about the book's existence, the fact that the publisher has approached multiple media outlets in advance of the book's publication to spoon-feed them some of the book's research,” Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon wrote to other Clinton advisers.

He added, “We think this story, though it was not originated by us, could end up being somewhat helpful in casting the book’s author as having a conservative agenda.”

When the author, Peter Schweitzer, stumbled through an awkward interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos — himself a Clinton Foundation donor — the comms team took a victory lap as they sent around the transcript.

"[G]reat work everyone. this interview is perfect. he lands nothing and everything is refuted (mostly based on our work),” wrote spokesman Jesse Ferguson. 
“This is therapeutic to watch. George is cool as a cucumber, doesn’t rush into it, but just destroys him slowly but surely over the course of the interview,” chimes in Nick Merrill.

5) Joking about the Benghazi hearing

On Oct. 24, 2015, the Clinton team debated how sharp of a dig Clinton should take at Rep. Trey Gowdy after her marathon appearance before his committee investigating the Benghazi attack. As they discussed remarks she was set to deliver at the October Jefferson Jackson dinner the next night, Podesta had an idea for a joke. “I used to be obsessed with Donald Trump’s hair, that was until I got to spend 11 hours staring at the top of Trey Gowdy's head,” Podesta suggested inserting into the speech.

“I love the joke too but I think HRC should stay above the committee - and especially above personal insults about it. She’s got every inch of the high ground right now,” Jake Sullivan replied.

“Wow. You people are a bunch of ninnies,” joked Clinton comms director Jennifer Palmieri.

But the team was determined to find some humor they could agree on. Mook suggested, an “Apprentice” joke, but noted, “I never saw the show. I’m also the worst person to generate jokes....”

Then Jim Margolis revealed a suggestion from Bill Clinton himself: “Wishing after hour 8 that Bernie would come through the door with his ‘damn email’ line.” But Benenson killed the line:

“It’s a joke that would work and room would love it,” he said. “However one caveat: I think it gives Bernie the credit for putting the email crap behind us instead of her --- she crushed the debate and she crushed at the committee. And while crowd may love it question for comms team is whether reporters would take it as proof that Bernie ‘saved' her campaign from the email tempest.”

6) Jeb’s economic message is not so different

Following Jeb Bush’s “right to rise” speech on Feb. 5 in Detroit, Clinton’s aides had different reactions. "It's a scary new wrapping paper for trickle down,” said Jeffrey Liszt, an outside pollster.
Outside comms adviser Mandy Grunwald’s take: “Very little in this speech that HRC wouldn't say….”

7) Bernie oppo

In October 2015, just as Sanders' campaign was starting to pick up steam, Tony Carrk emailed colleagues a list of potential points to use against the Vermont senator. The email, with the subject line "PLS REVIEW: Sanders Hits" featured paragraphs of potential lines of attack against Sanders on labor and the environment, a 1994 crime bill, gun control, gay marriage, and the environment. The Clinton campaign ended up using some of the potential attacks, like Sanders supporting the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, which blocked regulating credit default swaps, while also bashing repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act. Another point proposes attacking Sanders on spending.

" Sen. Sanders has not told the American people how much his plans will cost and how he will pay for them. When asked for specifics, he demurs. When other estimates show trillions in new spending, he simply rejects them without offering his own estimate,” Carrk wrote.

8) Sounding ‘Pro-Keystone'

In the speech excerpts, Clinton-allied researchers flagged her positive remarks about the Keystone XL Pipeline and trade, made well before she came out against the pipeline and the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere,” Clinton told a Brazilian bank in 2013. She added, “We have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access.” 

An aide flagged these remarks as sounding “Pro-Keystone”: "Keystone is a contentious issue, and of course it is important on both sides of the border for different and sometimes opposing reasons, but that is not our relationship.” The Huffington Post has reported that the June 2014 speech to tinePublic, Inc., was among several speeches with ties to two Canadian banks with a financial interest in the oil project.

Brent Griffiths and Daniel Strauss contributed reporting. 


  1. One thing is obvious if Trump wins. He should repeal The Telecommunications Act of 1996, approved by Bill Clinton. He should fight for a progressive surtax on the US media conglomerates and break them with punishing taxes after they reach a certain size and ban all media cross-ownership.

  2. Wow, after hearing Trumps Access Hollywood comments, I can see why Doug loves Trump so much.

    1. And it dovetails with Bob's love for his niece. Perves, the lot of them.

    2. I would break your face if you were here with me, Ash.

      By the way she is one month away from her PhD from Max Planck.

