A leading Russian opposition politician, former Deputy Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov, has been shot dead in Moscow, Russian officials say.
An unidentified attacker in a car shot Mr Nemtsov four times in the back as he crossed a bridge in view of the Kremlin, police say.
He died hours after appealing for support for a march on Sunday in Moscow against the war in Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has condemned the murder, the Kremlin says.
KIEV, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said on Saturday Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov was murdered because he planned to disclose evidence of Russia's involvement in Ukraine's separatist conflict.
ReplyDeletePoroshenko paid tribute to Nemtsov, who was shot dead late on Friday, and said the fierce critic of President Vladimir Putin had told him a couple of weeks ago that he had proof of Russia's role in the Ukraine crisis and would reveal it.
"He said he would reveal persuasive evidence of the involvement of Russian armed forces in Ukraine. Someone was very afraid of this ... They killed him," Poroshenko said in televised comments during a visit to the city of Vinnytsia.
More than 5,600 people have been killed since pro-Russian separatists rebelled in east Ukraine last April, after the ousting of a Moscow-backed president in Kiev and Russia's annexation of the Crimea peninsula.
Kiev and its Western allies say the rebels are funded and armed by Moscow, and backed by Russian military units. Moscow denies aiding sympathizers in Ukraine, and says heavily armed Russian-speaking troops operating without insignia there are not its men. (Reporting by Alessandra Prentice and Polina Devitt,; Additional reporting by Margarita Chornokondratenko,; Editing by Alexander Winning and Timothy Heritage)
Jack HawkinsSat Feb 28, 11:42:00 AM EST
ReplyDeleteISrael is where the European Zionist invaders are, it is where they have been.
It is the crux of the challenge, the most obvious vestige of British Colonialism in Arabia.
Sorry Jack but you forgot to mention that Israel is where almost the entire Jewish population of the Middle east (historically) fled too, with the exception of the Jews already there...
Learn history while you are occupying native american lands condemning Jews for living in their historic lands...
The Jewish population had lived in those Middle Eastern lands since the advent of Islam.
DeleteThey only had to leave, AFTER the European Zionists invaded Arabbia, in the name of Jewry and Judaism.
That was the cause of the political upheaval, nothing else.
The Jews had lived under Islamic administration of their homelands for 1400 years.
History is clear on that point.
It was the Zionist invasion, as part and parcel of British Colonialism, that radicalized the Muslims.
Read a book, other than the Talmud and learn something.
If the European Zionists, the folks you refer to as Jews, were going to return to their historic homeland ...
DeleteThat would be Khazaristan.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/khazar03_01.jpg - there is the map of the place, as an author I have fulfilled my duty.
As a reader, you should fulfill yours and check it out.
Whether or not you do your duty, matters not at all to me.
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DeleteI don't have much times for folklore and fairy tales these days, rat.
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Then go back a thread and read about Libya and their version of al-Sisi.
DeleteBut the idea that the Ashkenazi have a historic homeland in Arabia, a grander myth and funnier folklore than the history of Khazaristan
You can peddle your shit til the sun explodes.
DeleteJews KNOW who Jews are, we don't need your approval.
But once again, you are peeing in the wind and all you do is get wet.
You sound insane.
GOOD
When it comes to myth, the Zionists have propagated a grand one, no doubt
DeleteThe notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is without foundation.
The recent study by John Hopkins geneticist Dr Elhaik confirms...
that the common genome structure of the European Jew gravitated towards an origin in old Khazaria.
“The majority of Jews do not have Middle Eastern genetic component,” he told Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
Founded on a mélange of myths and manufactured historical tales,
Israel has failed the archaeological test of time and is now exposed by DNA science.
Today’s genetics prove unequivocally that in 1948 “the children of the original Jews” were replaced by converts ...
With no roots in the Middle East.
http://www.redressonline.com/2013/02/the-myth-of-the-jewish-people/
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DeleteBut the idea that the Ashkenazi have a historic homeland in Arabia, a grander myth and funnier folklore than the history of Khazaristan
Well, there is no denying your expertise in the area myth and folklore.
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Russia, under Putin, supports Iran...
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And Russia supports Syria,
DeleteSyria and Iran, the two countries that have done the most in assisting in the fight against ISIS
While ISrael provides ISIS with air support, medical support and other forms of succor ...
ISrael prefers al-Qeada
- Michael Oren, ISrael's Ambassador to the United States when he made the statement
Syria created ISIS by mass murdering 300.000 sunni arabs.
DeleteYour ignorance of what has happened on the ground in Syria grows ever larger by the day
Syria, with Hezbollah and Iran and Russian logistics have committed a modern day genocide in Syria.
Over 10 million people are refugees and 300,000 dead.
And all you can do is post misleading, out of context bullshit...
You cannot post a fact, to save your life, "O"rdure.
DeleteI quote Michael Oren
You libel Rocco Wachman.
I reference articles in the JPost and Haaretz.
DeleteYou pull shit out of your ass.
You libel Jews in the United States and think nothing of it.
I quote the Israeli Ambassador to the United States.
http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328.
ISrael prefers al-Qeada
“We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” Oren said in the interview.
Michael Oren
you quote out of context and misleading statements.,
DeleteFACT Syria's Assad with Iranians and Hezbollah help and Russian logistical support murdered 300,000 sunni arabs and made refugees out of 10 million, that created ISIS.
that's a fact Jack.
if you are too ignorant to learn and evolve?
too bad...
DeleteIt is about the ISraeli preference for al-Qeada, their active support of ISIS.
It is about your libel of Rocco Wachman.
That is the all that matters, in this discussion.
By Alan Hart
ReplyDeleteIf perverted and violent Islamic fundamentalism (PVIF) in all of its manifestations is to be contained and defeated there’s one thing above all others that must happen: Western leaders, starting with President Barack Obama, must open their minds to the fact that consequences have causes and then address the causes.
There are two main and related causes of PVIF.
(1) American-led Western foreign policy for the Arab and wider Muslim world, including its double standard as demonstrated by refusal to call and hold Israel to account for its defiance of international law and rejection of the Palestinian claim for justice.
(2) The corruption, authoritarianism and repression of most if not all Arab and other Muslim regimes. In most cases they are regimes supported/endorsed by American-led Western foreign policy.
1 and 2 cause or provoke Muslim hurt, humiliation, anger and the despair of no hope. Generally speaking, these feelings do not of themselves turn Muslims into killers and terrorists or even supporters of those who do the killing and/or order it. The real problem is the exploitation and manipulation of these feelings by deluded or mad preachers and other self-styled leaders who misinterpret and pervert Islam for their own purposes.
Regarding 1 above, there are some commentators who assert that American-led Western foreign policy created Al-Qaeda and so-called “Islamic State” [formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and Syria – ISIS – and Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant – ISIL]. I think a more accurate summary statement of what happened is that American-led Western foreign policy created the environment and the conditions in which PVIF could emerge and grow.
DeleteProfessor Fawaz Gerges of the London School of Economics put it this way:
Between 2003 and 2010, the power vacuum and armed resistance triggered by the US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq, as well as the dismantling of Saddam Hussein’s former ruling Baath party and the Iraqi army, provided a fertile terrain for Al-Qaeda’s growth and an opportunity to infiltrate the increasingly fragile body politic.
He added, and I agree with him, that ISIS is “a manifestation of the breakdown of state institutions, dismal socio-economic conditions and the spread of sectarian fires in the region”.
The view of John Feffer, Co-Director of Foreign Policy in Focus at the Institute for Policy Studies, on events, with which I also agree, is that “ISIS is decidedly a homegrown product of the turmoil that has engulfed two states: Iraq since the US invasion in 2003 and Syria since the aborted Arab Spring uprising that began in 2011”.
I stand by the view I expressed when President George W. Bush had a premature political ejaculation and claimed victory in Iraq. I wrote at the time that he and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair were the best recruiting sergeants for violent Islamic fundamentalism. (The question arising is did they know what they were doing – I mean were they committed to the neo-conservative agenda and wanting to create an enemy, or were they just ignorant and stupid?)
Regarding (2) above, with words President Obama himself has gone some way to acknowledging that the corruption, authoritarianism and repression of Arab and other Muslim regimes is one of the main causes of the rise and growth of PVIF.
DeleteIn an editorial for the Los Angeles Times the day before the opening in Washington DC of the three-day summit on combating extremism, he wrote:
Groups like al Qaeda and ISIL exploit the anger that festers when people feel that injustice and corruption leave them with no chance of improving their lives. The world has to offer today’s youth something better.
Governments that deny human rights play into the hands of extremists who claim that violence is the only way to achieve change. Efforts to counter violent extremism will only succeed if citizens can address legitimate grievances through the democratic process and express themselves through strong civil societies. Those efforts must be matched by economic, educational and entrepreneurial development so people have hope for a life of dignity.
Unfortunately, they were only words. And the question I would put to Obama is this. Can you name me one Arab country in which citizens can address legitimate grievances through the democratic process and express themselves through strong civil societies?
An honest reply would be “NO!”
If President Obama and other Western leaders were prepared to get to grips with the causes of PVIF instead of addressing only its consequences, there are two things they could do to vastly improve the prospects of containing and defeating it.
One would be to use their influence with leverage as necessary to persuade Arab leaders that it really is time for authoritarianism to give way to democracy. If Arab leaders agreed (no matter how reluctantly), this would rob PVIF of its most persuasive argument: that the Arab and other Muslim masses have nothing to gain from politics and non-violent demands for change.
The other would be to use as necessary the leverage they have to cause Israel to end its defiance of international law. The double standard of Western foreign policy which allows Israel to commit crimes with impunity is the cancer at the heart of international affairs. If it was cured a major cause of Arab and other Muslim hurt, humiliation and anger would be removed, and that would make closing the vast majority of Arab and other Muslim hearts and minds to PVIF propaganda a mission possible.
The above should not be taken to mean or imply that I have more than the smallest amount of hope that Western leaders will have the good sense to come to grips with the main causes of PVIF. I am only saying what I think could happen if they did.
http://www.redressonline.com/2015/02/how-to-defeat-violent-islamic-fundamentalism/
DeleteThe double standard of Western foreign policy which allows Israel to commit crimes with impunity is the cancer at the heart of international affairs.
DeleteDear Friend,
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a teenager, I told my dad I wanted to be an actor. In response, he gave me the only piece of advice he ever offered me--"Learn to play the accordion." And he was serious. He said, "You can always make a living with an accordion."
Because I ignored his advice, I never found out if he was right. Instead, I've lived 80 creative years pursuing acting and photography, and working as a director and poet.
If I had listened to my father, and hadn't done any of those things, chances are you wouldn't have recognized my name and you wouldn't be reading this. Now that you are, I'd like to ask you to consider what I have to say. I reach out to you as someone who is troubled to see the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians continue apparently without an end in sight.
