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Monday, January 28, 2013

The Palestinian West Bank has been illegally de facto annexed by Israel. This territory was not awarded to Israel even in the UN General Assembly partition plan of 1947, and indeed Israel’s possession of it is not recognized even by the US, much less the rest of the world. It was conquered by main force in 1967 and has been settled by hundreds of thousands of Israeli colonists, who have encroached on Palestinian orchards and farms, and have diverted Palestinian water. The Palestinians there have been kept stateless and without the rights of citizenship.



ISRAELI SOLDIERS TREATING PEOPLE LIKE DOGS:



Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory in the West Bank



The Palestinian West Bank has been illegally de facto annexed by Israel. This territory was not awarded to Israel even in the UN General Assembly partition plan of 1947, and indeed Israel’s possession of it is not recognized even by the US, much less the rest of the world. It was conquered by main force in 1967 and has been settled by hundreds of thousands of Israeli colonists, who have encroached on Palestinian orchards and farms, and have diverted Palestinian water. The Palestinians there have been kept stateless and without the rights of citizenship. They are sentenced in Israeli military courts. Israel controls their land, water and air space, and simply takes what land of theirs it wants, at will. Palestinians have been divided by Israeli Apartheid highways, checkpoints and the Apartheid Wall, so that often getting to hospital in an emergency is impossible and a one-hour journey now takes 8 hours. Israel controls the contours of their lives, but they have no vote in Israel. Here are some recent news items about the West Bank Palestinians. It is like this all the time, but Western media almost never report from the West Bank.
Since 2000, roughly 6700 Palestinians have been killed by Israelis. About 1100 Israelis have been killed by Palestinians in the same period. Although Israelis have been steadily encroaching on Palestinian territory, Western media almost never categorize Palestinian responses as resistance, using the Israeli propaganda term ‘terrorism’ instead. Israeli aggression is almost always portrayed as ‘retaliation,’ even when Israelis initiated the violence. Israelis are depicted as the ones in danger, even though Palestinians are in 7 times more danger.
Israeli soldiers shot Saleh al-Amareen, 16, in the head on Friday Jan. 17 during an altercation at a refugee camp in Bethlehem (Palestinian territory). He died last Wednesday of his wounds. Why is there a refugee camp in Bethlehem? Because Israelis ethnically cleansed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homes in Palestine in 1948. Why are there Israeli troops in the Palestinian West Bank? Because Israel took it by main force in 1967, refuses to relinquish it, and is assiduously stealing the Palestinians’ land and settling Israelis on it (illegal under the Geneva Accords of 1949). Why is Saleh al-Amaraeen dead? Apparently Israel can’t be bothered to use non-lethal methods or rubber bullets for crowd control.

Wednesday January 23; Israeli soldiers fired at the entrance to the al-Arroub Agricultural College near al-Khalil (Hebron) on Wednesday, killing a young woman studying there– Lobna Hannash, 21, of Bethlehem.

Israeli authorities made the implausible charge that the troops, in an unmarked car, had had molotov cocktails thrown at them from the direction of the college gate. Even if it were true, there is no reason to think Lobna was involved. Will any old dead Palestinian do?
Israeli troops shot and killed Samir Awad, an unarmed 17-year-old Palestinian protester at Budrus who attempted to protest the Apartheid Wall that has damaged the economy of his village. He was accused by Israel of “breaching” the wall, but Palestinian sources say he was just protesting it. The wall often bifurcates Palestinian villages and puts agricultural land on the Israeli side, stealing it from them.
Israeli troops last Wednesday abruptly arrested Palestinian human rights worker Hassan Karajeh, from Saffa village in Ramallah. He is a youth coordinator for Stop the Wall.
Israeli authorities announced an intention to steal Palestinian land near Beit Iksa. Palestinians flocked there to try to stop it, and 100 set up a tent village on the Palestinian-owned property. On Friday morning, Israeli troops razed the tent village.
The protest city erected by Palestinian rights activists on a private Palestinian plot of land in the E-1 area of the Palestinian West Bank to forestall its settlement by Israel was razed by Israeli authorities last week.

