COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Saturday, June 11, 2016

Is It Time To Look At Gary Johnson?


No, The Marijuana Issue is enough to tank him.

Libertarian Gary Johnson: Jeb Bush and anti-Trump Republicans will vote for me


The third-party nominee Gary Johnson believes former Republican candidates for president, Jeb Bush and Lindsey Graham among them, will defect at the polls this November rather than vote for Donald Trump. He expects they’ll vote Libertarian instead.

“When it’s all said and done, they’ll pull the Johnson-Weld lever because it’s a real choice,” the former governor of New Mexico told the Guardian in a wide-ranging interview this week. Johnson said he founded his prediction “on instinct”, but that he was confident that he had high-profile Republican votes – “whether they say so or not is another story”.

Johnson may already have at least one Republican leader knocking on his door. Mitt Romney, the party’s 2012 nominee, told CNN on Friday that he was considering casting his lot with the Libertarians.

“If Bill Weld were at the top of the ticket, it would be very easy for me to vote for Bill Weld for president,” he said. Weld is Johnson’s running mate and preceded Romney as governor of Massachusetts.

Johnson, who is at 12% in a recent national poll, hopes that by winning voters disaffected by Trump and Hillary Clinton, he can establish his party as a political force to be reckoned with. 

In particular, Johnson insisted that he is a fit for supporters of a Democrat – the Vermont senator Bernie Sanders – who may be less than enthused about Clinton’s nomination for the party. He cited an online quiz in which he sided with the Vermont senator 73% of the time, adding: “We’re on the same page when it comes to people and their choices.”

“Legalizing marijuana, military intervention and that crony capitalism is alive and well,” he said, rattling off issues of concern that he and the progressive Sanders share. “People with money are able to pay for privilege, and they buy it.” 

But they differ on key economic issues, where, as Johnson put it, “We definitely come to a fork in the road.” The paths diverge even more widely on campaign finance: Sanders wants to limit major contributions; Johnson supports unlimited campaign donations provided everything is disclosed. 

Johnson also finds trouble on the other side of the spectrum. He veers widely from conservative orthodoxy in ways that could alienate social conservatives who are suspicious of Trump. Although Johnson claimed his “right-to-life credentials as governor of New Mexico were pretty good”, he said that in recent years he had “come more and more on the side of woman’s right to choose”.

He said his position “mirrors the law of the land, which is Casey v Planned Parenthood, which is that a woman has a right to have an abortion up to viability of the fetus”.

Trump made several contradictory statements about abortion in the course of 24 hours, and long before his campaign, he declared himself “very pro-choice”. In contrast, ultraconservatives such as failed Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz, a are adamantly anti-abortion.

Johnson is also a strong advocate for immigration reform, and derided Trump as a racist, citing the presumptive nominee’s recent comments about a Hispanic federal judge. “To call someone who was born in the US a Mexican is racist,” Johnson said. “It’s like the N-word, and I am speaking as a border state governor, as someone who lives in a state that is 48% Hispanic.”

He expressed his opposition to immigration quotas, saying: “There will either be jobs or there won’t be jobs,” and said that all 11 million undocumented migrants should be able to “come by the office and get your work visa, which you will get as long as you have been law abiding”.

And although Johnson, like Trump, ran for office as a businessman who self-funded an “outsider” campaign, the former governor was quick to draw distinctions. “We have much different business ethics and I don’t owe anyone any money right now,” he said.

On foreign policy, Johnson pushed back on the notion that Libertarians were isolationist, but sounded dovish tones nonetheless. 

“The threat from Isis is a bit overblown,” he said, arguing that US intervention abroad had exacerbated the problem of terror groups: “After 9/11, Isis membership was 200 members. Today it’s 40,000.”

The Libertarian’s unorthodox views on the Middle East extended to the Israel-Palestine peace process. He said Israel “will determine its destiny but the United States shouldn’t meddle itself or get involved in this”.

His priority for action instead lies in Asia. “The real threat in the world today is, I believe, North Korea,” he argued, saying he wanted to work “hand and hand with China to deal with this”. But Johnson’s goal is not a steadying US presence on the peninsula:“Stabilizing North and South Korea and potentially unifying the Koreas” would allow the US to withdraw its troops from South Korea, he said.
Johnson was also agnostic about the possibility of the UK leaving the European Union. He refused to say whether a potential Brexit would hurt the US: “I would assume that Britain acting in its best interests would be in the best interests of the United States. I am going to assume them that making that decision would be in their best interests.” 