In fact, there is an end in sight. It's known as the two-state solution--a secure, democratic Israel as the Jewish State alongside an independent Palestinian state. Even Israel's nationalist Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, has come to see this as the shape of the future. The problem is how to reach that end point. It's something we should be concerned about--not only as world citizens, but as Americans.
You might recall the episode in the original Star Trek series called, "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield." Two men, half black, half white, are the last survivors of their peoples who have been at war with each other for thousands of years, yet the Enterprise crew could find no differences separating these two raging men.
But the antagonists were keenly aware of their differences--one man was white on the right side, the other was black on the right side. And they were prepared to battle to the death to defend the memory of their people who died from the atrocities committed by the other.
The story was a myth, of course, and by invoking it I don't mean to belittle the very real issues that divide Israelis and Palestinians. What I do mean to suggest is that the time for recriminations is over. Assigning blame over all other priorities is self-defeating. Myth can be a snare. The two sides need our help to evade the snare and search for a way to compromise.
This is the message that Americans for Peace Now seeks to spread. I'm a strong supporter of APN and the work it does. It is a leading voice for Americans who support Israel and know that a negotiated peace will ensure Israel’s security, prosperity and continued viability as a Jewish and democratic state.
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DeleteThe Middle East is only getting more tumultuous. The upheavals throughout the region show that what happens in the Middle East can't help but affect us in the United States. This year, we've seen oil prices rise sharply and America become involved militarily in Libya. The cost to American lives and our economy continues to rise at a time when unemployment and deficits are sapping our country's strength.
"If we can solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, then that will make it easier for Arab states and the Gulf states to support us when it comes to issues like Iraq and Afghanistan. It will also weaken Iran, which has been using Hamas and Hezbollah as a way to stir up mischief in the region."
Those are the words of candidate Barack Obama in 2008. And although they're just as accurate today, time has not stood still.
We've also seen a marked increase in violence: a Jewish family was murdered in the West Bank and a woman is killed in a bus bombing in Jerusalem. A rocket attack on southern Israel from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip resulted in a school bus being hit and a teen died of his wounds. Israel, in turn, has retaliated. We need strong American leadership now to pivot from the zero-sum mentality of violence to an attitude that focuses on the parties shared interests: security and prosperity.
If you've learned something from this letter, I've succeeded in my preliminary task. Now I ask for your support to continue APN's educational efforts in this country--to spread the message that there is a peace solution, and to let Congress and the White House know it's preferable for America to be part of the solution than to be drawn into another conflict.
There is a sizable number of influential voices in Israel saying the same thing. In April, a group of 50 prominent Israelis, including the former heads of the Mossad (Israel's CIA), the Shin Bet (its FBI), and the military, issued a call for two states for two nations. Their plan includes a Palestinian state alongside Israel with agreed-upon land swaps. The Palestinian-populated areas of Jerusalem would become the capital of Palestine; the Jewish-populated areas the capital of Israel.
These experts are not naïve. They know that even if the Palestinian pragmatists of Fatah reconcile with Hamas, there will be extremists who will try to sabotage any future peace deal. They know how to deal with violent extremists. These people were entrusted with Israel's security and are saying that the work they did alone isn't enough to bring Israel security. We cannot know yet what this unification of Hamas with Fatah means and we have to wait and see what emerges. Regardless, the principle of establishing two independent states, one Jewish and the other Palestinian, is still critical in this region for both Israel and the Palestinian people. That is the goal, to support the rational and moderate course.
Their action plan echoes the 348 senior Israeli reserve army officers and combat soldiers who came together in 1978 to urge their government to sign a peace treaty with Egypt. They formed Shalom Achshav, Israel’s Peace Now movement which APN provides nearly 50 percent of their funding.
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DeletePeace Now's activities and programs--such as Settlement Watch, the ongoing monitoring of settlement construction on the West Bank--keep peace on the world's agenda. Peace Now gathers and publishes detailed information on settlements and is widely cited in Israeli and international media as the foremost authority on settlements. Peace Now is likewise well known for mobilizing demonstrations and organizing grassroots pro-peace activities. Innovations include an interactive online map of the settlements, "Facts on the Ground," also available as an app for iPhone and iPad developed by APN applying Peace Now's courageous work.
Like those Israelis who issued the peace plan, the members of Peace Now have their boots on the ground. They serve in Israel's military reserves and see every day what life is like without a negotiated peace with the Palestinians.
That's why I'm a supporter of APN and Peace Now.
I hope you'll join me, and lend your voice to the influential and credible peace lobby that exists here as well as in Israel. Please give the tax-deductible contribution you can afford.
Dare I say it? It's the logical thing to do.
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Many Jews, INCLUDING ME, advocated land for peace.
DeleteWe advocated and LOBBIED the AIPAC position to withdraw from Gaza without anything.
Just give peace a chance.
But the times proved otherwise.
The reason Peace Now and others gave up?
The war the Palestinians started after giving up lands for peace got nothing but land for rockets.
You can always go back in time and pull a statement of what someone said in a different time or age and apply today's situation to it, but it is bullcrap..
IF only the Palestinians had accepted partition, if only they accept any one of a 1/2 serious offers for peace..
but THEY didn't...
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I see on the last thread Rufus is catching the sickness.
ReplyDeleteTold you he was an ignorant old smelly racist, full of Budweiser and Beam and belching thoughtlessness.
Wonderful day out this way today, blue sky, blue waters.......spring just around the corner......
U of Kentucky is #1 in college basketball this year, clobbered Arkansas today.
Wife is a big Kentucky fan, having graduated from UK.
Casino time.....
Cheers !
Legionnaire Q now denies science.
ReplyDeleteHe must be one of those that believes the world and all "Creation" is 6,000 years old.
Perhaps he thinks that men rode dinosaurs, that the "Flintstones" was a documentary.
The science of genetics, DNA, is dismissed as a myth and fairy tale, by a "True Believer".
The myths of Egypt, accepted as fact, while science is denied.
Interesting point of view, Legionnaire Q must be a Republican.
He certainly is not an independent thinker.
I think it was 57% of Republicans that do not believe in Evolution.
DeleteNo, it was 49% don't believe in evolution
Delete37% that do.
37%
Okay, it's 2015
DeleteThat's Two Thousand, and freakin' fifteen
and we have this major AMERICAN political party, of which, only 37% believe in Evolution.
That's 3. 7. %
Said Party controls the Senate, the House, the majority of State Governments, and could quite likely win the Presidency in 2016.
Scared yet?
DeleteJohn Hopkins University, a temple to the myth of genetics, the fairy tale of DNA
DeleteNah, I think not.
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DeleteNah, I think not.
Of course you think not, rat. It doesn’t fit with your anti-Jewish meme.
From Wiki,
In the late 19th century, Ernest Renan and other scholars speculated that the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe had their origin in Turkic refugees that had migrated from the collapsed Khazarian Khanate westward into the Rhineland, and exchanged their native Khazar language with the Yiddish language while continuing to practice the Jewish religion.
This theory has had a complex history, within and beyond Judaism. Major scholars have either defended it or dismissed it as a pure fantasy. It has also been seized on at times by antisemites and/or anti-Zionists for various purposes, to argue for the idea that Ashkenazi Jews have no ancestral connection to ancient Israel. The theory is met with scepticism or caution by most scholars.[2][3]
The usual rat-droppings,
Legionnaire Q now denies science...
The science of genetics, DNA, is dismissed as a myth and fairy tale...
He certainly is not an independent thinker...
John Hopkins University, a temple to the myth of genetics, the fairy tale of DNA...
And the hick from Mississippi guffaws.
:o)
Yuck. Yuck.
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Genetic studies
Many argue that genetic studies on Jewish populations have refuted any claims of significant Khazar lineage, and have shown that most ethnic Jews draw their roots from the Middle East.[3]A genetic study led by Gil Atzmon found that European Jews were most closely related to Middle-Eastern Jews, Palestinians, Druze, and non-Jewish Southern Europeans - evidence inconsistent with Khazar/Slavic hypotheses.[4] Another genetic study led by Doron Behar found that, despite admixture from local populations, autosomal genetic samples from the Ashkenazi Jews, Caucasian Jews, Middle Eastern Jews, North African Jews, and Sephardi Jews form a relatively tight genetic cluster which overlaps with Samaritans and Israeli Druze which is strongly indicative of common Levantine ancestry.[5]
This argument has been challenged by one recent genetic study by Johns Hopkins University geneticist Dr. Eran Elhaik.[6][7] However, Elhaik’s study does not fully address the findings of previous studies, particularly the overlap between Ashkenazi Jewish populations and native endogamous Levantine populations such as the Samaritans and Druze. Elhaik’s use of Palestinian Arabs as representative of ancestral Israelite genetics is questionable in light of previous genetic studies which have uncovered evidence of significant African gene flow present in Arab, but not non-Arab Middle-Eastern populations.[8][9] Blogger Razib Khan argues Elhaik’s conclusions rely on poorly reasoned assumptions and that “the Caucasian component that is being detected in this paper may simply be a indigenous Middle Eastern ancestral element which has now been somewhat displaced northward in its modal frequency due to the expansion of the Arabs.”[10]
None of these studies of Ashkenazi Jews have detected evidence of a significant Central or East Asian genetic component which is present in other Turkic populations. The actual Khazars would likely have been assimilated by the Krymchaks (Crimean Jews) following the fall of the Khazars. Even so, the Krymchaks had a long history of assimilating other Jews who came to the Crimea, so their ancestry is still largely Levantine.[11]
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/khazar_myth
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DeleteGeneticist Eran Elhaik has argued that his genetic work proves the Khazar hypothesis. Elhaik writes: “Strong evidence for the Khazarian hypothesis is the clustering of European Jews with the populations that reside on opposite ends of ancient Khazaria: Armenians, Georgians, and Azerbaijani Jews. Because Caucasus populations remained relatively isolated in the Caucasus region and because there are no records of Caucasus populations mass-migrating to Eastern and Central Europe prior to the fall of Khazaria (Balanovsky et al. 2011), these findings imply a shared origin for European Jews and Caucasus populations.”[76] Elhaik’s conclusions were widely reported.[77]
However, the majority consensus of geneticists conducting Jewish genetic experimentation have refuted Dr. Elhaik’s methods and work. University of Arizona geneticist Michael Hammer called Elhaik’s premise “unrealistic,” calling Elhaik and other Khazarian hypothesis proponents “outlier folks… who have a minority view that’s not supported scientifically. I think the arguments they make are pretty weak and stretching what we know.” Marcus Feldman, director of Stanford University’s Morrison Institute for Population and Resource Studies, echoes Hammer. “If you take all of the careful genetic population analysis that has been done over the last 15 years… there’s no doubt about the common Middle Eastern origin,” he said. He added that Elhaik’s paper “is sort of a one-off.” Elhaik’s statistical analysis would not pass muster with most contemporary scholars, Feldman said: “He appears to be applying the statistics in a way that gives him different results from what everybody else has obtained from essentially similar data.”[78]
I don’t deny DNA evidence, rat, I just deny speculation based on questionable DNA studies.
