The Pentagon Can Have Whatever It Wants. As Long As It's Not Less Money.
There is a lot of defense spending in your future.
The proposed defense budget is $554.2 billion, including $64 billion in war spending. The important number is the $490.1 billion "base budget." It is $3.3 billion larger than the amount allocated for fiscal 2014 and $3 billion higher than the Pentagon itself requested. Yes, that's right: Congressional leaders are forcing money on the Pentagon.
According to Politico Pro, that extra $3 billion is not only packed with “goodies for the military’s top defense contractors, including aerospace giants Lockheed Martin and Boeing,” it's a sign that the commander-in-chief is already a lame duck.
President Barack Obama is losing some of the control over the defense budget that his administration clawed away from top military commanders early in his presidency, with the service chiefs and Congress once again openly conspiring to undo tough spending decisions made by the White House and the Pentagon.The result: an omnibus spending package for this fiscal year that includes money to buy lots of weapons the Pentagon didn’t request but top commanders signaled they wanted anyway.
Here are some examples of the stuff Congress added above the Pentagon’s requested:
The bill would reject some of the Pentagon’s major cost-cutting efforts and shift money to congressionally popular programs such as the A-10 close air support aircraft, called the “Warthog;” Boeing’s radar-jamming EA-18G Growlers; and Raytheon Co.’s Tomahawk missiles and ships, including the preservation of the aircraft carrier USS George Washington.
The bill also includes four more F-35 planes than the Pentagon requested, for a total of 38 planes. The F-35 is already more than a decade overdue, more than 100 percent over budget, and it currently can't fly at night, in clouds, or near lightning.
This sort of profligate spending is consistent with what we saw during the Bush years. A recent report from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that inflation-adjusted base funding jumped from $384 billion in fiscal year 2000 to $502 billion in fiscal year 2014. That's an increase of 31 percent.
However, even that fat increase doesn’t do full justice to the tremendous splurge in defense spending during the Bush years. There was a 52 percent increase between 2001's base budget (the lowest of the decade) and 2010 (its peak level). These numbers exclude the trillions of dollars spent on wars since 2003. Nor do they account for all the defense-related spending that goes through other departments such as the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Energy.
Defense contractors have benefited handsomely over the past 15 years. They were somewhat frustrated by the minimal caps placed on defense spending via sequestration, but they shouldn't have worried. Spending caps, especially when they are tied to defense, are meant to be broken. Contractors are poised to keep doing well, despite the ending of most operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The fastest growing share of the Defense budget is pay and benefits for military and civilian Defense Department employees, which has increased 46 percent in real dollars. And of course, it is worse than it looks since there are also substantial personnel costs contained within the operations and maintenance component (O&M) of the budget. That jumped 34 percent in real dollars between 2000 and 2014.
As with other parts of the federal government, health care and pension costs for Defense workers are well on their way to bankrupting us all. As we explained over at Mercatus:
About one-third of this increase was driven by increases in federal civilian employee pay and benefits, excluding health insurance. The cost of the Defense Health Benefits program doubled, which accounted for another third of the increase in O&M. As the CBO notes, “primary reasons for that growth are the new and expanded TRICARE benefits that lawmakers authorized, including expanded benefits for reservists and their families, and the very low out-of-pocket costs of TRICARE relative to other health care plans.” The rest of the increase in the O&M component can be attributed to rising fuel costs, operations support, and “other.”
Congress clearly has no intention of refomring these bloated programs. What's make it even worse, Pentagon officials—who understand that more health care spending means fewer tanks and bombs—tried to include changes that would slow the rate of growth in benefits in the 2015 National Defense Authorization Act. It turns out that the military can get anything it wants. As long as it's not less money.
In 2012, Reason TV outlined "3 Reasons Conservatives Should Cut Defense Spending Now!" Watch below:
allenThu Dec 11, 01:00:00 PM EST
ReplyDeletePALESTINIAN POLL: 80% SUPPORT JERUSALEM TERROR ATTACKS
The poll also showed that if new presidential elections were held today between Hamas’s Ismail Haniyeh and Fatah’s Mahmoud Abbas, Haniyeh would win 53% to 42%. If there were new legislative elections, Hamas would defeat Fatah by a similar margin.
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What is wrong with the 20% that do not? The number is remarkably close to US history where Historians have estimated that between 15 and 20 percent of the 2.5 million whites in the US colonies were Loyalists, or about 500,000 men, women and children.
Let me translate for you Allen, 80% of US white Americans supported attacks against the foreign British occupiers and by and large they were far less brutal than the European and American Jews that occupy Palestine. Of course the Israelis are hated by the Palestinians. Who in their right mind can blame them?
I guess you didn't get the 1948 memo. Israel is not a colony nor occupiers.
DeleteBut the good news? The further into ISIS type people the Palestinians evolve into? The further support they will get in the world.
Yh 1948 mm was illegitimate.
DeleteThe UN Resolution tat remedied the situation, ignored by the Zionists, unilaterally.
How's the candy business?
Not so good, aye.
Like non-existent, now.
Like the Zionist polity of Israel soon will be, too.
Henry Kissinger: ''In 10 years Israel will cease to exist''
Less than 8 years to go ...
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2012/10/30/16913.shtml
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The 1948 mm was illegitimate
DeleteBetter get some more coffee!
That is what happens to foreign occupation forces be they civilian or military. In Israel’s case they are both. The US suffers the blowback and pays the price for supporting the occupation. In US history, US colonists detested the British and loved the French that did not support the British occupation. History repeats except this time it is the Palestinians who are the colonists and the Israelis are the Hessians and British colonizers, occupiers and oppressors.
ReplyDeleteYour views of Israel are getting more and more looney by the day.
DeleteMy views are majority views.
DeleteMy expressions of them, probably not.
DeleteMajority?
DeleteWhat majority?
Not of America, the nation you claim to be loyal too.
Maybe the majority of Nazis and Jihadists of the world.
But the world had voted about it's feelings about jews, time and time again it wishes us dead.
We wish not to die.
And those that hate us? Don't like it that we insist on living.
Too bad.
"History repeats except this time it is the Palestinians who are the colonists and the Israelis are the Hessians and British colonizers, occupiers and oppressors."
DeleteGood Grief.
Many of the 'Palestinian colonizers' came in for the jobs created by the Jews.
Got tired of burning camel dung for heat out in the outback on those cold desert nights.
Others got kicked out of Jordan, etc.
Cling to your illusions, but being a Jew does not give you a dispensation for bad behavior when you clothe it in the bad and illegal political decisions of Israel. You jump into and out of the secular world and the religious as if you have an eternal right to do what you say is right regardless of how everyone else views it and other political bodies regulate it. Your Israel is outside of the law and is protected and shielded by the effect use of media and US politics.
DeleteDon’t be fooled to believe in your own hubris that the majority of US citizens are supportive. They are not but are intimidated from saying say so in ear shot of Jews.
Your limited experience on this small group that posts on this blog is more telling than you think or choose to believe.
Europeans and Latin Americans are far less cowed by your media propaganda and your castrato in the Conga Line.
People keep secrets and are hush about their believes. It is the same in all groups. Jews, in private are often loathing of Pentecostal Christians. You have expressed that inadvertently on thousands of comments criticizing both Bob and Teresita when they jump into and out of their Judaic and biblical ardor.
Of course there is no universal view by any group. To believe so is foolish and bigoted. There are many honest Jews that express views opposed to yours and other ardent Zionists. You revile them as self-loathing Jews.
You and Bob are soul brothers believing in group guilt and group prejudice and say far more racially based claims than anyone else on this blog. I believe that you are a serious person and hoot from the hip and give you credit for defense of the cause that you believe in. Bob is another case.
I doubt that you would ever do the foolish things that you often claim to wish for.
I cling to the belief that I have a right to live.
DeleteI cling to the knowledge that the no one will protect me from the savages at the door.
How the arab world or the rest of the world "views" me? I know.
The world hates the Jew.
Too bad.
As for being outside the law?
What law?
The law that allows the arabs to slaughter millions without recourse? The law that allows the Russians, French, Brits, Chinese and Americans to do what they want no matter what the excess?
The law.
What law?
The doesn't respect the fact that the LAW created the modern state of Israel.
As for the American public? I do not count on America for "being there", as it always HAS NOT. America, from James Baker, to Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford have shown us the "truth", from laws to keep Jews OUT of college and trades to exclusion of immigration that sent Jews to their deaths...
No illusions...
As for your pithy comment about what Jews say about those that hold nonsensical opinions about the Jewish scriptures? This must be understood in the prism of a thousand years of Christianity killing us to tell us what are books say...
As for "group" guilt?
Once again you are the one shooting from the hip.
The group I target are Hamas and Fatah and the arab SUBGROUP called Palestinians.
A tiny fraction of those that are called arabs and even a smaller group of those called moslems.
It's like calling out the crips and the bloods for their bad behavior...
they are a "group", ISIS are a "group" and America (and others here) cheer their deaths for the sky regardless of what women and kids are murdered in the process....
The issue of the palestinians is an artificial fight, set up by the world powers to fight the Jews since they lost on the battlefield.
But the fact is that Iran and the Palestinians are what is coming to the rest of the world....
ISIS is blowback to them..
Missiles, rockets and general lawlessness is now spreading across the same nations that have helped, fund and supported the use of terror groups and use of lawfare against the Jewish state...
Watch for the wholesale slaughter and or ethnic cleansing of the arabs/islamists spread across the globe...
all because of the Palestinianization of warfare....
The things that I claim to wish for?
The removal of Hamas and Fatah from the oppression of arabs that call themselves "palestnians"
The arrest and imprisonment of violent Islamists including the Mullahs of Iran.
How foolish is that?
It is Bozo foolish, "O"rdure.
DeleteJack, take what I am about to say seriously....
DeleteDo the world a favor..... Eat shit and die.
Why are the Palestinians so mean to the wonderful Israelis?
ReplyDeleteRAM ALLAH (Ma’an) — Some 19 Palestinians were injured on Thursday during clashes with Israeli forces in al-Bireh following the funeral of Palestinian official Ziad Abu Ein, a Ma’an reporter said.
Clashes broke out in the Jabal al-Tawil area between Palestinian mourners and Israeli forces who were heavily deployed inside the nearby illegal Israeli settlement of Psagot.
Nineteen Palestinians were injured by rubber-coated bullets and dozens suffered excessive tear gas inhalation.
Palestinians threw rocks and empty bottles at Israeli forces, who fired from inside the settlement.
Abu Ein died Wednesday after a confrontation with Israeli soldiers during a protest march against settlements by some 300 Palestinians who intended to plant olive trees as a symbolic act, an AFP photographer said.
Troops fired tear gas, three soldiers grabbed Abu Ein and he was struck in the chest during the confrontation. Videos circulating online showed the soldiers pushing Abu Ein firmly in the chest and neck.
Mirrored from Ma’an News Agency
Abu Ein should have been executed years ago for the 2 Israelis he was convicted of murdering.
DeleteAt least he is dead now..
Old men with bad hearts should resist the temptation to play rough with young guys. No one murdered Abu Ein.
DeleteDepends on whose "Law" is being applied.
DeleteThe Zioinsts deny they 'murdered' the thousands of Palestinians they have killed in the 21st century.
But that is Bozo talking.
“It is time to honestly admit that Israeli society is ill – and it is our duty to treat this disease,”
- Reuven Rivlin, President of Israel
It is time to admit that scum like "Jack Hawkins" should be arrested, tried and convicted of murder and silenced forever.
DeleteBig anti-immigrant, anti -moslem demonstrations going on in Dresden, Germany these days.
ReplyDeleteAngela Merkel keeps her head fully buried in the sand.
What does this have to do with an increase in our defense spending?
DeleteWhy, nothing all.
Just like all the other posts above.
