COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Thursday, November 05, 2009

Can the Republicans screw up the next Presidential campaign?



The Republicans could not be foolish enough to think the American public would go for Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee in 2012, could they? Barack Obama could not possibly be that lucky, you think?

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What the election results mean for Barack Obama and Sarah Palin

Toby Harnden
Telegraph

So, 24 hours after the votes have been counted and as the chattering classes fall silent, what does it all mean? Here are 10 thoughts to take away:
  1. Barack Obama needs to be very afraid. If he doesn’t start to notch up concrete achievements, the Democrats could take a pasting in next year’s mid-terms, setting the stage for his being a one-term president.
  2. Sarah Palin roared and had a considerable impact in New York’s 23rd District, which the Democrat narrowly won. Trouble is for her that the result showed the limits of her appeal. There was no exit polling and so there is much supposition but it seems that her intervention energised conservatives but alienated centrists. Perhaps the national Republican who came out best was Mitt Romney, who decided not to get involved.
  3. The 2008 presidential election was probably an aberration rather than a seismic shift in the political landscape. Obama’s winning formula of massive turnout from the young and the black plus support from independents seems to be a thing of history.
  4. Bob McDonnell’s thumping 18-point win in Virginia shows how Republicans can win again. He and Chris Christie, the New Jersey victor, did not take up Palin’s offer to campaign for them and played down their social conservatism – so this could be bad news for Palinites.
  5. The national Republican party is in disarray. If they don’t get their act together then Obama will win a second term by default if nothing else.
  6. The media narrative about NY23 – that it was about an intolerant Right purging a noble moderate – is rubbish. What happened was a very liberal Republican and awful candidate was chosen in error/arrogance and the people rejected her. She then showed her true colours by sabotaging the GOP. There’s a lot of Democratic gloating but you can bet the farm on a Republican being elected there in a year’s time.
  7. This is likely to make health-care reform more difficult to achieve because conservative Democrats in the House will be fearful of signing their own death warrant by backing Nancy Pelosi and Obama.
  8. Calling your opponent fat is not a winning strategy. Even if he is.
  9. After the result in Maine, the battle over gay marriage is far from over.
  10. It’s the economy stupid and despite all the White House spin, it seems they get that.



154 comments:

  1. There is one solid message and that 2008 was a reaction against George Bush and the Republicans.

    Obama seemed a reasonable alternative.

    Obama will believe that the answer is for him to spend more time on Air Force O and make more speeches.

    Obama should be a single termer. He is incapable of staying out of the limelight and people are tired of him after one year.

    Three more years of listening to speeches by Obama should finish him off.

    The problem is Obama has a secret weapon and that is the Republican Party.

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  2. Israel is gonna hit Iran, Iran is going to close the Strait of Hormuz, oil is going to $200, gas at $6 a gallon, inflation will return, Obama's gonna put on a sweater and give his famous "Debility" speech where he blames Americans for our country's decrepitude and enfeeblement. That's what's going to make him a one-termer. Problem is, there's no Ronald Reagan waiting in the wings.

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  3. The Republicans can screw up, absolutely, Anything.

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  4. Democrats are smart, and evil. Republicans are stupid, and . . . . er, Stupid.

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  5. The Pubs have no one, no Team, that can beat Obama/Clinton.

    Not today, anyway.

    To think that the Dems cannot re-energize THEIR base, with that line-up, well, its' just wishful thinking.

    Romney wouldn't stand a chance.

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  6. Palin would show end results worse than Goldwater.

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  7. I just have a hunch that, due to his background, Obama is the only one in the DC power structure that realizes just how fucked we are in Afghanistan.

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  8. Romney is, by far, our best "National" candidate, right now; but, Rat's right, he probably couldn't get elected. The "party of Stupid" is too concerned with what kind of underwear he wears come Sunday.

    Pawlenty is Smart, but about as "exciting" as a lecture on the theory of crop rotation.

    "I" wouldn't even vote for Huckabee.

    Yeah, we're not in too good a shape.

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  9. I think the best we can hope for is a big "rally" in 2010, and four more years of De One in 2012.

    Total Gridlock from 2012 to 2016.

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  10. I just saw the most Incredible number. Manufacturing Productivity up 13%, annualized in the 3rd quarter. Overall productivity 9%.

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  11. Those four, or five people that still have jobs are working their asses off.

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  12. Because tomorrow they're going to announce an increase to 9.9 % unemployment, and you just KNOW that figure is hand massaged. We get to double digits its all she wrote for Obama's Kneecap and Tax.

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  13. Rufus: The "party of Stupid" is too concerned with what kind of underwear he wears come Sunday.

    I'm more interested in what kind of underwear Palin wears come Friday night.

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  14. Iran Raises Uranium Output as Photos Show Need for Wider Checks

    Nov. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Satellite photos indicate that Iran has increased production at a uranium mine, underscoring the need for wider UN inspections to determine whether the country is trying to build a nuclear weapon.

    Evidence of stepped-up activity at the Gchine mine, near the Persian Gulf coast city of Bandar Abbas, is seen in pictures obtained by Bloomberg News and the Washington-based New America Foundation, according to four nuclear analysts who examined the images. The mine could produce enough uranium to craft at least two atomic bombs a year, experts said.



    hmmmm...

    connecting dots....

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  15. 500 Tons of Weapons for Hezbollah Intercepted by Israeli Navy, 4 Nov 2009
    Massive Arms Shipment Intended for Hezbollah Intercepted by Israel Navy

    Roughly 500 tons of weapons, rockets, and missiles was uncovered aboard the cargo vessel “Francop” flying an Antiguan flag, which was intercepted and brought to the Ashdod port. The Israel Navy force which intercepted the ship included naval commandos, missile boats, intelligence and explosive experts.

    36 shipping containers with 500 tons of weaponry were found on the ship disguised as civilian cargo, and hidden among hundreds of other containers onboard.