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I "guffawed?"
DeleteMy recollection is that I simply pointed out that only 37% of Republicans believe in Evolution.
That is not something that I would "guffaw" about.
Cry, perhaps.
Of course, I might be having a brain hemorrhage, or somesuch neurological event. Maybe, you could direct me to the comment in which I "guffawed."
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DeletePoetic license.
I actually didn't think you would respond to the 'hick from Mississippi' designation.
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Yeah, I guess I just don't appreciate good "poetry" -
Deletebein' a "hick," and all.
Call the folks at Haaretz, Legionnaire, and let them know that wikipedia quotes folks from Arizona that disagree with the facts, as they report them, about Jewry.
DeleteBut it is interesting that you would give more credence to an Arizona hick than a cosmopolitan from John Hopkins in Baltimore, Maryland.
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DeleteJeez, rat, do you even consider what you are saying? Do you believe every study that gets reported in Haaretz always ends up being true. Do you believe every research study coming out of John Hopkins must be true?
Is that your idea of an 'independent thinker'?
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DeleteBut hey, the guy is a 'cosmopolitan' researcher from New England.
But why it doesn't matter anyway,
Though Ashkenazi Jews are the largest ethnic group of Jews today, Sephardim (Jews of Spanish & North African descent) and Mizrahim (Jews of Middle Eastern descent) make up the majority of the Jewish population in Israel. Furthermore, Israel has become the home of many smaller Jewish ethnic groups, such as Ethiopian Jews, Yemenite Jews, and Kaifeng Jews. Since the Khazar myth doesn't address those Jews at all, any use of it to prove that "the Jews" aren't real Jews has significant holes.
Furthermore, Judaism has allowed for voluntary conversion through most of its history. Indeed, the great-grandmother of King David, Ruth, was a Moabite convert. Therefore, even if the Ashkenazi were descendants of Khazar converts, they would still be entirely, legitimately Jewish in the eyes of Jewish law.
Additionally there is the question of gene mixing which would inevitably occur when two populations lived close together. No matter how stringent social or religious constraints might be against either mixed marriages or extramarital sex it's still going to happen.
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So, "poetically" speaking, This
ReplyDeleteRufus IISat Feb 28, 09:48:00 PM EST
Okay, it's 2015
That's Two Thousand, and freakin' fifteen
and we have this major AMERICAN political party, of which, only 37% believe in Evolution.
That's 3. 7. %
Said Party controls the Senate, the House, the majority of State Governments, and could quite likely win the Presidency in 2016.
Scared yet?
is a "guffaw?"
Are you sure that that word "poetic" means what you think it means?
Or, maybe it's the meaning of the word, "guffaw."
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a loud and boisterous laugh.
synonyms: laugh heartily · laugh loudly · roar with laughter · roar · bellow ·
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laugh in a loud or boisterous way:
"both men guffawed at the remark"
synonyms: laugh heartily · laugh loudly · roar with laughter · roar · bellow
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DeleteWell, gee, I guess I couldn't tell if you were laughing heartily or just whining loudly.
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The House has become an embarrassing spectacle, and the promises of Republican leaders in both houses to govern without hop-scotching from crisis to crisis have been shredded. Speaker John A. Boehner’s control of the tea party faction in his GOP caucus is so slight he couldn’t even manage a three-week funding extension for DHS, let alone approving a budget through the end of the fiscal year in September.
ReplyDeleteNow, instead of tackling major legislation, Congress will be paralyzed for more days — and perhaps even longer — as House Republicans continue to insist on measures to reverse Mr. Obama’s immigration moves that have no chance of passage in the Senate, no chance of being signed by the president and no chance of becoming law.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/an-embarrassing-spectacle-in-the-house-over-dhs-funding/2015/02/28/412b8a12-bf6f-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html
If House Republicans so dislike Mr. Obama’s immigration policy, they have an option that is more responsible and more traditional than forcing a partial government shutdown. They can, as the Senate did in 2013, enact legislation to address the central problem of 11 million undocumented immigrants and an U.S. jobs market that continues to demand more low-skilled labor than can be found among native-born Americans and legal immigrants. It is their failure to do so that has sunk Congress to its current depths.
DeleteEvolution is a complex topic, Rufus, and there are alternative ways of looking at it about which I am certain you know nothing.
ReplyDeleteIf you were to affirm:
'I, Rufus, am DESCENDED from apes'
I would agree with you on that much.
If you want to read a good book by a Christian evolutionist and anthropologist pick up "The Phenomenon of Man" by Teilhard Chardin.
DeleteCome on, you can do it if really try....
His parents were missionaries to China. He was over there a lot.
The noosphere, my main man Rufus, the noosphere.....
This was even reflected in an episode of Miami Vice when the black dude Noogy talked about the noogysphere.....
Miami Vice was jam packed with mythological references and such like stuff.
Of course, all this stuff is old toenails, so to speak, to the Hindus, who had it written down millennia ago when your clan on both sides of the descent was still scratching the rib cage, and growling.
DeleteBut then the Hindus are a lower life form than Clan Rufus cause they eat cats, so the rumor is, even though most are vegetarians - they eat cats, it was said here, and not reptilian alligator tails as is proper and right for a highly evolved hick from Mississippi.
DeleteI gotta say Jack you have been coming across lately just like one of them David Duke white supremacists.
ReplyDeleteI guess it is just collateral damage from your hate of WiO...
Jack's an asshole.
DeleteNo hate, Ash, just aggravated that he libeled Rocco Wachman, a Jew with no connection to the Elephant Bar, or me.
DeleteJust some poor fella that "O"rdure decided to lie about.
As for the David Duke, who is he?
A poor relation of Marion Morrison?
You're marinated in hate. Steeped in acid.
Delete"There is something really wrong with you, rat."
Trish
g'nite
Cheers !
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DeleteYou want to know the truth bobal,...
- you are fuckin' demented. You are a fucked in the head dude. No kidding! Canada is NOT the place for you.
Dated and time stamped, not a delusion, not a lie.
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The Bar's two Generals, General ratasshole and General Rufus might wish to consider this article so as not to make further fools of themselves -
ReplyDeleteFebruary 28, 2015
Pentagon now says no attack to take Mosul this spring
By Rick Moran
After leaking plans to attack Islamic State and retake Iraq's second largest city of Mosul this April, the Pentagon is pulling back from the target date for the attack because the Iraqi army is far from being ready.
Tentative plans now call for a fall offensive on Mosul, but even that date may slip given the inadequacies of the Iraqi army.
Daily Beast:
The shift away from the Spring began in the last few days, in part because officials could not agree publicly about whether the Iraqi forces would be ready for the fight. Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart told the Senate Armed Services Committee Thursday that it would be “six to nine months, best estimate,” before Iraqi forces could be able to launch a major counteroffensive against ISIS.
“When we talk about the six to nine months additional training, it is to deal with an urban fight, which is very, very different, very complex, requires a great deal of skill, great deal of precision to be successful,” Stewart said.
The timeline is expected to come up publicly again Tuesday when Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Martin Dempsey testify before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
Dempsey isn’t expected to address the timeline for such an offensive directly. Rather, he’ll argue against the potential “rush to failure,” as one defense official explained.
In addition to the unreadiness of Iraqi forces to move on Mosul, there were other problems with the early timeline:
There were sectarian considerations, as well. The Iraqi divisions who would likely lead such a campaign are majority Shiite forces; Mosul is a Sunni-dominated town and such sectarian delineations are important to all involved. Many worried that Sunnis in both Iraq and the broader Arab world would not accept a Shiite-dominated military force leading the campaign.
Still others were angry that the U.S. military decided to telegraph the mission and the details of it. Republican Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham blasted the announcement in a letter to President Obama, calling the disclosure a risk to “the success of our mission, but could also cost the lives of U.S., Iraqi, and coalition forces.”
The Iraqi army had suffered humiliating defeats last year at the hands of Islamic State. What possessed Pentagon planners to believe they would be ready to mount a complex urban campaign by the spring of this year? Clearly, there is some wishful thinking going on in the administration who appear to be desperate to score a major victory against IS.
That fall date is likely to slip as well, as the disorganized Iraqi army is retrained and re-equipped. Will the shias really fight for a sunni town? At this point, it seems unlikely as shia militias are terrorizing sunnis across Iraq. Only a professional army adept at urban combat has a chance of levering Islamic State out of Mosul This suggests that American troops will have a much larger role in an operation to retake Mosul than the administration is willing to admit.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/02/pentagon_now_says_no_attack_to_take_mosul_this_spring.html
>>>Dempsey isn’t expected to address the timeline for such an offensive directly. Rather, he’ll argue against the potential “rush to failure,” as one defense official explained.<<<
DeleteWisdom.
An opinion that only a hater of the United States would promote.
DeleteOh, that's right, that is who posted it, the draft dodging bank fraudster.
Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, the man who advocates making US troops liable to prosecution in Sharia Courts..
G'nite, ratasshole.
DeleteYou need your rest now.
By the way, how is the super secret hush hush super duper important project you have going off the coasts of Panama coming along ?
Cheers !
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DeleteFuck, you're a dumbass, Bob.
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http://2164th.blogspot.com/2008/11/60-in-senate-and-broken-red-line.html
The height of US-backed regime change appeared to be the so-called “Arab Spring.” The Atlantic in an article titled, “The Arab Spring: ‘A Virus That Will Attack Moscow and Beijing’,” would state:
ReplyDelete[US Senator John McCain] said, “A year ago, Ben-Ali and Gaddafi were not in power. Assad won’t be in power this time next year. This Arab Spring is a virus that will attack Moscow and Beijing.” McCain then walked off the stage.
Comparing the Arab Spring to a virus is not new for the Senator — but to my knowledge, coupling Russia and China to the comment is.
Senator McCain’s framing reflects a triumphalism bouncing around at this conference. It sees the Arab Spring as a product of Western design — and potentially as a tool to take on other non-democratic governments.
At an earlier session, Senator Udall said that those who believed that the Arab Spring was an organic revolution from within these countries were wrong — and that the West and NATO in particular had been primary drivers of results in Libya — and that the West had helped animate and move affairs in Egypt. Udall provocatively added Syria to that list as well.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/11/the-arab-spring-a-virus-that-will-attack-moscow-and-beijing/248762/
So if Netanyahu is right, why is he so wrong?