We could have a thread about Q's Intimate Line of Male Lingerie and immediately the Palestinians would be smack dab in the middle of it.
Please and you and your Zionist posse differ?
DeleteIt has everything to do with defense spending. No oil - No Israel - No US wars in the Middle East.
DeleteNo Russia?
DeleteNo China?
No nuclear Iran?
We aren't building the F-35 to fight the Palestinians.
"Don’t be fooled to believe in your own hubris that the majority of US citizens are supportive. They are not but are intimidated from saying say so in ear shot of Jews."
Give us a break. No American is intimidated by the few Jews here. If Americans are intimidated by anyone it's by the few Moslems here, who might blow some of us up.
The majority of Americans are supportive of Israel because of culture. Their culture is kissing cousins to ours, much of ours having come from theirs. It's the Moslem culture Americans find alien. Further they are a democracy, and appreciate the rights of women.
Don't kid yourself.
You are fooling yourself.
For a break I'd rather talk about, instead of Israel and the 'Palesinians' -
ReplyDeleteWhy women are dyeing their armpit hair
By Peter Holley December 13 at 12:40 PM
Roxie Hunt’s first subject. (Courtesy of Roxie Hunt)
There is a new trend sprouting across the country. More specifically, there is a new trend sprouting in women’s armpits across the country, according to the New York Post and others.
Some women, you may have noticed, are growing out their armpit hair — and then dyeing it.
The origins of the dyed-pits trend can be traced to a Seattle hairdresser named Roxie Hunt...........
See photo of dyed armpit arm at start of article !
Ooooo...eeee.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/13/meet-the-woman-who-helped-start-the-dyed-armpit-hair-trend/
Quirk, unbelievably, had nothing to do with this new beauty innovation........didn't even come from Detroit, but Seattle......
I think Hillary's poll ratings might go up a bit if she'd grow out and dye her armpit hair.
DeleteOK, the Palestinians -
ReplyDeleteDecember 14, 2014
From Bad to Worse on Palestine
By Ted Belman
The world is totally committed to the two-state solution for the Palestinians. Country after country in Europe is passing non-binding resolutions to recognize Palestine in principle. The parameters of the deal which have been set in stone, notwithstanding that all issues are to be decided by negotiations, are the ’67 lines plus swaps and the division of Jerusalem. Never mind that such a deal is not good enough for the Arabs. Hamas rejects it outright. Mahmoud Abbas, as president of the PA, is still clamoring for the so called right of return and is unwilling to recognize Israel as the home of the Jews while at the same time insisting that “Palestine” be Judenrein. The EU has already put a boycott on goods from Judea and Samaria and is drafting legislation imposing sanctions on Israel. It is even rumored that the U.S. is contemplating doing the same. That’s ironic considering that both want to ease sanctions on Iran.
Israel, for its part, is going along to get along, at least to a degree. Netanyahu has agreed to negotiate the two-state solution subject to three pillars, “One, genuine mutual recognition; two, an end to all claims, including the right of return; and three, a long-term Israeli security presence.” He did not mention borders. Would he accept ’67 lines plus swaps? He didn’t say but I think it is implied. Even so, there are no takers.
The Palestinian Authority (PA) has turned its back on negotiations which would require it to accept these pillars and instead is getting ready to ask the UN Security Council to recognize Palestine and to set a deadline some three years hence, for Israel to evacuate the territories. The Obama administration is working to prevent this, but at the same time is considering the implications of not vetoing it. From the point of view of Obama, the more pressure on Israel, the better. Europe agrees. The European parliaments, one after another, have favored the recognition of Palestine in non-binding resolutions.
According to the Washington Post, the new Congressional spending bill states that “The bill stops assistance to the Palestinian Authority if it becomes a member of the United Nations or UN agencies without an agreement with Israel. It also prohibits funds for Hamas.” and provides “$3.1 billion in total aid for the country (Israel) plus $619.8 million in defense aid”. It has yet to pass.
Meanwhile, the PA continues its incitement and lies. A recent poll of Palestinians showed that 80 percent supported individual attacks by Palestinians who have stabbed Israelis or rammed cars into crowded train stations and 59.6 percent supporting rocket fire at Israel. Is this a partner for peace?
At long last, Israel is mounting certain responses. 1) Greater police presence in Jerusalem with fewer restrictions on them, 2) Greater penalties, like longer sentences, for any violent rioters and 3) Enacting zero-tolerance laws prohibiting incitement. The bill, not yet passed into law, states, “A call to an act of violence or terror deserves condemnation in the criminal realm as well, even if it is insufficient to lead to violence or terror. It does not deserve to be protected by the principle of freedom of expression.”
DeleteWednesday, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon attributed the building freeze in Judea and Samaria to pressure from the Obama administration and suggested Israel has to wait him out.
Speaking to reporters in Washington, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said that objection to “settlements” was longstanding and would not change after President Barack Obama leaves office in 2017 and said “Our policy has been consistent for quite some time,”
I am not so sure. Besides, she misses the point. While all administrations, from President Reagan on have considered settlements, while not illegal, an “obstacle to peace”, none of them forced Israel to freeze construction and even planning for construction and certainly not in Jerusalem.
The U.S. and the EU continually allege that settlements are an obstacle to peace. Have you ever heard them claim the same about PA incitement, or its support of terror, or its refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, or its unwillingness to forego the “right of return”? Maybe, a little bit in passing, but they have done nothing to change their position and hardly condemned them.
Furthermore, Obama’s decision to back negotiations based on borders along the ’67 lines plus swaps was a big mistake. Doing so was contrary to his often-stated position that any settlement must come through direct negotiations. He has forever repeated the mantra that neither side should take any unilateral moves which predetermine the outcome. He himself, by predetermining the borders is predetermining the outcome.
Had he not predetermined the borders of the final settlement, then Israel would have been entitled to build everywhere at its peril, meaning that when borders are agreed upon, if ever, the housing on Israel’s side would remain and the housing on the Palestinian side would have to be vacated if the PA insists on the Nazi doctrine of making the land Judenfrie and the West supports such a doctrine.
The only unilateral moves proscribed by the Oslo Accords and all subsequent agreements are those which change the status of the land. By this is meant, to claim sovereignty. So Israel can’t annex the land and the PA can’t go to the UN and ask them for sovereignty, not so long as the Oslo Accords have not been formally abrogated. The construction of housing by Israel in no way changes the status of the land. And neither does land use planning.
And if you think that Israel will agree to divide Jerusalem, its eternal capital, think again. Addressing a major conference of hundreds of diplomats and reporters, Nir Barkat, the mayor of Jerusalem, gave a very upbeat assessment of the transformation of Jerusalem that is taking place and will continue to take place. He stressed the commitment by himself and the government to maintain the status quo between all religions. He ended by disabusing the audience of any thoughts they might have about dividing Jerusalem. It will never happen, he said, and I believe him.
DeleteIsrael is consumed with the issue of whether to pass the nation-state bill which essentially declares that Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people. To do so, claims the left in Israel, is to diminish it as a democratic state. But there is no evidence to support this.
Eugene Kontorovich wrote a two-part article in the Washington Post, "The Legitimacy of Israel’s Nation-state Bill" in which he said the bill was unremarkable when compared to many European constitutions with similar, and stronger, national homeland provisions.
He also argued that:
“The proposed measure must also be understood in the context of Israel’s diplomatic situation. Israel’s biggest diplomatic issue is the status of Jerusalem and the West Bank, and international pressure to create a new Arab state there and in Gaza. The major argument by proponents of territorial withdrawal (including President Obama and Sec. Kerry) is that despite the serious security risks, Israel must retreat in order to maintain a “Jewish state.” Indeed, even foreign leaders, like President Obama and Secretary Kerry have both justified their pressure on Israel by invoking the preservation of the Israel’s Jewish identity.”
And went further:
“Thus supporters of Israel leaving the West Bank believe having a Jewish state is worth security risks, surrendering historical homeland and religious sites, and expelling over 100,000 Jews. That suggests a Jewish state is not merely a legitimate thing, but one that is worth a great deal. Yet the same voices calling for Israel to undertake dangerous diplomatic concessions in the name of preserving the state’s Jewish identity balk at legislation declaring that the state in fact is what they claim they want it to remain.”
According to a recent Israel Democracy Institute poll, 75% of Israeli Jews see no contradiction between Israel being Jewish and being democratic.
MEMRI, the NGO that for years documented what the Arabs, including the PA, say amongst themselves as opposed to what they say in English to the West, prefaced their latest report with this:
“Preacher At Al-Aqsa Mosque In Jerusalem Tells Jews: ‘We Shall Slaughter You Without Mercy’ and ‘I Say To [You] Loud And Clear: The Time For Your Slaughter Has Come'; Says Koran Depicted Jews ‘In The Most Abominable Images,’ Allah Turned The Jews ‘Into Apes And Pigs'; Calls To ‘Hasten The Establishment Of The State Of The Islamic Caliphate’”
Is there any making peace with these people?
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/12/from_bad_to_worse.html
g'nite
Deuce ☂Sat Dec 13, 10:25:00 PM EST
ReplyDeleteMy views are majority views.
As a citizen of the world, that may be true; as an American, it is rubbish.
Congress expressed unequivocal support for Israel, while harshly condemning Hamas. The backing was not only in words – it will grant one of largest-ever U.S. military aid packages to the Jewish State.
Congress does not represent the "Will" of the citizens.
DeleteIt represents a minority of the voters that participate in rigged elections, which is a minority of the people of the country.
Voter turnout in 2014 was the lowest since WWII
Just 36.4 percent of the voting-eligible population cast ballots ...
And Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson continues to regale US with tales of fraud amongst that 36.4%, so ...
If Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson's meme is believed, that number is to high.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/10/voter-turnout-in-2014-was-the-lowest-since-wwii/
DeleteI note that politicians rarely, if ever, support policies and programs diametrically opposed by their constituents.
DeletePersonally, I wish the monetary aid would stop. I hope the moral clarity which supports Israel against gangsters and thugs never stops.
I know all manner of people who are shocked by the anti-Israeli stands taken by European representative bodies in support of Abu Mazen et al. I do not find it surprising in the least. Were I to live to be 1,000, I would fully expect the process to be repeated over numerous cycles. Some things are transcendent: pan-European anti-Semitism is one of those things.
The Congress is an elective body. If the citizens of the US were adamantly opposed to the actions of Congress, elections would reflect that, just as the latest did. Statistically, the number of voters in the last election was representative of the will of the American people; any discrepancy would be within an extremely small margin error.
DeleteFor those who do not accept the will of the American people in Congress, return home.
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DeleteAnd it's a good thing Israel has friends in high places, Israel needs all the help it can get, I mean with the rampant poverty and all.
No doubt that $3.1 billion will go to help relieve the situation.
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No doubt that $3.1 billion will go to help relieve the situation.
DeleteProvides lots of JOBS for American..
This aid, although appreciated, requires Israel to pay for goods and services well about open market costs. Thus lining the pockets of American Military Establishment.
If America would stop spending, as reported here, hundreds of BILLIONS on support for the Islamists that surround Israel?
The game would change.
Do the words Chocolate Emporium have economic lessons for the rest of us?
DeleteThe failure of a twenty year old enterprise, indicative of the truth ....
“Bigotry does not consort easily with free trade.”
― Peter Ackroyd
The "O"riginal would often brag that the Chocolate Emporium would not do business with Muslims.
Now the Chocolate Emporium does not do any business, at all.
My business turns down business all the time with the islamic and arab world.
DeleteIF an American, who is a moslem buys from us? I do not prohibit it....
Could you QUOTE "The "O"riginal would often brag that the Chocolate Emporium would not do business with Muslims."
Anywhere and at any time that I ever said the term "Chocolate Emporium"?
LOL
ALL THESE YEARS you have been stalking the WRONG JEWS...
