COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Wednesday, July 30, 2008

"This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for," ..."I have become a symbol of the possibility of America."


After 911, I was struck by the supreme confidence of the Islamic terrorists in their righteousness and their evil cause. It became apparent to me that what separated the Islamic world from most of the rest was their sense of mission. Muslims have no doubt as to their place in the universe. It is in their culture and their belief system. It is the way they are raised and it is their sense of mission.

Obama shares that trait. Obama is also delusional. Dana Milbank takes him apart:

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President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour


Congress offers adulation to the self-elected president.


By Dana Milbank Wapo
Wednesday, July 30, 2008



Barack Obama has long been his party's presumptive nominee. Now he's becoming its presumptuous nominee.
Fresh from his presidential-style world tour, during which foreign leaders and American generals lined up to show him affection, Obama settled down to some presidential-style business in Washington yesterday. He ordered up a teleconference with the (current president's) Treasury secretary, granted an audience to the Pakistani prime minister and had his staff arrange for the chairman of the Federal Reserve to give him a briefing. Then, he went up to Capitol Hill to be adored by House Democrats in a presidential-style pep rally.

Along the way, he traveled in a bubble more insulating than the actual president's. Traffic was shut down for him as he zoomed about town in a long, presidential-style motorcade, while the public and most of the press were kept in the dark about his activities, which included a fundraiser at the Mayflower where donors paid $10,000 or more to have photos taken with him. His schedule for the day, announced Monday night, would have made Dick Cheney envious:

11:00 a.m.: En route TBA.

12:05 p.m.: En route TBA.

1:45 p.m.: En route TBA.

2:55 p.m.: En route TBA.



5:20 p.m.: En route TBA.

The 5:20 TBA turned out to be his adoration session with lawmakers in the Cannon Caucus Room, where even committee chairmen arrived early, as if for the State of the Union. Capitol Police cleared the halls -- just as they do for the actual president. The Secret Service hustled him in through a side door -- just as they do for the actual president.
(more if you can take it)

121 comments:

  1. 97 days, then what will the threads be about?

    I am convinced that Obama should not get my vote. I am just as convinced Maverick is worse.

    We have yet to have a thread that even mentions him, as the central figure.

    Go Bob Barr!!!

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  2. DR, I wake and try and restrain myself. I really do. I really really try, but it is so so hard.......

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  3. High oil prices, Maverick blames Obama.
    The security measures taken by the Secret Service, that's pure Obama

    Same with the Capital Police.

    Victory in Iraq, Obama, too?

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  4. These are the topics at Real Clear Politics:

    The GOP Suffers a New Setback - Cillizza & Kane, Washington Post

    Obama's Women Problem - Dick Morris, The Hill

    President Obama Continues Victory Tour - Dana Milbank, Washington Post

    McCain Talks Straight on Fan-Fred Reform - Lawrence Kudlow, RCP

    What His Trip Taught Us About Obama - John Heilemann, NY Magazine

    Teaching Law, Testing Ideas, Obama Stood Apart - Jodi Kantor, NY Times

    Vice President Kaine? - Larry Sabato, UVA Center For Politics

    Why is the Dem Always a Flip-Flopper? - Jonathan Chait, New Republic

    Can Iraq's New Calm Hold? - Gordon Lubold, Christian Science Monitor

    Al-Qaeda's Sinister Creep into N. Africa - Amir Taheri, Times of London

    Muslim Men and the Roots of Anger - Salim Mansur, National Post

    Cartooning And Islam Don't Mix - Margaret Wente, Globe & Mail

    How to Shake Off the Mortgage Mess - Holman Jenkins, WSJ

    Future is Even Blacker for Labour Than It Seems - Iain Martin, Telegraph

    WFB, Playboy & the Struggle for the Soul of America - James Rosen, RCP

    Known Unknowns About Obama - Richard Cohen, Washington Post

    How Obama Can Improve His Message - Jay Cost, RealClearPolitics

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  5. Mydamn Speaker

    "I suddenly felt crowded in my chair. It was truly an astonishing experience, as if Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Mott, Alice Paul, and all the other suffragettes and activists who had worked hard to advance women in government and in life were right there with me. I was enthralled by their presence, and then I could clearly hear them say:

    “At last we have a seat at the table.”

    After a moment, they were gone."

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  6. And point in fact , five of the last six posts have not been about him. Today's was irresistible.