ReplyDeleteFirst, because there is no such thing as a good agreement with Iran. As in almost every security-diplomatic issue, the choices are between bad, very bad and disastrous.
Netanyahu has not yet produced convincing arguments on why the alternative he proposes is less bad and how it would lead to a peaceful resolution. Imposing additional sanctions at this stage, as proposed by Netanyahu, would ruin the talks and trigger a rush toward an Iranian military nuclear capability — and possibly war.
Second, Netanyahu is mistaken in his tactics. Over the last six years he has maneuvered Israel into a corner in which it has few options. He decided against a military option, and today this isn’t a viable option. He failed to forge an intimate relationship with Obama, instead creating a continuous crisis with the White House leaving Israel no diplomatic clout.
His last weapon is the speech. Despite what he thinks, a speech is not equivalent to deeds. In this case it’s more of a demonstration.
It won’t stop the bad deal with Iran. Even if he’s right, his steps have minimized Israel’s ability to exert influence. His moves in Obama’s backyard have so severely politicized U.S.-Israeli relations that no one takes his points seriously anymore. Those points sound like spin for his election campaign.
The tragedy is that the speech hampered any bipartisan support against the deal. The House and Senate have friends of Israel who oppose the agreement and could have influenced Obama. But now they’ll keep silent.
Even though Netanyahu has made Iran his highest priority, he has failed to devise a strategy in which Israel’s interests are maximally protected in an agreement with Tehran.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.644720
When he took office in January of 2011, Minnesota governor Mark Dayton inherited a $6.2 billion budget deficit and a 7 percent unemployment rate from his predecessor, Tim Pawlenty, the soon-forgotten Republican candidate for the presidency who called himself Minnesota's first true fiscally-conservative governor in modern history.
ReplyDeletePawlenty prided himself on never raising state taxes -- the most he ever did to generate new revenue was increase the tax on cigarettes by 75 cents a pack. Between 2003 and late 2010, when Pawlenty was at the head of Minnesota's state government, he managed to add only 6,200 more jobs.
During his first four years in office, Gov. Dayton raised the state income tax from 7.85 to 9.85 percent on individuals earning over $150,000, and on couples earning over $250,000 when filing jointly -- a tax increase of $2.1 billion.
He's also agreed to raise Minnesota's minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2018, and passed a state law guaranteeing equal pay for women.
Republicans like state representative Mark Uglem warned against Gov. Dayton's tax increases, saying, "The job creators, the big corporations, the small corporations, they will leave. It's all dollars and sense to them." The conservative friend or family member you shared this article with would probably say the same if their governor tried something like this. But like Uglem, they would be proven wrong.
Between 2011 and 2015, Gov. Dayton added 172,000 new jobs to Minnesota's economy -- that's 165,800 more jobs in Dayton's first term than Pawlenty added in both of his terms combined.
Even though Minnesota's top income tax rate is the 4th-highest in the country, it has the 5th-lowest unemployment rate in the country at 3.6 percent. According to 2012-2013 U.S. census figures, Minnesotans had a median income that was $10,000 larger than the U.S. average, and their median income is still $8,000 more than the U.S. average today.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-gibson/mark-dayton-minnesota-economy_b_6737786.html
DeleteEven though Minnesota's top income tax rate is the 4th-highest in the country, it has the 5th-lowest unemployment rate in the country at 3.6 percent
- Dayton is a billionaire heir to the Target fortune.
DeleteIt wasn't just a majority in the legislature that forced him to do it -- Dayton had to work with a Republican-controlled legislature for his first two years in office. And unlike his Republican neighbor to the east, Gov. Dayton didn't assert his will over an unwilling populace by creating obstacles between the people and the vote -- Dayton actually created an online voter registration system, making it easier than ever for people to register to vote.
The reason Gov. Dayton was able to radically transform Minnesota's economy into one of the best in the nation is simple arithmetic.Raising taxes on those who can afford to pay more will turn a deficit into a surplus.
Raising the minimum wage will increase the median income. And in a state where education is a budget priority and economic growth is one of the highest in the nation, it only makes sense that more businesses would stay.
It's official -- trickle-down economics is bunk. Minnesota has proven it once and for all.
If you believe otherwise, you are wrong.
David Ernest Duke (born July 1, 1950) is an American White nationalist, White Separatist, Neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier, conspiracy theorist, far-right politician, former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and a political writer.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke
DeleteSo, please reference any Neo-nazi, White Separatist or Holocaust denial posts.
ReplyDeleteTime and date, please.
Any post that would seem to promote the Ku Klux Klan
Time and date, please.
As to conspiracy theories ...
The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.
- Benjamin Disraeli
The reality, Ash, is that anyone that uses the term
Delete""Anti-Semite" in reference to Jewry is a proto-Nazi, which is as dispicable as neo-Nazis
The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns under way in central Europe at that time.
Although the term now has wide currency, it is a misnomer, since it implies a discrimination against all Semites.
Arabs and other peoples are also Semites, and yet they are not the targets of anti-Semitism as it is usually understood.
The term is especially inappropriate as a label for the anti-Jewish prejudices, statements, or actions of Arabs or other Semites.
So, the members of the Elephant Bar that endlessly repeat the term, they are the neo-Nazi.
To claim that the Ashkenazi are not Semites, as do many Israeli, that could never be construed as antisemitic, nor either proto-Nazo or neo-Nazi in word or deed.
Words have meaning, those that purposefully twist those meanings, merely propagandists working at agitprop.
Which is and has been a Zionist hallmark.
The idea that European has no root in Arabia is not limited to the researcher at John Hopkins, no indeed.
DeleteOn average, all Ashkenazi Jews are genetically as closely related to each other as fourth or fifth cousins, said Dr. Harry Ostrer, a pathology, pediatrics and genetics professor at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York and the author of
"Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People" (Oxford University Press, 2012).
Maternal DNA
Richards and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which is contained in the cytoplasm of the egg and passed down only from the mother, from more than 3,500 people throughout the Near East, the Caucusus and Europe, including Ashkenazi Jews.
The team found that four founders were responsible for 40 percent of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, and that all of these founders originated in Europe.
The majority of the remaining people could be traced to other European lineages.
All told, more than 80 percent of the maternal lineages of Ashkenazi Jews could be traced to Europe, with only a few lineages originating in the Near East.
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/most-ashkenazi-jews-are-genetically-europeans-surprising-study-finds-8C11358210
The idea that European Ashkenazi Jewry has no root in Arabia is not limited to the researcher at John Hopkins, no indeed
DeleteThe idea that Jack Hawkins has no root in the USA or AZ is not limited either.
DeleteGet out...
ReplyDelete“They're called 'facts', and my role is to amplify those, not cheerlead.
And I don't care at all what you think of my motives.”
― Glenn Greenwald
As for the Khazar 'myth" it is of Jewish origin.
ReplyDeleteIn 1867, the great Jewish scholar Abraham Harkavy, in The Jews and Languages of the Slavs", spoke of the Jewish Yiddish language coming from the Khazars.
It was, however, a prominent Jew named Arthur Koestler, himself a Zionist Jew, who in 1976 published the book which caused such a sensation. "The Thirteenth Tribe" was a literary bombshell. Koestler’s accurate work was meant to be a refutation of Hitler and the Nazis, but it had incredible unintended consequences. He wrote:
“The large majority of surviving Jews in the world is of Eastern European—thus perhaps mainly of Khazar—origin.
If so, this would mean that their (the Jews) ancestors came not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race, and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Ulgur, and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob…
The story of the Khazar Empire, as it slowly emerges from the past, begins to look like the most cruel hoax which history has ever perpetrated.”
Koestler, who thought he was doing his fellow Jews a service, was unmercifully attacked by other Zionists who felt he had let the cat out of the bag. If they come from the Khazars and are not of Israelite origin, the Jews had no ancestral claim to the land of Israel.
They were not the seed of Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of Khazaria.
As Shlomo Sand, history professor at the University of Tel Aviv, explains it in his outstanding, 2007 book, "Invention of the Jewish People",
“Without the Old Testament in its hand and the exile of the Jewish people in its memory, Israel would have no justification for annexing Arab Jerusalem and establishing settlements in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, the Golan Heights, and even the Sinai Peninsula.”
If they were Khazars, the title, the “Eternal People” did not apply to them. They would be, in fact, another usurping ethnic conglomerate, falsely claiming to be “Jews” and willing to kill to illegally possess the rightful ancestral lands of the Palestinians
https://hshidayat.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/zionist-jews-are-not-descendants-of-abraham-palestinians-are/
It's easy to be a "creationist." All you have to do is deny DNA Science, Carbon Dating Science, and Geological Science (among several other Sciences.)
ReplyDeleteOnce you've done that you can grab you Holy Book, mount your pulpit, and start preaching - and/or become a Republican, and get yourself elected to the Congress of the United States of America. Hell, if you're rich, crooked, good-looking, and cool enough you might even get elected President, and put in charge of enough Nuclear Weapons to destroy life on earth many times over.
Hell, nobody liked "Science Class," anyway, right?
Trickle Down Economics
DeleteIt's gotta be in the Bible, somewheres, surely.
Probably in the Old Testament.
DeleteThat's where all the "good" stuff is.
There are "people of the book" (Christians, Jews, Muslim, and such,) that claim to believe in Evolution.
DeleteDo you believe them?
Is it possible to believe in the writing in the Old Testament, and, concurrently, DNA, Carbon Dating, and Geology?
Honestly?
And, the answer, of course, is:
DeleteWhat? Are you fucking crazy?
For those that do believe their Bible and not genetic science -
DeleteRevelation 3:9
King James Bible
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
So any which way you want to go, Legionnaire Q
Science or Myth ...
The song remains the same.
Jack HawkinsSun Mar 01, 07:58:00 AM EST
ReplyDeleteAs for the Khazar
Regardless of your demented fantasies...
Israel exists.
It is a member of the UN as a Nation.
Regardless of your feelings, the world recognizes that Israel is the Nation State for the Jewish people.
Some hate Israel and seek it's destruction, not because they are "fake Jews" but BECAUSE they are Jews.
America IS.
There is no connection, bar a few defeated and conquered Indians, with the vast overwhelming folks of America and to the natives of this land.... Including you Jack, living in Cave Creek AZ.
What RIGHT do you have to occupy the Americas?
Why should you not be deported to your ancestral homelands?
Why one standard for Israel and NO standards for yourself?
Israel is the Nation State of all Jewish people and more.
You don't like it. GOOD
I hope it brings you nothing but pain, but it aint going anywhere.
Israel is reborn and now Jews will fight to keep her alive and trust me, you are nothing. Just a crazy obsessed Jew hating piece of shit, whose life sucks.