    Israel Naval and Engineering Corps forces are currently unloading the containers and are sorting through the various types of weaponry found aboard.

    The naval commando force boarded the vessel and conducted an initial search. The search was conducted in accordance with the usual search protocols as dictated by International Law.

    Following the initial search and after it became clear that the vessel was carrying weapons, the vessel was directed by the Israel Navy to dock at the Israeli Ashdod Naval base for additional searches and a detailed inspection of the hull’s cargo. It should be emphasized that the captain of the ship agreed to the search. The Israel Navy conducted all activity without any force.

    The weapons found onboard the ship originate from Iran, and were intended for the Hezbollah terror organization, for use against the State of Israel and its citizens. The weapons uncovered at sea last night constitute a harsh violation of UN Security Council Resolutions 1747 and 1701 that strictly forbid Iran from exporting or trading any form of weapons.

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  16. Iran Protests Against U.S. and Regime on Hostage Anniversary
    Government Cracks Down on Regime's Opponents During Protests

    By LARA SETRAKIAN
    Nov. 4, 2009—

    Iranian protesters took to the streets today as they do every Nov. 4 to mark the 30th anniversary of the U.S. embassy takeover.

    But this year, opponents of the Iranian regime used the government sanctioned day of street demonstrations to challenge the hard line administration.

    While supporters of the regime led chants of "death to America," crowds nearby shouted "death to the dictator," a veiled reference to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his political ally, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

    State security forces had issued a warning against opposition protests, and broke up the crowds using batons, tear gas, and gunfire.

    The International Campaign for Human Rights cited thousands of protesters collecting in Tehran, Tabriz, Shiraz and other major cities before clashes with security forces. Opposition leader and former presidential candidate Mehdi Karroubi was reportedly injured, struck by a tear gas canister.

    "We probably were one tenth of what we were in Qods Day, but they had many time more of their thugs in uniform out there, with lot of preparation," said one protester, referring to riot police and the state-sponsored rally last month that were also used as an opposition stage. "The government was clearly scared."

    The opposition had organized and publicized its rallies for weeks using graffiti, digital posters distributed online, and messages written in green on paper money.

    The two sides, the regime and the opposition "Green Movement," have reoriented Iran and its politics since this summer's disputed presidential election. It has produced a tangled political scenario.

    The regime has focused on enforcing order at home and negotiating with the West over its nuclear program. While the conservative regime engages in talks with the U.S. and its allies, hardliners continue to blame the West for encouraging opposition protests.

    Opposition supporters, meanwhile, are trying to discourage Washington from negotiating with Tehran. Some protesters today chanted, "Obama, Obama, you're with them or you're with us," a rhyming verse in Persian expressing frustration at U.S. open engagement with Ahmadinejad's government.

    "People are asking him to be clear. They don't want to see him in talks with the regime. They want to make it easier for people to get a visa, do something that could help people have better lives," said one protester.

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  17. trish,

    Re: "wake up and smell the coffee"

    Never touch the stuff!

    In an effort to regain my sea-legs and get "real", I am going to see Men Who Stare at Goats. Afterward, I hope to be beamed up or consume a fifth of Scotch, whichever comes first :)

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  18. What a lot of sexist, misogynist, irreligious perverted scum inhabit this bar!

    Sniffing around Sarah's underwear. Christ!

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  19. I don't trust someone who can't appreciate a snort...

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  20. But then again, I dont automatically trust someone who does like a snort or two...

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  21. The head of the GOP Congressional Committee (to choose GOP Candidates) was on Ingraham's show.

    Mentioned offhandedly that Tea Partiers were "politically unsophisticated."

    The rest of the show was devoted to the avalanche of e-mails she got from outraged rank and file.

    THE STUPID PARTY CAN F... ANYTHING UP.
    ...and probably will.

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  22. I see the movement is to being INDEPENDENT....

    the GOP got it' wings clipped last year, and now the DEM are getting it...

    Change...

    Yep when the dem's get thru with us, that's all we will have...

    change... two nickels and a penny...

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  23. "Men Who Stare at Goats"
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    Would appreciate a review on that, Allen!

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  24. "I see the movement is to being INDEPENDENT...."
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    vs bad party "A" or,
    worse party "B"

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  25. Election Day losses in Virginia and New Jersey have congressional Democrats focused like never before on jobs — their own.


    While the White House and party leaders are urging calm, Democratic incumbents from red states and Republican-leaning districts are anything but; Tuesday's statehouse defeats have left them acutely aware that their votes on health care reform and other major Obama initiatives could be career-enders in 2010 or beyond.


    “I should be nervous,” said Rep. Parker Griffith, a freshman Democrat from Huntsville, Ala.


    Griffith said the Democratic rank and file is “very, very sensitive” to the fact that issues being pushed by party leaders “have the potential to cost some of our front-line members their seats.”


    The Party of Dumb doesn't have to do anything other than let dems be dems.

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  26. Afterward, I hope to be beamed up or consume a fifth of Scotch, whichever comes first :)



    I have a 2 containers to fix today for a very important meeting in front of a campfire....

    one with macallan and the other with glenlivet

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  27. "Those four, or five people that still have jobs are working their asses off."
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    I think that for the last 6 months, they were sitting on their asses as their employers did what they could to avoid bankruptcy.

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  28. I no longer consider myself to be a dem...

    after 30 years it's over...

    but I do not think of myself as a GOPer....

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  29. But I am a so angry with the dem's I'd vote for Mike Huckabee JUST to put a pie in the dem's face...

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  30. "But I am a so angry with the dem's I'd vote for Mike Huckabee JUST to put a pie in the dem's face..."
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    So would I, but how many ex-dems, or anyone else would?

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  31. It's a bad time to be a Patriot.

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  32. Heh, This Is The Kind Of Nonsense That Gives Gays A Bad Name In Many Minds

    Of all the interpretations of Jesus that I have read, this is the first that characterizes him as a transexual woman. Maybe I haven't been paying proper attention.

