News World news AlgeriaMr Marlboro: the jihadist back from the 'dead' to launch Algerian gas field raidMokhtar Belmokhtar is allegedly behind Ansema kidnapping, with possible motive being strained relations with fellow warlordsMokhtar Belmokhtar aka Mr. Marlboro...an in depth look at the cigarette smuggling jihadi.....http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/17/mokhtar-belmokhtar-algeria-hostage-crisis
What kind of cigarettes does Barky Belbarky smoke? -Marlboro
It's actually funny....Watching the islamic world burn that is..by their own hands with the help of their biggest supporter...B Obama...
Schadenfreude's a bitch, isn't it?When Jacque Chirac was president, the French did everything they could to torpdeo our efforts in Iraq. They refused to send troops to fight Saddam and continuously opposed us in NATO councils.Now, suddenly - France needs help in Mali. And no one is lifting a finger to help them.http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/french_begging_for_troops_to_fight_islamists_in_mali.html
Jail for teacher who hugged, kissed student6:52 AMManti Te'o interviews raise more questions Woman whose skirt scandalized Wimbledon dies Algeria: Nearly 100 of 132 hostages freed8:18 AMAcid thrown at Bolshoi ballet artistic director6:48 AMUC won't raise 2013-14 tuition Poisoned lottery winner being exhumed8:05 AMDeLorean hovercraft spotted near GG Bridge NYPD: Boy, 7, brought gun to school
OK, you lazy shits, here's the links:Jail for teacher who hugged, kissed studentManti Te'o interviews raise more questionsAlgeria: Nearly 100 of 132 hostages freedAcid thrown at Bolshoi ballet artistic directorPoisoned lottery winner being exhumedNYPD: Boy, 7, brought gun to school
DOH!Left out8:05 AMDeLorean hovercraft spotted near GG Bridge---So if DeLorean gives you a hard on,Look it up Asshole.That's what he was, or is.
Among the 23 “executive actions” President Obama announced yesterday amidst great fanfare (and shameless exploitation of children) is this:“Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.”Obama may want to put a hold on that one, until he comes to grips with what happened the last time a U.S. president tried it.During the late ’70s, President Jimmy Carter and his inner circle determined to push through comprehensive new federal gun-control legislation. They decided the best way to grease the congressional skids would be to have a massive scientific study conducted which, in the end, would proclaim that gun-control laws were effective in reducing crime.So the Carter folks handed out a major gun-control research grant to University of Massachusetts sociology professor James D. Wright and his colleagues Peter Rossi and Kathleen Daly. They spent four years and lots of tax dollars to produce what would be the most comprehensive, critical study of gun control ever undertaken. In 1981, they published the results of their research – an exhaustive, three-volume work titled “Under the Gun.”There was only one problem.Their findings, summarized starkly by co-author Wright, were that “Gun control laws do not reduce crime.”“When Wright, Rossi and Daly produced their report for the National Institute of Justice, they delivered a document quite different from the one they had expected to write,” explained David Kopel, research director of the Independence Institute and co-author of the law school textbook, “Firearms Law and the Second Amendment.” “Carefully reviewing all existing research to date, the three scholars found no persuasive scholarly evidence that America’s 20,000 gun-control laws had reduced criminal violence.”Among their many findings:The landmark federal Gun Control Act of 1968, banning most interstate gun sales, had no discernible impact on the criminal acquisition of guns from other states. Detroit’s law providing mandatory sentences for felonies committed with a gun was found to have no effect on gun-crime patterns. Washington, D.C.’s 1977 ban on the ownership of handguns (except those already registered in the District) was not linked to any reduction in gun crime in the nation’s capital. Polls claiming to show that a large majority of the population favored “more gun control” were debunked as being the product of biased questions, and of the fact that most people have no idea how strict gun laws already are. “As the scholars frankly admitted, they had started out their research as gun-control advocates,” said Kopel, “and had been forced to change their minds by a careful review of the evidence.”
Well, yeah, sure, if you have such simple tepid laws they aren't going to do anything now are they?
What would you suggest, Ash?
Yes, but still:Those pictures of our Maximum Leader with the kids?PRICELESS!
I haven't thought about it too much Gag but if you went after the manufacturers then you might have more effect. Off the top of my head you could limit what manufacturers could legal make and what they do make you can build in and document unique identifiers to help law enforcement.But a law in one state will not do much at all if a person can amble across the border to another state. Heck, even when there are patroled borders (i.e. Canada/US) the laws of Canada are easily cirumvented by those who source the weapons in the great gun bazaar of the US.
...not to mention those who seek superior HEALTHCARE in the (once) GREAT USA!
.So, basically, you haven'y a clue. Ash?.
I gave you two clues there Quirkster but I guess you aren't much of a detective.