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  7. It is the same at RCP and their list of links. All Obama, all the time.

    While the national poll swings left and right, the RCP state map has yet to change.

    There is no herd of Mavericks on a stampede, perhaps it's early yet. Perhaps the cowboys are on strike.

    Where are the community organizors for Mav? At this point in '04 the Bush folk were all over my wife and I, e-mails, phone calls, enthusiastic evangelicals pumping up the vote for George.
    This year John Shadegg is the only one that's called, he distanced himself from Maverick, in the call, on immigration reform.

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  8. Statisticly you may be correct, duece, but the perception lingers.

    Wgere are the McCain support threads?
    Touting Carbon Cap & Trade. closing Gitmo and ending the waterboarding torture technique?

    Where is the support for Comprehensive Immigration Reform?

    These are the keystones to a McCain Administration, why are we so thin with support for the McCain program?

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  9. What to do about Pakistan, that US ally that supports and gives sanctuary to Islamic radicals on the Afghani front?
    McCain says he'll call his old friend Mushi and square things away, Obamam says, well, what ever he wants to say.

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  10. Why is Maverick not all over this Senator Stevens fiasco. Calling upon him to resign, take his shit and go back to the land of the midnight sun?

    Draw a hard line, on earmarks and corruption.

    Instead there is only the sound of silence, from Camp Maverick, out there in the energy vortex.

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  11. I just was sitting on the can...

    Something was weird, and I looked down between my thighs and guess what I saw?

    An Obama....

    Just bobbing in the toilet water...

    So what did I do?

    I flushed...

    poof...

    I am the change I can believe in...

    I choose fresh toilet water, obama free

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  12. Georgia is on their mind

    Their job is made easier by the enthusiasm gap, which is creating impassioned pockets of Obama supporters even in GOP strongholds who can be mobilized at minimum cost. The effort could pay off in tightening polls, an even bigger donor pool and votes.

    A Politico analysis of the candidates’ spending in Georgia — not including advertising — since January 2007 found that overall, McCain has spent $441,895 to Obama’s $335,671.

    But half of McCain’s cash, $220,613, has gone to three people, all of whom are fundraising consultants.

    In the most recent financial disclosure reports released last week, McCain lists 13 Georgia-related expenses for June, which total $46,723.

    Almost all of the payments were related to a Savannah campaign stop in May. McCain hasn’t hired any full-time field staff in Georgia and he’s not running any commercials on television there.

    Obama listed 22 Georgia payments in his June financial disclosure form totaling $11,503. Of them, 13 were staff payroll costs. Since June 20, he’s aired $1.6 million in positive, biographical advertisements on Georgia stations, according to Evan Tracey, founder of the Campaign Media Analysis Group.

    “They are treating the money they spent in the primaries as organizational investments and relying on them to form the foundation for the general election,” said Anthony Corrado, a nonpartisan campaign finance expert.

    “Rather than retooling or starting over, they are just building out from the organizational structure they began months ago in some of these states,” he added.

    The McCain campaign is dismissive of their opponent’s effort to turn so many red states to blue.

    “I cannot begin to analyze or make sense of the political strategy employed by the Obama campaign,” said Tucker Bounds, a McCain spokesman.
    ...
    While the McCain camp is holding its nerve, some Georgia Republicans are sounding the alarm.

    “They are absolutely convinced Georgia is in the bag,” said Matt Towery, a former Republican candidate and strategists whose firm, InsiderAdvantage, recently released a poll showing McCain with a razor-thin lead.

    “I know this state like the back of my hand,” said Towery. “If they think Georgia is a guarantee for them, they are insane.”
    ...
    After two decades of toil in the state’s political trenches, former Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes mentally does the math: If Obama’s team can register 250,000 new voters and just half of them show up to vote for Obama and Barr’s Libertarian ticket peels eight percent of the vote away from McCain, “it would be revolutionary.”

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  13. Al-Qaeda's sinister creep into North Africa
    As the jihadists face defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan, they are moving stealthily into a new power base

    Amir Taheri

    Morocco, long recognised as one of the most moderate and peaceful countries in the Muslim world, may prove more vulnerable.

    Visitors returning after three or four years would be struck by changes in the urban scenery. The number of al-Qaeda-style beards has grown along with the number of neo-hijab headscarves designed to identify women as partisans of jihad. Women in jeans or mini-skirts have all but disappeared from public, along with all females who favoured the colourful dress of the Berber. One sees countless women draped in black that remind one of Hitchcock's The Birds. Jihadist propaganda is sold on the streets in stalls provided by the municipal authorities.

