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Friday, October 12, 2012

Imagine being stuck on an eight hour flight next to Joe Biden


POLL: CNN Poll: Who won the VP debate?

Regardless of which candidate you happen to support, who do you think did the best job in the debate - Joe Biden or Paul Ryan?

Ryan
48%
Biden
44%
Source: CNN/ORC International
Date conducted: 10/11/2012
Sample: 381 registered voters who watched the debate
Margin of error: +/- 5% pts

106 comments:

  1. .

    True. But then, we knew that going in.

    The CNN poll? Margin of error of 5. Basically meaningless.

    But don't they usually say that the VP debate is meaningless anyway, sometimes entertaining but not changing any minds? Anyway, that's what I seem to remember but I could be wrong.

    What the debate did do was illustrate once again what we are offered up as political leaders in country of 320 million.

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    1. A nitwit came out of the stock pen last night, and that's for sure.

      Buck

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  2. Biden’s mugging and his inappropriate derisive laugh were as phony as his urinal white porcelain full toothed smile. He was distasteful in the extreme. Ryan was far from impressive. He is ten years short and it showed. Biden was an easy target and should have been dispatched with ease. There is nothing to get giddy about. It was a dreary example of American political mediocrity.

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  3. q said something about meek etc about Ryan...

    It's obvious the strategy was to not engage w/a moron and risk looking a bit that way in the process.

    Everyone who's been paying any attention at all knows that Ryan is the ONLY GOP pol to directly confront and call Obama on his BS back when Barrack had him sit in the front row and proceed to dress him just like he did Alito and Co.

    No point engaging in this setting.

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  4. 43. bvw

    I have to be a bit parochial here. Parochial because Biden’s uber-smile smirk, demeaning interjections and mocking was a particularly parochial argumentative style. It’s a style from Philly. Also to be more specific Biden’s performance was meant to send mega-leg tickles down Chris Matthews leg. I think that’s why Biden made the many references to Tip O’Neill — working for Tip as a top aide was Chris Matthews’ career highlight. Pleasing Chris Matthews meant that MSNBC and the union and bureaucrat thug wing of the base would be happy.

    The Philly Catholic School schools produce a largely Irish-Italian work product of graduates who love that mocking, bully, gotcha style of debate and consider it manly and potent. Not only the incessant mocking, laughing and smirking are characteristic — but the short-cut “That’s just BS!” method of rejoinder. There’s really nothing to ponder or consider, it’s just the aggressive assertion of infallible doctrine that you MUST accept and support — that’s the whole of such an argument, period. Get with the group. The Philly area unions are full of such swaggering bluster in leaders and thugs.

    Berserker? Sure, sure, that’s an interesting take. But we all know that really its just Philly Union Thug style. PERIOD. Anything else is just a load of it.

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  5. Also, anyone paying any attention at all knows that when Obama/Biden/Clinton continue to claim they did not know what really happened in Libya for weeks know this is a bald faced LIE.

    CNN and Laura Logan certainly aren't buying and propagating it.

    ...but what does she know about the Religion of Peace?

    Fuckin Subhuman Scum

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  6. When Lara Logan of CBS News stepped before a packed Chicago ballroom last week, she quickly corrected the newspaper editor who introduced her by noting she’d warned him not to “screw up” the introduction.

    No, she told the annual lunch of the Better Government Association, she asked him not to “fuck it up.”

    Lara Logan, the chief foreign affairs correspondent for CBS News, last week at the News & Documentary Emmy Awards in New York. (Marc Bryan-Brown / Getty Images)

    That jest set the tone for a provocative address before 1,100 in which the foreign correspondent and 60 Minutes star skewered American policy in Afghanistan and Libya, called for a ramped-up military campaign against terrorists, and criticized the Obama administration and others for both underestimating the Taliban’s strength in Afghanistan and for tolerating Pakistan’s obvious coddling of terrorists killing American soldiers.

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  7. Vice President Joe Biden claimed that the administration wasn't aware of requests for more security in Libya before the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi during Thursday night's debate, contradicting two State Department officials and the former head of diplomatic security in Libya.

    "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security there," Biden said.