Ash,manufacturers dont kill people, people kill people. You cannot legally buy a gun out of state without legally transferring the gun from the out of state dealer to a dealer in your state. That one's on the books also. A Canadian cannot legally buy a gun in the U. S. unless they have a permit and license. Then it is up to the discretion of the gun dealer.
If you don't allow them to make them then you can't buy them.
As often noted by many of you - a piece of legislation, a law, won't stop a law breaker from buying one, especially if they just stroll to a different jurisdiction where they can.
There are well over 300 million non military firearms in the U.S. There are no expiration dates on them for freshness. They do not rot. They do not burn out. The fast majority of those are legally owned. When everything else is gone, there will only be cock roaches, coyotes, and guns laying around. If not another firearm changed hands in the US, those that want them would still have them. As I mentioned, you cannot just stroll to another jurisdicion. Law breakers already have guns.A much more effective move would be to create a national register of those who regularly see Psychologists, Psychiatrists, Psycho-analysts, etc. The ones they regard as dangerous need to not be walking free among us.Obama did not mention this when he was standing behind his human shield.
.Likewise, identifying ammo isn't going to stop someone like the Newtown shooter. He expected to die going in..
Yes, preventing folk like the Newtown shooter from doing his thing is a tough nut and I don't think gun control will do much in that regard (maybe limiting high capacity magazines might make it a bit tougher for them to kill a lot). No, I think gun control would have more utility in limiting crimes of passion - you know, a person gets angry or afraid, has a gun and uses it. Then there are all those gang bangers exercising their 2nd amendment rights - silly!Yes Gag, Americans have let loose many millions of firearms and it may not be possible to stuff that genie back in the bottle. Most firearms pose little problem especially in rural settings. Packing a glock in your pants in downtown New York is a different story.
Oh, and gag, your idea about a national register of folk who MIGHT commit a crime is, well, awfully damn Orwellian.
"Packing a glock in your pants in downtown New York is a different story"Like I said elsewhere: You tell me how low the murder rates are in Chicago and DC w/their strict gun controls!
Fast-forward to the late ’80s, when the women of Orlando, Fla., were terrified of being sexually attacked, since 33 women had already been raped in just one nine-month period. After people began flocking to gun stores to protect themselves, the Orlando Sun-Sentinel newspaper got together with the police to offer a firearms safety course.It was all very well publicized. Everybody knew that in Orlando there were 6,000 women who had handguns and knew how to use them. The result was that in the following nine-month period, there were only three rapes. In addition, crime in general declined. The fact is, Orlando, Fla., was the only U.S. city with a population of over 100,000 that had a reduction in crime that year.In fact, it is not only Orlando that experienced a dramatic decrease in crime. After the 1987 Florida right-to-carry legislation, homicide, firearm homicide and handgun homicide rates all decreased. Eight of Florida’s 10 largest cities experienced drastic decreases in homicide rates from 1987 through 1995: Jacksonville, down 46 percent; Miami, down 13 percent; Tampa Bay, down 24 percent; Orlando, down 41 percent; Fort Lauderdale, down 53 percent; Hollywood, down 30 percent; Clearwater, down 21 percent; and Miami Beach down an incredible 93 percent.Opponents of Florida’s right-to-carry legislation claimed their state would become known as the “Gunshine State.” But the last quarter century’s actual experience (as of mid-2011, Florida has issued a total of 2,031,106 concealed-carry permits under the 1987 law) proves Florida’s trailblazing program to fight crime has been a tremendous success. As U.S. Sen. Orin Hatch, R- Utah, put it: “The effect of that legislation on state crime rates has been astonishing. The predictions of the gun-control advocates were wrong, flat wrong.”But no matter. Politicians and others intent on restricting or eliminating firearms ownership ignore mountains of evidence, virtually all of which points to the same conclusion – that guns in the hands of responsible, law-abiding citizens always, in all places and times, result in a safer, more secure and more civilized society.Therefore, if the Centers for Disease Control, at Obama’s direction, actually conducts honest research – and that’s a magnum-caliber “if” – it will arrive at the same conclusion as Jimmy Carter’s research team: Their basic premise is wrong.Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/how-obamas-gun-order-will-backfire/#A4hwuqBCbPF4CpLs.99