He condemned Barack Obama’s “presumption” to urge the UK not to exit.“I think we are far removed from the decision-making that will occur in Britain,” he said.

92 comments:

  1. I don’t think legalization of marijuana is a great idea. I’ve tried it and it’s fun, but it does make you stupid. Too many voters will not support it, but that should be a state issue and not a federal interest.

    It would not affect me on supporting him but it would hurt him.

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  2. Not Presidential material.

    Crime up in Colorado.

    I am predicting the SAT scores go down in Colorado, Washington state, and where ever the loco weed is legalized.

    This stuff today is not the 1960's weed.

    It should not be legalized, which puts society's OK on it.

    Decriminalization is a better way to go.

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  3. Quirk is suing the Armed Services for the snuff films so he can be outraged.

    galopn2Sat Jun 11, 05:00:00 PM EDT
    June 11

    Strikes in Syria

    Attack, bomber, fighter and remotely piloted aircraft conducted 13 strikes in Syria:

    -- Near Manbij, eight strikes struck seven separate ISIL tactical units and destroyed four ISIL fighting positions and an ISIL vehicle.

    -- Near Mara, five strikes struck five separate ISIL tactical units and destroyed four ISIL fighting positions, an ISIL tactical vehicle and two ISIL vehicles.

    Strikes in Iraq

    Fighter and remotely piloted aircraft and rocket artillery conducted 18 strikes in Iraq, coordinated with and in support of Iraq’s government:

    -- Near Baghdadi, two strikes destroyed two ISIL artillery pieces and an ISIL front-end loader.

    -- Near Fallujah, two strikes struck a large ISIL tactical unit; destroyed nine ISIL fighting positions, two ISIL recoilless rifles, three ISIL light machine guns, two ISIL heavy machine guns and an ISIL anti-air artillery piece; and denied ISIL access to terrain.

    -- Near Habbaniyah, two strikes struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed an ISIL staging area, an ISIL command and control node, and two ISIL storage areas and denied ISIL access to terrain.

    -- Near Haditha, a strike destroyed an ISIL rocket cache.

    -- Near Kisik, a strike struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed an ISIL supply cache and an ISIL vehicle.

    -- Near Mosul, three strikes struck two ISIL tactical units; destroyed an ISIL fighting position, three ISIL assembly areas, an ISIL vehicle bomb and an ISIL heavy machine gun; and denied ISIL access to terrain.

    -- Near Qayyarah, seven strikes struck a large ISIL tactical unit, five ISIL communication sites, an ISIL recruitment facility, and an ISIL bed-down location; destroyed four ISIL assembly areas, an ISIL vehicle, six ISIL rocket rails and an ISIL mortar position; and suppressed a separate ISIL mortar position.

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  4. What if Gary Johnson is high when the 3a.m. phone call comes in ?

    Hillary was sound asleep, maybe with Huma.

    I don't think I want Johnson's toked up mind considering the nuclear button.

    With The Donald we'll have someone who doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs.

    And look at The Donald's energy level !

    My wife likes him just for those reasons alone.

    For other reasons too....but she is impressed with his self control and energy level.

    Besides she wants Hillary in prison....

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    1. TRUMP FULL SPEED AHEAD
      'FEEL LIKE I'M 35' .... DRUDGE

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  5. I posted some of Johnson's policy positions the other day. He would cut, and fairly quickly Privatize Social Security, and gut Medicare, medicaid, and any other safety net programs that cost money (actually, all of them.)

    Libertarianism is, basically, feudalism, when reduced to its essence. It's a silly wet dream for Billionaires, and all other would-be Lords of the Manor. It's nonsensical.

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    1. An informal lunchtime poll at Romney's Super Hard Hitters Retreat showed a more-or-less 50-50 split between Trump, and Hillary Clinton.

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      He's also for a consumption tax. Doesn't get more regressive than that.

      On the other hand, he wants to cut the military, do away with the Patriot Act, and avoid foreign entanglements. If you look hard enough you can usually find something god to say about everyone.

      Although I'm still struggling with Hillary.

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    Quirk is suing the Armed Services for the snuff films so he can be outraged.


    Still, asshole?

    Once more you prove you don't know the difference between war and crowd control.

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    1. I would say that when it comes to arabs RIOTING?

      You really don't KNOW jack shit.

      Really.

      And to compare crowd control verses low intensity warfare?