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  33. G. Wallace had one thing right.

    "There ain't a dime's worth of difference between'em."

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  34. That's why the muzzies crucified him, al-AnonObob.

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  35. Hawaii Update: DoH Confirms They Maintain A Birth Record For Obama Dated From August 1961.
    Posted in Uncategorized on November 5, 2009 by naturalborncitizen
    After various responses from the DoH giving unclear answers to UIPA requests which exclusively pertained to birth documents for Obama dating back to August 1961 – specifically documents which caused his birth to have been “Filed by Registrar August 8, 1961″ – I requested assistance from the OIP. Their interpretation of the DoH response was that of a denial of access. But the OIP also issued guidance as to how I could properly refine my request.

    I took the OIP advice and issued a 6th UIPA request asking for the same documents and limiting any possible wiggle room.

    And to this request I recently received a clear denial of access from the DoH by way of an official OIP form. I also received clear response forms from the DoH as to my previous UIPA requests.

    The form I received is the same posted at the OIP web site. The box which says “denied in its entirety” was checked.

    SIGNIFICANCE

    Prior on target UIPA requests by other researchers had more than one box checked. The denied box was checked and other boxes were checked which could also mean that the DoH did not maintain the record. That policy – at least for my UIPA requests – has now changed as the DoH only checked the “DENIED IN ITS ENTIRETY” box.

    According to OIP administrative rules and guidance from OIP staff attorney Linden Joesting (originally provided to Terri K), the denial of access box can only be checked when the agency does in fact maintain the requested record.

    I requested birth records for President Obama – maintained by the DoH – dated from August 1961. I was only concerned with documents which came into existence no later than August 10th 1961. The DoH has replied by denying access to those records.

    This is a clear statutory admission that they possess records pertaining to President Obama’s birth which came into existence back in August 1961.

    And this is the first clear admission that such birth records exist and are currently maintained by the DoH.

    NEXT PHASE

    The next phase will be to appeal the DoH decision not to release these documents. The law in Hawaii supports such release since both Obama and the DoH have waived privacy protections to those portions of the records which have already been made public. According to precedent in Hawaii, such vital records should be released with any information which has not been previously made public redacted.

    Developing…

    Leo C. Donofrio

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  36. Doug said...
    "But I am a so angry with the dem's I'd vote for Mike Huckabee JUST to put a pie in the dem's face..."
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    So would I, but how many ex-dems, or anyone else would?



    Well the truth of the deal? Most Americans dont SHARE what really scares me...

    I dont see the unemployement rate at 10% as bad...

    I see YEARS and YEARS of the concept "jobs as welfare" coming to an end.. Which I applaud...

    For 2.5 decades there has been an un-natural growth due to chinese money, under appreciated yuan, community re-investment act bullcrap...

    Giving all sorts of "jobs" to people who dont actually perform...

    This is not limited to just a few million "acorn" retards... But all the way up the food chain...

    MBA's coming out of grad schools who never actually made a payroll, starting in jobs at 300k (or more a year)

    I have advocated to a tax on OPEC oil for over a decade.. (when oil was 28-30 a barrel) at that time I wanted to see a minimum price on imported oil to be $60.00 (difference to be directed to domestic energy development)

    Now we are STILL doing NOTHING...

    No new drilling, killing yucca, no new nuke plants, no solar program for strip shopping center roof tops, no new coal plants, no new anything except LIMITED energy production and 20% new taxes on f*cking c02...

    The current powers taht control us are defanging America, wealth transfers to the 3rd world are ramping up and we are being "cuckolded"

    Good ole BHO...

    Last week the current admin announced a new fund (over 100 million) for islamic nations to develop JOBS in technology....

    Americans are freaked about jobs and money...

    I am freaked about America being destroyed, I can live with a rusty car, eating more pasta and keeping the house cooler and wearing a hat....

    Jobs? what a load of shit...

    Time to tell Americans, CREATE your own JOBS...

    Start a business....

    That's the AMerican way, not some bullshit that JOBS are created (like entitlements) by the government....

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  37. "No new drilling, killing yucca, no new nuke plants, no solar program for strip shopping center roof tops, no new coal plants, no new anything except LIMITED energy production and 20% new taxes on f*cking c02... "
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    They're doin it for the Children!

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  38. Dang it, I know what OIP is, but can't think of it. When and if it comes to me, I'll probably forget to post it. It's some office in Hawaii, I think.


    Here in Idleho, where the unemployment numbers have risen, we have a good chance of making the dem congressman a one termer, next year, I do believe. I think we're going to have a good candidate running against him, a Marine fellow that's three generations here. Endorsed by the dreaded Palins, too.

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  39. Tis the Office of Information Practices, al-Doug.

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  40. "Marine fellow that's three generations here. Endorsed by the dreaded Palins, too."
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    Maybe the GOP will run ads against him, also!

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  41. "While there were scores of amendments to the bill that environment committee members wanted to debate and vote on before approving it, they were unable to because of the Republican boycott.

    Under committee rules, at least two Republicans had to be present to debate and vote on changing the bill."-
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    ...from time to time, they get things right.

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  42. In ANY organization the "leadership" will be much more liberal than the members. ANY organization. Republican Party, included.

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  43. Yeah but I read Boxer just disregarded the rules and went ahead anyway. Rules is for suckers, and republicans.

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  44. "“Malia and Sasha are just wonderful kids ,and Michelle is a wonderful mother,’’ Mr. Obama said. “But even in our own household, with all the privileges and opportunities we have there are times when the kids slack off. There are times when they would rather be watching TV or playing a computer game than hitting the books.’’

    Then, to a chorus of oooohs from the crowd, he said that Malia, a sixth-grader at Sidwell Friends School in Washington, had come home with a 73 on her science test not long ago. He recounted how, a few years ago, she had come home with a grade in the 80s, believing that she had ‘’done pretty well.’’ He and his wife corrected her, telling her that their goal was “90 percent and up.’’

