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Thursday, April 12, 2012

Zimmerman charged with 2nd degree murder






What affect will this have on the election?



  • What happens if Zimmerman is exonerated? 
  • Will the rioting begin? 
  • Has anyone heard a word about the white student murdered by three blacks in Mississippi?
  • Why is AJ Eric Holder meeting and praising Al Towanna Sharpton?


79 comments:

  1. JACKSONVILLE - Those who know State Attorney Angela Corey say she's never buckled under public pressure.

    "If you're being prosecuted by her, you need to be scared and you need to get the best defensive lawyer you can find," said Tampa defense attorney Joe Episcopo.

    During her 26 years as a prosecutor, she has tried hundred cases, which have included 54 homicides.

    She was elected state attorney in 2008, and she has a reputation as a tough, aggressive lawyer.

    "She made that through her prosecutions of homicides, and by the fact that she prosecuted a 12 year old that caused international uproar—it didn't bother her a bit," Episcopo said.

    Episcopo was referring to 12-year-old Cristian Fernandez, who was accused of killing his 2-year-old brother.

    Some called her an "overzealous prosecutor" for charges against Fernandez. She fought for a life sentence for him, and succeeded in getting him tried as an adult. The case is still pending.

    LINK: More on the Cristian Fernandez case .

    Aside from putting bad guys in prison, Corey also finds the time to teach. With her extensive experience in homicide cases, she's often invited to speak to law enforcement agencies all over the country.

    "She's a teacher at the police academy at Florida State and she's a professor at Florida Coastal University. So she's got some teaching credentials behind that tough prosecutor image, which means she knows the law, she teaches the law," Episcopo said.

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  2. How many coons on the jury?

    Before Roof gets his Cherokee panties in a
    wad

    I can tell you here

    The lawyers would ask

    Black and White both

    How many coons on the jury?


    OJ?

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    1. It's about time to drop the ban-hammer on this asshole. Again.

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  3. The mistake Zimmerman made was not to insist on charges being files on the newly dead Trayvon Martin for assault and battery and attempted murder. Followed by a civil suit against his parents for dereliction of parental duty.

    When in that situation Zimmerman should have insisted on going to a hospital and also documenting publically his injuries.

    He should have also made a public statement at that time announcing what a criminal Trayvon was.

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  4. Naw, the mistake he made was pretending/believing he was a law enforcement officer.

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  5. he never pretended to be anything by a citizen that accepts the responsibility of citizenship. Something you do not know, understand or accept...

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  6. community watch organizations are legal, moral and needed in many areas

    a citizen that contributes to the safety of his or her community should be honored not insulted.

    the area that mr zimmerman lived had 268 crimes in 1/2 mile radius in the last 6 months.

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    1. The first post by Deuce is humorous. She didn't cave to public pressure. Right.


      I think Z should walk but if he does or not will depend on the number of blacks on the jury.

      It is a r e a l l y good case if you are an up and coming lawyer.

      Name maker of a case.

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    2. Free Z



      The first post by Deuce is humorous. She didn't cave to public pressure. Right.


      I think Z should walk but if he does or not will depend on the number of blacks on the jury.

      It is a r e a l l y good case if you are an up and coming lawyer.

      Name maker of a case.

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  8. The operative word is "watch".

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    1. He was watching. Even called 911 he was watching so much.

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  9. .

    This is from a lengthy brochure on Neighborhood Watch put out by the National Sheriff's Association,


    Patrol Procedures
    1. The patrol should be well defined.

    2. Only residents of the defined community, at least 18 years
    old, should participate in the patrol.

    3. Patrol members must have participated in a training session.

    [Note: Zimmereman did take a training session which included a slide and instructions on what his responsibilities were and 'were not'.]

    4. A patrol team should consist of two people: a driver and an
    observer in the patrol vehicle or two neighbors walking
    together. A vehicle may be marked with a removable sign.

    5. The purpose of community patrol is to observe and report
    only. Patrol members should not leave their vehicle or
    become involved with a suspect.


    6. Patrol members do not possess police powers. Each member
    is liable as an individual for civil and criminal charges
    should he exceed his authority.