Workers at Rosehill Cemetery in Chicago begin the process of exhuming the body of Urooj Khan who was poisoned with cyanide after winning the lottery. Khan died in July as he was about to collect $425,000 in lottery winnings. His death was initially ruled a result of natural causes, but a relative pressed for a deeper look and his death was reclassified as a homicide.CHICAGO (AP) — The body of a Chicago man who was poisoned with cyanide after winning the lottery was exhumed Friday for another autopsy that authorities hope will help solve the mystery surrounding his death. A black hearse escorted by four police cars carried away the body of Urooj Khan from a cemetery on the city's North Side shortly after 9 a.m., and the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office was expected to perform the autopsy immediately, spokeswoman Mary Paleologos said. She said examiners will take blood, tissue, bone, hair and nail samples. They'll also examine the lungs, liver, spleen and contents of the stomach and intestines. Paleologos said tests on Khan's organs also may determine whether the poison was swallowed, inhaled or injected. The autopsy was expected to be finished by Friday afternoon, though it will take two to three weeks to get test results, she said. Khan, 46, died in July as he was about to collect $425,000 in lottery winnings. His death initially was ruled a result of natural causes. But a relative asked for further tests, which revealed he was poisoned. Khan's wife, Shaana Ansari, and other relatives have denied any role in his death and expressed a desire to learn the truth. Authorities remain tightlipped about whom they may suspect. Khan had come to the U.S. from his home in Hyderabad, India, in 1989, setting up several dry-cleaning businesses and buying into some real-estate investments. Despite having foresworn gambling after a pilgrimage to Mecca in 2010, Khan bought a ticket in June. He jumped "two feet in the air" and shouted, "I hit a million," he recalled at a lottery ceremony later that month. He said winning the lottery meant everything to him and that he planned to use his winnings to pay off mortgages, expand his business and donate to St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital. He was just days from receiving his winnings when he died before dawn on July 20. The night before, Khan ate dinner with his wife, daughter and father-in-law in their house in Chicago's North Side neighborhood of West Rogers Park, home to many immigrants from India and Pakistan. Sometime that night, Khan awoke feeling ill and collapsed as he tried to get up from a chair, his wife has said, according to the Chicago Sun-Times. With no outward sign of trauma, authorities initially determined Khan had died of natural causes. But a concerned relative — whose identity remains a mystery — came forward with suspicions and asked authorities to take a closer look. Further toxicology tests found a lethal amount of cyanide in his blood, leading the medical examiner in November to reclassify the death a homicide. Khan died without a will, opening the door to a court battle. The businessman's widow and siblings fought for months over his estate, including the lottery check.
The damned irony of it is overwhelming, I tell you!"Despite having foresworn gambling after a pilgrimage to Mecca in 2010, Khan bought a ticket in June. He jumped "two feet in the air" and shouted, "I hit a million," he recalled at a lottery ceremony later that month.He said winning the lottery meant everything to him and that he planned to use his winnings to pay off mortgages, expand his business and donate to St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital.He was just days from receiving his winnings when he died before dawn on July 20."
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The guy Gaging guy said:"It was all very well publicized. Everybody knew that in Orlando there were 6,000 women who had handguns and knew how to use them. The result was that in the following nine-month period, there were only three rapes. In addition, crime in general declined. The fact is, Orlando, Fla., was the only U.S. city with a population of over 100,000 that had a reduction in crime that year.In fact, it is not only Orlando that experienced a dramatic decrease in crime. After the 1987 Florida right-to-carry legislation, homicide, firearm homicide and handgun homicide rates all decreased. Eight of Florida’s 10 largest cities experienced drastic decreases in homicide rates from 1987 through 1995: Jacksonville, down 46 percent; Miami, down 13 percent; Tampa Bay, down 24 percent; Orlando, down 41 percent; Fort Lauderdale, down 53 percent; Hollywood, down 30 percent; Clearwater, down 21 percent; and Miami Beach down an incredible 93 percent."---Coincidence does don't prove causation.Don't fuck my mind up w/the Truth, please.
Especially if folk start citing stats indicating how much more likely a US person is going to die by firearms as opposed to anywhere else in the developed world.
let's see those stats. More people die from car collisions than guns and abortions. But many on this blog don't think a life is worth saving until the kid is in little league.
Here you go Gag. Complete with nice big graphics to make it easy to understand:http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/gallery/p2p-74023426/?related=truePeople don't die from abortions but a collection of cells unable to survive outside their mothers bodies do.
That didnt come out right. more people die from car collisions and abortions than guns.your link wont open.By the way, a stat that is headed: someone or something IS MORE LIKEY is not a stat, just merely conjecture.
.Moral relativism. Ignore life's potential and opt for convenience.Newspeak. Redefine life and it goes away..
That's a slippery slope Quirk - ignore life's potential as resides in the sperm, the ovum, the zygote and on you go. Sure, life starts at conception but there are many forms of life. A key factor in all this is the host, the woman, and her right to do what she likes with her body. Once that life is able to survive outside of its mother, well, then you have a right to foist its care upon the state, but until then, it is the mothers right to choose.
