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Monday, December 29, 2014

US Voter turnout at record lows - Could it have anything to do with...?


  1. ...both parties are full of shit?

  2. Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson now telling us that 'common idiom' is sufficient for his thinking processes.

    Proving, once again, that sloppy language makes for sloppy thinking.

  3. Jack now tells us Libya is NOT part of the middle east.

    1. I guess that those of Tripoli that were fighting America in 1783 were Catholics too?

    2. North Africa is not the Middle East, "O"rdure.

      Notice the differences in the words and their meanings.

      I guess that if you are a Humpty Dumpty intellectual, you can have the words mean whatever you choose.
      But if geography has any meaning ...

      Derna, Libya is not a seaport in Syria.

    3. But, for those that require graphic images to facilitate their learning ...
      here is a learning tool


    4. Notice, "O"rdure, that Libya is not on the map of the Middle East, provided by Yale University..

      If you were to open your mind to map reading, it would facilitate the expansion of your internalized data sets.

    5. Now it is generally agreed that the City of Rome is in 'The West'.
      Tripoli is directly south of Rome.
      Tripoli is west of Athens, Greece. Athens which is widely referred to as the cradle of Western civilization

      So how could Tripoli be west of the "Cradle of Western Civilization", and still be in the 'Middle East'.

      Your geography skills, "O"rdure, are worse than those of Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, a self-proclaimed 'Dumb Fuck'.

    6. Jack, sorry you are a retarded moron.


      I guess you will never be capable of having a reality based discussion.

  4. Americans are mostly dumb fucks?

    That's got my vote.

    1. You do speak for yourself, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.
      That is true enough.

    2. Jack "The Stalker, The War Criminal, The Self Professed Asshole, The Self Admitted Moron, The Dead Beat Dad, The Coward, The Liar, The Anti-Semite, The Racist" Hawkins, aka d. rat, is up and at 'em for another day, folks !

  5. “How to stab a Jew” going viral on Palestinian Authority social media

    December 28, 2014 5:03 pm By Robert Spencer 70 Comments

    In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad.

    “‘How to Stab a Jew’ Going Viral on Palestinian Authority Social Media,” by Tzvi Ben-Gedalyahu, Jewish Press, December 28, 2014:

    The “resisters of occupation in the occupied West Bank and Jerusalem” are spreading on Arab social media a frightening video demonstrating tactics on how to stab a Jew to death quickly and efficiently.

    The 1-minute and 13-second video, as seen below, shows the “teacher” calmly walking up to a “victim,” stabbing him, and walking away.

    One of the tactics appears to imitate the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) method of beheading.

    The guide to killing Jews teaches that after stabbing the victim, the knife should be twisted to maximize wounds and cause death.

    The Palestinian Authority and anti-Israel Arabs in Jerusalem do not need terrorist cells when “resisters” use social media to reach hundreds of thousands of Arabs in Jerusalem as well as in Judea, Gaza and Samaria, with a single simple post.

    Israel needs to find the source of whoever posted this video and arrest him or them.

    All of Israel is paying a heavy price, the price of life, for a decade of conducting “negotiations” with the Palestinian Authority while it has incited an entire generation to hate Jews and then murder them.

    Until the Palestinian Authority halts all incitement, and until Mahmoud Abbas starts condemning terrorists in Arabic as well as in English, and until the Obama administration understands that Israel means what it says, the government needs to stop all contact with Ramallah.

    Arab stabbing attacks on Jews have increased significantly this year, and every Israeli is a potential victim when “resisters” educate every Arab to be a murderer.



    >>>In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.<<<

    Good idea.

    Alas, some can't the difference, thinking that Iran, for instance, is 'fighting for civilization'.

    The media of the Arabs of Palestine is even worse now than in the days of Martha Gellhorn.

    She said their media was one long scream of hate, that they loved hate, rolled in it.....

    She didn't mention though, as far as I can remember, that murder techniques were taught among them through their social media.

  6. >>>>One of the tactics appears to imitate the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) method of beheading.<<<<

    PA/Hamas = ISIS = Boko Haram = all the others

    All the same bunch of shit.

    1. Zionists murder civilians, Jewish refugees in a False Flag operation

      On Nov. 25, 1940, a boat carrying Jewish refugees from Nazi Europe,
      exploded and sank off the coast of Palestine killing 252 people.

      The Zionist “Haganah” claimed the passengers committed suicide to protest British refusal to let them land.
      Years later, it admitted that rather than let the passengers go to Mauritius, it blew up the vessel for its propaganda value.

      “Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many,”
      Moshe Sharett, a former Israeli Prime Minister said at memorial service in 1958.


  7. I was reading yesterday, can't remember where, maybe Jihad Watch somewhere, that about 1,000 foreign fighters are entering 'Iraq' each month to sign up with ISIS.

