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Sunday, December 19, 2010

Out of One, Many. Obama Opens the Door to Reparations



Don't make any mistakes about where this is going. It opens the door to reparations. It will force conflict over generational old land disputes.

It has implications for tribal claims that cross international borders. Obama knows that. He also knows that it will open conflict over reparations for slavery.

Regardless of the merits of the emotional claims of land by the descendants of Indian tribes and racial groups, current law and land guarantees the rights of present owners. It is a system created by people long since dead, but the system is alive and it is the system which governs current commerce and wealth, property rights, and the border rights of states and national US borders.

Obama knows that Republicans and right thinking Democrats have to oppose this change in law. Obama believes that his political agenda will be advanced by the expected opposition. For Obama to quote "E Pluribus Unum", shows what a fraud and cynic he really is. His real agenda is out of one, many.
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From The Wasington Times:
President Obama announced Thursday that the U.S. would reverse the position of the Bush administration and become the last nation to drop its opposition to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

Mr. Obama made the announcement to enthusiastic applause at the second White House Tribal Nations Conference, a gathering attended by representatives of the nation's 565 recognized American Indian tribes.

"The aspirations it affirms - including respect for the institutions and rich cultures of native peoples - are ones we must always seek to fulfill," Mr. Obama said at the conference, held at the Interior Department. "But I want to be clear: What matters far more than words - what matters far more than any resolution or declaration - are actions to match those words. And that's what this conference is about."
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34 comments:

  1. This is all about Obama regenerating his base so that he has continued use of Air Force One. He has no concern about the discord and disunity this act will cause in this country.

    He is about as despicable a politician as we have seen in the Oval Office.

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  2. Does this mean that those injuns are gonna hafta share some of dat crazy casino money with us?

    Woohoo

    That ain't what it means, huh?

    Guess I better brush up on the ol' Cherokee talkin'.

    Oom bawa, Oombawa, yiyiyiyiyiyi

    (anybody know how to say "scalp their wimmin, and steal their horses" in injun?

    yiyiyiyiyi

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  3. I am automatically suspicious of anything coming out of the UN. You know that somebody, somewhere has an agenda of mischief, corruption or worse.

    I don't like vague, feel good, open-ended legislation, rules, policies or treaties.

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  4. Have to think, whit, that since the US founded and now funds the United Nations, the mischief that is accomplished there, suits our national interests.

    Or we'd not be there, as founder and primary funding source.

    That's just a reality of the whirled. The United Nations is there, because of US, for US.

    The rest, smoke, mirrors and disinformation.

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  5. I don't disagree, rat. Yes we birthed and we contribute a large chunk to it, but we're not in total control of that place.

    As we're finding out, we don't pull all the strings in the whirled.

    I hear rumblings that we will soon be Chavez and Ahamadjihadi making some moves in the UN.

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  6. If they've read Alinsky, that's where they'd be headed.

    4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
    You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

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  7. The modern term for this is "lawfare". Waging war in the courts. It's especially effective against democratic countries who hold themselves to a 'higher' standard.

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  8. We have to learn to deal with this 'modern piracy' which respects no rules of others but is too happy to use other's rules and laws against them.

    One of the problems of the multi-culti left is that it discounts the evil nature in man and leaves the door open to mischief and mayhem. These days some tribal dude from Waziristan will bring a lawsuit against you.

    In the old days, pirates were dealt with summarily.

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  9. "...they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

    The funny thing about this is that most Christians know this about themselves and the Church. We're all (pagan or religious) hypocrites. No one is capable of keeping all the rules.

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  10. Which begs the question, whit:

    Captain James Cook FRS RN (7 November 1728[1] – 14 February 1779) was a British explorer, navigator and cartographer, ultimately rising to the rank of Captain in the Royal Navy.

    Pirate or not?

    There are certainly people in Hawaii that think him a pirate.

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  11. The primary reason, for authority to create "rules", whit.