Sorry Jack, Israel is on the right side of history.
Maybe you should take a trip and visit.
You might learn something. Make a friend. Change your black heart into something human.
Tell it to Rocco Wachman.
Delete{;-)
Get any phone calls yet?
DeleteI'm still waiting for your letter to come in the mail, "O"rdure.
DeleteIf you sent 65 pieces, to ranches and such in Cave Creek, I should get one.
Has not come yet.
{;-)
It appears that you have failed to perform
DeleteRufus, you dumb shit, you haven't paid attention to a thing I've said all these years.
ReplyDeleteThere are TWO narratives in the Bible, the popular one for nitwits and dumbfucks like you, and the other, artfully concealed in the ages of the Patriarchs, which takes off on the number 432......and references to the old time scheme of the watchers of the stars......world without end.......
You are impossible. It is not possible to educate you.
One narrative speaks of freedom, and wrestling with G-d, rather than submitting like the moslems, the other speaks of absolute determinism.
"By what transcendent genius", Joseph Campbell wrote, "these two contradictory outlooks were artfully combined I am at a loss to say".
You are unteachable, Rufus.
A true Mississippi Hick. One of the real ones.
Wife and I are going to the local Cowboy Church today, which meets once a month, just for the fun of it.
Got to get my boots and cowboy hat that my son bought me and dude up.
Then I go aworking.
Thankfully I won't be reading the gibberish that constitutes the vast majority of the shit written here for this particular day.
WiO, Quirk, Sam, Doug and occasional others being the lonely exceptions these days.
Saddling up, and
outta here
Cheers !
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"Poor Rufus he's never been right about anything, but he's such a dear".
Trish
"There's something really wrong with you, rat".
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Oh, I see, you've gotta have the secret Decoder Ring . . . . .
DeleteI rest my case.
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ReplyDeleteSee above:
DeleteJack Hawkins Sun Mar 01, 11:21:00 AM EST
Haaretz
ReplyDelete180 former IDF leading officers urge Netanyahu to drop Congress speech
WOW, not bad out of a country of 8 MILLION people.
Deletehttp://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4631634,00.html
Delete'Netanyahu has caused Israel the most strategic damage on Iran'
In exclusive interview, ex-Mossad chief Meir Dagan says he agrees with prime minister on threat posed by nuclear Iran, but warns Netanyahu 'is single-handedly motivating the Americans into rushing to reach an agreement.' .
Dagan is convinced that the current status quo poses a danger to Israel. We have to reach an agreement with the Palestinians, he said.
Delete"Netanyahu's actions are leading us towards a bi-national state, and I don't want a bi-national state. I don't want Abbas as the prime minister of my country. Continuing to establish facts on the ground in the territories will inevitably lead us to an apartheid state."
It already has led ISrael to being an apartheid state.
But it soon will be a bi-national state, or no state at all.
{;-)
Israel is a great nation that has freedom for all it's citizens.
DeleteThanks for being concerned. But Israel is not an apartheid state, not even close.
Now Gaza? That's an apartheid state. Saudi Arabia? Iraq? All excellent examples of apartheid.
But keep on obsessing about a place you have never actually been..
ISrael an Apartheid Nation that ...
DeletePrefers al Qeada
So Michael Oren, the ISraeli Ambassador to the United States, told the JPost.
Actually Jack, great example of your distortions.
DeleteBut Israel does keep America safer from Jihadists every day..
Sleep good knowing Israel is protecting America, even you.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Two months into full Republican control of Congress, GOP leaders are struggling to demonstrate they really are in charge.
ReplyDeleteAs stated back in November, the mid-term election ...
Inconsequential
as is you.
DeleteInconsequential
yeah, rat; you is inconsequential. :)
DeleteNever claimed otherwise.
Delete{;-)
Cause I are what I is.
DeleteBut I don't prefer al-Qeada
Like ISrael does.
http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328
Iran and syria have murdered more and are on the rise to murder more than isis.
Deleteyour childish word games are just that.
childish.
But rest assured you do sleep better because Israel is protecting America and it's citizens more than you'd ever know.
More bullshit from the "O"rdure.
DeleteISrael is not protecting the US, never has, never will.
The US, however, is essential to the survival of the apartheid state.
Israel has received $121 billion in aid from the U.S. since the end of World War II, making it the largest recipient of assistance in the world, according to an April 2014 Congressional report.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/analysis-will-netanyahu-speech-congress-fracture-u-s-israel-ties-n313936
ISraels very existence is dependent upon the United States.
The Zionist are not very grateful, like most looters, and meth heads, they feel entitled.
But they are not.
Sorry jack you feel that way. I guess you just are not in on the inside intel that explains how Israel helps on the war against terror.
DeleteIsrael hits way above it's pay grade in HELPING the USA.
Israel is not call the the middle east's non-floating US Carrier for nothing...
The aid that Israel gets is much appreciated of course, providing millions and millions of JOBS for Americans! After all most all of that aid is SPENT in the USA on all sorts of things from trailers to hammers and rockets and aircraft...
Are you projecting when you now call Zionists and Israelis "looters" and meth heads?
LOL
Jack, Jack, Jack, Israel aint a looter, in fact they EARN their place in one of the most productive nations on earth!
Their VERY existence is based on the Israelis FIGHTING their own battles and never asking for any American to FIGHT for them. Cant say that about any other nation...
But you raise an interesting point, you CLAIM Israel is an apartheid state created and funded by the USA, or by you....
SO you, are saying that America funds and supports Israel and it's an apartheid nation? So does that make America a apartheid supporting nation?
And if as you say "ISraels very existence is dependent upon the United States." then America support's Al queda too...
Wow, Jack your opinions get trickier and trickier...
To recap..
you say: ISraels very existence is dependent upon the United States.
So The United States is responsible for Israel's behavior...
Or since we have a citizen based nation, and you CLAIM to be a citizen, Jack Hawkins supports an apartheid Israel..
:)
BAGHDAD — Iraq's prime minister called on Sunni tribal fighters to abandon the Islamic State group Sunday, ahead of a promised offensive to retake Saddam Hussein's hometown from the extremists.
ReplyDeleteHaider al-Abadi offered no timeline for an attack on Tikrit, the hometown of the late Iraqi dictator some 130 kilometers (80 miles) north of Baghdad that fell into the hands of the Islamic State group last summer. However, Shiite militias and Iraqi security forces have stationed themselves around Tikrit as state-run media has warned that the city "will soon return to its people."
But sending Shiite militias into the Sunni city of Tikrit, the capital of Iraq's Salahuddin province, could reprise the bloody, street-by-street insurgent battles that followed the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. On Saturday, two suicide car bombers killed 16 nearby Shiite militiamen and wounded 31.
Al-Abadi offered what he called "the last chance" for Sunni tribal fighters, promising them a pardon during a news conference in Samarra, 95 kilometers (60 miles) north of Baghdad. His office said he arrived in Samarra to "supervise the operation to liberate Tikrit from the terrorist gangs."
"I call upon those who have been misled or committed a mistake to lay down arms and join their people and security forces in order to liberate their cities," al-Abadi said.
Al-Abadi said the operation will see troops come from several directions, but he declined to give an exact time for the operation's start. However, his presence in Samarra suggests it could come soon.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/01/world/middleeast/ap-ml-iraq.html?_r=0
Tikrit is going to be interesting.
DeleteIf the Iraqi can crack Tikrit, the Daesh in Mosul will drop their cocks and grab their socks, then put on their running shoes.
DeleteThe two campaigns should be pretty similar.
DeleteMosul is much larger, of course, but many of the challenges are the same.
DeleteEarly on the Iraqi tried to crack Tikrit, and couldn't do it.
DeleteSo if they can ger 'er done, now.
That will be a great morale booster and a sign that ...
Times, they are a changin'
DeleteThe Beginning Is The End
Jack, even though America supports Israel, as you call it, an apartheid nation, "ISraels very existence is dependent upon the United States." I guess you are quite convoluted......
ReplyDeleteWhich is it Jack?
Ah, don't answer....
but sleep well that the IDF and Mossad are hard at work, keeping America safe...
The United States is a convoluted place, no doubt about that.
DeleteThe United States supported the apartheid state of South Africa, until it didn't.
Times, they are a changin'.
Guess you missed the memo.
In the 1960s South Africa had economic growth second only to that of Japan. Trade with Western countries grew, and investors from the United States, France and Britain rushed in to get a piece of the action. Resistance among blacks had been crushed. Since 1964, Mandela, leader of the African Nation Congress, had been in prison on Robben Island just off the coast from Capetown, and it appeared that South Africa's security forces could handle any resistance to apartheid. But in the seventies this rosy picture for South Africa's whites began to fade.
ReplyDelete...
The anti-apartheid movements in the United States and Europe were gaining support for boycotts against South Africa, for the withdrawal of US firms from South Africa and for the release of Mandela. South Africa was becoming an outlaw in the world community of nations. Investing in South Africa by Americans and others was coming to an end.
http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch34-sa2.htm
In the early 1980s the furthering unrest in the country began to worry many of the foreign investor’s in South Africa. While many of these private business were feeling the pressure in their home country to disinvest, the political instability of the country was the primary concern for many of the foreign companies. It was only after this withdrawal of funds and business from the country in the mid-1980s did South Africa begin to feel the squeeze put on by their foreign debts. In 1985, the European Community put a limited scope of trade sanctions on South Africa, yet still the most expansive to date. This was followed by more significant sanctions in 1986 from the EC, coupled with the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act passed by the US Congress over a presidential veto in the same year.
While South Africa did its best to circumvent governmental sanctions, the loss of private capital was inescapable
http://theafricanfile.com/politicshistory/impact-of-economic-and-political-sanctions-on-apartheid/
The approximately $900 million in lost market capitalization is just an indicator of the economic vulnerability of ISrael.
DeleteUnlike South Africa, there are no gold mines, no diamond mines, no natural resources of any great worth.
ISrael is much more vulnerable to divestiture, sanctions and boycotts than South Africa was.
The Mossad, they won't be able to help ...
They'll still be fighting the "Last War".
{;-)
The approximately $900 million in lost market capitalization, by SodaStream, is just an indicator of the economic vulnerability of ISrael.
DeleteYet wherever the left holds sway, Israel is seen through jaundiced eyes. There has been an unprecedented moral inversion, illustrating the power of a noxious idea to seep from the ideological fringe to the mainstream.
DeleteThe United States is not yet down to one pro-Israel party. But the seepage among Democrats continues. At the 2012 Democratic convention, a fight erupted over the deletion from the party’s platform of standard language acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. It took an order from the White House to restore the pro-Israel clause, and even then it had to be gaveled through over the vocal opposition of half the convention delegates.