    In fact, two security officials who worked for the State Department in Libya at the time testified Thursday that they repeatedly requested more security and two State Department officials admitted they had denied those requests.

    "All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources," the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, Eric Nordstrom, testified. "In those conversations, I was specifically told [by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb] ‘You cannot request an SST extension.' I determined I was told that because there would be too much political cost. We went ahead and requested it anyway."

    Nordstrom was so critical of the State Department's reluctance to respond to his calls for more security that he said, "For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building."

    "We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met," testified Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team in Libya until August.

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) released the unclassified cables containing those requests.

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  8. Matt Taibbi on the June Senate hearings with Jamie Dimon:

    It would be one thing if this had been a bunch of hick congressmen from the plains asking a panel of MIT professors about, say, ozone depletion, or the potential dangers of nuclear fallout. But these were members of the Senate Banking Committee, asking Dimon questions as though he were an alien from another world: "Tell us, Mr. CEO, what is this ‘derivative trading’ to which you refer? How long has it been in use on your planet?" The whole tenor of the proceeding was incredibly embarrassing, and showed just how unlikely it is that you’ll ever get anything like real questioning in a Senate hearing when a) the level of general expertise among the members is so shamefully low, and b) the witness is a man who controls millions of dollars of campaign contributions.

    It's not FDR's White House anymore. Another sound bite getting extended play from the Big Interview yesterday is Erskine Bowles' estimate of a one-third chance equally distributed among three possible outcomes: nothing is done, something happens but too late, or Congress writes it's own Spike Lee "Do the Right Thing" movie. Sobering skepticism.

    More on Dimon's exposure here:

    Crimmins prediction, that JP Morgan would try to blame traders for the position marks, has proven to be correct. Tonight, the lead story in the New York Times business section is “At JPMorgan, an Inquiry Built on Tapes,” with this as the summary:

    Investigators examining a multibillion-dollar trading loss at JPMorgan Chase are focusing on calls in which employees openly discussed how to value troubled bets in a favorable way.

    So the press is taking the JP Morgan party line that that exculpates management, when it doesn’t, particularly when JP Morgan’s practice was so radically out of line with industry norms.

    Why does Wall St dislike Obama?

    Sheila Bair has one answer.


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  9. Excellent image.

    But, this morning, I can't help but think of q, not Biden, in regards to it.....


    b

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  10. Talk about a shit eating grin.

    Damn rodeo clowns, q and Biden.

    Buck

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  11. One thing we can say is Congress has provided themselves with at least passable dentistry.

    b

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  12. Another One Bites the Dust:

    Lance Armstrong's oft-repeated claim that he'd never tested positive for doping was the result of some elaborate masking techniques—and some less-sophisticated methods, like hiding from testers, according to a US Anti-Doping Agency report. Cyclists have to keep national anti-doping groups updated on their whereabouts. But if they simply don't answer the door when testers come to call, they can avoid getting a warning from officials. Armstrong also frequently holed himself up in a remote Spanish hotel, making it "virtually certain" he wouldn't face tests, the agency says.

    Armstrong's masking techniques included using saline smuggled by a doctor to make blood values appear normal. In other cases, the cyclist used hormones and blood doping techniques that were untraceable at the time. Later, more advanced retesting offered "resoundingly positive values," the report said, according to the New York Times. Of course, Armstrong wasn't the only one doping, and the report adds that team members' wives and girlfriends were aware of it, the Wall Street Journal reports. Some tried to reveal the cyclists' illicit activities, but Armstrong's ex-wife, Kristin, was complicit in the scheme, the report says. She called it a "necessary evil," Betsy Andreu, wife of cyclist Frankie, said in an affidavit.

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  13. In the interests of promoting honest debate:

    As a generational matter, we pass a whole economy, society and environment to our children. Unless we have given them a really bad education, they would be crazy to opt for a government with a lower national debt in exchange for a weaker economy, a worse infrastructure or more damaged environment. As a practical matter, the sharp upturn in productivity growth in 1995 has virtually assured our children and grandchildren that they will enjoy far higher living standards than anything we could have done by way of lower deficits (and thereby boosting investment) had productivity growth remained at its much slower pre-1995 rate. (The fact that longstanding deficit hawks like Peter Peterson never acknowledge the impact of this uptick on productivity growth suggests that their agenda has little to do with the living standards of future generations.)

    http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/children-and-grandchilden-do-not-pay-for-budget-deficits-they-get-interest-on-the-bonds

    Why does Wall St dislike Obama?


