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Thursday, January 08, 2015

Paris suspects in Charlie Hebdo terror attack still at large

Paris Charlie Hebdo attack: live

Latest updates after attack in which three suspect al-Qaeda gunmen attack offices of Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical magazine, with 12 dead






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• Three suspects named; one, Hamyd Mourad, hands himself in
• Brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi remain at large 
• Seven 'friends and associates' of suspects arrested 
• National day of mourning declared; midday silence
• Policeman seriously injured in second Paris shooting
• Paris Charlie Hebdo attack: January 7 as it happened

Latest 

08.39 Latest on the second shooting this morning in a suburb of southwestern Paris from: Henry Samuel 
QuoteThe police officer injured at Malakoff, southern Paris, is a woman. She is in a critical condition. The site has been cordoned off, with droves of police and emergency services.
However, authorities insist there is no proven link with the Charlie Hebdo killings.
According to iTele, two motorists were arguing after a collision, and when two police officers came over to help, one of the motorists opened fire. One suspect has been arrested, but the shooter has reportedly fled.
08.28 Thousands of people around the world have expressed their solidarity with satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo following the attack in Paris. 
We've pulled together a gallery of pictures from the global vigils held in protest against the terrorist atrocity. 
One of several Je Suis Charlie protests. (ENRIQUE CASTRO-MENDIVIL/REUTERS)
08.23 Matthew Holehouse, the Telegraph's Political Correspondent, says security has been raised at major public buildings in London following the Charlie Hebdo attack: 
QuoteExtra Metropolitan Police firearms officers were brought in from elsewhere in the capital to patrol the Houses of Parliament last night. 
Armed officers were also positioned at the front vehicle gates to the Palace of Westminster, in a change from normal practice. 
The attack coincided with the visit of Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, to London. 
Police officers are also understood to have visited the officers of at least one magazine which has published articles critical of radical Islam. Staff were told to keep the front door locked and contact the Metropolitan Police at the first sign of trouble. 
Theresa May, the Home Secretary, will this morning chair a meeting of COBRA, the government’s civil contingencies committee. 
The Prime Minister was briefed by MI5 and MI6 last night. He has offered France any assistance required from the British security services. 
The threat of an attack by a militant returning from Iraq and Syria is regarded as the greatest threat to British national security. 
The threat level was raised to Severe in August, meaning an attack is “highly likely” and could occur without warning. 
08.17 Television station iTELE said two police officers were lying on the ground after the attack. 
At least one officer has been seriously injured and one alleged gunman has been arrested, French media say. 
Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve is rushing to the scene of the incident, near Porte de Chatillon in the south of the French capital. 
08.11 We're getting the first pictures from the scene of the new Paris shooting this morning. 
Images show emergency medics and firefighters taking an injured person away on a stretcher near the site of the shootout in Montrouge. 
Medics and police at the scene of the Montrouge shooting. Thomas Samson/AFP
08.04 Le Monde reports that the Paris prosecutor's office has said no link has been confirmed "at this time" between the latest shooting and the attack against Charlie Hebdo. 
07.58 One suspect reportedly arrested after shootout in Malakoff, southern Paris. 
07.57 Said Kouachi, the older brother of the two suspects still missing, lived in Reims for the past year, a neighbour confirmed to RTL. 
07.46 Breaking: automatic gunfire has been reported at Montrouge near Paris, with one of two municipal policemen seriously injured, and gunmen escaping in metro, say French reports. 
Unclear if any link #CharlieHebdo 
07.44 The seven arrests made this morning are reportedly friends and associates of the three suspects. 
07.41 French sports newspaper L'Equipe - normally most accustomed to showing match results - has the headline: "Liberty 0 - Barbarity 12". 
Le Figaro's front page features an editorial claiming that "we did not, for a long time, want to admit that this war existed." It says that the French people must respond with unity, and with "arming themselves - morally, of course, but also politically and judicially."
Inside the paper, however, they detail why France should have expected this; how France is deeply involved in attacks against jihadists in North Africa and the Middle East; how 15 days ago a video was produced urging French Muslims to join the jihad; how Isil's magazine has just begun publishing in French. 
Le Parisien says "They will not kill freedom" - and inside describes the events as "Hollande's September 11". 
Liberation featured a blacked out cover with the words: "We are all Charlie."
07.30 The interior ministry has just confirmed that seven people have been arrested in connection with the investigation. 
It's not clear who they are, but we still think that the brothers Said and Cherif Kouachi are on the run. 
07.27 David Chazan in Charleville-Mezieres says Hamyd Mourad, the youngest suspect who handed himself in and according to some reports was in school during attack, is in custody and has not been charged. 