Not long ago, such a hostile gesture would have been unthinkable.
Now, with each new poll confirming Democratic chilliness toward the Jewish state Democrats once loved, can it be anything but a precursor of worse to come?
- Jeff Jacoby
He got the memo, but more importantly ...
He read and understands it.
{;-)
Or since we have a citizen based nation, and you CLAIM to be a citizen, Jack Hawkins supports an apartheid Israel..
ReplyDeleteYep, which is why the opposition to the apartheid state of ISrael is ongoing and consistent.
The government is operating in a manner of which I do not approve, so ...
Education and political action are ongoing, in an effort to effect change in the policy of the country.
As Mr Jacoby write, the results are encouraging. Slow, but the movement is encouraging, none the less.
I wonder if the U.S. is sitting out the Tikrit action?
ReplyDeleteSo far, we've announced No air strikes in that area.
Maybe the coalition doesn't like the makeup of the Iraqi Force, this go around.
Could be that, or the Iraqi have not asked.
DeleteThey may want to use their own SU-25s, to prove a point.
BAGHDAD (Sputnik) — Timely delivery of Russian Sukhoi Su-25 jets to Iraq has helped Baghdad battle extremists, including the Islamic State militant group, the Iraqi Defense Ministry said Thursday.
“The addition of Su-25 jets to the military arsenal contributed to changing the military balance in favor of the Iraqi army, and contributed to liberation of many strategically important areas where they were used to conduct airstrikes,” the ministry said in a statement.
The document says that the jets were delivered with all necessary equipment, and Russian experts trained Iraqi army pilots to operate the planes.
“The delivery of these jets [Su-25] was conducted in the framework of international support of Iraq in its fight against terrorism. Fast and timely delivery of aircraft by Russian military aviation experts was due to connections between Russian and Iraqi government,” the continued.
Iraqi media agency Basnews, citing sources in the country’s army, said on Sunday that at the moment the Iraqi army has a total of 15 fighter jets, all of which are Su-25s.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150206/1017849453.html#ixzz3TBHBFX75
Given that the US refused to deliver those F16s ...
DeleteThe Prime Minister was unhappy with the Pentagon speaking of timetables with regards to Mosul.
If the Iraqi could take Tikrit, using their own CAS, that would be huge as a morale builder.
Eh, maybe.
DeleteWe weren't involved in the first attempt, either.
The Iraqi have also received Mi-24 attack helicopters from the Russians
DeleteIraq receives second batch of Mi-28s
http://www.janes.com/article/48500/iraq-receives-second-batch-of-mi-28s
ReplyDeleteA cowboy, who just moved to Wyoming from Texas , walks into a bar and orders three mugs of Bud.
He sits in the back of the room, drinking a sip out of each one in turn.
When he finishes them, he comes back to the bar and orders three more.
The bartender approaches and tells the cowboy, "You know, a mug goes flat after I draw it. It would taste better if you bought one at a time.."
The cowboy replies, "Well, you see, I have two brothers. One is an Airborne Ranger, the other is a Navy Seal, both serving over seas some where.
When we all left our home in Texas , we promised that we'd drink this way to remember the days when we drank together.
So I'm drinking one beer for each of my brothers and one for myself."
The bartender admits that this is a nice custom, and leaves it there.
The cowboy becomes a regular in the bar, and always drinks the same way.
He orders three mugs and drinks them in turn.
One day, he comes in and only orders two mugs.
All the regulars take notice and fall silent.
When he comes back to the bar for the second round, the bartender says, "I don't want to intrude on your grief, but I wanted to offer my condolences on your loss."
The cowboy looks quite puzzled for a moment, then a light dawns in his eyes and he laughs.
"Oh, no, everybody's just fine," he explains, "It's just that my wife and I joined the Baptist Church and I had to quit drinking."
"Hasn't affected my brothers though...."
No decoder ring necessary Rufus.
ReplyDeleteYou just got to have a brain.
And be moderately well read.
You lack both requirements, you ignorant southern hillbilly.
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Went to a GREAT sausage feed today in Coeur d'Alene !! and looked at some real estate.
I'm ready for Spring........
Cheers !
Iraqi forces launched a long-awaited offensive on Sunday to recapture the major city of Tikrit from militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), Al Arabiya’s correspondent in Iraq said.
ReplyDeleteIraqi Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi announced the zero hour of an operation to liberate ISIS-held territories in the province of Saladin, with its capital Tikrit, according to Al Arabiya News Channel.
The offensive will be supported by air strikes from the U.S.-led coalition against ISIS, the Iraqi army said earlier.
Residents of Tikrit were reportedly told to evacuate the area ahead of the military operation.
Iraqi officials and militia commanders regard the recapture of Tikrit as an essential step toward the liberation of Mosul.
The specifics of the battle’s plan were not revealed. But military experts believe that joint Iraq forces will attack from multiple fronts.
The first location will be from the Aoja area, south of Tikrit, with the support of Iraqi Special Forces. The second front will be from an area close to Tikrit University in which the Iraqi army and police will attack from. The third attack will carried from the southwest of Tikrit.
Security sources told Al Arabiya News Channel that Iraqi forces are now in control of the northern areas of the Albu Obaid village and west of Tikrit.
The operation to retake Tikrit, the home town of Iraq’s former President Saddam Hussein, marks . . . . .
I got a funny feeling about this
What? You getting the ole Chris Matthews trembling leg syndrome??
ReplyDeleteAsh, I notice you did not find any posts that promoted the KKK, White Separatism or Neo-Nazi philosophies.
DeleteWas it a "Bridge to Far"?
Like not there, anywhere.
The only thing one might complain about concerning this article is:
ReplyDelete"This can’t fill the captives of Mosul with a lot of confidence, either"
Mosul had about 2 million, about 1 million left. So one wonders just how many 'captives' there are in Mosul among those who decided to stay. Info on this is hard to come by.......I have contacted Q who is in the Kurdish, or what used to be the Kurdish, section of Mosul, and have asked. So far, no reply, except a mysterious 'all is well at the bar/bordello, bob'.
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Unmark your calendars: Mosul liberation postponed indefinitely
posted at 10:01 am on February 28, 2015 by Ed Morrissey
Old and busted: Open-source war planning. New hotness: Strategic incoherence! A week ago, the Pentagon briefed reporters on the plan to retake Mosul from ISIS in April using mainly Iraqi Army troops, down to the timing of the attack and a rough estimate of the numbers and types of troops needed to accomplish the job. Just seven days later, the Department of Defense pushed off the date until autumn … if then. A DoD source told The Daily Beast’s Nancy Youssef that, er, they’ve belatedly discovered that Iraqi troops aren’t ready now, and probably won’t be ready for months:
The U.S. military’s goal to retake Iraq’s second largest city from the self-proclaimed Islamic State has been pushed back several months at least, defense officials told The Daily Beast. That’s a major shift for the Pentagon, which recently announced that the first major ground offensive in the war against ISIS could come in the next few weeks.
Defense officials once hoped that Iraqi troops could move into Mosul by the Spring and reclaim the city from ISIS. Now, those officials say, Fall is more realistic. And even that date was tenuous.
“It is an Iraqi decision but we don’t want to do anything until they are ready and can win decisively,” a military official explained to the Daily Beast. “They cannot now.”
So … did the Iraqis change their mind, or did the US fail to ask them in the first place? One would think that the Pentagon would have coordinated with their Iraqi counterparts before making the singularly strange decision to announce a major offensive would take place a few weeks ahead of time, along with the number of forces to be deployed. For that matter, the US military should have known the capabilities of the Iraqi army, too. If the Iraqis couldn’t win decisively now, shouldn’t the Pentagon have known that? Did anyone think to consider that before last week’s public bravado?
DeleteThis can’t fill the captives of Mosul with a lot of confidence, either:
It’s another sign that the U.S.-led campaign against ISIS isn’t going nearly as smoothly as the American government had hoped. At the Pentagon Friday, Defense Department spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby shied away from any kind of timeline, saying: “I can’t put a date certain…nor say April is out.”
Rather, he suggested that the Iraqi forces were not imminently ready for such an offensive.
“I don’t think we are there yet,” Kirby said. “There are gaps and seams that need to be closed.”
This brings up two serious questions about leadership of this war. First, who made the decision to not just leak but brief the media in detail on a planned major offensive against ISIS? It goes against everything known about operational security and the necessity of maintaining elements of surprise. It’s no secret that the Iraqis want Mosul back, of course, but announcing that they’ll throw 25,000 troops against it two months from now gave ISIS plenty of time to move their own assets to meet the threat. It also eliminated the ability to use feints to throw them off the true objective, a basic military strategy that keeps an enemy from focusing all their defenses on one place at one specific point in time.
In fact, that question raises another: cui bono? Who and what benefits from going public with that plan? It’s not the military, which loses all those advantages and therefore will suffer heavier losses than necessary. It’s certainly not the people of Mosul, who will see even more oppression and genocide in preparation to hold the city. Why do this at all? The only benefit accrues to the politicians who are struggling mightily, as Youssef points out, to claim that the war effort is going “smoothly.” At the time this got “leaked,” a CBS poll showed that Americans had shifting significantly on the war, with a 57% majority now wanting American ground troops to go into Iraq and Syria to destroy ISIS. This leak pushed back against the swelling realization that our current strategy is failing by claiming the Iraqi army was ready to stand up and do the job — a ridiculous claim, given that the same army had just been routed from defensive positions in Mosul and all across western and northern Iraq just a few months earlier.
The phantom Mosul offensive is a failure of leadership. If someone at the Pentagon doesn’t get cashiered over it, then we can safely assume that the failure lies above their pay grade.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/02/28/unmark-your-calendars-mosul-liberation-postponed-indefinitely/
Q added, by the way, that the bar/bordello where he is staying is run by some Turkish national who sells hash on the side and goes by the name 'Elvis'.
(Bobbo - This joint is call the Two Tusk Dung and is run by some Turk national that sells killer hashish and answers to 'Elvis'. Whole town is a zoo, a five ring circus. Have grown beard to blend in, and shout Allahu Akbar once in while. Carrying the old .38 Police Special. The women all have fear in their eyes but the men seem proud and strut about and American food aid packages are re-labelled and handed out with "Brought to you by Islamic State" and no one is hungry. Have made plans for quick exit if things get hot, which I do not expect any time soon. Vodka hard to get, but hash substitutes. Trying to make friends with a Russian guest here. More later.....Q)
Delete(P.S. - Bobbo, you asked about the conditions here. Life seems good if you are a psychopath and have a pecker. If not keep a low profile. Q.)
DeleteOh, for Christ's fucking sake, you can't attack a city "on the sly."