    Each Month. :(

    This does not sound good, to say the least.

    1. Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, your memory is shot to shit.
      You failed to 'save' the reference.
      There is no telling 'when it was written, what time frame it encompasses, whether or not the data sets are even accurate.

      Worthless gibber from an admitted 'Dumb Fuck'.

    2. Here ya go, Crapper -

      US intel: 1,000 new foreign fighters join ISIS each mon...
      www.newshoundmedia.com › Breaking News

      Foreign fighters not deterred by air strikes against IS...
      news.nationalpost.com/2014/10/31/foreign-fighters-not... Cached

      More than 1,000 foreign fighters are streaming into Syria each month, a rate that has so far been unchanged by airstrikes against ISIS and efforts by other countries ...

      RT - 1,000 foreign fighters join # ISIS each month |...
      www.facebook.com/RTnews/posts/10152832127359411 Cached

      1,000 foreign fighters join #ISIS each month. Facebook logo. Email or Phone: Password: Keep me logged in. Forgot your password? ... 1,000 foreign fighters join ...

      You might particularly like this one:

      Foreign fighters not deterred by air strikes against IS...

      Take your choice, Crapper.

    3. >>>>More than 1,000 foreign fighters are streaming into Syria each month, a rate that has so far been unchanged by airstrikes against ISIS and efforts by other countries ......<<<<

      Epic 'ratshit Doctrine' FAIL

    4. Not one of those is a valid web address, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.

      Not a single one.

      You truly are a 'Dumb Fuck' just like you claim.

    5. You can always believe what 'Bob' says, even if he doesn't back it up immediately. The guy is lazy as hell.

      But honest, unlike 'Dishonest' Jack Hawkins.

    6. Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson tells us that 1,000 terrorists are entering Iraq, each month, to fight for ISIS.

      When challenged he provides invalid web addresses.
      Then he revises his remarks, changing Iraq to another country, entirely, Syria.
      Illustrating his ignorance of geography, one more time.

      Confirming that while he may mean well, he is a 'Dumb Fuck', just like he says.

    7. Syrian and Iraqi borders have dissolved.

      But Jack can't admit that he is actually just a dumb fuck.

      the link?


      works fine.

      Jack argues like jello…..

      Nothing firm or precise, just a load of jiggle.

    8. No, the borders have not dissolved.

      Israel still recognizes them.
      The US still recognizes them
      The Saudi do, as well.

      Who has announced the border between Syria and Iraq has dissolved?
      Who has recognized the legitimacy of the Islamic State?

      No one of any consequence.

    9. Still playing bullshit games Jack?

      the actual borders are gone. they might exist in the future when there are governments that can control them, but in reality, you know that place you never visit? they are dissolved.

      Now Turkey has a BORDER, as does Israel. recognized or not by others, the REALITY is you cannot just walk into Turkey or Israel without permission…

      Now in your great occupied state of AZ, you have no border. It may be on a map, but there is no reality…

      Maybe the original folks are just coming home…

      You should consider your occupation of other peoples lands a crime… and get out.. while they allow you to...

  8. Focus on 'Iran Fights For Civilization' - (new focus of mine, replacing Focus on Nigeria) :

    Netanyahu: Iran increasing efforts to deepen jihad activities in West Bank

    December 28, 2014 8:21 am By Robert Spencer 10 Comments

    Netanyahu IranIran is Shi’ite, but the Iranian mullahs hate Israel and the Jews more than they hate the Sunni jihadists in Judea and Samaria. Also, by aiding Sunni jihad activity, the Iranians continue to try to position themselves as the world leader of Muslims — a position for which they have a good deal of competition.

    “Netanyahu: Iran increasing efforts to deepen terrorist activities in West Bank,” by Herb Keinon, Jerusalem Post, December 28, 2014:

    Prime Minister Netanyahu condemns UN for not responding to PA official who said he is “excited” by Iranian directives to send weapons to West Bank.

    Iran is increasing its efforts to “deepen” its terrorist activities in the West Bank, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the cabinet at its weekly meeting on Sunday............