    The more the better, so they can be broken.

    As VDH describes here, in his review of California

    Two Californias
    Abandoned farms, Third World living conditions, pervasive public assistance -- welcome to the once-thriving Central Valley.

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  12. Sir Francis Drake, another fella that could be considered a hero, or a pirate.

    Depending upon perspective.

    Knighted by the English Crown, a wanted man by the legal authorities of the Spanish Main.

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  13. WASHINGTON — The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down the ban on gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing to a close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their sexual orientation.

    I keep coming back to this:

    [W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)

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  14. What is the term we should use for fellas that come from foreign lands, with guns, to take control of the heroin trade, in Helmand province?

    Marines or Pirates?

    Matter of perspective and loyalties.

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  15. tribal claims that cross international borders

    A major issue, in Afpakistan.

    A minor one in Arizona, judged by Federal expenditures.

    The Kurds, as well, could seek relief under this new UN announcement of policy goals.

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  16. In 2007 there were four negative votes as regards the Declaration of Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

    4 negative votes cast (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, United States)

    Seems the other three members of England's "Sphere of Colonization" have "seen the light", too.

    United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples

    Affirming that indigenous peoples are equal to all other peoples, while recognizing the right of all peoples to be different, to consider themselves different, and to be respected as such.

    Affirming also that all peoples contribute to the diversity and richness of civilizations and cultures, which constitute the common heritage of humankind.

    Affirming further that all doctrines, policies and practices based on or advocating superiority of peoples or individuals on the basis of national origin or racial, religious, ethnic or cultural differences are racist,


    What's to be against?

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  17. Matter of perspective and loyalties.

    Yes, it is. Sometimes it simply comes down to 'my tribe against yours.'

    Winston Churchill said, "History is written by the victors."

    For my part, I think it is better for the benign to rule and write than have history books and perspective be dictated by a NAZI Germany or the USSR.

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  18. This part leaves a lot of maneuvering room:

    Recognizing the urgent need to respect and promote the inherent rights of indigenous peoples which derive from their political, economic and social structures
    and from their cultures, spiritual traditions, histories and philosophies, especially
    their rights to their lands, territories and resources,


    I'll keep reading. Maybe limits are set further on in the document.

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  19. Article 4
    Indigenous peoples, in exercising their right to self-determination, have the right to autonomy or self-government in matters relating to their internal and local affairs, as well as ways and means for financing their autonomous functions.
    Article 5
    Indigenous peoples have the right to maintain and strengthen their distinct political, legal, economic, social and cultural institutions, while retaining their right to participate fully, if they so choose, in the political, economic, social and cultural
    life of the State.


    Maybe "Indigenous peoples" is described later. My people have been indigenous to the southern United States for over two hundred years. Do we count?

    Also, does this mean that we cannot condemn stoning or clitorectomies? If we continue to do so, are we going to be labeled racist? What is the penalty for being labeled racist? Who will enforce it?

    Just asking?

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  20. Article 6
    Every indigenous individual has the right to a nationality.


    What does this mean?

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  21. Oooh, here's a real tar baby:
    Article 28
    1. Indigenous peoples have the right to redress, by means that can include
    restitution or, when this is not possible, just, fair and equitable compensation, for
    the lands, territories and resources which they have traditionally owned or otherwise
    occupied or used, and which have been confiscated, taken, occupied, used or
    damaged without their free, prior and informed consent.
    2. Unless otherwise freely agreed upon by the peoples concerned,
    compensation shall take the form of lands, territories and resources equal in quality, size and legal status or of monetary compensation or other appropriate redress.

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  22. Meanwhile, other news of note:
    Iran has cut energy and food subsidies, risking a repeat of angry protests which followed fuel rationing in 2007.

    The cuts, introduced on Sunday, mean a four-fold rise in the price of petrol and reduced subsidies for bread.

    Each car will get 60 litres of fuel per month at a subsidised price of 40 cents per litre, up from 10 cents per litre.