ReplyDeleteNewsflash: you send 25,000 soldiers to surround a city, and you can pretty well bet your bippy somebody's going to see'em.
You best not believe everything you read.
Right - O. Additionally ISIS undoubtedly has some ears and eyes in the Iraqi military.
DeletePeople are complaining about announcing the date and the forces to be used, though, as being unprofessional.
Having eyes and ears in the Iraqi military ISIS will probably know too if it's a ruse.
Many of our military top folk are now saying it's not going to happen anytime soon, if at all.
Who knows ?
Iraq ISIS free by July 4th, 2015 ?
Not a chance.
Yep, you're probably right.
DeleteBut, it doesn't matter.
Your boys are Dead Men Walking. Whether they bite the dust this month, or next, it's no nevermind. Bite the dust they will.
And, you'll be on the losing side, Again.
FUBAR
DeleteExclusive: ISIS Gaining Ground in Syria, Despite U.S. Strikes
American jets are pounding Syria. But ISIS is taking key terrain—and putting more and more people under its black banners.
ISIS continues to gain substantial ground in Syria, despite nearly 800 airstrikes in the American-led campaign to break its grip there.
At least one-third of the country’s territory is now under ISIS influence, with recent gains in rural areas that can serve as a conduit to major cities that the so-called Islamic State hopes to eventually claim as part of its caliphate. Meanwhile, the Islamic extremist group does not appear to have suffered any major ground losses since the strikes began. The result is a net ground gain for ISIS, according to information compiled by two groups with on-the-ground sources.
In Syria, ISIS “has not any lost any key terrain,” Jennifer Cafarella, a fellow at the Washington, D.C.-based Institute for the Study of War who studies the Syrian conflict, explained to The Daily Beast.
Even U.S. military officials privately conceded to The Daily Beast that ISIS has gained ground in some areas, even as the Pentagon claims its seized territory elsewhere, largely around the northern city of Kobani. That’s been the focus of the U.S.-led campaign, and ISIS has not been able to take the town, despite its best efforts.
Other than that, they are short on specifics.
150113-mak-syria-map-jan-embedClick to Enlarge (Coalition For a Democratic Syria)
“Yes, they have gained some ground. But we have stopped their momentum,” one Pentagon official told The Daily Beast.
A map developed by the Coalition for a Democratic Syria (CDS), a Syrian-American opposition umbrella group, shows that ISIS has nearly doubled the amount of territory it controls since airstrikes began last year.
“Assessing the map, ISIS has almost doubled its territorial control in Syria. But more importantly, the number of people who now live under ISIS control has also increased substantially,” CDS political adviser Mouaz Moustafa said..........
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/14/exclusive-isis-gaining-ground-in-syria-despite-u-s-strikes.html
Air strikes, alone, will never prevail.
DeleteGot to have local forces to support.
In Syria, that would be Mr Assad and his Army and allies in the YPG and the Christian communities.
If the Coalition will not support them, they will not defeat Daesh, in Syria.
Never been a real issue.
"Your boys are Dead Men Walking."
ReplyDeleteThey aren't 'my boys', you arse.
I said if I could flip a switch and kill them all I'd very gladly do so.
"Your boy" O'bozo is the cause of all this sadness and murder and death and torture.
>>>Yep, you're probably right.<<<
Alrighty now, having admitted you were a little over optimistic, I'll get off your case.
One down, just ratasshole left to go.......
You cheer for them almost every day, tell us why they will win the fight, before the fight even begins.
DeleteThey are more your team than those Idaho Vandals, and stand about as much chance of winning the game.
None.
Everything you say is a lie, JackOff.
DeleteI've never cheered for them. I said just above, if I could kill them all with a flip of the switch, I'd flip the switch.
Nor do I think they will necessarily win the fight. I've simply said that it isn't going to be over by Memorial Day 2015, or even Labor Day 2015, and that you are an idiot, and no 'military expert', and an oaf.
They will lose if we put sufficient troops back in there. Probably not if we don't.
That's all I've said.
The 'rat doctrine', which isn't a 'doctrine', and wasn't created by you ratasshole, ain't gonna do it.
By the way, Deuce has said we must do something about ISIS.
I'd like to know what he thinks it is best we do.
I think we ought to support the Kurds.
They at least seem to like us.
And support Israel, of course.
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"There's something really wrong with you, rat"
Trish
With their gains at Tikrit University in the north, contingents from the ISF and Shi’i paramilitaries have advanced south at Al-Dour; this town’s capture will be imperative to cutting-off ISIS militants from Baghdad to the south.
ReplyDeleteOver the next few days, the ISF will attempt to capture Al-‘Alam near Tikrit University, while their contingents in the south push their way to Albu-Ajeel in order to complete the encirclement.
The Iranian Revolutionary Guard’s commander of the Al-Quds Brigade, Qassim Suleimani, made an important visit to the Tikrit front on Sunday, as he took on the role as . . . . . .
Al Masdar News
The Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) has arguably suffered their largest setback in Syria, as the predominately Kurdish “People’s Protection Units” (YPG) captured the strategic town of Tal Hamees in eastern Al-Hasakah after the former controlled this area for almost two years.
ReplyDeleteThe YPG successfully infiltrated into Tal Hamees after taking control of several villages south of the town; this area was heavily fortified by ISIS and was considered untouchable four months ago.
In addition to their capture of Tal Hamees, the YPG also took control of the imperative town of Tal Brak. Tal Brak was another ISIS stronghold that was relatively untouchable months ago.
ISIS Setback in Al Hasakah
But, but ... Rufus, the Daesh are credited with controlling large swathes of empty desert, and the are credited with controlling ever more of it.
DeleteNo water, no people, no resources, but damn, they've got 'sovereignty over that trackless tract..
Syrian Army Captures Another Town on the Southern Front
Deletehttp://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-captures-another-town-southern-front/
The Syrian Arab Army’s 9th Armored Division has relentlessly attacked the militants from the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda “Jabhat Al-Nusra” in southern Syria, capturing their seventh town in 48 hours after progressing from Tal Qareen in the north.
According to a military source in the Dara’a Governorate, the 9th Division took control of Rajm Al-Sayid near the besieged town of Kafr Nissaj to the south; this opens up another front to the latter, as Jabhat Al-Nusra faces an assault from 3 points.
In conjunction with their success at Rajm Al-Sayid, the 9th Division was also able to cutoff the Jabhat Al-Nusra supply route to Tal Al-Mal, leading to their eventual attack later in the day.
Southeast of Kafr Nissaj, the SAA’s 7th Armored Division resumed their fierce offensive in the town of Kafr Shamis, as they continued their advance to the besieged Tal Al-‘Antar to the north.
and ...
Battle Map of Dara’a: Syrian Army and Hezbollah Sweeping Through the Northern Countryside
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/battle-map-daraa-syrian-army-hezbollah-sweeping-northern-countryside
The Syrian Arab Army’s 7th Mechanized and 9th Armored Divisions – in cooperation with Hezbollah and the National Defense Forces (NDF) – have made huge strides in northern Dara’a, securing 6 towns in the span of 24 hours, as the militants from the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda “Jabhat Al-Nusra” (Al-Nusra Front) struggled to hold the territory they captured in Fall of 2014.
The SAA’s 9th Armored Division and Hezbollah captured the towns of Tal Qareen, Al-Habariyah, Al-Sultaniyah, Tal Fatima, Himreet, and Sibsiba in northern Dara’a after fierce clashes with Jabhat Al-Nusra and the Free Syrian Army’s 1st Brigade.
Jack HawkinsSat Feb 28, 06:09:00 PM EST
ReplyDeleteYou cannot post a fact, to save your life, "O"rdure.
You libel Rocco Wachman.
Actually Jack YOU libel Rocco Wachman.
You call him a fake Jew.
Did you tell his widow what you thought of him and the other American Jews from Europe?
Frauds you say...
Libel, libel, libel...
Lies, again.
DeleteI never called any Jew fake.
I have said that the Ashkenazi have no claim to Arabia, that they are not geneticly linked to the people of the Exodus.
That their ancestors were converts to Judaism, from the Kingdom of Khazar. that they came to Judaism through proselytization.
But never have I used the word fake.
That is your description, your libel of all Ashkenazi. Not mine.
DeleteBetter get your Yiddish to English dictionary and open it, read it, and learn what the words you use mean.
If you have a time and date stamp post where I used the word 'fraud' when refering to any Jew, please supply it.
DeleteIf you do not, it will be another illustration of your continued use of lies and deciet, here at the Elephant Bar.
Delete{;-)
As for Rocco Wachman, he is the employee of Loriell Equestrian Center, you claimed that the man who worked there was an anti-Semite.
DeletePlease provide the evidence, based upon his actions, that led you to that claim.
If you can, which is extremely doubtful.
That is the libel of Rocco Wachman, not that truth that his ancestors came to Judaism through proselyization.
That is not libel, that is historic reality. Based upon archeology, contemporaneous written accounts, and genetic studies done at John Hopkins Medical Center and the Albert Einstein School of Medicine, in New York.
Jack, you have libeled every Jew in America.
DeleteYou who have threatened and bullied some us on this blog.
You who have been reported to the AZ FBI....
You who will not get or get calls about your actions...
Jack, your world is collapsing....
DeleteYour peers have learned about you...
Jack, you lie, you distort and you libeled every American Jew.
DeleteYou called us frauds.
LIVE with your actions...
Or better yet?
Don't Do the honorable thing that disgraced have done for thousands of years.....
Go ahead we will understand if you do yourself in for the dishonor you have caused..
We will await the news of your own demise from your own hand....
DeleteNope, the letters have not arrived, I'd have gotten one if you had performed as promised.
DeleteHas not happened. Even if it had ...
It would not collapse my world. Perhaps your own is fragile and you are projecting, but mine, nope.
Jack you have played your last hand...
DeleteYou have libeled all Jews.
You have brought shame upon yourself...
I was sure not to allow you to get one...
DeleteDon't be so sure your friends are your friends...
you didn't mail the letters, you don't know who got letters....
Deletebut the nice "wanted" on the top was a nice touch.
I decided "dead or alive" was over the top...
DeleteJack HawkinsMon Mar 02, 12:25:00 AM EST
DeleteNope, the letters have not arrived, I'd have gotten one if you had performed as promised.
always the narcissist, can't KNOW what you don't KNOW...
maybe they went out last week?
Deletemaybe only 6 went last week?
maybe only 3 went tomorrow?
who knows?
certainly NOT you?
when you least expect it, smile your on candid camera...
Put up the time and date stamped post where the word frraud was used in conjunction with any Ashkenazi Jew.
DeleteIt i impossible for you to do that.
Your lack of performance exemplifies the fact that you continue to lie and are decietful in your claims.