  9. "International Pariah" and "Mad Dog of the Middle East": 1981–86

    In 1981, the new US President Ronald Reagan declared Gaddafi an "international pariah" and the "mad dog of the Middle East". He pursued a hard line approach to Libya, erroneously considering it a puppet regime of the Soviet Union.[179] In turn, Gaddafi played up his commercial relationship with the Soviets, visiting Moscow again in April 1981 and 1985, and threatening to join the Warsaw Pact.[180] The Soviets were nevertheless cautious of Gaddafi, seeing him as an unpredictable extremist.[181] Beginning military exercises in the Gulf of Sirte – an area of sea that Libya claimed as a part of its territorial waters – in August 1981 the U.S. shot down two Libyan Su-22 planes monitoring them.[182] Closing down Libya's embassy in Washington D.C., Reagan advised U.S. companies operating in the country to reduce the number of American personnel stationed there.[183] In March 1982, the U.S. implemented an embargo of Libyan oil,[184] and in January 1986 ordered all U.S. companies to cease operating in the country, although several hundred workers remained.[185] Diplomatic relations also broke down with the U.K., after Libyan diplomats were accused of shooting dead Yvonne Fletcher, a British policewoman stationed outside their London embassy, in April 1984.[186] In Spring 1986, the U.S. Navy again began performing exercises in the Gulf of Sirte; the Libyan military retaliated, but failed as the U.S. sank several Libyan ships.[187]

    President Reagan called Tripoli the Middle East.

    Go fuck yourself Jack

    1. Ronald Wilson Reagan was wrong.

      He was as ignorant about geography with regards the Middle East as Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.

      Reagan, the ignoramus that, with regards to US involvement, fucked up both Lebanon and Afghanistan.

    2. He was the President, you are a horse shit scooper….

      Since you never served, it shows you have no respect for the Commander in Chief

    3. Being elected President does not make a person knowledgeable about global geography.

  10. Jack HawkinsMon Dec 29, 09:11:00 AM EST
    But, for those that require graphic images to facilitate their learning ...
    here is a learning tool


    Interesting LEARNING TOOL Jack.


    question: how long did you search to find a map as inaccurate as this? Portraying non "middle eastern" nations as part of the middle east…

    Talk about DUMB FUCKS…

    You certainly fit that bill…..

    1. The failed chocolate cook now wants to besmirch Yale University.

    2. Nice misdirection.

      we all noticed that you didn't address the issue that your "learning tool" was inaccurate and sucked..

      as you do...

    3. Yale University, is the address of the Learning Tool.

      Little wonder the Chocolate Emporium failed.

  11. Once again, jack the blogs, special needs person, proves he is a living example of Monty Python's
    it's just a flesh wound skit….


  12. Always good to show the readers in the morning that Jack Hawkins is a nitwit



    1. Figured you'd be hitting the highway ..


    2. nope got CHOCOLATE to make, parve dark chocolate…

      Here at the Chocolate Emporium II, right next to Corky's and Lenny's…

      Doing a FINE Parve business for all the jews and the moslems….

      They LOVE KOSHER…

      The moslems LOVE kosher. Better than halal

      They come in and are thrilled to support a zionist kosher chocolate maker….


  13. Oct. 31, eh? Isn't that about the time of the "Great U.S. Ebola Epidemic?"

    1. Despite what some befuddled, alzheimer-ridden politician may have written, Libya is in North Africa.

    2. About the only thing interesting left to opine about as regards "Iraq, and the Headcutters" is the timing of the assault on Mosul (and, hence, the death of the psychopaths.)

    3. It's all over but the dyin'

    4. Rufus IIMon Dec 29, 10:53:00 AM EST
      Despite what some befuddled, alzheimer-ridden politician may have written, Libya is in North Africa.

      It is considered the middle east.

    5. By whom?

      Not by cartographers.
      Not by anyone that can read a map.
      Not by anyone that understands the 'meaning' of words.

      Failed Chocolatiers, perhaps ...


    6. By folks that tell us that Europeans are a Semitic people.


    7. By folks that are 'Geographically Challenged'.

      Or as Robert "draft Dodger" Peterson would describe them ...

      'Dumb Fucks'

  14. Replies
    1. The only person I have described as a Dumb Fuck here is rat - O -rooter.

      I joke about Rufus. He knows his energy.

      Deuce is losing his grip, describing Iran as a nation fighting for civilization, but he is not stupid.

  15. The GOP's Economic Plan Has No Basis In Reality

    "In this as in other domains of public policy, Republicans have not shown a particular affinity for facts."

  16. Replies
    1. You'll notice that Egypt appears in both groupings; Libya does not.

    2. Middle East, the lands around the southern and eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea, extending from Morocco to the Arabian Peninsula and Iran and, by some definitions, sometimes beyond. The central part of this general area was formerly called the Near East, a name given to it by some of the first modern Western geographers and historians, who tended to divide what they called the Orient into three regions. Near East applied to the region nearest Europe, extending from the Mediterranean Sea to the Persian Gulf; Middle East, from the Persian Gulf to Southeast Asia; and Far East, those regions facing the Pacific Ocean.