The F-35 is a plane whose time has passed. Things have gotten so bad that its fuel must be maintained at a temperature lower than normal. This means, of course, it will have to have its own tanker fleet -- no small thing.
ReplyDeleteIf the program were completed successfully today, the F-35 would be structurally and functionally obsolete.
Much like the Zionist dream of a "Greater Israel".
DeleteThe Zionist DREAM?
DeleteIs alive and well...
The Nation State of the Jewish People lives on...
But you keep trying to lie and invent nonsense..
Some here want India inducted into NATO, despite India being a client state of the Russians.
ReplyDeleteDespite the ineptitude of the Indian Intelligence services ...
ISIS Twitter account handler arrested: Major lapse in Indian security agencies a huge concern
The question here is if the police was aware of Mehdi’s activities then why didn’t it take any action on him?
If the account was created in 2009, why the Indian police couldn’t identify the person behind it?
The incident raises question over Indian security agencies; how a foreign channel could identify the suspect but not Indian agencies.
Those that think that 36% of those eligible to vote represent the people of the United States just do not understand math, or the societal quagmire the political functionaries have created in their attempt to remain in power.
ReplyDelete$490.1 Billion is approx. 2.8% of GDP.
ReplyDeleteThat might be the lowest in 50 years (or more.)
With the possible exception of the F-22 (which had many vociferous enemies,) the F-35 is the greatest warplane ever built.
ReplyDeleteAre all the bugs out, yet? No. Is it an amazing plane? You betcha.
The Zionists hate it because they off the approved customer list.
DeleteBTW, the Pentagon has denied the "hot fuel" story. They claim it is simply some local base commander's goofball initiative (maybe his brother-in-law is in the fuel truck painting business, or sumpin.)
DeleteRufus IISun Dec 14, 10:18:00 AM EST
DeleteThe Zionists hate it because they off the approved customer list.
Hey Rufus, are you always this stupid?
Though late to sign on to the network of nations purchasing the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, Israel will be the first international customer to operate the fifth-generation fighter.
“Israel will become the first non-U.S. operator of the F-35 in the world,” said Steve O’Bryan, Lockheed Martin’s vice president for F-35 program integration and business development in an interview at the Paris air show. The first F-35I combat squadron is expected to achieve initial operational capability in 2018.
Eight other countries have already committed to the program with firm contracts.
“The F-35 fighters going into service with these users will use different initial versions that will be upgraded later into the latest version, as it becomes available,” O’Bryan said. That mean F-35s will be tailored to individual nations, he says.
Now say: I am sorry for being a drunk, fucking anti-Semitic moron....
Israel Air Force to get only 14 F-35 fighter jets at once. Defense officials say the purchase is merely being staggered, and that the additional 17 fighter jets would be acquired in 2017.
DeleteAt least did not wipe out a twenty year old business with his bigotry.
DeleteIsrael inaugurates F-35 wing production line
DeleteDefense Minister Ya'alon hails US-Israel cooperation on $2.5 billion project
Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has inaugurated its wing production line for the F-35 fighter aircraft.
The automated line is expected to produce about four sets of wings per month that will later be attached to the F-35 fuselage in the US.
IAI is scheduled to produce more than 800 pairs of F-35 wings over the next decade.
The first set of wings will be ready for delivery to Lockheed Martin by mid-2015.
The potential sales are estimated at $2.5 billion
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Delete...the F-35 is the greatest warplane ever built.
Twenty years in design and development and still being grounded on a regular basis, 100% cost overrun, only one engine in order to save cost which creates tremendous stresses on the engine and can predict excessive maintenance to keep the plane running, in fact it will likely cost as much to maintain the plane as to purchase it. I recall a few years back a Rand study that said it couldn't climb, couldn't turn, and couldn't run.
We shall see.
[I saw there is speculation that China has somehow acquired the design specs for the F-35 since the new jet they have in development looks remarkable like the F-35. Although as I recall it has two engines, Russian engines no doubt but still...].
As for the F-22, although it hasn't engaged in combat yet, war games have proved its capability at doing what it was designed to do, take down multiple targets at up to 20 miles away. However, recent ones in France also proved that if an enemy can somehow get close to it it is vulnerable.
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At least Rufus hasn't said WE started the WOT.
DeleteHe just made a mistake.
He still has a memory, though.
Look at these innocent Palestinian kids..
ReplyDeleteIn 16 years? Many will be dead, killed by Israel
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-kids-of-hamas.html#.VI2rIsY3Zk8
But who is to blame?
The Israeli have already killed thousands of Palestinian children in the 21st century.
DeleteTo blame the political leaders of the victims ...
That is what Aerial Sharon did, when he spoke of David Ben-Gurion
... in "Shabtai Tzvi", Labor Zionism and the Holocaust, which was published also by Modiin, Barry Chamish writes (on pg. 232) that, about a year before he became Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon said that had Jabotinsky been head of the Jewish Agency instead of Ben-Gurion, millions of Jews would have been saved from the Holocaust.
"Perfidy, The Transfer Agreement", and "The Scared And The Doomed" are accurate books (which were created by Jewish people, not anti-Semite bigots) that detail how Labor Zionism prevented the rescue of European Jewry.
http://firstlightforum.wordpress.com/2012/06/26/zionists-collaborate-with-hitler-to-squeeze-the-lesser-jews-into-palestine/
Mr Sharon blamed the political leaders, not the victims themselves.
Jack, If the Palestinians loved their kids more than they loved killing Jews?
DeleteMany more Palestinian kids would grow up... But when you USE kids as shields for bunkers, bombs and bullets?
They die..
Play silly games? WIN silly prizes..
Jack "Dead Beat Dad" Hawkins shouldn't talk about kids.
DeleteHe didn't fund his Central American kid.
Jack HawkinsSun Dec 14, 10:29:00 AM EST
ReplyDeleteAt least did not wipe out a twenty year old business with his bigotry.
On acid again Jack?
Nope, not now not ever.
DeleteThe story of the demise of the Chocolate Emporium due to the bigotry of its "O"wner is a case study of how discrimination and business do not mix, well.
The story of the demise of the Chocolate Emporium is a story of non-innovative small American business....
DeleteHas NOTHING to do with me or bigotry...
Has everything to do with biogtry. "O"riginal woud brag about the orders he turned away.
DeleteHe would not take the money of Muslims.
It KILLED the Chocolate Emporium
Don't spread your denial and lies, "O"rdure, it is beneath the "Pay Grade" of the self-employed, entrepreneurial readers and contributors of the Elephant Bar.
We know what it takes to be successful, and "O"riginal did not.
Bigotry led to the demise of the Chocolate Emporium, any Bozo can see that.
You are on crack...
DeleteLOL
I do not know about the Chocolate Emporium, nor do aI care...
Try again nitwit.
It's great to see how Jack cannot fathom he has been DUPED...
DeleteAll these years stalking and harassing the Jews of the Chocolate Emporium....
Thinking it was me...
LOL
Maybe I should contact the ex-owners of the Chocolate Emporium and tell them of the economic terrorism that Jack Hawkins has caused them...
DeleteMaybe they can SUE Jack for some cash from all this polo winnings
:)
DeleteHe's bowling champ too.
They can go after the bowling trophies.
Mea Culpa on the F-35/Israel Comment.
ReplyDeleteEvidently, I was operating off of dated information. Stupid to do so without checking for more current sources.
btw, I probably get a good portion of such stupidity from my Danish, Dutch, English, Irish ancestors. It's unfair to blame the poor Cherokee blood for All of it.
Now say: I am sorry for being a drunk, fucking anti-Semitic moron....
DeleteI never said it was do to your Cherokee blood....
Rufus IISun Dec 14, 10:18:00 AM EST
DeleteThe Zionists hate it because they off the approved customer list.
Your comment is far more bigoted than "Mea Culpa on the F-35/Israel Comment"
You were being anti-Semitic.
OWN IT.
No, Rufus being truthful, has nothing at all to do with Semites.
DeleteI'll be goddamned; I saw the "drunk" part, and filled in the rest. I guess I'd better be careful until I've replaced the glasses that my little buddy broke.
DeleteBut, I'm Not "anti-Semitic." After all, what did the poor Palestinians ever do to me? No, I just dislike YOU, and all other Zionists. (Not "Jews," Zionists.)
No, Jackshit, Rufus was being an asshole..
DeleteOh that's right... You are a self professed "asshole".
Rufus IISun Dec 14, 10:56:00 AM EST
DeleteI'll be goddamned; I saw the "drunk" part, and filled in the rest. I guess I'd better be careful until I've replaced the glasses that my little buddy broke.
But, I'm Not "anti-Semitic." After all, what did the poor Palestinians ever do to me? No, I just dislike YOU, and all other Zionists. (Not "Jews," Zionists.)
You dislike "zionists"....
Fuck you,.
:)
Your president, Obama is a ZIONIST.
Maybe you should read a book and learn something...
Rufus, what did the palestinians do to you?
DeleteMurdered Bobby Kennedy, murdered TWA and American Airlines passengers and personal, and US solders on the tarmac of Lebanon?
What did the palestinians do to YOU?
Kidnapped American diplomats and executed them...
Rufus should we go on?
But you dislike those that think Jews should have the right to a homeland..
You are a prick.
I blame Truman
Delete(and, yes, Obama, Clinton, Bush I, Bush II, Reagan, Ford, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, and Eisenhower.
I Do Not blame freedom-fighters for fighting for freedom.
So only Jews that fight for freedom don't earn your liking or respect...
Delete"Fighting for freedom" has nothing to do with stealing other peoples' land.
DeleteSo what about AMERICA Rufus…
DeleteRufus you expose yourself as a jew hating bigot when you say that Israel has STOLE other people's lands..
DeleteReally..
the truth is a hard pill for you to swallow.
Your hatred of Jews and Israel is clear.
BE HONEST.
BUt let's not condemn you for hating Jews let's embrace it.
You believe that every OTHER people on the planet has the right to LIVE except for Jews.
Had a really great past couple of days.
ReplyDeletePlayed a little polo in SoCal before the storm rolled in. Looks positive for playing at Will Rogers Park this summer.
Then went up to Vegas for the National Finals Rodeo met up with Larry Mahon at South Point. Had not seen him for a few years, he was looking good, for an "Old Guy". He was one of the first flying cowboys, flew around the country in a single engine Cessna, back when that was not the norm for rodeo cowboys.
The NFR is such a success, for South Point, that the "Added Money" for next years event upped to $10 million dollars, up from $6 million this year. Lots and lots of money to be found in mucking stalls.
{;-)
Glad to KNOW you are supporting abortions and Israel with your tax dollars..
DeleteI do not pay much in taxes, "O"rdure.
DeleteI have very low personal income.
The trusts do well, my posterity is being taken care of.
Most of life qualifies as a corporate expense.
Corporations that are owned by trusts, which are people, too.
{;-)
SO you avoid paying taxes and scam the system.
Deleteyou are a parasite.
Funny, you thought it was great when Mitt took advantage of favorable tax laws.
DeleteYou argue so much like a teenager.
No, again you do not comprehend.
DeleteI pay every dime due.
I choose not to 'make' a lot of money, personally.
The corporations, which are people, too, make money, which is paid to the owners of the corporations, the trusts.
All pay the taxes that are owed, no more, no less.
I have a good lawyer/accountant team that handles the details.
Never questioned their creed, it is irrelevant to their performance.
I do advocate for 'changing' the tax system, but to no avail.
When someone obeys the law, they are not scammers, "O"rdure.
DeleteUnless the law is a scam.
Is it?
Or is the law the "Will" of the people, expressed through the Congress?
DeleteTo describe "O"rdure as a teenager is a slight to teenagers.
{;-)
Actually, yes - at least, to the teenagers I ran around with. :)
DeleteDid they advocate the genocide of Jews too like YOU?