Gag,My comment about abortions still stands. Yes, more people die in car collisions then by guns, I'll accept that assertion of yours. So, what relevance does that have to our discussion? Law makers have worked hard to make death from car less likely. You support that don't you? But you don't for guns. Odd.How about this for a stat Gag, More americans die by gun by a large margin than in other developed countries. Nice clickable link for you
.Foist it's care upon the state?You ignore the fact that those who oppose abortion are now being forced to pay for those abortions. There are about 1.25 million abortions performed in the US every year. Many of those by repeat offenders. First, we are asked to pay for contraceptives. Then when some don't want to take the time or trouble to use them, we are asked to pay for the mistakes.But the economic argument is beside the point. By arguing that a child is merely a tumor or piece of meat until after it is born (and sometimes even beyond birth) you open yourself up to that same slippery slope you mentioned, the moral relativism I mentioned. Now 'ethicists' are arguing that even after a child is born since it has not yet reached a fully developed state is has no value and can be killed.I suspect Moses, Aristotle, Alexander Hamilton, Tolstoy, Bach, Steve Jobs, John Lennon, Rousseau, Kepler, Wordsworth, et al, orphans all might argue with your definitions. .
I try to avoid the slippery slope by arguing that, yes, it is a life, but like the issues surrounding artificial life support for folk residing with their living wills, their family, and their doctors, so too does the mother have the right to choose what happens to that life that is totally dependant upon her which does not extend past birth, but, in reality well before normal term. The current up until the 1rst trimester option seems a reasonable, though still arbitrary, point at which SHE has the right to make the call.
In typical Tribune fashion, not to mention NYT and Huffpo, they picked and chose the countries with low numbers to bolster their argument. How about a graph that shows other countries as well? What about Mexico, Central America, and South America? How about Asia? Let's also see a graph of percentage of blacks in those countries in your graph. I know that goes against your PC feelings, but it is proven the vast majority of gun related homicides in the US are in Black communities.
ah, so it is you who made the posts under the cover of anonimity of the high proportion of blacks skewing the data. Have at it if you think that a reasonable argument. I guess blacks shouldn't then be allowed to own guns but whites can?My statements were about developed countries and that is what the graph deals with. Yes, it would be interesting to see how the US compares to, what would you call those other countries?, your peers? I'd like to see the numbers compared to Somalia, Mexico and Central America. Would be interesting to see how the US stacks up.
I have never posted anything under any other name than Gag.I think any law abiding citizen, regardless of color, creed, or hair syle, should be able to legally own any firearm they want. If they want an 80 round magazine to go in it, I am ok with that too. And I don't really care how are statistics stack up against other countries, developed or not. I really don't.By the way, Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns have. :-)Big Pharm has killed more people than my guns have.Obama's drones have killed more people than my guns have.
Are - our.
"does don't"...Maybe it's time for bed?It is 7-15 am, afterall.
7:20...here, that is.
Anybody got any"Bring your wife back from the grave tricks?"If so, thanx, in advance.
No...But when I breathe with the birds,The spirit of wrath becomes the spirit ofblessing,And the dead begin from their dark to singin my sleep.—Theodore Roethke...but sometimes you might hear her singing to you.
...or more accurately:Back from the ashes in the sea.
(not related to commenter "Ash")
Dougthere are no such tricks. I did that search years ago. go to bed.
I haven't thought about it too much Gag but if you went after the manufacturers then you might have more effect.Been tried.Court cases.Next.(Think, can I sue the maker of the steak knife if my wife stabs me?)
I wonder if my wife could sue Ash if I were to die from,from, what? disgust, laughter, despair...what is the word for those three words in one word?...after reading nonsense from Ash.Intellectual paralysis, but that is two words.Death from Ashian intellectual paralysis.
A tough way to go.
AshFri Jan 18, 02:43:00 PM EST"ah, so it is you who made the posts under the cover of anonimity of the high proportion of blacks skewing the data. Have at it if you think that a reasonable argument. I guess blacks shouldn't then be allowed to own guns but whites can?"Gag said:"blah, blah, blah..."---Don't listen to his denials and deceptions, Ash:While what he said is true, it's what he left out that's important:He and I have been butt-brothers since birth, or, more accurately, since we were pre-viable embryos, slime, as it (we) were:He is addicted (dicted, get it?)to my ass, and always will be.But it is not just a one way street from his reproductive glands into the final pathway of my digestive system:In return, I have complete control over what he says and does.It was I that brought up black skewing and screwing, but your confusion is well-founded:Their is a fusion in our minds and thoughts, so you are forgiven for your paranoia about either of us being Pseudos, as so many other are here.
The poster did it as anon. That was you?
As Gag declared, so do I:I've always tried to remain Doug.Maybe an accident?...I'll go back and check.If so, my apology in advance....as if you deserve one.