    Iran, whose fragile economy has been hit by United Nations sanctions, has said it pays about $100bn (£64bn) in subsidies annually.

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  23. I'm curious as to what you folks (in particular rat) think about the continuing troubles in Korea?

    That war could go hot this week. If the North should respond to the South's weather delayed exercises the South appears ready to strike back. Escalation could happen very quickly. What kind of assets are currently in the region and are they sufficient to strike the North hard and with sufficient effect to win quickly or will a much large mobilization be required?

    And, no, with 28k troops stationed in the South and the integrated military command that exists coupled with the long history of support for the South we won't just simply leave it to them to sort out.

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  24. FT

    South Korea has detained eight Chinese fishermen after their boat collided with a patrol ship, in an incident that left at least one dead and will complicate relations with China at a time when the US and others are pushing Beijing to help broker a detente on the Korean peninsula.

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  25. the Lawless who Rule

    Here's the funny thing about this month's lame-duck session of Congress, in which frantic lawmakers have pinballed from tax cuts to "don't ask, don't tell" to a nuclear weapons treaty:

    It's not supposed to exist.

    In 1933, historians say, the country ratified a constitutional amendment intended to kill off sessions like this - in which defeated legislators return to legislate. The headline in The Washington Post at the time was "Present Lame Duck Session Will Be Last."

    But because of a hole in that amendment, modern Congresses have not only met as lame ducks but have used the post-election session to take some of their most memorable votes.

    On Friday, President Obama signed a giant tax-cut bill that Congress approved this week. That follows the passage of child nutrition legislation this month. And Democratic leaders could repeal the law that bans gays from serving openly in the military as soon as Saturday, before they try to rewrite immigration rules and ratify a nuclear weapons treaty with Russia.

    This year's session has "the most ambitious legislative agenda that's ever been pursued in a lame-duck session since the 20th Amendment," said John Copeland Nagle, a law professor at the University of Notre Dame and one of the obscure amendment's few scholars.

    This lame-duck session, Nagle said, "is exactly what the 20th Amendment was designed to stop."

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  26. Indigenous peoples?

    The world has gone insane...

    Jews are prohibited by the world's opinion and laws to own land in historic Jewish Jerusalem...

    Welcome to the new reality.

    Israel is and was the canary in the mine.

    Look for all kinds of fake nationalistic groups to now claim regions of the USA as occupied lands...

    At some point this insanity will pop and trust me it will not be pretty...

    Look for more groups to copy the fake nationalistic group of death cult terrorists called the palestinians in suicide bombings, stabbings, and murder as they "find" that they now claim LA, San Diego, and Las Vegas...

    These terror groups, funded by the Soros types will be trying to dismantle the west from within...

    They only good NEWS?

    Our very own Rat will be on the hit list as a white squatter in the mountains of AZ, an occupier...

    If you notice despots and dictatorships dont give a hoot about "Indigenous" peoples" so their reign is secure...

    If Jewish Israelis have no right to build 100 yards in front of the western wall what rights do other nations who are NOT actually Indigenous have?

    None...

    Good luck America.... You have become your worst nightmare...

    Talk about self immolation...

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  27. We bought Alaska from the Russians. Who did they buy it from?

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  28. Deuce said...
    We bought Alaska from the Russians. Who did they buy it from?


    they stole it from a few dozen eskimos...

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  29. 4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

    apparently rat is a big fan of Alinsky as this is exactly what he does to israel. equating our noble marines to pirates is another Alinsky tactic. rat does not deserve to live in this country anymore. he would hire criminals to do his bidding, is that anyway to behave as a US citizen?

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  30. Anonymous,

    Have you forgotten? The ratmeister allegedly has a son who served in Iraq during the big show. Said son has disappeared off the radar with the demise of the avatar, Habu.

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  31. The looters of the world are demanding what the producers make...

    it's real simple...

    maybe the producers should go galt????

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