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Saturday, April 09, 2011

Pusillanimous Republicans Capitulate

Representative John Boehner, the Republican Speaker of the House, said:

"We have no interest in shutting down the government," he said. "But we're not going to roll over and sell out the American people like it's been done time and time again here in Washington.", after which he promptly lost his nerve and sold out.





Obama portrayed the compromise as a tribute to US democracy as he said: "Tomorrow ... the entire federal government will be open for business."and tomorrow, Obama will take a much needed vacation to Williamsburg.

Reid, like Obama, paid tribute to the Republicans in spite of the repeated clashes over the last week. "This has been a long process," Reid said. "It has not been an easy process. Both sides have had to make tough choices."
and I have no idea what Reid will do.

96 comments:

  1. The big bucks come next.
    Rand Paul was on Ingraham...

    I have not followed the numbers and was shocked to learn that apparently Ryan's cuts have today's budgets as a starting point and don't get back to the widely advertise 2008 levels for some time.

    Is that right, Rufus? (or anyone)

    Sounded like we would be adding deficits for some time even in the imaginary World of Ryan.

    Looking at the numbers must be a depressing experience.
    Going bust will be worse.

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  2. The shutdown in the 90's was disastrous for the Republicans. They couldn't afford to let that happen again but the Dems couldn't afford to let the blame fall on them either.

    A compromise had to happen.

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  3. All that sound and fury, for "cuts" of $30 some billion.

    Peanut dough.

    Not a word of restructuring Federal operations.

    No "down sizing"

    No change in course or even speed.

    The entire deal, just another day at the DC theater.

    The very idea of them going "Back to the Future", revisiting 2008, a comedy.

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    Is that right, Rufus? (or anyone)

    I have seen videos of Ryan explaining his proposal and I have seen commentary (pro and con) on the budget proposal; however, I have not seen the actual proposal. I've made some comments on the proposal from what I've read
    but if anyone knows where to get a copy of the actual proposal, it would be helpful.

    While many of Ryan's proposals are pretty clear, a lot of the detail, well, in Ryan's words, "we will work it out."

    For instance, when the proposal first came out, I saw reports that he was going to offer $8,000 to the younger medicare patients to pay for their health care. Now, in the Krauthhammer commentary Duece posted that has morphed to $15,000.

    Likewise, Ryan says his proposal is revenue nuetral with tax cuts being paid for by elimination of loopholes which as far as I can see are never spelled out in detail.

    He also misrepresents the CBO position on his proposal (I have seen the CBO report).

    So all in all it would be helpful to see his source document.

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    Rat is right on this one.

    The last few weeks have been a marvelous waste of time.

    The budget they have been debating is for 2011 and by law should have been resolved six months ago. It covers only portions of the 12% of the budget that is termed "dicretionary", an oxymoron. Given this year's deficit, the amount they were arguing about is miniscule.

    In addition, this is a budget battle. Why are we talking about abortion in it?

    All in all, we have been presented with a month of political kabuki. A waste of time.

    Worst?

    Deuce says GOP capitulates. The WaPo says "Lawmakers approved a short-term spending overnight and are set to take up a final deal next week."

    More kabuki to come.

    They should drop all this posturing and move on to the real battle, the 2012 budget.

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  6. I'm in the unfortunate position of being considerably less impressed with Paul Ryan than 99.9% of the Republican Party.

    We normally collect a smidge less than 20% of GDP in taxes. We're, presently, collecting somewhere around 15%. When Paul Ryan, or anyone else, looks in the camera, and says, "we don't have a taxing problem; we have a spending problem," I quit listening.

    We have a "Revenue" Problem AND a "Spending" problem.

    And, a Huge "balance of payments" problem.

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    Those who call for shutting down the government over a nit in order to 'prove a point'; well...

    Perhaps, they should take an objective look at the pros and cons of a government shutdown versus what could be achieved in continuing this "fight" and rethink their position.

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    I agree with Rufus.

    (Nice to be on the same side after yesterday Ruf)

    :)

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  9. You gotta get one right every now and then, Q. :)

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    I'm in the unfortunate position of being considerably less impressed with Paul Ryan than 99.9% of the Republican Party.

    Some of the GOP not endorsing it are people who may announce they are running for the GOP nomination and recognize the political price that may be paid.

    That being said, while I don't like many aspects of the proposal, I still admire Ryan for having the guts to put out an actual proposal without most the euphemisms and talking points we are used to.

