COLLECTIVE MADNESS
“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."
You can't make it up.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for bringing this to our attention.
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ReplyDeleteHey, foundations, trusts, etc. are what powerful rich people do when they want to make a buck and avoid taxes at the same time.
Under the Obama's plan all of us will have a vote in what the foundation does; however, I suspect major contributors will a BIG vote and really big contributors will have a REALLY BIG VOTE
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Trump's starting to rub off on you in a REALLY BIG WAY.
DeleteI don't see much wrong with it. They got no foreign policies to sell, like the Clinton Foundation. Like Quirk says, everybody wants a buck and pay no taxes at the same time. It'll pay their endless travel vacation expenses, and if a few pennies roll in to the hands of the poor in Detroit, there's a positive.
DeleteWhat his country needs in a National Farmers Charity Foundation, and, I aim to start it one of these days....what I desperately am looking for right now is a truly great advertising man....
'Charity From Farmers To Farmers For Farmers' - something along those lines....
'The Seed Corn For America's Future' - how does that sound ?
DeleteWe'll draw the suckers in with offers of free food for joining and paying the enrollment fee, something like this -
DeleteDear Fellow Patriot,
In a crisis, your #1 need is food.
But not just any food...
Experts say every senior needs to have non-perishable, good for 25 years survival food on hand in case of an emergency.
Well right now - in what is truly an unprecedented move - 72-hour Food4Patriots survival food kits are being given away to seniors as long as they beat the program deadline and while supplies last.
"Survival food is more important today than ever before," explains Frank Bates, a spokesman for the company. "Natural disasters, terrorist attacks and other threats can make obtaining sufficient food impossible in an emergency."
"None of us wants to ever rely on this or any government to feed us in a crisis," Bates says.
Food4Patriots survival foods are made of the finest ingredients, grown and packaged right here in the USA. They taste great and provide the nutrition you need.
Recent advancements in the processing and packaging have led to this food being guaranteed fresh for an amazing 25 years. Packages are made of military-grade Mylar, the same material used to protect NASA astronauts.
Every 72-hour kit that's being given away contains 4 servings each of such delicious meals as Liberty Bell Potato Cheddar Soup, Blue Ribbon Creamy Chicken Rice, Travelers Stew and the always-loved Granny’s Home-style Potato Soup.
This kit sells to the general public for $27.00 plus postage and has been rated 4.5 out of 5 stars by customers.
But seniors who act quickly can get them just for the $9.95 shipping and handling fee.
"We're trying to ensure that no one who wants this free food misses out, but they have to hurry because we have a limited supply of the 72-hour kits we can give away," Bates warned. "Once word got out that folks could actually get free survival food, we had to add extra customer service staff to keep up with incredible demand."
There is still time to take advantage of this offer, but be aware that supplies are limited and the program may end at any time.
>> Get Your Free 72-Hour Survival Food Kit
What a great deal - one can extend one's elder life by three days, and THEN starve to death -
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DeleteLess seedy than most, however, I have to question this...
'Charity From Farmers To Farmers For Farmers'
Isn't that concept rather circular, especially given the tight-fisted nature of most farmers?
Wouldn't it make sense to expand the the 'contributor' pool?
Just sayin.
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By George, I think you're on to something.
DeleteI will consider your post above as an application for my job of Advertising Secretary, National Farmers Charity Foundation.
The applications and resumes are rolling in by the thousands....
The more I think on it, I really like that idea of 'expanding the contributor pool'.
DeleteI am taking a serious look at you.
'Expanding the contributor pool' - by Wayne, that's got $$$$$ writen all over it....
DeleteYou are definitely 'in the running'.
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DeleteIf nominated, I will not run.
If elected, I will not serve.
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Fine.
DeleteIt's not an elected position.
You are chosen by the CEO of the Foundation, me, and an offer of payment for services rendered by you to the Foundation is made by the CEO, me, to you......
And I know you well enough to be able to say with certitude that if the inducement is high enough you'll serve.
I currently thinking of an opening offer.
Delete365 days of guaranteed free food supply, perhaps, with some green tea thrown in....
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DeleteIs it that 72-hour shit?
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No, no, no....not all of it....some is South Beach Diet, some from Beach Body Diet, some from Nutri-System for Men....right on down the line.....a whole variety of foods to keep you fat and happy !
DeleteAll you have to normally pay is the shipping costs !
DeleteAnd sometimes, occasionally, not even that !!
You'll also get a free 30 day supply of SuperBeets, with the free oxide level indicator strip included.
DeleteI am also looking for a brain information flow indicator strip for you, so you can check out how you're doing before posting here.
DeleteThin and blue, the strip goes across the forehead.
Added bonus: the Police may think this is in solidarity with them.
You might catch a break with your traffic tickets.
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DeleteWhat traffic tickets?
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Why Trump Should Support a Kurdish State
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I'll consider your post above as an application for my job opening of Advertising Secretary, National Farmers Charity Foundation.
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DeleteKind of corny.
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I take your criticisms very seriously, Sir, I wish you to know that.
DeleteYou may have to do better, Doug-O.
Don't take this personally, Doug.
DeleteI am looking for 'the right man for the particular job'.
You hail from honest farm folk, like myself.
I know I can't do this job, so I'm looking around....
