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Thursday, May 05, 2011

Another Fake Photo About the Bin Laden Killing

Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, revealed there was a 25 minute blackout during which the live feed from cameras mounted on the helmets of the US special forces was cut off.
A photograph released by the White House appeared to show the President and his aides in the situation room watching the action as it unfolded. In fact they had little knowledge of what was happening in the compound.
In an interview with PBS, Mr Panetta said: "Once those teams went into the compound I can tell you that there was a time period of almost 20 or 25 minutes where we really didn't know just exactly what was going on. And there were some very tense moments as we were waiting for information.
"We had some observation of the approach there, but we did not have direct flow of information as to the actual conduct of the operation itself as they were going through the compound."
Mr Panetta also told the network that the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president.

He said: "The authority here was to kill bin Laden. And obviously, under the rules of engagement, if he had in fact thrown up his hands, surrendered and didn't appear to be representing any kind of threat, then they were to capture him. But they had full authority to kill him.
"To be frank, I don't think he had a lot of time to say anything. It was a firefight going up that compound. And by the time they got to the third floor and found bin Laden, I think it - this was all split-second action on the part of the Seals."
The President only knew the mission was successful after the Navy Seals commander heard the word “Geronimo” on the radio, a code word from commandos reporting that they had killed bin Laden.
The absence of footage of the raid has led to conflicting reports about what happened in the compound. According to Pakistani authorities one of bin Laden’s daughter’s, who was present during the raid, claimed that her father was captured alive before he was killed.
There was also growing doubt about the US claims that Pakistan’s intelligence agencies involved in the raid.
Lieutenant General Asad Durrani, former head of the ISI, Pakistan's intelligence service, said it was "inconceivable" that his government was unaware of the US raid on Osama bin Laden's compound.
He claimed his country was forced to deny any knowledge of the raid to avoid a domestic backlash. The ISI's official line has been that bin Laden's compound had "slipped off our radar" after it raided the building in 2003 while hunting for another senior al-Qaeda operative.The agency claims it was unaware that bin Laden was hiding there.
Lieutenant General Durrani, however, said that the denial was a "political" maneuver by the intelligence services to avoid claims that they were working too closely with the US.
He said: "It is more likely that they did know [about the raid]. It is not conceivable that it was done without the involvement of Pakistani security forces at some stage. They were involved and they were told they were in position.
"The army chief was in his office, the cordons had been thrown around that particular place. The Pakistani helicopters were also in the air so that indicates that it was involved.
"[There are] political implications back home. If you say that you are involved there is a large, vocal faction of Pakistani society that will get very upset because we are carrying out repeatedly these operations with the Americans."

91 comments:

  1. Assuming that this was not an unbelievably inconvenient coincidence and there was a technical problem at exactly the the moment of most interest, why would they switch off the live feed?

    I mean, what is the point of fitting cameras , etc., and only watching the lead-up to the event and then switching off? Was it for legal reasons, so that the viewers were not witnesses to the event? Or maybe there was no blackout.

    Yesterday there was talk of the photo being given to Time magazine. Now suddenly we aren't going to see any images.

    They all sat watching a video. We can't see that either.

    The helicopter had a mechanical malfunction. So they blew it up.

    He was armed and hiding behind a woman. Then he had no weapon and was hiding behind nobody. He resisted arrest, with no weapon, and so they shot him.

    I'm glad he's dead. But I'm not looking forward to the consequences. And if you wanted to get some conspiracy nuts all agog, this is a masterclass in how to do it.

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  2. Obama Said:

    "We discussed this internally. Keep in mind that we are absolutely certain this was him. We've done DNA sampling and testing and so there is no doubt that we killed Osama bin Laden. It is important for us to make sure that very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence. As a propaganda tool. You know, that's not who we are," Obama said.

    Say What? "You know, that's not who we are,"

    WTF , I thought we shot him. We sent our SEALS in with helicopters smashed the place up and shot Osama in the head, killed three others. We were on a killing mission.

    We heard that they were all unarmed. That is the idea when you kill your enemy. You don't want a fair fight. You want to surprise them, kill them and go home smoking a Marlboro and drink a Budweiser.

    Of course that is who we are. We did it. Of course that is who we are and we ought to be flooding the world with photos and let them know there are consequences for fucking with the bull.