    His budget pretty clearly lays out the Republican agenda although many refuse to admit that that is what it is.

    It would be nice if over the next couple weeks Obama and the Congressional Dems had the guts to do the same thing.

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  11. Look, there's a pretty good chunk of spending that "comes off" if/when the economy recovers. ie. Federal Extended Unemployment Benefits, etc. Maybe as much as a couple hundred billion.

    Add that spending to the cost of Two Wars, and that's quite a bit of low-hanging fruit. Chop that 350 or 400 Billion out, and get your tax regime back around nineteen, or twenty percent, and we're starting to get back toward the "land of the living."

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  12. "Republicans are often saying, 'Look, we only control just the House of Representatives. There are these other two big forces in Washington.' Given that there are those two other big forces, John Boehner got a lot of spending reductions that Republicans wanted, [and] moved Democrats much closer to where the Republican position was. So it was a big, big night for him."

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  13. Whit: The shutdown in the 90's was disastrous for the Republicans. They couldn't afford to let that happen again but the Dems couldn't afford to let the blame fall on them either.

    Everything was hunky dory until the narrative became "Newt shut down the government because Clinton made him ride in the back of Air Force One."

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  14. Can someone link the alternative democratic proposal to Ryan's plan?

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  15. I just saw (I've got Fox on mute) a couple of Godawful, Big Ol' American made pumps being loaded onto a Godawful, big ol' American made 747 for shipment to Japan to be used at Fuckyewshima.

    There's still some stuff we do awfully well.

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  16. Everything was hunky dory until the narrative became "Newt shut down the government because Clinton made him ride in the back of Air Force One."

    T, you're just still pissed that you are essential and have to go to work on Monday.

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  17. Most people are pretty "Pragmatic," and Everyone has a Budget.

    John, and Betty Q. Public get irritated when the assholes they send to Washington can't even do something as simple as "keep the store open."

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  18. One of the more amazing statistics I've seen was that something like 90% of Men vote the way their fathers did. In other words, they don't think much about it, and pretty much vote for one party, or the other, out of habit.

    That means, I guess, that they don't necessarily think the guys/gals from their party are particularly bright, or prescient - just that they are from "their" party.

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  19. Listening to the taking-class gnashing their teeth about being on the eve of destruction while the compliant media sings refrain should be enough to remind everyone that this thing will not be fixed until we are financially wrecked.

    We have a mind-numbing deficit of $1.6 Trillion. That means the federal government is borrowing and spending $4.38 billion daily, and that is only to fund the deficit. We have watched our rulers and masters cut 8.6 days of deficit spending out of 365. That is less than the number of federal holidays, 10!

    That is the best we can do. Interest rates are being kept artificially low so that the true consequences of this horror is temporarily kept hidden. Look at the traders of gold, silver and oil. They know. They are seeking refuge. Look at the dollar. They know as well.

    Years ago, I worked for a major Philadelphia bank as a cash management analyst. We carved the map of the city into sectors with a red pen. The areas outside the red line were areas where we sent armored cars to pick up cash.

    In the Polish areas of Bridesburg and Port Richmond, people saved 25% of their income. In the black and Hispanic parts of North Philadelphia, we sent in truck loads of currency to cash welfare checks. The system was sustainable because most of those on welfare did not vote and the savers received a fair return on their money.

    That has changed. The Rubicon has been crossed where robbing Peter to pay Paul gets Paul's vote and Paul is now in the majority. Savers get nothing.

    There really is an eve of destruction. We are on it.

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  20. As much as you all dislike the fact of the matter, this little bit of theatrics, out of DC, does prove one thing.

    Abortion, as a policy issue, is a driving force amongst the Tea Partiers that are in Congress.

    Denial of that, well, the facts are the facts.

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  21. I read the Deuce and thought, "Saving for a rainy day".

    As I glance outside, it's raining.

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  22. .

    Egypt's military uses force to break up Tahrir Square protest; 2 reported killed

    CAIRO – Egypt’s military used force early Saturday to break up a camp of protesters in Tahrir Square, as tensions continued to build between the pro-democracy movement and the military leadership that has run the country since Hosni Mubark’s ouster.

    Hundreds of troops, firing heavy volleys of gunfire into the sky and attacking protesters with electric batons, swarmed the center of the square to expel several hundred people who had defied a 2 a.m. curfew following Friday’s massive and peaceful protest rally.

    Among those who had joined the overnight protesters in the tent camp were a dozen or more uniformed soldiers who had broken ranks to demand that Egypt’s Supreme Military Council move faster to try Mubarak and members of his regime for corruption...