      Shows you are either a moron or you are lying on purpose.

      which is it?

      Do you lie about this just to get a reaction? Or are you just plain stupid.

      I'd entertain another option, but that cannot be you are correct, because you simply are wrong.

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  7. Geeze you guys think like old geezers - yes to Mary Jane is a political winner.

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      We are old geezers and with age comes wisdom.

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    2. With age shouldn't come closing of the mind.

      The veterans that testify of the benefits of MJ over their PTSD should give pause to any kneejerk judgements.

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    3. Might it not cause uncomfortable flash backs in some ?

      Just asking.

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      With age shouldn't come closing of the mind.

      The same applies to callow youth. In addition, they shouldn't simply accept conventional wisdom without question and without an effort to determine root causes.

      There is an interesting example illustrating that point here...

      http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2012/01/02/144431794/what-vietnam-taught-us-about-breaking-bad-habits

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  8. Let's be honest; a republican would have to be an absurd optimist to think that Romney has any chance at the White House (or, Gary Johnson, either.) Hillary is the next President.

    The only thing of even slight interest is whether the dems can flip 4 senate seats. It's probably a little better than 50-50, but I wouldn't want to put the rent money on it, right now.

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    1. It's too early to put any assurances on Hillary. Too many things can happen. You still have the FBI Report as a coming attraction.

      Keep your money in you wallet.

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  9. Rufism is, basically, Fuddism, when reduced to its essence. It's a silly wet dream of Budders and other would-be Lords of the Swamp. It's nonsensical.

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  10. Only the strong survive -

    Hundreds of England fans run for their lives as they are attacked by Russian thugs INSIDE Marseille stadium after 1-1 draw - as one fan is left fighting for his life following brutal violence during the day

    •Mass brawl breaks out in stadium after Russian fans rip down English flags and chase hundreds across terraces

    •Supporters were seen hurling themselves over railings and frantic parents holding children, as they try to escape

    •UEFA to launch disciplinary proceedings regarding crowd incidents with Russia set to face sterner punishment

    •Trouble has waged for third day on streets with police separating supporters with water cannon and tear gas

    •An England fan is fighting for his life in hospital while 31 others have been left needing treatment for injuries

    •Northern Ireland fans have also been battling local youths in Nice prior to their match against Poland tomorrow

    By Nick Fagge In Marseille and Thomas Burrows and Alex Matthews In London For Mailonline

    Published: 10:06 EST, 11 June 2016 | Updated: 20:14 EST, 11 June 2016
    ..

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3636705/The-Big-Kick-Hundreds-England-Russia-fans-clash-running-battles-streets-Marseille-ahead-tonight-s-Euro-2016-match-baton-wielding-police-fighting-tear-gas.html#ixzz4BKyTIoOX


    Many bloody pics, plus video of Northern Ireland fans taking on the Polish....

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    1. Fucking Europeans going back to their roots. True Thugs on all sides.

      It's 'Chevy Chase' by Chaucer without the deer.

      They make our commie Bernie/Hillary thugs look like pikers.

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  11. Female Twitter -

    (photo of some old hag kissing Bernie)

    'I'm sexually attracted to Bernie and even I want him to pull out'

    from Greg Gutfeld Show

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  12. "Statistically they commit far less crimes than U.S. citizens. They’re not taking jobs that U.S. citizens want. We should make it as easy as possible for someone who wants to come into this country to work to get a work visa.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280974-gary-johnson-trumps-immigration-plans-are-insanity

    ...or more simply, Johnson is a bald faced liar who has issues with law abiding citizens, to include not caring about when they are injured, maimed, raped, or killed.

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  13. Britain Is Going To Leave The EU

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-poll-brexit-leave-campaign-10-point-lead-remain-boris-johnson-nigel-farage-david-a7075131.html

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    Our MENSA candidate from Ohio offers us this...

    I would say that when it comes to arabs RIOTING?

    You really don't KNOW jack shit.


    To which I say...

    Arabs rioting? Is that any different than Israelis rioting?


    And to compare crowd control verses low intensity warfare?

    So you are saying the Israelis are engaged in warfare against the Palestinians, guns against rocks. Hardly cricket, old man.

    But I must agree it must be so, otherwise the actions of the IDF would be uniform when it came to ALL disturbances in the WB not just those of the Palestinians.

    Tell me, how many settler youths have been shot by the IDF for throwing stones?

    I tried to look it up but couldn't find any examples. Googled "IDF shoots stone throwing settler youths". Got zip. Went three pages deep. What is that 30 or so links? Here’s what I got on the first page.