Israel treats its Palestinian prisoners very differently than it does Israeli criminals with regard to family visits and interaction. It also does things like add 15 years to a 15-year sentence for making defiant statements to the court.
Palestinian protesters demanding the release of Palestinian prisoners from Israeli prisons briefly raised Palestinian flags over the old Palestinian village of al-Khader, which is now the Israeli settlement of Eliezar. The Palestinians were chased away by the Israeli military.
Israeli border police are being investigated for a 2009 incident, videoed by one of the police, in which they humiliated and brow-beat a mentally disabled Palestinian man who could not remember his i.d. number.
When Palestinians went out to protest the Israeli annexation of their lands in the South Hebron Hills, the Israeli army abruptly declared the area a closed military zone and arrested them, including a woman with a baby in her arms. It is not clear if the baby was charged.

88 comments:

  1. Don’t believe your lying eyes.

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    1. Really drinking the kool aid now are we not???

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  2. The reason this is kept out of the US media is because if Americans understood what was going on, the game would be over. Bull Connors had nothing over these people.

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    1. Folks, the US media is now, was and always has been, and always will be controlled by the perfidious International Jews.

      That is why the Elephant Bar has so much value. Here you are exposed to that which the Jewish controlled media are not allowing you to see. The US news is totally in the tank for Netanyahu, that Lincoln of Israel, aggressor, child molester, and homosexual who gets his rocks off thinking of the suffering he is causing. It is so bad, and the brain washing so complete, that the entire US Congress, also controlled by the Jews, applauds the man every world he speaks when he is invited into our chambers.

      Thankfully our right thinking host is here to set you straight.

      Jesus was a Jew too, but thankfully Mother Mary was a Catholic, or even the Church would be lost.

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    2. If the US media showed how America treats it's poor, it's illegals, it's criminals? The game would go on.

      Since there is only one standard for Israel and no standards for anyone else.

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    Helmet-cam View of Firefight with Taliban

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/hear-from-the-unseen-soldier-behind-widely-viewed-afghan-war-video/2013/01/26/7a2c47c6-6589-11e2-9e1b-07db1d2ccd5b_video.html?hpid=z1

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  4. http://archive.adl.org/israel/israel_attacks.asp

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  5. List of attacks against Israeli civilians before 1967

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_against_Israeli_civilians_before_1967

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  6. Act for Cybercivility here -

    http://www.adl.org/education-outreach/bullying-cyberbullying/youth-learn-skills-to-stop-cyberbullying.html#.UQZNOPKcu1s

    I'm outta here for a couple days, tata

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  7. http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2013/01/israel-confirms-iran-denies-fordow.html


    Hamdoon

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  8. Well, at least we still have Hamdoon.
    Thank heaven.

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    1. My father went to war against Hitler you pathetic little apologist.

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    2. " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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    3. love the censoring..

      your father would slap you silly if he knew what a jew hater you are.

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    4. deuce has no problem censoring the truth

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    5. the truth hurts?

      you father would spit at you for distorting the truth, being an anti-semite.

      that's why it hurts...

      you know he'd be pissed

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  10. Should we show a map of the entire middle east, that shows the complete and total erasure of Jewish settlements since 1948 by the Arabs?

    The West Bank, makes up less than 3% of the 1/900 that the Jews control of the middle east.

    The map you show is nonsense.

    But you know that.

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  11. Maybe we should have a discussion of the USA's use of watercannon on blacks...

    Maybe we should list every police abuse in America of every illegal.

    Maybe we need to be honest in discussions...

    nah that would be to easy...

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  12. America and Wounded Knee....

    Nah, to easy

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  13. Since 2000, America has killed just how many civilians in other nations?

    nah, to easy

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  14. Here is a great pic of Kent State.

    http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-VK301_1119ke_H_20121119150325.jpg

    Just a few dead Americans, no big deal....

    One standard for Israel, no standards for anyone else

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  15. It's amazing how distorted Deuce is getting...

    Please notice his LACK of balance.

    Nothing fair and balanced here....