      And you've done exactly what all on your own ?

      You perverse little turd.


  3. Whole thing comes down to naughty words v naughty deeds.

    1. I'm sure you'd be thrilled if Trump grabbed your 'niece' by the pussy.

    2. Where’s Hillary?
      October 8, 2016
      According to her official campaign schedule, apart from the two events this Monday and the 90-minute debates on the 9th and 19th, Hillary will not show her face for twenty days -- without precedent in any American presidential election More


    3. I'd be thrilled to have you by the neck.

  4. The Coming Trump vs. Clinton Sex Scandal Showdown: James Antle, DC Examiner

    Trump's Dirty Talk Versus Hillary's Corruption: Jack Hellner, American Thinker

    And many others at American Thinker

    We will have plenty of reading for the next month.

    It's day time soap box TV !

  5. Donald 'grab'em by the pussy' Trump

    Bob's kind of guy!

  6. Men trash talking and being dogs with women as a political disqualifier would have eliminated the Kennedy and Johnson Administration and President Bill who?

    Only an idiotic public would select a woman who had the deaths of tens of thousands on her hands over a man who was a dog with women and joked about their period.

    What a stupid society we have become.

    1. Joked about their period? That's so old. Today we are talking about grabbing their pussies. Besides, what indication is there that Trump would conduct foreign policy any better? He's on record gushing about his love for Israel and the necessity to defeat ISIS. He bemoans the withdrawal of troops from Iraq as well. Nope, they are both war candidates. I agree with you on the quality of American society as reflected in US politics.

  7. I added a little video clip above from a media darling.

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  9. I ask anyone who is appalled at Trump's latest distraction: Are you the same person you were 11 years ago?

    1. If this is all the media and Democrats can dig up, than they are getting very desperate.

    2. It's kind of funny how American society has changed over the years. I remember when conservatives moaned how Carter demeaned the office of the President by not wearing a coat and tie and now we have a pious Christian who thinks a man who gloats about grabbing pussy when he wants because of the power of his celebrity is A OK.

    3. He was Prince of Queens and went to the Big Apple in the seventies. I worked in Manhattan for two years in that period. My office was on Rockefeller Center with an apartment on Madison Avenue. I had an unlimited expense account and did the scene. That was the time and the players played. Big League.


    4. One of our first clients was Ralph Lifshitz, doing $2.5 million a year in sales as Ralph Lauren. Tommy Hilfiger stuck me for forty grand. We had lunch at The Jockey Club and what Trump did would not have raised an eyebrow in New York City. Guys smoked cigars at their desk and boned the secretaries. Fashion week was like Sodom and Gomorrah and if you could get into Studio 54, you didn’t need to take your own coke. Trump was an altar boy.

  10. .

    One thing is obvious if Trump wins. He should repeal The Telecommunications Act of 1996, approved by Bill Clinton. He should fight for a progressive surtax on the US media conglomerates and break them with punishing taxes after they reach a certain size and ban all media cross-ownership.


    Bubblegum and lollipops.


    1. What was done with a pen can be undone by a pen. ✏️

    2. .

      How can you believe anything Trump says? He changes his positions so fast no one can honestly say what he will or will not do, or for that matter, what he does or does not think. Given Trumps character or lack of it, it's very likely he would...I was going... to say succumb but the man is already there...to the impulse to go along and feather his nest even further with the power of the presidency to help him. Do you really believe his bull about looking out for the little guy?

      I’m not afraid of Trump because he is a crass and boorish buffoon with an insipid character and persona. I’m afraid of him because he is a nut.

      Clinton is corrupt, a congenital liar, either a crook and/or completely incompetent, in other words, your typical politician. What we can expect if she is elected is a continuation of what we have seen over the last couple decades. Not good. Not good at all.

      Early on, I argued that we know what we will get with Clinton and we don’t know with Trump. Therefore, there was at least hope that Trump would be something different. Therefore, if forced into a choice between Scylla and Charybdis and not wishing to share the fate of Buridan’s ass, I would likely following the wisdom of the Clash, "If I go there will be trouble, an' if I stay it will be double", and I would have had to vote for Trump under the hope he would change things for the better.

      Now, after a year of this buffoon prancing around making a fool of himself like a 5 year old with a sugar high, with his insults and his tantrums, his changing positions and irrational behavior, I have to admit that as bad as Hillary is Trump has the personality defects and the anemic intellect to be far more dangerous than Hillary.