DeleteI'm sure everyone would like to see a link for THAT.
DeleteYou just told us…
DeleteYou have zionists.
TO hate zionists is to advocate their genocide.
Rufus has disdain for slavery, he has no Zionists.
DeleteYou are a confused puppy, "O"rdure.
What is "Occupation"Sun Dec 14, 11:59:00 AM EST
You just told us…
You have zionists.
TO hate zionists is to advocate their genocide.
Those, like you are guilty of hating the Jews and advocating their mass extermination.
DeleteMy only hope is that Justice will prevail and you are arrested, tried and convicted of the war crimes you are guilty of.
Another lie, no one here has ever advocated for the mass extermination of any group, especially the 'Jews'.
Delete“I’m not asking if they’ve forgotten how to be Jews, but if they’ve forgotten how to be decent human beings.
Have they forgotten how to converse?”
- Reuven Rivlin, President of Israel
Jack, sure you have, all the time.
DeleteYou have told us numerous times that Israel needs to be destroyed…
Are you so ignorant that the effect of the destruction of israel would NOT lead to mass extermination?
you have told us of the lofty ideals of Hamas…
which hold that all jews should DIE…
You stand with Hamas and want to see Israel be destroyed..
Why are you such a pussy now?
you advocate the murder of all JEWS. You stand with hamas…
Be honest you prick….
Give me a break. Jack hasn't been out of his hole in Phoenix in twenty years. He has no cattle. He has no printing business. He has no money at all. He does not own stocks or bonds. He has no horse. He does not play polo. He bowls once in along while. He is broke.
DeleteRufus IISun Dec 14, 11:19:00 AM EST
ReplyDelete"Fighting for freedom" has nothing to do with stealing other peoples' land.
Quote of the day….
Rufus the proud supporter of Palestine
Hater of Jews that believe in their right to self determination, IE FREEDOM.
Rufus IISun Dec 14, 11:19:00 AM EST
"Fighting for freedom" has nothing to do with stealing other peoples' land.
So Rufus, What constitues ownership of land?
That should have been italicized ... mea culpa
DeleteYou didn't answer the question, stealer of native lands of AZ..
DeleteBy Rufus's own opinion, wen some native puts a bullet in your head for stealing his land?
The killer would be entitled to put a bullet in your head as you are an occupier colonist.
The killer can try.
DeleteThat is the way of the world.
To take the fight to th killers people, a war crime.
Collective punishment is a War Crime.
The Zionist in Israel have institutionalized it.
And the institutionalization of War Crimes, as state policy ...
DeleteThat is what the discussion is about
So says the killer of children in central america..
DeleteAn expert at war crimes he is...
The RufusFolk, the Cherokee, run out the Sioux, let's not fergit.....pushed 'em north......
DeleteRufus is a squatter on other people's land, like most of us.
The head of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Abdalla Salem el-Badri, said Sunday that OPEC has no set price target for oil, according to the Wall Street Journal.
ReplyDeleteHis comment, made at an event in Dubai, is likely to add further uncertainty to the turbulent oil market. The price of a barrel of light, sweet crude fell to $57.49, down from $98.17 at the end of 2013 -- a 41% decline.
"We are not going to change our minds because the prices went to $60 or to $40," Suhail Al-Mazrouei, the United Arab Emirates' oil minister said at the conference, according to Bloomberg. "We're not targeting a price; the market will stabilize itself."
OPEC said in November that it would keep production levels unchanged. Surging production and slower-than-expected demand have kept oil prices tumbling. Stock markets around the world have been unnerved by the plunge in oil prices, currently at their lowest levels in five years.
"Unlike in the past, when they have defended oil prices, they are defending market share," said Stewart Glickman, group head for energy and materials equity research at S&P Capital IQ. "They are going to face more bloodletting with oil prices until other swing producers feel enough pain to stop drilling."
Zionism is the movement for the nation home established in historic land of the Jews.
ReplyDeleteApproved and sanctioned by BOTH the League of Nations and the United Nations
But Rufus is opposed to Zionism.
Rufus, Deuce and Jack/Rat think that Israel has no right to be, nor to defend it's self.
The issue is simple.
Why should the Palestinians have a right to murder Jews freely without recourse?
Besides the fact that so many, (deuce, rufus, rat) enjoy watching and helping Jews die.
No, once again you are wrong.
DeleteThe question is not about the Palestinians 'right to murder' ...
It is about the Apartheid policies of the Zionist authoritarians in Palestine.
The attempted genocide of Palestinians by European Zionists.
If hate equal genocide ...
Genocidal statement made by Israelis about Palestinians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iyj6UPCChA
Naw, you lie
DeleteYou support Hamas and their right to murder Jews.
You are a supporter of genocide of the Jews.
Be honest.
Embrace your murderous nazis-like thoughts…
Be the prick we all know you to be...
AFP/Jerusalem
ReplyDeleteIsraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faces a growing threat from centre-left rivals who have joined forces to try to oust the right-wing leader in snap elections, experts say.
Parliament on Monday set polling day for March 17, just over two years after Netanyahu’s right-leaning coalition took office, and following a spat in which he fired two ministers and called the early vote.
The challenge will come from an alliance between Isaac Herzog’s Labour party and the centrist HaTnuah of former justice minister Tzipi Livni, whom Netanyahu dismissed along with finance minister Yair Lapid.
Such a centre-left alliance would win 24 seats in the 120-member Knesset, polls published in Yediot Aharonot and Maariv newspapers said on Friday, with the dailies respectively projecting 23 and 20 seats for Netanyahu’s Likud.
“Unlike in the previous elections (January 2013), we have a common goal—to replace Mr Netanyahu,”
Livni said in a television interview before the Labour-HaTnuah alliance was announced.
Tzipi Livni's appearance on one of Israel's most popular satirical programs earned her harsh rebukes from her former Likud colleagues on Sunday.
DeleteLivni delivered witty one-liners and jokes at the expense of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Channel 2's "State of the Nation," a program that often skewers Israel's politicos and public figures.
In the wake of her alliance with Labor Party chief Isaac Herzog, Livni quipped,
"It's better to have two potential prime ministers rather than a prime minister who suffers from impotence."
"Like in any solid relationship between a man and a woman, me and Buji (Herzog's nickname) have decided to take out the trash together,"
the former justice minister said, alluding to Netanyahu.
Saying "Thou Shalt Not Steal" is not is not synonymous to advocating for genocide. To say it is is nonsensical.
ReplyDeleteThe only one, I believe, that has ever advocated for genocide on this blog is Wio.
He only wanted to employ nuclear weapons on an inanimate object, disdaining the lives of the people that surround it.
DeleteHe has denied the very existence of the Palestinians, which is part of the 'book' definition of genocide, that is true enough.
DeleteRufus, once again your alcohol addled mind does not remember well….
DeleteI have NEVER advocated the genocide of a people
I have advocated the nuking of the black rock of mecca, or lazering it or stealing it and shooting it to the sun.
Now jack jacks off when he equates my pointing out the fakeness of a modern day invention called "palestinian" as a national group.
Denying another persons peoplehood aint genocide, it's called reality.
There is NO P in arabic…
Wake up and by the Jack, you deny the Jews of Israel as being true Jews..
Up yours asshole… by your own definition you advocate both real and jackoff versions of genocide.
What a sorry prick you are.
And, by the way, the Quote was:
ReplyDelete"But, I'm Not "anti-Semitic." After all, what did the poor Palestinians ever do to me? No, I just dislike YOU, and all other Zionists. (Not "Jews," Zionists.)"
I merely Dislike you, Wio. I don't know you nearly well enough to "hate" you.
Our little "O"rdure is constantly conflating words that have little to no relationship to each other.
DeleteZionist does not equal Jew
Israeli does not equal Jew
Semite does not equal Jew
"‘When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.'
‘The question is,' said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things."
‘The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master—that's all.'"
"O"rdure and the Zionist propagandists do not control the English language, try as they may they have not mastered it..
Yep, It's hard to saddle one who supports the Palestinians (semites) against the European invaders as being "anti-Semitic."
DeleteTruly nutty to even try, actually.
Hey Rufus, what about the hundreds of thousands of Jews that LIVED there before any european jews moved in ?
DeleteWhat about the 850,000 jews tossed out of their homes in the arab world and forced into Israel by the arabs…
does your drunken mind comprehend what a retarded moron you sound like?
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Sunday criticized his fellow Republicans and others who have defended the CIA's use of torture, accusing them of "rewriting history.
ReplyDelete.
DeleteThere are many people in the US who believe in 'American Exceptionalism'. I'm one of them. How you can believe that and still reconcile that belief with the argument 'we have to do this because they do it' is beyond me.
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Who made that argument - because they do it - who made that argument, Quirk?
DeleteI don't recall that at all.
I have listened to the argument closely. I don't remember anyone ever using that as a justification.
Who said that?
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ReplyDeleteOpec's most influential producers are willing to allow oil prices to fall to $40 per barrel before discussing whether the cartel should hold an emergency meeting to discuss cutting output.
According to Suhail al-Mazrouei, energy minister of the United Arab Emirates and a high profile delegate of the cartel: "We are not going to change our minds because the prices went to $60, or to $40."
The official's comments made to Bloomberg News at a conference in Dubai could add to further downward pressure on prices, which have already fallen more than 45pc since June. Brent crude - a global benchmark comprised of high-quality oil from 15 North Sea fields - closed last week at a new five-and-a-half-year low under $62 per barrel...
snip
Last week, the world's three leading energy bodies, including Opec cut the forecasts for demand growth into 2015.
According to the Paris-based International Energy Agency (IEA), growth in world demand for oil will next year again fall below the critical figure of 1m barrels per day (bpd), reaching 93.3m bpd in total. The agency has also warned of a 300m barrel increase that has built up in the storage tanks across Europe and North America.
American estimates for demand are even more depressed, with the Energy Information Administration (EIA) — part of the US Department of Energy — last week reducing its forecast demand growth to just 880,000 bpd, or 92.8m bpd in total. Finally, Opec itself shaved off 70,000 bpd to 92.26m bpd, of which it will account for a smaller share.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11292837/Opec-willing-to-push-oil-price-to-40-says-Gulf-oil-minister.html
I suspect OPEC is cutting its own throat though I'm not sure what they can do about it. Trying to maintain market share they may drive out small and marginal producers but these will probably simply be bought out by the big guys. Exxon will continue to make money even at $40 oil.
However, in countries like Canada where oil is a major part of their economy this is likely not a happy time.
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We inevitably all are mistaken about some things -- a fact worth remembering.
ReplyDeleteRe: F-35
Last week I saw a report that Italy is being tasked with maintenance of the fleet. Italy...Hm...That should keep them busy.
Funny Jack "I am a murderer" Hawkins has been stalking the wrong jew from Cleveland all this time..
ReplyDeleteI wonder if they could sue his trusts…
From Jack's own accounts his corporations are worth a pretty penny…
Chocolate Emporium in Cleveland sure have a libel suit against the person behind desert rat and Jack Hawkins..
I wonder how the legal bills will mount...
Jack's broke.
DeleteA deadbeat dad.
A liar.
No cattle.
Not even a hat.
d. rat 'may' get some sort of psychological disability payment from the Army.
DeleteIt's an open question.
Delusional statements made by liars and draft dodgers.
DeleteOf no factual basis ...
“A truth that's told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent.”
― William Blake
I am becoming deeply concerned about Quirk, whom I like a lot.
ReplyDeleteHe doesn't make much sense lately.
Seattle plays San Francisco again today.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to this.
Beats trying to cheer for Idaho.