      The change in usage began to evolve prior to World War II and tended to be confirmed during that war, when the term Middle East was given to the British military command in Egypt. By the mid-20th century a common definition of the Middle East encompassed the states or territories of Turkey, Cyprus, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jordan, Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and the various states and territories of Arabia proper (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, Bahrain, Qatar, and the Trucial States, or Trucial Oman [now United Arab Emirates]). Subsequent events have tended, in loose usage, to enlarge the number of lands included in the definition. The three North African countries of Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco are closely connected in sentiment and foreign policy with the Arab states. In addition, geographic factors often require statesmen and others to take account of Afghanistan and Pakistan in connection with the affairs of the Middle East.

      read and learn drunkard.

    3. Do not confuse "O"rdure with facts, Rufus.
      They make his head hurt.

    4. the barbary pirates were arab moslems..

      not berbers…



    5. Who they Barbary Pirates were has no significance upon WHERE they were.

      That there were Arabs in North Africa, not germane to the discussion of geography.

    6. The migration of any people did not change the location of the lands they migrated to, "O"rdure.

    7. Poland did not become Khazaristan when the people of Khazaristan migrated to Poland.
      The people from Khazaristan became Polish.

    8. Jack HawkinsMon Dec 29, 11:48:00 AM EST
      The migration of any people did not change the location of the lands they migrated to, "O"rdure.

      So when as you say, europeans migrated to Israel, they became Israeli...

    9. When Russians migrated to Israel, they too became Israelis..

      So when you call them "europeans" you are incorrect.


    10. When Palestinians migrated to Jordan, they are no longer Palestinians.

      they are jordanians.

      I get it now..

    11. When Palestinians migrated to Syria, they are no longer palestinians.

      they are syrians

  17. Egypt is in Africa. Nonetheless, the $70 million it has spent on the first phase of its Gaza barrier has an enormous impact on Gaza, which most certainly is in the Middle East.

    Reagan knew very well that Libya was not geographically part of the Middle East, Alzheimer's or not. There was no question that Libya was aiding the terrorists of the ME. That was the point, technicalities notwithstanding.

    1. No, allen, the point was not that Libya was aiding any particular group or sect
      The point was that Libya is not, was not, part of the Middle East.

      That is the only point that is germane to the conversation.

    2. It all depends on how one defines middle east.

  18. but it was not until the expansion of the Ottoman Empire and the arrival of the privateer and admiral Kemal Reis in 1487 that the Barbary corsairs became a true menace to Christian shipping.[4]

    The Barbary Pirates are interesting history, as is "the trail of tears," the war in Vietnam, and the battle of the Alamo, but not, as Rat put it, germane to any present discussion of geography.

    1. The shores of North Africa have ALWAYS been a thorn in the side of the Europeans.

      Dating back to the Punic Wars, at least.
      Well before the advent of Christianity or Islam.

    2. Kind of like how "The Europeans have always been a thorn in the side of the Palestinians."


    3. Funny how the Barbary Coasters were "pirates," but the Vikings were "brave warriors, and conquerors." :)

    4. please post anything, anytime I ever referred to the Vikings as brave warriors..

    5. While such raids had occurred since soon after the Muslim conquest of the region


    6. Such unrestrained hubris you have, "O"rdure, to think that Rufus's comments about Vikings had any connection to you.

    7. The Rufus Folk were killers and slavers, and stole their land from Sioux.

    8. rat's ancestors were simple, but noble, beggars.

    9. rat himself is a simple ignoble beggar.

      He lives in his mother's basement, that she begged for all her life.

      He never had a cattle ranch, nor a print shop, nor a Portfolio.

  19. Replies
    1. The Pakistani must not have much of a legal case against that fella.
      Given how they have recently gone 'whole hog' executing terrorists.

    2. The Pakistani, Mr. Arizoni, probably have a perfectly good legal case against that fella but told the court not to pursue the action.

      Why are you saying they don't, when you obviously don't know for sure?

      Just more of your meandering bullshit, talking just to be talking.

  20. BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi security forces and pro-government militias took control of large parts of the Tigris River town of Dhuluiya north of Baghdad on Monday from Islamic State fighters, police and army sources said.

  21. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the most admired woman of 2014, a new poll has found.

    According to a Gallup’s annual list of most admired public figures, conducted Dec. 8-11 of 805 adults, 12 percent of people named her. She was the only person to reach double digits on the women’s list, and it’s the 19th time in the poll’s history that she has come in first.

    Clinton is “easily the most [admired] of any woman in Gallup’s history of asking the most admired question, six more times than Eleanor Roosevelt,” Gallup said.

    Oprah Winfrey came second with 8 percent, while Nobel Peace Prize-winning Pakistani teen Malala Yousafzai got 5 percent.

    A number of other women in the political arena also made the list including former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice with 4 percent, Michelle Obama with 3 percent, and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin with 2 percent.

    Massachusetts Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who is often floated as a possible 2016 presidential contender, attracted 1 percent. And former First Lady Laura Bush also got 1 percent.

