COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Wednesday, November 25, 2009

US Military Brass shafting the US military fighting man once again.



Ahmed Hashim Abed is the alleged mastermind of the killing and mutilation of four American security guards in Fallujah in 2004. Navy SEALS captured Ahmed Hashim Abed.

Ahmed Hashim Abed told US military investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

This picture is of the mutilated body of an American, the handy work of Ahmed Hashim Abed. The US Military is trying US fighting men, who captured Ahmed Hashim Abed, for giving Ahmed Hashim Abed a bloody lip
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Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
By Rowan Scarborough FOX


Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges, sources told FoxNews.com.

The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.

Now, instead of being lauded for bringing to justice a high-value target, three of the SEAL commandos, all enlisted, face assault charges and have retained lawyers.

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.

Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.

Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.


The three SEALs will be arraigned separately on Dec. 7. Another three SEALs — two officers and an enlisted sailor — have been identified by investigators as witnesses but have not been charged.

FoxNews.com obtained the official handwritten statement from one of the three witnesses given on Sept. 3, hours after Abed was captured and still being held at the SEAL base at Camp Baharia. He was later taken to a cell in the U.S.-operated Green Zone in Baghdad.

The SEAL told investigators he had showered after the mission, gone to the kitchen and then decided to look in on the detainee.

"I gave the detainee a glance over and then left," the SEAL wrote. "I did not notice anything wrong with the detainee and he appeared in good health."

Lt. Col. Holly Silkman, spokeswoman for the special operations component of U.S. Central Command, confirmed Tuesday to FoxNews.com that three SEALs have been charged in connection with the capture of a detainee. She said their court martial is scheduled for January.

United States Central Command declined to discuss the detainee, but a legal source told FoxNews.com that the detainee was turned over to Iraqi authorities, to whom he made the abuse complaints. He was then returned to American custody. The SEAL leader reported the charge up the chain of command, and an investigation ensued.

The source said intelligence briefings provided to the SEALs stated that "Objective Amber" planned the 2004 Fallujah ambush, and "they had been tracking this guy for some time."

The Fallujah atrocity came to symbolize the brutality of the enemy in Iraq and the degree to which a homegrown insurgency was extending its grip over Iraq.

The four Blackwater agents were transporting supplies for a catering company when they were ambushed and killed by gunfire and grenades. Insurgents burned the bodies and dragged them through the city. They hanged two of the bodies on a bridge over the Euphrates River for the world press to photograph.

Intelligence sources identified Abed as the ringleader, but he had evaded capture until September.

The military is sensitive to charges of detainee abuse highlighted in the Abu Ghraib prison scandal. The Navy charged four SEALs with abuse in 2004 in connection with detainee treatment.


46 comments:

  1. Military courts for US SEALS. Civil courts for the architects of 911.

    And the US government is going to send another 34,000 to fight their senseless wars?

    Hows your change going?

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  2. This is the result of a military sodden with political correctness.

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  3. Glad I got out of the military, when I did.

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  4. Policemen cannot "rough up" the prisoners.

    That is what we've turned the US military into, policemen.

    Learn it, Live it, Love it.

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  5. A military run by a swill of sycophants that can''t recognize a ranting Muslim Major running around in a sheet as a security threat and a four star general who thinks and states the the bigger tragedy of thirty plus casualties at the hands of the same army major would be the loss of the army's diversity program.

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  6. Today, I happened to be by The US Army War College at Carlisle and was wondering how much time and ink is spilled on diversity.

    I picked up a little ditty called:

    GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR STABILIZATION
    AND RECONSTRUCTION


    The Publisher is the United States Institute of Peace Press and PKSOI (The Peacekeeping and Stability Operations Institute).

    With all due respect, the name of the college is:

    US Army War College

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  7. Interesting area: Shippensburg, Chambersberg, Mercersburg, Pennsylvania.

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  8. Went to the college prep boarding school, in Mercersburg, during my freshman year of high school.

    Nice country, back there, it's really green.

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  9. The new definition of victory is the absence of violence, not the defeat of the enemy.

    Because we have no enemies, there are only individual "evil doers" who must be "brought to justice", "dead or alive".

    War is so, well, yesterday, deuce.

    Piecekeeping and Policing is all the rage, today.

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  10. Goes hand in hand with nation building.