    “So here’s the interesting thing: she started internalizing that,’’ the president said, adding that when she came home with a 73 on the science test ‘’she was depressed.’’ He asked her what happened, and she said the study guide didn’t match up with the test. So she vowed to study harder.

    “So she came home yesterday, she got a 95,’’ Mr. Obama said. “But here’ the point: She said, ‘You know , I just like having knowledge.’’

    The moral of the story, in the president’s view: “Don’t just expect teachers to set a high bar. You’ve got to set a high bar."

    Like most liberals, they live by conservative principles for THEIR FAMILIES.
    Classic.
    ...like schoolteachers sending THEIR kids to private schools.
    Here, more than 50 percent do.

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  45. Bob's Link:

    "As EPW procedural rules prohibit modifications or amendments to bills short the attendance of at least 2 minority members, the bill was reported out as written, with no amendments considered or debated.

    And, while many Democrats lamented that limitation during their speeches, all but one -- Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont) -- voted to nonetheless move the bill ahead. "

    WE DON'T NEED NO STINKING RULES OR LAWS!

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  46. President Obama is not the cause of the "end", but an effect.

    And NO, doug, no new tax regime will be the "end" of the country, either. No more so than the graduated income tax was or has been the "end" of US.

    President Obama did not "appear" from thin air.
    He was groomed, mentored and aided.

    By, as rufus informed us, the Sauds and as we all know by Lester Crown of General Dynamics.

    You all wanted to rant about his preacher, when we should have been following the money.

    You fellas are religion-centric, while most of US, we're not. That the GOP is dependent upon such a sizable minority is proving to be a disadvantage.

    Nixon's "Southern Strategy" was to capture the southern, conservative Democrats, not become dominated by them. Now the old school confederacy is about all that's left of the Republicans.

    Interesting historical twist, that.

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  47. The number of Americans now buying into the politically-tainted junk science on which this bill is based has dropped from 47% to 36% in the past year alone.

    And that waning number will make it increasingly difficult to pass what amounts to an enormous and needless exercise in national (and finally international) wealth destruction and redistribution. Particularly if the voting spills over to next year – an election year.

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  48. "And NO, doug, no new tax regime will be the "end" of the country, either. No more so than the graduated income tax was or has been the "end" of US."
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    Massive new taxes while China et al have none will not be any big deal.
    When Pigs Fly.

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  49. I did not say it would not be a big deal, doug. Neither did you.

    You said it would be the end of US. It will not be, that.

    While there are those that would argue that the graduated income tax WAS the end of US.

    I'd not go that far, but the graduated income certainly marked a transitional phase of our progress. Gave the State a proprietary interest in your income activities, which it had never held, before. In fact it had been debated and denied that authority, by the Founders.

    The "Progressive" Income Tax, another gift of the Republicans, circa 1913.

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  50. One could always move to Mexico. They only take about 9% of your money (in comparison to the U.S. haul of 20%.)

    Of course, the "police protection" isn't so hot down there.

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  51. The problem with Mexico is the need to spend an additional 50% of income on various protection rackets. (Note: I have no idea what the actual cost of freedom from harm in Mexico is.)

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  52. allen said...
    The problem with Mexico is the need to spend an additional 50% of income on various protection rackets. (Note: I have no idea what the actual cost of freedom from harm in Mexico is.)


    Well let's see...

    500 hundred a month for police payoffs...

    500 hundred a month for drug cartel payoffs...

    $649 for Glock 22 (40 cal, 15 shot clips)

    $400 for Mossburg 12 gauge.....

    $400 for ammo....

    and for NOT being a GRINGO?

    Priceless....

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  53. Meico's the last place I'd go. Don't know where I'd go, but it wouldn't be there. I'm too old to move anyway. Here at least I know some honest lawyers, if I should ever need 'em. There's something to be said for that.

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  54. Michelle Bachmann is rousing the hastily called crowd at the D.C. demo right now. Pretty good spur of the moment turnout.

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  55. All this health care legislation ought to be held unconstitutional anyway, if it passes. It's the proper responsibility of the states.

    A lot of people are going to be ticked when they wake up and realize they are being forced to pay for abortions, for instance.

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  56. If it is agreed that an elephant is eatten one bite at a time, where to take that first bite follows.

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  57. Speaker Pelosi’s Government-Run Health Plan Will Require a Monthly Abortion Premium

    Posted by GOP Leader Press Office on November 5th, 2009

    Follow @GOPLeader on Twitter for updates.

    Health care reform should not be used as an opportunity to use federal funds to pay for elective abortions. Health reform should be an opportunity to protect human life - not end it.

    Unfortunately, Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page government takeover of health care does just that. On line 17, p. 110, section 222 under “Abortions for which Public Funding is Allowed” the Health and Human Services Secretary is given the authority to determine when abortion is allowed under the government-run plan. The Speaker’s plan also requires that at least one insurance plan offered in the Exchange covers abortions.

    What is even more alarming is that a monthly abortion premium will be charged of all enrollees in the government-run plan. It’s right there on line 16, page 96, section 213, under “Insurance Rating Rules.” The premium will be paid into a U.S. Treasury account - and these federal funds will be used to pay for the abortion services.

    Section 213 describes the process in which the Health Benefits Commissioner is to assess the monthly premiums that will be used to pay for elective abortions under the government-run plan. The Commissioner must charge at a minimum $1 per enrollee per month.

    A majority of Americans believe that health care plans should not be mandated to provide elective abortion coverage, and a majority of Americans do not believe government health care plans should include abortion coverage. Currently, federal appropriations bills include language known as the Hyde Amendment that prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for elective abortions under the Medicare and Medicaid programs, while another provision, known as the Smith Amendment, prohibits federal funding of abortion under the federal employees’ health benefits plan.

    Speaker Pelosi’s 2,032-page health care monstrosity is an affront to the American people and drastically moves away from current policy. The American people deserve more from their government than being forced to pay for abortion.