    Army Attacks Protesters

    Anyone care to guess where Egypt ranks on Obama's ad hoc, case-by-case plan for regime change.

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  23. Maybe I just got a good night's sleep. I'm not quite so pessimistic. I see a glimmer of hope.

    Democracy will drive you crazy, but it does seem to kinda sorta work in the long run.

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    According to a recent Pew Research poll, what had been overwhelming support for the Tea Party a year ago is now down to a pretty even split among Americans.

    The trend is not their friend.

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  25. The Army was in control of Egypt during the Mubarak years, it controls Egypt in the post-Mubarak era, too.

    While it seems that the Egyptian Army have boots on the ground, in Libya, too

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  26. Their election was Not any sort of referendum on abortion. People don't want their government run/shut down over a religious/moral issue.

    Voters may not want to pay for your girl friend's abortion, but they don't want the government shut down over it, either.

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  27. The Tea Partiers need to understand that a can of tuna would have gotten as many votes as did many of them.

    People just wanted to "shake things up." I know I did.

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  28. Laying Poland's messianic complex to rest

    Poland is finally shaking off its image as the martyr of Europe – the first anniversary of Smolensk will test its progress

    The Guardian - UK

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  29. Poland is cursed by terrible geography. The only gateway between russia, and Germany. What could go wrong with that?

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  30. A little rehearsal, out in the badlands, the show takes shape.

    Charlie Sheen -- Crowd Goes WILD In Cleveland

    Charlie Sheen KILLED IT in Cleveland Tuesday night ... finishing a 2 hour performance with a STANDING OVATION!!!

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  31. 1987. That makes next year your 25th, Miss T. What is the 25th? Silver or platinum or something. Welcome to the world of the long lasting relationships, and congratulations.

    dwr

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  33. Did the Elko Annual
    Cowboy Poetry Festival funding survive the budget cuts? That is the only meaningful question, and what we should be talking about. Without that, we have really lost our way. EACPF should be the last program standing.

    dwr

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  34. Along the same line of thought, Your Self is doomed. Them cowpokes are the lastest real men standing. er, riding.

    dwr

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  35. Not metro, ruralsexuals they are. Probaly pay no taxes at all and surely aren't on the dole. Only group that comes close to their exalted status is the farmerflyfishermen, and they fall far short. One old cowboy my wife knew about, at the end his trail, he simply rode out in the desert and disappeared. They found him dead and shriveled up good his back resting against a tree, relaxed satistisfied look on his face. She says, "I want to die like that, Bob." One of her heroes.

    dwr

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  36. Speaking of Poland. if you are ever in Philadelphia and get a chance to go here to this Polish and Russian club for a party, wedding, anything at all, GO!

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  37. Heard Harry Reid say that 85 of Nevada is Federally controlled.

    That'd make 15% is private or State.

    Bet there is more deeded land, measured as a percentage, in Washington DC.

    As for Elko County:
    Of Elko County’s 10,995,840 acres, 72.7+/- percent is administrated by the federal government. Another 1.5 percent is sovereign tribal lands. The Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest is administered by the U.S. Forest Service. Most of the remaining lands are administrated by the Bureau of Land Management.

    That Cowboy Poetry Festival, another part of the National Heritage that is being preserved.
    72% of the costs SHOULD be carried by the Federals, that is their proportion of ownership of the land in Elko County.

    Or the Federals should be forced to divest themselves of the property, if their responsibilities as members of the community are to daunting.

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  38. There are some 50,000 residents, of Elko County.

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  39. What to believe:

    *Boehner Closes the Deal - John Bresnahan & Jake Sherman, Politico

    *Searching for Vision: Obama's Struggle - Peter Baker, New York Times

    *Tea-Party Groups Give Speaker High Marks - Weisman & Levitz, WSJ

    *Deep Budget Cuts Hurt Most Vulnerable - Colbert King, Washington Post

    *Dems Complacent in Face of Fiscal Crisis - Mark Steyn, National Review

    *Obama Won by Playing Referee - Howard Kurtz, The Daily Beast

    *President Acts Like He Won, But He Lost - Ezra Klein, Washington Post

    *It Wasn't Even Close - Carl Cameron, FOX News

    *Was Boehner Bluffing the Whole Time? - Steve Kornacki, Salon

    *Waterloo for Public Unions in Wisconsin - James Taranto, Wall St. Journal

    *A Theatrical Game of Shutdown Chicken - Dana Milbank, Washington Post

    *Why Does The Press Protect Obama? - Donald Trump, New York Times

    *Donald Trump Strikes Back - Gail Collins, New York Times

    *Bob Dylan Works Around China's Bosses? - Terry Mattingly, Get Religion

    *Syria: The Revolution Stops Here - Richard Haass, Time

    *Obama's Well-Executed Con Job - Peter Wehner, Commentary

    *Paul Ryan's Ludicrous and Cruel Budget - Paul Krugman, New York Times

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  40. The American people like hard-fought contests, and they, also, like it when the contestants "shake hands" after it's over.

