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Thursday, February 13, 2014

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The  inconvenient and made up evidence of  the cultural hijacking of the Americas is there to see if you care to look




Ancient baby DNA reveals origins of Native Americans
February 12, 2014 9:15PM ET
Genome sequencing on DNA of baby buried 12,000 years ago shows he is an ancestor of modern indigenous peoples


The DNA of a baby boy who was buried in Montana 12,600 years ago has been recovered, and it provides new indications of the ancient roots of today's American Indians and other native peoples of the Americas.
It's the oldest genome ever recovered from the New World. Artifacts found with the body show the boy was part of the Clovis culture, which existed in North America from about 13,000 years ago to about 12,600 years ago and is named for an archaeological site near Clovis, N.M.
The boy's genome showed his people were direct ancestors of many of today's native peoples in the Americas, researchers said. He was more closely related to those in Central and South America than to those in Canada. The reason for that difference isn't clear, scientists said.
The researchers said they had no Native American DNA from the United States available for comparison, but they assume the results would be similar, with some Native Americans being direct descendants and others also closely related.
The DNA also indicates the boy's ancestors came from Asia, supporting the standard idea of ancient migration to the Americas by way of a land bridge that disappeared long ago.
Genome sequencing in November 2013 on the arm bone of a three-year-old Siberian boy known as the "Mal'ta Boy" — the world's oldest known genome — showed that Native Americans share up to 35 percent of their DNA with people in Eurasia, the Middle East and Europe.
Native Americans still have genetic connections to East Asia, but the extent of their DNA shared with Eurasians was previously unknown and thought by many scientists to be the result of intermingling with Europeans after their colonization of the Americas.
The burial site, northeast of Livingston, Mont., is the only burial known from the Clovis culture. The boy was between 1 year and 18 months old when he died of an unknown cause.
He was buried with 125 artifacts, including spear points and elk antler tools. Some were evidently ritual objects or heirlooms. The artifacts and the skeleton were covered with powdered red ochre, a natural pigment, indicating a burial ceremony.
The skeleton was discovered in 1968 next to a rock cliff, but it's only in recent years that scientists have been able to recover and analyze complete genomes from such ancient samples.
The DNA analysis was reported online Wednesday in the journal Nature by scientists Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, Michael Waters of Texas A&M University and Shane Doyle of Montana State University in Bozeman.
Doyle, a member of the Crow tribe, said the indication of such ancient roots for American Indians fits with what many tribal people already believed. He said plans are underway to rebury the boy's remains at the site after the winter.
Willerslev, an expert in deciphering ancient DNA, called for scientists to work closely with native peoples on such research. He noted there were Native American groups who said their oral history showed that they were descendants of the first people in the Americas.
"Well, they turned out to be right," Willerslev said.
The results are "going to raise a whole host of new ideas and hypotheses" about the early colonization of the Americas, said Dennis O'Rourke, an ancient DNA expert at the University of Utah who wasn't involved in the work.

Al Jazeera and The Associated Press

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Brokers of Deceit: Massive US Aid to Israel has Enabled a Colonial Project
(By Chase Madar via Tomdispatch)

We Americans have funny notions about foreign aid. Recent polls show that, on average, we believe 28% of the federal budget is eaten up by it, and that, in a time of austerity, this gigantic bite of the budget should be cut back to 10%. In actual fact, barely 1% of the federal budget goes to foreign aid of any kind.
In this case, however, truth is at least as strange as fiction. Consider that the top recipient of U.S. foreign aid over the past three decades isn’t some impoverished land filled with starving kids, but a wealthy nation with a per-head gross domestic product on par with the European Union average, and higher than that of Italy, Spain, or South Korea.
Consider also that this top recipient of such aid — nearly all of it military since 2008 — has been busily engaged in what looks like a nineteenth-century-style colonization project. In the late 1940s, our beneficiary expelled some 700,000 indigenous people from the land it was claiming.  In 1967, our client seized some contiguous pieces of real estate and ever since has been colonizing these territories with nearly 650,000 of its own people. It has divided the conquered lands with myriad checkpoints and roads accessible only to the colonizers and is building a 440-mile wall around (and cutting into) the conquered territory, creating a geography of control that violates international law.
“Ethnic cleansing” is a harsh term, but apt for a situation in which people are driven out of their homes and lands because they are not of the right tribe. Though many will balk at leveling this charge against Israel — for that country is, of course, the top recipient of American aid and especially military largesse — who would hesitate to use the term if, in a mirror-image world, all of this were being inflicted on Israeli Jews?
Military Aid to Israel
Arming and bankrolling a wealthy nation acting in this way may, on its face, seem like terrible policy. Yet American aid has been flowing to Israel in ever greater quantities. Over the past 60 years, in fact, Israel has absorbed close to a quarter-trillion dollars in such aid. Last year alone, Washington sent some $3.1 billion in military aid, supplemented by allocations for collaborative military research and joint training exercises.
Overall, the United States covers nearly one quarter of Israel’s defense budget — from tear gas canisters to F-16 fighter jets. In their 2008-2009 assault on Gaza, the Israeli Defense Forces made use of M-92 and M-84 “dumb bombs,” Paveway II and JDAM guided “smart bombs,” AH-64 Apache attack helicopters equipped with AGM-114 Hellfire guided missiles, M141 “bunker defeat” munitions, and special weapons like M825A1 155mm white phosphorous munitions — all supplied as American foreign aid. (Uniquely among Washington’s aid recipients, Israel is also permitted to spend 25% of the military funding from Washington on weapons made by its own weapons industry.)
Why is Washington doing this? The most common answer is the simplest: Israel is Washington’s “ally.” But the United States has dozens of allies around the world, none of which are subsidized in anything like this fashion by American taxpayer dollars. As there is no formal treaty alliance between the two nations and given the lopsided nature of the costs and benefits of this relationship, a far more accurate term for Israel’s tie to Washington might be “client state.” 
And not a particularly loyal client either. If massive military aid is supposed to give Washington leverage over Israel (as it normally does in client-state relationships), it is difficult to detect. In case you hadn’t noticed, rare is the American diplomatic visit to Israel that is not greeted with an in-your-face announcement of intensified colonization of Palestinian territory, euphemistically called “settlement expansion.” 
Washington also provides aid to Palestine totaling, on average, $875 million annually in Obama’s first term (more than double what George W.  Bush gave in his second term). That’s a little more than a quarter of what Israel gets.  Much of it goes to projects of dubious net value like the development of irrigation networks at a moment when the Israelis are destroying Palestinian cisterns and wells elsewhere in the West Bank. Another significant part of that funding goes toward training the Palestinian security forces. Known as “Dayton forces” (after the American general, Keith Dayton, who led their training from 2005 to 2010), these troops have a grim human rights record that includes acts of torture, as Dayton himself has admitted. One former Dayton deputy, an American colonel, described these security forces to al-Jazeera as an outsourced “third Israeli security arm.” According to Josh Ruebner, national advocacy director for the U.S. Campaign to End the Occupation and author of Shattered Hopes: Obama’s Failure to Broker Israeli-Palestinian Peace, American aid to Palestine serves mainly to entrench the Israeli occupation.
A Dishonest Broker
Nothing is equal when it comes to Israelis and Palestinians in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip — and the numbers say it all. To offer just one example, the death toll from Operation Cast Lead, Israel’s 2008-2009 assault on the Gaza Strip, was 1,385 Palestinians (the majority of them civilians) and 13 Israelis, three of them civilians.
And yet mainstream opinion in the U.S. insists on seeing the two parties as essentially equal. Harold Koh, former dean of the Yale Law School and until recently the top lawyer at the State Department, has been typical in comparing Washington’s role to “adult supervision” of “a playground populated by warring switchblade gangs.” It was a particularly odd choice of metaphors, given that one side is equipped with small arms and rockets of varying sophistication, the other with nuclear weapons and a state-of-the-art modern military subsidized by the world’s only superpower.
Washington’s active role in all of this is not lost on anyone on the world stage — except Americans, who have declared themselves to be the even-handed arbiters of a conflict involving endless failed efforts at brokering a “peace process.” Globally, fewer and fewer observers believe in this fiction of Washington as a benevolent bystander rather than a participant heavily implicated in a humanitarian crisis. In 2012, the widely respected International Crisis Group described the “peace process” as “a collective addiction that serves all manner of needs, reaching an agreement no longer being the main one.”
The contradiction between military and diplomatic support for one party in the conflict and the pretense of neutrality cannot be explained away. “Looked at objectively, it can be argued that American diplomatic efforts in the Middle East have, if anything, made achieving peace between Palestinians and Israelis more difficult,” writes Rashid Khalidi, a historian at Columbia University, and author of Brokers of Deceit: How the U.S. Has Undermined Peace in the Middle East.
Evasive Silence
American policy elites are unable or unwilling to talk about Washington’s destructive role in this situation. There is plenty of discussion about a one-state versus a two-state solution, constant disapproval of Palestinian violence, occasional mild criticism (“not helpful”) of the Israeli settlements, and lately, a lively debate about the global boycott, divestment, and sanction movement (BDS) led by Palestinian civil society to pressure Israel into a “just and lasting” peace. But when it comes to what Americans are most responsible for — all that lavish military aid and diplomatic cover for one side only — what you get is either euphemism or an evasive silence. 
In general, the American media tends to treat our arming of Israel as part of the natural order of the universe, as beyond question as the force of gravity. Even the “quality” media shies away from any discussion of Washington’s real role in fueling the Israel-Palestine conflict. Last month, for instance, the New York Times ran an article about a prospective “post-American” Middle East without any mention of Washington’s aid to Israel, or for that matter to Egypt, or the Fifth Fleet parked in Bahrain.
You might think that the progressive hosts of MSNBC’s news programs would be all over the story of what American taxpayers are subsidizing, but the topic barely flickers across the chat shows of Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, and others. Given this across-the-board selective reticence, American coverage of Israel and Palestine, and particularly of American military aid to Israel, resembles the Agatha Christie novel in which the first-person narrator, observing and commenting on the action in calm semi-detachment, turns out to be the murderer.
Strategic Self-Interest and Unconditional Military Aid
On the activist front, American military patronage of Israel is not much discussed either, in large part because the aid package is so deeply entrenched that no attempt to cut it back could succeed in the near future. Hence, the global BDS campaign has focused on smaller, more achievable targets, though as Yousef Munayyer, executive director of the Jerusalem Fund, an advocacy group, told me, the BDS movement does envision an end to Washington’s military transfers in the long term. This makes tactical sense, and both the Jerusalem Fund and the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation are engaged in ongoing campaigns to inform the public about American military aid to Israel.
Less understandable are the lobbying groups that advertise themselves as “pro-peace,” champions of “dialogue” and “conversation,” but share the same bottom line on military aid for Israel as their overtly hawkish counterparts. For instance, J Street (“pro-Israel and pro-peace”), a Washington-based nonprofit which bills itself as a moderate alternative to the powerhouse lobbying outfit, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), supports both “robust” military aid and any supplemental disbursements on offer from Washington to the Israeli Defense Forces.  Americans for Peace Now similarly takes the position that Washington should provide “robust assistance” to ensure Israel’s “qualitative military edge.” At the risk of sounding literal-minded, any group plumping for enormous military aid packages to a country acting as Israel has is emphatically not “pro-peace.” It’s almost as if the Central America solidarity groups from the 1980s had demanded peace, while lobbying Washington to keep funding the Contras and the Salvadoran military.
Outside the various factions of the Israel lobby, the landscape is just as flat. The Center for American Progress, a Washington think tank close to the Democratic Party, regularly issues pious statements about new hopes for the “peace process” — with never a mention of how our unconditional flow of advanced weaponry might be a disincentive to any just resolution of the situation.
There is, by the way, a similar dynamic at work when it comes to Washington’s second biggest recipient of foreign aid, Egypt. Washington’s expenditure of more than $60 billion over the past 30 years ensured both peace with Israel and Cold War loyalty, while propping up an authoritarian government with a ghastly human rights record. As the post-Mubarak military restores its grip on Egypt, official Washington is currently at work finding ways to keep the military aid flowing despite a congressional ban on arming regimes that overthrow elected governments. There is, however, at least some mainstream public debate in the U.S. about ending aid to the Egyptian generals who have violently reclaimed power. Investigative journalism nonprofit ProPublica has even drafted a handy “explainer” about U.S. military aid to Egypt — though they have not tried to explain aid to Israel.
Silence about U.S.-Israel relations is, to a large degree, hardwired into Beltway culture. As George Perkovich, director of the nuclear policy program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace told the Washington Post, “It’s like all things having to do with Israel and the United States. If you want to get ahead, you don’t talk about it; you don’t criticize Israel, you protect Israel.”
This is regrettable, as Washington’s politically invisible military aid to Israel is not just an impediment to lasting peace, but also a strategic and security liability. As General David Petraeus, then head of U.S. Central Command, testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee in 2010, the failure to reach a lasting resolution to the conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians makes Washington’s other foreign policy objectives in the region more difficult to achieve. It also, he pointed out, foments anti-American hatred and fuels al-Qaeda and other violent groups.  Petraeus’s successor at CENTCOM, General James Mattis, echoed this list of liabilities in a public dialogue with Wolf Blitzer last July:
“I paid a military security price every day as a commander of CENTCOM because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel, and that [alienates] all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us because they can’t come out publicly in support of people who don’t show respect for the Arab Palestinians.”
Don’t believe the generals? Ask a terrorist. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, mastermind of the 9/11 attacks now imprisoned at Guantanamo, told interrogators that he was motivated to attack the United States in large part because of Washington’s leading role in assisting Israel’s repeated invasions of Lebanon and the ongoing dispossession of Palestinians.
The Israel lobby wheels out a battery of arguments in favor of arming and funding Israel, including the assertion that a step back from such aid for Israel would signify a “retreat” into “isolationism.” But would the United States, a global hegemon busily engaged in nearly every aspect world affairs, be “isolated” if it ceased giving lavish military aid to Israel? Was the United States “isolated” before 1967 when it expanded that aid in a major way? These questions answer themselves.
Sometimes the mere act of pointing out the degree of U.S. aid to Israel provokes accusations of having a special antipathy for Israel. This may work as emotional blackmail, but if someone proposed that Washington start shipping Armenia $3.1 billion worth of armaments annually so that it could begin the conquest of its ancestral province of Nagorno-Karabakh in neighboring Azerbaijan, the plan would be considered ludicrous — and not because of a visceral dislike for Armenians. Yet somehow the assumption that Washington is required to generously arm the Israeli military has become deeply institutionalized in this country.
Fake Peace Process, Real War Process
Today, Secretary of State John Kerry is leading a push for a renewed round of the interminable American-led peace process in the region that has been underway since the mid-1970s.  It’s hardly a bold prediction to suggest that this round, too, will fail. The Israeli minister of defense, Moshe Ya’alon, has already publicly mocked Kerry in his quest for peace as “obsessive and messianic” and added that the newly proposed framework for this round of negotiations is “not worth the paper it’s printed on.” Other Israeli high officials blasted Kerry for his mere mention of the potential negative consequences to Israel of a global boycott if peace is not achieved.
But why shouldn’t Ya’alon and other Israeli officials tee off on the hapless Kerry? After all, the defense minister knows that Washington will wield no stick and that bushels of carrots are in the offing, whether Israel rolls back or redoubles its land seizures and colonization efforts. President Obama has boasted that the U.S. has never given so much military aid to Israel as under his presidency. On January 29th, the House Foreign Affairs Committee voted unanimously to upgrade Israel’s status to “major strategic partner.” With Congress and the president guaranteeing that unprecedented levels of military aid will continue to flow, Israel has no real incentive to change its behavior.
Usually such diplomatic impasses are blamed on the Palestinians, but given how little is left to squeeze out of them, doing so this time will test the creativity of official Washington. Whatever happens, in the post-mortems to come there will be no discussion in Washington about the role its own policies played in undermining a just and lasting agreement.
How much longer will this silence last? The arming and bankrolling of a wealthy nation committing ethnic cleansing has something to offend conservatives, progressives, and just about every other political grouping in America. After all, how often in foreign policy does strategic self-interest align so neatly with human rights and common decency?
Intelligent people can and do disagree about a one-state versus a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. People of goodwill disagree about the global BDS campaign. But it is hard to imagine what kind of progress can ever be made toward a just and lasting settlement between Israel and Palestine until Washington quits arming one side to the teeth.
“If it weren’t for U.S. support for Israel, this conflict would have been resolved a long time ago,” says Josh Ruebner.  Will we Americans ever acknowledge our government’s active role in destroying the chances for a just and lasting peace between Palestine and Israel?
Chase Madar (@ChMadar) is a lawyer in New York, a TomDispatch regular, and the author of The Passion of [Chelsea] Manning: The Story behind the Wikileaks Whistleblower (Verso).
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Copyright 2014 Chase Madar