I doubt that you have the basic dishonesty and shamelessness I am looking for, capable of bamboozling the people without remorse....
There is a place for you though somewhere in The Organization, perhaps just not in Advertising.
Pics of Women's March -
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4142950/Thousands-women-head-Washington-protest-Trump.html
"Pussy hat's" galore -
Pro-life women discouraged from coming....
This is not exactly what I envisioned when I hoped for a Women's March on Washington.
I was hoping to see some real support/solidarity for the truly repressed women in the world....particularly those in Moslem countries...
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ReplyDeleteWhy Trump Should Support a Kurdish State
More elitist nonsense from the neocon do-gooders demanding that the Kurds be given a state whether they want one or not. Clearly ignorant of the evolution of Kurdish thought and aspirations on the subject.
When the PKK was formed in the early 80's, the goal of the Kurds was self-determination through statehood. Recently, the talk of most of their leadership revolves around the concept of autonomy rather than statehood.
The concept of 'Democratic Confederalism' being pushed by Abdullah Ocalon, the imprisoned leader of the PKK and spiritual leader of the Kurds, seems very much utopian to me. Easy to understand though given he started out as a Marxist. However, the real point is why should some dick western nation(s) be telling the Kurds what is good for them?
The Kurds have a saying, 'The only allies the Kurds have are the mountains.' It's a truth most nations should learn quickly when Uncle Sam comes around offering to help them.
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DeleteOn the subject of US assistance and advice, one only has to look at USAID as an object lesson.
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Ask the one time President of Vietnam, Ngo Dinh Diem.
DeleteOh, that's right, he's dead.
Could ask the Shah of Iran, but he's dead, too.
Manual Noriega, now there is a possible interview, I don't think he's dead, but I am sure that he'll never get out of jail.
that the Kurds be given a state whether they want one or not
ReplyDeleteYou nitwit.
Of Course, they want a state.
Suggestions of some lesser form are simply efforts to create a beginning toehold, so to speak, most probably armed.
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DeleteMore elitist pap from an Idaho hick who's only knowledge of the near east is a weekend jaunt he took to Missoula, Montana for the cow chip throwing contest.
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There are no cows in Missoula, Montana, or around there, you urban child, thus, no cow chips. You must go further east, to the plains.
DeleteIt's was a steelhead fishing competition and I came in 3rd, which I thought was pretty good seeing as how I didn't really know the river as well as the locals.
The discovery of widespread FGM in Iraqi Kurdistan suggests the assumption to be incorrect that FGM is primarily an African phenomenon with only marginal occurrence in the eastern Islamic world. FGM is practiced at a rate of nearly 60 percent by Iraqi Kurds, then how prevalent is the practice in neighboring Syria where living conditions and cultural and religious practices are comparable?
DeleteWhy should a single US soldier die to protect this horrid cultural practice,
Answer US that Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson
Oh, provide a MAJOR Kurdish spokesperson that has RECENTLY advocated for a Kurdish State.
Tell us which existing States should be truncated to creat this supposed Kurdish State?
Iran, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, we can all assume, but why not have Syria cede the Golan Heights to Kurdistan, and then the Zionists could move back to the 1967 Israeli border.
Now, if that little land grab is included in the "Draft Dodger;s Middle East Partition Program", I'd give serious consideration to supporting it.
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LIES AND BIGGER LIES FROM THE PRESS
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In many and varied ways, that's the question that Sherrie Cohen, Judy Schwank, Ericka Hart, and other speakers at the Women's March on Philadelphia posed to the crowd of 50,000 who jammed Benjamin Franklin Parkway on Saturday.
The nation voted in November.
Donald Trump became president on Friday.
And on Saturday, more than a million women in Philadelphia, in Washington, and around the world marched in protest, in fear, in solidarity, and so often, in pink hats with pussy ears.
There was between 10-15 thousand in Philadelphia
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DeleteBetter get the interior Department involved. I'm sure they will be pissed by these unofficial crowd estimates.
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I wonder where one get's a pink hat with pussy ears ?
ReplyDeleteSounds like a collector's item to me.
I like this one of their slogans:
DeleteGRAB BACK !
I really like that Richard Fowler, lib though he is, who is showing up on Fox more and more.
ReplyDeleteHe's got a popular radio program somewhere I think.
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DeleteSeems like the typical lib to me. Maybe he can get you one of those pinks hats with the ears.
Wasn't he the guy who said on FOX that Jared Loughner, the guy who shot that female congressman and a bunch of others, was a Tea Party member or that he believed in their philosophy or was associated with them or some such bull? Seems like your typical hard left guy from the times I have seen him.
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He is a typical lib but it's a good idea to ask about the pussy hats. I mail email him. I'll ask for one for you too.
DeleteIf he said that about the TEA Party, I'm pissed.
The TEA Party does not advocate violence of any kind, much less assassinations.
I, actually, was a TEA Party member for one day, at the demo in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. I held a sign, and handed out three or four.
I have a picture of a pretty young woman holding one for me, and smiling.
Then I dropped out, knowing it would be taken over by the usual dick types, an attitude I got from you.
Heh, Trumps first day was laughable. What a clown show! Deuce's man just isn't very smart.
ReplyDeleteNow blow your nose horn, Clown.