    I imagine most people are satisfied with the outcome.

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  41. Terry Jones burned the Koran...and Gen. Petreaus condemned it, but the US military burned Bibles in Afghanistan

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  42. Mark Steyn:

    I always enjoy those stories that crop up periodically on the local news where some 700lb guy who can’t get out of bed needs to go to hospital and the fire department has to slice off the second-floor clapboards and framing to winch him out of there. When you’re 50lbs overweight, it’s worth laying off the pasta and desserts. When you’re 500lbs over, you just lie there and wait for someone else to keep the chow coming – the Chinese, Japanese, Saudis, Russians… Hey, what difference does it make? And if the bed sores get too bad the Beijing Fire Department will be there to saw the wall off and get you outta there....

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  43. Over at National Review online, Mark Stein echoes my thoughts:

    Another ten years of this, and large tracts of America will be Third World. Not Somalia-scale Third World, but certainly the more decrepit parts of Latin America. There will still be men with motorcades, but they’ll have heavier security and the compounds they shuttle between will be more heavily protected.

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  44. Harry Reid, Feb. 3, 2011, on Paul Ryan’s initial offer of $32 billion in spending cuts:

    The chairman of the Budget Committee today, today sent us something even more draconian than we originally anticipated…So this isn’t some game that people have been playing. The House of Representatives [is] actually sending us some of these unworkable plans.

    Harry Reid, April 9, 2011, on a deal to cut $38.5 billion:

    This is historic, what we’ve done.

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  45. You see, this is what pisses me off. Mark Steyn trying to talk for the "average" man.

    Mark, motherfucker, there WAS NO $1.80 Gas at the dawn of the "hopey-changey" period. Gas was cheaper than now, for sure, BUT it wasn't That damned cheap.

    If he gets it That wrong in the first paragraph, why in the world would I want to read any further?

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  46. In fact, I remember a national average of somewhere over $4.30/gal before the inane Republican rule threw us into the worst recession since the Great Depression.

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  47. Well, that Is true; but, that's some mighty fancy cherry-picking on his part.

    The Republicans run it up to $4.00+, cause a Global Economic Crisis that almost puts the whole world into Depression, and then point to ONE month, the month Obama takes over, as the Benchmark.

    I hate fucking partisan shit-stirrers.

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  48. But the One hasn't done a thing to bring gas prices down since he took office. In fact, where it up to him, gas would have hit $4.00/gallon a lot sooner with the carbon tax....Remember that?

    And the no drilling, go drilling, no drilling shuffle.

    Obama is the man in office at the moment. "Partisan shit stirrers" gave George Bush no relief and Obama shouldn't expect any either.

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  49. You know what I remember from that campaign? I remember filling up with $4.00 gasoline, and going home and watching McCain bash ethanol.

    The stupidest motherfucker in the "Party of Stupid" - except for "Me." I voted for him, anyway.

    (but, if I'd thought he had the slightest chance of being elected I wouldn't have.)

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    Well, that Is true; but, that's some mighty fancy cherry-picking on his part.

    As was the $4.30.

    Overall, I like mark Steyn.

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    Terry Jones burned the Koran...and Gen. Petreaus condemned it, but the US military burned Bibles in Afghanistan...

    When the military brass turns into a bunch of PC pussies, you know you are in trouble.

    "The decision was made that it was a 'force protection' measure to throw them away, because, if they did get out, it could be perceived by Afghans that the U.S. government or the U.S. military was trying to convert Muslims," Wright told CNN on Tuesday.

    What does it matter if you give in to terrorists and their tactics in the name of “force protection” in a timebound kinetic military operation?

    One would think they would get their message straight. You either bow to terrorist demands and ty to rationalize it away or you don’t.

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  52. Well, I don't like him worth a shit. He attacks Medicare, but says nothing about George Bush's wars in Iraq, and Afghanistan.