Mirrored from Tomdispatch.com

198 comments:

  1. Religious imperialism has been defined to encompass a “policy of extending a nation’s authority by economic and political means over other nations.”

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    1. Might I suggest if you are so concerned about colonial projects? Dismantle America 1st.

      LOL

      Israel, sits on 1/900th of the middle east.

      The fact is that the colonial arabs from arabia occupy 899/900th of the middle east.

      More Jews were driven from there homes in 1948 by the arabs. Your novel article says 700,000 arabs were removed from Israel in 1948-1967 and yet? 20% of Israel is Arab. In fact MORE arabs live in the shrunken borders of Israel today than existed from the river to the sea in 1948.

      Fact the facts Deuce, the arab world is self destructing! From yemen, syria to jordan and lebanon the problem aint israel, it's Islam.

      What's RIGHT with the middle east is Israel.

      But you have never been have you?

      You claim (falsely) that Israel is a colony. You just can't bring yourself to say that the Jewish People of Israel have a right to liberate their nation and their own self determination.

      The arab world has 21 nations already and now want another, "palestine". Do you want another one in Gaza?

      Your hatred for Israel blinds you to the fact that the ONLY hope for the arab world is Israel.


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    2. You just can’t bring yourself to say that the Jewish People of Israel have a right to liberate their nation and their own self determination.

      They don’t have your claimed right.

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    3. So the Jews of Israel do not have a right to self determination?

      Thus says a man who squats on Indian lands?

      LOL

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    4. Face it Deuce you are full of it...

      But that's ok you are entitled to your opinion. You and the Palestinians who seek Israel's end are losing.

      Have you not noticed the rounding success of the arab world INCLUDING your fabled fake people called "Palestinians"?

      LOL

      Look to Syria for the future of your newly adopted people...

      LOL

      Assad's treatment of the Palestinians is how the rest of the Arab world views them...

      The ONLY hope for the fake nationalistic movement called "palestine"? Is Israel.

      LOL

      Go take a trip to Israel and see the arabs living free....

      It's would blow your mind.. what's left of it...

      lol

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    5. it's actually humorous deuce, you can't bring yourself to say that the Jewish state has a right to BE.

      Period.

      LOL

      You are on the wrong side of history.

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    6. Once again the Israel issue has been raised...

      I would make the following prediction. Time is running short for a solution to the Palestinian issue.

      IF the arab/moslem world doesn't get with it soon (and I doubt they will) they will be left behind from the rest of the world.

      The Issue is not Palestinian statehood, but rather the ability for the the greater arab world (and islamic world) to live alongside others that do not share their islamic views.

      The entire islamic world is on fire. And the issue aint Israel.

      But the fire is burning and it's spreading.

      ALL, I repeat ALL islamic communities across the globe have a fight on their hands from within...

      and it will not be pretty....

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  2. The first by al jazeera and AP is just anti Solutrean propaganda at its worst.

    The second article isn't even worth reading.

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    1. ;)

      The 'Native Americans' copycatted my people's earliest clovis type points.

      Native Americans = johnny come lately Asiatic killer people

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  3. DeuceThu Feb 13, 05:26:00 AM EST

    Religious imperialism has been defined to encompass a “policy of extending a nation’s authority by economic and political means over other nations."
    ****

    Add in the terms "and military means" and you are defining islam worldwide.