    House Republicans are offering a common-sense, responsible solution that would reduce health care costs and expand access while protecting the dignity of all human life. The Republican plan, available at HealthCare.GOP.gov, would codify the Hyde Amendment and prohibit all authorized and appropriated federal funds from being used to pay for abortion. And under the Republican plan, any health plan that includes abortion coverage may not receive federal funds.

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  58. Page 94

    Section 202 C

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  59. Prohibits you from buying your own health insurance after 1213, according to Laura, if I got the page and section right.

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  60. "Kill the bill!" the folks are chanting on the Capitol steps.

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  61. Yup, 202 C is right.

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    Every page of the 1,990 bill seems to contain a landmine that could explode on Democrats.

    Tuesday's results were the first sign that voters are revolting against runaway spending and government expansion. But Democrat likely ain't seen nothin' yet if they try to ram through health-care reform. There is nothing in the House bill that would do anything to reverse the voter trend we saw this week.


    Tuesday's Suburban Vote Swing

    Karl Rove


    C'mon, middle class, get out there and bitch!

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  62. Reading Guide to the Pelosi Health Care Reform Bill Yesterday at 3:35pm

    Please read and forward the link to this note ( http://bit.ly/1rGrpW ) to your friends and family. This reading guide includes what we have uncovered in our initial reading of the Pelosi health “reform” legislation (H.R. 3962) introduced by House Democrats.

    Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private individual health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government

    Page 110—Section 222(e) requires the use of federal dollars to fund abortions through the government-run health plan—and, if the Hyde Amendment were ever not renewed, would require the plan to fund elective abortions

    Page 111—Section 223 establishes a new board of federal bureaucrats (the “Health Benefits Advisory Committee”) to dictate the health plans that all individuals must purchase —and would likely require all Americans to subsidize and purchase plans that cover any abortion

    Page 211—Section 321 establishes a new government-run health plan that, according to non-partisan actuaries at the Lewin Group, would cause as many as 114 million Americans to lose their existing coverage

    Page 225—Section 330 permits—but does not require—Members of Congress to enroll in government-run health care

    Page 255—Section 345 includes language requiring verification of income for individuals wishing to receive federal health care subsidies under the bill—while the bill includes a requirement for applicants to verify their citizenship, it does not include a similar requirement to verify applicants’ identity, thus encouraging identity fraud for undocumented immigrants and others wishing to receive taxpayer-subsidized health benefits

    Page 297—Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health insurance— the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama’s presidential campaign

    Page 313—Section 512 imposes an 8 percent “tax on jobs” for firms that cannot afford to purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health coverage ; according to an analysis by Harvard Professor Kate Baicker, such a tax would place millions “at substantial risk of unemployment”—with minority workers losing their jobs at twice the rate of their white counterparts

    Page 336—Section 551 imposes additional job-killing taxes, in the form of a half-trillion dollar “surcharge,” more than half of which will hit small businesses ; according to a model developed by President Obama’s senior economic advisor, such taxes could cost up to 5.5 million jobs

    Page 520—Section 1161 cuts more than $150 billion from Medicare Advantage plans, potentially jeopardizing millions of seniors’ existing coverage

    Page 733—Section 1401 establishes a new Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research; the bill includes no provisions preventing the government-run health plan from using such research to deny access to life-saving treatments on cost grounds, similar to Britain’s National Health Service, which denies patient treatments costing more than $35,000

    Page 1174—Section 1802(b) includes provisions entitled “TAXES ON CERTAIN INSURANCE POLICIES” to fund comparative effectiveness research, breaking Speaker Pelosi’s promise that “We will not be taxing [health] benefits in any bill that passes the House,” and the President’s promise not to raise taxes on families with incomes under $250,000

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  63. Terrorism at Ft. Hood? Sounds like three shooters?

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  64. FORT HOOD, Texas – The U.S. Army says 12 people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting rampage on the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. Lt. Gen Bob Cone said at a news conference that one shooter has been killed and two suspects were apprehended on Thursday. He says they are all U.S. soldiers.

    The shooting began around 1:30 p.m. Cone says that all the casualties took place at the base's Soldier Readiness Center where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening.

    He says the primary shooter used two handguns in the attack.

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  65. The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

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  66. The military said today that "more than one shooter" opened fire in the Soldiers Readiness Processing Center and the Howze Theater on the base.

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  67. Re: Fort Hood

    Major Malik Nadal Hasan is alleged shooter (with two possible accomplices).

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  68. Gee aint that big FUCKING surprise...

    Yeah, I'm the hater.......

    No, I just dont TRUST my COUSINS....

    Abraham should have NEVER banged the maid...

    dam...

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  69. UN General Assembly endorses Goldstone Report
    Arab-backed resolution approved in 114-18 vote with 44 countries abstaining, paving report's way to Security Council despite European concerns.


    I bet the USA will face war crimes for shooting the shooter in Texas...

    You are next...

    BET on it...

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  70. Question:

    What were the rules of engagement for Fort Hood's security forces. It sounds like civilian authorities were first responders.

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  71. The GOP will screw up, they excel at it.

    They are incapable of governing, as their record for 2000 - 2008 proves.

    They govern as statists, because that's what they are.

    They believe in using the police power of the state to interfere in your life to impose their religious values on people as much as the left uses the police power of the state to impose their zany shit on you.

    The left does welfare to the underclass, the GOP does welfare to the C-level officer class.

    With either party, you will end up with a federal boot crushing your neck harder than the day before.

    With either party, your children, grandchildren and great grandchildren will be indentured servants to the Sauds, Chinese, Japanese and international bankers so everyone can get "free" healthcare, retirement, pills, etc.

    Either party will defend the state's ability to run roughshod over you equally.

    Until the GOP breaks with the Bible-thumpers and the corporatists, they will screw up.

    Since the Bible thumpers and the corporatists fill their coffers the most, that will never happen.

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  72. Major Hasan will disappear from the airwaves forthwith.

    This is a "terrible tragedy."