    7. Patrol members should not challenge anyone. The patrol’s
    visual presence should be a deterrent to most criminal
    activity. If a suspicious situation continues, patrol members
    should call law enforcement professionals and request
    assistance.


    8. Patrol members should not pursue vehicles (except briefly)
    to get the license number. They should not attempt to
    enforce traffic laws.


    9. Patrol members should patrol as designated, in a random
    fashion, and at varied times rather than in an observable
    pattern.

    10. Patrol members may not drink alcoholic beverages while on
    patrol nor report for patrol if they have been drinking.

    11. Patrol members do not carry weapons.

    12. Any members violating patrol procedures may be banned
    from participation in the community patrol.


    13. Patrol members should take notes of suspicious situations
    on log sheets. The notes may become evidence if a situation
    becomes a criminal matter. A copy of the notes could
    be turned over to the Block Captain and the original kept by
    the patrol member. (The notes may be needed later for the
    patrol member to refresh his memory.)

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    1. I am safer here in retro Idaho than you are there Quirk.


      Come on out daughter and I will look after you.


      We really don't care what the patrol rules say, we pack 'n carry like is our right under Idaho law.

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    2. All you need to do is count the number of blacks on the jury, then you will know the fate of Z.

      This is called the rule of law.



      Free Z Now!

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  10. .

    You would be hard pressed to find anyone here who would have anything positive to say about Holder.

    The lack of coverage on the student shot in Mississippi as opposed to that in the Martin case points out the double standard and hypocrisy that exists in this country on issues of race.

    Obama commenting on the Martin case was purely political, an appeal to the base.

    That being said, up to this point it does not appear Holder and the DOJ will get involved in the Martin case by designating it a hate crime.

    As I recall, in the Sanderson case, the three blacks were arrested and charged with capital murder inside of a week. It took six weeks for Zimmerman to be charged, and frankly, it only appears it happened because of the public outcry that was raised.

    The more I see the details of the FL. law, the more I think it sucks.

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  11. And the silence re the Tulsa killings at this bar is telling.

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    1. Really, where was your comment expressing your indignation?

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    2. I just checked the spam filter. Not there.

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    3. Maybe you better re-calibrate your indignation meter. These things do get sticky.

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    4. Of course in your case, your silence is “not telling”?

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  12. nothing to tell, to people were arrested for a pure killing, one was insane with rage.

    nothing to get up in arms about, 2 people are in jail for murder.

    could not care if the people happen to be white that did the killings, they needed to be in jail and they are...

    that case is clear...

    zimmermans aint...

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  13. One man couldn't destroy this country if he tried, not even Obama. On the other hand, the example of letting the chief law enforcement officer in the nation walk away from lying under oath could. Holder is a national disgrace.

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  14. The Tulsa shootings are as relevant to the Zimmerman case as the Mississippi killings are.

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  15. If the black kid was on top of Zimmerman and beating the hell out of him I don't see how the 'Florida Law' even applies.

    At that point he pulled out the gun and fought back with what came to hand.


    Simple self defense.

    Even Ash would pull the trigger if he was getting hell beat out of him.

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      Simple self defense.



      If this case ends up on TV, Bob, I suggest you watch it. You might actually learn something about the law.


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  16. The fact is, Bob is starting to get into his racist mode, again, and quite simply, it brings shame on us all. I think it's time for bob to take another "walkabout."

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      Perhaps, The American Thinker has a comment section he could post to. If not, Dale might be able to introduce him to one of his conspiracy blogs.

      The obvious advantage for Bob would be no one would notice all his double and triple posting since all his comments would consist of would be "Ditto".


      :)


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  17. I wish to be able to walk down the street, like the blacks can do here, in safety.

    I am tired of it Ruf. It has been 150 years since my folk fought and freed the slaves.

    My wife's home in Ohio is on the Freedom Railroad.

    Her ancestors sang Methodist freedom hymns.

    Go fuck yourself Rufus.

    I will tell you the difference here between when the reds were in charge, and now the whites - through I might add the democratic process.

    If you got in an argument when it was red land and you won and killed the other fellow you were head man of the village.