    Already an accomplished fact in the Mideast, now the process is going on in Nigeria, among a lot of other places.


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  4. Having dispatched this thread from hell back to hell, and having taken the piss that caused my dormatorial arousal, I go back to bed.

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    1. My people had turned caves into cathedrals and art galleries when the Asiatic r2 people were still sitting in the rain, trying to think how to say. "Gee Willikers, it's wet out here."

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  5. I'm native American too. Born right across the river from Portland, Oregon. My tribe is the Fort Vancouver High School Trappers.

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    1. If you are a "native" American. Then so am I.

      But then???

      The MAJORITY of Israelis are "native" Israelis.

      So much for indigenous peoples.

      Leading up to Israel's independence in 1948, it was common for the international press to label Jews, not Arabs, living in the mandate as Palestinians. It was not until years after Israeli independence that the Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip were called Palestinians. In fact, Arabs cannot even correctly pronounce the word Palestine in their native tongue, referring to area rather as“Filastin.”

      The word Palestine or Filastin does not appear in the Koran. The term peleshet appears in the Jewish Tanakh no fewer than 250 times.

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    2. Though the definite origins of the word "Palestine" have been debated for years and are still not known for sure, the name is believed to be derived from the Egyptian and Hebrew word peleshet. Roughly translated to mean "rolling" or "migratory, or invader" the term was used to describe the inhabitants of the land to the northeast of Egypt - the Philistines. The Philistines were an Aegean people - more closely related to the Greeks and with no connection ethnically, linguisticly or historically with Arabia - who conquered in the 12th Century BCE the Mediterranean coastal plain that is now Israel and Gaza.

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    3. so to add to my old statement that there was not even a P in arabic...

      Arabs cannot even correctly pronounce the word Palestine in their native tongue, referring to area rather as“Filastin.”

      Arabs cannot even SAY a P in arabic...

      LOL

      Frauds.

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    4. But let's give them a state....

      lol

      losers... and those that support the fraud? dumb losers.

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  6. Arabs cannot even SAY a P in arabic...

    And from that we must conclude that no Arabs were living in lands now occupied by Eastern European colonists.

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    1. You are a hypocrite on so many levels.

      1st. Jews have lived in the lands you talk about for over 3400 years. Like it or not that is a fact.

      2nd. You claim to be a native american. by those standards and ONLY those standards 70% of all Israelis are native born. (go fuck yourself)

      3. Arabs STILL live in Israel to the tune of 20% of the population and more in actual numbers than existed in the entire region in 1948 ( yes you are an anti-Semitic asshole)

      4. Jews lived in the rest of the middle east 899/900th where the arabs now exclusively live since they DROVE those jews out and into Israel.

      5. you are still a lying sack of fermented shit.

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    2. Teresita RedingerThu Feb 13, 06:40:00 AM EST
      I'm native American too. Born right across the river from Portland, Oregon. My tribe is the Fort Vancouver High School Trappers.


      So if we use Ms T's standards...

      Why would she say: "And from that we must conclude that no Arabs were living in lands now occupied by Eastern European colonists."

      Unless she is an anti-semite.

      One standard for all except Israelis?

      If your "standard" of who is a native is to be applied? then 70% of all Israelis are natives, as they are born there.

      suck that....

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  8. Bullshit. We know the world is only 6,000 years old. God (the bible) tells us so.

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    1. Really? Please quote that in the original language or shut the fuck up.

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    2. And define what a year in the hebrew bible is/was.

      In the original, in context.

      or? shut the fuck up.

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    3. I'm not the least bit interested in your stupid superstitions.

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    4. Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 09:11:00 AM EST
      Blow me wio.

      Sorry I don't do shrimp.

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    5. Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 09:07:00 AM EST
      Bullshit. We know the world is only 6,000 years old. God (the bible) tells us so.

      Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 09:13:00 AM EST
      I'm not the least bit interested in your stupid superstitions.


      And yet your falsely make statements alluding to it...

      Blow me pagan.

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  9. Interestingly, all DNA evidence seems to be pointing to the Ukraine as the birthplace of the modern human race, and civilization as we know it.

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  10. This national religious revival is not occurring at the expense of Israeli or West Bank Arabs. On the contrary, the Arab population between the River and the Sea is flourishing as no modern Arab population ever did. A fifth of Israel’s medical students are Arab, as are a third of the students at the University of Haifa. Ariel University across the “Green Line” in Samaria, the “settler’s university,” is educating a whole generation of West Bank Arabs. The campus is full of young Arab women in headscarves, and the local Jewish leadership reaches out to Arab villages to recruit talented students. Israel’s expanding economy has a bottomless demand for young people of ability and ambition. The Left calls Israel an “apartheid state” the way it used to call America a “fascist state” back in the 1960s.

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    1. shah don't tell the idiots that hate israel this top secret info...

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  11. DeuceThu Feb 13, 08:02:00 AM EST
    You just can’t bring yourself to say that the Jewish People of Israel have a right to liberate their nation and their own self determination.

    They don’t have your claimed right.




    LOL No rights for Jews. All rights for everyone else....

    I read about that in Mein Kampf.

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  12. Farmer Bob,

    What say you to this depiction of history? Are the facts cited accurate?

    "In the late 1940s, our beneficiary expelled some 700,000 indigenous people from the land it was claiming. In 1967, our client seized some contiguous pieces of real estate and ever since has been colonizing these territories with nearly 650,000 of its own people. It has divided the conquered lands with myriad checkpoints and roads accessible only to the colonizers and is building a 440-mile wall around (and cutting into) the conquered territory, creating a geography of control that violates international law.

    “Ethnic cleansing” is a harsh term, but apt for a situation in which people are driven out of their homes and lands because they are not of the right tribe. Though many will balk at leveling this charge against Israel — for that country is, of course, the top recipient of American aid and especially military largesse — who would hesitate to use the term if, in a mirror-image world, all of this were being inflicted on Israeli Jews?"

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    1. 1. our beneficiary expelled really? The arabs of the area FOR THE MOST part left at the urging of their leaders, to get out of the way for the incoming arab armies so that they could slaughter everyone in sight.

      2.some 700,000 indigenous people from the land it was claiming that number has grown from 450,000 to now 700,000 it grows with each decade. and MORE Jews were displaced in 1948 and pushed INTO israel by the arab world.

      3. In 1967, our client seized some contiguous pieces of real estate and ever since has been colonizing these territories with nearly 650,000 of its own people.

      This completely ignores the 1967 war and how the egyptians, iraqis syrians and jordanians LOST a war of aggression.

      4: It has divided the conquered lands with myriad checkpoints and roads accessible only to the colonizers and is building a 440-mile wall around (and cutting into) the conquered territory, creating a geography of control that violates international law.

      98% of the wall is a fence. And yes there are checkpoints that were set up to stop suicide bombers. Maybe if there were no suicide bombers there would be no barriers. As for "international law" which came 1st suicide bombers, wars of genocide or the fence?

      5; “Ethnic cleansing” is a harsh term, but apt for a situation in which people are driven out of their homes and lands because they are not of the right tribe.

      yes it occurred to the Jews of the arab occupied worlds. please start with medina and come forward. There is no ethnic cleansing in Israel as Israel has 20% arabs as citizens.


      6: the top recipient of American aid and especially military largesse

      more money was spent on 3 weeks in afghanistan that the yearly aid to israel.

      I'd say the depiction you posted is what we call "cacum" or shit....

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    2. Just to be clear...

      When the Jews of Hebron were butchered and driven out in 1920 that was ok?

      When the Jews of Arab world were driven out that was ok?

      When the arabs took over the Temple Mount and built mosque on it that was ok?

      When the Mount of Olives was destroyed by the arabs that was ok?

      Jews do not have a right to the Temple Wall?

      One set of rights for the arabs, no rights for the jews.

      sounds like Nazi germany.....

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    3. Not to worry, this time the Jews will bite back..

      We are a much harder critter to shove in an oven this time.

      But by all means... TRY.....

      PLEASE TRY.....

      Delete
    4. Ash, my good man, my answer is I think your two quoted paragraphs are such an extremely compressed misrepresentation of reality as to be totally worthless.

      The best comment on this blog this morning is WiO telling r2 he doesn't do shrimp.


      ar,ar,ar,ar,ar - that should put the old geezer back in his freezer for a while.

      r2 shoulda stuck with his generic sexual solicitation..........

      Delete
    5. Cartel Bob is at it again, using is drug dealer codes.

      Munching on Blood Avocados and talkin' crap

      Delete
    6. What is the reality in your view Farmer Bob?

      Delete
  13. 5. you are still a lying sack of fermented shit.

    Glad to see Deuce's blog has improved. This is why my name is not on it, and I can't post topics.

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    1. Teresita RedingerThu Feb 13, 09:24:00 AM EST
      5. you are still a lying sack of fermented shit.


      why argue? you are....

      Delete
    2. you throw firebombs and bitch when we call you out...

      up yours.

      Delete
  14. DeuceThu Feb 13, 09:27:00 AM EST
    Right on.


    So Deuce, you are ok with the ethnic cleansing of 700,000 jews from the arab world.

    you are fine with the Jews not having the right to create their own state,

    cool...

    Be sure and tell your jewish friends you opinions where you live, off the blog and be ready for their reaction...

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  15. .

    I agree with both of you guys. And while I sympathize with the ordinary citizens who are the real victims here, let's face it, the governments of most nations in the ME are made up of dicks.

    IMO, the only aid the US should supply there is humanitarian aid and only then if it can be guaranteed that it gets to the people and not siphoned off to the pockets of the thugs running most of these countries and organizations.

    .

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    1. DICKs is hardly a standard.

      Most politician of this nation are DICKS.,

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    2. .

      True enough. But then they are our dicks and I'm not into relativism merely accurate description.

      Obviously, it doesn't change my opinion on aid to that shithole that is the ME.

      .

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    3. I am for all aid to be cut to the ME but that has to include the free protection of OPEC shipping. It also has to include the stopping of all military aid to Turkey, the Arabs and any support for Pakistan.

      let's be honest "aid" is more than what is described as "aid"

      Allies should get trade deals, enemies should not.