  22. Here are five things to know about Americans' sense of civic duty:



    Americans' commitment to some traditional obligations of citizenship has slipped.

    An Associated Press-GfK poll repeated questions asked in 1984 about six civic-minded activities: voting, volunteering, serving on a jury, reporting crime, knowing English and keeping informed about news and public issues.

    Of the six, only voting and volunteering were embraced about as strongly as three decades ago, when NORC at the University of Chicago posed those questions to Americans on the General Social Survey, but volunteering doesn't rank very high on the list for many.

    While just 28 percent say volunteering is "a very important obligation" that a citizen owes the country, three-fourths of Americans consider voting central to citizenship.

    Nonetheless, only about 36 percent of eligible voters turned out for November's midterms, according to University of Florida Associate Professor Michael P. McDonald's analysis. That's the lowest since World War II.


    Despite some sliding, Americans still think U.S. citizenship carries some duties as well as rights.

    About 9 out of 10 say that reporting a crime you witness, voting in elections, knowing English and serving on a jury when called are at least "somewhat important" obligations.

    And each of those is still rated "very important" by a majority. It's just that, except in the case of voting, those majorities have slipped by an average of about 13 percentage points.

    "There are a lot of arguments about how our society has shifted toward a rights focus instead of an obligation focus," said Scott Keeter, director of survey research at the Pew Research Center. But Keeter isn't convinced there's enough evidence to support that conclusion.

    "It's a little early to pull the alarm bells about the demise of our civic culture," he said.



    Young people are feeling less dutiful, or maybe just showing their libertarian streak.

    In every category except volunteering, adults under 30 were less likely than their elders to see any obligation, and also felt less obliged than young people of the past.

    In 2014 about a fourth of them said there's no duty to keep informed, volunteer or speak English.

    Young adults felt the most responsibility about reporting a crime: two-thirds said that's "very important," and the rest were divided between "somewhat important" and "not an obligation."

    Still, in 1984, their parents' generation was much more devoted to maintaining law and order ? 86 percent of young adults then called reporting crime "very important."


    1. ———


      Compared to the 1984 survey, Americans' sense of obligation fell across every category and age, save one.

      Today's young people are more likely than their parents' generation to consider giving their time for community service "very important."

      Nineteen percent said that three decades ago; 29 percent think so now.

      "That's partly the fact that we have built up our institutions for volunteering," said Peter Levine, associate dean for research at Tufts' Tisch College of Citizenship and Public Service. "Something like 30 percent of high schools have service learning programs. They didn't have that in the 1980s."

      At the same time, the importance of volunteering declined among adults 50 and over compared to their age group 30 years ago.



      Americans don't feel much pressure to keep up with news and public issues anymore.

      Only 37 percent think that's very important, down from a majority ? 56 percent ? in 1984.

      In fact, a fifth say there's no obligation at all to stay fully informed.

      The young are even less likely to feel citizens ought to know what's going on, despite having unprecedented amounts of information at their fingertips.


      The AP-GfK Poll of 1,044 adults was conducted online July 24-28, 2014, using a sample drawn from GfK's probability-based KnowledgePanel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus or minus 3.4 percentage points.

      Respondents were first selected randomly using phone or mail survey methods and later interviewed online. People selected for KnowledgePanel who didn't otherwise have access to the Internet were provided access at no cost to them.


    Pictures of the Killing of Neda -


    Video of the Iranians Killing Neda for civilization's sake -


  24. Jack HawkinsMon Dec 29, 12:00:00 PM EST

    Poland did not become Khazaristan when the people of Khazaristan migrated to Poland.
    The people from Khazaristan became Polish.

    Deuce ☂Mon Dec 29, 01:31:00 PM EST

    : )

    But when the Deuce people migrated to Virginia and Pennsylvania from Europe they did not become injuns. They killed off all the injuns, and began calling themselves Americans.

  25. Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, your premier allies in the Middle East, the Sunni Kurds of Iraq, are today, and have been deeply allied with the Iranians, for over thirty years.

    Now,you cannot advocate for a "Free Kurdistan" and support those who have also sacrificed for that cause, with their blood and treasure, can you?

    You cannot be against the Daesh, IS, ISIS, ISIL, al-Qeada, and be against those that are locked in mortal combat and fighting against the radical Sunni extremists, too. Can you?

    1. You are confabulating again, Jack.

      It's a really bad sign.

      You need a nap now.

  26. Israel & Middle East

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    Foreign fighters not deterred by air strikes against ISIS as 1,000 continue to stream to Syria each month

    Greg Miller, Washington Post | October 31, 2014 | Last Updated: Oct 31 2:22 PM ET
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    Thick smoke and flames from an airstrike by the U.S.-led coalition rise in Kobani, Syria, as seen from a hilltop on the outskirts of Suruc, at the Turkey-Syria border Monday, Oct. 20, 2014.
    AP Photo/Lefteris PitarakisThick smoke and flames from an airstrike by the U.S.-led coalition rise in Kobani, Syria, as seen from a hilltop on the outskirts of Suruc, at the Turkey-Syria border Monday, Oct. 20, 2014.