    He talks about high gas prices, but doesn't mention the Koch Bros/Exxon/Saudi/Fox/Republican's unrelenting, and bloody war against alternatives.

    He talks about budget deficits, but doesn't mention that the share of Corporate Contributions is down from 30% in the fifties to less than 10% in 2010.

    He doesn't mention how GE can make $14 Billion, park the profits overseas, Pay NO taxes, then pass it along to Warren Buffet who pays 15 Motherfucking percent.

    I don't like the phony-assed Republican cocksucker AT ALL.

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  53. I'm not an Obama fan. I'm not a "Tea Partier." I hate ALL the motherfuckers.

    But, I'll tell you what really chaps my ass: Warren Buffet has an effective tax rate of 17.2 motherfucking percent.

    I have Never in my life had a tax rate that low.

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  54. I don't think "Partisans" will ever understand (or, care, for that matter) how the ordinary person thinks.

    I would have voted for a dung beetle in 2010 if he had had a "tea party" medallian hanging around his neck. Not because I liked, much less "loved" their positions, but because I wanted a countervailing force in congress.

    If I see a large Republican surge in 2012 I'll probably vote for Obama. We don't "Really get into trouble" in this country except when one party has full control.

    I don't want Any of the bastards to get comfortable.

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  55. MIYAKO, Japan (AP) — Modern sea walls failed to protect coastal towns from Japan's destructive tsunami last month. But in the hamlet of Aneyoshi, a single centuries-old tablet saved the day.

    "High dwellings are the peace and harmony of our descendants," the stone slab reads. "Remember the calamity of the great tsunamis. Do not build any homes below this point."

    It was advice the dozen or so households of Aneyoshi heeded, and their homes emerged unscathed from a disaster that flattened low-lying communities elsewhere and killed thousands along Japan's northeastern shore.


    The Warnings were there. All Up and Down the Coast

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  56. Here is how you know it is a bad deal:

    Obama says, " spending deal is win for bipartisanship."

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  57. Hamas used a state-of-the-art Russian-design antitank missile, the 9M133 Kornet (NATO designation AT-14 SPRIGGAN), to attack the bus. Israeli officials confirmed that the hit on the school bus was achieved using laser guidance, and that the missile was launched from two miles away.

    I am always on the side that is having its children targeted.

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  58. Well, I don't like him worth a shit. He attacks Medicare, but says nothing about George Bush's wars in Iraq, and Afghanistan...

    Frankly, I read him mostly for his attacks on the PC proponents; however, he has spoken out on Iraq and Afghanistan. For the most part, he has supported the Iraq war (something that many here did in the beginning and which some still try to justify at least to a degree); but then no one is perfect.

    As far as Afghanistan, he has voiced many of the same criticisms of the war and how it's being handled as I see posted here every day.

    On the other items you mentioned, they are pretty specific. How many other people actually talk about them?

    He is pretty conservative. I like him on some things. Disagree with him on others. All in all, I still have a positive opinion of him.

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  59. Aw, I guess he's alright; I'm just fed up with "partisan" whining, and bickering.

    I guess I'm just starved for a little "policy wonkishness."

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  60. Without George Bush there would be no Barack Obama. The borders are no better, no worse. We now have three Middle Eastern wars. Did Bush ever see a spending bill he did't like and veto it?

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  61. There are Two, Really big deals. Energy, and Healthcare; and they are really, really complicated (especially, Healthcare.)

    I would give absolutely Anything to see a long, detailed, in depth, down and dirty analysis of healthcare costs, how they're paid today, how they could, in the real world, be lowered, etc.

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  62. Interestingly, Bush promoted one program, hated by Dems, and Pubs, alike (and, That might be the key) that has consistently come in way below expectations - Medicare Part D.

    That program deserves some serious study. But, as I stated, everyone hates it (except for those benefitting from it.)

    It's too "free market" for the Democrats, and too "Socialist" for the Republicans.

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  63. Mumar Q High Fives The Kids

    If it weren't so sad it's be funny as hell wouldn't it?

    Next week after my wife goes to visit a girlfriend and the TAXES are paid, I plan on boring you all to death with some posts from a Sufi book I'm reading. Guy has it right, but Lord, how hard it must be to be a Sufi type in Islam! He artfully dodges all the, er, difficult questions concerning moslem behavior, and I think I've found him out on a couple of historical 'fibs' to say the least, but he does a passable job of locating the perennial philosphy from quotes in the koran, very selectively. One would think, if the perennial philosophy is on to the truth, it would show among some very minority group in any society, how could it not? if it be the truth, and this author shows it to be their in the koran.