      Israel is still the ONLY ally of the USA in the middle east, regardless of Deuce's, Rat's, Rufus's, Jenny's or Ms T's want.


      In fact Israel, which cannot join NATO at this time because of Turkey's objection, is going to be elevated to a new level of status, which will enshrine the America/israel relationship to a new and closer level.

      I know it pisses off the arab firsters but too bad...

      Delete
  16. DeuceThu Feb 13, 08:02:00 AM EST
    You just can’t bring yourself to say that the Jewish People of Israel have a right to liberate their nation and their own self determination.

    They don’t have your claimed right.



    where do you want to se the line?

    America and it's colonies should be given back to asians that inhabited the lands?

    England, France, Germany, Portugal & Spain should give up all lands not attached to their historic mainland?

    Or are only Jews not allowed to self determination and liberation of their lands?

    Go ahead deuce...

    answer

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  17. By what rights do the modern arab nation stand?

    many were created in 1948.

    many displaced the natives of these lands..

    From the Berbers to the Druze, From the KURDS to the Jews the arabs have displaced and stolen many native peoples lands, businesses and historic rights...

    The Coptics of Egypt.....

    Why only the concern over the fake nationalistic group called "palestinians"?

    Israel sits on 1/900th of the middle east, surely there is ROOM for all.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. Because the Palestinians murdered their way to the top of the list...

      The Copts, nor the Berbers, nor the Druze or the KURDs blow up european civilians....

      Delete



  18. What is "Occupation"Thu Feb 13, 09:14:00 AM EST

    Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 09:11:00 AM EST
    Blow me wio.

    Sorry I don't do shrimp.


    :)

    ar,ar,ar,ar

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  19. Farmer BobThu Feb 13, 10:21:00 AM EST

    Ash, my good man, my answer is I think your two quoted paragraphs are such an extremely compressed misrepresentation of reality as to be totally worthless.

    The best comment on this blog this morning is WiO telling r2 he doesn't do shrimp.


    ar,ar,ar,ar,ar - that should put the old geezer back in his freezer for a while.

    r2 shoulda stuck with his generic sexual solicitation..........

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    1. ar,ar,ar,ar,ar - I don't do shrimp - hehehearararar

      geezer to the freeeezer
      geezer to the freeeezer


      ar,ar,ar,ar

      I really like that one - I don't do shrimp

      hahahahahaha

      Delete
    2. r2 will hear that reply again, ar,ar,ar, and again and again, if he persists, I predict.

      Delete
    3. Cartel Bob,he has blood his hands.

      Delete
    4. Seeing as you are keen on repeating you comment down here as well as on the thread above I'll ask you here as well:

      "What is the reality in your view Farmer Bob?"

      Delete
    5. DR seems to think that if an American eats an avocado he has "blood" on his hands.

      Let's take DR at his word.

      Bob, by eating Avacados you support the murder of innocents.

      Now by that logic DR, who has admitted instructing Guatamalan Paramilitary forces on how to seek and destroy missions against the natives of that nation has blood all over his body, not a soldier of the USA, but a soldier of fortune, a merc, a hired gun must have real guilt.

      Tell us, when you were "working for Ollie North" doing all sorts of illegal activities down in Central America way, how much actual blood is on your actual hands?

      you want to guilt us for avocados?

      How about you own up to the war crimes you committed?

      Delete
  20. According to Harvard medical School, and City University of New York numbers, Pennsylvania Governor, Tom Corbett, killed 4 people, today (176 for the year,) by his, and the Republicans' refusal to take the free Federal money to expand Medicaid in that state.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. Okay, let's get it out of the way;

      Dear usual suspects, Blow Me.

      Delete
    2. According to my numbers, Obama killed 1776 people last year by failing to expel illegal immigrants convicted of crime here.

      Delete



    3. Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 10:27:00 AM EST

      Okay, let's get it out of the way;

      Dear usual suspects, Blow Me.



      That's so much better !

      Delete
    4. :)

      Now everything is cool again.

      Delete
  21. I guess you have to be "ate up" with Obama Derangement Syndrome not to know that he has Deported More Illegal Aliens Than Any President in History.

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  22. Look at those Israeli rants with not a fact to back 'em up.
    And not even on the topic, US military aid to ethnic cleansers.
    Nor is he willing to discuss genetics, another gaping hole in the Zionist ideological fraud and propaganda wall

    No mention is made of the comments made by the CENTCOM commanders, by either the Israeli or Bloody Bob.

    The Europeons are going to cut trade with Israel, and the Israeli are afraid of that.
    Being Eurpeons, genetically, the colonists that have conquered Palestine know that if their homelands turn on them, they cannot maintain their current position in the occupied portions of the Middle East they now control.

    That is why they hire people like 'What' to debase social media sites with their rants and ravings.

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    1. The self confessed killer of the civilians of Central America speaks "desert rat"

      Rat, all things are equal. America is a construct.

      Israel is a construct and even the fake people of palestine are a construct.

      Don't like Israel? Too Bad.

      What are you going to do about it? Smoke a joint?

      LOL

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    2. The Europeons are going to cut trade with Israel, and the Israeli are afraid of that.

      LOL actually no they will not… They will whore themselves out, JUST like the world does for "stuff"

      In this case, they may BOYCOTT "soda stream" but they are LINING up to BUY Israeli natural gas…

      LOL

      BTW America BUYS BILLIONS from Arabia and China. Don't see them stopping the dollars…

      LOL

      DR=checker player...

      Delete
    3. DR, the blog's MERC says: That is why they hire people like 'What' to debase social media sites with their rants and ravings.


      Sorry DR, I made my millions from parve chocolate…

      I DONATE millions and millions to Israel…

      And did you KNOW my BIGGEST customers are Moslems? LOL Got to LOVE those "Halal" stickers…

      LOL

      Talk about a stupid group of consumers… Stick a "HALAL" on something and idiots line up to buy it…

      LOL

      Delete
    4. Right now I sell more israeli dried fruits labeled HALAL than almost any other importer in the nation…

      LOL

      Fucking morons..

      Delete
    5. Dr, our professional "hired gun" of the blog says: The Europeons are going to cut trade with Israel, and the Israeli are afraid of that.

      No Israel doesn't LIKE Iranian nukes and Nazi Germany… Do you really think that an economic boycott from Europe is making israel afraid when China, India. japan, African nations of all sorts, Central and South American nations are BEGGING for israeli innovations and technology?

      LOL

      And the truth as stated before. israel is about to cause a major upset in the natural gas industry, already SIGNING a multi BILLION dollar contract with……….

      Hold on…


      GET READY FOR IT….



      THE PALESTINIANS!!!!!


      you see the millions and millions of palestinians cannot rely on the turks, jordanians or egyptians anymore…

      Israeli natural gas…

      LOL

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  23. Deuce: Who took you off?

    I did, because 1) I posted non-Israel topics, and the first reply was an Israel post, every single time, and 2) the rule that "Bullying, outing, taunting and making false or malicious unsubstantiated charges against another member is not allowed" is never enforced.

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    1. "2) the rule that "Bullying, outing, taunting and making false or malicious unsubstantiated charges against another member is not allowed" is never enforced."

      I certainly agree with that. An example, one of dozens,by "Farmer Rob" is directly below.

      I'm off to do battle with "The Faucet".

      later......

      Delete
    2. Farmer Bob, you are one of the kings of the ad hominem attach here.

      Delete
    3. Mine, like towards q13 or you, are all in good fun, Ash, or at least have a basis in fact.

      Do you think I support terrorists in where ever it is because I mentioned avocados?

      Delete
    4. Having showered for The Faucet now I shall return later.

      Delete
    5. Upon your return I expect you to back up your bravado and answer what you think the facts are. Don't chicken out!

      Delete
    6. Cartel Bob and his drug dealer codes, if he attacks your sobriety, your past, claims you have committed felonies, accuses folks of covering up capital crimes, well, that's all in good fun.

      But call him Farmer O-Bob-ma, and he does not see the humor in it.
      Mention the FACT he has a toilet fetish, well, he thinks that's just mean, not at all funny.

      heh, heh, heh.

      He objects to being treated as he treats others.

      As does his partner in Ad Hominem, the 'What'

      Delete
  24. Farmer RobThu Feb 13, 10:28:00 AM EST

    Cartel Bob,he has blood his hands.

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  25. Dear Reader:

    pa1 is a sick sick man.

    ReplyDelete
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    1. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    2. More drug dealer codes, from Cartel Bob, another indicator that his brain has been addled by these 'Blood' Avocados.

      He is writing like he was a member of Los Zetas.

      To call him Cartel Bob because of his behaviors and actions, he calls that Ad Hominem.

      But when he accuses Rufus of being a drunk Indian, we're told to think that is 'funny', all in good fun.
      Not the racist libel that it really is.

      Cartel Bob is an intellectual fraud, who hides behind anyone that will shelter his ego from reality.

      Delete
    3. Yeah, my people lived on this land for 13,000 years, and then the white man's army came along and kicked us off of it, and gave it to some asshole swedes, and then paid them Not to farm it.

      It would make Anyone want to get drunk. :)

      Delete
  26. Adam was created on day 6, so there were five days before him. If we add up the dates from Adam to Abraham, we get about 2,000 years, using the Masoretic Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11.3 Whether Christian or secular, most scholars would agree that Abraham lived about 2,000 B.C. (4,000 years ago).

    So a simple calculation is:


    5 days
    + ~2,000 years
    + ~4,000 years


    ~6,000 years

    At this point, the first five days are negligible. Quite a few people have done this calculation using the Masoretic text (which is what most English translations are based on) and with careful attention to the biblical details, they have arrived at the same time frame of about 6,000 years, or about 4000 B.C. Two of the most popular, and perhaps best, are a recent work by Dr. Floyd Jones4 and a much earlier book by Archbishop James Ussher5 (1581–1656). See table 1.

    I don't pretend to know anything about the idiot's guide to life (also known as "the bible,) but my first google escapade brought up this

    answers genesis

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    1. it's like watching kindergardeners discussing physics.

      Rufus "christians" who interpret the Hebrew Scriptures for their own end come up with all sorts of answers that do not fit the truth.