Justice Scalia agrees with me about torture -
ReplyDeleteJustice Scalia: Constitution Doesn’t Prohibit Torture
by Matt Wilstein | 1:54 pm, December 13th, 2014 952
In an interview with Radio Television Suisse this week following the release of Senate Intelligence Committee’s CIA torture report, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia said he doesn’t “think it’s so clear at all” that the U.S. Constitution prohibits torture, especially in the “ticking time bomb” scenarios so often cited by defenders of the “enhanced interrogation techniques.”
“Listen, I think it’s very facile for people to say, ‘Oh, torture is terrible,’” Scalia told the Swiss radio network. “You posit the situation where a person that you know for sure knows the location of a nuclear bomb that has been planted in Los Angeles and will kill millions of people. You think it’s an easy question? You think it’s clear that you cannot use extreme measures to get that information out of that person?”
“I don’t know what article of the Constitution that would contravene,” the conservative justice added in reference to the harsh treatment of terrorism suspects.
As the Associated Press’ Mark Sherman reported Friday, Scalia has previously invoked the fictional Jack Bauer character from the television series 24 to make a similar point about torture.
“Are you going to convict Jack Bauer? Say that criminal law is against him? ‘You have the right to a jury trial?’ Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don’t think so,” Scalia argued at an Ottawa legal conference in 2007. “So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes.”
[Photo via screengrab]
http://www.mediaite.com/online/justice-scalia-constitution-doesnt-prohibit-torture/
Quirk would, if we are to believe him, let the bomb go off.....
Millions dead but Q's 'moral purity' still intact.
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DeleteJudge Scalia is like you, Obumble, a lard ass who sits around getting his rocks off watching Jack Bauer take out bad guys in made up scenarios created for television. He sits there rationalizing years of torture (torture that was not only a corruption of American ideals and mores, not only an abrogation of international treaties we have signed, torture that has weakened our ability to to speak to the world from the moral high ground, but also, as proved by the Senate report, was completely ineffective) based on some phony sophistic hypothetical he dreams up. Only a moron would accept the logic behind the argument.
Some here talk about 'culture' all the time; yet, are willing to accept the devolution of American culture and ideals because they are either scared shitless or mere sociopaths, arguing that sometimes you 'just got to do it'. The funny thing is I doubt most of those fat ass 'patriots' have to balls or would be willing to do the torture themselves. They want to leave it to others, the CIA or or some other country or some incompetent psychiatrists out to make a buck , hell, even the CIA ended up farming it out.
Things are always easier in the abstract.
I noticed when asked how far you would go 'personally' you never answered, Obumble. As I said, the answer itself whether yes or no defines you. I'm still waiting for your answer.
It is easy to dream of torturing someone in some dreamed up scenario that would never happen, to think of torture in the abstract as it were, and quite another to get down and dirty with the acts.
But, perhaps I'm wrong.
At any rate, I'm sure some will find it comforting to know that whenever we get into a situation "where a person that you know for sure knows the location of a nuclear bomb that has been planted in Los Angeles and will kill millions of people" we will have ol' Obumble and Scalia to don their gloves and their leather and beat the truth out of the guy. No doubt many will sleep easier tonight.
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Never watched Jack Bauer in my life, lard ass.
DeleteDon't even know who he is.
You really take being wrong hard, don't you?!
You can't even remember you started the WOT.
Can't remember 9/11.
jeeeeeze, Quirk, I'm really worried about you now.
Sea Hawks are up.
Cheers !!
who started, not you started - I don't blame you for it.
Delete.
DeleteO'Bumble in dreamland.
After all your hyperventilating, I see I still haven't gotten and answer out of you. You set up the scenario, what would you 'personally' do.
As a matter of fact, what do you think the odds are that the scenario described by Scalia would ever happen?
We spend tens of billions each year on 'intelligence'; yet, the reality remains, when seconds count our intelligence agencies are only minutes away. We are great at catching perpetrators after the fact, not so good at stopping them beforehand.
We are assured by the people behind the US torture program that it was effective in getting 'actionable information'. Yet, the Senate Report says it wasn't. The Senate Report was based on a review of 6.2 million CIA documents. From that, it came out with a 6300 page report with 38,000 footnotes referencing various CIA documents, reports, memos, e-mails, etc. The 600 page Summary Report is all we have seen. However, despite the access provided to the staff 7% of all the documents were redacted leaving some pages almost blank. In addition, there were 9000 documents that the White House refused to supply to the investigators. The report was still bad enough.
On the other side, you have the people who demanded the program, who concocted it, who carried it out, who are saying that it did provide 'actionable information'. The people being quoted most are high ranking officials including former directors all of whom were responsible for its implementation some who have been previously accused of lying and some who have themselves admitted to lying to Congress. The latest being the current Director, Brennan, who while still defending the program admits that whether the program provided any 'actionable information' or not is 'unknowable'.
Who you going to believe?
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DeleteI repeat.
After all your hyperventilating, I see I still haven't gotten and answer out of you.
You set up the scenario yourself, what would you, you 'personally', do?
Or is this merely some sophistic exercise on your part? Keep it abstract so you don't have to make any kind of personal commitment.
I think you should probably stick to questions you are more intellectually suited for like, 'how many angels can sit on the head of a pin.
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The Democratic Party’s losses at the state level are almost unprecedented, and could cripple it for a long time to come.
By Jamelle Bouie
Hillary Clinton, the Democrats’ one strong national prospect, speaks at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., on Dec. 3, 2014. Hillary Clinton, the Democrats’ one strong national prospect, speaks at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., on Dec. 3, 2014.
Photo by Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images
The most immediate consequence of the Democrats’ midterm disaster was losing control of the Senate and ceding Congress to the GOP. For the next two years, Democrats will have to deal with conservative legislation, right-wing hijinks, and—in all odds—a vacancy crisis, as Republicans freeze confirmations and refuse to fill spots in the executive branch and on the federal bench.
Jamelle Bouie Jamelle Bouie
Jamelle Bouie is a Slate staff writer covering politics, policy, and race.
That is bad for the Democratic Party. What’s on the horizon is worse. As Amy Walter notes for the Cook Political Report, Democrats lost big at all levels of government, including the states. “Today,” she writes, “about 55 percent of all state legislative seats in the country are held by Republicans. That’s the largest share of GOP state legislators since the 1920s.” What’s more, “just 11 states have an all Democratic-controlled legislature,” and Democrats hold single-party control in just seven states. By contrast, “Republicans have a legislative majority in 30 states, including the battleground states of Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina,” and single-party control in most of the South.
This, Walter says, is a slow-moving disaster for congressional Democrats. She’s right. Absent major gains in 2016, 2018, and 2020, Democrats will be shut out of the next round of redistricting. If, she writes, “Democrats can’t get a seat at the redistricting table in 2020, they may find themselves locked out of a congressional majority for another 10 years.” And even if they do get a seat at the table, argues Greg Sargent for the Washington Post, there’s still the problem of population distribution; even in blue states, most Democratic voters are crammed in a handful of urban areas, which dilutes their strength in House elections. Sargent quotes David Wasserman (also of the Cook Political Report): “If Democrats were to get neutral maps drawn by God in all 50 states, they would still fall well short of winning back the House,” says Wasserman. “What Democrats really need is a massive resettlement program.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/12/democratic_party_s_losses_at_the_state_level_are_extraordinary_the_party.html
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“What Democrats really need is a massive resettlement program.”
As in, say, a massive influx of third worlders via O'bozo's amnesty programs.
The Amnesty Programs, funded in full by the GOP in Congress.
DeleteTry a taste of reality, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson
The new Congress hasn't sat yet, Jack 'War Criminal, Professional Asshole, Dead Beat Dad" Hawkins.
DeleteYou were perfectly correct, for once, when you admitted to being a moron.
The only time I can think of when you were totally right about something.
DeleteBut, Robert "Draft Dodger" Peterson, the GOP controls the House of Representatives. That is where the funding for the Amnesty Program originated.
DeleteLearn some civics, will you.
As for the words in quotation marks, I can substantiate you are a "Draft Dodger" by your own words.
DeleteWhy do you not do the same?
We both know the truth, you cannot do it.
BobSun Jun 22, 01:42:00 PM EDT
When did I ever say I was a scholar??
I don't recall saying that.
I have a college degree in English Lit. from U of Washington.
To avoid being drafted in part. ...
Unless you can make the standard, you lose.
Game, Set, Match
That South Point is some kind of a great facility, lots of horses, lots of cowboys, lots and lots of money.
ReplyDeleteNo chocolate in sight.
Horse shit shipped out of there by the truck load, ...
There is lots more money in shoveling shit than in selling chocolate to a miniscule minority.
A "Good Businessman" would set up a mirrored organization to sell the Muslims the same recipes they were selling to the minuscule minority, since the dietary requirements are the mirrored in both groups.
Not much difference 'tween the dietary rules of both groups. When the Chocolate Emporium decided to 'Close the Door' on selling to Muslims, the proprietor chose to close the doors of the business.
Twenty years of building the business, down the drain.
The Chocolate Emporium they are in the shit can, now.
DeleteNo residual value, at all. Nothing to 'recycle'.
Just an ever fading memory of what 'used to be'.
Does not pay to be a hater, no indeed, it just does not pay.
Sea Hawks up in an hour, fans.
ReplyDeleteNo one is paying any attention to you, Jack.
ReplyDeleteYou are, your post proves you are lying
DeleteJack shot his credibility wad long ago.
ReplyDeleteJack says the Chocolate Emporium went out of business for not selling to moslems..
ReplyDeleteI wonder can he get a quote on that…
Or is he just lying once again?
Here is the quote, "O"rdure.
Delete"The Chocolate Emporium went out of business because they would not sell to Muslims."
- Jack Hawkins
December 14, 2014
ReplyDeleteMozart and Multiculturalism
By Jeff Lipkes
In Mozart’s tragically short lifetime, Die EntfĂĽhring aus dem Serail (The Abduction from the Seraglio) was his most popular opera.* It premiered in Vienna on July 16, 1782, and a week later Mozart wrote his father, “I must say that people are absolutely infatuated with this opera.” By the time of the composer’s death in 1791, there had been forty productions, including a Polish version.
announcement of the opera's premier
The opera tells the story of the attempted rescue by Belmonte, a Spanish aristocrat, of his fiancĂ©e Constanze, her English maid Blonde, and Blonde’s boyfriend Pedrillo. The three have been captured by Muslim pirates and sold as slaves to the Pasha Selim. The Pasha has fallen in love with Constanze, and his coarse and brutal major domo, Osmin, is infatuated with Blonde. The women remain loyal to their lovers, and resist the importunities of the two Muslims, Blonde scolding the overseer by telling him that as a liberated Englishwomen she expects to be wooed with civility and deference.
In the real world, of course, there would be no “courtship” of the two captive women. The ruler and his servant would have had their way with their Christian slaves. In the real world, though, Osmin, in charge of the Pasha’s country house, would likely have been a eunuch, and would not be able to sing his deep baritone arias.
It’s what Mozart did to the libretto that’s of particular interest. Librettos were frequently recycled and the composer’s partner Gottlieb Stephanie simply appropriated an earlier text, Belmont und Konstanze, by Christoph Bretzner. In the original version, when the four Europeans are captured as they attempt to escape to Belmonte’s ship and are hauled before the Pasha, Selim suddenly recognizes Belmonte as his long-lost son. They joyfully embrace.
Mozart was not happy with this trite denouement. The Pasha, the composer decided, rather than being Belmonte’s father, should instead have been the victim of the wicked father, Lostados, the Commandant of Oran, who badly mistreated him. But Selim decides to repay evil with good, and liberates the four captives on the condition that they inform Señor Lostados.
“I despised your father far too much ever to follow in his footsteps,” he tells Belmonte. “Take your freedom, take Constanze, tell your father that you were in my power, that I released you so that you might tell him that it is a far greater pleasure to repay injustices suffered by good deeds than to compensate evil by more evil.” When Osmin protests the loss of Blonde, the Pasha tells him, “Old fellow -- calm yourself. Those whom one cannot win over by kindness one has to release.”