    Fewer and fewer places serve alcohol, and parts of the main cities are becoming no-go areas for foreign tourists. Over the past year, almost 1,000 people have been arrested in connection with terrorism after attacks that claimed at least 60 lives.

    Few of the jihadists come from the poor and illiterate slum-dwelling masses. Most of those arrested are graduates, often from well-to-do middle-class families.

    More disturbing is that dozens were army, police and security officers. According to a senior official, the jihadists used the Army to obtain military training and the Government had to abolish the conscription system that obliged all male Moroccans to join the Army for two years. The Government has also banned military personnel from attending mosque congregations.

    Moroccan Islamists use a more sophisticated strategy than their Algerian counterparts. While preparing for armed action and terrorism, they have also created a range of charities offering services that the Government fails to provide, such as interest-free loans, medical care, scholarships, support for newlyweds and subsidised travel to Mecca. All are handled under the umbrella of the Justice and Benevolence foundation, an old branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Moroccan Islamism has its own political facade, the Justice and Development Party ( PJD) copied from the Turkish model known as the AKP. Hundreds of PJD cadres have been trained in Turkey.

    In imitation of the AKP, the PJD has participated in elections and presented itself as an Islamic version of European Christian Democratic parties. It has also worked hard to reassure the US. Its leaders have been invited to Washington and its young cadres employed in Congress.

    Last year when King Muhammad VI wanted to ban the PJD, the US intervened to dissuade him.

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  14. The AKP, they've been in the news lately. The Turkish Supremes may ban the Party. Can you imagine, it'd be like banning the Democrats here in the US.

    Verdict soon on closing Turkey's ruling party
    By Paul de Bendern

    ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey's highest court could decide as soon as Wednesday whether to ban the ruling AK Party for Islamist activities, Radikal and Sabah newspapers said.

    The AK Party won a sweeping re-election with 47 percent of the vote last year and denies charges of violating the secular constitution by supporting Islamist activities.

    Financial markets have rallied on optimism over the past week the Constitutional Court will rule not to ban the AK Party. The lira currency rose nearly 1.5 percent against the dollar and shares gained three percent.

    Radikal and Sabah newspapers said a verdict by the secularist judges could come as early as Wednesday or Thursday.

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  15. Krispy Kreme agrees to 25 franchises in Turkey

    Winston-Salem-based Krispy Kreme Doughnuts Inc. announced Tuesday it has reached a franchise agreement with a division of the Almana Group to develop 25 retail locations during the next five years in Istanbul, Turkey.

    Almana Group also operates franchises for KFC and Pizza Hut in Turkey.

    "We're confident that the Almana Group, with their extensive restaurant experience, is uniquely qualified to introduce Krispy Kreme in this important marketplace," said Jeff Welch, senior vice president and general manager of global franchise operations and development for Krispy Kreme.

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  16. Sounds like Phoenix, just substitute Mexican for Pakistani and Central America for Africa and United States for EU.

    Report: 13 dead illegal immigrants found in Turkey

    ISTANBUL, Turkey: A Turkish news agency says the bodies of 13 illegal immigrants, mostly Pakistanis, have been found in a field on the outskirts of Istanbul.

    Dogan news agency said Wednesday that police found the corpses a day earlier.

    Thousands of immigrants from Asia and Africa enter Turkey illegally every year. From there, many try to reach the European Union in search of jobs and a better life.

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  17. Turkey: Air Attack on Kurds in Iraq

    Turkish warplanes attacked Kurdish rebels in Iraq on Tuesday, killing a group of guerrillas gathered at a mountain cave, the military said. In a statement, the military said warplanes attacked suspected rebel targets in a region in northern Iraq where the leadership of the rebel Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or P.K.K., is based. Firat News, a pro-Kurdish news agency, said the bombing was immediately followed by shelling by Iranian forces not far away.

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  18. SKorea, Turkey in $400 mln USD tank deal

    SEOUL (AFP) — South Korea said it has signed a 400-million-dollar contract to help Turkey develop a new tank, in what will be the first time Seoul has exported tanks or related technology.

    Under the deal signed in Ankara on Tuesday, South Korea will help Turkey develop its new main battle tank by 2015, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) said in a press statement.