      I wouldn’t vote for a corrupt liar in Hillary and the same applies to Trump. The difference is that in addition to all that, I firmly believe that Trump is one sick puppy.

      The man is a narcissist with a severe inferiority complex, a condition shared with many other blustering bullies. We see this in his language, in his insults, in his braggadocio, in the defensiveness with which he counters every slight no matter how large or how small even when the offense would normally work out to his advantage, we see it in how he just won’t let it go even to the point of sending out tweets at 3:00 in the morning. The man is sick and that is dangerous especially at times when tensions are high with other nuclear powers.

      One can only imagine Trump’s thought processes if Putin were to call on the red phone and say something like “Da, my father could kick your father’s butt”.


  11. If you live long enough, you’ll make mistakes. But if you learn from them, you'll be a better person. It's how you handle adversity, not how it affects you. The main thing is never quit, never quit, never quit.

    William J. Clinton

    Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/william_j_clinton.html

    1. .

      Let me know when he starts learning. The man is 70 years old.


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    3. .

      You can't teach an old dog new tricks.




    A bombardment carried out by Saudi-led coalition jets has rocked a funeral ceremony in the Yemeni capital of Sanaa, killing or injuring 616 people, the local health minister said.
    The Saudi-led coalition targeted a building hosting a Houthi funeral ceremony, killing a total of 82 people, local Health Minister Ghazi Ismail said during a press briefing.

    According to the official, 534 more have been wounded as a result. Ismail’s deputy, Abdul-Salam al-Madani, said that the bombardment was carried out by the Riyadh-led coalition jets, as cited by Reuters.

  13. An airstrike by a Saudi-led coalition on Saturday targeted a funeral hall packed with mourners in Yemen’s capital, Sanaa, killing at least 82 people and turning the site into a “lake of blood,” according to a senior Health Ministry official.

    Nasser al-Argaly, the Health Ministry's undersecretary, told a news conference that the strike also left 534 people wounded. The casualty figures were not final, he added.

    Yemeni security and medical officials said the dead and wounded include military and security officials from the ranks of the Shiite Houthi rebels fighting the internationally-recognized government of President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi as well as their allies, loyalists of President Ali Abdullah Saleh.

    Among those killed was Maj-Gen. Abdul-Qader Hilal, head of the capital's local council, according to the officials. Saturday's funeral was held for Sheikh Ali al-Rawishan, father of Galal al-Rawishan, the interior minister in the rebel-led government. Galal Al-Rishwan was seriously wounded in the attack.

    In the aftermath of the strike, hundreds of body parts were found strewn in and outside the hall. Rescuers collected them in sacks.

    "The place has been turned into a lake of blood," said one rescuer, Murad Tawfiq.

    Ambulances rushed to the site to ferry the wounded to hospitals. In radio broadcasts, the Health Ministry summoned off-duty doctors and called on residents to donate blood. Rescuers, meanwhile, sifted through the rubble in search of more casualties, but a fire that erupted hindered their work.

  14. For a generation of Americans old enough to remember, the Korean conflict is often dubbed the “forgotten war”. Where Hollywood has lionised or contextualised those who fought in the Second World War and Vietnam, the nearly 2 million Americans who fought on the Korean peninsula in the early 1950s have largely been airbrushed from history.

    Fast forward 60 odd years, and Americans find themselves participating in yet another forgotten war: Yemen.

    Where the unfolding tragedy in Syria has grabbed media attention in the US over the course of the past five years, at least intermittently, America’s participation and contribution towards alleged war crimes and the unmitigated humanitarian crisis in Yemen is yet to have even grabbed the attention of CNN’s scrolling news ticker.

    Effectively what this means is this: the US mainstream media is choosing to broadcast to US viewers news stories that reflect only the geopolitical positions of the US administration. While this is hardly breaking news or some kind of deep revelation, given how US media behaved as cheerleader-in-chief for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, it’s still worth noting.

    1. So true.
      Not a single frame was ever filmed of my time in Korea.


    For instance, when Russia bombs an aid convoy, attacks a hospital or a school in Syria, a spokesperson for the US administration will come forward to denounce Russia’s intervention, and the media will cover it. But when US taxpayer bombs, using US military guidance systems, blow up wedding parties, schools, anything, you can cut the silence with the proverbial knife.

    Where John Kerry condemned Russia’s attack on the aid convoy, and was reported by most major media outlets, the US-led attack against civilians in Yemen went widely unnoticed

    On the same weekend The New York Times ran a full-page article on how Russia attacked 31 humanitarian aid trucks, killing 18 civilians, on the outskirts of Aleppo, Syria, US fighter jets fired missiles into five residential homes in Hudaida province, Yemen, killing 26 civilians.