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  3. We didn't "take him out." You take the dog out. We went on a ten year hunt. We stalked bin Laden. Finally we found him, caught him in his shit hole mansion broke into his house , killed three on the first floor, head shots and neck shots. We ran upstairs and found Osama in his bed room with one of his wives. We shot her in the leg and shot Osama in the face blowing off a piece of the back of his skull. He was defenseless because he felt safe in his home we surprised him and killed him.

    Ten years ago, four plane loads of unarmed defenseless unsuspecting Americans had their guard down, comfortably settled in their seats going home, doing their work or going on vacation. They were murdered by Osama bin Laden along with 2500 other defenseless people.

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  4. His head should be spiked on the gate to The White House.

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  5. …"You know, that's not who we are,"

    No,I don't know, that is exactly who we are.

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  6. Those women should be spilling their guts to Americans, not Pakis!

    I think the unarmed OBL was dropped because the BHO Admin has painted itself into a corner by ruling any sane handling of OBL here off the table.
    I don't think the SEALS were given the option of capture.

    Killing him and leaving everyone there for the Pakis to interrogate was the easiest and politically safest thing to do, not the best.

    The best is never possible since reality is turned on it's head regularly by this PC Obsessed, Dhimmified, anti-exceptional excuse for leadership.

    No military trials, no enhanced interrogation, no use of Gitmo, outrageous ROE's, prosecution of honorable heros, Sharia Compliance in all things... on and on.

    The Rule of Law or the Rule of Mobs?

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    The Rule of Law or the Rule of Mobs?

    I agree with everything in the Napolitano commentary Dougo. With the exception of the need to release the photographs. I object to it on the basis that there is no need. (We know he is dead.) And I object to it on the basis that the clowns running the show right now have proven they are amateurs when it comes to getting the message out. They would only screw it up.

    IMO, the potential negatives associated with releasing them outweigh any potential positives.

    (With the possible exception exception of satisfying Deuce's grrr.)

    We took him out in a cold-blooded, methodical manner. Much more scary to the enemy than sticking his head on a pike.

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  9. I don't know about the photos or the pike but I wouldn't have given him that big send off on a Navy ship. 45 minutes of islamic mumbo jumbo seems a little too much for me. Everybody has there own way of looking at it though. I won't mention what my wife said should have been done. Or Dale's take, either.

    dwr

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  10. Yeah, I'm not much of a Napalitano fan, but the extent to which the Dems and this Admin have made a mockery of the rule of law certainly qualifies as gangsta government, and probly none of us here have much faith in the Pubs holding them to account.

    The number of Dem Perps that walk scott free is disgusting, from Mr Moneypants in the Clinton Amin to the Tax Cheats and Panther thugs in this admin.

    Just a few of Many, and the CIC is the supreme outlaw.

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    Turkey has a plan to become a major regional power and most would agree they have been advancing that aim lately.

    However, Turkey's foreign policy is starting to look a little like the US's. You can roll the dice and take your chances, but sometimes when you mess with the bull you get the horns. (I'm trying to get as many idioms, catchphrases, and proverbs out as early today as I can.)



    Before the so-called Arab Spring unleashed by revolution in Egypt and Tunisia, Turkey was a catalyst in an emerging realignment of the Middle East, charting a foreign policy often independent of the United States in a region bereft of any country that matched its political stature. Now the unrest on its borders is undermining years of diplomatic and economic investment, forcing Turkey to take a more assertive role as its vision of economic integration runs up against the threat of growing instability.

    “In the face of this unpredictable change around the Arab world, Turkish foreign policy is facing a major setback,” said Sami Kohen, a columnist for Milliyet, a daily newspaper in Turkey. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan “has started losing the leaderships in the Arab world that he trusted and considered important, one after the other.”


    There's many a slip 'twixt cup and lip

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  12. And doing a fair to middling job of it.

    I must mention in the paper today says the gray wolves are delisted again, so the Idaho Fish and Game Department helicopter gunships will be sweeping the Lolo soon.

    I hope this method of getting rid of the beastlies that they themselves introduced meets with all your approvals.

    I will follow this story closely, and report.

    I doubt they will have all that much success, though.

    Am taking the coffee and morning papers to the Mrs. now, a daily occurence she's come to expect.

    Lecrezia

    dwr

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    Unemployment claims up 43,000 to 474,000.

    Going the wrong way. Not good.

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    Oil down to $105 and change.

    Looks like GS was right again.

    (Sorry, Ruf. Couldn't help it after your comment a couple weeks ago.)