    America is a rich country. We could default, we'd still have the Frank Church Wilderness Area. What's to worry about? :)

    We'd still have have our Interstate Highway System, and McCall, Idaho and the Cd'Alene Resort, and the Indian Casinos. Relax. Smell the roses.

    dwr

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  64. In important news -

    Idaho Senate Passes Anti-Wolf Bill 27 - 8

    heh, Governor Butch signed it.

    They used to say here you could put the Democrats in the Idaho Senate in a phone booth. They had three or four members, then.

    Now with 8 - I'm assuming this was a party line vote, a fairly good assumption - it seems we might need a mini-van.

    This is the result of foreignors from California and back east invading our space and trying to f things up, like they did in their own back yards. :)

    They seem to know no other lifestyle.

    Maybe some people fleeing Detroit in the mix.

    dwr

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  65. Better get NATO to help with the wolf kill or start arming the school busses and US Postal trucks.

    How dumb do the Idaho politicians think the people of Idaho are, or do they know something?

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    Maybe some people fleeing Detroit in the mix.

    I had to laugh at the comment about the snowmobile and hunting the wolfs.

    You better stick to poisoning. It's all the dumb hicks in Idaho are capable of.

    Otherwise we will being seeing headlines like,


    From the Idaho Wastral:

    "While farmer with prostate problems stops to take a leak his snowmobile is stolen. Wolves suspected."

    Sheriff's posse called in and gets lost.

    In the name of "troop protection" Idaho Governor refuses to call out National Guard to search for them because of wolf danger.

    Michigan and New York offer to send over one boy scout troop each to find sheriff."


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    Can't remember who posted that video of the elk walking up to the hunter. It might have been Doug or Sam.

    However, I am sure the hunter had to be from Idaho.

    Idahoans at Play

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    Video from this years's Idaho State Fair.

    Show's locals, most from Memphis, participating in the Race of the
    Twits.

    Flight of the Farmers

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    The Idaho State Flower is the Pansy.

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  70. Fred Thompson:

    Obama reply to gas-price grumbler: "you might want to think about a trade-in".

    Ladies & gentlemen, I give you the new GOP 2012 slogan.


    In other news, a restraining order was placed on Michael Moore, banning him from jogging within 5 miles of US nuclear plants and fault lines.

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  71. Simple math even Libtards may understand:

    $1,400 Budget.

    Cut $38 from that.

    Whoopty do!

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  72. The USA has to borrow money to pay the interest on the money ALREADY borrowed.

    It's like using Master Card to pay Visa.

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  73. Deuce said:

    ...this thing will not be fixed until we are financially wrecked

    And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, just about says it all.

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    From the Idaho Wastral

    Wolf attacks reach unprecidented levels. Well, actually they are at zero, yet the 'potential' for them causing grave danger to the public is of overriding concern to the average Idaho.

    Idaho governor recommends building large stockade into which all Idaho residents can be hearded for their protection against wolf attacks.


    In a related story Michigan legislator hoping to cash in on the Idaho wolf phobia introduces bill that would authorize Michigan to train wolves to herd elk into confined valleys and gullies to assure Idaho farmers have some chance of hitting them while hunting.

    In defense of his bill the legislator indicated that the most children Idaho could expect to lose per year was 3 or 4. This would be more than offset by the increased revenue from elk permits.

    When informed Idaho's elk population has already disappeared due to the predation of a couple hundred wolves, the bill was withdrawn.

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  75. Rufus II said...
    Interestingly, Bush promoted one program, hated by Dems, and Pubs, alike (and, That might be the key) that has consistently come in way below expectations - Medicare Part D.

    That program deserves some serious study. But, as I stated, everyone hates it (except for those benefitting from it.)

    It's too "free market" for the Democrats, and too "Socialist" for the Republicans.

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    Not Paul Ryan

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  76. Doug, I heard something about that; tell me more.

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  77. Socialist II said...

    "the inane Republican rule threw us into the worst recession since the Great Depression."

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    The Dems were a lot more responsible for the Real Estate Bubble/Crash than the Pubs.

    I hate Partisan Socialist Shit Stirrers.

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  78. ...in my defense, I posted that before refreshing the page!

    Pardon the Partisan Bickering.