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  14. Prelude to Hanging Chads, The Return:

    [begin cite]

    So, who's right about today's jobless claims number?

    It seems everyone's right!

    Jobless claims were better than expected, even after adjusting for a possible unusual anomaly
    There may have been an unusual anomaly that made this week's jobless claims look better than they would otherwise have been.

    UPDATE: In response to our story, California's Employment Development Director issued a statement saying the state "has reported all UI claims data and submitted the date on time." A spokesperson for the department also offered an alternative explanation for the drop in California's unemployment claims: "Our weather has been unusually warm which has had some typical seasonal patterns in employment delayed."

    The California spokesperson also demanded a "retraction" of what the Labor Department told us. We accurately reported what the Labor Department told us, so we stand by our story. In a follow-up exchange, we asked the spokesperson how California could be sure it had submitted all of its claims on time. The spokesperson did not respond to the question. She simply reiterated that the Labor Department analyst we spoke to was "wrong."

    [end cite]

    Looks like we're gonna need more monkeys.

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    1. I'm thinking he BLS simply said that it was a "large state" that didn't report some backlogged claims.

      The assumption was that it was probably Calfornia inasmuch as the claims number was so low compared to what was expected.

      Obviously, Texas, New York, Fla, Illinois, and several others would also qualify as "large" states.

      I would still expect to see a Large Number next thursday.

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  15. Deuce is Bond cool on steroids. Rufus is mad at Obama because cool and intellectually aloof doesn't win elections. Deuce hates Obama for reasons of his own. Gag Reflex hates Obama from the removed perch of disdain where he practices new doggie tricks. Kindly stop it. Obama is being savaged for reasons that have little to do with policy or substance. Wall St wants Obama out and Romney in. Pretty simple. Neither subtlety nor sophistication required.

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    1. Rufus is just irritated/frustrated/pick one.

      We'll start getting an idea in tomorrow's tracking polls about how the VP debate went. I have a hunch it will tell a different tale than CNN's so-called scientific poll about who "won the debate."

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    2. Doggie tricks? Kindly bite me.

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    The Norwegian committee has awarded the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize to the European Union, as in the confederation of 27 countries, in Europe.

    "The main message is that we need to keep in mind what we have achieved on this continent, and not let the continent go into disintegration again," said Thorbjørn Jagland, head of the Nobel committee.



    Need we say more?


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    Obama is being savaged for reasons that have little to do with policy or substance.

    :)

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  18. The GOP has lurched far into ignorance/intolerance-land. I would hate to see that rewarded with a win at the polls.

    Ruth Ginsberg's age starts to loom large. I really don't want to see the party of backwardation, and fundamentalism pick the next Supreme Ct. Judge.

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    1. And which appointee by Obama produces eye glint?

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    2. I don't want Roe relitigated, Deuce. Nor, the Civil Rights advances that the country has made. I would like to see another strong Liberal replace Ginsberg.

      I kind of like a Court such as we have now (one that can go either way.)

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    3. And if BHO is re-elected, it will stay that way.

      That really makes a lot of sense.

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  19. The WS CEOs know Obama is going to raise their taxes.

    What they overlook (or, maybe they just don't care) is that the odds are that "their companies" will do better under a Democratic Administration. History is quite clear in this regard.

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  20. Romney has picked up the much-coveted Lindsey Lohan endorsement.

    She says "if she's out of jail on Nov 6 she might vote for him (if she's, actually, like, registered, you know? How does that work, btw?")

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  21. Very Large Jump in Consumer Confidence (5 points.)

    Kinda reinforces the lower unemployment, and jobless claims data.


    Or maybe the lyin', cheatin', dirty Obama forces got to the University of Michigan folks.