    Just bash Israel.

    Hold israel up to a different standard

    The article is garbage. But we all know that.

    But deuce's hatred for Israel knows no bounds.

    I hope his grandkids all marry palestinians.

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  16. Obama kills American citizens without trial....

    lol

    Great standards....

    Oh that's Right, America and world have no standards.

    Now if a Jew kicks a Palestinian?

    That's a war crime

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  17. In real terms, how much disputed lands are in the world?

    Tibet

    Falklands.

    Northern Ireland

    Cyprus

    Islands between Japan and Russia

    Russian occupation of Georgia

    The USA and it's land grab of most of it's lands?

    How about the ARAB occupation of most of the west bank?

    and on and on...

    OF ANY EXAMPLE EITHER PROVIDED OR NOT

    PLEASE LIST ANY EXAMPLE OF ANY NATION (other than Israel) that has offered 97% of all disputed land for peace.

    Please LIST ONE EXAMPLE

    Now we all know that Israel has offered and has been turned down, 97% of the west bank for peace, it has returned the Sinai, 2 times, southern lebanon and MOST all of the west bank already.

    The total dispute of land? Less than the 20-30 square miles of land.

    And yet, the way the world and this blog treats the issue?

    Is like Israel occupies 899/900th of the middle east rather than the 1/900th it has.

    The ignoring of the crime of the arab world's ethnic cleansing of it's Jews, 950,000 and the forced MIGRATION of those jews into modern day israel is never discussed.


    maybe if the thieving, nazi supporting arabs had NOT driven it's Jews from their historic lands in the middle east into Israel and had accepted numerous peace plans things would be different, but the arabs do not want "peace" they want it all

    and deuce? does the arabs dirty work...

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  18. Only 8 or 9 hundred thousand Joos have been cleansed from the Middle East, WIO, without compensation or mention.

    Get over it.

    Hitler, bad, Muzzies Good.

    Works for women, gays and Christians, too.

    Deal with it.

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  19. If you have been paying attention, I have been critical of my nation for many reasons. The lack of balance in reporting is from the American media that will not report what is obvious to most of the civilized world. (as I watch a hit piece commercial on CNBC about Chuck Hagel).

    The Israeli military behavior in these videos and reports is reprehensible, racist and disgusting. It would get any US soldier a military court martial. It is as bad as any apartheid practiced in South Africa.

    If you had a shrread of integrity, you would be outraged that it was done in so-called men wearing the insignia of Israel.

    You are pathetic.

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    1. no, israel has a court system

      why not post what happened to those you presented?

      then post what happens to suicide bombers and their families...

      it is you that is pathetic

      and amerika is PAYING the families of those suicide bombers that murdered Americans.

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    3. " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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  20. "Russian occupation of Georgia

    The USA and it's land grab of most of it's lands?
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    Speaking of Ruskies and the USA:

    The Russians built Fort Ross in Northern California in 1812.

    Have they ever been compensated for our land grab there?

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  21. WiO,

    As usual your argument is simply one of equivalence - Israel can act badly because other countries have acted badly.

    You can see how stupid such an argument is on its face can't you?

    I guess not. How about if we simplify it for you, like we do for children? "Two wrongs don't make a right".

    Carry on!

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    1. How about some positive arguments WiO? Like why the modern day Israel should have the borders of Eretz Israel and be Jewish and democratic.

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    2. ash,

      why?

      you cant change people like you....

      you squat on other people's lands in canada and fling bullshit south, so why try?

      pearls before swine...

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    4. If you can't present a decent argument in favor then you concede the ground to the negative.

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    6. why try? it will be censored

      " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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    7. It would appear that you can't make the argument. Whether that is a function of the censor or your inability to convincingly make that argument is hard to tell at the moment.

      Is that what was censored - your argument in support of a modern day Israel with the borders of Eretz Israel and that is democratic and Jewish?

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    8. ash: It would appear that you can't make the argument. Whether that is a function of the censor or your inability to convincingly make that argument is hard to tell at the moment.