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    The inside story of tax cuts, revenue projections and the nation’s debt

    "We all know that raising taxes would stall the rebound we all claim to want. Let's just admit we don't have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem."

    — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), May 4, 2011



    McConnell’s comment Wednesday, made on the floor of the Senate, is a common refrain by Republicans. It is an expression of a deeply felt philosophical position.

    But we deal in facts, not philosophy. We think we have found a way to demonstrate that the nation has had both a spending problem and a revenue problem, at least since the halcyon days of 2001, when the Congressional Budget Office estimated that over 10 years the government would run a $5.6 trillion surplus.

    We’re not saying that the Bush-era tax cuts were the primary reason for the disappearance of the surplus; the data clearly shows that new spending exceeded the estimated revenue loss of the tax cuts. One of the biggest problems, in fact, was that the revenue estimates made by the CBO turned out to be wildly overstated — so much so that a case can be made that Bush’s tax cuts actually reduced revenue less than is conventionally assumed.

    Let’s go to the video tape.

    The Facts

    In January 2001, the CBO — the nonpartisan scorekeeper for legislation — announced that under current policy , the government would run a $5.6 trillion surplus from 2001 to 2011. The key caveat is “current policy.” The CBO is supposed to assume all sorts of things in law, such as certain tax provisions will remain in place even though Congress always waives them. The CBO also assumed that discretionary spending would continue to decline as a percentage of the overall economy, having no clue that the Sept. 11 attacks that year would put new demands on government spending.

    On the revenue side, the government was helped by a gusher of new money — capital-gains taxes from the run-up in the stock market, as well as taxes paid on stock options earned by technology executives. Between 1994 and 1999, realized gains nearly quadrupled, the CBO later estimated , with taxes on those gains accounting for about 30 percent of the increased growth of individual income tax liabilities relative to the growth of gross domestic product, the broadest measure of the economy. The CBO warned that those gains couldn’t continue — but the end came much sooner than expected.


    Revenue, Spending, or Both

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    Blogger doesn't like this one so I've shortened it.

    The inside story of tax cuts, revenue projections and the nation’s debt

    Lying With Statistics: Is the problem revenue, spending, or both?

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  17. Goldman Sachs? They didn't say, "sell in May, and go away." That was old Rufie.

    I'm the one that said, yesterday, that we seem to have "stalled out."

    Can you lower oil prices by going into recession? Well, duh.

    I said it before, and I'll say it again, "Oil prices will rise until we stop growing." Well, guess what, we've stopped growing.

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  18. One thing the poobah talking heads are missing is the magnitude of the floods along the Ohio, Mississippi River System. All business is Stopped in a wide swath of the American heartland.

    We had 10,000 laid off last week in Tunica County, alone. The roads are barren of traffic, and everyone is home "buttoning-up."

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  19. This isn't an overflowing of the banks in some little obscure river in NJ. This is the Mississip, and it's kicking ass. We're talking an area of economic death 50 miles wide, and 2,000 miles long right through the business/agricultural heart of the country.

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  20. Deuce said...
    His head should be spiked on the gate to The White House.



    Well said...

    only correction? a sign that says NEXT?

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    Goldman Sachs? They didn't say, "sell in May, and go away." That was old Rufie.

    I'm the one that said, yesterday, that we seem to have "stalled out."

    Can you lower oil prices by going into recession? Well, duh.



    :)

    You are too funny, Ruf.

    What does what you had to say a few days ago have to do with what GS projected a month ago?

    They are talking to investors and say what you like about them they are more often right than wrong (except when they are making money on the other side of the trade).

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  22. Nah, you just Remember when they're right.

    It was back in the Winter that I said this would be a good year to "Sell in May, and go away."

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  23. Q, we're going through a Paradigm Shift, just like we did in the '30's. Until you recognize this, you will be blown around like a "willow in the wind."

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  24. Too many of our workers are stuck with "yesterday's" job skills.

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  25. Q, we're going through a Paradigm Shift, just like we did in the '30's. Until you recognize this, you will be blown around like a "willow in the wind."

    Paridigm shifts take time. While price changes effect the pocketbook in the short run, trying to predict long term trends based on daily or weekly shifts in the price of oil is like being blown around like a "willow in the wind".