      Congrats.

      you are a moron

      Delete
    2. During the time when magic words, open to proper interpretation by certified “non-Christian” scholars, of course, were scribed on goat skin. It was common knowledge that the universe revolved around the Earth, adulterers were stoned, bushes spontaneously erupted into flames and God, technologically appropriately, carved his words onto stone tablets, rather than i-Pads. People piss away their lives for such nonsense.

      Delete
    3. Jews publicly love the Bible-thumpers, gob-smacked as they are for love of Israel, but can hardly hide their contempt when the thumpers try to show familiarity with the words on the Judeo side of the Christian-Judeos

      Delete
    4. Mis-quoting and out of context proof texting is not a basis for discussion.

      Yes it's moronic to try to discuss "torah" with you as we do not use the same language or definitions

      And the only contempt we have is when you or anyone tells us what our books say.

      During the time of magic words you were still living in a cave worshiping thunder and that goat we were writing on.

      Your ignorance of what our words mean shines thru.

      You just don't have a clue and it shows

      Delete
  27. Typical. "Give me chapter, and verse."

    Okay, "here."

    "I don't like your answer; you're a moron."

    Hard to win with the "God-people."

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    1. No, he is no God-people, he is a racist supporter of apartheid.

      He denies the humanity of four million people in the lands occupied by Ashkenazi Europeons, in the Middle East.

      Now, perhaps his God sanctions that behaviour, if it does, its the Devil, not a God of righteousness, justice and good will.

      If he is a God-people, his God is a pagan warlord.
      Just taste the pudding he serves, it's the curdled human blood of Palestinians sacrificed on a Zionist alter.

      Delete
    2. :) What do you Really think? :) :) :) :) :)

      Delete
    3. this coming from a self confessed murderer…

      projection Herr rat??

      Delete
  28. .

    It's 'secret knowledge', Ruf, esoteric and guarded, known only to the initiated and enlightened few, not to be disseminated and discussed beyond the two main catch phrases 'chosen people' and 'historical homeland'.

    Now if you are really looking for some 'secret knowledge' on the cheap, I can fix you up. At the Rosicrucian, AMORC, temple in San Jose we can set you up with all the secret knowledge that you need. Sure it will cost a little but who can put a price on that which is priceless?

    Well, actually I guess we do, but still....

    :-)

    .
    .

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    1. :) I don't know, Quirk. I'm, evidently, not smart enough to understand the bible;

      I'm probably not smart enough to understand your "secret knowledge." :) :)

      Delete
    2. Maybe, if you advanced me a little "free trial." :)

      Delete
    3. .

      You have just proved you are unworthy at this point, grasshopper.

      However, if you are ever 'inspired' to seek enlightened thought at just $14.95 per month give us a call.

      You too can become a Hermetic mystic.

      As above so below.

      .

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    4. .

      Here comes a Baptist, here comes a Jew
      There goes a Mormon and a Muslim too
      I see a Buddhist and a Hindu
      I see a Catholic and I see you

      We're all God's children
      We're all God's children
      We're all God's children
      Why can't we be one big happy family?


      Alan Jackson/Braddock lyric.

      .

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    5. .

      I'm probably not smart enough to understand your "secret knowledge." :) :)

      Our knowledge is available in graphic form (i.e. comic books).

      .

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    6. Rufus: I'm probably not smart enough to understand your "secret knowledge." :) :)

      Not without serious study and no, this blog does not qualify.

      But you have said time and time again, you don't give a shit about it. But it doesn't stop you from mis quoting it...

      Delete
  29. Left Holds Twitter Hatefest for Deceased Republican: "Fuck Shirley Temple"

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  30. Why can't we be one big happy family?

    The world wouldn't be able to provide for the amount people that can be brought forth by fucking like bunnies.
    Technology can offset only so much.

    Think Easter Island.
    Not a tree left.

    Just my opinion.

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    1. Oops, that was me on my wife's laptop.
      Didn't know she was signed in on her g mail account.

      Delete
    2. "Honey, I finally found your "G" spot!

      Delete
  31. You are making a goddamned fool out of yourself today, Quirk.

    You are smarter than all that shit you posted.

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    1. Really, I am embarrassed for you.

      Delete
    2. Welcome back Farmer Bob. Time to belly up and answer!

      Delete
  32. Just look at that string of rat shit posted above, Ash, concerning yours truly, and tell me this place isn't a toilet.

    5/6ths of it each day has no meaning at all.

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    1. I can't recall exactly the phrase you used concerning pa1.

      Some about you had concluded he'd slipped his pulley, or blew his gearbox, or something.

      Can you recall?

      I remember posting about it, adding you to the majority list here who had put it in writing that the 'guy is not all there, c r a z y, that "something is really wrong with you, rat" (Trish), etc.

      What was it you said, again?

      Delete
    2. You represent one of the biggest turds in the toilet Farmer Bob. Now deal with your bravado and back up your statements and grace us with your view of the reality stated above. You said:

      "Ash, my good man, my answer is I think your two quoted paragraphs are such an extremely compressed misrepresentation of reality as to be totally worthless."

      So, how is it a misrepresentation of reality? What is the reality in your view - or all you all hat and no cattle?

      Delete
    3. This comment has been removed by the author.

      Delete
    4. Cartel Bob can't get a way, he is stuck in the 20th century.

      He and his cohort 'What' are lost souls, that refuse to answer even the most simple questions.
      The Ad Hominem is all they have. not a thought, not a process, just make false accusations, lies and then act indignant when they are called on it.

      A true Fudd, is Cartel Bob, the Idaho Zeta.

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  33. r2, there are very few Swedes in Mississippi.

    They are all up north, in the tough country, the country too tough for the Cherokee.

    It's time for you to give your land back to the Sioux, anyway, and head back to Asia.

    ;

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  34. Last in, first out, motherfucker.

    After you.

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    1. We Swedes were too smart to even consider living in a swamp.

      *****
      ObamaCare News........

      Obamacare Enrollment Rate Slows Markedly In January...

      Still nobody knows how many have actually paid........drudge

      Delete
    2. Motherfucker?

      You are calling me a "motherfucker" here on this polite blog?

      Shame on you.

      Delete
    3. So, Farmer Bob you are telling us your mother was swamp rat.

      And now your claim is that you did not have any swamp rat pussy, since that pussy had you?

      Delete
  35. Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 12:55:00 PM EST
    Typical. "Give me chapter, and verse."

    Okay, "here."

    "I don't like your answer; you're a moron."

    Hard to win with the "God-people."


    What I said you illiterate moron was: What is "Occupation"Thu Feb 13, 09:10:00 AM EST
    Really? Please quote that in the original language or shut the fuck up.

    So you quote in English…

    What a moron.

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    1. You want me to quote in Hebrew?

      Really?

      blow me, asshole.

      Delete
    2. Or is it the Ananaki that founded the Ashkenazi?

      It sure wasn't anyone that was in Egypt.

      Delete
    3. I wanted you to quote your premise in the original words and text of both the oral and written torah.

      If that is to difficult a task? Then SHUT the FUCK up about what you know nothing…

      Your response "blow me, asshole."

      I told you earlier, i don't DO shrimp. But I will amend, I don't do shrimp, cowards or drunks, or military frauds.

      Delete
    4. Farmer RobThu Feb 13, 04:42:00 PM EST
      Who still speaks Babylonian?


      DR using one of many aliases asks Who still speaks Babylonian?


      DR, you ignorant slut, you killer of babies, are you serious?

      Even you, the fraud that you are are capable of figuring out the language of the Torah.

      But hiding out from the law is a full time job for you…. I wonder has the Homeland security visited you lately?

      Delete
    5. He's been workin' for Homeland Security, all this time, fool.

      Why do you think the IRS is on your ass?

      ;-)

      Delete
    6. Trust me; he's never had an IRS audit.

      Delete
    7. Who cares, rufus, whether he has, or not.

      'What' is like one of Cartel Bob's enemas, just a space filler that voids itself.

      Delete
  36. 1.1 MILLION Obamacare enrollees in Jan. (beat CBO expectations for the first time.)

    14.46 Million Total Enrollments

    ACA Signups

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  37. just in case you missed it:

    Mis-quoting and out of context proof texting is not a basis for discussion.

    Yes it's moronic to try to discuss "torah" with you as we do not use the same language or definitions

    And the only contempt we have is when you or anyone tells us what our books say.

    During the time of magic words you were still living in a cave worshiping thunder and that goat we were writing on.

    Your ignorance of what our words mean shines thru.

    You just don't have a clue and it shows

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  38. What was the original language of Torah when it was revealed to Moses(as). Is that language spoken anywhere today or if writings in the language still survive and are understood by some people.
    -----Answer-----

    The language was Biblical Hebrew, which was a dialect of the Canaanite language. Just like Arabic is today the lingua franca of the Middle East, Canaanite was the dominant language of that area prior to 800 BC, when it was replaced by Aramaic (Syriac).


    A dialect of "the Canaanite language."

    My "Canaanite" is a little rusty, I'm afraid. :) :) :)

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    1. Man, talk about wobbling off into "the crazy . . . . ."

      Delete
    2. So, don't reference "the bible," if you can't quote "the torah" in Canaanite. Is that about it? :)

      Delete
    3. Your simplistic answers show again your moronic nature.

      Torah is written in Hebrew and the writings are in Aramaic.

      Knock yourself out find the passages that describe the world as 6000 years old and the accompanying passages from the Torah or writings that discuss such points or shut the fuck up.

      Go visit a Rabbi..

      Learn something…

      Or dont.

      But don't put words in our mouths and then ridicule the words like we said them…

      Ignorant pagan.

      Delete
    4. Oh, YOU do read Canaanite.

      You're the nuttiest fruitcake that I've ever run into on the internet - and, That is saying something.

      Delete
    5. Rufus suggestion, don't tell the Rabbi that he speaks "canaanite"

      Delete
  39. Farmer RobThu Feb 13, 01:21:00 PM EST
    No, he is no God-people, he is a racist supporter of apartheid.
    He denies the humanity of four million people in the lands occupied by Ashkenazi Europeons, in the Middle East.
    Now, perhaps his God sanctions that behaviour, if it does, its the Devil, not a God of righteousness, justice and good will.
    If he is a God-people, his God is a pagan warlord.
    Just taste the pudding he serves, it's the curdled human blood of Palestinians sacrificed on a Zionist alter.