“Never will I forget your benevolence,” Belmonte assures Selim, “For ever shall I sing your praises. In every place, at every time, I shall proclaim you great and noble.”
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Ninety-nine years before the opera’s premiere, almost to the day, the troops of the Caliph of Islam commenced the siege of Vienna. Residents of the capital of the Hapsburg Empire, defended by only 15,000 soldiers, knew what was in store if they surrendered to the 140,000-man Ottoman Army. Perchtoldsdorf, ten miles south of the Imperial capital, had handed over the keys of the city to the Turks after the commander, the Grand Vizier, Kara Mustapha Pasha, had promised that the lives and property of the residents would be respected. Instead, the town was ravaged, the civilians were slaughtered en masse, and the survivors sold into slavery.
The Ottoman campaign had been inspired by appeasement. Wanting to concentrate all his forces along the Rhine against Louis XIV, Emperor Leopold I had twice offered slices of Hungary to the Sultan. This only persuaded the Caliph that his rival was weak, and now would be an excellent time to attack the Holy Roman Empire.
DeleteBut the Sultan declared war in August 1682, and the campaign could only begin the following spring. The Hapsburgs had time to make preparations and conclude alliances. Then, the following summer, camped outside Vienna, Kara Mustapha hoped to starve the city into submission so that he would have a greater share of the spoils. If the capital were taken by force, Muslim tradition dictated that his troops would have the right to rape, murder, and pillage for three days.
The delay was fatal. On September 12, the heavy cavalry of the Polish king, Jan Sobieski, thundered down Mount Kahlenberg into the Ottoman camp, while Imperial forces under Leopold and Charles of Lorraine attacked from the north and northwest. The Turkish besiegers were routed. Before he began his precipitous retreat, Kara Mustapha ordered the execution of nearly 30,000 Christian captives.
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What had transformed the Cruel Turk into the Noble Turk less than a century later?
First, the Ottomans were no longer a threat to Europe. By 1687, most of Serbia, Hungary, and Transylvania were back in European hands. Ottoman losses in Southeastern Europe were officially recognized, after further fighting, by the Treaty of Karlowitz in 1699, and additional territory was ceded in the Treaty of Passarowitz nineteen years later. The Russians, meanwhile, were moving steadily down to the Black Sea and across the Dneiper River. For both European powers, there was a step backward for every two steps forward, but it seemed only a matter of time before the Turks would be driven out of Europe, as the Arabs and Berbers had been forced to abandon Spain.
There were other reasons for the new attitude. At the beginning of the 18th century, the pleasure-loving Ottoman court discovered Paris. Following the reports of envoys sent for the first time to France and Austria, a parade of architects and artists brought the Rococo to Constantinople. The tulip was re-imported from the Netherlands, and became a Turkish obsession. Delighted tourists and ambassadors reported on the extravagant son et lumières, tulip festivals, the coffee houses, bazaars, and fairy-tale palaces, the cultured and charming Sultan, Ahmet III, and the famous Seraglio, entered for the first time by Lady Mary Montagu-Wortley, wife of the ambassador.
European intellectuals during the Enlightenment were also attracted to what they saw as the religious tolerance of the Empire. As long as Muslim overlordship was acknowledged and the jizya paid, Orthodox, Catholics, Protestants, and Jews were free to practice their religion, and were taxed and governed by leaders of their respective millets. Intellectuals also admired Muslim abstinence from alcohol and the fact that justice was dispensed, they believed, quickly and cheaply.
There was a third reason for the shift in sentiments. After a long interval of peace in the middle of the century, the Russians won a crushing victory in 1774. The Treaty of Kuchuk Kainardji awarded them the Black Sea coast, control of the future Romania, the right to trade throughout the Empire, and to become, in effect, the guardian of Christians under Ottoman rule.
The Austrians began to be more worried about the Russians than the Turks. Soon the British, ensconced in India, would be as well. This may have been a third factor.
But a much older Western mental habit was also responsible for Mozart's rosy perspective on Islam: lacerating self-criticism, something no other civilization has indulged in. The form it often took was to attribute all virtue to the enemy and all vices to one’s own people. The habit has a long history. In 5th century B.C. Athens, audiences applauded Euripides’ prize-winning plays Hecuba and Trojan Woman. Both dramatize the cruelty of the Greeks to defenseless women and children in Troy following the capture of the city.
ReplyDeleteThe Romans eventually mastered the art of self-flagellation. The best known examples are from Tacitus’s Agricola, written at the end of the 1st century A.D., in which he puts into the mouth of a British tribal leader the famous condemnation of the Romans, “the robbers of the earth”: “They give the false name ‘empire’ to plunder and slaughter; where they make a desert, they call it peace.” In fact, Britain under Roman rule enjoyed nearly four centuries of peace and a level of prosperity that would not be surpassed until the 18th century. In Germania, Tacitus compared the nobility of the German barbarians to the depravity of the Romans: in Germany “no one laughs at vice; nor is it considered fashionable to seduce and be seduced… Good habits are more effective than good laws.”
The idea of the Noble Savage long predates Rousseau. The Catholic priest BartolomĂ© de Las Casas (1484-1566) defended human sacrifice among the Aztecs: their “religiosity surpassed all other nations, because the most religious nations are those that offer their own children in sacrifice for the good of their people.” Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) famously defended the “natural virtues” of cannibals in his essay “Des cannibales.” “I am not sorry that we should here take notice of the barbarous horror of so cruel an action, but that, seeing so clearly into their faults, we should be so blind to our own,” he wrote.
During the Enlightenment, the first epistolary novel, Persian Letters by Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755), used the device of a Persian aristocrat traveling in France to criticize Parisian manners and morals.
Montaigne didn’t quite let the cannibals off the hook, and Montesquieu introduced in a sub-plot a revolt among the women of Usbek’s harem back home in Persia. But just as the Noble Savage was a fiction -- the real Chief Seattle, to take a recent example, murdered his rivals, owned slaves, and, like all aboriginal Americans, killed animals and destroyed vegetation with reckless abandon -- so the enlightened pashas, amirs, and sultans also represented a romanticization of a much grimmer reality.
Constanze, Blonde, and Pedrillo had a lot of company. Ohio State historian Robert Davis has estimated that between 1530 and 1780 alone, some 1 to 1.25 million European Christians were captured and enslaved by Muslims. These were not just sailors and travelers. North African slavers repeatedly raided European territory. Even Iceland was not immune. During this period and earlier, as many as 3 million Slavs were captured in raids by Crimean Tatars, and tens of thousands of Christian children were seized in the Balkans in the annual “blood tax,” the devĹźirme. Islamic slavers, Arabs in this case, also captured as many as 18 million Africans before the British intervened to end the trade in the 19th century. There are about 10,000 to 20,000 descendants of these slaves in Turkey today. The 400,000 African slaves shipped to North America have 39 million descendants.
The Mediterranean slave trade was sustained by the demand for workers in quarries, on estates, in the galleys of the corsairs, and, of course, in the seraglios of the Selims of the Middle East.
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In addition to sentimentalizing what would come to be called “the Other,” Westerners were also intent on studying foreign cultures closely. In this respect, too, they were unique. The very first Greek historian, Herodotus (484-425 B.C.), included in his Histories an invaluable ethnographic survey of most of the known world.
DeleteThe first book to be printed in England, Dictes [sic] and Sayings of the Philosophers (1477), was an English translation of an Arabic book by Mubashir Ibn Fatik. By 1603, when Richard Knolles’ comprehensive The Generalle Historie of the Turkes was published, 49 other books on the Ottomans had been printed in England, some of them by slaves who had escaped from Dar al-Islam.
Meanwhile, back in the Turkish Empire, the printing press had not even been introduced. The first one appeared only in 1727, imported by a Hungarian convert, and by 1815 a mere 63 titles had been published. (Gutenberg’s Bible dates from 1454 and some 30,000 titles had been printed in Europe by 1500.) Nearly two hundred years before the first press appeared in the Caliphate, the Qur’an, in Arabic, was printed in Venice (1530).
Chairs in Arabic were established in Paris in 1538, Cambridge in 1632, and Oxford in 1636. Edward Gibbon went up to Oxford in 1752 intending to study Arabic because, he wrote, “Oriental learning has always been the pride of Oxford.”
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It’s worth recalling the centuries of scholarship by Western Arabists because, as anyone who follows intellectual fads and fashions knows, these have been sweepingly dismissed by Edward Said in a book still reverently cited ad nauseum, Orientalism.
The book remains one of the core texts of the religion of multiculturalism. The term “orientalism” is bandied about with nearly the frequency, and all of the care and discrimination, of leftist canards like “racist,” “sexist,” “fascist,” or “wingnut.” It’s worth spending a moment on this term of abuse.
Just as he had fabricated his Palestinian background until outed by Justus Weiner, so in his landmark book, the professor of comparative literature at Columbia borrowed his thesis from a more sophisticated and perceptive book on India, La Renaissance orientale by Raymond Schwab, substituting Islamic studies for Indic studies. He then reiterated accusations already hurled by Islamacists against heathens daring to write about the Muslim world. To these he added a large dollop of post-structuralist jargon, and chose to treat alongside actual scholarship the works of novelists and painters who made no claim to be providing realistic accounts of the East.
A few points about “orientalism,” a term described more than twenty years ago by Bernard Lewis as “polluted beyond salvation.”
Delete1. There are no comparable objections from Chinese, Japanese, or Indian scholars to the work of their Western counterparts. They are not Muslims. Indians acknowledge the achievements of British philologists, historians, and archeologists in rescuing much of ancient Indian culture. Gandhi first encountered the Bhagavad Gita, his Bible, in an English translation in London. The great Buddhist emperor Ashoka, whose wheel adorns the flag of India, had been forgotten on the subcontinent until British archeologists began digging.
Many genuine “Orientalist” scholars in the Arab world, it should be said, appreciate the contributions of their American, British, and French colleagues.
2. Knowledge serves power, according to Said, and one of the central ideas of Orientalism is that scholars were partners with Western imperialists, for whom they provided rationales. But unlike in India, there was no prolonged Western occupation of the Middle East; it was not a European colony. The Middle East was governed by the Ottoman Empire until 1920. The Mandate period, when British and French protectorates were established, lasted all of 28 years. British control of Egypt dates only from 1882, and British influence on Persia, which remained independent, gave way to Russian in the 1880s. Said, however, claims that “Britain and France dominated the Eastern Mediterranean from about the end of the seventeenth century on.” Any freshman who’s paid attention in a European History survey knows this is nonsense. Said later claims that the West “dominated” the East for 2,000 years, a more grotesque whopper -- one reason British historian Robert Irwin has called Orientalism “a work of malignant charlatanry.” Irwin adds that it’s “a damning comment on the quality of intellectual life in Britain in recent decades that Said's arguments could ever have been taken seriously.”
3. Orientalism entirely ignores German contributions to “Orientalist” scholarship, which were more important than British or French. Why? Because Germany was not a colonial power in the Middle East. Said also ignores the contributions of Soviet scholars, atheists who did not disguise their contempt for Islam. Why? No enemies on the left, presumably, even though St. Petersburg and then Moscow ruled millions of Muslims.
4. In dismissing the contributions of German scholars, the comp lit professor reveals an astonishing conception of what scholars actually do.
“What German Oriental scholarship did,” Said explains, “was to refine and elaborate techniques whose application was to texts, myths, ideas, and languages almost literally gathered from the Orient by imperial Britain and France.”
The prose is worthy of Michelle Obama.
As Lewis points out, while it may be possible to “gather” a text, though the Germans certainly acquired these as well, how exactly does one “gather” a language? Are French and English scholars to be condemned for learning Arabic?