      Argument has been made 100 times, search for it at the Bar.. Stop being so lazy


      Ash: Is that what was censored - your argument in support of a modern day Israel with the borders of Eretz Israel and that is democratic and Jewish?

      My argument for "Eretz Israel " is a "have you stopped beating your wife question" you know that as do I.

      This is why there is no "discussion" with those, like you that slant the argument BEFORE it even starts.

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    9. Where do you think the borders should be? 1948 lines? 1967 lines?

      Do you think the West Bank should be, or is, part of Israel?

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    10. I think that offers were made to return 97% of the west bank, that includes historic jewish lands for peace.

      If the self named "palestinians" cannot deliver on peace?

      No lands should be given.

      Gaza was given for peace, no peace.

      The Sinai was given for peace, no peace.

      Southern Lebanon was given for peace, no peace.

      Most of the Arabs that live in the West Bank can live their entire lives without seeing an Israeli, now if they wish to travel INTO Israel? It's a privilege not a right.

      Israel, with Clinton, Israel with the UN, Israel with Bush have all offered and been refused land for peace deals.

      SO it's really not about borders.

      It's about the arab world accepting the fact that the Jewish State of Israel is.

      and it has every right to be, as any other FULL MEMBER of the UN does.

      But what is not correct? is the going back for the deal that was refused 10 years ago.

      The arabs turned down 1948, 1966, 1974, 1983, 1999 and other deals.

      The old deals are off the table.

      gone, moved on....

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    1. " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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  23. Please, fix the profile.

    Quote & Unquote

    Pathetic performance NeO.

    Candtman II The Sequel, it's off to a shoddy start

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    1. this coming from a self described killer?

      give a rest murderer....

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    2. hey rat,

      so let's own it..

      you stalked bob and me...

      threatened us both with murder and yet you still post...

      wow...

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  24. yep censoring is what deuce does best


    " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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  25. here are the rules...

    you can attack me all you wish... that is ok

    if I attack back..

    deuce deletes...

    " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

    pussy

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  27. dont like the message?

    stop being a jew hater


    " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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  28. it's amazing

    what a terrible slap to the memory of our forefathers that died fighting the nazis

    now we have people in america that support the islamic nazis...

    " If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. " ― George Orwell

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  29. Our nation now FUNDS the modern day nazis...

    gives hezbollah, hamas, islamic rebels/terrorists weapons and cash

    bue deuce puts up a post about a jew kicking an arab

    wow///

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  30. I put up a post about an unprofessional army terrorizing and bullying old men and woman, killing young girls and adolescents, tearing up people’s livelihood. You see it as a Jew and an Arab because of your feeling of moral superiority and any Arab is an inferior to you.

    Daily, you and others like you, including those swine that call themselves soldiers, are creating future enemies and hatred. No American would put up with such treatment from a foreign occupation force.

    The US gets to do the clean up and pay for the blowback.

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    1. DeuceMon Jan 28, 11:36:00 AM EST
      I put up a post about an unprofessional army terrorizing and bullying old men and woman, killing young girls and adolescents

      You put up a post the day after International Holocaust Remembrance day slamming Israel.

      You claim the "army" is unprofessional, however you do not post what happened to those that did illegal things.

      You post nothing in balance.


      Deuce: No American would put up with such treatment from a foreign occupation force.


      Israel is NOT A FOREIGN OCCUPATION FORCE.

      It is indigenous. Like it or not.

      Long before the modern state of Israel was reformed and established Islam was at war with the USA.



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    2. deuce nice passive aggressive behavior...

      oh i didnt do anything so wrong...

      own it....

      you put up a garbage piece with no balance, no actual facts and you make hugh slurs...

      "Bull Connors had nothing over these people"

      Theophilus Eugene "Bull" Connor (July 11, 1897 – March 10, 1973) was the Commissioner of Public Safety for the city of Birmingham, Alabama, during the American Civil Rights Movement. His office gave him responsibility for administrative oversight of the Birmingham Fire Department and the Birmingham Police Department, which had their own chiefs.
      Through his covert actions to enforce racial segregation and deny civil rights to African American citizens, especially during the Southern Christian Leadership Conference's Birmingham Campaign of 1963, Connor became an international symbol of bigotry. Connor infamously directed the use of fire hoses, and police attack dogs against peaceful demonstrators, including children.[1][2] His aggressive tactics backfired when the spectacle of the brutality being broadcast on national television served as one of the catalysts for major social and legal change in the southern United States and helped in large measure to assure the passage by the United States Congress of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.[3]

      Give a break...