I cannot find it:Please past the thread's urlThanx,Flushable Slimeball(my FIRST pseudo)
You, Doug, are just a confused old fart who is having trouble keeping up. Maybe if you got some sleep and tried to think about what you read it might help. Then again, as you have admitted, maybe you were just conceived dumb.
"I guess blacks shouldn't then be allowed to own guns but whites can?""---Now I remember why I treated you so badly @BC:I'd read reams of your arguments with Buddy Larsen, and my sole reaction was this:"Don't waste your (super) valuable brain cycles on this nonsense dispenser:It's hopeless."You are.You are stupider than Dennis Miller on Newtown,You are stupider than...Buddy: Give it up, it's hopeless.Buddy's buddy Dougie Buttfucked:"Yeah, you're right, I should be getting some righteous cock.This is a waste, and I'm not talkin human waste,BRAIN WAVE WASTE"
Doug,Rarely do you offer an argument, a reason, to support your opinion, rather, you foam at the mouth launching ad hominem spew. It may have upset Rufus and DRR but I don't give a shit.The last bunch of days have been the boob and Doug show at the EB. Deja vu all over again and it isn't a pleasant deja vu. You and boob, two peas in a pod.
Hey, what do expect from a few racist, homophobic, close-minded, stupid hicks?What do you expect?We were CONCEIVED this way.Worthless matter.Flush it.
Your stupidity is genetic, ok if you say so. You and b00b shall swirl down to where you desire.
I'm going to do The Dougieand dance this frustration right out of my SOUL.(I don't allow myself to carry, since I have one)ta ta
Geeze, the power of brainwashing is greater than I could ever have imagined.Glad my dad wasn't a perfesser.
The Neocons, their stooges in Congress and the Bush Administration have done about as much damge to the US as is possible. Daily, it gets worse:In the long inventory of unintended consequences of America’s “war on terror”, recent events in Mali must count among the most embarrassing boomerangs.The country, which had little strategic value to the US before 9/11, gained some attention for the democratic transition it underwent following a 1992 coup.But it was not until after the September 11 attacks in 2001 that Mali was identified by Washington among other weak states in the soft and lawless underbelly of the Sahara desert, known as the Sahel, as vulnerable to jihadist influence spreading south from the Maghreb, in particular from neighbouring Algeria.Events this week in Algeria, where Islamic militants took dozens of western hostages at a gas plant, and last week in Mali where France was forced to step in to prevent an Islamist takeover of the capital, Bamako, have underlined how right Washington was to be concerned and just how ineffectual subsequent strategies to contain the problem were.To the dismay of the US, junior Malian officers trained as part of $620m pan-Sahelian counter-terrorism initiative launched in 2002 to help four semi-desert states resist Islamic militancy took part in a coup in March last year. Others among them defected to the Tuareg revolt that eventually led to a coalition of Islamist militias, allied with Algerian militants from al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, capturing the northern two-thirds of Mali.Potentially, these US-trained officers are now using US counter-insurgency knowhow against France’s intervention force.“It is a great failure,” says Dr Berny Sèbe, an expert in Franco-African relations at the University of Birmingham. “Some of them defected. Others organised a coup.”
I've never given a crap about Africa, writing it off as a waste, since obviously all our "aide" has accomplished nothing but to make matters worse.I had also written off Nicholas Kristof, since mostly he writes worthless craptrap.Also largely written off Hugh Hewitt as a hopeless Republican Beltway Super Intellectual phoney conservative.BUT...I just heard the two of them:Kristof has been there countless times.Hewitt asked him for his solution.He said: "Education"But he was not talking higher ed, or any of those other things that we have afflicted on Africa, in the name of helping them, but basic LOW LEVEL stuff like literacy, etc.Couldn't hurt....or at least less likely to hurt than all the other crap and food and etc we've "helped" them with.Who knows:Maybe it could even help?
"claptrap"(but hey, craptrap ain't bad)...except it violates my oath of eternal fealty to non-fecalty.
This is really truly bizarre. This is really stretching the Blame Bush stuff to its breaking point.The Neocons, their stooges in Congress and the Bush Administration ... sounds exactly like Rufus, or that Daily Cos/Kos or whatever it is.By the way, where is Rufus? Not that the break isn't wonderful.Doug,Rarely do you offer an argument, a reason, to support your opinion, rather, you foam at the mouth launching ad hominem spew. It may have upset Rufus and DRR but I don't give a shit.The last bunch of days have been the boob and Doug show at the EB. Deja vu all over again and it isn't a pleasant deja vu. You and boob, two peas in a pod.What a guy, striking out at ad hominems while calling names.Bwahahahahaha
Jeeze, Gag's advice to go to bed worked, but now what do I do???Maybe the beach...Almost forgot what that's like.