    "The Turkish government has recognised our rich experience and advanced technology in developing battle tanks," DAPA said. "It also demonstrates the superiority of our defence technology."

    The deal includes technology transfer worth 330 million dollars and the production of four prototypes worth 70 million dollars, Hyundai Rotem said.

    When development is completed, Turkey reportedly plans to produce some 200 of the tanks.

    "This project is a new landmark in the two countries' cooperation in defence technology," Defence Minister Lee Sang-Hee was quoted as saying by Yonhap news agency.

    Turkey is one of the largest customers of South Korean defence products.

    State-funded Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) last year signed a 500-million-dollar contract to deliver 55 KT-1 trainers to Turkey's air force by 2013.

    Yonhap said Turkey also wants to buy some 100 million dollars worth of weapons, including 155mm self-propelled artillery, from South Korea this year.

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  19. See how neatly Amir Taheri ties the Turkish government to Al-Qaeda and the jihadist movemennt.

    While the US and it's allies continue to do business with them.

    While providing $400 million USD in military equipment to the Lebanese Army, which has allied itself with HB militias, south of the Litani.

    We've got on that Peace Train

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  20. Obama claims to be a citzen of the World, and was pooh-pahhed, but here is what Mr Bush is doing, today, h/tRCP:

    President Bush has a Cabinet meeting scheduled for today before signing a bill to reduce tuberculosis and malaria around the globe.

    The US has already embarked upon the World Policeman and World Doctor roles, we Americans are all World Citizens, too.
    Damned good ones, at that.

    That shining city on a hill
    We are the World, remember?

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  21. We skipped over national health care and moved on to international health care.

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  22. The election is about approving or rejecting Obama.

    McCain is the invisible opponent.
    (to all but 'Rat)

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  23. Well, doug, there is truth to that

    rufus and mat have accepted the Obama Energy plank as paramount, and are in step with T Boone.

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  24. WASHINGTON: The US Senate voted to triple spending for a much-acclaimed programme that has treated and protected millions in Africa and elsewhere from the scourges of AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis.The 80-16 vote committed the US government to spending up to $48 billion over the next five years for the most ambitious foreign public health program ever launched by the United States.
    ...
    "Travelling in Africa earlier this year, Laura and I had our most recent opportunity to witness the effectiveness of this programme," he said. "We were honoured to see the doctors, nurses and caregivers of all faiths working to save the lives of their fellow citizens. And we met the patients, including many children, who understand and appreciate America's generosity."


    The Fannie/Freddie fiasco amounts to just $25bn USD, and it is allowed to destabilize the US economy.

    We are the World

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  25. Self-Elected President Obama meets w/Treasury Sec Wolfson.

    Wolfson agrees to brief Obama during the campaigns closing months!

    (Wolfson urged Bush to approve the freddymac Giveaway)

    Buttfuck Bush resuscitates the Clintons, gets Barry elected.

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  26. Get even w/the shrub:
    Vote McCain!

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  27. I think McCain is doing himself a great disservice not educating himself on the issue of energy independence and not moving more aggressively on that front. A stuff of four people to assess hundreds of applications for solar energy plants pending is a joke. It's been years and they have yet to even process a single application.

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  28. May 19, 2008
    A national co-chairman of Senator McCain's presidential bid, Thomas Loeffler, has quit less than a week after a report in The New York Sun highlighted his work as a registered lobbyist for Saudi Arabia.

    "Mr. Loeffler has resigned his position with the campaign," a spokesman for Mr. McCain, Tucker Bounds, said yesterday. He would not elaborate on the reasons ...


    Which respects everyones privacy, but other folks will elaborate on the reasons

    Loeffler's firm also has lobbied for other foreign interests and foreign governments. Newsweek reported over the weekend that Loeffler's firm was paid $15 million by Saudi Arabia. The news magazine also said Loeffler listed meeting McCain along with the Saudi ambassador to "discuss US-Kingdom of Saudi Arabia relations,"

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  29. Statement of John McCain to the
    National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
    May 22, 2003


    ...
    Saudi Arabia

    The role of Saudi Arabia in the rise of a global terrorist network deeply hostile to America must be a part of the commission's deliberations. The role of Saudi policy and Saudi money, from both official and private sources - including members of the royal family - must be fully investigated and made public. Until Saudi Arabia itself was attacked last week, the Saudi leadership and public had clearly failed to acknowledge and learn from the Saudi role in the terrorist attacks of September 2001. The United States and Saudi Arabia cannot enjoy a normal relationship, much less the relationship of allies, as long as Saudi leaders continue to deny and deceive us about Saudi culpability in the rise of extremist terrorism. The U.S. government's reluctance to address this issue directly must not extend to your work.