    Since we have been been if you kill someone it is Boise State Prison.

    Even a stick like you can understand this.

    I wish to walk down the street in freedom.

    And not be hasseled by a bunch of black thugs.

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    1. 150 years and they can't grow up

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  18. Bob wrote This: "Down in the southland, where the niggers sought freedom," two threads back, and now he writes "How many coons on the jury?"

    Left unresponded to this behavior will only get worse. I think bob needs to quit posting for awhile.

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  19. I wish to be able to walk down the street, like the blacks can do here, in safety.

    I am tired of it Ruf. It has been 150 years since my folk fought and freed the slaves.

    My wife's home in Ohio is on the Freedom Railroad.

    Her ancestors sang Methodist freedom hymns.

    Go fuck yourself Rufus.

    I will tell you the difference here between when the reds were in charge, and now the whites - through I might add the democratic process.

    If you got in an argument when it was red land and you won and killed the other fellow you were head man of the village.

    Since we have been been if you kill someone it is Boise State Prison.

    Even a stick like you can understand this.

    I wish to walk down the street in freedom.

    And not be hasseled by a bunch of black thugs.

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  20. Bob is a boob and never worth consideration.

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    1. I like "boobs"

      Ash your not liking "boobs" is another reason we have nothing in common...

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  21. And, I want to be able to hang out with people I'm not ashamed of.

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  22. Fuck you you dumb bastard go roll off the bar stool and join the Marines and go kill some people and call everyone else a coward.


    You, Rufus, are the definition of ignoramus.

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    1. Do it then Rufus.

      Your truck was created by white people.

      Go drive round.

      Your computer was created by white people.

      You Cherokee slaves were freed by us.

      You are a moron.

      A total ignoramus.

      Go drink some ethanol and whiskey maybe you will die.

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    2. I remember Lola.

      Father was minister to the Nez Perce.

      "It is hard to bring light to darkness."

      We created the Court House, Rufus you dumb fuck.

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  23. I thought that I was the house coward for joining the USAF. How soon we are forgotten.

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  24. Speaking of the forgotten, is Desert Rat still alive?

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    1. I dunno but I thought of him when bob made a spurious post above about keeping his daughter safe.

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  25. (CNSNews.com) - Speaking Friday at what the administration called “The White House Forum on Women and the Economy,” President Barack Obama said that after his two daughters were born, he and his wife—both Harvard Law School graduates—could not afford the “luxury” of having her stay home with the children.

    Well the poor thing has surely recovered from the trauma with all her remedial and therapeutic spending at the taxpayer expense.

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  26. I'm beginning to worry about the ratster. I miss his "shit-stirring" (sometimes.) :)

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    1. I aint. I dont miss him, his pov nor his threats.

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  27. He got arrested.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxnwVtaxYRc

    Every day is the day of birth.

    I have been trying to teach this to RUFUS but the learning is slow.

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  28. Bob, stop it. You guys are really something. Rufus routinely calls Bob and anyone who disagrees with him "dumb motherfuckers" as in someone who fucks their mother, WIO likes to call Wasp a cunt, and Ash once called me a pedophile. Now Rufus wants to ban Bob for saying Nigger. Nigger nigger nigger. Do you want to ban me too?

    Rufus, you really should get your new found PC head out of your ass.

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    1. Ya, called you a pedophile in the context of "prove you are not a pedophile gag"

      No gag, it is your problem with context that suggests it is your head firmly up your ass.

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    2. Of all the name calling my calling Ms T/teresita/wasp/zena a "cunt" was accurate.

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    3. The only time will I post to the Elephant Bar is when some Zionist piece of shit mentions my name.

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    4. lol... that''s funny...

      just how many fucking names do you have and is CUNT one of them?

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    5. the good news? She who will not be named is gone for ever!

      May her/his memory fade like a pimple on the ass that healed up...

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    6. who knew that a zionist piece of shit like me could get a christmas gift early!

      She who must no be named has given us all peace....

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    7. Dear Blog Administrator.

      Please respect the wishes of "she who cannot be named" and delete any said post by it in the future that is posted unless her/his/it's names have been mentioned!