      You are just throwing firebombs

      And I respond...

      By calling you an ARSONIST

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  31. "I cannot stand idly by, even though I happen to live in the United States and even though I happen to be an American Negro and not be concerned about what happens to the Jews in Soviet Russia. For what happens to them happens to me and you, and we must be concerned."

    "Israel's right to exist as a state in security is uncontestable."

    "Peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality."

    "I solemnly pledge to do my utmost to uphold the fair name of the Jews -- because bigotry in any form is an affront to us all."

    "When people criticize Zionists they mean Jews, you are talking anti-Semitism."



    Martin Luther King

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  32. List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2012

    This is a detailed list of Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2012. All of the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip, unless stated otherwise.
    As of November 2012, over 2,256 rockets had been launched at Israel from Gaza since January 2012.

    January

    In January, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary, Palestinians fired 9 rockets and 7 mortar shells at Israel in 14 separate attacks.[3]
    January 1
    Palestinians fired two mortar shells containing phosphorus into Eshkol Regional Council. The shells landed in open fields, causing no injuries or damage.[4] The Eshkol Regional Council filed a formal complaint with the United Nations, noting that the Geneva Conventions prohibit the use of phosphorus against civilians.[5]
    January 19
    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[6]
    January 21
    Overnight, Palestinians fired three mortar shells into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage. In response to the attack, an Israeli Air Force helicopter immediately struck a group of terrorists in the Rafah area.[7][8]
    January 22
    Palestinians fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[9] In response to this attack and previous ones, Israel carried out air strikes on a weapons factory in the central Gaza Strip, two tunnels in the northern Strip and one tunnel in southern Gaza, causing no injuries.[10][11]
    January 24
    In the afternoon, Palestinians fired two Qassam rockets into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[12]
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  33. These types of lists go on both direction by the thousands. And these are just the rocket and mortar attacks

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  34. Sorry no photos..

    Palestinian suspect of stabbing Israeli caught
    English.news.cn 2012-04-24 17:08:43
    JERUSALEM, April 24 (Xinhua) -- Israeli security forces have arrested a Palestinian man they suspect of stabbing a Jewish Israeli taxi driver for nationalistic motives early Tuesday morning.

    Details of a partially-rescinded gag order said the driver told police that the suspect hailed him down late Monday night in the city of Kfar Saba, north of Tel Aviv.

    The suspect then stabbed the driver in the stomach and fled. The driver, who sustained moderate wounds, was able to alert other drivers, who aided police in locating the suspect, according to the Army radio.

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  35. Palestinian woman in stabbing attack on Israel policeman
    DEBKAfile September 23, 2012, 8:17 AM (GMT+02:00)
    The police officer overpowered the woman, aged 32, from Silwan village in E. Jerusalem, before he was hurt and took her into custody. She wanted to contribute to the wave of Muslim protest against the anti-Islam film made in America.

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  36. Yahoo just reported its fourth-quarter earnings, which beat on revenue ex-traffic acquisition costs (TAC) and on earnings.

    Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer is in the middle of a turnaround effort at the media giant, most recently bringing PayPal alumnus Max Levchin onto the board. Delivering a slight beat is a good start to that: Shares are up 4.1% after-hours, and the stock has risen about 26% in the past six months.

    ...

    Q: What do you think the level of commercialization of Yahoo products is? Does the level of commercialization need to be taken down first for users?

    Mayer: On the whole, no. I'm a very active user of the site myself and I think the ads add a lot to the overall user experience. Every now and then we see a property where the ads don't enhance the experience.

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  37. So still, NeO has not cleaned up his Quote profile Unquote.