    Where US Secretary of State John Kerry condemned Russia’s attack on the aid convoy, calling for an immediate grounding of all Russian warplanes so that aid deliveries could continue, which was reported by most major media outlets, the US-led attack against civilians in Yemen went widely unnoticed.

    Sorry – my bad – the US government did make an announcement on Yemen that very same day: “Senate clears way for $1.5 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia.” Which now means Obama has shipped more weapons to Saudi Arabia than any previous US president, taking the kingdom’s haul to an eye-popping $115 billion since 2009.


    These weapons have inflicted an almost unimaginable human catastrophe on the people of Yemen. That is, unimaginable only if you hadn’t heard of the parallel catastrophe in Syria. Since the start of 2015, the Saudi-US intervention in Yemen has resulted in the deaths of more than 10,000 people, most of them civilians, alongside another three million who have been displaced from their homes, and another 21 million in urgent need of humanitarian aid.

    It’s also interesting to note that, at the same time senior US officials call for the enforcement of a no-fly zone in Syria in order to protect civilians, the US-Saudi coalition is also carrying out air strikes in Yemen that are killing civilians.

    If Saudi Arabia’s relentless attack on Yemen was underwritten by Russia, instead of the US, it’s likely Americans would know more about the human suffering taking place in this country. But it’s not, and thus they know less, not more.

    In September, a report compiled by the Yemen Data Project found that more than third of US-Saudi airstrikes have struck civilian sites – including hospitals, schools, mosques, and government buildings.

    The report noted that of 8,600 air strikes carried out between March 2015 and August 2016, 3,577 hit military sites, while 3,158 struck non-military targets. While the report says some of these attacks on civilian targets can be attributed to “mistakes,” the fact repeated air strikes have struck schools, hospitals and mosques points to a more sinister conclusion.

  17. The absurd and disgusting double standard of the US political establishment under Obama/Kerry/Clinton and their cheer leaders in the US media.

    1. .

      When you say US media, I assume you mean 98% of US media, both right- and left-wing media. Their take on the slaughter and waste seems to be influenced solely on which political party is currently carrying it out not on any moral, legal, or economic basis.

      It's a zero sum game where the winners get to drop the bombs.


  18. There is a basket of deplorables but they are not supporting Donald Trump.

    1. .

      There are a few here who were deplorable before deplorable was cool.



  19. Yes, Yemen is a “shit show” but it is a “shit show” that is exacerbated by a US-backed coalition, and it’s a only a US-backed coalition that can bring an end to a “shit show” that has led to the deaths of 10,000 Yemenis and the pending doom of tens of millions more.

    - CJ Werleman is the author of Crucifying America, God Hates You. Hate Him Back, Koran Curious, and is the host of Foreign Object. Follow him on twitter: @cjwerleman

  20. http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/american-made-catastrophe-yemen-2117766545

  21. Trump is a safer bet. If he fucks up, he will be impeached and removed from office. Clinton is a sociopath for which there is no cure.

    1. .

      Trump is a safer bet. If he fucks up, he will be impeached and removed from office.

      Stop it, you're killing me.

      Trump is a nut job who shouldn't be allowed to handle sharp objects much less the nuclear codes.

      Hillary would show some restraint if only to save her ass and her assets. Trump would go off because he heard Putin called him a pussy. The man is nutz.


    2. The Media would hold Trump accountable.

      The Media will lie, omit, and cover for Hillary LIKE THEY ARE DOING NOW.

      Do you contend this is not a serious, significant difference?

  22. Who else here besides Ash considers talk about grabbing pussy worse than trashing the Rape victims of Bill Clinton?

    1. Doug, are you suggesting Trump is all talk and no action?

    2. "Jill Harth’s first concern with Donald Trump’s hands wasn’t that they were small. It’s that they were everywhere.

      Harth and her longtime boyfriend were in meetings with Trump to forge a business partnership. “He was relentless,” Harth recalled in an interview, describing how on Dec. 12, 1992, he took the couple to dinner and a club — and then situated himself beside Harth and ran his hands up her skirt, to her crotch. “I didn’t know how to handle it. I would go away from him and say I have to go to the restroom. It was the escape route.”"


  23. BROADDRICK: Hillary’s actions speak louder than Trump’s words

    “Actions speak louder than words. (Donald Trump) said bad things! (Hillary Clinton) threatened me after (Bill Clinton) raped me.”