“Gather” is not an isolated slip. Elsewhere Said repeatedly uses words like “appropriate,” “wrench,” “ransack,” and “rape,” to describe the work of scholars. Just as Western readers were supposedly titillated by semi-pornographic representations of the Orient, so Said’s fans seem to enjoy the sexual innuendos he liberally interjects.
DeleteYou can steal knowledge, apparently, just as the Greeks were supposed to have stolen African knowledge.
This is the kind of thinking that third-rate minds find irresistible.
Second-rate minds are more partial to a slightly more sophisticated epistemology.
Knowledge is relative; everything reflects a power relationship. This is simply a recasting of a venerable Marxist dogma: art, literature, and philosophy represent a “superstructure” faithfully reflecting “the social relations of production.” As Said puts it, “Every European, was a racist, imperialist, and almost totally ethnocentric.”
Unfortunately, as long as intellectual sophistication is equated with self-flagellation, historically illiterate reductivists like Said, with transparent political agendas, will be worshiped by those who are instructed by the New York Times, the New York Review of Books, and, God help them, the New Yorker.
It’s no surprise, then, that everyone who writes about The Abduction from the Seraglio attacks the representation of Osmin, the gruff overseer, as a regrettable stereotype. Osmin is a buffoon as well as a bully: though a devout Muslim, he’s partial to wine, and Pedrillo, as part of the plot to free Constanze and Blonde, persuades him to drink some Cypriot wine to which he’s added a sedative.
And inevitably, to show they are au courant, critics of the opera reference “orientalism,” and applaud “the new appreciation of the East” gained by the Westerners.
The Magic Flute is a fairytale, with all the improbabilities of that genre. The three great operas Mozart wrote with Lorenzo da Ponte depend on disguises that are hardly less improbable. Donna Ana fails to recognize her would-be rapist, who conceals himself with a large hat. Donna Elvira doesn’t recognize Leporello when he puts on his master’s clothes. Count Almaviva fails to identify his wife when she dresses in her servant’s clothes. And Fiordiligi and Dorabella don’t recognize their fiancĂ©s when they wear false moustaches and exotic costumes.
But in representing the Pasha as a compassionate and enlightened European, Mozart more than equaled these improbabilities. What’s remarkable about The Abduction is the composer’s “occidentalism.”
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*Anyone familiar with Mozart’s four great operas, The Magic Flute, Don Giovanni, The Marriage of Figaro, and Così Fan Tutte, is likely to be disappointed when he or she first watches what’s considered number five: The Abduction. While it has some brilliant and demanding -- and long -- arias (inspiring Leopold II’s comment “too many notes, Mozart”), The Abduction has none of the glorious melodies, the sublime ensemble singing, or the pathos and humor of the Big Four. The plot is not as contrived as those of the great operas, at least on the surface, but there’s less dramatic tension and the comedy is more slapstick. There’s a great chasm between The Abduction and the later operas.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/12/mozart_and_multiculturalism.html
Sea Hawks time !
ReplyDeleteWhat is "Occupation"Sun Dec 14, 10:42:00 AM EST
ReplyDeleteThe Zionist DREAM?
The "Zionist Dream" has secured the freedom and safety of millions of immigrants from all over the world. With the possible exception of NYC, Tel Aviv is the most diverse city in the world.
Diversity in an Apartheid State, what comedic relief you provide, allen.
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ReplyDeleteThe late Christopher Hitchens came to reject Edward Said and his brand of "Orientalism". Upon discovering he was part of the despised race, Hitchens' metamorphosis was almost complete at the time of his death.
Were universities staffed by scholars rather than political/industrial hacks and sycophants, thanks to affirmative action, Said would have been a laughingstock. He was, however, consistent: The "big lie" was is stock and trade, tailored to an audience of unexceptional haters.
photos of israeli racial diversity
DeleteIsrael and Occupied Palestinian Territories: Trigger-happy: Israel’s use of excessive force in the West Bank
DeleteIsraeli forces have repeatedly violated their obligations under international human rights law by using excessive force to stifle dissent and freedom of expression, resulting in a pattern of unlawful killings and injuries to civilians. They do so with virtual impunity due to the authorities’ failure to conduct thorough investigations. This report focuses on the use of excessive force in the West Bank since the beginning of 2011. It includes cases of killings and injuries of Palestinian civilians in the context of protests against Israel’s continuing military occupation of the Palestinian territories, illegal Israeli settlements and the fence/wall.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/MDE15/002/2014/en
Why Israel?
DeleteBeing Swedish and non-Jewish, one of the questions I get asked the most frequently is; “Why do you stay in Israel?”
The Invention of the Jewish People
Deleteis a book written by Shlomo Sand, an Israeli professor of history at the University of Tel Aviv.
The author wasn’t probing a belief system but Zionist fabrications of a spurious common lineage for people of the Jewish faith.
Sand argues that the idea of Jews having a common ethnic identity is implausible because, as with Christianity and Islam, Judaism was originally a “proselytising religion”.
The notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is without foundation.
The recent study by John Hopkins geneticist Dr Elhaik confirms...
that the common genome structure of the European Jew gravitated towards an origin in old Khazaria.
“The majority of Jews do not have Middle Eastern genetic component,” he told Israeli newspaper Haaretz.
Founded on a mélange of myths and manufactured historical tales,
Israel has failed the archaeological test of time and is now exposed by DNA science.
Today’s genetics prove unequivocally that in 1948 “the children of the original Jews” were replaced by converts ...
With no roots in the Middle East.
http://www.redressonline.com/2013/02/the-myth-of-the-jewish-people/
Supporters of Israel often complain that the Jewish State is held to a different standard than Hamas, the Palestinian Authority and neighboring Arab countries.
DeleteIt’s a rare occurrence when a policymaker or media insider concedes they might have a point. So when a senior Danish diplomat admitted there is not only a double-standard for Israel but that Israelis should welcome it, his admission inflamed an Israeli columnist who proceeded to pillory the ambassador over Europe’s “obsessive, compulsive need” to pick on the Jewish State and what she called its patronizing attitude to Arabs.
Yep, the Israeli have killed thousands of Palestinian children in the 21st century.
DeleteTo discuss that salient fact is often seen as an "obsessive and compulsive need", which some believe to be patronizing to Arabs.
d.rat is posting as Anonymous above.
Delete'the Israeli'
Dead giveaway.
Take a break, rat.
DeleteWatch a football game or two.
Football, the opiate of the dumb ass class.
DeleteThe Making of the Mishnah and the Talmud
DeleteThe third generation spanned the Bar Kokhba period and its aftermath, functioning from about
130–160 c.e.
The fourth generation covered the period of about 160–200 c.e. This is the generation of Rabbi
Judah the Prince, the majestic patriarch who edited the Mishnah and whose court was at Beit
Shearim in the Galilee.
During the fluctuations of Jewish fortunes in the Land of Israel and Babylonia,
a loosely organized group of scholars, known collectively as the amoraim (“explainers” of the
Mishnah) continued to expound and develop the rabbinic tradition. Between the years c. 200–425 in
the Land of Israel and c. 200–500 in Babylonia...
Other prominent amoraim of the Land of Israel included Ă“anina bar Ă“ama at Sepphoris, Oshaya
Rabbah at Caesarea, and Joshua ben Levi at Lydda (c. 220–260). An important contemporary of
Yoòanan and Resh Lakish (both of whom flourished c. 250–290) was Eliezer bar Pedat of Tiberias.
Ammi bar Nathan and Assi at Tiberias, Abbahu at Caesarea (or according to some Katsrin in the
Golan) followed them (c. 290–320). Rabbi Yonah and Rabbi Yose then led the Tiberias academy (c.
320–350). The amoraic chain of tradition in the Land of Israel came to an end not long afterwards,
following the careers of Mana and Yose bar Avin (c. 350–375). Scholars in Caesarea, in the middle
of the fourth century, brought to completion the initial tractates of Nezikin, Bava Kamma, Bava
Metzia, and Bava Batra. These tractates have a di√erent literary and linguistic form from those
of the rest of the Jerusalem Talmud, and feature a somewhat di√erent group of scholars...
The Palestinian Talmud
Talmudh Yerushalmi ("Jerusalem Talmud"), is also old, but not accurate. The Palestinian Talmud gives the discussions of the Palestinian Amoraim, teaching from the 3rd century AD until the beginning of the 5th, especially in the schools or academies of Tiberias, Caesarea and Sepphoris.
Watch a whole season, Jack.
DeleteYou are a bore.
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Half Time
Interesting 1st half, for sure.
DeleteSome excellent football playing.
Football, the opiate of the dumb ass class.
DeleteEnjoy!
DeleteI will.
DeleteWhat wonderful athletes !!
By the way, Quirk, before I hit the game again, the rectal re-hydration was for folks on hunger strikes.
ReplyDeleteAccording to what I just heard on Fox.
DeleteSo their assholes don't cement up, I presume.
Later.....
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DeleteEvery time you open your mouth it only gets worse.
For decades, the international community, including the International Red Cross, the World Medical Association and the United Nations, have recognized the right of prisoners of sound mind to go on a hunger strike. Force-feeding has been labeled a violation on the ban of cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment. The World Medical Association holds that it is unethical for a doctor to participate in force-feeding. Put simply, force-feeding violates international law.
Whatever triggered the hunger strike at Guantánamo — the detainees say that the military had begun searching their Korans and instituted a series of harsh new measures, which the military denies — the underlying issue is that the detainees are in despair of ever getting out. Many of them, including 56 men from Yemen, have been cleared to leave the prison by a committee of top national security officials [and the courts]. But thanks to a combination of Congressional actions taken during the past few years, and the timidity of President Obama, they remain in Guantánamo with no end in sight. The hunger strike has been their way of reminding the world of their continued imprisonment, and it has worked brilliantly. One wonders whether President Obama would have even mentioned Guantánamo in his big national security speech last week if not for the hunger strikers.
The military claims that it is force-feeding the detainees in order to keep them safe and alive. According to The Miami Herald, about one-third of the detainees on strike — at least 35 men, though possibly more — are being force-fed. A handful are in the hospital.
But not long ago, Al Jazeera got ahold of a 30-page document that detailed the standard operating procedures used by the military to force-feed a detainee. The document makes for gruesome reading: the detainee shackled to a special chair (which looks like the electric chair); the head restraints if he resists; the tube pushed painfully down his nose; the half-hour or so of ingestion of nutritional supplements; the transfer of the detainee to a “dry cell,” where, if he vomits, he is strapped back into the chair until the food is digested.
Detainees are also apparently given an anti-nausea drug called Reglan, which has a horrible potential side effect if given for more than three months: a disease called tardive dyskinesia, which causes twitching and other uncontrollable movements. “This drug is very scary,” said Cori Crider, the legal director of Reprieve, a London-based group that represents more than a dozen detainees. “My fear is that it is being administered without their consent,” she added. Although the military refuses to discuss the use of Reglan — or any aspect of force-feeding — that’s a pretty safe bet...
http://www.tassc.org/node/53
Do you really think they are force feeding these guys for humanitarian reasons or because of the press they would be getting when the guys start dropping off?
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DeleteAnd what is described above is merely what is being done at Gitmo. It is a pale imitation of what the CIA was doing. There are videos showing the procedure that's being used at Gitmo for anyone with the stomach for it. I doubt if you will find any of the CIA's procedures.
The forced feedings of at least five detainees held at CIA black sites after 9/11 were among the most graphic new revelations in a declassified Senate report on the interrogation program released this week.
The procedures, described as “rectal hydration” and “rectal feeding,” have been criticized by the White House as “torture” and subsequently banned.
Yet,
The Senate report also revealed that CIA operatives considered “rectal feeding” a “means of behavior control” and a way to “exert total control over the detainee.”
The CIA’s formal response to the report does not address rectal feeding, although the agency has defended rectal rehydration as a “well acknowledged medical technique.”