    Words have literal and symbolic meanings and the lexicon of the Department of Defense is no different in that regard.

    The War Department should not be conflated with the Department of Defense. The missions described in the titles require that their goals cannot be not one and the same.

    Which was one reason the name was changed, to set a "new tone".

    Which could either be a cause or an effect, but we have not "won" since.

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  11. All this talk of towns in that neck of the woods reminds me of my favorite town name that way "Nutter Fort".

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  12. Deuce, if you get down into the valley of Virginia and have the time, I would like to buy you a beverage of your choice.

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  13. Unemployment claims down to 466,000. Still losing jobs, but not as many.

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  14. Seasonally adjusted, rufus?

    It's not called "Black Friday" for nothing.

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  15. They're always presented, Seasonally Adjusted. So it's always, "apples to apples."

    It's an improvement.

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  16. Loads of storm clouds out there - US Banks still in trouble, FDIC out of cash (again) and more war...

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  17. I think the point I was trying to make, yesterday, was that the "economy" is going to do what "the economy" is going to do.

    Don't bet the farm on "Any" Guru, right now.

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  18. You've Got to read This. A Computer Programmer tries to make sense/work with The Climate Database

    Most Coherent comment: "Fuck This!"

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  19. "Unemployment claims down to 466,000. Still losing jobs, but not as many."

    Not as many to lose.

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  20. Good morning MLD, good morning Trish, good morning MIss T, good morning to the other nice posters--

    Talking of the names of towns, as far as I know, none of the local historians have been able to track down how Moscow, Idaho became called Moscow in the first place. It's kind of a local mystery, though there are a couple of theories. It doesn't seem to have come from Russians immigrants, as there weren't many of them here.

    New Berlin, or New London, or New Stockholm would make more sense.

    There are three or four other Moscows in the United States, I think.

    If I were in the business of naming towns, I'd try to name them after some feature of the landscape, or maybe where the landscape and the people interact.

    Maybe like a long word for "where the people live where the two rivers come together".

    Something like that.

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  21. Tsceminicum--if I've spelled that right, a Nez Perce word for 'where the two waters meet'.
    Nice name for a town.

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  22. I've always wanted to get back to Virginia, since my family tree traces back to there, very early, pre 1776. I've been close, I've been in West Virginia. I've been in Kentucky, when we got down in that horse country, looked beautiful to me. There's lots of beautiful areas in the United States.

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  23. You may be certain that many Jews do not agree with the policies of the ADL.

    Likewise, you may be certain that many Jews do not agree with cretins who use criticism of the ADL as cover for anti-Semitism.

    It does not take a rocket scientist to know the difference.
    Our resident Jew baiters insult us all when they feign innocence.

    Moreover, the whole matter of the ADL was brought up out of context – nothing new in this tactic – just another cheap, meaningless shot.

    I guess one must stroke the keyboard when one cannot stoke the furnace.

    We do have a couple sick puppies, not unlike Major Hasan, in their own special way.

    bob, as always, you are a gentleman.

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  24. We do have a couple sick puppies, not unlike Major Hasan, in their own special way.

    ?

    WTF?

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  25. Good evening, bob.


    (Without knowing the facts of the case cited, it's hard to say anything at all about it. Therefor I won't. Though it certainly hasn't stopped me often in the past.)

    How things get their names:

    New-found appreciation for COIN though I have (because that's what's done down here) this does call to mind the guys coming to Afghanistan from Iraq to brief on, among other things, "insurgents." In South Asia they were "terrorists" and no one wanted to hear about your "insurgents."

    How much of a difference did that change in terminology make in the scheme of things? I don't know but the very appearance of the new characterization left an ominous impression with those who were still fighting "terrorists" and hoping - really, really hoping - that you would keep your "insurgents" to yourselves, you unserious CENTCOM people.

    Of course, that was some years ago and everyone's got "insurgents" now. And the theater that held on to "terrorists" the longest - the big game preserve that looked on post-invasion OIF as the biggest goat fuck ever - is the one presently circling the drain.

    So back when the Bush administration was still being (somewhat mistakenly, I think) skewered for looking at Iraq and asking, "What insurgency?"...JSOC in Kabul was asking, "What insurgents?" That's how they saw things, respectively.