    Oh well.

    He tells stories about us that cannot be reference in time or place, nor be recalled by the other posters here at the EB.

    I was hoping he had returned to tell US that the abortion rates in Israel had dropped below that of the US. But no, the Israli are still murdering Jewish souls at a higher rate than US gentiles are killing our own.

    That Obama, he gets around. Those babies in Israel, they'd have looked just like him. Had they been given a chance in life.

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    1. Rat tell us about "jewish abortion" rates..

      at last count America is paying for about 1/2 million a year....

      since you dont think one person's fetus is worth more than another's why do you gloss over the horrible American rate?

      After all America leads the world in abortions..

      As for stories, you Rodent are the King of lies... One day it's about how your some "black ops " merc, shooting all the bad guys to the next you say you never were "convicted" in an international court...

      lol

      you are one stinky rodent...

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  38. Border police harassment is something that has been rampant by the IDF against Palestinians.

    There had been international outrage over the Arabs that were being forced to sing before the border guards as a pre-condition for passing the checkpoint; guards were uploading videos of these incidents to YouTube. The publicity over these videos led to an IDF investigation; in one case it was held ,incredibly, the subject elected to voluntarily sing to the guards. In another video, a young Arab was forced to sing while simultaneously slapping himself in the face. These videos were particularly repugnant to Israelis recalling the forced singing of Jewish inmates at Auschwitz.

    There also have been more serious reports of violent assaults of Arabs at these checkpoints. In one instance guards beat a Palestinian for five minutes until an IDF officer intervened.

    An Israeli civil rights group, Machsom Watch, has placed observers with notebooks to document border guard abuses at these checkpoints.

    These reports of IDF border guard misconduct have fueled incidents of Arab retaliation against IDF checkpoints, including a history of snipings,slashings and suicide bombiings of guardsmanning these areas.

    There had been one report that even though organized Palestinian resistance groups had stopped sniping at IDF guards during a truce, these border units were still being shot at by individual Arabs disappointed over the failure of the “terrorist” orgaanizations to continue the sniping incidents.

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    1. yeah forced singing...

      that warrants a suicide attack or shooting someone's brains out...

      nitwits

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  39. A crowd had gathered at the house of singer Akia Coulibaly. Dressed in a turquoise wrap she stopped her street show briefly to recount how life has been since last April when Timbuktu fell into the hands of Islamists.

    “We are having a party,” she shouted over the din. “We haven’t danced or sung while they have been here.

    They cut hands, they beat people. We have been prisoners.”

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  40. The State Department on Monday reassigned Daniel Fried, the special envoy for closing the prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and will not replace him, according to an internal personnel announcement. Mr. Fried’s office is being closed, and his former responsibilities will be “assumed” by the office of the department’s legal adviser, the notice said.

    The announcement that no senior official in President Obama’s second term will succeed Mr. Fried in working primarily on diplomatic issues aimed at repatriating or resettling detainees appeared to signal that the administration does not currently see the closing of the Guantánamo Bay prison as a realistic priority, despite repeated statements that it still intends to do so.

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    A Third Party View of the Israeli/Palestinean Conflict

    Third, the League of Nations itself, which created the British Mandate as (in Margalit’s words) “a transitory trusteeship so as to prepare the country to be a ‘national home for the Jews,’ without ‘impairing the civil and religious rights of the indigenous Arab people.’ ” This contradictory mission statement turned the task of apportioning land into an impossible task — the mathematical equivalent of solving for a variable on the basis of two independent equations: One equation always is guaranteed to be unsatisfied.

    The only way to make such a system mathematically soluble is to eliminate one of the two “equations” by death, expulsion or dispossession — which is, not coincidentally, the very solution embraced by radicals on both sides.


    View From the British Mandate

    I agree with the last paragraph, as well as, the following:

    This emphasis on the British colonialists may seem historically obscure. But because the Mandate was caught in the middle, between Jew and Arab, its chroniclers supplied the last historically authoritative third-party perspective. Seeing the conflict through their eyes provides a valuable reality check on both sides’ self-serving narratives.