Hamyd Mourad is suspected of having been the getaway driver. 
07.03 Manuel Valls, the French prime minister, has been speaking on French television, and announced that "several" arrests have been made. 
Marine Le Pen, the leader of the far-Right Front National, has also been speaking - and told France 2 that "Islamists have declared war on France". 
She said: "French people need us to tell it like it is."
06.45 These image of the two suspects still on the run - Said, left, and Cherif Kouachi - have been released by the French police: 
AFP 
06.00 Harriet Alexander, one of the Telegraph team in Paris reports: 
QuoteFrance is waking up to the news that one of the three men suspected of being involved in the attack has handed himself in, while the other two remain on the run. 
"Hamyd Mourad, 18, was thought to be the getaway driver but at around 11pm last night he went to police in Charleville-Mezieres, northeast of Paris, to say that he was not connected to the attack. BFMTV spoke to someone who claimed that he was at school with Mourad at the time of the attack. 
"Said Kourachi, 34, and his 32-year-old brother Cherif - who is well known to police - remain on the run, and television channels this morning are warning people not to approach them and giving out a phone number to contact if they are seen by the public. 
04.20 Tributes continue to pour in for the slain journalists and cartoonists. a tearful Phillipe Val, the former Charlie Hebdo, is particularly poignant and moving on France Inter
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“They were so alive, they loved to make people happy, to make them laugh, to give them generous ideas. They were very good people. They were the best among us, as those who make us laugh, who are for liberty ... They were assassinated, it is an insufferable butchery. 
"We must be helped to stand up against this horror. Terror must not defeat joie de vivre and the freedom of expression. 
"I am all alone, all my friends have gone...our country is not the same.A type of journalism has been exterminated. 
"We must continue to laugh, but it is difficult today
03.40 David Chazan is at Charleville-Mézières, north-eastern France, where the youngest suspect surrendered, He reports: 
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The youngest of the three suspects, 18-year-old Hamyd Mourad, has surrendered to police here. He reportedly walked into the main police station of this town in north-eastern France and told investigators he was innocent. 
Police have issued photos of the two other suspects still at large, Said Kouachi, 34, and his brother Cherif, 32. They are appealing to anyone who sees them to alert police but not to approach them, as they are likely to be armed. Local sources say police reinforcements have been deployed on the border with Belgium, and a manhunt is in progress in the region.
03.00 Plenty of political reaction to the horrific attack in Paris. The remarks of Ron Paul, a libertarian Republican and one time presidential hopeful, on NewsMaxTV are likely to prove controversial. 
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This is pretty obscene, when it comes to violence, and libertarians are pretty annoyed by anybody who initiates violence 
But in the context of things, France has been a target for many, many years, because they’ve been involved in foreign affairs in Libya, and they really prodded us along in — recently in Libya, but they’ve been involved in Algeria, so they’ve had attacks like this, you know, not infrequently. So, it does involve, you know, their foreign policy as well. When people do this, you know, the rejection of the violence has to be made, and with that I agree.”
I put blame on bad policy that we don’t fully understand, and we don’t understand what they’re doing because the people who are objecting to the foreign policy that we pursue, they do it from a different perspective,” Paul added. “They see us as attacking them, and killing innocent people, so yes, they, they have — this doesn’t justify, so don’t put those words in my mouth — it doesn’t justify, but it explains it. 
02.25 Police name of the two brothers suspected of carrying out the killings, Cherif Kouachi, 32 and his brother Said, 34, who are still at large and described as "armed and dangerous". 
01.25 AFP and French broadcaster, iTele are both reporting that the youngest of the suspects, Hamyd Mourad, 18, has surrendered to the police at Charleville-Mezieres, 53 miles north east of Reims. 
01.00 White House says President Barack Obama rang his French counterpart, Francois Hollande from Air Force One to voice his sympathy and support. 
QuoteThe President reiterated his earlier remarks that our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their loved ones, and that Americans stand beside the people of France in the aftermath of this outrage. He offered the resources of the United States as France works to identify, apprehend, and bring to justice the perpetrators and anyone who helped plan or enable this terrorist attack. 
President Hollande thanked the President for his words of support and provided an update on steps being taken to care for the victims and to arrest those responsible. He affirmed that France will never waver when faced with such adversity and will continue to defend the values of freedom and tolerance that the French republic and its people so nobly embody. 
00.30 Francois Hollande, French president announces a day of national mourning. 
QuoteNothing can divide us, nothing should separate us. Freedom will always be stronger than barbarity. France has always known how to defeat its enemies when it has known how to defend its values. Let us be united and we shall triumph.