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  26. "...the real problem is loan demand (confirmed while speaking to bank organizations in half a dozen states over the past year). Loans have to be repaid, meaning that the money must be used to finance the acquisition of employees or equipment that will "pay back" the loan. Common sense. But record numbers of owners (as high as 28%) have reported that "weak sales" is their top business problem while only 4% reported "financing" as a top problem..... Ninety-three percent reported all their credit needs met in March, including 53 percent who said they were not even interested in a loan. No customers means no need for a loan to finance hiring, inventory purchases or expansion (only survival – not a good bank loan!).

    But they don't get it in Washington D.C. And not understanding the problem produces bad policy, and there has been plenty of that. If lending is picking up, it is because customers are showing up and there is a reason to invest and hire. The reverse doesn't work – you can't force feed the credit to owners and have more customers suddenly show up ....That's "pushing on a string".
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    Smart Guy - Good Article

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  27. Don't know much about economics except my own but have always liked willows blowing in the wind. And the murmur of the wind through the pines and cedars. I am awaiting the blooming of the phlox and the flowering of the dogwood trees. The cherry blossoms. The ducks are two by two now, as they always are along the creeks this time of year. I've noticed when they spook it's usually the male of the two that rises first. If I'm lucky I'll see a doe and fawn or two out at the farm, and the rivers are full. It's the rites of spring, the torrents of springtime. In the backcountry the snow will hang onto the crags until July. There is more to life than the dreary science.

    dwr

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  28. Q, there is Not enough oil, available, to continue "Growth, as we know it."

    This is the basic, underlying fact of the World Economy, today.

    This is why we will Not be able to sustain a decent "recovery" for, quite possibly, decades.

    This is compounded by the fact that, in today's economy, if you are going to command a salary 10 times that of a Chinaman, you are going to have to be 10 times as "productive."

    We used to have that edge, but it's going away.

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  29. And on the other side of the coin the grave and constant in human life will always remain, as Joyce might say, and one must deal with that.

    Things don't change much, no matter what the stock market does, or the price of oil and gold.

    My philosophical thoughts for the day.

    dwr

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  30. Do you know why I'm on the computer today? I'm on the computer because I'm sitting here, high, and dry protected by a big old levee. You know when it was built?

    It was part of Roosevelt's CPA Work Program back during the Depression (along with TVA, and a lot of other roads, and development programs.)

    You know who fought him every step of the way, yelling, "Communist, Tyrant, Dictator, etc?" That's right, our good friends the Republicans. There's no Financial Crisis in history that the Republicans didn't declare War on the Poor. This time is no exception.

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  31. The Republicans are "shocked, shocked!" that the American people aren't rallying around their proposed raping of Medicare.

    They're "Shocked" that the average Joe thinks it stinks that Buffet pays an effective tax rate of 17.2%. The Republicans really are "The Party of Stupid."

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  32. My wife's place flooded once, back in the twenties or something. She doesn't seem concerned but she doesn't know the extent of it either. I think some dam, probably built by Roosevelt too, put an end to the threat. I don't know how high above river level she is but it isn't much. She might not be too sad to see the old house float down to Cairo either.

    dwr

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  33. Of course, that doesn't obscure the fact that many Democrats are pure Dingbats. ref: Bob's link.

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  34. We Do have a "Spending" problem; and we Do have a "Revenue" problem;

    but, more than anything else in the world, we have an "Oil Problem," which leads to a "balance-of-payments" problem, which we've made worse by, virtually, forcing our Corporations to keep their "investment money" overseas (which brings us back to our "Revenue" problem.

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  35. And, since we have an "Oil" problem, and a "balance of payments" problem, what do our Republican cohorts do? That's right, they spend as much time as they can find fighting the one mitigation that we really have at our disposal, Ethanol.

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    Amen, Ruf.

    This last attempt by Ryan is just the last in a long line.

    Of course, our problem is that there is no viable options.

    It appears the minimum standard for getting into politics is that you be a dick.

    But today I don't worry about it.

    It's been a crumby Spring. But today it's about 72 degrees here, sunny, a slight breeze blowing, and the voice of the turtle is heard in the land.

    Sweet.

    Me and the dog are heading out.

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  37. Everyone needs a therapy dog, but I can't have one here. Have had many a dog.

    Albinos in Tanzania murdered or raped as AIDS "cure"

    DAR ES SALAAM (Reuters) – Hundreds of albinos are thought to have been killed for black magic purposes in Tanzania and albino girls are being raped because of a belief they offer a cure for AIDS, a Canadian rights group said on Thursday.