    University of Michigan - Consumer Confidence Survey

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  22. In case you doubted the value of Nobel Peace Prize, please relax. The EU won the prize. No joke. Why not award it to the Moon for its many years of hosting The Sea of Tranquility?

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  23. From the CNN Website:

    SPECIAL NOTE OF CAUTION #2: The sample of debate-watchers in this poll were 31% Democratic and 33% Republican. That indicates that the sample of debate watchers is about eight points more Republican than an average CNN poll of all Americans, so the respondents were more Republican than the general public.

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  24. If the split had been 35 D - 29 R (the National Number) the Biden Vote would have probably been more like 44 X (35/31) or 49.6 and Ryan's number would be 48 X (29/33) or 42.2

    Adjusted for reality numbers:

    Biden 49.6

    Ryan 42.2

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      Adjusted for reality numbers:


      Don't you mean alternate reality numbers?

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  25. Rasmussen Reports ...
    Nationally it is 48% for Romney, 47% for Obama.
    Obama leads in Ohio.

    If the election were held today, Obama wins.

    In spite of who 'WON' a 'debate'.

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  26. As to bumper stickers, there are 'some' Obama in the Phoenix metro area, fewer Romney/Ryan.

    Up on the mountain, in Mormon country, more Romey/Ryan

    If bumper stickers were an accurate indicator, Obama would carry AZ.
    Rasmussen says 'No Way'

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  27. If bumper stickers were an accurate indicator, no one would know...

    Gary Johnson - 2012

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    1. That boy, Jeff Flake, has run into a little bit of a buzzsaw out there, hasn't he Rat?

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    2. Yep, the opponent in the Primary painted him as an admitted liar, that had become a career politico.

      The Mormon brigades from the mountain region took him to the nomination.

      Then he ran into a real opponent. A Siver Star receprient from the 'Nam. A Special Forces medic. Two Purple Hearts.

      George Bush's Surgen General.

      Fella I'll be voting for.

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    3. Yea, I'm going Starship Trooper.
      If a veteran is running especially from a shooting war, he/she gets my vote.

      Showed the ability to sacrifice self for a greater cause. That's a qualifier neither Romney nor Obama exhibit.

      Won't vote for either of them.
      Though now Obama is a vet, almoust four years time in service.

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  28. We're getting to the point in the cycle, I think, that you can start to take the RCP Average to the bank. Obama would win, Today, but one more stumble, and he can start getting his things packed.

    Biden did him some good last night, but the VP can't carry him over the finish line. He's got to do that, himself.

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  29. The Books are closed on Fiscal Year 2012, and the Republic ran a SURPLUS in Sept of $75 Billion.

    The Federal Government spent $61 Billion LESS$146 Billion More.

    Treasury Statement

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    1. Should have been, "Spent $61 Billion Less, and Took In $146 Billion More than in 2011.

      Still some work to do, but looking better.

      Oh, and Social Security ran another sizable ($66.2 Billion) Surplus.

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  30. There's that Obama, messing with the narrative

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  31. That turnaround in Sept was Big. From a $62 Billion Deficit in Sept 2011, to a $75 Billion Surplus in 2012.

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  32. Reuters/Ipsos Debate Poll:

    Biden 42

    Ryan 35


    3 for 3

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  33. Dumber and dumber.

    How's the water down their, Rufie?

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    1. Do you contend all the links on Drudge are made up?

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    2. I don't go to Drudge often, any more. It is getting down into the national enquirer/american thinker category.

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    3. I forgot:

      You're a Socialist True Believer:

      This time it's gonna work, honest.

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    4. Social Security works pretty good. Medicare works pretty good. Our farm programs have worked pretty well. Medicaid does a good job. We have a Military, and an FBI. The Blue States send money to the Red States through Block Grants.

      I guess you're right; I guess I am a Socialist.

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  35. Smart Ad-Hocracy

    The State Department’s Victoria Nuland’s briefing with reporters shows how careful she must be. Those who want to watch the video of her briefing can view it here. Take the killling of a Yemeni security agent employed by the Embassy. Even though the New York Times reports that “a senior Yemeni officer working in the United States Embassy in Sana was killed here in the capital on Thursday in an attack that security sources said bore the hallmarks of the regional franchise of al-Qaeda” Nuland had to make the following statement.