58 comments:

  1. >>Le Figaro's front page features an editorial claiming that "we did not, for a long time, want to admit that this war existed." It says that the French people must respond with unity, and with "arming themselves - morally, of course, but also politically and judicially."<<


    Hmmmm........even the first police responders were unarmed.....

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  2. EVERY article in today's Jihad Watch is devoted to this incident -

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/

    Never have seen anything like that before.

    Jihad Watch has, of course, being talking about and warning about this kind of thing forever.

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    1. And have the good sense to point the finger of blame at the actual perpetrators.

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    2. Minor incident of violence in a foreign country.
      Not that many victims, at all.

      Pretty much a weekly occurrence, in North American attacks.

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    3. You are a moron.

      If Jews had done it......

      But it was some of yours.

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    4. Someone here is Juda-centric.

      It sure ain't me or mine.

      {;-)

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  3. Apatzingán killings were by "federal death squads, similar to Tlatlaya".

    According to witnesses the victims were unarmed. Others say, the victims were gunned down without provocation; witness are unwavering when they say, “the victims were executed”.

    An account from a witness said, three victims had their hands behind their necks in a position of surrender, and they were unarmed, when killed.

    One was in a kneeling position, with his hands clasped behind his neck. They pleaded with the federal police not to shoot, but three loud booms emitted and the men were killed.

    These were a few of the events in Apatzingán, Michoacán, where 11 people were killed yesterday morning, which is suggesting to many of it being another ‘Tlatlaya 22’. There were two events recorded 1 death and 2 injuries in the one incident, 10 dead, 2-4 injured and 44 arrested in the other.

    The exact number of dead is elusive, from 9 to 20. Padre Goyo López, himself of Apatzingán, reported there were over 17 casualties.

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  4. Iguala mayor's wife charged with organized crime offenses

    The wife of the ex-mayor of Iguala, the Mexican city where 43 college students went missing in September, has been ordered jailed indefinitely for organized crime, prosecutors said Monday.

    Maria de los Angeles Pineda had been held under provisional arrest until now, in the case which has rocked Mexico.
    The 43 are feared dead.

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  5. Mexico admits 52 daily drug war deaths in Enrique Peña Nieto administration - 12,598 through July 31

    ... the PRI government is now officially admitting average monthly drug war deaths of 1,560 - a number which easily competes with or in some instances exceeds casualties reported during the administration of former president Felipe Calderón Hinojosa.

    Fifty-two deaths each and every day.


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    1. Panetta cites 150,000 deaths from narco-violence in Mexico in trilateral meeting in Toronto
      Mar 28, 2012
      Leon Panetta (US Sec of Defense) met with his counterparts from Mexico and Canada yesterday in Toronto. A headline story in the Mexican press (EFE article from El Diario is posted below) says that Panetta cited a report from Mexican General Galvan Galvan, Sec. of Defense in Mexico, that 150,000 people had been killed in the war on narcotrafficking.

      More than had been killed in the war in Syria, at that time.
      Add the Enrique Pena numbers to those of Senor Calderon ...

      With 200,000 dead, in the war in Mexico, why worry about a dozen in Paris?

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    2. You are just trying to deflect attention from your pals the Muslims.

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    3. Not at all, Anonymous, merely reporting on even greater violence, closer to home.

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  6. Jack Hawkins, Deuce and Rufus have made they choice clear.

    they support Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran.

    that says it all.

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    1. A simple question, why should anyone believe anything that Israel has to say? I know what I know about the USS Liberty. I could see with my own eyes what happened this past summer in Gaza. We have heard lie and lie from Netanyahu. Israel murders scientists and then lies about it. They became a nuclear power and lie about that. They lie about their so-called negotiations and settlements. They lie about their history.

      Israel and her supporters have completely salted the internet with their versions about Hamas and Iran and Hezbollah. I have no way of knowing about Hezbollah and Hamas, but I have no reticence about what they say about Iran is mostly fabrication.

      Politicians and leaders of other country can’t stand Netanyahu and call him a liar.

      Why would I stand or Israel? What has Israel done for the US? What has it cost the US?

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    2. Why would I stand for Israel?

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  7. Hmmmm.......as for Rufus, he may have a disability defense.