Former Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday that rectal rehydration “was not one of the authorized or approved techniques.”
Yet, Obumble, continues to excuse the practice.
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It's not forced feeding, lard ass.
DeleteIt's rectal re-hydration.
I'd do the same to you to prevent your precious ass hole from cementing up.......
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And you would thank me one fine day.
DeleteSeriously Quirk, you are starting to sound rat-like.
It is really unnerving.
China offers military help to Iraq to defeat ISIS
ReplyDeleteIraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim Jafari says that his Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, has made an offer to help Iraq fight Islamic State militants. Beijing has volunteered to assist with airstrikes, though it will not join the US-led coalition against ISIS.
“[Mr Wang] said, our policy does not allow us to get involved in the international coalition. I welcomed this initiative. I told him…we are ready to deal with the coalition and also co-operate with other countries outside this coalition,”
DeleteJafari told the Financial Times. China’s Defense Ministry declined to comment. However, Hong Lei – a spokesman for the Foreign Ministry – did say that Wang had told Jafari during their meeting that China backed Iraq’s efforts to strengthen its ability to fight terror via intelligence exchange and personnel training.
He refused to comment on whether China was supplying air support or missiles to Iraq.
“China has been fighting terrorism and has been providing support and assistance to Iraq, including the Kurdish region, in our own way, and will continue to do so within the best of our capabilities,”
Seattle 17
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Seattle is now 10 and 4, San Fran 7 and 7.
The biggest issue left unresolved for Paris is the burden for cutting greenhouse gas emissions. The draft text retains language of “common but differentiated responsibilities” that has over the years given developing countries a pass on cutting emissions.
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And the text adopted on Sunday no longer makes it mandatory for countries to provide detailed information about their prospect reductions targets.
Campaigners said that would make it increasingly difficult to be sure the deal would manage to keep warming within the 2 degree threshold.
Put a cork up rat's ass, and in his mouth, that would stop half the gas emissions.
DeleteRobert "Draft Dodger" Peterson has a one track mind ...
DeleteTo paraphrase John Locke ...
What worries him, masters him
Just trying to save the planet, gas passer.
DeleteEveryone has his duty to the planet.
News from down your way, Sam -
ReplyDeleteTerrorism Fears
Hostages Taken in Sydney Cafe as Islamic Flag Reportedly Flown
Dec 14, 2014 3:34 PM PST
Several hostages are reportedly being held in the Lindt Cafe.
Michael Heath
(Bloomberg) -- A group of people has been taken hostage in a cafe in Sydney’s Martin Place and forced to hold a black flag with Arabic writing against the window, Australian television networks reported.
About half a dozen armed officers wearing helmets and body armor were stationed on the corner of Elizabeth Street and Martin Place, about 20 meters from the Lindt cafe entrance. Pedestrians were blocked from the CBD square, which houses offices for Macquarie Group, the central bank and Westpac Banking Corp.
Channel Seven showed images of people inside the cafe with their arms up pressed against the window and holding a black flag with white lettering. New South Wales police confirmed an operation was underway in Martin Place, and declined to provide further details. Sky News said the Sydney Opera House was evacuated after a suspicious package was found.
“This looks like it’s intended to get as much publicity as possible.”
Clive Williams, a former Australian military intelligence officer
Australia raised its terrorism alert to the highest level in a decade in September, citing the threat posed by supporters of Islamic State, and days later police carried out their largest anti-terrorism raid, foiling an alleged beheading plot. The nation’s Senate passed a bill in October aimed at stopping citizens fighting for extremists in Iraq and Syria.
A phone message left out of hours at the Zurich-based media office for Chocoladefabriken Lindt & Sprungli AG wasn’t immediately returned.
Sydney Airspace
Airspace over central Sydney wasn’t closed and the airport is operating as normal, a spokeswoman for Air Services Australia said by telephone.
An 18-year-old man was shot and killed on Sept. 23 after wounding two counter-terrorism officers with a knife. He stabbed the officers in an unprovoked attack outside a police station, where he was due to be interviewed by police after after waving an Islamic State flag inside a shopping center.
The number of Australians identifying themselves as Muslim rose from 281,600 in 2001 to 476,300 by 2011 -- about 2.2 percent of the population.
“This looks like it’s intended to get as much publicity as possible,” said Clive Williams, a former Australian military intelligence office and now a visiting professor at the Australian National University’s College of Law. “The problem is we’ve ended up with a lot of frustrated people in Australia.”
To contact the reporter on this story: Michael Heath in Sydney at mheath1@bloomberg.net
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2014-12-14/hostages-taken-in-sydney-cafe-as-islamic-flag-reportedly-flown
DeleteDoubt it will end well.
Yeah, it is a "Chocolate Shop" ...
DeletePeddling the parve?
Jack "Professional Asshole, War Criminal and Stalker" Hawkins.........."Stalker" Hawkins.....
DeleteJust another totally dumb comment by Jack.
DeleteThe count of totally dumb comments by Jack is in the tens of thousands.
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ReplyDeleteWATCH LIVE: Buildings evacuated in Sydney cafe siege
Siege situation in Martin Place
7News Sydney
December 15, 2014, 10:34 am
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A siege situation is underway in Sydney's Martin Place as a gunman holds up a Lindt Chocolate Cafe.
Police have confirmed an operation is underway after officers were called to the shop around 9:45am on Monday.
Siege situation in Martin Place
It's believed at least 13 hostages are being held in the cafe, where a black flag with white Arabic writing was reportedly brandished across the window.
WATCH LIVE: Buildings evacuated in Sydney cafe siege
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/25772503/siege-situation-in-martin-place/
Fox News to have a report soon....
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Saint Peter's Blog, 12/02/14
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OK, Sherman, let's fire up the Wayback Machine and revisit August 29th, 2014, shall we?
TALLAHASSEE — Last year, legislators allocated $900,000 to help Floridians find affordable health care through a new state-backed website.
At the same time, they refused to expand Medicaid or work with the federal government to offer subsidized insurance plans.
Six months after the launch of the state's effort, called Florida Health Choices (floridahealthchoices.net), just 30 people have signed up. Another seven plans were canceled either because consumers changed their minds or didn't pay for services.
As I noted at the time:
After two months of taking ravenous glee at Healthcare.Gov's technical woes and low inital enrollment numbers last fall, followed by 5 month months of basically refusing to believe it when the numbers reached 5.4 million (plus another 2.6 million on the state ACA exchanges), and another 4 months since then of muttering into their beer about "but...but how many HAVE PAID???" even after the insurance companies themselves confirmed that a good 85-90% of enrollees were doing so...
...after all of that, it turns out that the Republicans in Florida tried launching their own "health insurance marketplace" on the taxpayers' dime...and it was so incredibly "successful" that six months later, only 37 people even tried to purchase their offerings...and 7 of those (19%) skipped out without paying.
Yup, even the payment rate at the GOP-run exchange is worse than that of the Affordable Care Act.
As a bonus, as I also noted, $900K / 30 customers. That's $30,000 per enrollee...or up to 46x as much as the "wasteful, overpriced" HealthCare.Gov's $647 per person.
DeleteBut wait, there's more: This "Florida Health Choices" program, which was, hilariously enough, spearheaded by Republican Senator Marco Rubio in 2008, doesn't even sell actual healthcare policies:
But Health Choices doesn't sell comprehensive health insurance to protect consumers from big-ticket costs such as hospitalization. Instead, it has limited benefit options and discount plans for items like dental visits, prescription drugs and eyeglasses.
...Of the 30 policies currently active, 14 are prescription drug discount cards and another 12 are a dental and vision discount plan. The rest are plans offering discounted doctor visits and online support.
Prescription drug discount plans are controversial because they sometimes charge fees for the same savings consumers could get without them. A 2012 Consumer Reports study said discount plans made it difficult to comparison shop and many national retail chains offer their own steep discounts on common generic drugs.
So, it's a) basically a scam; b) an utter failure; and c) cost the taxpayers of Florida up to 46x as much per enrollee as HealthCare.Gov. Sounds like par for the course for the GOP.
Still, why am I bringing this up tonight?
Because their failure up until now appears to have forced "Florida Health Choices" hand into making a hilariously ironic policy change:
A mandate-free health care “marketplace” established by former House Speaker Marco Rubio will start selling plans that are compliant with the federal health care law.
But a move to have the marketplace interface with the federal health insurance exchange so low income Floridians can qualify for tax credits hasn’t come to fruition, correspondence from Florida Health Choices Chief Executive Officer Rose Naff shows.
In a December 1 letter to U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia M. Burwell Florida Health Choices Chief Executive Officer Rose M. Naff said the program will begin offering products that are compliant with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act–commonly called Obamacare–in “a few short weeks.”
She said the organization –created in statute as a mandate free health care marketplace by Rubio — did not offer the product on November 15 in deference to the federal government and to “minimize confusion among your target audience.”
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!
I'm sure Florida Republicans will be very interested in Senator Rubio explaining why his brainchild is now reduced to begging the HHS Dept. to allow them to sell Obamacare policies...especially if he throws his hat in the POTUS ring for 2016...
In all seriousness, though, assuming they do manage to get approval/authorization for this, it seems to me that "Florida Health Choices" could conceivably end up becoming...an ACA-compliant State Based Healthcare Exchange???
Calling Nicholas Bagley...
Rubio wants to sell Obamacare?
Everybody is old and dying in Florida, Rufus, you know that.
DeletePeople from the Northeast go there to die, like elephants going home, or salmon to their birth pond for the final spawn.
Some of them are even looking to the death panels as a gift from heaven....
Breaking: Hostage situation in Sydney — with Arabic flag on display
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A hostage situation has unfolded over the last hour or so in Sydney, Australia, but it may be a message to the world. An unknown number of perpetrators seized control of a cafe and have a dozen or more hostages, some of which have been apparently forced to display a black flag with Arabic lettering:
Hostages were being held inside a central Sydney cafe where a black flag with white Arabic writing could be seen in the window, local television showed on Monday, raising fears of an attack linked to Islamic militants.
Australia, which is backing the United States and its escalating action against Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, is on high alert for attacks by radicalized Muslims or by home-grown fighters returning from fighting in the Middle East. …
Live television footage showed patrons inside a cafe standing with their hands pressed against the windows. A black and white flag similar to those used by Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria was also visible.
From initial reports, the hostage situation has unfolded across the street from a television station — which can’t exactly be an accident. The area of Sydney is described as the financial center of the city, which is probably also no accident. However, the flag itself isn’t one commonly used by ISIS, as Buzzfeed points out. That doesn’t mean it’s not directly connected to ISIS, of course, but it may also be a home-grown effort of some sort.
Sydney’s Channel 7, the station across the street from the cafe, has live video coverage of the hostage situation:
We’ll keep an eye on the story for further developments.
Update: The Guardian has more on the flag:
My colleague Michael Safi reports the flag in the cafe window appears to bear the Shahada: “There is no god but the God, Muhammad is the messenger of God.” It is not the Islamic State flag.
He reports:
The flag that hostages appear to have been forced to hold up in the window of the Lindt Cafe in Martin Place is not the Islamic State flag – but that isn’t to say that Isis is not involved in today’s incident.
It could very well be a home-grown group that affiliates itself with ISIS or just shares its terrorist goals. It’s doubtful that ISIS will be unhappy to hear about this, though.
Update: The Daily Mail says it’s a Jabhat al-Nusra flag, which would make this an al-Qaeda operation, but that’s not been confirmed yet either.
Update: (Jazz) Cable networks slowly cutting away from this story, but the video feeds available quote a woman saying that a person with a blue bag, possibly containing a gun, entered the Lindt Cafe shortly before the events unfolded. Still looking for confirmation, but one report on NBC suggests it’s possible that they are dealing with a single perpetrator.
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