    QUESTION: Does that mean that you don’t know if he was targeted because he was an employee? This could have been – as far as you know, this could have been just a random act of crime – criminality?

    MS. NULAND: It could – he could have been killed for reasons that had something to do with his job or reasons that had nothing to do with his job.

    The carefulness was evident elsewhere. In an extraordinary exchange Ms. Nuland was asked by reporters why even though the State Department knew or strongly suspected that the attack on the Benghazi consulate was planned from the first they deferred to higher authorities who insisted a video might have something to do with it.


    QUESTION: And yet Under Secretary Kennedy and other people in this building knew, or felt in their opinion, that that was not correct, and that this was –

    MS. NULAND: I’m not going to get into the personal feelings of anybody. I’m simply going to say that in making public statements, one depends on the totality of what the Administration knows.

    QUESTION: But you didn’t. You never said that.

    MS. NULAND: Look, I’m generally dumber than most of the rest of the government. I mean, that’s what I’m paid to be. (Laughter.)

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  36. My Comment:

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    "MS. NULAND: Look, I’m generally dumber than most of the rest of the government. I mean, that’s what I’m paid to be. (Laughter.)"
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    Isn't that what Biden gets paid to be?

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    I knew their was a simple truism I was missing last night about Ryan's performance:

    When someone's making an ass of themselves, stay out of his/her way.


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  37. Rufus II Fri Oct 12, 12:12:00 PM EDT

    I don't want Roe relitigated, Deuce. Nor, the Civil Rights advances that the country has made. I would like to see another strong Liberal replace Ginsberg.

    I kind of like a Court such as we have now (one that can go either way.)

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    ...And if BHO is re-elected, it will stay that way.

    That really makes a lot of sense.

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    1. All the old, sickly farts are Libs, Doug. Or, haven't you noticed?

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    2. But, there is a possibility that a Conservative Justice could have a heart attack, or get run over by a bus, so I guess I have to admit that I'd rather have a liberal, forward-looking Court, than a backward-looking Conservative one.

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    3. RCP Average 10/1 - 10/11 -- -- 47.3 46.3 Romney +1.0
      Rasmussen Tracking 10/9 - 10/11 1500 LV 3.0 48 47 Romney +1
      Monmouth/SurveyUSA/Braun 10/8 - 10/10 1360 LV 2.7 47 46 Romney +1
      IBD/TIPP Tracking 10/6 - 10/11 837 LV 3.5 46 46 Tie
      Gallup Tracking 10/5 - 10/11 2700 LV 2.0 49 47 Romney +2
      FOX News 10/7 - 10/9 1109 LV 3.0 46 45 Romney +1
      Pew Research 10/4 - 10/7 1112 LV 3.4 49 45 Romney +4
      WashTimes/JZ Analytics* 10/5 - 10/7 800 LV 3.5 45 45 Tie
      Politico/GWU/Battleground 10/1 - 10/4 1000 LV 3.1 48 49 Obama +1



      You can't always get what you want.

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    4. Anthony McLeod Kennedy (born July 23, 1936)

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      Yeah, BHO's selection would be a swing voter too.

      My ass.

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  38. I can see Blow Out Coming, D.C. from my window on Tensleep Creek, Wyoming.

    Obama is roasted, like the elk meat we're eating tonight.

    Dang that Q fellow is weird.

    Buck Buckett

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  39. You got it, Buck. Look what's happening in Ohio --

    SIDNEY, Ohio (AP) -- The crowds tell the story. As Election Day nears, Mitt Romney is drawing large and excited throngs.

    Look to dusty Iowa cornfields, rain-soaked Virginia parks, the muddy fields of the Shelby County Fairgrounds, where a crowd of 9,500 - almost half of this western Ohio town - gathered among the barns and stables on a frigid October evening this week to glimpse the Republican presidential contender.

    "Where else would we want to be?" said one of the shivering faithful, Judy Cartwright, a 71-year-old nurse from Sidney. "I want to see the next president of the United States."