    At least 63 albinos, including children, are known to have been killed, mostly in the remote northwest of the country.

    "We believe there are hundreds and hundreds of killings in Tanzania, but only a small number are being reported to the police," Peter Ash, founder and director of Under The Same Sun (UTSS), told Reuters.

    "There is belief that if you have relations with a girl with albinism, you will cure AIDS. So there are many girls with albinism who are being raped in this country because of this belief, which is a false belief."

    Around 1.4 million Tanzanians among a population of 40.7 million have the HIV virus that leads to AIDS.

    Albino hunters kill their victims and harvest their blood, hair, genitals and other body parts for potions that witchdoctors say bring luck in love, life and business.

    "(It is believed) a person with albinism is a curse. They are from the devil, they are not human, they do not die, they simply disappear," said Ash.

    Ernest Kimaya, head of the Tanzania Albino society and a sufferer of the pigment disorder, said social stigma prevented many girls from reporting rape, making it difficult to say how many albinos had been sexually abused.

    "These things are taking place underground. Even the albino killings started quietly, before the atrocities were finally exposed in public," Kimaya told Reuters.

    Activists last week reported three murders of teenage albino boys from the same family in northern Tanzania, who were poisoned and their bones later robbed from their graves.

    The Tanzanian government says it is determined to halt the macabre killings, but has been widely criticized for inaction.


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  38. But today I don't worry about it.

    It's been a crumby Spring. But today it's about 72 degrees here, sunny, a slight breeze blowing, and the voice of the turtle is heard in the land.

    Sweet.

    Me and the dog are heading out.


    That's the spirit, I'm heading out too.

    The voice of the turtle is heard in the land. That's good.

    dwr

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  39. rufus: You know who fought him every step of the way, yelling, "Communist, Tyrant, Dictator, etc?" That's right, our good friends the Republicans. There's no Financial Crisis in history that the Republicans didn't declare War on the Poor. This time is no exception.



    But if the democrat had had their way? We could have used some black slaves to build that levee for free... But those darned GOP'ers fought to free the slaves

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  40. Yep, that's true, also. I'm not attempting to make an anti-republican, pro-democratic argument; I'm just sayin' "it's different horses, for different courses." One size Don't fit all.

    Usually, though, you are better off with a liberal sprinkling of "Democratic" thought during Financial Crisis."

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  41. I'm, also, just really pissed at the Republicans right now.

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    Man what a great day. Nice breeze coming in off Stoney Creek lake. Nothing like stretching out under a tree and catching a little power nap.

    (At least, until the dog gets bored and gets you up.)

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  43. The Standard & Poor’s GSCI index of 24 commodities sank 6.3 percent at 2:08 p.m. in New York and has lost 9.6 percent this week. Silver tumbled 8.4 percent, extending its decline since April 29 to 26 percent. Oil sank 8.2 percent, falling below $100 a barrel for the first time since March 17.

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  44. Yeah, we're finally catching a little sunshine, here. Man, it's been miserable. I bet the suicide/homicide rate quintupled the last couple of weeks.

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    Saw a poll in the local paper. Its results indicated that no one in the GOP field currently gets more than 18% (Romney) of the vote among all eligible voters. Palin and Trump around 15% and Gindrich around 12%. Everyone else in single digits.

    Of course, as soon as you nominate a single person the numbers would probably jump into the forties. However, right now, I would have to think Obama would probably pick up about 55% of the vote against the current field.

    They have this 'debate' coming up on Fox but the only ones involved are the second stringers. Don't know much about any of them so it's hard to say if I would vote for any of them yet.

    Obama may just win by default.

    On another poll, I saw where 58% of the voters indicated they would "absolutely not" vote for either Palin or Trump. In the same poll, 42% said they would "absolutely not" vote for Gindrich.

    Even with a 'anyone but Obama' push by the GOP it's hard to see Obama going down. I used to think the economy might do it. Now I'm not so sure. I think (pure gut feeling)that the GOP are turning off more people than they are impressing with their current policies.

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  46. This is just for Greece, mind you:

    Estimates are that it would take a “haircut”​—​a write-down​—​of 40 percent to 70 percent to get debt into repayable territory. José Manuel González-Páramo, a member of the executive board of the European Central Bank, warns, “A restructuring would have legal and systemic consequences that are difficult to calculate right now, but would in all probability be bigger than after the collapse of Lehman Brothers.” And a “messy euro debt implosion .  .  . not only would .  .  . hurt the euro, it also has the potential to derail the global recovery,” conclude economists at Fathom Consulting...