The media campaigned for Obama as the big peace-maker and told us how he was going to single-handedly make the nutters love us. Well, that was a predictable failure. What fools bought that line?The jews are still evicting the local population and building settlements for Europeans. Very sad and very evil. Obama is too afraid or too "political" to intervene.I fear that Obama could be tricked into a war with Iran if the jews put the right kind of pressure on congress and his administration. I am not a fan of how Israel and their lobby influence the U.S. to do things not in our national interest.
Ash knows it's you, WIO, give it up.
Oy, another example of Doug's confusion......or delusion is more appropriate. A candidate for Gags list.
Libs aren't known for their sense of humor.
A pro bike coach called Limbaugh to give some background on Lance A-Hole:Greg Lemond tried to out him from the begining... and of course got trashed.I saw Greg at a Race around Truckee back in the day.Miller thinks the worst thing he did was defame and sue so many telling the truth.I tend to agree, but he's minute compared to Bill, Hillary, and BHO in that regard.
Stop using ad hominems, Ashole, you shit faced dog.Doug,Rarely do you offer an argument, a reason, to support your opinion, rather, you foam at the mouth launching ad hominem spew. It may have upset Rufus and DRR but I don't give a shit.The last bunch of days have been the boob and Doug show at the EB. Deja vu all over again and it isn't a pleasant deja vu. You and boob, two peas in a pod.What a guy, striking out at ad hominems while calling names.Bwahahahahaha
Wasn't me either whatever it was, cause I don't know what you are talking about.I blame it on that shit faced dog, Ashole.
Anybody here partake of the social internets?Who is the bigger liar from Hawaii, Manti Te'o or BHO?
Not a serious question of course, Manti Te'o is still young.Some day he may grow up to be POTUS.I assume he's not pure white, so that would be a plus.
AshFri Jan 18, 09:39:00 PM EST"You, Doug, are just a confused old fart who is having trouble keeping up. Maybe if you got some sleep and tried to think about what you read it might help. Then again, as you have admitted, maybe you were just conceived dumb."---Thanks for the help:You brought it up, I looked, but did not find, you'd rather not back up your allegation.The record stands.
Talked today with a guy that used to work on my combines sometimes. Part Umatilla, we were talking about the old days, Celilo Falls days. I'll be damned if he isn't in one of those very famous photos of the fishing on the falls, before it was slack watered. Mid-teens he was, at that time.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celilo_Falls
I didn't know you were into gymnastics.Have you shrunk to Nadia's size yet, you old fart?
How can you tell it's him, and which guy is it?
Recently he got a check from Unca Sam on that mismanagement of Indian funds case, and is hoping for more.Nowadays he wishes he were more Umatilla, pays better.
The stuff they used to build, with what they had, boggles the mind.Worthless old farts.
I may be a fart but I refuse to admit old.Speak for yourself, smelly geezer.
Hey!Ash is DISCRIMINATING based on age!Can we spell "projection" class?
Discrimination based on class a foregone conclusion:Dad's a perfesser.Yessir.
Ashole discriminates on sail size. Got to have the big jib to be in the club.
I'll put my dinghy up against his dinghy any day....but will NOT touch, and it must be in public.
On a separate note:I saw a video of a harvester bigger than I thot was possible recently.Hope I can find it.At the other end of the scale were these cool roto-tiller sized things in Japan. Looked like Hondas, but maybe just that well made.
Do you remember the make?Beats the scythe, I'll tell you.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythe
Did you ever use one?Didn't take long for that torture device to put my young Rufus Dreams to bed for keeps.I'm sure someone with better form could still impress us though.
I had John Deere 6602's.
The make, no!I was just passing through, guessed it was Russian, but what do I know?(don't answer for him, please, Ash)
It WAS green tho, now that I think about it, w/my slow, feeble, and febrile mind.
.To our friends in Idaho, the Great Escape from Mali was completed back on the Manufacturing Terrorists" stream..
Hamdoon looked sadly over at me, blowing smoke from his cigarette into the air, and running his hand through his thick hair. Sighing, he said, "Quirk is slipping again. Some of the things he says are making no sense.""And after all your effort, Hamdoon. I think you must know a little of how God must feel", I replied.
Thanks, I forgot to finish that.It was getting exciting when I checked out.(although Bob seems to have violated the rule to not give the ending away.)