DeleteSome of the women marching in the Women's March are so young they don't know that an equal pay for equal work law is already on the books.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963
Women in Europe, especially Germany and Sweden, really have something to march about......the moslems 'refugees' that are raping them all the time.
Lots of marching going on in Germany but don't know what their signs say.
You need to do a better job of listening to your betters, Ash.
Delete"Deuce's man just isn't very smart."
DeleteCHOICE: Clinton - Trump
DECISION: Easy - Trump
Trump has been in office two days. Trump did not run as Churchill or Roosevelt. He won and was elected because people did not want Clinton and they decided to take Trump.
All the smart guys than ran against the dumb Trump lost. The smart media lost. Smart Hollywood lost. Smart Democrats got slaughtered.
We shall see.
DeleteThe "People" voted for Mrs Clinton, she won the popular vote.
The States voted for Trump, he won the Electoral College.
The Electoral College DOES NOT represent the "People", it represents the States.
An important point of Constitutional reality we ALL should remember.
'Mad Dog' got confirmed 98 to 1.
ReplyDeleteThey are all going to get confirmed, though Chucky Schumer is trying to slow it down.
Pure obstructionism.
The FACT that the Republicans, who control the Senate, do not have every one of Mr Trumps nominees scheduled for a confirmation vote is just more proof that the "Party of Stupid" has not changed it's stripes.
DeleteThe Establishment in DC is doing it's best to slow down Mr Trump, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson. Mitch McConnell is leading the obstructionism.
He's the man in charge, not Mr Schumer.
The populist, anti-establishment parties of Europe are taking inspiration from the Presidency of Donald J Trump in the United States, remarks the Gatestone Institute in a new report.
ReplyDeleteInspired by the inauguration of U.S. President Donald J. Trump, the leaders of Europe’s main anti-establishment parties have held a pan-European rally aimed at coordinating a political strategy to mobilize potentially millions of disillusioned voters in upcoming elections in Germany, the Netherlands and France.
Appearing together in public for the first time, Marine Le Pen, leader of the French National Front, Frauke Petry, leader of the Alternative for Germany (AfD), Geert Wilders, leader of the Dutch Party for Freedom (PVV), Matteo Salvini, leader of Italy’s Northern League and Harald Vilimsky of Austria’s Freedom Party gathered on January 21 at a rally in Koblenz, Germany, where they called on European voters to participate in a “patriotic spring” to topple the European Union, reassert national sovereignty and secure national borders.
The two-hour rally was held under the banner of the Europe of Nations and Freedom (ENF), a group established in June 2015 by Members of the European Parliament from nine counties to oppose European federalism and the transfer of political power from voters to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, the de facto capital of the European Union.
Referring to the June 2016 decision by British voters to leave the European Union, and the rise of President Donald Trump in the United States, Le Pen said:
“We are living through the end of one world, and the birth of another. We are experiencing the return of nation-states. 2016 was the year the Anglo-Saxon world woke up. 2017, I am sure, will be the year in which the peoples of the European continent rise up.”
Trump is a counter-puncher. I can relate.
ReplyDeleteCounter-punchers are tough to beat. They tend to be faster and have a better reach. They bip when their opponent bops.
Frankly, they are more fun to watch.
They’re so much faster. Sometimes even taller and longer.
They move a lot.
And they hit you every time you try to come in on them.
Expert Boxing
DeleteTrump is flailing at windmills while spouting fantasy. His fury at having a smaller crowd just one example.
DeleteBeep Beep ! Beep Beep !!
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ReplyDeleteThere are no cows in Missoula, Montana, or around there, you urban child, thus, no cow chips. You must go further east, to the plains.
Silly boy. Montana is known for the special Spanish cow chips they import for their annual cow chip throwing contest. There is now speculation that Trump's threatened 35% tariff on imported goods will put an end to this unique piece of Americana.
It's was a steelhead fishing competition and I came in 3rd, which I thought was pretty good seeing as how I didn't really know the river as well as the locals...
...of which there were two.
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special Spanish cow chips
Delete:) heh That's a good one. Yup, special Spanish cow chips. Hardeharhar
of which there were two
You forgot the 'thousand'.
You eastern urbanidiots play Frisbee with cow chips from the Chicago stockyards !
DeleteNo,Trump is not flailing. He has however flummoxed the media and establishment.
ReplyDeleteThe flummoxed have lost to the deplorables and they are flailing around to figure and enact the best way to destroy Trump and his cause.
The establishment is working at DEFCON 1 to wreck Trump.
Compare that to to the second coming of Christ coverage of the anointed one where the entire media had on their knee pads to get down on Obama after he walked across the waters of the reflection pond.
I'll always remember the styrofoam pillars.
DeleteThe FACT that the Republicans, who control the Senate, do not have every one of Mr Trumps nominees scheduled for a confirmation vote is just more proof that the "Party of Stupid" has not changed it's stripes.
DeleteThe Establishment in DC is doing it's best to slow down Mr Trump ...
Mitch McConnell is leading the obstructionism.
NOTE FOR THE RECORD BOOKS
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump’s inauguration ratings were the second-highest in 36 years, according to Nielsen.
The swearing-in of the 45th president was seen by 30.6 million viewers across 12 networks.