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  79. (2) Critics are describing Ryan’s Medicare reform as privatization, a deliberately loaded term designed to instantly discredit the idea. Yet the idea is essentially to apply to all of Medicare the system under which Medicare Part D has been such a success: a guaranteed insurance subsidy. Thus instead of paying the health provider directly (fee-for-service), Medicare would give seniors about $15,000 of “premium support,” letting the recipient choose among a menu of approved health insurance plans. Call this privatization if you like, but then would you call the Part D prescription benefit “privatized”? If so, there’s a lot to be said for it. Part D is both popular and successful. It actually beat its cost projections — a near miraculous exception to just about every health-care program known to man.
    Under Ryan’s plan, everyone 55 and over is unaffected. Younger workers get the insurance subsidy starting in 2022. By eventually ending the current fee-for-service system that drives up demand and therefore prices, this reform is far more likely to ensure the survival of Medicare than the current near-insolvent system.

    - Krauthammer piece posted by Deuce

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  80. He said: "Now you just fought one hell of a fight
    And I know you hate me, and you got the right
    To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you do.
    But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
    For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
    Cause I'm the son-of-a-bitch that named you "Sue.'"

    I got all choked up and I threw down my gun
    And I called him my pa, and he called me his son,
    And I came away with a different point of view.
    And I think about him, now and then,
    Every time I try and every time I win

    Boy Named Sioux

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  81. While Bernanke & Co. have increased the adjusted monetary base by about $500 billion since late December, other central banks have been tightening policy in order to stabilize their currencies and fight inflation. The ECB went for a quarter-point hike this week. And the euro is trading strong at 1.44 to the dollar.

    Over the past year or so, Canada and Australia have raised rates several times. Their currencies are soaring. China and other Asian countries also have been gradually tightening policy. In all these cases, foreign central banks are rejecting the over-supply of dollars coming their way.

    So, by the way, are Middle East oil producers, according to CNBC reporting. As U.S. crude-oil prices have shot up 30 percent since mid-February, the Saudis and others have been selling much of the dollar proceeds from the high-priced oil sales.

    It just seems like nobody wants dollars. That’s because there’s too many of them. And a lot of the excess dollar flow is finding its way into commodities — including oil, but most especially gold and silver, which are traditional monetary substitutes. Right now gold is cruising towards $1,500 an ounce. Silver has passed $40. Crude oil is over $112, and European crude is back to $126.

    In a recent survey by Reuters, one-in-five traders said they expect Brent oil to hit $150 this year. Gasoline prices in the states continue to surge, with the AAA national average retail price moving to $3.74. In almost ten states, the gallon price is hovering around $4.

    Nobody knows where the energy tipping point is for the economy and stocks. And by and large, the market has held up rather well. But these spiking prices are surely a threat.

    There’s no question that the potential U.S. debt bomb from overspending is a backdrop fear for investors. Long-run, that bomb could be just as much a dollar destroyer as the over-easy Fed. And perhaps the debt bomb and cheap money are ultimately two sides of the same coin.

    But right now another $35 billion in spending cuts that eventually will come out of the shutdown debate is at least a small part of the solution. The problem remains a stubborn Fed, with its head in the sand, and with its failure to see world monetary and commodity threats closing in all around it.

    – Larry Kudlow, NRO

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  82. Pictures from Mat's southwest travels -

    https://picasaweb.google.com/mika2k1/AmericanSouthwest2011#slideshow/


    I refuse to be drawn into a response by comments from nitwits back east.

    dwr

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  83. except hunting the wolfs

    this nitwit cain't spell

    we do dress like that at our lawn parties


    When informed Idaho's elk population has already disappeared due to the predation of a couple hundred wolves, the bill was withdrawn.

    this has the sound of truth considering the conditions on the ground here

    I'll have four or five stuffed wolves by Christmas Time, Quirk, maybe you can market them for me back east at say $10,000 per.

    My account told me of one his friend had stuffed. It was, he said, really impressive.

    Everyone is invited to hunt wolves here, an opportunity that doesn't come along just every century.

    dwr

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  84. accountant, dammit

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    I'll have four or five stuffed wolves by Christmas Time,...

    Where do you plan on buying them from?

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    Idaho Senate Passes Anti-Wolf Bill 27 - 8

    From the comments attached to dwr's post noted above, it appears the only ones with balls in Idaho are the ladies.

    Here's what Lisa had to say,

    Lisa on April 06 at 9:26 p.m.

    Can Pearce produce any documented incidents of wolves attacking kids at bus stops?…or housewives being held hostage by taliban wolves?. When are the Clown in Boise going home?