    Romney's debate performance against President Barack Obama last week - and his energetic appearances following it up - have fueled a rise in enthusiasm on the campaign trail. Whether or not it will translate into votes, polls do suggest that Republicans are fired up. It's a welcome development for the Republican businessman, who is hardly a natural politician and has long struggled to match Obama's ability to inspire excitement.

    In Virginia, for example, Republican leaning counties appear to be getting the fastest start on absentee voting ahead of Election Day. State Board of Elections data analyzed by the Virginia Public Access Project, a nonprofit and nonpartisan tracker of money in state politics, shows that of the 25 localities where absentee voting is busiest, 21 voted Republican in the 2008 presidential race. And of the 25 localities where absentee balloting is the slowest so far, 16 supported Obama.


    I can hear the crowds cheering from here.

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  40. Video of Former Boss on Flake's OpponentRichard Carmona

    Cristina Beato, a former Health and Human Services acting assistant secretary, spoke directly to the camera: "There was an angry pounding on the door, in the middle of the night. I'm a single mom. I feared for my kids and for myself. It was Richard Carmona and I was his boss."

    Carmona, a Democrat who previously was a lifelong independent, including when he was President George W. Bush's Surgeon General from 2002-2006, clashed with his boss, Beato, throughout his tenure. The controversy led to a 2007 investigation by the Democratic-led Congress. Carmona said then that he was being targeted and silenced for raising questions about stem cell research and other science-related issues.

    The Carmona campaign responded to the ad, calling the allegations "false" and painted Beato as a "partisan who was caught trying to politicize science."

    "Congressman Flake's decision to run this false ad is deplorable and shows how desperate he is," campaign manager Alexis Tameron wrote in a statement.

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    1. Why didn't he charge her with Slander if it was a lie?

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    2. Because, dougo, he is a 'Public Figurr' and as such cannot be slandered. Then 'charging' is a criminal case, he'd haveeeeee to sue in civil court, and because of his running for Senate, the case would be dismissed.

      Moron

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  41. Rufus II said...

    "I guess I have to admit that I'd rather have a liberal, forward-looking Court, than a backward-looking Conservative one."

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    Yep, the Constitution is living and breathing.

    ...a monster created by Demented Old Dead White Men.

    ...fucking Traitor

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    1. A "traitor" to who, Doug?

      You?

      A Constitution that Codified that Negoes were 3/5ths of a human?

      Or, the Country I Went To War to Protect?

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    2. The 3/5 Compromise was a political negotiation by the South to acheive more voting power in the national legislature.

      They used the (possibly real) threat of alliance with the British (the South liked the economic business they had with the British), as well as the threat that a country fractured between North and South would eventually succumb to one or more of the old empires (Britain, France and Spain) to achieve the 3/5 Compromise.

      These threats were used as leverage to achieve voting power in the legislature for slaves , of course these new votes would be cast in their masters' interest.

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    3. Then, I'll ask again; Traitor to "Who?"

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    4. Do you think Dred Scott was decided wrong?

      Or, was the 14th Amendment a mistake?

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    5. Dred Scott was in 1857, btw.

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    6. Now Rufus has on his Constitutional Professor hat.

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  42. How about Plessy v Ferguson?

    It was in 1896.

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  43. How about korematsu v. United States

    1944

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  44. Do ANY of the Conservative Justices Support a return to Slavery?

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    1. It makes equally good sense to ask, Do any of the Cherokee support a return to Slavery?

      Ans: on both counts, of course not, neither the Cherokee or the Court.

      But Rufus has to fart and blow about something every hour.

      A better question is to ask for a definition of modern slavery over against the state. Are we slipping in to a modern slavery, with ObamaCare, etc, etc.

      Are we selling the Constitution, which now is applicable to everyone, short?

      But Ruf wants to show off about Dred Scott.




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    2. I'm not sure, exactly, what Scalia supports, but I have a hunch that a fair number of folks might be shocked at some of his thoughts.

      The way I see it is, the Liberal Justices tend to want to ADD TO individual rights, whereas the conservatives seem to lean toward restricting rights.