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    "Sell in May and go away."

    Looks like I'm taking your advice Ruf.

    A few weeks ago I put in trailing stop limits on all my positions. Having seen Sun Sue's post, I checked out my stocks. The limits kicked me out of three more positions today including Gold and Exxon.

    That's about seven or eight positions I am out of over the past week.

    Good thing I'm going on vacation in a couple weeks.

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  48. This is a Great time for a vacation. I was thinking, this morning, about where we could go.

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  49. I know you think old Deuce is grumpy, which I am not , of course, but not showing the photos will only encourage some jihadis to pull some terror attack so that will look like bin Laden is still around. On the other hand, photos would demoralize some, not all.

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  50. I'm thinking just one pass over the Lolo by an Idaho Fish and Game Department helicopter gunship will cost us taxpayers around $3,000 at the least. I bet they have to rent those choppers, as I don't think they really have any of their own. Got plenty of pickup trucks though. More than employees to drive around in them. Maybe they can get the choppers through the U.S. Forest Service out of McCall. I'd volunteer to be shooter, for free, save them some money there. But they are after the ghost wolf, disappearing into the timber.

    Quirk is wrong, Obama is toast. Gas prices and familiarity breeding disgust will do it.

    Anyway even if he should win the Pubs will take the Senate and keep the House, or I'll eat my hat.

    dwr

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  51. I would have released them, immediately, Deuce, but, they didn't, so . . . . . .

    hell, he's daid.

    They know it; we know it;

    And, by now, Satan knows it. :)

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  52. And remember, Rufus said once, even Bob could beat Obama.

    dwr

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  53. I think even Osama knows it, full well, squirming as he is on the pitchfork.

    He has, as they say, really got hell to pay.

    dwr

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  54. Here's something I can believe - cause I don't think her icy soul is capable of anguish over some SEALS -

    ROME (Reuters) - An allergy and not anguish may explain why Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had her hand to her mouth while watching the commando operation to kill Osama bin Laden, she said on Thursday.

    A photo of Clinton, President Barack Obama and other senior officials watching the operation live from the White House situation room has become one of the most striking images of the raid that killed the al Qaeda leader.

    The photo shows Clinton with her hand to her mouth in what looks like a gesture of anxiety over the outcome of the operation.

    "Those were 38 of the most intense minutes. I have no idea what any of us were looking at that particular millisecond when the picture was taken," she said on Thursday when asked about the photo during a visit to Rome.

    "I am somewhat sheepishly concerned that it was my preventing one of my early spring allergic coughs. So it may have no great meaning whatsoever," Clinton added.


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    I'd volunteer to be shooter, for free, save them some money there.

    Not when you figure in all the wasted ammo.

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  56. I called Rufus Rose Colored Rufus forever as he ignored the oncoming train(s).

    Now he is nothing more than an ethanol spewing, Republican Bashing, Broken Record Bore.

    Good Job of Covering for this Miserable Ass POTUS, tho, Rufus.
    Too bad you're to old to get a job with the NY Times.

    I'm sure Krugman would appreciate a blowjob next time you visit tho.

    Can't imagine how other sites got sick of your miserable drivel.

    not

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  57. Hey, dwr:
    Maybe Rufie's on Soro's payroll!

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  58. A fascinating titbit on the raid from CNN’s well connected Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr. Apparently one of the ways the Navy Seals sought to positively identify bin Laden was his height.

    However, a vital piece of equipment was missing. So, after shooting him dead, one of the Seals lay down next to bin Laden’s body so they could ascertain how tall the dead man was.

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  59. How's them gas prices out in "Pineapple-land," Moron?

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  60. Sources involved in the operation to get bin Laden tell Fox News that the al-Qaeda leader appeared “scared and completely confused” and acted in a “cowardly” manner moments before he was shot. He shoved his wife towards the Navy Seal who then shot him.

    An AK-47 and a Makarov handgun were within the terrorist’s reach, the report said.

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  61. It means that CIA officers have been able to easily access the lists of names and numbers found in the Abbottabad compound, and begin operations to target other senior al-Qaeda leaders or active terrorist cells.

    Be interesting if there were any paki gov/military/isi names in the pc or documents.