    • Palestinian stone-throwing - Wikipedia, the free...
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_stone-th...
    ... Human Rights Watch documented early that IDF soldiers were shooting stone throwing ... youths throw stones, ... IDF stands idly by as settlers throw stones ...



    {...}

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    1. {...}


      • WATCH: IDF stands idly by as settlers throw stones...
      www.jpost.com/National-News/WATCH-IDF-stands-idly-by-...
      Jun 03, 2016 · ... IDF stands idly by as settlers throw stones at ... four settler youth with cloth ... throwing stones, B’Tselem said. The IDF shoot tear gas ...


      Idf Shoots Stone Throwing Settler Youths - Video Results
      (Various videos of IDF shooting Palestinians)


      • Israelis celebrate video of sniper shooting...
      electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/...
      Israelis celebrate video of sniper shooting Palestinian youth. ... Today' has broadcast footage on its news programme of Israeli settlers throwing stones at ...


      • Israeli Soldiers Did Nothing to Stop Stone-...
      • www.haaretz.com
      • › Israel News
      The IDF said the soldiers shot gas canisters to disperse the youths, ... The videos do show masked settlers throwing stones at Palestinians, ... Haaretz.com, the ...


      WATCH: Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers...
      972mag.com/watch-israeli-police-let-stone-t...
      ... Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers ... still throwing stones when Israeli police ... prevented the Palestinian youths from throwing stones, by


      • Settlers filmed shooting at Palestinian...
      www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18149573
      May 20, 2012 · ... while Jewish settlers open fire on stone-throwing ... Settlers filmed shooting at ... when the settlers began shooting." The Israeli ...


      • WATCH: Israeli Settler Shoots at Palestinians...
      • www.haaretz.com
      • › Israel News
      ... Israeli Settler Shoots at ... some Palestinian youths arrive at the scene and start throwing rocks ... measures to stop the settlers from throwing stones, ...


      • Jewish Israeli stone throwing - Wikipedia, the...
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Israeli_stone...
      Jewish Israeli stone throwing refers to Jewish Israelis throwing stones, either by settlers at Palestinians, ...


      Settlers, Amongst IDF Soldiers Shoot at...
      www.loonwatch.com/2012/05/settlers-amongst-idf...
      Settlers, Amongst IDF Soldiers Shoot at ... and threw stones at settlers, and Israeli forces ... not act to prevent the settlers from throwing stones and firing ..


      • License to Kill: Stone-throwing while Palestinian...
      972mag.com/license-to-kill-stone-throwing-whil...
      License to Kill: Stone-throwing while Palestinian ... Settlers throw stones at Palestinians as IDF ... has ever been shot by the IDF while throwing stones. ...



      Gee, this seems to point to the fact that it is you who are the moron or just lying on purpose.

      Which is it? Do you lie about this just to get a reaction? Or are you just plain stupid?


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    2. Might we be allowed to ask our failed Mensa candidate from Michigan when was the last time Israeli terrorists opened fire in a crowded Arabstinian café or market ?

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    3. Might we also ask our failed Mensa candidate from Michigan what has happened to the Christians of Bethlehem ?

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    4. Canadian court awards $13mn in frozen assets to ‘Iran terror’ victims


      Published time: 11 Jun, 2016 05:12

      A Canadian court has awarded $13 million in non-diplomatic assets seized from Iran to the families of Americans who died in several attacks globally, which had allegedly been sponsored by Tehran between 1983 to 2002.

      The judgment by the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, obtained by AFP on Friday, found Tehran responsible for financing and training Hamas and Hezbollah operatives, who carried out eight bombings or hostage-takings in Buenos Aires, Israel, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia over a period spanning nearly 20 years.

      “Terrorism is one of the world’s greatest threats,” Ontario Superior Court Justice Glenn Hainey said in his decision. “The broad issue before the court is whether Iran is entitled to immunity from the jurisdiction of Canadian courts for its support of terrorism.”

      The ruling for the $13 million payout does not affect Iran’s diplomatic property in Canada but does touch non-diplomatic properties and a list of frozen bank accounts. Tehran did not immediately comment on the court judgment.

      The suit was heard under the 2012 Justice for Victims of Terror Act, which allows the families' victims to collect damages from state sponsors of terror groups. In Canada, Iran is designated a sponsor of terrorism....

      https://www.rt.com/news/346193-canada-iran-assets-terror/

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      And then MENSA boy has the balls to put this up...