    "Isolated incident."

    Definitely not a raid on a military installation by a dedicated warrior - of the Islamic variety.

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  73. If there's any way possible to do it, this will be spun as a lone, disturbed gunman.

    If forced, some spokesman might concede that the shooter happens to have a surname which sounds middle eastern.

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  74. Some reports said there were a couple of others--hard to spin that as anything other that a terrorist conspiracy, if true.

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  75. one shooter has been killed and two suspects were apprehended on Thursday.

    The lone three gunmen

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  76. I'm betting the other two were under the Major's direct, or cultural, command...

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  77. This is an interview with Brookley Born. She was the head of the CFTC that warned Greespan, Rubin, and Summers that "Unregulated" Derivatives Trading would bring down the system.

    They attacked her, viciously. Even after "Long Term Credit" they hammered her, and continued to let her agency look into unregulated credit default swaps (even though her agency was putatively charged with the obligation.)

    She went back into private practice, and the rest is, as they say, History.

    Interview with Brooksley Born

    Some are Charlatons. Some are Fools. Some, it's just hard to tell. But, they're all Dangerous.

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  78. Don't be surprised to hear:

    "This had nothing to do with Islam. The three were simply disturbed by the hostile workplace environment and the religious discrimination of their fellow soldiers."

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  79. CNN is promoting it as "gang-related."

    How much fuck-all harder can they try to just be a propaganda outfit? I mean, can they?

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  80. "The shooter was a victim."

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  81. Betting pool on how fast the CINC high-tails it to the DC mosque and starts with the "Religion of Peace" groveling?

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  82. CNN is promoting it as "gang-related."

    heh, o my God....Yup, the Major was a gang banger

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  83. If they were "Bible thumpers", you can bet that would be the lede...

    "Right wing Christian extremists unleashed a merciless and coordinated attack which killed and wounded dozens of unarmed soldiers."

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  84. A human caused disaster....

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  85. whit said,

    "Right wing Christian extremists unleashed a merciless and coordinated attack which killed and wounded dozens of unarmed soldiers."

    You can take that to the bank, Bro.

    ...still want the report on the response, if any, of base security...I betting they were packing empty pieces at the get go.

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  86. Anon said,

    "A human caused disaster...."

    Bob, you don't get to be a general officer by being original!

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  87. Had to be At Least one other shooter.

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  88. So, Warren Buffet is buying a railroad, lock, rolling stock and rail. What does he know that others do not?

    I just today found this

    At a time when most trucking companies are struggling to make a profit, JB Hunt leads the pack. How? They put their long haul freight on trains and meet it at the other end for a short haul delivery....

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  89. Lars Larsen is saying how bad Obama sounded during his remarks....brought the incident up as a kind of after thought, after cracking jokes, doing some blah, blah....stunning

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  90. The Army identified the suspected gunman as Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan.

    Hasan, 39, is a licensed psychiatrist from Silver Spring, Md., according to CBS News investigative producer Len Tepper.

    Retired Maj. Gen. Robert Scales told Fox News the massacre did not appear to be the act of a mentally ill or extremely stressed person.

    "This was a deliberate act of execution," he said.


    A sharia shrink, what a hell of a combination.

    If you're not nuts when you go in for a consultation, you will be when you come out.

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  91. Let the spin begin.

    "Major Ben Phillips, a psychologist, estimated that 15 to 30 per cent of returning soldiers had psychological problems, mostly post-traumatic stress disorder or traumatic brain injuries. He said that the soldiers' vulnerability to psychological disorders increased with each deployment, and he equivocated when asked if they were being sent back into action before they were fully recovered."

    Link to rinse cycle

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  92. As a shrink, the Major's military exploits were vicarious, at best. That would seem to rule out PTSD etc.

    It will be interesting to see his notes, if they are recovered.

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  93. On Fox News, James Carafano said that this is beginning to look like a "lone wolf" operation. It could be that talk of accomplices was premature.

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  94. The equivocation has begun:

    "The shootings on the Texas military base stirred memories of other recent mass shootings in the United States, including 13 dead at a New York immigrant center in March, 10 killed during a gunman's rampage across Alabama in March and 32 killed in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history at Virginia Tech in 2007."

    This is a MILITARY base. It is filled with MILITARY personnel and MILITARY weapons. It is supposed to be secure!

    Link to obfuscation

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  95. I still want to know by whom the shooter was taken down, or whether his death was self-inflicted.

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  96. All I can find is 'police officer' or 'local police officer'--that must mean Military Police?

    Killin 12 and wounding 31, there must have been more than one?

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  97. An Austion paper is saying that the additional suspects have been released.

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  98. The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

    Hasan allegedly opened fire and killed 11 people on the base before he was shot dead, bringing the total number of fatalities to 12.

    The general said there were "eyewitness accounts of more than one shooter," and the others were tracked to an adjacent facility.

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  99. Have to wait and see.

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  100. "At a time when most trucking companies are struggling to make a profit, JB Hunt leads the pack. How? They put their long haul freight on trains and meet it at the other end for a short haul delivery...."
    ---
    There was an ad recently that described how incredibly energy efficient trains are for moving freight.
    1 Gallon moves 1 ton 400 miles, or some such.
    Maybe Rufus the Energy Czar has those stats on the tip of his tongue.

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  101. Seems most of the soldiers at Ft. Hood aren't armed. The Ft. has a civilian police and fire department, like a town. This seems really odd to me.

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  102. Congratulations, Trish, on your winning team.

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  103. Hasan's cousin was just on Fox. The family is "shocked," "Hasan was a good American" and had been distressed about the workplace harassment.

    Hasan, an Army phychiatrist, grew up in Northern Virginia and graduated from Va Tech.

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  104. Posse Comitas(sp), Bob. Cain't have all them red-nekked, enlisted men walking around "packin heat."

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  105. Has to be more than one shooter. Has to be.