    Thus spoken by the only person on this blog who admitted killing men, women and babies as a merc…

    Desert Rat….


    A hired gun…

    Speaks volumes.

    meanwhile in Syria palestinians are eating barrel bombs. LOL

    In Israel Arabs? Enjoy full equal rights and citizenship…

    LOL

    And you wonder why I think you have an anti-semitic blog?

    LOL

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    1. How about a link for THAT, you lying, crazy sonofabitch.

      Delete
    2. Just what Deuce said he would police, and failed to do so.

      Same as Ms T noted.

      There is no link those statements were never made.
      But ....

      Everyone knows that, which is why Rat has had 17,500 people go to his profile looking for more information about his opinions, and the two liars, between 'em, don't have 200.

      Goes to show, no one is interested in Cartel Bob, the Zeta.
      Even fewer care about the 'What'.

      They can't do anything but throw their shit, 'cause they have no content that counts.

      Delete
    3. wow… I am impressed

      Everyone knows that, which is why Rat has had 17,500 people go to his profile looking for more information about his opinions, and the two liars, between 'em, don't have 200.

      Rat has 17k views!!!!!!!!

      Now I know rat is actually a 12 year boy living in his parents house and is totally full of shit…

      17k views????

      LOL


      you have got to be kidding me…

      what a retarded person…

      page views?

      My son tells me about likes for sneakers he gets… So middle school….

      LOL

      rat you are one fucktard.

      Delete
  40. desert rat says:

    The Ad Hominem is all they have.


    No, he is no God-people, he is a racist supporter of apartheid.
    He denies the humanity of four million people in the lands occupied by Ashkenazi Europeons, in the Middle East.
    Now, perhaps his God sanctions that behaviour, if it does, its the Devil, not a God of righteousness, justice and good will.
    If he is a God-people, his God is a pagan warlord.
    Just taste the pudding he serves, it's the curdled human blood of Palestinians sacrificed on a Zionist alter.





    No we have Israel.

    A thriving great nation who has a strong free arab population that number about 20%

    A nation that fights those that seek the genocide of the jewish people

    A people who have been around for thousands and thousands of years.

    A culture that lifts up and innovates and helps a billion people live better…..

    Thanks again for showing us how evil you are and how wonderful israel is...

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    1. No, you do not have "Israel", the Israelis have Israel and you denied that you are an Israeli.

      Delete
    2. Whatever he is, every time he wanders off in "day to day" Americana it's 'comic book' time.

      (the IRS camped out in my accountant's office for TWO Weeks!)

      jeebus :)

      Delete
    3. All "Jews" have Israel.

      Knowing if you turn up somewhere and start murdering jews? The Mossad will and can take care of you….

      That makes Jews sleep better knowing jew haters like you can't simply murder at will Jews without a penalty.

      Delete
    4. Rat you are so "checkers" in a "go" world…

      Delete
    5. No, Israeli are Israeli, Jews are whatever ...

      The two are not synonymous nor can they be conflated.

      If you have a passport, you are Israeli.
      If you don't, the most you are ...
      ... is a 'wannbe'.

      So you are either an Israeli passport holder, or you are not an Israeli.
      It is possible that you could be a Jew, maybe even be a Zionist, but without documentation, you're just another 'wannabe'.

      An undocumented Israeli, that's the same as a Palestinian.

      Delete
    6. tell yourself that 3 times a day for 10000 years and it's still wrong on many levels.

      Jews have Israel.

      Worldwide.

      All Jews are have a stake in the jewish State of Israel.

      You keep blowing smoke, maybe its from being a pot head like you claimed that causes you not to understand the world.

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  41. Shocker from the 9th -








    Ninth Circuit: The Second Amendment guarantees the right to carry a gun in public


    posted at 4:01 pm on February 13, 2014 by Allahpundit






    Via Gabe Malor, who’s already found the tastiest chestnuts in the opinion. The novelty here isn’t the ruling itself but the court issuing it. It’s the Ninth Circuit, which has jurisdiction over the west coast and typically leans left thanks to liberal all-stars like Stephen Reinhardt. (He wasn’t part of the panel that heard this one, thankfully.) With today’s ruling, the Ninth joins the Seventh in holding that the Second Amendment, just as it says, includes a right to “bear” arms. States can regulate that right but they can’t ban it altogether. Three other federal appellate courts have ruled the other way, all but guaranteeing that SCOTUS will end up deciding this sooner rather than later. Memo to the Court’s conservatives: Grant cert ASAP, please, before Obama gets another appointment.

    The particular statute at issue here was San Diego’s law banning concealed carry. The only way to get a permit there is to show a “unique risk of harm.” Wanting to carry a gun for self-defense without showing a special need isn’t good enough. The Supreme Court’s Heller ruling six years ago already guaranteed the right to possess a gun at home, so the question today was whether limiting carry to one’s own household is a permissible state regulation of the right to bear arms or an impermissible outright prohibition. Given the text of the Amendment, says the Ninth Circuit, the answer is obvious:

    2a

    If, as the Supremes found in Heller, the Second Amendment is ultimately a right of self-defense then it’s goofy to think that the right can be limited to one’s own home. If anything, the ability to defend yourself is more urgent when you’re not protected by four walls. A little more from the majority’s conclusion:

    2a2

    You can ban open carry or you can ban concealed carry but you can’t ban carry entirely without completely depriving people of their right to “bear.”

    Here’s the opinion. A history lesson on America’s long jurisprudential tradition of defending the right to carry begins on page 23; brush up for the next time someone on the left insists that these activist conservative courts have gone rogue in defending gun rights. Big question now: Will this ruling survive? It was heard by a three-judge panel, as is custom for appellate cases. But the entire Ninth Circuit can request an “en banc” hearing of 11 judges, a majority of whom might be liberal, to reconsider it. Probably doesn’t matter either way. This issue is headed to the Supreme Court no matter what the Ninth does.

    Exit question: Wendy “Open Carry” Davis must be thrilled at the news, no?

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  42. Miss T -

    Why don't you start up a blog just like this one, same basic format, put Deuce in as most honored guest, let all the members do threads, except ban crazy rat forever, and get this thing back to a little good sense.

    Since rat was allowed back in it has turned into total non sense and a cess pool as everyone knew it would. It is idiotic as it presently is today.

    It's a waste of time.

    We were doing well there for awhile.

    It was enjoyable.

    Discussions were decent, at least polite.

    Give it some thought.

    This place is an embarrassment as it is now.

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    1. Then leave! You do nothing but rant and never discuss.

      Delete
    2. Or WiO, of Quirk, or some one else that can handle it.

      I thought Miss T did a decent job.

      It's clearly the case now that there are no rules here, no decorum, no nothing really.......

      Delete
    3. ms T already has a blog. GO! COMMENT! Have fun.


      See ya

      http://linux-gal.blogspot.ca/

      Delete
    4. Cartel Bob doesn't know how to type that address, ash.

      When he had you 'help' him get his account open, it was late December, but his profile was opened the month before.

      Wonder if his wife died yet, he told us she was terminal, back before Trish said he was a piece of shit for playing on her sympathy.

      She was gullible, for a military intelligence type, but that is an oxymoron, isn't it.

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  43. Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 05:10:00 PM EST
    How about a link for THAT, you lying, crazy sonofabitch.

    I gave you one.

    Go visit our alive links..

    Visit a Rabbi and ask your questions…

    You are dense.

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    1. Rufus, you are looking for a pat answer, you are conditioned by the christians with this chapter and verse stuff.

      Some things are not literal, not linear.

      Some things need more than a 30 sec sound bite.

      Some explanations require understanding the definitions PRIOR to the answer.

      Expand that little thing you call a brain, visit a Rabbi and ask your queries.

      Delete
    2. or an IMAM with respect to Islam?

      Delete
    3. Ash you being the Islamic expert and member would know that answer.

      Delete
  44. Sometimes Rufus you just don't make sense.

    Rufus IIThu Feb 13, 05:24:00 PM EST
    Whatever he is, every time he wanders off in "day to day" Americana it's 'comic book' time.

    (the IRS camped out in my accountant's office for TWO Weeks!)

    jeebus :)


    I guess you don't own companies. I guess you never have had an audit. I guess you don't use an accountant?

    I guess you just are way above us all and know all the answers to everything..

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  45. No we have Israel.

    A thriving great nation who has a strong free arab population that number about 20%

    A nation that fights those that seek the genocide of the jewish people

    A people who have been around for thousands and thousands of years.

    A culture that lifts up and innovates and helps a billion people live better…..

    Thanks again for showing us how evil you are and how wonderful israel is…


    repeated for the illiterates

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    1. No we have Israel.

      The Jewish people in the world have Israel.. The fact you cannot understand it? proves your lack of understanding.

      You call us Israel firsters, you deem this an insult and yet i deem it a complement.

      I was born in America. I am American however Israel is mine as well….

      To deep for the checker player Desert Rat?

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    2. What the Jewish people have, 'Wannabe', is whatever they have, but it is not Israel. Unless they sign up.

      If they have signed up and been accepted, have their papers in order, then they are Israeli.
      But Israel does not get to 'claim' people that do not want to participate, any more than Mormons can baptize dead Jews, and make them Mormons. Even though they did try.

      Israel can offer membership, but if the offer is not accepted, well, those that do not sign up, they are not in the 'Club'.

      Without papers, in Israel, you're just a Palestinian.

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    3. LOL you so funny…

      So everyone is a palestinian?

      No Rat, Jews world wide "have" israel.

      I am sorry in middle school they don't teach you these things.

      You really don't understand Jews, Israel, Judaism, Zionism and or Torah. You do understand what the boys behind the barn teach you. And judging from your accumulated knowledge? It aint much.

      Now DR, if i want to KNOW how to roll a joint? You will be my go to kid… If I want to know how to auto visit a profile to build "views" you are the man of the hour. Or should we say "child"….?

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  46. wow… I am impressed

    Everyone knows that, which is why Rat has had 17,500 people go to his profile looking for more information about his opinions, and the two liars, between 'em, don't have 200.