    More than 1,000 foreign fighters are streaming into Syria each month, a rate that has so far been unchanged by airstrikes against ISIS and efforts by other countries to stem the flow of departures, according to U.S. intelligence and counterterrorism officials.

    The magnitude of the ongoing migration suggests that the U.S.-led air campaign has neither deterred significant numbers of militants from traveling to the region nor triggered such outrage that even more are flocking to the fight because of American intervention.....



  27. ISIS: 1,000 foreign fighters reach Syria each month
    In spite of air raids by U.S. and allies

    31 October, 19:25


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    (ANSAmed) - NEW YORK, OCTOBER 31 - About 1,000 foreign fighters each month are believed to reach Syria to join fundamentalist Islamist groups, a flow not stemmed by the start of air raids carried out by the United States and allies against ISIS, according to US intelligence.

    ''The flow of fighters making their way to Syria remains constant, so the overall number continues to rise'', a US intelligence official, whose name was withheld, told the Washington Post.

    With US intelligence estimating that such a flow of foreign fighters has continued over the past year, the Post estimated their numbers now exceed 16,000 - similar to the figure cited by a UN report, which put their number at around 15,000.

    According to the latest estimates, air raids carried out by allied forces have killed in Syria some 460 militants from ISIS and about 60 from the al Nusra Front. (ANSAmed)


    1. >>>>''The flow of fighters making their way to Syria remains constant, so the overall number continues to rise'', a US intelligence official, whose name was withheld, told the Washington Post.<<<<

    2. Syria is not Iraq, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.

      Until the US supplies close air support to those allied with the legitimate government of Syria, the Daesh will be hard to defeat, in Syria. Impossible for US to do it, from the air, without 'boots on the ground. The only boots readily available, they are allied with Assad.

    3. There is no Syria.

      There is no Iraq.

      Haven't you heard, Jack "War Criminal, etcetc" Hawkins?

      Jack "Dead Beat Dad" Hawkins?

      When you are around there is plenty of ratshit though.

    4. Of course there is a Syria and an Iraq, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson.

      Your pronouncements, made in Dumb Fuck, Idaho have absolutely no bearing on reality

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    Hundreds of US-led airstrikes and daily multi-million dollar military operations have failed to stem the tide of foreign fighters entering Iraq and Syria, who continue to pour in by their thousands, according to multiple reports.

    “The flow of fighters making their way to Syria remains constant, so the overall number continues to rise,” a US intelligence official told the Washington Post.

    Concrete changes might not be apparent for weeks the official said, noting the natural lag between the actual situation on the ground versus the scenario painted by analyzed intelligence.

    With US intelligence estimating that 1,000 foreign fighters continue to enter Iraq and Syria every month, the Post estimates that their numbers now exceed 16,000. That figure eclipses the number of foreign fighters who took up arms in any analogous conflict over the past decades, including the Soviet military campaign in Afghanistan.

    The figures fall within the same ballpark of a recent UN Security Council estimate. According to documents seen by The Guardian, 15,000 people have travelled to Syria and Iraq to fight alongside the so-called Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) and similar extremist groups. They come from more than 80 countries, the report states, “including a tail of countries that have not previously faced challenges relating to Al-Qaeda.”

    The figures mirror US intelligence estimates in September, which also reckoned some 15,000 foreign fighters had entered the region via 80 different countries.

    1. Reflecting the Post’s assessment, the UN committee notes that overall numbers since 2010 “are now many times the size of the cumulative numbers of foreign terrorist fighters between 1990 and 2010 – and are growing.”

      The committee, tasked with monitoring Al-Qaeda, did not mention the 80 states by name, though the overall geographical diversity of the fighters was unprecedented.

      Meanwhile, the reports sharply underscore how expensive US-led military efforts have so far proved ineffective at stemming the tide of the IS advance in Syria and Iraq.

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      AFP Photo/ISIL

      The United States and its allies have carried out more than 600 strikes so far in Syria and Iraq, with the strategic aim of allowing moderate opposition forces some breathing space to regroup. Since August 8, the US has flown 6,600 manned and unmanned sorties in Iraq and Syria at an estimated cost of $8.3 million a day, Defense News reports. Last week, it was reported that 32 civilians have died so far in the strikes.

      Earlier this month, the Associated Press, citing Pentagon data, estimated that the United States alone had spent approximately $1.1 billion on its military operations in Iraq and Syria since mid-June.

      Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby said this week that the bombing campaign was disrupting IS, though he admitted that any major offensive “may still be a ways off,” the Post cites him as saying.

      US officials have said that the uninterrupted flow of fighters is not a proper metric to measure the effectiveness of the airstrikes, which have killed an estimated 460 IS fighters since last month, on top of 60 more fighters from the Al-Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra.

      Officials have attributed the number and pace of foreign fighters arriving in the region to several factors, including sophisticated IS recruiting techniques, and the relative ease with which would-be jihadists can travel from the greater Middle East and Europe to Syria and Iraq.

      The UN report similarly recognized "the terror and recruitment value of multichannel, multi-language social and other media messaging," being conducted by the Islamic State.

      A recent CNN/ORC International survey found that 54 percent of respondents believe the strikes will degrade and destroy the military capability of IS. That figure is down from 61 percent in September.

      Meanwhile, the number of respondents who support sending US ground troops to engage the jihadists was 45 percent - a seven percent jump over the previous month. A majority, however, still oppose putting boots on the ground.


    2. Even RT is reporting "the ratshit Doctrine" FAIL.

    3. No, they are reporting that air strikes, without ground troops to take and hold the ground is a failure.
      The policy that Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson advocated for, 'Strategic Bombing' is what is failing, not the Rat Doctrine.

      In both Iraq and in Syria, specifically in Kobane, the Rat Doctrine has been and continues to be a success.

    4. >>>>Hundreds of US-led airstrikes and daily multi-million dollar military operations have failed to stem the tide of foreign fighters entering Iraq and Syria, who continue to pour in by their thousands, according to multiple reports.<<<<

      "ratshit Doctrine" FAIL, as reported in RT.

    5. Bobo,

      If you are going to cut and paste, put the paste into the comment box and then use “PREVIEW” Then use the edit and delete the extraneous items. You really trash up the page without doing it. If you keep doing it, I will delete the unedited pastes,.

    6. Sorry Deuce. Will try to do better.

      Rat-O said my references were phony about the 1,000, so I put some up.

    7. Though I think if you are worried about trash in the Bar, you might delete all of rat's posts.

      He now has me supporting ISIS, for god's sake.

      When all I have been saying is I think The Rufus Prediction is wildly optimistic, though I hope he is right, and that the world wouldn't be in this pickle if it weren't for O'bozo taking the troops out too soon.

      How that equates to supporting ISIS you will have to ask rat.

      He won't, of course, have any cogent answer.

      But, what the hell......

      har de har the rat's a gas.

  29. Monday, 29 December 2014

    Scores of Saudi citizens who joined ISIS have been killed in fights with Kurdish forces, al-Hayat daily reported.

    ISIS had selected Saudis as military leaders for the skirmishes with the Kurds, a source said. The majority of people killed in the fights were Saudi but there were Iraqis and Syrians among the dead.

    A Syrian human rights activist, who preferred anonymity, said the western Syrian city of Ayn al-Arab is controlled by Saudis who are members of ISIS.

    He added all military leaders of most cities and towns are Saudis selected by the militant group.

    The source noted that Saudis speak standard Arabic in order not to give away their accent and identity.

    However, most Syrians can recognize the Saudi accent, the source said. He believed the majority of people who carried out these attacks were young Saudis who were not even 18.

    Al-Hayat published a report earlier about young Saudis who blew themselves up in different places in Syria. All terrorists who join ISIS use nicknames.

    However, it is obvious that ISIS relies on Iraqi leaders in matters related to security and on Saudis in matters related to battle and religious issues, the source said.

    The reason behind this is that the Saudis gained experience in fighting when they were members of al-Qaeda.

    The source said Saudi members are also responsible for everything related to media and information.

    It is Saudis who speak for ISIS and recruit new members for the organization, according to the source.

    This article was first published in the Saudi Gazette on December 29, 2014.

  30. Really, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, one would have thought you knew better than to bet against the US, but ...
    Your anti-US sentiments must just overwhelm all sense.

    Betting against the US, no one has ever won, doing that.

    1. Not Daesh, nor their supporters like you.

      Your continued singing of praises for Daesh, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, will not save them

    2. Criminal, I am not 'betting' at all. It is Rufus who used the term bet when making his prediction - I think, IIRC, he said I bet.....

      What I think, rather than bet, is that with O'bozo as commander in chief things have gone very badly indeed.

      Taking the troops out too soon.

      Afghanistan is going to go to hell now as well, I think.

      I certainly wouldn't bet with you again.

      You don't pay your bets when you lose.

    3. As for there being No Iraq the Kurdish President of Iraq, he disagrees.

      Iraq president renounces British nationality

      As required by the country’s constitution, Iraq’s President Fuad Masoum has reportedly renounced his British nationality.