.As I said, it is so easy.Cracking Blogger was easy, taking over Bob's personas simple, duplicating his inanities a little more difficult.Maybe that part about Hamdoon blowing smoke took it a little too far, that is after all Bob's forte. The only smoke Hamdoon has ever blown was out his ass, but of course, that was before his unfortunate demise.And speaking of Hamdoon, the question keeps returning, what were he and Bob doing together, where had they met, what were they doing holed up in some run-down hotel in Timbuktu? Why did they lure Chuck and me there on a false rescue mission and then sucker-punch me from behind and then attack Chuck? What would have happened to me and/or Chuck if they hadn't been completely wasted that night on the date-wine and kif?Well, Hamdoon, the more Butch of the two is gone now, his self-induced departure the result of drinking the rubbing alcohol. Luckily, Bob, the pretty-boy of the two, wasn't killed by drinking whatever small amount of isopropyl alcohol the big man had left him. However, his brain is fried, hopefully, not beyond repair.Well, if anyone can bring him back to some semblance of reality it's the medical staff at KATN. They've have him now. Hopefully, if he does recover, the agents there will find out his reasons for betraying an old friend his dog.In the meantime, as instructed, I will continue putting up the false posts under Bob various psuedonyms..
It might have been Russian. They make some monster combines.Could it have been this big fucker (that is the language we farmers use to describe such labor saving devices)http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=254824&DisplayType=flat&setCookie=1Same big fucker, under Versatile name -http://farmindustrynews.com/combines/special-report-versatile-shares-more-details-about-its-russian-combineMaybe this big fucker -http://www.history.com/shows/modern-marvels/videos/worlds-largest-combine#worlds-largest-combine40' headerDon't worry though, Deere is still going great -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZaGmBpIpiE
Fun times in the ancient Egyptian grain harvest -http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/harvesting_grain.htmAnd some morons want to go back to the earth!!
Life expectancy - 31 years.Burial site - where ever you drop.
Jack the Umatillan was telling of the time he was net fishing Celilo at night, which his father had told him never to do, so of course he did it, being young, and wise as all the young are, and snagged a sturgeon, and, the scaffolding collapsing, he held on for dear, dear life, and they found him the next day floating down by The Dalles, sturgeon still in net, Jack still hanging on to the scaffolding.The Narrows and The DallesFishing sites existed along the entire length of The Narrows. Russell Lee, September 1941.Celilo Falls itself was the first in a series of cascades and rapids known collectively as The Narrows or The Dalles, stretching for about 12 miles (19 km) downstream. Over that length, the river dropped 82 feet (25 m) at high water and 63 feet (19 m) at low water.Three miles (4.8 km) below Celilo Falls was a stretch of rapids known variously as the Short Narrows, Ten Mile Rapids, the Little (or Upper) Dalles, or Les Petites Dalles. These rapids were about 1 mile (1.6 km) long and 250 feet (76 m) wide. Ten miles (16 km) below Celilo Falls was another stretch of rapids, this one known as the Long Narrows, Five Mile Rapids, the Big (or Lower) Dalles, Les Grandes Dalles, or Grand Dalles. This stretch of rapids was about 3 miles (4.8 km) long, and the river channel narrowed to 75 feet (23 m). Immediately downstream were the Dalles Rapids (or Wascopam to the local natives), about 1.5 miles (2.4 km) long. Here the river dropped 15 feet (4.6 m) in a tumult much commented on by early explorers.The Long Narrows and the Dalles Rapids are sometimes grouped together under names such as Grand Dalles, Les Dalles, Big Dalles, or The Dalles. One early observer, Ross Cox, noted a three-mile "succession of boiling whirlpools". Explorer Charles Wilkes described it as "one of the most remarkable places upon the Columbia". He calculated that the river dropped about 50 feet (15 m) over 2 miles (3.2 km) here. During the spring freshet, the river rose as much as 62 feet (19 m), radically altering the nature of the rapids. Fur trader Alexander Ross wrote, "[The water] rushes with great impetuosity; the foaming surges dash through the rocks with terrific violence; no craft, either large or small, can venture there safely. During floods, this obstruction, or ledge of rocks, is covered with water, yet the passage of the narrows is not thereby improved."wiki
Jack recalling youthful adventures from '48.:)
Downtown Keystone, South Dakotahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone,_South_Dakota
Did you read "Sometimes a Great Notion" by Keysey?
Yes, saw the movie too. Great start to the movie, till come around the bend and there are the clearcuts.Kesey took the title from the song “Goodnight, Irene”, popularized by Lead Belly. Sometimes I lives in the country Sometimes I lives in town Sometimes I haves a great notion To jump into the river an’ drownhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sometimes_a_Great_NotionKesey got into some kind of auto accident I think, taking some kids to a wrestling tournament once, and some died, maybe a son or daughter. But that was after, I think.
I have a dim recollection of either reading about or hearing something of the kids.Really sad.He went to Stanford, and they were hardly literate is my fuzzy memory.
“One of the reasons for his drinking, Henry said, was John's mama used to make the whole family get down on their knees and pray like fury everytime John's daddy--Henry's first cousin, I believe--would come home boozed, and John never quite got it straight that they weren't thanking the good Lord for his blessing same as they did at the supper table. So according to Henry booze come to be sort of holy to him and with faith like that John grew up religious as a deacon.” "Humbolt" the movie has some scenes where a kid takes an ax to an old pickup behind the house.Turns out his dad was killed in it.When the Sheriff comes calling late one night, the mom knows before he says it that now the son has finished to job for himself.