    Rat has 17k views!!!!!!!!

    Now I know rat is actually a 12 year boy living in his parents house and is totally full of shit…

    17k views????

    LOL


    you have got to be kidding me…

    what a retarded person…

    page views?

    My son tells me about likes for sneakers he gets… So middle school….

    LOL

    rat you are one fucktard.

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  47. Got to love the Rat, keeps inventing new crap on a hourly basis with no basis in facts.

    LOL

    Israel is.

    It's not for you, but it is for me, anytime I wish.

    You? Are a nothing….

    What have you accomplished in your long 12 years on the planet?

    17,500 profile views?????



    LOL

    Rat, the EB's virgin loser…


    Rat, the 12 year old faker!

    LOL

    We've been arguing with a child all this time...

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  48. I bet Rat's father or grandfather served.

    Rat's still waiting for the xbox…

    LOL

    17,500 profile views.

    LOL

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  49. Rat MUST be a home schooler.

    All that time to create dozens of profiles….

    LOL

    17,500 profile view and counting….

    LOL

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    1. Wannabe is ranting.

      If I was a member of the 'Club' I'd call for invoking the Rules, but it's so entertaining to watch

      making false or malicious unsubstantiated charges against another member is not allowed.

      Goes to the Wannabe's point, just because a fella's mom was a Jew, it don't make 'em an Israeli.
      Religion is a choice, so the bloodlines don't really make the fella a Jew, either.
      Like Bibi, he'd just be an Ashkenazi.

      A secular 'Jew', that is oxymoronic, like most everything 'Wannabe' writes.
      It contradicts itself.

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    2. If he is a God-people, his God is a pagan warlord.
      Just taste the pudding he serves, it's the curdled human blood of Palestinians sacrificed on a Zionist alter.

      Delete
    3. AnonymousThu Feb 13, 06:49:00 PM EST
      Wannabe is ranting.
      If I was a member of the 'Club' I'd call for invoking the Rules, but it's so entertaining to watch
      making false or malicious unsubstantiated charges against another member is not allowed.

      Goes to the Wannabe's point, just because a fella's mom was a Jew, it don't make 'em an Israeli.
      Religion is a choice, so the bloodlines don't really make the fella a Jew, either.
      Like Bibi, he'd just be an Ashkenazi.
      A secular 'Jew', that is oxymoronic, like most everything 'Wannabe' writes.
      It contradicts itself.


      Distortions and misdirections…

      However the good news? You have plunged the blog into the toilet all by you and your various names. I know you are proud.

      Love this little line you told us "If he is a God-people, his God is a pagan warlord.
      Just taste the pudding he serves, it's the curdled human blood of Palestinians sacrificed on a Zionist alter."

      Wow.. at 12 years old such imagery.

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  50. Doug, why don't you take command of this train wreck? You are an obvious choice.

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    1. it's deuce's train…

      it was going good for a time…

      now it's back to " it's the curdled human blood of Palestinians sacrificed on a Zionist alter." stuff

      Delete
    2. What's wrong Cartel Bob, no one over at Ms T's blog?

      Delete
    3. Ash, I considered you too, but you are not up to the job.

      All you ever do is rant and rave, and never offer any serious or cogent arguments.

      Many here have noticed this. This goes back a long way on your part, back to when you were a global warmer, and mocked the rest of us rubes.

      I recall it turned out that all your "peer reviewed studies" were indeed peer reviewed, but they were all in cahoots, so you were left with well deserved mud on your face.

      hah, hah

      You slinked away from that argument over time and never mentioned it again.......I won't go on and on, but many here think that in brain cells you are only a few hundred ahead of pa1.

      You were the only one here ever put in The Dunce Box, do not forget that, my good friend.

      :)

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    5. And it was a well deserved 'time out' for you, too, and did us all good, and I recall that upon your later return from THE DUNCE BOX you were, for a short while, much more polite, thoughtful and restrained, like a bad doggy who had been chastised on lease and let free on temporary probation.

      Delete
    6. Deuce more or less tried The Dunce Box with pa1 by banning him for awhile, but it doesn't work, he just comes back unchanged and as nauseating as usual.

      Delete
    7. oh my, farmer bob has come out swinging but hasn't ventured to offer a single argument yet. Do you want to discuss Global Warming and the science behind it - go on cite some studies and offer an argument.

      With respect to today's bullshit that you've spewed you have yet to advance a single argument support your view. Here let me quote you again so that you can directly reference the quote and supply us with some of your arguments:

      "Ash, my good man, my answer is I think your two quoted paragraphs are such an extremely compressed misrepresentation of reality as to be totally worthless."

      So, have at it - tell us how the reality was misrepresented. I know why you don't though - it is because you don't have a clue as to the history of Israel and the period being discussed. At least WiO offers an argument and a rebuttal - you nothing, ever!

      You keep saying the place has gone into the toilet and that you will leave. Well, leave, go - don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. If you have an argument make it but you never have and I doubt you ever will. You just spout and foam at the mouth regurgitating AM thinker and Jihadwatch. Sad, really.

      Delete
    8. That's Cartel Bob, nothing but rants and lies, no intellectual depth, no imagination and not very humorous, except in a cynical way.

      His attempts at Hegelian tactics, now that's comical, but I am sure that the humor, in those cases, is unintended.

      Delete
    9. Yeah, for a change, I decided to try to read Farmer Bob's posts and see if there isn't some merit to them. I am still trying to get him to support his statements but he refuses. He really doesn't have much grasp on the world around him.

      Delete
    10. .

      There are only a few here, Ash, who will enter into a discussion (well for this blog, lest be honest and call it argument) that they are willing to pursue for any length of time offering actual supporting evidence for their views.

      .

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  51. Would someone read what 'Wannabe' is writing, and report back?

    I just can't bring myself to read any more of his drivel.

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    1. .

      My. My. An Allen clone.

      Can't bring yourself to read it?

      Bullshit. You will read it. You can't help yourself. Too worried he will say something about you won't get a chance to reply to. Too eager to spot something you can bitch about.

      :-)

      .

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    2. You are really really off your usual decent game today, Quirk.

      You unloaded a full ton of non sense upstream.

      Want to take my place under The Faucet next week?

      Might do you some good.

      Signed, hopeful

      ar,ar,ar

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    3. And no, I don't read much rat. It's impossible not to notice the short shit, tho.

      Deuce is simply not a disciplinarian.

      Even you, Quirk, would do better.

      Delete
  52. The tide turns against Israel

    Pariah status and isolation lie ahead


    By Jonathan Cook in Nazareth

    Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu has rarely been so politically embattled. His travails indicate the Israeli right’s inability to respond to a shifting political landscape, both in the region and globally.

    The context for his troubles was his commitment in 2009, under great pressure from a newly elected US president, Barack Obama, to support the creation of a Palestinian state. It was a concession he never wanted to make and one he has regretted ever since.

    External pressure

    The US secretary of state, John Kerry, has exploited that pledge by imposing the current peace talks. Now Netanyahu faces an imminent “framework agreement” that may require him to make further commitments towards an outcome he abhors.

    Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority, is not helping. Rather than digging in his own heels, he offers constant accommodation. Last week Abbas told the New York Times that Israel could take a leisurely five years removing its soldiers and settlers from a key piece of Palestinian territory, the Jordan Valley. The Palestinian state would remain demilitarized, while NATO troops could stay “for a long time, and wherever they want”.

    The Arab League is another thorn. It has obliged by renewing its offer from 2002, the Arab Peace Initiative, that promises Israel peaceful relations with the Arab world in return for its agreement to Palestinian statehood.

    Meanwhile, the European Union is gently turning the screws on the occupation. It regularly trumpets condemnation of Israel’s settlement-building frenzies, including last week’s announcement of 558 settler homes in East Jerusalem. And in the background sanctions loom over settlement goods.

    European financial institutions are providing a useful barometer of the mood among the 28 EU member states. They have become the unexpected pioneers of the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement, with a steady trickle of banks and pension funds pulling out their investments in recent weeks.

    Pointing out that boycotts and “delegitimization” campaigns are only going to gather pace, Kerry has warned that Israel’s traditional policy is “unsustainable”.

    Domestic pressure


    That message rings true with many Israeli business leaders, who have thrown their weight behind the US diplomatic plan. They believe that a Palestinian state is the key to Israel gaining access to lucrative regional markets and continued economic growth.

    Netanyahu must have been disconcerted by the news that among those meeting Kerry to express support at the World Economic Forum in Davos last month was Shlomi Fogel, the prime minister’s long-time intimate.

    Pressure on these various fronts may explain Netanyahu’s hasty convening last weekend of his senior ministers to devise a strategy to counter the boycott trend. Proposals include a 28-million-dollar media campaign, legal action against boycotting institutions, and intensified surveillance of overseas activists by the Mossad.

    On the domestic scene, Netanyahu – who is known to prize political survival above all other concerns – is getting a rough ride as well. He is being undermined on his right flank by rivals inside the coalition.

    Naftali Bennett, the settlers’ leader, provoked a chafing public feud with Netanyahu this month, accusing him of losing his “moral compass” in the negotiations. At the same time, Avigdor Lieberman, the foreign minister from the far-right Yisrael Beitenu party, has dramatically changed tack, cosying up to Kerry, whom he has called “a true friend of Israel”. Lieberman’s unlikely statesmanship has made Netanyahu’s run-ins with the US look, in the words of a local analyst, “childish and irresponsible”.


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    1. Erratic behaviour

      It is in the light of these mounting pressures on Netanyahu that one should understand his increasingly erratic behaviour – and the growing rift with the US.

      A damaging falling-out last month, following insults from the defence minister against Kerry, has not subsided. Last week Netanyahu unleashed his closest cabinet allies to savage Kerry again, with one calling the US secretary of state’s pronouncements “offensive and intolerable”.

      Susan Rice, Obama’s national security adviser, tweeted her displeasure with a shot across the bows. The Israeli government’s attacks were “totally unfounded and unacceptable”, she noted. Any doubt she was speaking for the president was later dispelled when Obama praised Kerry’s “extraordinary passion and principled diplomacy”.