      I'd entertain another option, but that cannot be you are correct, because you simply are wrong.

      :o)

      Hilarious.

      You said this on the last stream...

      But maybe, if the current culture of arabs in Judea and Samaria could live to SHARE the land we could have peace.

      After all, there are 1.2 million arabs that live inside Israel as citizens.

      Why should jews be prevented from living anywhere?

      Oh, that's right, according to this blog's owner and Robert Fisk, jews should not be allowed to live freely, just in selected zones.



      I've said before, for someone so enamored with Israel you know jack shit about it.

      Learn to share? In the West Bank? Are you fucking nutz?

      Who do you think drew up the map of Areas A, B, and C? Hint,it sure as hell wasn't the Palestinians.

      Area C is under complete Israel military, administrative, and land management control. Area C represents over 60% of the entire West Bank. It contains most of the water and natural resources as well as the agricultural areas in the Jordan Valley which is 25% of the entire WB. The Palestinians can hardly even get work permits to work there. And now an MK in the Knesset is suggesting that Area C be absorbed by Israel and all Palestinians be kicked out.

      Area B military and security control is split between Israel and the PA. The PA is able to run the civil administration so in effect they operate as clerks for the Israeli military. An interesting side note, the PA police haven't the authority to arrest any Israelis in the WB.

      Only in Area A does the PA exercise nominal civil and security control.

      Area A

      "Area A (full civil and security control by the Palestinian Authority): initially, circa 3% of the West Bank, exclusive East Jerusalem (first phase, 1995).[7] As of 2013, Area A formally comprised about 18% of the West Bank.[1] The Israel Defense Forces, however, abolished the prohibition against entering Area A during Operation Defensive Shield in 2002 and enters the area regularly, mostly at night, to conduct raids to arrest suspected militants.[8] This area includes eight Palestinian cities and their surrounding areas (Nablus, Jenin, Tulkarem, Qalqilya, Ramallah, Bethlehem, Jericho and 80 percent of Hebron), with no Israeli settlements.[9] Entry into this area is forbidden to all Israeli citizens." (Wiki)

      Why should jews be prevented from living anywhere?

      Entry into Area A by Israeli citizens is forbidden by the IDF not the Palestinians.
      The Jews live were they want as long as Israel approves it, in fact, the Israeli government subsidizes the settlers living in the WB. Why is that? I mean citizens in Israel proper complain about the high prices; yet, the government pays the settlers to go to the WB.

      Oh, that's right, according to this blog's owner and Robert Fisk, jews should not be allowed to live freely, just in selected zones

      Man, you are friggin looney tunes.


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  15. Two years ago, they did not just shoot up a cafe, they bombed them:

    Between 8 July and 27 August, more than 2,100 Palestinians were killed in the Gaza Strip, along with 66 Israeli soldiers and seven civilians in Israel.

    The UN says the vast majority of Palestinian deaths are civilian. But figures from previous operations over the past six years in the densely populated Gaza Strip show it is not the first time civilians have paid a heavy price.

    The overwhelming majority of those killed were Palestinians.

    The UN says at least 2,104 Palestinian died, including 1,462 civilians, of whom 495 were children and 253 women.

    Life in Gaza
    * 1.8m people living in Gaza

    * 4,505 per square kilometer

    * 475,000 living in emergency shelters or with other families

    * 17,200 homes destroyed or severely damaged by Israeli attacks

    * 244 schools damaged


    An Israeli government official told the BBC that the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) had killed 1,000 "terrorists" during the assault on Gaza.

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      Sorry, you have to respond to the buffoon from Idaho, Deuce.

      I stopped responding to anything he puts up some time ago. I finally came to the realization it was a complete waste of time.

      He has the attention span of a gnat and the memory of an Alzheimer patient.

      Not worth the effort to respond to his idiocy.

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  16. Prior to that, Israeli ground troops went into Gaza in December 2008, as part of Operation Cast Lead. Around 1,391 Palestinians were killed, including an estimated 759 civilians, according to B'Tselem. Reports say this included 344 children and 110 women.

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  17. The Gazans should quit launching missiles into Israel.

    How the Gazans are able to do this is unclear as our failed Mensa candidate from Michigan has told us that Gaza has been annexed by Israel and is occupied by IDF troops.

    One can only conclude that IDF troops are totally incompetent occupiers.