    Broaddrick’s dose of perspective comes as the mainstream media has been silent and uninterested in the ongoing accusations against Bill Clinton and Hillary’s attempts to silence his accusers.

    But in the last 24 hours, they’ve reported ad nauseam about Trump’s 2005 locker room talk caught on a hot mic.


  24. Quirk lives in the MSM bubble, decrying all other sources of information.

  25. "Hillary would show some restraint..."

    Like she did in Libya.

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmp3Jndj_o

  26. Bill Clinton Grabs Stewardess Pussy


  27. GOP Voters Heckle Paul Ryan, Chant: “SHAME ON YOU!” at Rally! (VIDEO)

    Speaker Paul Ryan dumped Donald Trump from his rally today after audio was released on Friday of Trump talking about p*ssy.
    Paul Ryan is more upset with Donald Trump’s locker room talk than Barack Obama’s assault on


  28. The crude comments made by Donald J. Trump more than 11 years ago cannot be defended. But the godless progressive agenda of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton likewise cannot be defended. I am not endorsing any candidates in this election.

    I have said it throughout this presidential campaign, and I will say it again—both candidates are flawed. The only hope for the United States is God. Our nation’s many sins have permeated our society, leading us to where we are today.

    But as Christians we can’t back down from our responsibility to remain engaged in the politics of our nation. On November 8th we will all have a choice to make.

    The two candidates have very different visions for the future of America. The most important issue of this election is the Supreme Court. That impacts everything.

    There’s no question, Trump and Clinton scandals might be news for the moment, but who they appoint to the Supreme Court will remake the fabric of our society for our children and our grandchildren, for generations to come.

    - Franklin Graham


  29. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuR8K7_XEAEXcNO.jpg

  30. ht Bob:

    Where’s Hillary?

    According to her official campaign schedule, apart from the two events this Monday and the 90-minute debates on the 9th and 19th, Hillary will not show her face for twenty days -- without precedent in any American presidential election.

    Surrogates have been speaking for Hillary and will continue to do so until October 10, when she’s scheduled to appear at a voter registration event in Detroit and a rally in Columbus. She’ll fly out to San Francisco for a fundraiser on the 13th but will not appear in public between the 10th and the final debate on the 19th. Her campaign schedule runs through the 23rd, and she has no further events planned. This means that apart from the two events this Monday and the 90-minute debates on the 9th and 19th, Hillary will not show her face for twenty days.

    No chance for the cameras to catch her chronic cough, her exotropia (failure of her eyes to converge when looking outward), her dyskinesia (involuntary head movements in response to lights and noise), her tremors, her freezes, her falls. And she’ll have plenty of time to take drug holidays – structured treatment interruptions – to increase the effectiveness of her medications when she resumes treatment just before a debate.

    The failure to campaign in October is without precedent in any American presidential election in living memory. Even in 1944, FDR, in failing health and confined to his wheelchair, campaigned vigorously in October.

    The media, of course, is studiously ignoring Hillary’s hibernation. Donald Trump shouldn’t.


  31. Crap on Crapo for me, Bob!

    Former GOP presidential contender Carly Fiorina on Saturday called on him to quit the campaign, as did Sens. Mike Crapo of Idaho and Mike Lee of Utah. New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte, in a tight race to save her seat, withdrew her endorsement.


    1. All these Pussies that want a Criminal and a Rapist back in the Whitehouse.


      ...as bad as Quirk.


  32. Republican elected officials abandon Trump as he vows not to quit the race


    ...as they remain MUTE on Bill, Hill, and Obama.

  33. Celia Hayes Joan •

    My daughter (the two-hitch Marine) just giggles over Trump's locker-room talk; she overheard (and occasionally participated in) much raunchier conversations by the male Marines when she was in. The fuss over the Trump Tape is just so much ostentatious pearl-clutching by a media who has unexpectedly turned into the 21st century version of Margo Dumont in a Marx Brothers farce.

    1. Joan •

      One woman's take on the Trump Tape: when men of a certain type start in on locker room talk, women of a certain type retire to another room and talk about serious subjects.

      Of a womanly type.

      This is much ado about nothing.

      This is much ado about nothing.

    2. ...but it gives Ash and Quirk the vapors!

    3. Well, Doug, we do know that for you grabbing at pussy is just Trumps way of being politically correct and if it were you talking we'd be blessed with you goosing some cunt.