    It is true he was four square behind Hamas in its latest missile aggression against Israel. But it is also true he seems to take great pleasure in the body counts of the ISIS dead, and has made a prediction of their early demise.

    This is perplexing. He doesn't seem to realize that in outlook the two are the same, and in tactics nearly identical.

    All I can guess is that he may be in the throes of acute alcohol confusion, AAC, a disability for certain.

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  8. Anonymous, you are being led by the nose. The media barons have regulated your inputs, narrowed your consciousness.

    You believe, for so unknown reason, that everyone's motives are the same as your own.
    That your interests, are their interests.

    When nothing could be further from the truth.

    Men in general are quick to believe that which they wish to be true.
    - Julius Caesar

    You have become another sheeple in the system, Anonymous.

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    2. A lot like our character, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
      A character that prides himself on being manipulated by Rupert Murdock and his band of 'good looking' talking heads.
      A character that discards any data that does not set well with his preconceptions and biases.
      A character that one would hope was a caricature, but seems not to be.

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    3. One of your finest comments.

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    4. One will watch and wait, til the occupiers of the native lands prevail.

      There will be a NEW trail of tears for the white men of the Southwestern Occupied Zone of the Americas.

      There will be joy when those like Jack Hawkins, are set onto the trail.

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    5. The referenced finest comment by The Crapper is:

      >>>Jack HawkinsThu Jan 08, 10:05:00 AM EST

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      Just to be clear about an important matter.

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  9. I'd think that The Crapper would be extremely upset by a terrorist attack on a widely known symbol of freedom of expression, even by his good buds.

    After all, he runs his own vile mouth endlessly.

    This too is perplexing.

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    1. Why Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, why would anyone become upset at a skirmish in a war far, far from home?

      The casualty count, merely a dozen.
      About average for a Predator drone attack, less than the suicide bombing in Yemen, yesterday, or was it the day before?

      What would make this attack any more upsetting than any of the others, what sets it apart?
      That it happened in Paris, that it was the media that was targeted?
      The lives lost, in Paris, of no greater or lessor value than any of those lost in Michoacan, Mexico.

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    2. Jack, ever wonder what your jail cell will feel like when those war crimes you committed are prosecuted against you?

      Will you be so brave and arrogant when you live in a 6 x 6 cell til you expire?

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  10. Notice above The Crapper affirms he is anti-semitic, and does not deny his good buds are the Moslems.

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    1. Wrong, again Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
      Nothing written above concerns Semites.
      I have no buds amongst the Islamic.
      Unlike yourself I would not send US ground troops to defend one branch of clit clippers from another.

      But for some reason, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson has taken a fancy to Kurdish Muslims, and wants to spill US blood defending them from their religious brethren.

      The discovery of widespread FGM in Iraqi Kurdistan suggests the assumption to be incorrect that FGM is primarily an African phenomenon with only marginal occurrence in the eastern Islamic world. FGM is practiced at a rate of nearly 60 percent by Iraqi Kurds, then how prevalent is the practice in neighboring Syria where living conditions and cultural and religious practices are comparable?

      Why should a single US soldier die to protect this horrid cultural practice,

      Answer US that Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson


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    2. In Syria, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson you lionize the women of the YPG, the Syrian branch of the PKK
      The PKK which is a terrorist organization. Just like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Haganah.

      Why are some 'Moslem' terrorists good and some bad, on the Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson scale?

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    3. Jack, you are a supporter of Hamas, Iran and Hezbollah.

      Period.

      Your past actions, criminal, that is, prove you are on the wrong side of history and the law.

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  11. There is a Seattle based cartoonist, Mollie Norris I think the name is, who has been hiding out since some death threats she received several years ago due to a Moslem cartoon she created.

    Even her friends don't know where she may be.

    There is a fatwa out on her life. Just like Rushdie.

    There are several other examples of this around our own nation, and the world as well.

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  12. Suspects spotted, manhunt continues...
    Rob gas station with rocket launcher...
    Police find abandoned car with Molotov cocktails, Jihadist flags...

    REPORT: Cop Executed In Street Was Muslim..........Drudge

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  13. The Day of Marina Le Pen and Brigitte Bardot may now finally be arriving in France......