When we'd go camping up there you'd read about plenty of deaths on those curvey mountain roads.Once we were camping at "Loon Lake" Oregon.Lot of partying and drinking going on, then things got real quiet:Word was spreading of two of the guys killing themselves in a Corvette.
Coos Bay DistrictForgot all about Coos Bay.Man I woulda been miserable.Constantly complaining about the rain, like Keysey writes about some fool.
Wow, they did a Movie of that w/Paul Neuman.I did not know that.
Hamdoon began to laugh, and then finishing his drink and laughing full throttle full body, he showed me this -Stealth Hoodie Hides Wearer From Droneshttp://news.discovery.com/tech/gear-and-gadgets/stealth-hoodie-hides-wearer-drones-130118.htm"Bob, Quirk wants us to buy four or five of these. I told him, 'Quirk, you must be joking', and he said 'o no not joking at all', with a hint of the fear and of the paranoia in his eyes.""O dear me. What did you say, Hamdoon?""I told him I'd pass it by the boys upstairs.""But, there are no boys upstairs.""Those are the boys that are going to deny Quirk's request."
“For there is always a sanctuary more, a door that can never be forced, a last inviolable stronghold that can never be taken, whatever the attack; your vote can be taken, you name, you innards, or even your life, but that last stonghold can only be surrendered. And to surrender it for any reason other than love is to surrender love."
The book my wife's friend gave me talks about finishing grieving.(she took a long time, became a shrink, wrote a book about it)Talks of things like looking at a picture and saying goodbye and meaning it.Maybe the trick would be to do that and not let go of the love.All beyond me at present.
I like your formulation better because no one can say goodbye and mean it or there wasn't anything there in the first place.Maybe could be improved even beyond that. If I find something really good I'll post. I got to go to bed.night doug
Here's that harvester, Bob.Any of your links that big?That first Russian one looks tiny, compared to this....I'll check out your World's largest link.
What do you think?That Cat Lexion Looks like it has an open horn intake into the Turbocharger.Maybe the whole engine compartment is sealed and filtered?
It's a GD modified Computer Simulation Game!
My link, that is.Nothing is real.
The Manti Te'o of Farming.Carolla once called Hawaiians the dumbest fuckers on Earth.Didn't endear him in the Aloha State.Manti could be used as evidence, as couldBarrack Hussein Obama, but he is obviously a mixed breed import, not a native.
They are undocumented immigrants, I tell you, not Illegals!Ill eagle is nothing but a sick bird.
Oops, Manti is Samoan.I take it all back, Manti.I was just kiddin, honest.
Manti Malietau Louis Te'o is a American collegiate football player of Samoan ancestry. He is a linebacker at the University of Notre Dame. Growing up on the island of Oahu, he was one of the most decorated high school athletes in Hawaii's history.Education: Punahou SchoolAnother Punahou Grad, but he probly got a scholarship, not having had an average rich white grandma that he hated and still hates like BHO.
Manti Te'o on girlfriend hoax story: 'victim' of 'sick joke' Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o's inspirational story about playing in the weeks following his girlfriend's death and subsequent funeral in September turned out to be false after a Deadspin.com article revealed Te'o's girlfriend didn't exist.In what has been described as an elaborate hoax, Te'o's girlfriend, Lennay Kekua, was an online persona created by Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, a friend of Te'o's and a pastor at a church in Palmdale, Calif.---If only Rev Wright had a sense of humor instead of all that hatred.Kinda weird humor, tho, esp for a pastor!
.Hadn't planned on continuing references to Hamdoon in the posts I put up under Bob's various pseudonyms, especially, now that the big Taureg is dead; however, the doctors who now have Bob confined in the psych ward at KATN tell me any mention of Hamdoon's death sends Bob into a frenzy; struggling with his bonds, shaking, drooling, screaming, "No. No. No. No. Oh god, no..." They fear it is too early for him to cope with the truth.So I will continue the farce and mention the ex- ... Ex-what? I don't know. The questions keep returning. What were Bob and the big man actually doing in that hotel in Timbuktu? KATN HQ denies any knowledge. Bob hasn't been on an assignment for them in over a year. Bob's wife doesn't know, she is frantic to find him, and she's pissed that he left the toilet seat up again when he left. And why the deference that Bob seemed to always pay Hamdoon during the brief time I saw them together? "Hamdoon said this...Hamdoon did that...Hamdoon thinks this..." It was as if Bob had no will of his own.The questions remain. Strange questions. Questions that perhaps should not be asked..