    Lisa on April 07 at 9:13 a.m.

    In a state where a guy can carry enough fire power to supply an infantry company, everyone is affraid of the big bad wolf. I find it interesting that the two dozen shouting for this bill yesterday infront of the capitol were hungting guides who make their money guiding out of staters on elk hunts. I thought Clem Otter was going to be the first in line to get his wof killin permit so he could shoot them pesky critters (providing his elderly scrawny butt could get to them without his horse throwing him off again).

    Its time for Sen Pearce, Reps Erik Simpson & Elenore Barrett to man up and hold the line to protect those Idahoan kids at bus stops and mom being held hostage at mail boxes, from those killer wolves (no the wolves don’t shoot back). Get the Tea Baggers to form a skirmish line on the right flank. Pearce, Simpson & Berret assault up the middle, Clem and Luna swing aroung the left and set up blocking positions to the rear so them wolves can be ambushed (bushwhacked in Idaho terms), Senator Siddeway will lead a mounted cavalry charge (on sheep) to support rhwe Pearce/Simpson/Barret drive in the middle. Nonini will run the op from a covered & concealed undetermined location.

    Lisa on April 07 at 12:52 p.m.

    Uhh Blue, not that I really care to reply to your FAUX mentality, but most wolf kills on domestic livestock occure on federal land (ie public land) that ranchers graze their livestock on. So you go out and buy a rifle (it won’t hurt you when you fire it), cammo clothing (to keep your candya$$ warm) and you protect those cows, grazing on federal land safe from those dang blasted wolves…oh and watchout for the cow pies.


    Say, dwr, your daughter's not named Lisa is she?

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    From dwr's post above,

    Last-minute legislation to declare a disaster emergency in Idaho due to wolves...

    You just can't make this stuff up.

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    From the comments attached to dwr's post above on the wolf kill legislation in Idaho, it appears that the only people with balls there are the ladies.

    Comments from Lisa,

    Lisa on April 06 at 9:26 p.m.

    Can Pearce produce any documented incidents of wolves attacking kids at bus stops?…or housewives being held hostage by taliban wolves?. When are the Clown in Boise going home?

    Lisa on April 07 at 9:13 a.m.

    In a state where a guy can carry enough fire power to supply an infantry company, everyone is affraid of the big bad wolf. I find it interesting that the two dozen shouting for this bill yesterday infront of the capitol were hungting guides who make their money guiding out of staters on elk hunts. I thought Clem Otter was going to be the first in line to get his wof killin permit so he could shoot them pesky critters (providing his elderly scrawny butt could get to them without his horse throwing him off again).

    Its time for Sen Pearce, Reps Erik Simpson & Elenore Barrett to man up and hold the line to protect those Idahoan kids at bus stops and mom being held hostage at mail boxes, from those killer wolves (no the wolves don’t shoot back). Get the Tea Baggers to form a skirmish line on the right flank. Pearce, Simpson & Berret assault up the middle, Clem and Luna swing aroung the left and set up blocking positions to the rear so them wolves can be ambushed (bushwhacked in Idaho terms), Senator Siddeway will lead a mounted cavalry charge (on sheep) to support rhwe Pearce/Simpson/Barret drive in the middle. Nonini will run the op from a covered & concealed undetermined location.

    Lisa on April 07 at 12:52 p.m.

    Uhh Blue, not that I really care to reply to your FAUX mentality, but most wolf kills on domestic livestock occure on federal land (ie public land) that ranchers graze their livestock on. So you go out and buy a rifle (it won’t hurt you when you fire it), cammo clothing (to keep your candya$$ warm) and you protect those cows, grazing on federal land safe from those dang blasted wolves…oh and watchout for the cow pies.


    Say dwr, your daughter isn't named Lisa is she?

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    My account told me of one his friend had stuffed. It was, he said, really impressive.

    "Man that is one majestic looking wolf."

    "Yea, I poisoned him. It was quite a fight. Took him about a day and a half to die."

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  90. :)

    No kills yet by bus stops, but they have been hanging around such. According to two newspaper articles I read, which I of course didn't keep.

    If I really worked at it I could show you a video of some rural lady scared out of her wits when walking down a path, by a pack. But I sent it to someone, and can't remember where I got it or who sent it to me.

    Have you no compassion in your soul for the poor innocent slaughtered elk. How would you like to have your tongue eaten, your genitals fooled with, and your anis chewed, the rest of you left to rot?

    Poisonin' is too good for 'em.

    dwr

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