    >>>Bardot caught the attention of French intellectuals. She was the subject of Simone de Beauvoir's 1959 essay, The Lolita Syndrome, which described Bardot as a "locomotive of women's history" and built upon existentialist themes to declare her the first and most liberated woman of post-war France.[5]

    Bardot retired from the entertainment industry in 1973. During her career in show business, she starred in 47 films, performed in several musical shows, and recorded over 60 songs. She was awarded the Legion of Honour in 1985, but refused to receive it.[6] After her retirement, she established herself as an animal rights activist. During the 1990s, she generated controversy by criticizing immigration and Islam in France, and has been fined five times for inciting racial hatred.[7][8]<<<

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot



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  14. I admit, I, also, had to tap on my shit-o-meter a few times, just to see if it was working.

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  15. Yesterday, when I posted this list

    The targets damaged or destroyed included:

    - 58 tanks;

    - 184 HMMWVs, the highly mobile multi-purpose wheeled vehicles known as Humvees;

    - 26 armored personnel vehicles;

    - 303 technical vehicles;

    - 394 other vehicles;

    - 79 artillery, anti-aircraft weapons or mortars;

    - 41 staging areas;

    - 11 improvised explosive device positions;

    - 16 command posts;

    - 92 checkpoints;

    - 17 guard shacks;

    - 980 other buildings or barracks;

    - 673 fighting positions;

    - 52 bunkers;

    - 14 boats;

    - 23 stockpiles;

    - 259 oil infrastructure sites.

    I left out a very important number:

    American Casualties - Zero

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    1. How many civilians? Babies? Homes?

      Oh yeah, that don't matter...

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    2. I remember when you folks were cling the IDF PUSSIES for using their air force against Hamas.

      Well, as Rufus always says …..

      BURP..

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  16. We haven't flown that many missions.

    Your shit-o-meter is working well !

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  17. Gas is selling for $1.74 / Gallon in Memphis, today.


    This Prezdent is a disaster, I tells ya.

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    1. What is the AVERAGE price of gas today?

      You may be right, this Prezdent is a disaster -


      According to data from the Energy Information Agency, the average price of a gallon of regular unleaded gasoline in the United States was $1.838 on Jan. 19, 2009 — the day before Obama took office.

      Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/TheWire/gas-prices-up-96Obama-doubling/2013/02/13/id/490299/#ixzz3OFg2LBHT

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  18. A nice little editorial cartoon from a few months back particularly good for you gung ho ISIS attackers:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/incoming/not-that-that-ever-happened/article20859573/

    It's a gallery of them but the one I'm referring to is number 25 in the October gallery. The one with the words:

    "Embolden, as we are, by our HISTORY of constructive achievements in the region..."

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    1. Well, gung ho ho ho

      What a sense of humor you have.

      Just gung ho ho ho ho

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  19. The average price of a gallon of unleaded was $4.11 / Gallon when Bush crashed the economy in July, 2008.

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    1. Bush didn't crash the economy, but he must be a genius for bringing down the gas price, because it was $1.838 on the day he left office.

      ;)

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    2. Yeah, he was a "genius," alright. On the month he left office we lost 900,000 Jobs.

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    3. Blame Bwarney Frank.

      But I've said that before.

      Presidents don't have control of the economy.

      They do in foreign policy, and O'bozo has been a disaster. Were getting sucked back into Iraq because your guy took the troops out too soon, and we're losing in Afghanistan too, your guy's "must win" war, and your guy supported the MB in Egypt which was saved only by divine intervention and the Egyptian military, and your guy didn't even raise his voice, not once, in support of the protestors in Iran.

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    4. Rufus, you voted for a Muslim.

      :(

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    5. You must be the dumbest son bitch in the entire Galaxy !

      :)

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    6. Hell, you ARE the dumbest son bitch in the entire Galaxy.

      You supported Hamas, for Christ's sake.

      :(:(

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  20. If Obama's a Muslim, then I can't wait to vote for another one.

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    1. May Allah bless you, brother.

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    2. Allah, Jehovah, or the whore down the street - money, or blessings - you send'em, I'll take'em.

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    3. You desperately need 'em.

      :)

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    4. Particularly the blessings.

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  21. Everyday someone is grumpy around here. Today's my day so I'm going back to bed.

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  22. At 8 p.m., the Eiffel Tower went dark for five minutes.

    Moving on won't be easy for some, such as Paul Bagnulo, 52, founder of Premieres Lignes Television, which produces investigative documentaries. The company's office is in the same building as Charlie Hebdo, and Bagnula and his employees witnessed the killings.

    "I spent all morning in a cafe trying to cheer up my crew who were confronted with a lot of bodies and blood," he said. "I have been to Iraq six times during the worst of the war, where I witnessed many scenes like the one I saw Wednesday just next door to my office, but it's different when you see it in Sadr City (Iraq) than when you see it in Paris."

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