The only inauguration over the last three decades that tops Trump’s number in the linear ratings? Barack Obama’s first inauguration back in 2009, which had a record-setting 37.8 million viewers. So Trump was down from the last new president to take office.
But before that, to get an Inauguration Day number this high, you’d have to go all the way back to Ronald Reagan in 1981, who was seen by 41.8 million viewers (Nielsen released tracking for inauguration ratings back to 1969).
Trump’s numbers are all the more remarkable considering he’s entering into office with rather low approval ratings compared to past presidents and sparked protests worldwide along with vows to not watch his inauguration.
And actually, Trump could have been seen by more viewers than either Obama or Reagan. Nielsen ratings do not account for online viewing
I watched online.
DeleteI bet Trump's numbers were actually larger.
Even with the bad weather.
Too bad Trump and his minions didn't point to those numbers. Instead they flayed about making demonstrably false assertions with Trump himself putting his foot in his mouth in front of a CIA memorial. Brilliant counter punching? Ummm no.
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DeleteExplain to me what difference viewing numbers mean in this case. Clearly its an indication of interest but are they interested because of admiration, curiosity, or fear?
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Let's hear a hymn for the establishment.
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DeleteChorus:
Swing low, sweet chariot
Coming for to carry me home
Swing low, sweet chariot
Coming for to carry me home
I looked over Jordan, and what did I see?
(Coming for to carry me home)
I saw a band of angels coming after me
(Coming for to carry me home)
Chorus:
If you get there before I do
(Coming for to carry me home)
Tell all my friends, I'm coming too
(Coming for to carry me home)
Chorus (3×)
DeleteHere you go ...
Battle Hymn of the Republic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5mmFPyDK_8
Wonder if Pat Robertson will tell US that God is unhappy with the inaugeration of Mr Trump as President of the USA?
ReplyDeleteAt least 11 killed as storms roar through Geogia
USA TODAY -
Eleven people were killed and more than 20 injured as violent storms rolled through parts of Georgia over the weekend, hours after deadly storms swept through southern Mississippi, authorities said Sunday.
It just shows God prefers southern Mississippi, which suffered only 4 dead, to Georgia, from which 11 were called home.
DeleteOr, seen another way, that God prefers Georgia, having called 11 home from this veil of tears from Georgia, over Mississippi's 4.
DeleteHey Deuce, do you think that the rise of nationalism is a good thing? I'm asking with respect to it rise elsewhere (i.e Europe, Russia, ect.) as well as in the US?
ReplyDeleteIntruding, you're safe enough in Canada from the scourge of the coming nationalism, since Canada, according to your new PM, has no core, hence no real nation.
DeleteOne day you may be a moslem nation, though.
Not bad, but comparing The Donald to Christ is a little much.
ReplyDeleteThis is a great beautiful line:
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea
At least I've always thought so.
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If cousin Sally dies, I'll joyfully let ya all know.
Christ died for Cousin Sally too, praise the Lord !
DeleteActually, we've made up.
Hemingway had it right:
"All they really argue about is the money"
Now that we have no monetary dispute, we're chums, and have had three wonderful luncheons together, going over all the old family photo albums.
Blood is thicker than water, but money is thicker than blood
DeleteSo you never really, truly, wished her dead, then?
DeleteGive it a break, "Draft Dodger", you will meet your Judgement, soon enough ...
Then you can mount a defense for your stealing from widows and orphans.
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You are beginning to hallucinate again.
DeleteTime for one of us to go away.
I'll take the burden.
Let the others put up with your shit.
Hey, maybe Quirk will psychoanalyze you again.
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ReplyDeleteTrump is an attention whore, a narcissist that just can't help making everything solely about him. People complained about Obama's use of the personal pronoun 'I". Wait until they get a couple months of Trump.
One has to wonder how long it will take him to change the 'I' to 'We", no not the inclusive 'we' the royal 'we'.
Fun to watch?
Perhaps, for some. I found his performance at the CIA yesterday embarrassing. It's the kind of thing that gets viewed all over the world and I didn't like it.
Counter puncher? I don't know much about counter punchers. Perhaps, it's true. Especially if most counter punchers suffer from a massive inferiority complex complicated by delusions of grandeur that render them so defensive they cannot accept the slightest perceived rebuke without striking back disproportionately. Or, if they are such applause whores they demand constant positive affirmation from anyone nearby, spouting how great they are and then asking 'Right? Don't you agree?'
Trump won on a populist message. I'm waiting to see how long it takes him to turn on the people that put him in the White House when they complain about some action he takes.
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The people will suddenly not be worthy of him.
DeleteIt's a close race between Obama and Trump as to which is the greater attention whore, and narcissist.
And I'm sick to death of the word 'amazing'.
It ought to be banned for a couple of years.
Tell US, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson about the Constitutional duties of the President?
ReplyDeleteIs not one of the PRIMARY duties of the President to enforce the Law?
Of course it is.
On Day 2 of the Trump Administration it is announced that Mr Trump is planning to ...
IGNORE the Law
The Trump administration may no longer enforce a rule requiring individual Americans to carry health insurance or pay a penalty if they do not, a senior White House official said on Sunday
Speaking on ABC's "This Week" program, Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president, said President Donald Trump "may stop enforcing the individual mandate."