      Thank you

      The Zionist Piece of Shit...

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  29. It's not "new-found," and it's not "political correctness," Gag. I've had a long time, and it's called "Common Decency."

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  30. Common decency? Deuce posts a story challenging the existence of Christ on Christianity's Holiest of days, and I read all of your cute little comments about it? bullshit. Maybe you should look up the definition.

    You are just like evey other liberal I know, you disagree with something and you want to make a law to prohibit it or ban it.

    Oh well, I read and participate in this blog for the hilarity and obsurdity of it anyway.

    Ash, prove you didnt run to Canada because you are a chickenshit.

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    1. Ooooh noooo. Gag called me a chickenshit!

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  31. No, Gag, you can use racist language all you want; I just don't want to be around it.

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  32. But, then again, I notice YOU don't use racist language. Good Breeding shows.

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    I can sympathize with you to a degree Gag, but there are gradations in this sort of thing. And while there are variations in how each person views the order of things, some are more clear cut than others. For instance, I suspect calling someone an ass, dick, or shit would be viewed with more tolerance than calling them a motherfucker. Likewise, a one-off when you are pissed is more understandable than one who constantly goes back to this well. Just my opinion.

    Everyone is biased, a racist, bigoted, etc. to some degree. However, how you express those biases reflects on the individual. Deuce, for instance, has a bias against blacks for a number of reasons (crime, the race card, etc.), but he backs up his views with statistics not stereotypes. As far as I can remember, he doesn't stoop to ethnic slurs. I have been called bigoted, racist, and anti-semitic on this blog. Normally, it would not bother me at all. I am what I am and frankly don't give a shit. What does upset me, however, is when those who call me those names refuse to spell out the specific reasons they are calling me them. Then the names appear to be merely slurs, petty and juvenile.

    Bob, has a tendancy to run amok a couple of times a year on one subject or another. For the past few days, it has been about blacks. Today, instead of just making an argument that blacks on the Zimmerman jury might taint the jury process, he reverts to the use of ethnic slurs. It was gratuitous, unnecessary, and childess.

    Should he be banned. Naw, IMO. However, the more people that suggest he go to the mall and walk it off the better. It will save him embarrassing himself more.

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  34. Fin One man couldn't destroy this country if he tried, not even Obama.

    True and deeply so. I thought about that when the story broke about bin Laden's plans to kill Obama and Petraeus, as well as their GWB wet dreams. Such plans are a very clear indicator of how little the Muslim radicals understand western institutions, in particular USA (and how deeply ingrained the Big Man mentality is.) Hell, probably a good number of American citizens would be surprised. But no, removing the guy at the top won't do dick.

    9/11 was supposed to bring this country to its knees (the war debt being an admittedly good gut punch.) One wonders the extent to which our side leveraged that implicit demonstration of strength to our negotiating advantage.

    "Engagement" with these FUBAR clusterfucks is a modern nightmare, whether it's healthcare or Muslin radicalism, which leads directly to the dive-under-the-desk-for-cover-and-wait-for-Armageddon mentality. A lot of it does seem size-related, TBTF, and dysfunctional central bureaucracies, which is simplistic of course but I throw it out there to segue into the subject of devolving power away from Washington back to Paradise, otherwise known as the States.

    Quirk: The more I see the details of the FL. law, the more I think it sucks.

    Regardless of the objective truth of the specific set of laws in FL, it is self-deception to assume that the States will be much better at governing than Washington, another Republican mantra that may or may not be gaining momentum depending on who you read/believe. The key difference in such a migration of power will be size - and that may be enough to matter. But it's not the state of perfection that its proponents claim. It is another way of ensuring less - make that more manageable - government for those who are interested in such things.

    RE Patrol procedures

    That's a fully defensible set of reasonable protocols and it makes Zimmerman look more vulnerable to the charges.

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      Such plans are a very clear indicator of how little the Muslim radicals understand western institutions, in particular USA (and how deeply ingrained the Big Man mentality is.)


      Excellent point.


      9/11 was supposed to bring this country to its knees (the war debt being an admittedly good gut punch.)