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  106. Apparently, the Major had previous legal problems with the Army, was scheduled this winter to return to either Iraq or Afghanistan, did not want to. (Who would?) and was sympathetic to Muslim opposition to the US.

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  107. His cousin was just on Fox. Said the asshole had never been to Iraq, or Afghanistan, and was a life-long muzzie, not a "convert."

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  108. There are confusing reports about whether Hasan had converted to Islam and changed his name but his cousin said that Hasan had always been a Muslim.

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  109. Maybe some of the wounded were from friendly fire accidents?

    Bachman's Rally cannot be found in MSM papers.

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  110. whit wrote:

    "Apparently, the Major had previous legal problems with the Army, was scheduled this winter to return to either Iraq or Afghanistan, did not want to. (Who would?) and was sympathetic to Muslim opposition to the US."

    If this is the case, then, what was the Army thinking (no pun or oxymoron intended)?

    And what was the business about "hostile" work environment?

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  111. It may not be a bad idea to let senior NCO's and officers wear side arms. At least then when one of these shootings occur someone can take him down.

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  112. Count on the lid being screwed down tight on this one. In a year (or five) facts will emerge under the Freedom of Information Act. From NOW until then, it's all guess work.

    Oh, and don't plan on anymore "official" statements from anyone above the rank of 2ndLt. Funereal statements are not official.

    Take my word on it, this guy has a sealed file of unfavorable information in someone’s office. You can bet that his activities have been reviewed and vetted by legal counsel. Nobody does nothin’ these days without a legal briefing.

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  113. I would have bet a lot that most people on a military base were armed. Shows you what I know.

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  114. Maybe we should just let any Muzzies that want to leave, "Leave!"

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  115. Fort Hood has military security onsite. This is in addition to civilian security personnel. Whether the base commander authorized his military force to carry ammunition is another matter. Some commanders hesitate, fearing such mishaps as accidental discharge.

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  116. O/T but happier--

    Lonesome Larry Not So Lonesome This Year

    I don't know why, but the runs have been really good this year.

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  117. remember Scotland....

    the doctors....

    NBC News and news services
    updated 8:09 p.m. ET, Sun., July 1, 2007
    LONDON - British security sources tell NBC News that two of the five suspects in custody in connection with three recent terror incidents in Scotland and London are medical doctors and one may have assembled the bombs. Authorities also said they believe that most, if not all, of the suspects come from Middle Eastern countries, including one from Iraq.

    On Sunday, British police appealed for help in tracing movements of a green Jeep Cherokee in the days before it rammed an airport terminal in Glasgow on Saturday. The driver of the vehicle, who set himself on fire, remained in critical condition.

    The attack came 36 hours after police found two Mercedes car bombs packed with fuel canisters, propane tanks and nails parked near a crowded nightclub in London’s teeming theatre district.

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  118. Bob, I took my over and under 12 GA. to every base I was ever on, probably a dozen. Everyone of them required me to keep it in the armory.

    BTW, I decided not to do a post on these type of creeps.

    And on another and far more pleasant note, I realized I did not extend a formal congratulation and welcome to MLD or as T brilliantly repackaged as MeLoDy.

    MLD, please excuse my bad manners.

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  119. Read carefully between the lines, folks. And, yes, he did have an unfavorable record.

    "Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said military officials had told her that Hasan was “pretty upset” about his deployment orders."

    "The Associated Press, quoting military officials, said Hasan received a poor performance evaluation at Walter Reed. The officials would reveal no further details, citing the confidentiality of military records."

    His performance was either "Satisfactory" or "Unsatisfactory". Obviously, his was the latter. This means the Army kept a body to fill a suit.

    link

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  120. Re: "pretty upset"

    Wow! Ya think?!

    What exactly did those people who knew the Major was "pretty upset"?

    Did PC come into play, ya think?

    We are going to keep playing these little "pretty upset" games until one day they kill us. Yeah, wake up and smell the coffee. The train is being engineered by dunces.

    I should not be surprised if we do not wine, dine and waltz the terrorist who takes out an American city with a low yield atomic device. I won't be surprised when some airhead says, "Yeah, he was pretty upset".

    Jeez Louise!

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  121. MeLoDy, it does have a nice ring to it, eh? That, T, sure is brilliant.

    And, no offenses taken some people are just a day late and dollar short.

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  122. Or, I could just spank you for having bad manners.

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  123. "Retired Army Col. Terry Lee told Fox News that he worked with Hasan, who had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee said Hasan got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard to prevent his pending deployment."
    link

    Hey, boys and girls, there is a clue in there.

    So why did the Army keep a guy so vociferously "hostile" to the Army's work environment? (Gee, Brain, why? Well, Pinky, it was a well disguised bid to take over the world, one heart and soul at a time.) Pinky and the Brain

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  124. vixen, alteration of Middle English fixen, from Old English fyxe, feminine of fox

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  125. Truth is, it's a hard thing to have muslims in the military, you never know when they are going to blow.

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  126. Officials reviewed suspect's Web posts

    "The Army psychiatrist suspected of carrying a shooting rampage at Fort Hood, Texas, had come to the attention of authorities six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats, law enforcement officials said Thursday."

    Someone is gonna have some splain'n' to do...wouldn't want to be imprudent...

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  127. So,

    1) Major Hasan's performance at Reed did not meet standard. Instead, of being kept at Reed until his performance did rise to standard or he was discharged from service, he got orders to Hood.

    2) At Hood, the good Major, whose sympathies were utterly hostile to the vast majority of troops serving there, was tasked with working with returning PTSD sufferers...a stroke of genius, if ever there was one.

    3) In his spare time, the disgruntled Major carried on internet communications glorifiying the terrorist methods of our adversaries, the killers of US service members.

    Someone is going to get an Army Commendation Medal for this piece of work, no doubt about it.

    This says about all that needs be said about why, after eight long years, we are stuck tightly in ruts all over the globe. We may have also, inadvertantly, discovered the consumers of all that Afghan opium.