Separately, on CBS' "Face the Nation" show, she reiterated Republican promises that no one would lose their health insurance under Obamacare while a replacement is being developed.
"For the 20 million who rely upon the Affordable Care Act in some form, they will not be without coverage during this transition time," she said.
Is not the President choosing to ignore the Law, to pick and choose which provisions the government will enforce essentially un-Constitutional?
This coming on Day 2 of the Trump era ... your prediction didn't last a day, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
Delete“The essence of fascism is to make laws forbidding everything and then enforce them selectively against your enemies.”
― John Lescroart
Happens with every President, Dead Beat Dad.
DeleteDid Obama enforce the nation's immigration laws ?
Do you, as lucid as a life long hop head, really want Trump to enforce the nation's federal marijuana laws ?
You be in jail, if jail is not where you are posting from....
I'm going to take a break.
Cheers to all you others !
By the way, the quote by Lescroat has some merit, but it applies to the USA not at all.
DeleteNBC: McCain and Graham to support Tillerson for Secretary of State
ReplyDeleteNYT :Report: Trump thought Spicer went too far at yesterday’s press conference
Byron York: Scenes from a pussy riot
http://hotair.com/
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DeleteWell, some might look at it that way. I mean, threatening to get even with the press for the bad coverage may be a little over the top.
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ReplyDeleteThe Establishment in DC is doing it's best to slow down Mr Trump ...
Mitch McConnell is leading the obstructionism.
While I can't applaud the establishment, I am usually fairly sanguine when they are not doing something. The CIA nomination is one example.
IMO, Pompeo s everything that disgusts me about the man he is to replace, Brennen. The longer Brennen is out and Pompeo is not in, the better for the country.
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DeleteThat may well be a "Good Thing", but the reality remains the same.
If Mr Trump's nominees are not scheduled for hearings and votes, it surly is not the responsibility of Chuck Schumer's to schedule those hearings and votes...
If Mr Trump's nominees are inept, incompetent or inane, well, then they mirror the Republican Establishment, which has failed to provide the Nation the Leadership Team it so desperately needs...
Mr Trump cannot Make America Great Again without his helpers on the job.
ReplyDeleteAfter Being Punched by Anti-Trump Protesters, Richard Spencer Demands ‘Alt-Right’ Vigilante Force
Richard Spencer told followers on Friday that he and fellow white supremacists might need their own protection force, after the ‘alt-right’ founder got punched in the face during an anti-Trump protest.
Spencer did not go into details but about what such protection would look like. “Antifa” is a term for anti-fascist demonstrators.
He filed a police report on Saturday, as he continued to tweet about the incident. “It was absolutely terrible,” he told CNN. “I’ve certain never had this happen before — a sucker punch in broad daylight.”
Since the election, Spencer has emerged as a premier movement representative, hosting a conference in Washington, D.C. where he led a Nazi salute and shouted “Hail Trump.”
http://forward.com/fast-forward/360757/after-being-punched-by-anti-trump-protesters-richard-spencer-demands-alt-ri/
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DeleteSounds like a real stand up guy.
I hear he is reviewing a couple of alternate designs for the uniforms of his force.
Paris says brown is in this year.
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Melania says blue, or white.
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ReplyDeleteThe "People" voted for Mrs Clinton, she won the popular vote.
The States voted for Trump, he won the Electoral College.
The Electoral College DOES NOT represent the "People", it represents the States.
An important point of Constitutional reality we ALL should remember.
You are being obtuse, rat.
You play under the rules of the game that are in place.
Had there been different rules, we have no idea who would have won. Trump didn't put any real effort in campaigning in California or New York just as Clinton didn't bother with Texas. There was no point under the current rules.
Had the rules been different, the campaigning would have been different. The result may 'or may not' have been different. We will never know.
You are starting to sound like a poor loser. Not very attractive.
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Psychoanalyze the asshole once again, would you ?
DeleteNot a poor loser, Q.
DeleteBut a defender of the FACTS.
The "People" DID NOT elect Mr Trump.
Deuce himself wrote about it.
It is the Electoral College that elects the President, and the Collegians represent the States, not the "People".
It is not obtuse, it is the Constitutional reality.
Rest assured, Q, the "People", the majority of the "People" DID NOT vote for Mr Trump.
To claim they did, a misrepresentation of the truth.
Fake News.
You need psychoanalysis desperately.
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Now, I certainly support the Electoral College.
DeleteMuch as I support the repeal of the 17th Amendment.
The Nation would be well served if the power of the State governments was reinstated in DC.
On of the primary checks on Federal power was removed with the enactment of the 17th Amendment, and the Nation has suffered by it...
Bye, Bye, Boobie
DeleteWhen the conversation moves beyond "feelings", well, then the "Draft Dodger" to moves on out.
DeleteIt is his pattern.
He sticks to it.
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DeleteBullshit, rat.
You cite irrelevant inanities.
To say the states elected Trump ignores the millions of people who voted in those states and determined which way the states would go.
You cite the silliness of the loser. The same people are whining that Bush didn't actually win in 2000.
Get over it.
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There is NOTHING to "get over", Q.
DeleteMr Trump is President ...
Like his GOP predecessor, George Bush Jr., he won the job with a MINORITY of the popular vote.