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  18. Polling Fantasies - Much Polling Biased Against Trump

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/polling_fantasies_heavily_biased_against_trump.html

    There's a problem when a poll contains 10% more Democrats than Republicans, whose numbers are nearly even these days.

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  19. Israel’s IDF is a terrorist organization, by any objective evaluation.

    CASE IN POINT

    Tel Aviv shootings prompt Israel to revoke permits for Palestinians

    Israel Anschlag in Tel Aviv

    The decision to revoke the Palestinians' permits on Thursday came in response to one of the deadliest attacks carried out by Palestinians in recent months. Two gunmen opened fire in an open air market near the Israeli military headquarters on Wednesday night, killing four and wounding at least five others in the capital, Tel Aviv.

    Some 83,000 Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip will be affected by the suspension of permits.

    The decision was announced by the COGAT Israeli defense agency. Palestinians use the holy month to visit family members in Israel, attend prayers in Jerusalem and travel abroad from Tel Aviv airport.

    Israel has also suspended work permits for 204 of the attackers' relatives.

    The West Bank village of Yatta, home to the attackers, is also under lockdown by Israeli security, with no one allowed to leave or enter the village except in humanitarian or medical emergencies. The village has become a flashpoint for violence in recent months.

    NOTE:

    Collective punishment is a form of retaliation whereby a suspected perpetrator's family members, friends, acquaintances, sect, neighbors or entire ethnic group is targeted. The punished group may often have no direct association with the other individuals or groups, or direct control over their actions. In times of war and armed conflict, collective punishment has resulted in atrocities, and is a violation of the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions.

    During the Nazi occupation of Poland, the Germans applied collective responsibility: any kind of help given to a person of Jewish faith or origin was punishable by death, and that not only for the rescuers but also for their family.

    Israeli practice of demolishing the houses of Palestinians who are detained, suspected or convicted for crimes against them has also been alleged to be a form of collective punishment, as their family will be punished for their acts, if any, by losing their homes, in violation of international law.

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  20. At a minimum, the IDF is a thuggery of state financed prison guards, on a good day, amoral and on mostly bad days, recognized to be lawless.

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    1. Why cannot the West Bank Arabs sell their property to whomever they wish ?

      Why is there this restriction, on penalty of death ?

      Would many sell out and try to find a better life elsewhere ?

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  21. Israelis Have Human Rights Too


    Jonathan S. Tobin / June 10, 2016

    In the aftermath of the gruesome terrorist attack in Tel Aviv on Wednesday night that took the lives of four people, Israel’s government reacted with what any objective observer might consider restraint. While Palestinians celebrated this atrocity, the reaction from most Israelis was their characteristic to get on with normal life despite the threat of murder from those who wish their destruction. But faced with the possibility of more such attacks—cheered as they were by the Hamas government in Gaza and encouraged by the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, especially during Ramadan–Israel’s government did the sort of responsible thing any government would do. It not only sent troops to the part of the West Bank where the terrorists originated, it also revoked the permits of 83,000 Palestinians to visit Israel during the holiday. The purpose of these moves was to do everything possible to prevent another bloody terrorist incident while avoiding the sort of action that might set off a general conflict with Hamas.

    But predictably, Israel’s actions brought down upon it the opprobrium of the United Nations. In Geneva on Friday, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra’ad al-Hussein said the cancellation of the permits amounted to “collective punishment” of Palestinians that violate international law. Though it was accompanied it with a pro forma condemnation of terrorism, the statement also said Israel’s actions would, “increase the sense of injustice and frustration felt by Palestinians.”

    While the issue of collective punishment is a thorny legal issue in a time of war, the U.N.’s reflexive attack on Israel shows again not only the bias of the world body against the Jewish state but also demonstrates the double standard by which it is judged. When it comes to the Palestinians, defense of their human rights apparently mandates that they be allowed to cross borders with impunity. But when it comes to Israelis, the human right to live in peace and security is not high on the U.N.’s priority list....

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/foreign-policy/middle-east/israel/israelis-have-human-rights-too-terror/


    The article goes on to describe how it is the policy of not only Hamas but the PA too to eventually genocide the Israelis.

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  22. Jonathon Tobin! Do you even bother to look at your sources?

    Jonathan S. Tobin, senior online editor of Commentary, a neocon dream sheet.

    Tobin is the most “the most right-wing editor of a Jewish weekly in the US,” and has cheered on the benefits to Israeli interests by dragging the US into every Middle East war.