      But despite outward signs, Netanyahu is less alone than he looks – and far from ready to compromise.

      He has the bulk of the Israeli public behind him, helped by media moguls like his friend Sheldon Adelson who are stoking the national mood of besiegement and victimhood.

      But most importantly he has a large chunk of Israel’s security and economic establishment on side too.

      The settlers and their ideological allies have deeply penetrated the higher ranks of both the army and the Shin Bet, Israel’s secret intelligence service. The Haaretz newspaper revealed this month the disturbing news that three of the four heads of the Shin Bet now subscribe to this extremist ideology.

      Moreover, powerful elements within the security establishment are financially as well as ideologically invested in the occupation. In recent years the defence budget has rocketed to record levels as a whole layer of the senior military exploits the occupation to justify feathering its nest with grossly inflated salaries and pensions.

      There are also vast business profits in the status quo, from hi-tech to resource-grabbing industries. Indications of what is at stake were illuminated recently with the announcement that the Palestinians will have to buy from Israel at great cost two key natural resources – gas and water – they should have in plentiful supply were it not for the occupation.

      With these interest groups at his back, a defiant Netanyahu can probably face off the US diplomatic assault this time. But Kerry is not wrong to warn that in the long term yet another victory for Israeli intransigence will prove pyhrrhic.

      These negotiations may not lead to an agreement, but they will mark a historic turning-point nonetheless. The delegitimization of Israel is truly under way, and the party doing most of the damage is the Israeli leadership itself.

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  53. Ash, you nitwit, I posted a lot about the death penalty, and our society's way of going about coming to some.....always temporary......resolution of various opinions on the topic. You and your source had the USA mixed in with societies which go about such things in an entirely different way than we do here. It is like comparing apples and oranges.

    Yes, we execute some people here. We do it after long and intense legislative battles and arguments, court reviews, the whole thing. People have differing opinions. If you think Ted Bundy should be given a free meal ticket the rest of his days, you are entitled to your opinion. Many others here disagree with you. And the laws are different in differing states as well.

    Texas executes more than any, so I have read, some, none at all.

    My argument is, once again, it is not the number of executed that is so meaningful, but the democratic and judicial processes through which such decisions are finally made. Is this so hard to understand? Not everyone feels the way you seem to do about the issue.

    By the way, I am becoming to like Canada more and more, again, what with your new government. I have always liked Canada.

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    1. In short, Ash, I affirm, the People of Idaho have the right to execute those two drifters who killed that Marine, just back from duty, and his soon to be wife by the Clearwater River, for their car, and a few bucks.

      If the people of Canada would not wish to do so under similar circumstances, that is your right.

      You assume your argument. You are assuming that the number of executions is the meaningful thing, making the assumption that executions are always wrong. Many, probably most, people in the USA disagree, and have gone about crafting their laws in a proper manner.

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  54. BRUTAL WINTER INTENSIFIES...
    WATCHES/WARNINGS...
    RADAR...
    Thousands Without Power...
    Residents Cook Food In Fireplaces...
    Philly Snowfall Shatters 130-Year-Old Record...
    Roker Hits De Blasio on Weather Remarks...
    Pregnant woman killed by snowplow in Brooklyn...
    'Thundersleet' in Virginia...
    Psychiatrist: 'Tremendous Amount' Of Seasonal Affect Disorder.......drudge

    I read Allen in Atlanta is in for another round too. I am starting to think the east can, after all, get some mildly disagreeable weather.

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  55. ObamaCare Bigger Fuck Up Than Previously Thought

    February 13, 2014
    CBO Obamacare job loss worse than reported
    By William Tate




    The Obama machine is scrambling to minimize damage inflicted by the Congressional Budget Office's report that Obamacare will have a negative impact on employment, delaying yet again parts of the employer mandate, and forcing employers to swear Orwellian oaths that they won't cut workers. But a full reading of the CBO report shows that job loss could be even worse than previously reported.



    The CBO report concludes that the equivalent of 2.5 million jobs will be lost due to Obamacare, primarily because of decisions made by workers. But, like Holmes's dog that didn't bark, the report may be even more damning because of what isn't there.



    The CBO minimizes -- and even willfully ignores in some cases -- decisions that employers will make about jobs because of Obamacare provisions that punish them: penalties for not providing insurance, or insurance that doesn't carry the Obamacare stamp of approval; higher costs to provide expanded, and sometimes unnecessary, coverage; costs of maintaining and reporting Obamacare documentation, etc.







    "Uncertainty in several areas -- including the timing and sequence of policy changes and implementation procedures and their effects on health insurance premiums and workers' demand for health insurance -- probably has encouraged some employers to delay hiring. However, those effects are difficult to quantify separately from other developments in the labor market, and possible effects on the demand for labor through such channels have not been incorporated into CBO's estimates of the ACA's impact." (Emphasis added.)



    An omission of such importance is startling given that, as the CBO report concedes, there are multiple reasons to believe Obamacare will reduce hiring, such as the penalty paid by mid-to large-level employers who don't offer Obamacare-approved health insurance. "That penalty will initially reduce employers' demand for labor and thereby tend to lower employment."



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    1. To pay such penalties, the report reiterates, "some employers might leave wages unchanged and instead employ a smaller workforce."



      Alternatively, the CBO says, "some employers will respond to the penalty by hiring fewer people at or just above the minimum wage -- an effect that would be similar to the impact of raising the minimum wage for those companies' employees."



      (So much for the myth that raising the minimum wage has little effect on hiring.)



      The report lays out the most logical scenario for employers facing potential penalties: "employers have an incentive, for example, to shift from hiring a single 40-hour, full-time employee to hiring two, 20-hour part-time employees to avoid bearing the costs of the penalty."



      Yet, the CBO report concludes that such hiring decisions would not affect the widely-reported 2.5 million jobs figure. "In the example just offered, the total amount of work is unaffected by the changes."



      Try telling that to workers who need a full-time job but only get hired part-time, due to Obamacare.



      Still, the CBO argues, "there is no compelling evidence that part-time employment has increased as a result of the ACA." (Emphasis added.)



      It's an artfully worded statement, dependent on the word, compelling. (More on that later.) And it depends -- in a quite Clintonian way -- on what the meaning of the word, is, is.



      Could it be that there is -- meaning currently, right now, today -- little "compelling" evidence about the impact of the employer mandate on jobs because the mandate hasn't taken effect yet, and keeps getting delayed? And that, by delaying it, the Obama administration is delaying the negative impact of Obamacare on jobs -- now until after they leave office?



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    2. Further, Obamacare drops the definition of full-time employee from forty hours a week to thirty hours a week. Thus, if an employee's hours are dropped, say, from 32 hours a week to 28 to avoid Obamacare requirements, the status remains part-time. Hours are reduced, but there's no change in the rate of part-time employment.



      And, apparently, the CBO doesn't find "compelling" that, as the report concedes, "the share of workers in part-time jobs has declined relatively slowly since the end of the recent recession" a period that corresponds to the passage of Obamacare. They argue that "the share of workers in part-time jobs generally declines slowly after recessions."



      But what about the many reports of employers cutting workers' hours to avoid Obamacare penalties? As Jed Graham at Investor's Business Daily has documented, hundreds of organizations have either done so, or plan to do so. The IBD list, an admittedly partial one at that, can be found here.



      Many of the organizations IBD has identified are public institutions: schools, colleges, and local governments. These organizations are covered by local news media, which are likely to report on such decisions as part of regular beat coverage. Most private companies are not regularly covered by media; their employment decisions are not likely to be reported. Not coincidentally, a new Obama diktat requiring firms to swear under oath that Obamacare did not limit their hiring makes public admissions all but impossible in the future.



      The CBO report concedes of "anecdotal reports of firms responding to the employer penalty by limiting workers' hours," but apparently doesn't find such evidence -- hundreds of organizations cutting hours -- to be "compelling."



      Then again, their hours aren't being cut.



      After virtually ignoring the impact Obamacare will have on employers, the CBO report still concludes that the equivalent of 2.5 million jobs will be lost, primarily because of workers who decide to cut back on work.



      The Obama propaganda machine would have us believe that's because these workers will no longer be stuck in "job lock." Obama agitprop tries to spin a tale of a workers' paradise in which these people will spend more time with family or pursue new hobbies, perhaps unaware that the future the apparatchiks describe -- of job "channels" and predictions of workers' behavior -- resonates of five-year plans and party congresses.



      However, what the CBO report actually says is that these workers will decide to work less because they will be hitting income thresholds, which will mean smaller Obamacare subsidies. Simply put, the CBO concludes that these folks won't want to work more and take home less.



      The CBO even admits that such an Obamacare subsidy structure "effectively raises people's marginal tax rates."



      There can be little doubt that the CBO report, and the media's coverage of it, presented the negative impact that Obamacare will have on jobs in the most favorable light, focusing on voluntary reduction on hours worked and discounting -- even refusing to include -- other channels through which Obamacare will force employers to slash many more jobs.



      Remember the quote, "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it?"



      Maybe we'll all learn what's in it, standing in the unemployment line.


      Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/02/cbo_obamacare_job_loss_worse_than_reported.html#ixzz2tFpYingS
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    3. I am "sourcing" my conclusion that ObamaCare is a BIG fuckup for the benefit of Ash, that good man.

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    4. Here is another source -

      http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/a_hard_look_at_obamacares_january_enrollment_numbers.html

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  56. A lame, and inevitably futile, attempt to mellow, if I may be so bold, Rufus out a little on ObamaCare -

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/frontpagemag-com/video-hitler-finds-out-he-cant-keep-his-doctor-under-obamacare/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1a19db9aca-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-1a19db9aca-156481579

    Check out 2:51......

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  57. Fourteen Million, Four Hundred and Fifty Thousand Americans Now Have Healthcare (14,450,000 )

    ACA Signups

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    1. Fourteen Million, Four Hundred and Fifty Thousand Citizens

      that will now have the same access to life-saving healthcare that pathetic, old, white, racist republicans have when THEY are diagnosed with Prostate Cancer, or when THEY undergo Heart Attacks, and Strokes.

      How does one who's getting life-saving cancer treatment, paid for by Medicare, begrudge decent healthcare for his fellow human beings? How?

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