    It wasn't just that it was called the War on Terror. It was that the assholes running amok WERE indeed terrorists. Until, voila, they weren't. For strict CT people at the time, you might as well have started calling them "persons of undesirable but ultimately not unmodifiable behavior" for all the damage you were going to do with a change of label.

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  26. For all other groups in the mix, who they are, who they represent, matters.

    Now we are told that the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is not representative of the Jews.

    What utter nonsense that is.
    The fully well represent the sentiments of the people of Isreal and the 73% of the Jewish electorate that voted for Mr Obama.

    There can be no denial of that reality. Just as there can be no denial that the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has made statements to the effect that "birthers" are a danger to the United States.

    The ADL describes allen, to a "T"

    "...these assertions are motivated by prejudice, but more common is an intense strain of anti-government distrust and anger, colored by a streak of paranoia and belief in conspiracies.

    Each of the litany a characteristic that allen has displayed while posting here at the Elephant Bar.

    The know his type of hater well, at the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith.

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  27. Tell me, who are they describing, when the ADL says:

    In particular anti-government activists used the issue of health care reform as a rallying point, accusing Obama and his administration of dark designs ranging from “socialized medicine” to “death panels,” even when the Obama administration had not come out with a specific health care reform plan. Some even compared the Obama administration’s intentions to Nazi eugenics programs.

    All points which I have read here, at the EB, in opposition concerning the implementation of any form of Obama Care.
    The Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is pointing directly at bob and those that advocate as he does, calling them a danger to our society.

    Who the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is, what they represent is extremely relevant to any discussion of their charges that US citizens that post at the Elephant Bar are partaking in un-American activities.

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  28. The ADL claims Glenn Beck is a danger to society and should be censored.

    At the American Thinker, this is the thinking:

    Anti-Defamation League Runs Interference for Anti-Israel Obama

    But the American Thinker is not the Friend of Isreal that the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith is. And that is a fact.

    There is no organization that is a greater friend of, or gives more voice to, the Zionist movement than the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, in the United States. And that is a fact.

    And those facts matter in the debate concerning domestic policy, here in the United States of America.

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  29. This is part and parcel of the White House attempt to isolate FOX News, ala Alinsky. I had thought this not the case, as the attacks were not personalized. But now that attacks are personalized, aimed not at Mr Murdock, but Glenn Beck.

    Who's watching Glenn Beck? -- latimes.com
    Nov 25, 2009 ... For the first time in living memory, the ADL is sounding the alarm about a mainstream media personality: Fox News' Glenn Beck, ...


    Alinsky tactics, from the White House, aided and abetted by the Zionists of the Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith.

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  30. Okay, so according to the ADL I'm "Anti-American," as well as "Anti-Semitic." Is that right?

    And, according to Allen, I'm to be equated with a murdering Terrorist. Did I miss anything?

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  31. That pretty much covers it, rufus.

    We can't win for losin'

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  32. The Anti Defamation League of B'nai B'rith does not represent Jews, allen tells us, but he also says that Fort Hood's murdering Major does represent Muslims.

    A total disconnect from reality to claim one, but not the other, could be accurate.

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  33. I'll still be your friend, Rufus.

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  34. Yeah, but you like Bob, best.

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  35. That's cause, Bob's, the nicest to me. He puts me on a pedestal, serenades to me and writes poetry for me. You can't get any better than that.

    Well, you can but...

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  36. I've had to work at it, Rufus.

    You haven't put in the time I have.

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  37. Some of these women don't come easy.

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  38. Waen't Sarah Palin scheduled to be on the Oprah Show?

    Anybody know how she did?

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  39. And, is sex mostly in the mind, or not?

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  40. Is sex moistly in the mind, or not?

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  41. rat is an ass...

    he quotes the ADL and cannot bring his lazy nitwit self to type Israel...

    his positions on all things Israel and Jewish is as credible as obama's positions on meeting a payroll...

    in closing...

    Rat, really as a child we were taught that people like you were beneath talking to...

    so I would simply say...

    go fuck yourself...

    have a nice day

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  42. Deuce,

    That picture and your words under it should be promulgated all over the web. The asymmetry o justice is mindbogling for any common sense person. How does Obama think he will get a way with it? And how dow we think we can best stop him from getting away with him. I'm serious. Weill be back tomorrow to disucss.

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