    4. Heh, and some 35 Republican Congress critters abandoning Trump is much ado about nothing.

    5. Which is worse, Ash, trash talk, or raping someone ?

      And then threatening her with death if they talk, 'make trouble' ?

    6. Ash and Quirk lose their tongues on that one.

      Odd that they are unable to see themselves for WHO THEY ARE.

  34. Doug Sat Oct 08, 06:06:00 PM EDT

    Too complex for Quirk.

    Yup, who runs the Supreme Court for the next generation is a head scratcher for poor old Quirk, who doesn't think enough to have even thought of it.

    I gave $150 to Raul Labrador, Doug, and zero to anyone else.

    They are both going to win, Crapo and Labrador.

    I like Raul, our Congressman and now Raul our dog, a Great Dane, Doberman G.Shepard mix.

    Wonderfully kind dog and can he run !

    All this talk about some Trump talk from a decade ago is being blown out of proportion by the left nd the media to cover the multitude of true sins committed by BillyGoat and aided and covered up by Bleach Bitch.

    1. Ash and Quirk follow their programmers in lockstep.


  35. Some real actual victims speak:



    BROADDRICK: She lives with and protects a rapist....

    PAULA JONES: Bill 'was getting wee wee sucked under Oval Office desk and won second term'...

    Protesters Taunt Clinton at Milwaukee Rally....DRUDGE

  36. "Heh, and some 35 Republican Congress critters abandoning Trump is much ado about nothing."

    Simply describes what chickenshit, phoney, worthless bastards they are.

    ...as you defend the Dems and MSM that always cover for the criminal and enabler, the abuser, and the rapist.

  37. FBI agents reportedly close to revolt over Comey’s friendly treatment of Clinton
    Oct 8, 2016 7:01 PM by Jazz Shaw

    Undermining the credibility of the Bureau and the confidence of the people

    1. Super Slimeball Comey.

      Complete and absolute corruption at the top.

  38. A video showing Bill harassing a stew is ignored, a video showing Trump talking about pussy,

    The End of The World

    ...for the pre-program-ed.

    1. You really are a fucking wacko if you believe that video is evidence of groping.

    2. Ok:

      But workplace sexual abuse and rape is fine with you?

    3. Before they got his mind right, Dr. Lewinsky called Bill a misogynist.

      An accurate diagnosis.

  39. Hillary has corrupted the State Department, the Justice Department and he FBI; and BillyGoat raped women and Hillary covered and threatened.....and they got rich doing all this too.....they should be in jail, for rape, coercion, theft, treason....

    And SMIRK'n'QUIRK are upset about a little Donald trash talk from long ago.

    This nation needs a literacy test for voting to purge our polls of true nitwits like SMIRK'n'QUIRK.

  40. Ash and Quirk:

    Have you ever known someone with a Sensitive compartmented information (SCI) clearance?

    1. My best friend from 3rd grade through college has never told me ONE THING about the old Agena Satellite nor it's film packets retrieved from space.

      Nor has our son told me anything about what goes on with the Air Force Tracking Telescopes atop Haleakala, nor the Surpercomputer here that handles the data.

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  42. Clinton is vulnerable to questions about how she treated the women her husband had affairs with -- and less the fact that the affairs happened at all.

    In 1992, Clinton sharply dismissed Flowers, who was then accusing her husband of adultery. As first lady, Clinton called her "some failed cabaret singer who doesn't even have much of a resume to fall back on."

    Her husband later admitted that he did, in fact, have an affair with Flowers.
    And in a letter to her friend that became public in 2014, Clinton also called Lewinsky a "narcissistic loony toon."

    Clinton has had plenty of practice responding to Republicans on her spouse's past.
    Earlier this year, for example, as Clinton began taking questions at a town hall in New Hampshire, GOP state representative Katherine Prudhomme O'Brien stood just feet from the candidate and began shouting about Bill Clinton.

    After dismissing her once, Clinton forcefully responded.
    "You are very rude, and I'm not ever going to call on you," Clinton said looking directly at the woman. "Thank you."

    Prudhomme later said that she was asking about Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones -- three women who have accused Bill Clinton of misconduct.


  43. The Hillary campaign has been coordinating with the Soros groups.

    That alone should tell anyone all they need to know.

    Campaign Coordinating With Soros Org....DRUDGE

    Leaked Emails Show Clinton Campaign Coordinating With Soros Organization

    Peter Hasson
    Reporter, Associate Editor

    8:21 PM 10/07/2016

    Leaked emails from Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta’s personal email account published by WikiLeaks reveal the Clinton campaign’s coordination with George Soros’s Open Society Foundations on the subject of police reform.