The popular vote is the vote of the "People", the Electoral College is the vote of the States.
That is how the system was designed. You should accept the reality that Mr Trump, like Mr Bush, like Mr Lincoln, is a President elected by a MINORITY of the "People".
Evidence that the US is still a Republic, not a Democracy.
DeleteAs for 'ignoring' that MINORITY of US voters in the MAJORITY of the States, that is not the case, at all.
It is, however, a recognition that Mr Trump was elected with fewer total popular votes than his opponent received.
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DeleteNo, rat. what you offer us trivia. A quibble. A factoid that has no relevance at all to the outcome of the election.
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The US is a Republican and a Democracy- they are not mutually exclusive.
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DeleteThat is not correct, Ash.
DeleteThe United States IS NOT a Democracy.
While the House of Representatives is a Democratic institution, the Senate is not.
The Executive is not. The Federal Judiciary is not.
The crux of the issue, the "People" DID NOT choose Mr Trump.
The States did, in a landslide.
The Constitution is quite clear on that point.
The Constitution spoke, the "People" were ignored.
That IS NOT Democracy, it is the hallmark of a Republic, though.
If one looks to Section II of the Constitution,you will see this ...
Delete2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
There is no instruction, in the Constitution, for the direct election of the Collegians.
None at all.
The Constitution does not establish a Democracy, not at all.
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Delete...the "People" were ignored.
Now, you are just being silly.
The conversation started out with your point that Trump lost the popular vote. My response...
...you offer us trivia. A quibble. A factoid that has no relevance at all to the outcome of the election.
Now, you deign to explain the Constitution to us. My questions remain...
You say Trump lost the popular vote.
So what?
What relevance does that factoid have to the election?
What is the point?
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DeleteWhy did you even bring it up?
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To get attention, that is the point.
DeleteHe's a monkey in a cage throwing turds. People watch.
He crazy, always has been.
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DeleteAs I see it, it is nothing but a whining excuse by the left for their inability to win an election they thought was in the bag and an attempt to claim that the trump presidency is somehow illegitimate.
Quite pitiful.
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I don't think you understand what a Democracy is Jack. It is not simply a system where majority rules.
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DeleteRead the Federalist Papers, Ash.
They explain, quite clearly, why the US is not a Democracy.
DeleteThe US Government was designed to protect the "Establishment".
In debate on June 26, he (James Madison) said that government ought to "protect the minority of the opulent against the majority" and that unchecked, democratic communities were subject to "the turbulency and weakness of unruly passions".
DeleteYour time outside the US, Ash, has, seemingly, lessened your appreciation of just what the US really is. Or, maybe, you never really knew.
But it is all there, in black and white, in the founding documents of our Republic.
DeleteThe point of bringing up the REALITY that Mr Trump does not represent the majority of the voters, but Mr Trump does represent the Federal government.
That to say that Mr Trump represents the "People" is not accurate, it is "Fake News".
That's why I brought it up, Q.
Sorry Jack but preventing a 'tyranny by a majority' does not render the process undemocratic.
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ReplyDeleteWashington (CNN)
President Donald Trump will not release his tax returns -- even after the audit he's frequently cited is completed -- senior adviser Kellyanne Conway said Sunday.
Fake News ?
Delete“Fake news” is so yesterday. “Alternative facts” is where it's at now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/22/kellyanne-conway-says-donald-trumps-team-has-alternate-facts-which-pretty-much-says-it-all/?utm_term=.9f91864e8ecb
DeleteOn Saturday in Spicer's statement and now Sunday in Conway's interview, the two are attempting to set a precedent that says they don't recognize the concept of facts as the media has come to define them; they have their own “alternative facts” and they'll rely on those.
And as brazen as it is, it's likely to appeal to that one-third of Americans the memo describes as being Trump's base. Polls have regularly shown a large portion of Republicans are more apt to believe Trump's claims even if they are pretty patently false, as Washington Post columnist Catherine Rampell wrote last month.
It's a symptom of media distrust.
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DeleteSaw an article in the WaPo headlined
Spicer's worst week in Washington
and, heck, it's not even over yet.
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DeleteThe Trump Team will be swimming up stream, no doubt of that.
The "Establishment" is far, far from dead.
Our "Draft Dodger" wants to see of their burial, but he's is so, so wrong.
Those that support the "Populist" position think that with the election of Mr Trump, they've won, The truth of it, the battle has just begun, and Team Trump has, at best, stumbled out of the starting gate.
DeleteOur "Draft Dodger" wants to sing of their burial, but he's is so, so wrong.
If I knew that Jack had kicked the bucket, I might hum a little ditty.
ReplyDeleteHappy days are here again tra la la
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DeleteSounds pretty gay ...
It is fitting, though, for you, "Draft Dodger".
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ReplyDelete<a href="http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/20/14335550/world-economic-forum-davos-2017-trump”>Davos Antigoniste</a>
<b>As Trump becomes president, the global elite at Davos wonder why people don’t like them</b>
<I>Through an incredibly fortuitous historical coincidence, the World Economic Forum — the premier confab of the global political and economic elite — is happening on the same day that Donald Trump is taking office in the United States. The dispatches from Davos, Switzerland (where the forum takes place), make it sound like a place of barely concealed panic.