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  62. In all, 13 children were recovered from the compound after US Navy Seals shot dead the world's most wanted man. Eight are believed to be the sons and daughters of bin Laden himself, according to Pakistani military sources.

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  63. She said: "Those were 38 of the most intense minutes. I have no idea what any of us were looking at that particular millisecond when the picture was taken.

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  64. .

    Apparently one of the ways the Navy Seals sought to positively identify bin Laden was his height.

    However, a vital piece of equipment was missing...




    "All right, who's got the tape measure?"

    "Heck, I thought you were supposed to bring it."

    "Shit. Godalmighty FUBAR."

    "Toad, get over here and lay down."


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  65. .

    Sources involved in the operation to get bin Laden tell Fox News that the al-Qaeda leader appeared “scared and completely confused” and acted in a “cowardly” manner moments before he was shot. He shoved his wife towards the Navy Seal who then shot him.




    And now another version of events.

    Just stop it. It's getting painful.

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  66. Kentucky Derby Lineup

    We're taking the jackpot money and heading north on Saturday for dinner with the daughter at the Casino and make a bet on the Derby. I hate the Derby. A good horse race has 6 horses, no more.
    xxxx

    I'd volunteer to be shooter, for free, save them some money there.

    Not when you figure in all the wasted ammo.


    It has been awhile since I've shot at a moving target from a moving platform, the last, and only, time I can remember was at a grouse out of the Toyota Landcruiser with the wife driving. Though I missed it was invaluable experience, so I know I'd be a great asset to IFandG.

    They don't call me dead wolf running for nothin'.


    Yes, Doug, Rufie has been on the payroll forever, I had that one figured.

    dwr

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  67. And, oh, the enviro weanies have already filed suit in Federal Court to overturn again the recent delisting of the Big Bad Wolf. They say the legislation is unconstitutional. They have a law firm works only for them.

    If the judge doesn't issue an immediate temporary injunction, which he probably will, the aerial gunners should be able to squeeze in a little sporting straffing.

    dwr

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  68. Filed in Billings, Montana today. People for BioDiversity, Friends of the Clearwater, Dummies From Detroit For Wolves, all the usual suspects.

    dwr

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  69. That moron head of the Anglican Communion weighs in.

    "not living in the real world"

    That should be underlined.

    By Tim Ross, Steven Swinford, James Kirkup and Caroline Gammell 10:00PM BST 05 May 2011
    Comment
    Dr Rowan Williams, spiritual head of the 80-million strong worldwide Anglican Communion, criticised the White House for repeatedly changing its account of the raid on the al-Qaeda leader’s compound in Pakistan.

    Killing bin Laden when he was not carrying a weapon meant that justice could not be “seen to be done”, the Archbishop suggested.

    But lawyers and senior figures from politics and the military said Dr Williams was not living in “the real world” while relatives of 9/11 victims expressed outrage at his remarks.

    A senior Government source described the Archbishop's comments as “very unwise”, adding: “One has to give some thought for all the unarmed people that bin Laden killed. This was a very silly thing to say.”

    Dr Williams’s intervention represents the most outspoken statement so far by a mainstream religious leader since the US Navy Seals team stormed bin Laden’s hideout and killed the world’s most wanted man on Monday.


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  70. Today alone, there’s been a whole clutch of indicators suggesting trouble on the way. Here’s a list of the top ten.

    1. Jean-Claude Trichet, president of the European Central Bank, has put further rate rises on hold until at least July and dropped the phrase “strong vigilance” from the ECB’s news conference to explain the ECB’s policy decision.

    2. Contrary to expectations as little as a month ago that the Bank of England would by now be taking the first tentative steps towards a policy tightening, the UK Monetary Policy Committee has again left rates on hold in the face of weak economic data. No-one now expects a rate rise until the Autumn at the earliest.

    3. The Markit/CIPS headline services PMI index for the UK eased to 54.3 in April from 57.1, suggesting that the UK economy failed to pick up speed in April following its lack lustre performance in the first quarter.


    Turning Soft

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  71. sam's quote ...
    "He shoved his wife towards the Navy Seal who then shot him."

    As described, ObL's corpse has at least one open head wound, a large bore trough across the forehead, just above the eyes. If true, the shooter would be at least 7'4" in height. A more realistic appraisal would have ObL sitting when executed. With this in mind, perhaps, Mr. Panetta is giving the SEAL's full credit for making the decision to make the kill - what a guy.