    He was candid about one thing:

    Tobin:

    Estimates of the amount of money Jews have donated to American politicians, parties, and causes are even less accurate than the loose estimates of Jewish votes, but there is little question that the figure is staggering. It is impossible to determine precisely the grand total contributed to only presidential candidates by individual Jewish donors, but it may well be as much or more than one third of all Democratic money and a lesser though still impressive percentage of the funds raised by Republicans…

    Nevertheless, even though Jewish votes are important, Americans should expect far more media attention paid to Jewish fundraising. Thus, the true audience for the Democrats’ massive effort to convince Jews that Obama has stayed true to Israel may well not be the Jewish electorate but the Democrats’ base of Jewish donors. Reports about how his stance on Israel may affect his ability to raise money for his reelection are mixed so far. Anecdotal evidence and quotes from fundraisers about declining enthusiasm for the president are everywhere. But the vast majority of Jewish bundlers for both parties are not typical swing voters. They are in fact the most intense partisans. Given the proven willingness of many liberal Jews to grade any Democrat’s performance on Israel on a steep curve, it may be that Obama’s fundraising will not be substantially affected.


    - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/03/commentary-says-amount-of-us-political-money-coming-from-jews-is-staggering/#sthash.ujFZ2aMG.dpuf

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  23. Your sources suck.

    Big mass shooting at some Orlando, Florida nightclub. Police bomb squad detonated something or other. One shooter is dead. May have been only one shooter. Lots of casualties....update from Police is coming....

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    1. You never source from anything that doesn't toe your line.

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    2. Though, to be honest, we all have that tendency.

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  24. It's looking as if we may have suffered another mass casualty "Q"Nit event.

    The Police at the just concluded presser called it 'domestic terrorism'.

    The identity of the dead shooter/terrorist has not been released.

    There seems to have been at least one explosive device involved, perhaps detonated by the Police after the shooter/terrorist was killed.

    Will continue to report.

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    1. No indication of Israeli involvement.

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    2. 30 hostages rescued.

      Estimated 20 dead still in nightclub.

      Something like 40 already at hospital.

      Police still searching club for IED's.

      Suspects car has been found and is being searched.

      Indications of 'Islamic terrorism'.

      Well organized, well planned....

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    3. 'may have leaning towards Islamic ideology' - Police statement -'extensive planning'

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    4. The above were FBI statements, not Police statements.

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    5. Every Police agency and alphabet Fed agency is on the scene.

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    6. Nightclub was a well know highly frequented gay nightclub.

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    7. Still no indication of any Israeli or domestic Jewish involvement.

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    8. Nightclub is The Pulse Nightclub, Orlando, Florida.

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    9. FBI: 'Allegations that suspect has made Islamist terrorist threats in the past'

      Looking like we may have yet another "Q"Nit here, one with considerably more victims than the San Bernardino "Q"Nit

      Israeli or domestic Jewish involvement is looking really unlikely now.

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    10. *Ramadan is a favorite time among muzzies to kill infidels, like all of us.

      **I've always advocated for stopping muzzie immigration to USA to protect us from these threats.

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    11. Dr. Sebastion Gorka has just urged us all to be aware of our surroundings and report any suspicious behavior to the Police. He says that if this had been done in San Bernardino many lives might have been saved.

      Quirk once poo pooed Sebastion Gorka.

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    12. Still no Israeli IDF terrorist involvement in his incident indicated in any way.

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    13. 'Indications shooter may not have been from Orlando'....don't know the source of this Fox News proclamation.

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    14. Shooter's name is now said to be Omar Mateen, Matine or something.

      Omar.

      Not Cowboy Bob "Lasso" Bordo, of Medford, Oregon.

      Seems to have some connection to Afghanistan.

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  25. I see nothing that confirms that this is Islamic terrorist. I would bet the farm it is the work of some deranged religious nut job. putting it into context:

    According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, the US last year suffered 372 mass shootings, defined as a single incident that kills or injures four or more people. Some 475 people were killed and 1,870 wounded.

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    1. Still no confirmation but the FBI did use the term Islamic.

      Don't bet your farm on it.

      A suicide vest or bomb device is a 'leading indicator'.

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    2. No comment about this?

      According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, the US last year suffered 372 mass shootings, defined as a single incident that kills or injures four or more people. Some 475 people were killed and 1,870 wounded.

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    3. I'll comment on the two or three Wio posts that seem to have 'gone missing'.

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    4. If you do not want your posts to go missing don’t attach them to Wio.