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  128. Guys, I'm telling you something. They bette keep an eye on that Michelle Bachman, dame.

    She just brought 30 or 40,000 people to the "Hill," today. I'm thinking she's looking at 2012.

    She's a pretty "Good Looker," too.

    Bob can fall in love all over again.

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  129. On a happier note, in five more days the good people of Virginia are going to feed John Allen Muhammad a dirt sandwich...small potatoes, to be sure, but a start.

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  130. Point of order...if the "authorities" did not kill the suspected shooter, who did the "authorities" kill? Death, resulting from being riddled with small arms fire, is hard to fake or mistake.

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  131. Knowing that the country is in safe hands, I retire for the night...357 Zig, 9mm Jericho, .40 cal. Zig, 38 laser directed revolver and 000 buckshot at the ready.

    Thank G-d for the Second Amendment. Given the confusion of hospitals, you never know when you might need a friend to make a definitive point.

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  132. I want a ticket of Palin/Bachman and MLD as Secretary of my Estate.


    jeez, the guy is alive?

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  133. "Hasan is a U.S.-born Muslim of Palestinian descent whose parents came to the United States from the West Bank."
    ---
    The Joos made him do it.

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  134. I suggest 100,000 people start sending the shooter spam cans...

    Pork for the Shithead...

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  135. Even Fox News won't come out and call him a Jihadi.

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  136. of Palestinian descent whose parents came to the United States from the West Bank

    Hell of a way to say 'thanks' for the hospitality.

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  137. Wonder what mosque he was attached to.

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  138. On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

    "I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

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  139. I find this interesting--

    31. PA Cat:


    The perp was shot by a female police officer. Score one for the West.


    Nov 5, 2009 - 9:32 pm

    32. Delia:


    31. PA Cat:

    “The perp was shot by a female police officer.”

    OH snap! Especially considering:
    “A co-worker at Walter Reed said Hasan would not allow his photo to be taken with female co-workers, which became an issue during Christmas season when employees often took group photos. Co-workers would find a solo photo of Hasan and post it on the bulletin board without his permission.”

    HA!


    Reminds me of when my sis was working as a med. tech. in Oakland, maybe it was LA, anyway she had a muzzie boss, who hounded her no end. 'You're a woman, you're a woman' blah blah. Finally she couldn't take it anymore, filed something or other, quit, went elsewhere.

    It was then I first became feed up with the muzzies.

    I got a couple other stories too, but these folks have trouble with the ladies.

    Nuts to them. Assholes.

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  140. Surrender: US offers Taliban 6 provinces -- Taliban says no
    They rejected the offer; they'd prefer to have the whole thing, thank you.

    "US Offers Taliban 6 Provinces for 8 Bases," by Aamir Latif for Islam Online, November 2 (thanks to all who sent this in):

    ISLAMABAD - The emboldened Taliban movement in Afghanistan turned down an American offer of power-sharing in exchange for accepting the presence of foreign troops, Afghan government sources confirmed.
    "US negotiators had offered the Taliban leadership through Mullah Wakil Ahmed Mutawakkil (former Taliban foreign minister) that if they accept the presence of NATO troops in Afghanistan, they would be given the governorship of six provinces in the south and northeast," a senior Afghan Foreign Ministry official told IslamOnline.net requesting anonymity for not being authorized to talk about the sensitive issue with the media.

    He said the talks, brokered by Saudi Arabia and Turkey, continued for weeks at different locations including the Afghan capital Kabul.

    Saudi Arabia, along with Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates, were the only states to recognize the Taliban regime which ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001.

    Turkish Prime Minister Reccap Erodgan has reportedly been active in brokering talks between the two sides.

    His emissaries are in contact with Hizb-e-Islami (of former prime minister Gulbadin Hikmatyar) too because he is an important factor in northeastern Afghanistan."

    A Taliban spokesman admitted indirect talks with the US.

    "Yes, there were some indirect talks, but they did not work," Yousaf Ahmedi, the Taliban spokesman in southern Afghanistan, told IOL from an unknown location via satellite phone.

    "There are some people who are conveying each others' (Taliban and US) messages. But there were no direct talks between us and America," he explained....


    JihadWatch

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  141. Hugh | November 5, 2009 8:01 PM | Reply
    The Pentagon, the American military, the Army, those who run Fort Hood, are guilty, in their refusal to recognize the effect of Islam on the minds of men, in their wilfull ignorance of what is contained in Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, in their continual pretend-belief that only the obvious "extremists" are a danger to non-Muslims, are guilty of criminal negligence. And the government of this country, and the governments of other non-Muslim countries who refuse to take Islam seriously, refuse to halt all Muslim immigration and work to diminish the number of Muslims present in our imperilled non-Muslim societies and states, are guilty of the same criminal negligence. Everyone in authority -- brief authority --in the Western world who presumes to protect and defend "the people," has a duty to learn about Islam. Not from John Esposito. Not from the sly propagandists, Muslim and non-Muslim collaborators alike, that is the True Believers and the hirelings, or the ideological sympathizers with Islam as "anti-Western." But, in the main, from two sources: the great Western authorities on Islam, such as Snouck Hurgronje, Joseph Schacht, Franz Rosenthal, Henri Lammens, Samuel Zwemer, St. Clair Tisdall, and a hundred others, and from the articulate apostates from Islam, such people as Ibn Warraq, Nonie Darwish, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, Magdi Allam. Their testimonies have been published;t they are eager to help explain the Muslim mind, the mind of those brought up in societies suffused with Islam. But those who rule over us think they have no duty to learn from these sources. They prefer to listen to the smiling, affable, so-trustworthy Muslims on their staffs, or in the pay of the government. They are easily fooled. They are too lazy to do the necessary work that only they -- not their staffs, who prepare those simplify bullet-riddled Exective Summaries. Nothing but immediate, and detailed knowledge, of the texts and the tenets and the attitudes and the atmospherics of Islam, will do.


    Hugh, JihadWatch

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