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  72. Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden was betrayed by his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri who led US forces to his hideout as the two were involved in an intense power struggle, a Saudi newspaper has reported. The two top al-Qaida men had differences and the courier who led US forces to bin Laden was working and had more loyalties for Zawahiri, al Watan newspaper reported quoting Arab sources.

    I'm shocked! These guys kill girls for going to school, but they have absolutely NO sense of honor!

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  73. So tonight at the GOP debate there's Santorum, Johnson, Paul, Cain and Pawlenty, aka Sneezy, Dopey, Grumpy, Happy and Bashful.

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  74. Chevy Cruze top selling GM car in April.

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  75. Teixeira dos Santos said that the financial conditions and budget constraints imposed by the European Union (EU) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in exchange for the rescue package are likely to cause Portugal's economy to contract by 2pc this year and a further 2pc in 2012.

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  76. The persistent increase in oil prices over the past decade
    suggests that global oil markets have entered a period
    of increased scarcity. Given the expected rapid growth
    in oil demand in emerging market economies and a
    downshift in the trend growth of oil supply, a return
    to abundance is unlikely in the near term.

    ...

    After a year and a half of global recovery, natural
    resources are again in the headlines. Th e spot price
    of a barrel of Brent crude oil crossed the US$100
    threshold in January 2011.

    ...

    A discussion of oil scarcity faces the challenge of
    any forward-looking analysis. Experience to date
    does not allow for strong predictions about the likely
    evolution of some of the factors that will determine
    the eventual extent and impact of oil scarcity.


    Global Imbalances

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  77. On the outbreak of war in 1914 he tried to join the British Army as a boy bugler by lying about his age. Instead he was sent in 1915 to the boys' training ship Mercury, under the headmastership of the athlete CB Fry, moored in the Hamble river.

    ...

    In October 1917 he joined the 40,000-ton battleship Revenge as a boy seaman, first class. The ship had fired more than a hundred 15in shells at Jutland, and Choules's next ship was another veteran of the battle, the fast battleship Valiant.

    Choules witnessed the surrender of the German High Seas Fleet off the Firth of Forth in November 1918 and King George V's review of the fleet at Southend in 1919.


    Claude Choules

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  78. There is increasing concern in Washington that Jay Carney, the new White House Press Secretary, isn’t up to the job. Even when faced with an innocuous question that requires only that he trot out the official line, he looks completely stunned, as if the questioner is Bob Woodward asking him about Deep Throat.

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  79. Hmmn.

    25 minute blackout. Did not give order to kill. Body disposed of at sea. No photographic evidence.

    A Human Rights Council watching from the UN.

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  80. The Obama administration has floated a transportation authorization bill that would require the study and implementation of a plan to tax automobile drivers based on how many miles they drive.

    So might as well drive those miles in a monster SUV, eh? Taxes will be the same.

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  81. .

    CNN UPDATE: (Wolf Blitzer reporting)

    Sources familiar with the raid report that as the Seal Team entered the room, Osama bin Laden was coming out of the closet.

    He was wearing his wife's burka and flaunting a winsome smile.

    When he spotted members of Seal Team 6 in the room, he shot his wife in the leg to cause confusion and dove for the window in what was considered by all present a 'cowardly' fashion.

    In the resulting confusion, he was dragged to the ground by the only canine member of the Seal team where he was subsequently shot, measured, and photographed.

    The Arab street is engaged by and deny the part about him coming out of the closet.




    Please Sam, no more.


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  82. Two items needing mentioning -

    Ahmadinajad Allies Charged With Sorcery

    In coming power struggle with Supreme Leader, Ahmad's boys charged with being in league with djinns. :) heh


    And, in the stupid boring R
    epublican debate, the one question the Nation yearns to have answered isn't even asked: how best to kill the wolves in the Lolo.

    dwr

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  83. Did the SEALS recover the burka???

    Would make good gift to the grandkids.

    The winsome smile evidently didn't survive the affair, judging by the after action photographic evidence.

    dwr

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  84. I know it's a futile argument without a conclusion - except after the fact - but I really do doubt the current crop of Iranians can be deterred from playing around with their coming on line nuclear weapons.

    dwr

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  85. Please Sam, no more.

    Don't listen to Quirk. You go, Sam.

    You might lead the conversation back to numbers, though.

    dwr

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