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    3. Or as BHO puts it:

      Positive rights versus "negative rights"

      ...turning reserving all other rights not granted to the people and the States upside down.

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      Birds of a feather.

      Two fucking Traitors.

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    4. Oh, States Rights? Really? How did you feel about Brown v. Board of Education?

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    5. I'm NOT a "Cherokee," Bob. I'm an American of mixed origin, and a Veteran of a Foreign War. A War I Volunteered to fight.

      I kind of resent being called a Traitor.

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    6. I didn't call you a traitor. Just foolish. And you're the one that brought up your heritage. You called me a racist, denigrated the idea of thinking culture counts. So, I retaliate and mention the history of slavery among the Cherokee. To dismount you from your high horse. We are all Americans of mixed origins. Every last one of us. And you go back far enough, we all have common ancestors. Everybody knows this.

      One more Obama court appointee, and you have no more 2nd Amendment rights.

      At one time, I remember you saying, without the 2nd Amendment, we have nothing. That is what you will get. Nothing.

      And so I think you are a fool of the first order voting for someone who will eagerly take your own rights away, leaving you with nothing.

      That is my basic argument.

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    7. All Obama has done is Expand 2nd Amendment Rights. Twice!

      Romney, as Governor, just the opposite.

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      Twice.

      Here and in Mexico.

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    9. One vote, in the United States Supreme Court.

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  45. How bout Put Up v. Shut Up?

    Buck

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  46. How bout just shut up?

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  47. ie:
    Our History was not perfect, but the result was the Greatest Country in the World.
    For Freedom
    Not the Slavery that always results from Socialism.

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  48. Dougo, Romn.ey will lose HI, are your neighbors traitors, too?

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  49. Are all the Blue States socialist for subsidizing the Red States, or are the Red States the socialist nirvana?

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  50. At GSI baiiin Capital used government funding to finance the initial purchase and used Federal funds to make their pensions whole, in bankruptcy.

    Does thnat make Mitt Romney a Socialist?

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    1. Are you a socialist because you worked for the 'Federal Socialists'?

      Or, just an opportunist?

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  51. Poll: Romney Opens 7-Point Lead in Florida
    Alana Goodman | @alanagoodman 10.12.2012 - 12:00 PM

    Mitt Romney’s 7-point lead in the TBT/Herald/Mason-Dixon poll is the latest sign of a Florida surge:

    The survey conducted this week found 51 percent of likely Florida voters supporting Romney, 44 percent backing Obama and 4 percent undecided. That’s a major shift from a month ago when the same poll showed Obama leading 48 percent to 47 percent — and a direct result of what Obama himself called a “bad night” at the first debate.

    The debate prompted 5 percent of previously undecided voters and 2 percent of Obama backers to move to Romney. Another 2 percent of Obama supporters said they are now undecided because of the debate.

    Any poll that shows a shift as significant as this one should be taken with caution. But there are other indications that there’s strong momentum behind Romney in Florida, including today’s Rasmussen (which shows Romney +4) and ARG (which shows Romney +3). There’s also the assessment of the Suffolk University pollsters, who pulled out of Florida, Virginia and North Carolina this week after saying Romney has already definitively locked up these states.



    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/10/12/poll-romney-opens-7-point-lead-in-florida/

    The others are beginning to catch up with BubblePlumbPolling.

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  52. Do you know how much Federal Spending has increased since the last Bush Budget, 2009?

    0.0048

    One Half of One Percent.

    Treasury Statement

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  53. http://patdollard.com/2012/07/dick-morris-reveals-how-obama-will-kill-the-2nd-amendment-on-july-27/

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-could-nullify-the-2nd-amendment/


    http://reason.com/blog/2012/07/26/obama-still-thinks-the-second-amendment


    http://graphics.nra.org/chriscox/PVF204ObamaFactSheetInsert.pdf


    and dozens more


    And that is just about the 2nd Amendment.


    His view is the Constitution is basically a flawed document, historically out of date, and needs to be junked.


    John Lott reports Obama told him people shouldn't have guns --

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/07/27/Fellow-Chicago-Professor-Says-Obama-Told-Him-He-Doesnt-believe-in-gun-ownership

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