Perhaps the best example, recorded by the New York Times’s Alexandra Stevenson, came at the panel on “the middle-class crisis” — the well-documented fact that the middle class in the developed world haven’t seen their incomes grow, and in many cases simply lost their jobs, over the course of the past 20 years. There are many reasons for this crisis, but two of the most notable — cutting the size of government and growing trade between the developed and developing world — are among the favored ideas of Davos-goers.
Here’s what one of the panelists, a wealthy hedge fund manager, had to say about the Trump phenomenon (per Stevenson):
“I want to be loud and clear: Populism scares me,” Ray Dalio, the billionaire hedge fund manager, said during a panel on how to fix the middle-class crisis. “The No. 1 issue economically as a market participant is how populism manifests itself over the next year or two.” But Mr. Dalio offered little by way of a solution, beyond opining on the positive aspects of loosening regulation and lowering taxes.
On the subject of rising populism, Mr. Dalio, who runs the $150 billion investment firm Bridgewater Associates, added: “It’s an anti-Davos way of operating.”
So to recap:
• Davos had a panel on the woes of the middle class starring a billionaire hedge fund manager.
• The billionaire’s only policy ideas were slashing government and lowering tax rates.
• He then condemned populism for being “an anti-Davos way of operating.”
There are multiple levels of poetic irony at work here.
The first, and most obvious, is an American billionaire at a ski resort in Switzerland claiming to speak for the middle class. The second is that this is happening while Trump is literally preparing to take office, showing the Davos confab to be profoundly out of touch with the political realities of the world’s wealthiest country. The third is that people like Dalio are terrified of Trump when his actual budget — which may contain up to $10.5 trillion in spending and tax cuts — is the same kind of thing that Dalio sees as an answer to the Trump phenomenon.
Dalio is also focusing on the wrong problems. The best evidence suggests that the “middle-class crisis,” real though it is, is not the reason for the rise of Trump and similar right-wing populists in Europe. Instead, these movements are a reaction to mass immigration and multiculturalism, a kind of white riot against the rising status of nonwhite, non-Christian minority groups. If we want to talk about responses to Trump, we need to start with figuring out how to acclimate the West’s majorities to an inevitably multicultural future.
But one thing is for sure: A bunch of superrich people getting together and talking about the need for policies that would serve mostly to make themselves richer is not exactly an effective response to ordinary Americans feeling like the global elite is out of touch. Davos has never felt less relevant.</I>
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Van Jones investigates Detroit's black vote -
DeleteHaven't watched any of these yet, but heard some clips on a podcast.
Some pointed to the fact that the Dems pay more attention to the tiny numbers of LGBT and "immigrants" than they do to the entire black community.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=van%20jones%20interviews%20blacks%20in%20detroit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JVR9waCjZI
DeleteOld farts manipulating data, expecting to get the Bernie Vote for free.
Delete"Data Don't Vote"
But if it's collected and used by young Mr. Kushner, it was what Trump needed to get over the line.
Ash Sun Jan 22, 12:33:00 PM EST
DeleteHey Deuce, do you think that the rise of nationalism is a good thing?
Maybe.
We have tried internationalism or globalism and that has not gone well. It seems to end up in tyranny, war and empire.
Recent examples are global communism which ended badly and the US attempt to establish a global order and standard of governance has generated a debt of trillions, a fifteen year ongoing war, millions dead and tens of millions of refugees.
The first global experiment was the Roman Empire and that led to the great Christian conversions and the genocidal expansion of the Americas.
The consolidation under Xi'an in China (regional globalism) resulted in the death of millions.
When the globalists opened up China, they predicted fax machines would end the communist system.Instead it established a rich repressive regime and another major military power.
I think the biggest genocidals of them all have been the Moslems, though it's obviously tough getting certified figures.
Delete80,000,000 million Hindus in one 250 year period alone gives a hint.
I love the way they compose and crop the shots of the Women's Marches to try to make them look larger than they are, while doing the opposite to Trump.
ReplyDeleteLos Angeles:
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5884a3a7/turbine/la-me-womens-march-los-angeles-20170121/550/550x309
Massive women's march in downtown L.A. said to be largest in over a decade
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...there was some Hispanic deal that was many times larger, far as I can tell.
I have no idea at all what they are marching about, other than abortion rights.
DeleteThe ought to be marching in solidarity with the truly oppressed women of the world, the worst being in the Moslem nations.
They didn't allow pro-life women to join in....there's going to be another women's march soon....that includes pro-life women.
I hope someone at least holds up a sign that says "Free the women of Saudi Arabia, Iran...etc"
President Kennedy signed the first equal pay for equal work law in 1963.
DeleteIf you're not getting equal pay for equal work, get a lawyer.
DeleteI've wondered how this might apply in the case of pornography stars.
Surely the stunningly beautiful female or the quirkesque studly male must be getting more than the partner at times.
Question for the Supreme Court:
Is the work the same ?
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ReplyDeleteTrump's (and his spokepeople's) concentration on the size of a crowd when there are so many other important issues out there that need to be addressed is childish and petty.
Is this what we are in store for over the next four years.?
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ReplyDeleteThat to say that Mr Trump represents the "People" is not accurate, it is "Fake News".