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    1. Nonsense

      From the VERY founding of the modern State of Israel, it's Jewish leaders begged the arabs living there to stay.

      And even though some did leave, today there is a population of 20% of the State that is Arab and they own land, businesses and vote. They serve in the Knesset, on the Supreme Court and even win Miss Israel contests. Now let's compare that to the lands of the REST of the Arab occupied middle east...

      Jews have been made enemies of the state. They have been almost completely wiped out, their historic building bulldozed. 950 thousand Jews pushed from their historic homes of over 2000 years (before the arabs conquered in 640 ce)...

      As for the Arabs living in the western called "west bank" and gaza? The same should hold for the arabs that live in Jordan. A confederation of states that make up their own nation.

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      What does anything you just said have to do with the article I posted? It is merely a good example of the point being made by the authors regarding the current state of the conflict, both sides offering up selectively chosen talking points, their own "self-serving narratives" if you like, not recognizing any truth in the other side's "self-serving narrative".

      The authors merely point out that it is highly unlikely there will be any peace or even settlement offering both sides a modus vivendi. The only way there will be peace there is after the total defeat of one side or the other.

      I've held the same view for some time based on the issues involved and the demographics.

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    3. Then you are correct, Israel should stop all efforts at compromise and simply adopt the arab motto, all...

      all..

      destroy the fake national people called "palestine" once and for all and drive all arabs out of the west bank, gaza and jordan.

      do what the arabs do... go for the ultimate solution.

      sadly the Israeli people and government never bought into that theory....

      so reality will bite. Israel aint the arabs...

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    4. .

      I was merely offering my opinion.

      My comments weren't intended to pick sides one way or another just as I don't think the article was picking sides. If you look at the history, the key issues, the positions that have been staked out by both sides, as well as the demographics, I can't see a negotiated settlement in the future. There might be truces and periods of reduced violence but I just don't see a compromise both sides are willing to live with. That is the reality as I see it.

      And as you pointed out, that reality would bite.

      But then, that's just my opinion, and what the hell do I know?

      Perhaps, Obama will pull one of the Clintons out of retirement and send them over as special representative to solve all the problems.

      .

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  42. The only way to make such a system mathematically soluble is to eliminate one of the two “equations” by death, expulsion or dispossession — which is, not coincidentally, the very solution embraced by radicals on both sides.



    'Radicals' on both sides? Only 'radicals'?

    This forgets, perhaps intentionally, the koranic injunction for everyone to support the effort to kill all the Jews everywhere, even the one over there behind the tree, and be rewarded in 'heaven' for the effort.

    Nice try Quirk.

    Try again.

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    1. And the arabs nearly to a man and woman support this idea, having been propagandized into it from birth.

      Gotta run, busy day....

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  43. He tells stories about us that cannot be reference in time or place, nor be recalled by the other posters here at the EB.

    That's odd. I remember all the things WiO recalls, and more.

    I remember how Whit sent a circular around that described the characteristics of an internet bully and showed how they fit you to a T, and urged us not to engage with you.

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    1. Bob, aint that funny, the ole rat thinks cause he scrubbed the website he didnt say those things...

      lol

      he's got the memory of a serial liar.

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  44. Scrubbed?

    Shitfire, boy.
    Why in the whirled would I even make the effort.
    The FBI has the Gooogle original. That is why your complaint hit the 'Round File' ...
    No basis in reality.

    If you think you read admissions of capital crimes, threats against others or any other clap trap, why ...

    You be delusional

    Quote & Unquote

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  45. Is that why you live in the woods? Far away from everyone...

    hiding out?

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  46. The place Mama Palin bought, once she maade some money, anyway.

    Not the place in Alaska.

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  47. Strange, it was there, then not.

    Any wai I do not live in the woods, NeO

    I live up the road from the Palin place, in the desert.

    Quote & Unquote

    So comical

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    1. Obviously, NeO, the FBI agrees wiith me.

      You furnished them the complete file of my supposed transgression.

      Didn't even warrant an interview.

      As I said, you're delusional, the FBI seems to agree.

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