      On Monday, London-based Arabic newspaper, Asharq al-Awsat, reported that Masoum had completed the final legal procedures for formally renouncing his British nationality and citizenship.

      A statement issued by the Iraqi Presidency on Sunday said, “President of Iraq Fuad Masoum has returned his British passport to authorities in the United Kingdom,” adding, “Masoum thanked the authorities of the United Kingdom for granting him nationality, which allowed him freedom of movement and travel during the era of dictatorship,” according to the paper.

      “As soon as he took office, President Fuad Masoum took the decision to renounce his British passport and nationality in line with the spirit of the Iraqi constitution,” the newspaper cited presidential spokesman, Khalid Shawani, as saying.

      The Kurdish head of state replaced Jalal al-Talabani as the country’s seventh president earlier in the year following parliamentary elections

    4. Always come up with some rat shitter excuse or other.

      If you'd just admit what everyone knows, that you don't have any money, I'd simply forget it.

    5. You are not betting against me, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, you are betting against the United States of America.

      Good luck with that, not.

  31. Really, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, the libels are growing tiresome, but you have nothing else.

    If only you had not gotten drunk, and then regaled us with your life story.

    In Vino Veritas
    BobSun Jun 22, 01:42:00 PM EDT

    When did I ever say I was a scholar??

    I don't recall saying that.

    I have a college degree in English Lit. from U of Washington.

    To avoid being drafted in part. ...

    Now, if you had not advocated for the murder, butchery and canniblization of the
    162nd Fighter Wing of the Arizona Air National Guard, I could have let a lot of this shit slide ...

    But genocide and cannibalism, those are just not humorous, not laughing matters...

    1. The USMC has a number of Reserve Aviation Units in AZ, too.

      You plan on feeding the meat of those Marines to the poor, too?

    2. BobSun Feb 23, 10:56:00 PM EST
      "The argument that they are not native is amazing in light of the fact that neither are Europeans native."


      Shoot the Arizonans as well, give the meat to the poor.


    3. Your quotes, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, you now acknowledge they are trash?

  32. Now, with regards to the 'destruction' of Iraq.
    It is doing better than SodaStream ....

    The Daesh Insurgency will lead Iraq’s oil dependent economy to contract by 0.5 percent this year.

    One half of one percent contraction, considering the dire news that Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson has been spewing, seems to be next to nothing. Hardly any impact, at all, considering.


    1. ISIS owns a lot of the oil now, dimwit.

      They export through Turkey.

      They like money too.

    2. And they may be exporting out of Libya soon, too.

    3. World Finance: Well let’s look at oil production now. This is of course at the heart of Iraq’s economy, but OPEC has said that it’s not going to limit production, which means the oil prices are falling through the floor. So what sort of impact will this have on Iraq’s economy?

      Baroness Nicholson: 80 percent of Iraq’s oil is produced by I think Shell and BP. But you see the enormity of the income that Iraq has already got, and will still be pouring in, ...

    4. No, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, the Daesh does not control 'much' oil production.

      What facilities they do control, are targeted by Coalition aircraft.
      You are number than the average American, aren't you?

      If you quit reading 'news' that was 45 days or more old, you'd become better informed.

    5. You are dumber than the average American, aren't you?

  33. Epic fail: Free Syrian Army now under virtual control of al-Qaeda December 29, 2014 Al-Nusra using American weapons captured from US backed militias. More


    There. Trash free.

    1. Exactly, those that the Israeli would have accepted taking power in Syria got a lot of support.
      But then the US public got wind of the fact, and the wheels fell off.

      The Republicans still want to spend the money, but there is no one to give it to, other than Assad.

  34. Bob would rather see he U.S. lose a war than see Obama win one.

    1. Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson has a lifetime of subverting the government of the United States, Rufus.
      Told us all about not settling with the 'Federal Farmers Insurance', but told us that by threatening a 'frivolous lawsuit' the Federals could be pressured into paying more than was owed.

      In Vino Veritas

  35. It's been a tough month for the racist nutcakes.

    We're not all dead from ebola,

    and now Obama is kicking Daesh's asses from Kobane to Ramadi to Sinjar and Tal Afar.

    The man has put together a plan so good that not only have all the Europeans bought into it (including the French, for gods sake? :)) but even Iran, and the "never get involved, anywhere," Chinese want in.

  36. And, bob's buds cheer when our enemy gets lucky, and kills a man that's fighting on our side.

  37. Meanwhile, bob's team with its "1,000" recruits/month can't even take a small town literally next door.

    1. All done while Cutting the Defense Budget. :)

      Getting down toward 2.7% of GDP.

    2. BTW, you Obama-haters Do Realize the Federal Spending as a percentage of GDP has fallen to below 20%, right?

      Right? :)

      Yeah, sure you do.