That may very well be true; but your argument that the vote count proves it is just plain silly.
You at least answered my question on to what your point was, rat.
Of course, it was a silly point with no basis in fact. Vote count under the existing rules proves nothing. We don't know what the vote count would be under different rules. You can speculate all you want but you have no way of proving your position.
Thus my point that your point is pointless.
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How can a point be pointless?
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DeleteIt's a mystery of the universe, Doug.
It is best explained in the 'secret knowledge' currently on sale at the Rosicrucian Temple in San Jose, Ca. (AMORC) or at other centers around the world.
Remember,
As above, so below.
Peace, brother.
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"You have no point, sir!"
ReplyDeleteWould have sufficed.
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DeleteBut, would it.
Would it really, Doug?
Think about it.
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ReplyDeleteAs to your conclusion that the US is a republic but is not a democracy, I'll have to disagree with you there too. It's falls into the same class of argument you gave when you objected to the use of the name American to represent the US. It fails to recognize that words can have multiple meanings. It fails to understand the context they are used in. It fails to recognize how word meanings can be modified and gain acceptance through common usage or that literal meanings sometimes are not the commonly accepted meanings.
The arguments over 'direct democracy' and 'representative democracy' have been with us since the time of the nations founding. They were mentioned in the Federalist papers and by guys like Jefferson, Adams, and others.
Just as direct democracy is often shortened to the single word democracy so are those representing the concept of representative democracy. In both cases, with no loss in meaning or understanding.
The US is a representative democracy. And of course, it's fine to call it a democracy.
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Delete...the name America...
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Just so.
DeleteIf we want to change from the electoral college on selecting a President, the Constitutional Amendment process is right over there, in another part of the Constitution.
DeleteTexas might take the opportunity it wisely provided itself to opt out of the union of STATES, who knows.
All sorts of things could happen.
Welp, here we go. Israel announced further building in occupied territory. Who woulda thunk? Think Deuce's man Trump will do anything? No way.
ReplyDeleteTrumps a pussy.
DeleteTrump's a pussy!
DeleteThat better?
The US Embassy is heading to Jerusalem, too.
DeleteWelp !
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DeleteIt was happening slowly anyway. Trump is merely a catalyst to precipitate the process.
The end result of the experiment will be the interesting part.
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DeleteThat's for sure.
January 22, 2017
DeleteWhat Sort of Compromise Do the Arabs Want with Israel?
By Kenneth Eliasberg
Arab-Israeli "peace talks" have been going on for the better part of a century, without even a hint of serious progress. The reason is quite simple: the Arabs don't want peace with Israel. They just don't want Israel, and they will come up with any excuse for frustrating the possibility, let alone the prospect, of a peaceful resolution.
At the outset, it might be helpful to focus in on our terms. When we speak of Arabs, we are usually focused on "Palestinians" (although the entire Arab world seems to be united behind the concept of driving Israel out of the Middle East; their larger goal – which some of them have openly admitted – is the extermination of Jewry in general – i.e. to complete the job undertaken by Hitler, with whom they were joined at the hip during WWII).
Also, it is important to note (and emphasize) that there has never been a Palestinian "nation" – only a land mass designated as Palestine at the close of WWI with the destruction of the Ottoman Empire, under whose rule that mass had been presided over....
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/01/what_sort_of_compromise_do_the_arabs_want_with_israel.html
The Moslems didn't want the Hindus either, and killed 80 million of them in one 250 year period alone.
DeleteWelp.
DeleteThe current alleged stumbling block to "peace" is the Jewish "settlements" in the West Bank – which constitute less than 2% of the West Bank's land mass (more than 40% of which is unpopulated). The Arabs insist on a Jew-free territory! Isn't this ethnic cleansing? Over 1,500,000 Arabs (Muslims) are "settled" in Israel – as citizens, where they enjoy the highest standard living of Muslims residing in any other country (with the possible exception of America). The Arabs have run almost 1,000,000 Jews out of Arab countries where the Jews have resided for hundreds of years, and they are now turning their attention to that other group of "infidels," Christians – whom they are slaughtering with impunity.
DeleteWelp.
Ash is getting caught up in Girl's Day.
DeleteHe never seems to give a thought to the historical slaughter of Jews...Christians...Hindus...and so many others....
DeleteDennis Kucinich, one of my favorites, goes profound:
ReplyDelete"We got to find a way to bring the country together !"
Ah, Lord, he thought so deeply before he said it, too.
"What do you think, Dennis ?"
After much thought and brow furrowing:
"We got to find a way to bring the country together !"
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Let's ban 'bring America together' and 'amazing' for at least 2 years.
And 'Welp' too.
DeleteAshSun Jan 22, 08:52:00 PM EST
ReplyDeleteWelp, here we go. Israel announced further building in occupied territory.
The lands are "disputed"...
get with the program you occupying SOB...
You are a real occupier of other people's lands... There is NO dispute. You squat on the native American's lands.
I'm thinking of calling Ash 'Welp' from now on....or perhaps well’p or wellp....but never whelp, which refers to dogs....
ReplyDeleteThe Twitter version of welp signifies the speaker’s reluctance or lack of enthusiasm for something that is finished or unchangeable; it is, roughly speaking, a linguistic shrug, which you might imagine as a combination of well and a gulp.