Step up your game or step away, you are making a fool of yourself.
Which is fun, but diminishes the quality of the discussion, exponentially.
DeleteThree or six or twenty-six or six hundred and sixty-six, makes absolutely no difference, except to again illustrate that when you claimed to be sending 65 letters, you were lying.
http://www.cavecreek.org/BusinessDirectoryii.aspx
DeleteJack LYING?
DeleteDon't expect me to TELL you exactly what I am doing!!!
LOL
But here's a clue...
Oh, wait...
LOL
Who knows who finds out about your online Jew hating, Israel bashing, Zionist trashing trash talk?
Are you not proud of it?
Jack.
Deletewhen you least expect it..
from a direction you don't expect...
LOL
Loser.
Revenge is serve best COLD Jack...
DeleteI do things ON MY TIME, not yours....
heck, I got the logs of the blog time stamped and dated too...
Deletemaybe this week, maybe it will be 4 years from now long after I have been banned from the blog....
I will never forget....
Delete{;-)
http://cavecreekmerchants.com
DeleteTry the Chamber of Commerce, too.
DeleteScottsdale, as well.
Then there is New River, Tonto Basin, Payson, Camp Verde and Cottonwood.
It is an extended market area.
As we discussed when the subject was electric cars.
Dewey, Prescott Valley and Prescott, lots of ranches and horse business up that a way, too.
DeleteLook at a map, it will become pretty clear, or convoluted, perhaps both.
DeleteThere is a Big Loop, which you gotta throw, if you're going to encompass the market .
Take Shea Blvd east from Scottsdale Road, out to the Beeline Highway. Then had north, pass the turn off to Tonto Basin and go through Payson. Head up the Rim and when you get to the top, get ready to head west, down off the mountain to Camp Verde. From there continue on to Cottonwood. Sedona is off to the north, but there are not a lot of horses up there, though you will pass through Cornville, where there are. From Cottonwood, go up to Sedona and ridge out, it is an awesome drive, with great views of the red rocks. From Prescott Valley, cruise into Prescott where the art gallerie keep the "West Alive".
The Phippen Museum is probably the best. Thn head back towards Phoenix, and exit the freeway at the New River exit.
The road snakes around, but will get you to the Carefree Highway, turn left and head to Cave Creek Road, take another left and cruise into town. El Encanto is the best restaurant, though the Smoke House, across the street is pretty good, too.
Anyway, that is the northern loop, lots of business out in those small towns, horses are available pretty cheap,
Check out the loop, and then figure out where my places are.
From Cottonwood, go up to Jerome and ridge out, ...
DeleteIt used to be a ghost town, full of hippies and where the police chief grew marijuana, back in the day.
Got Sedona on the mind, lots of hotels there, with tourists galore. The Forest Service won't permit any dude horse operations up there, they are the least amiable of all the Forest offices. Trying to get a work around worked out, so that town is on my mind, more than it deserves to be.
"There's something really wrong with you, rat"
ReplyDeleteTrish
Well, I'm turning in for the night, though I might have to get up to piss, as I foolishly drank some coffee. I love my coffee.
You need to get your beauty rest, rat. It's time for you to turn in too. You've put in another full day, slandering, lying, and behaving like a fool.
It must be exhausting for you.
Cheers !
Very little time involved here, at the EB, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
DeleteJust because you ay something, doe not make it so.
Especially considering your prescription drug regimen.
I'd give the Baghdad government, that is to say, the Shia, about a 15% chance of taming ISIS, that is to say, the Sunnis, all by themselves, without US troops, 'advisors' etc.
DeleteMaybe they'd get a chance if Egypt etc sent troops but I doubt they will do so.
And it would take the Shia a long l o n g time to do it.
DeleteProbably not, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
DeleteBut they may raze the city in the process of liberating it...
Which is why they may not want to have US along for the mission.
The US wouldn't do it that way, but the objectives of the Iraqi government and the US, they may not be one and the same,
It is their country, after all and not the sovereign territory of the United States.
Tikrit, being Saddam's home town probably holds a special significances in the minds of the Shia.
DeleteSo it is more likely that they plan on its destruction, rather than its liberation.
But those issues have to do with history, geography and social psychology, all subjects that Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson has shown himself to be ignorant of.
The Idaho Vandals are almost a better bet to win football, in overtime......
ReplyDeleteNo, they are not, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
DeleteThe vandals are truly losers, from a long line of losers.
The Shia Muslims scare the shiite out of the Israeli, that is why Bibi has come to DC, he is scared shitless.
"Very little time involved here, at the EB"
ReplyDeleteBwabwabwabwahahahahaha
Just everyday, nearly all day.......for y e a r s
Bwabwabwahaha
No, there are usually seven days a month where the exposure is rther limited.
DeleteThe other days, if you checked the timing, you'd learn about time management, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson
is rather limited
DeleteRight.
DeleteThose must be your court ordered community service days then.
It has begun ...
ReplyDeleteIraq moves against Islamic State in Tikrit
Iraq has launched a military operation to recapture Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit from Islamic State (IS), Iraqi TV says.
Local media reported that forces were attacking the city, backed by airstrikes from Iraqi fighter jets.
Those Russian built SU-25s, not US F-16s, are flying in support of ground operations.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31689433
ReplyDeleteIraqi army, Shi’ite militias launch attacks north of Baghdad
Iraq’s armed forces, backed by Shi’ite militia, attacked Islamic State strongholds north of Baghdad on Monday at the start of a campaign aimed at driving them out of the mainly Sunni Muslim province of Salahuddin.
Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi declared the start of the Salahuddin operations on Sunday during a visit to the government-held city of Samarra, where some of the thousands of troops and Shi’ite militia had gathered for the offensive.
...
In Salahuddin, Islamic State fighters control several strongholds including Tikrit, hometown of executed former president Saddam Hussein, and other Tigris river towns.
A source at the local military command said forces advanced north from Samarra towards the town of al-Dour, which officials describe as an Islamic State bastion, and Tikrit, which lies about 40 km (25 miles) north of Samarra.
Iraq’s air force was carrying out strikes in support of the advancing ground forces, who were being reinforced by troops and militia, known as Hashid Shaabi or Popular Mobilization units, from the neighboring province of Diyala to the east.
Iraqi army forces in a military base just north of Tikrit also bombarded Islamic State positions in the city, another source said.
Declaring the start of operations on Sunday evening, Abadi gave Islamic State supporters what he said was one last chance to lay down their arms, or face “the punishment they deserve because they stood with terrorism.”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/iraqi-army-shiite-militias-launch-attacks-north-of-baghdad/article23240894/
http://thehill.com/policy/international/234236-jordans-king-backs-obama-on-isis-label
ReplyDeleteJordan’s king said in an interview broadcast Sunday that President Obama is right not to call terror groups like the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) Islamic extremists.
“I think he is right and I think this is something that has to be understood on a much larger platform, because they're looking for legitimacy that they don't have inside of Islam,” King Abdullah said on “CNN’s Fareed Zakaria GPS.”
“When we're asked in this debate, you know, are you a moderate or extremist -- what these people want is to be called extremist. I mean, they take that as a badge of honor,” Abdullah said.
“I think by making this comparison that they're extremist Muslims actually is working exactly what these people want,” he added, saying a manifesto released by ISIS’s leader “has nothing to do with the tenets of Islam, which is a religion of tolerance that reaches out to other people.”
Abdullah also said the west must be unified in its response to ISIS.
“This is a this World War by other means, this brings Muslims, Christians, other religions together in this generational fight that all of us have to be in this together. So it's not a Western fight,” he said. “This is a fight inside of Islam where everybody comes together against these outlaws."
Abdullah said ISIS is “trying to invent falsely a linkage” to a caliphate that has “no truth of bearing in our history."
He said the terror group is bringing in “deluded, young men and women that think that this is sort of an Islamic nation.”
Abdullah also said the “barbarity” of the way ISIS executed a Jordanian pilot “shocked the Muslim world.”
Abdullah said he has not watched the video, adding that many Jordanians “refused to see what I think is propaganda.”
He said, however, that attempts to intimidate Jordanians will backfire.
“If you look at our history, we're a country that's used to being outgunned and outnumbered and we've always punched way above our weight, and I think if anything, Daesh has now got a sort of -- a tiger by the tail,” he said, using another name for ISIS. “And it just motivated Jordanians to sort of rally around the flag and the gloves have come off.”
Al-Iraqiya state television today reported that Iraqi government soldiers and Sunni and Shia militias allied against Isis were striking the city from different directions, backed by artillery and air strikes by Iraqi fighter jets.
ReplyDeleteMilitants were reportedly dislodged from some areas outside the city but no further details were given.
Controlling Tikrit would probably be necessary for any attempt to attack Mosul because of its strategic location for the flow of arms and military enforcements.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-in-iraq-operation-to-retake-saddam-husseins-birthplace-tikrit-from-militants-begins-10079292.html
from my new 'Focus On Iran Is Fighting For Civilization Files' -
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Exposing the role that Islamic jihad theology and ideology play in the modern global conflicts
Islamic Republic of Iran: Authorities raid Christian homes, ask them to leave country
March 1, 2015 10:26 pm By Robert Spencer 10 Comments
Iranian Christians“Irani, a convert from Islam, had originally been charged with ‘Mofsed-fel-arz’ or ‘spreading corruption on Earth,’ which carries the death penalty.”
“Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“Authorities in Iran Raid Christians’ Homes, Ask Them to Leave Country,” Morning Star News, March 1, 2015:
ISTANBUL, Turkey (Morning Star News) – A Christian in Iran who received 80 lashes for drinking communion wine has been asked to leave the country, human right activists said..............
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/islamic-republic-of-iran-authorities-raid-christian-homes-ask-them-to-leave-country
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Well good morning !, rat - O - rooter.
You are up at at 'em early again today.
I am up early as well, to take a piss, and, being up, I must check through my emails, do some replies, shower, and get ready for work.......
You are not heading off to the super secret hush hush cosmically important new project off the coasts of Panama again today ?
That would be a real bitch to have one's right hand and left foot cut off, wouldn't it.
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In the United States such a punishment would be called 'cruel and unusual punishment' and the courts and the legislatures would not allow it.
DeleteThe United States shows that it is fighting against civilization thereby.
Sanctions should be applied to us to force us to comply with the 7th century edicts of those fighting for civlization.
Was the "timing" dust-up over Mosul a strategy to misdirect Daesh's attention away from Tikrit?
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Rufus IIMon Mar 02, 08:42:00 AM EST
ReplyDeleteWas the "timing" dust-up over Mosul a strategy to misdirect Daesh's attention away from Tikrit?
Maybe.
I don't understand why Iraqi jets and pilots would be used against Tikrit when ours would surely be more effective, though.
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