      Objectively, what al Queda accomplished with 9/11 was a thousand times more than what OBL could have imagined in his greatest wet dream.


      Regardless of the objective truth of the specific set of laws in FL, it is self-deception to assume that the States will be much better at governing than Washington,...


      A liberal view of federalism (and one that can change as societal norms and ethics change). Things usually come down to whose ox is being gored.

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    2. A liberal view of federalism (and one that can change as societal norms and ethics change).

      Probably true as a general statement. My personal view is informed less by ideology than by the practical imprint of corruption. The states are fully corrupt. A mini cesspool is still a cesspool.


      RE the bin Laden's of the world

      I'm reminded of Yamamoto. The modern environment requires discretion. Disguise works in our favor over the long term.

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  35. Everyone is biased, a racist, bigoted, etc. to some degree. However, how you express those biases reflects on the individual.

    And so this country experienced the phenomenon of white people who recognized the historic injustice, felt guilty and made a conscious effort to change their perspectives. It may have gone through phases that could best be described as awkward, possibly plastic, and often uncomfortable, but try they did. And for making the effort, this group was treated to the sneering contempt of the newly educated group with their clever little websites like SWPL (Stuff White People Like.) The whole concept of race needs to be phased out.

    Urban thuggery is a law enforcement problem. Put enough of the punks away and watch the attraction of the life style fade.

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      You miss the point. Biases and racism exist. Reverse racism also exist. You can denounce that racism/reverse racism without stooping to ethnic slurs. The slurs themselves offer nothing of substance to the argument. They are petty and childish. Perhaps acceptable when you are out drinking with your bros (although I still don't see the point unless you think it's cute); however, not really acceptable in a public forum. IMO.


      Put enough of the punks away and watch the attraction of the life style fade.


      I'm sure Deuce has the stats on how many (raw totals and percentages) have been put away. It would be helpful to know how many is 'enough'.

      :)


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    2. Urban Thuggery: maybe we should just bitch slap their punk asses.
      :-)

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    3. It would be helpful to know how many is 'enough'.

      Perfect knowledge would be helpful. We don't have it. Life is a journey. (Cue the music.) The Thinkers have outpaced the Doers. To resurrect a point made awhile back, the Tea Party bombast imploded when confronted with the orders of magnitude more difficult challenge of governing in an imperfect environment with imperfect knowledge - and lots and lots of money. There is no spreadsheet app for governing. Another way of putting it, The Smart Set doesn't perform as well when it can't control the environment.

      You miss the point.

      The point - to me, I may be alone - is that we wouldn't be talking about racism, reverse or otherwise, if the subject were put to bed. Start with the meaningful gesture of eliminating EEO forms. Just get rid of them. Then bob could go back to his North Dakota jokes.

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  36. I didnt call you a chickenshit, Ash, I said prove you werent. Get your head out of your ass.

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      Ash, prove you didnt run to Canada because you are a chickenshit.


      And when did you stop beating your wife, Gag?

      Prove it.


      :)


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    2. Gag, you are a slow learner but at least you are learning!

      :-]

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    3. At least I do learn, Ash. Your mind, on the other hand, does not want to be confused by the facts.

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  37. I can't because I havent, but I am down to 2 beatings a week. she listens better than she used to.

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  38. RE Urban thuggery

    Watch "Rise of the Foot Soldier" based on true story for some insight into Britain's problem circa 1975 through 1995.

    There's a consistency about "thuggery" that transcends the contextual. A fancy way of saying they're pretty much all the same. Regardless of ethnicity or race. Some are meaner than others but past a certain point, it's just different shades of blood red.

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  39. The Lord God has taken my despair away.

    My girl has gotten back to me.


    She has emailed me, and she has told me, Frank was a piece of crap,dead now, there at the Desert Inn.

    Her daughter now has a child, a young one, adopted, and we are making plans to see one another.


    whoooopppeeeee!

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  40. The Lord God has taken my despair away through an email from my old lover and she has said to me Frank was a prick there where she worked at the Desert Inn for twenty years and her daughter has an adopted and we are making plans to met---whhoooopeeee!

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