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    5. Yeah when you can't compete in the world of ideas?

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      PUSSY

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  26. Orlando, Florida (CNN)Approximately 20 people are dead inside Pulse nightclub, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Sunday morning, just hours after a shooter opened fire in the club. At least 42 people have been transported for medical treatment, he said.

    Police have shot and killed the gunman, Mina told reporters.

    “It's appears he was organized and well-prepared," the chief said, adding that the shooter had an assault-type weapon, a handgun and "some type of (other) device on him."

    Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror. The FBI is involved.

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  27. Bob,

    You are one sick puppy. Your breathless excitement over the mass killing and rabid desire that the shooter be Islamic is appalling. All because you hope to make a point against Quirk. You are a sad man.

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    1. Smirk, nothing breathless about it, but I am trying to make a point against that moron Quirk, I do admit that. Quirk is always poo pooing this sort of thing.

      By contrast, I have getting damned tired of it.

      And I am trying to make the point that our nation would do well to shut off moslem immigration to make ourselves safer.

      I support that proposal wholeheartedly.

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  28. Orlando authorities said they consider the violence an act of domestic terror. The FBI is involved. While investigators are exploring all angles, they "have suggestions the individual has leanings towards (Islamic terrorism), but right now we can't say definitely," said Ron Hopper, assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's Orlando bureau.

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  29. Drudge removed his “breathless excitement” banner about Islamic Terrorism. The Republic stands tall because the mass killer, like 99% of US mass killers, is not Islamic. God bless America.

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  30. What does the name 'Omar' indicate to you, Deuce ?

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    1. About the same as the millions of Hispanics named Jesus.

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    2. Hispanics named Jesus don't do lots of out and out terrorism.

      Drugs, gang wars, that sort of thing, but not Christian terrorism.

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  31. Let’s hear it from the “In our thoughts and our prayers” crowd, but not one of them will mention the real common factor in any and all of this absurd “All American" slaughter

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    1. I'll step up and name the real common factor - 'religiously' motivated Islamic terrorism and supremacy....Sharia Law.

      It's Ramadan.

      Best month to slaughter infidels.

      Great month to slaughter gays.

      For 'Allah'.

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  32. We just buried an All American icon named Muhammad Ali and there were 100,000 at his funeral.

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    1. If the shooter turns out to be some Islamic fanatic, it only proves my point that 15 years of the US killing Muslims in Muslim countries will not have a happy ending.

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    2. The slaughter commenced with 9/11.

      And before, actually.

      That was the second attack on the World Trade Center, not the first.

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  33. "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" - The Merchant of Venice -SCENE I. Venice. a street., William Shakespeare

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  34. No comment about this?

    According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, the US last year suffered 372 mass shootings, defined as a single incident that kills or injures four or more people. Some 475 people were killed and 1,870 wounded.

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    1. Not really, because you are just trying to deflect attention from the recent slaughter which does seem now to be Islamic Terrorism.

      Omar - suicide vest - mass shooting - Ramadan - link to Afghanistan....doesn't seem to be an incident of 'work place violence'

      Press conference in 10 minutes - we should know more after that....

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    2. Marco Rubio is tweeting that blood donations are immediately needed in the area hospitals....

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  35. This is a big country (320 Million.) We had more people killed last year by toddlers getting hold of their mothers' guns than were killed at San Bernardino.

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  36. Deuce ☂Sun Jun 12, 09:51:00 AM EDT
    We just buried an All American icon named Muhammad Ali and there were 100,000 at his funeral.

    The talent show generated not just the usual hype but the most amazing and scary statistic of 2012:
    132 million people voted in American Idol

    Who cares?

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  37. A gay bar in the early morning hours? Sounds like Omar might have been on the wrong corner of the old "love trangle," to me. :)

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    1. Moslems hate and kill gays, and you make light of it.

      Hardy de har har har

      Jesus !

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    2. Moslems? Plural? Have you any support for your suggestion that there was more than one shooter?

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    3. Ash you must learn to read English....

      BobSun Jun 12, 10:36:00 AM EDT
      Moslems hate and kill gays, and you make light of it.

      Moslems do hate gays.

      They hang them in Iran, execute them in Gaza, throw them from rooftops in Egypt.

      Now if bob had said: "Those moslem SHOOTERS at the gay bar" you might have a point.

      But usually it's to apologize for the murderous actions of moslems.

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  38. 50 dead, 53 injured in the hospital in this "Q"Nit.

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