    A combination photo shows billionaire financier George Soros (L) addressing the audience during an economic speech in Frankfurt on April 9, 2013 and former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (R) speaking at a campaign event in Falls Church, Virginia on October 19, 2013 respectively. REUTERS/Ralph Orlowski (L) and Yuri Gripas (R)

    Soros, who has given almost $10 million to Clinton super PAC Priorities USA, is a major funder of Black Lives Matter. The Washington Times reported in August that Soros has given at least $33 million to the group through the Open Society Foundations (OSF), which he funds and controls.
    Both OSF and Clinton have called to crack down on police officers’ “implicit bias.”
    As reported by The Daily Caller last month, internal OSF documents say the mainstreaming of “implicit bias” is meant to serve as a foundation from which to overhaul the nation’s anti-discrimination laws and make it easier to file racial discrimination lawsuits by eliminating the need to prove intent.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/07/leaked-emails-show-clinton-campaign-coordinating-with-soros-organization/#ixzz4MYUUQBHu

  44. Pecos2 Joan •

    I was discussing the Trump uproar with an elderly friend toady. A very genteel old lady. She told me an old joke from another time. .
    Men are like linoleum. If you lay them right, you can walk on them for forty years.
    Less crude, but about the same.

    1. :)

      I think the old gal is on to something.

  45. O'bozo: 'Ribs....and pussy too'

    Reading marvelous passages from his book, I think.


  46. Did you happen to look at the top of this post?

    1. jeez ! I missed it somehow.

      Now I am ashamed, and I feel as dumb as Ash.

      I read the main body of the post though !

  47. Hugh Hewitt is calling on the candidate to quit the race while Arnold Schwarzenegger says he will not vote Republican for the first time since 1983. John McCain also formally withdraws his support for Trump's candidacy.



    1. Hewitt is now employed by NBC and has relocated to Washington DC.

      Corrupt Pussy.

    2. Whole list of GOP Fucktards, all like Quirk and Ash, unwilling to utter word one about Hillary's enabling and abuse wrt to Bill's abuse of women.

      The Madness of Crowds.

  48. .


    How bad do you have to be before Tic Tac starts sending out tweets denouncing you?

    The USA branch of the candy company, which is owned by the Italian candy manufacturer Ferrero, said on Twitter that,

    "Tic Tac respects all women. We find the recent statements and behavior completely inappropriate and unacceptable."


    You can't make this stuff up.



    1. Nice deflection.

      Cat got your tongue wrt to the real crooks and abusers.

      None so blind...

    2. Ash and Quirk join Rufus in the refuse to respond camp.

  49. .

    Bill Clinton tweeted...

    Turn in your man-card, Donald. What kind of a dick drops a dime on his bro about what was said during a golf outing? You better start using that transgender restroom, pussy.


  50. Tic Tacs have come out with a new 'Mixers'- A Flavor Changing Experience - Cherry-Cola in red packaging.


  51. “How are any of the women going to be expected to work with him?” asks a source close to the show.
    There is a growing sense of outrage at NBC’s Today show — especially among the show’s many female staffers — about comments Billy Bush made on a hot mic with Donald Trump during a taping for a 2005 Access Hollywood segment. And many of them are wondering what management is going to do about it.

    “It’s disgusting,” said one female staffer. “He was already unpopular,” said another, noting that Bush and his 9 a.m. co-anchor, Tamron Hall, have an icy relationship. Bush also has clashed on air with Al Roker over Bush’s handling of an interview with Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte during which Bush failed to challenge Lochte’s yarn about being held up at gunpoint in Rio.

    NBC delayed releasing the tapes for nearly four days, according to the Washington Post, out of fear of a Trump lawsuit. A source confirms to THR that Access Hollywood and the news division held the audio until lawyer approval.

    Trump Tape Fallout: Concern Over Billy Bush Grows at 'Today' Show

    Trump and Bush were recorded using extremely vulgar and predatory language in a conversation about Nancy O’Dell, who was Bush’s Access Hollywood co-host at the time.


    1. ...but these same morons will have no problem voting for a corrupt crook and serial abuser.

  52. .

    If the MSM is really out to get Trump, CNN will simply do what NBC did in the first debate, simply put him on split screen for the entire debate. It's like looking at a spider under a magnifying glass. All the flaws are on display all the time, both physical and psychological. You are forced to watch him. It's like a slow motion train wreck.

    From a Mo Dowd column...

    Yet for the A.D.D. Trump, it seems to be part of the thrill to wing it. His preferred mode when I have interviewed him over the years is the lightning round, where he swiftly offers short opinions on a range of subjects. That format doesn’t work so well in a presidential race.

    I asked Steve Schmidt, a Republican strategist, what bait Hillary might dangle this time to get Trump to lose it like Jack Nicholson in “A Few Good Men” and scream, “You WANT me to build that wall!”

    “Same bait,” Schmidt replied. “I have a black Lab and when you show the black Lab a tennis ball, there is fire in his eyes. He is going to get that ball. He’ll do it a thousand times. No more than the Lab can’t not chase the ball, Trump can’t not respond. He’s unable to not have the last word.”

    That is not toughness. That is pathology.


    1. How would half dead Hillary be doing if the entire MSM and their followers like you were out to get her like they are out to get Trump?

  53. Before Her Assassination, Berta Cáceres Singled Out Hillary Clinton for Backing Honduran Coup

    Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is facing a new round of questions about her handling of the 2009 coup in Honduras that ousted democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya. Since the coup, Honduras has become one of the most violent places in the world.

    Last week, indigenous environmental activist Berta Cáceres was assassinated in her home. In an interview two years ago, Cáceres singled out Clinton for her role supporting the coup. "We’re coming out of a coup that we can’t put behind us. We can’t reverse it," Cáceres said. "It just kept going. And after, there was the issue of the elections.

    The same Hillary Clinton, in her book, 'Hard Choices,' practically said what was going to happen in Honduras. This demonstrates the meddling of North Americans in our country.

    The return of the president, Mel Zelaya, became a secondary issue. There were going to be elections in Honduras. And here she [Clinton] recognized that they didn’t permit Mel Zelaya’s return to the presidency."
    We play this rarely seen clip of Cáceres and speak to historian Greg Grandin.


    1. GREG GRANDIN: Yeah, and she criticizes Hillary Clinton’s book, Hard Choices, where Clinton was holding up her actions in Honduras as an example of a clear-eyed pragmatism. I mean, that book is effectively a confession.
      Every other country in the world or in Latin America was demanding the restitution of democracy and the return of Manuel Zelaya. It was Clinton who basically relegated that to a secondary concern and insisted on elections, which had the effect of legitimizing and routinizing the coup regime and creating the nightmare scenario that exists today.

      I mean—and it’s also in her emails. The real scandal about the emails isn’t the question about process—you know, she wanted to create an off-the-books communication thing that couldn’t be FOIAed. The real scandal about those emails are the content of the emails.

      She talks—the process by which she works to delegitimate Zelaya and legitimate the elections, which Cáceres, in that interview, talks about were taking place under extreme militarized conditions, fraudulent, a fig leaf of democracy, are all in the emails.

    2. Another Anti-Clintonista ends up dead.

  54. GREG GRANDIN: Well, that’s just one horror. I mean, hundreds of peasant activists and indigenous activists have been killed. Scores of gay rights activists have been killed. I mean, it’s just—it’s just a nightmare in Honduras. I mean, there’s ways in which the coup regime basically threw up Honduras to transnational pillage. And Berta Cáceres, in that interview, says what was installed after the coup was something like a permanent counterinsurgency on behalf of transnational capital.

    And that was—that wouldn’t have been possible if it were not for Hillary Clinton’s normalization of that election, or legitimacy.

  55. Suspect in custody 12 hours after fatal shooting of 2 Palm Springs police officers

    The victims are identified as Officer Jose “Gil" Vega, who was due to retire in December, and Officer Lesley Zerebny, mother of a 4-month-old.


  56. It's not the Bobbsey twins we have here but the Bobbsey triplets.

    Any criticism of Trump and their argument is 'but Bill Clinton did something bad, and, oh my, Obama said pussy, and Maher said Twat'

    WOW, what logic, what intelligence, what powerful arguments! WiO would be proud.

  57. .

    I disagreed with WiO a lot but I won't blame him for something he didn't say.

    With him, at least, you can have a rational conversation/argument and it's not like talking to a pile of rocks. Any point of contention with him seems to be centered on one subject whereas with the others it runs the gamut.

    The genius of Rufus. Just ignore them. I wish he was still here so I could thank him for showing me the light. It saves so much aggravation and wasted time.


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    2. Deuce is the third I was referring to though, in his defense, he at least demonstrates an ability to read, understand, and change.