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  30. The NYSun:

    The bigger problem for Mr. Loeffler may not have been the work he did for the Saudis, but the work he didn't do. Between June and November 2007, his firm was paid nearly $1 million by the Saudis, but reported no meetings with lawmakers, American officials, or anyone else. "It seems like an awful lot of money to be paid for twiddling your thumbs," William Alston of the Sunlight Foundation, which first noted the discrepancy last month, said. "It almost looked like an investment in a potential McCain presidency."

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  31. Bobal, that ad highlights the problems/mistakes McCain is making. He is framing everything relative to Obama.

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  32. Our dear host as well - everything is Obama this Obama that never McCain is great (well, we have heard he was a POW...)

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  33. All Obama, all the time

    Maverick afraid to be filmed moving his lips.



    Turkey's Constitutional Court has decided not to ban the ruling AK Party, accused of undermining the country's secular system.

    But the judges did cut half the AKP's treasury funding for this year.

    The AKP, which won a huge poll victory last year, denies it wants to create an Islamist state by stealth. It called the case an attack on democracy.

    The powerful military sees itself as the guardian of the modern secular state founded by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

    Court president Hasim Kilic said the financial sanctions imposed on the AKP were a "serious warning".

    At least seven of the 11 court judges would need to vote in favour for the party to be banned. But six judges wanted a ban and five did not want to do so.

    "I hope the party in question will evaluate this outcome very well and get the message it should get," Mr Kilic said.

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  34. "Maverick afraid to be filmed moving his lips."

    Ya, especially after moving them to say "Iraq Pakistan border" and while hectoring Obama on the surge; totally getting the Awakening timeline wrong.

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  35. As to the Obama Quote of the Day, this is what is said to have been said, complete and in context

    one leadership aide said the full quote put it into a different context. According to that aide, Obama said,

    "It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign -- that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol."


    Which is why the Stars & Stripes were waving in the wind, in Berlin.

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  36. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52f_1217434061&p=1

    Ludacris Releases Song Attacking Hillary Clinton
    Ludacris, rapper and avid supporter of Barack Obama (Obama once claimed to have Ludacris in heavy rotation on his iPod) has released a new song called 'Politics: Obama Is Here' in which he attacks Hillary Clinton as an 'irrelevant bitch'.

    Lyrics:
    I'm back on it like I just signed my record deal
    yeah the best is here, the Bentley Coup paint is dripping wet, it got sex appeal
    never should have hated
    you never should've doubted him
    with a slot in the president's iPod Obama shattered 'em
    Said I handled his biz and I'm one of his favorite rappers
    Well give Luda a special pardon if I'm ever in the slammer
    Better yet put him in office, make me your vice president
    Hillary hated on you, so that b^$&%* is irrelevant
    Jesse talking slick and apologizing for what?
    if you said it then you meant it how you want it have a gut!
    and all you other politicians trying to hate on my man,
    watch us win a majority vote in every state on my man
    you can't stop what's bout to happen, we bout to make history
    the first black president is destined and it's meant to be
    the threats ain't fazing us, the nooses or the jokes
    so get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote!
    paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified
    McCain don't belong in ANY chair unless he's paralyzed
    Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped
    Ball up all of his speeches and I throw em like candy wrap
    cause what you talking I hear nothing even relevant
    and you the worst of all 43 presidents
    get out and vote or the end will be near
    the world is ready for change because Obama is here!
    cause Obama is here
    The world is ready for change because Obama is here!

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  37. IF they want race to be the issue i guess they dont know that they are only 15% of the vote...

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  38. Lude-a-who?

    More Americans will see presidential campaign ads before Election Day because of Democrat Barack Obama's deep pockets and his quest to expand the number of competitive states in his race against Republican John McCain.
    Obama and McCain advertise in about a dozen battleground states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania. Obama's stronger fundraising means he can afford also to run ads in states such as Alaska and Montana that rarely see general election TV spots — as well as air his commercials nationally during NBC's broadcast of the Olympic Games next month.

    "The one thing Obama will do differently than previous candidates is do more national television buys," says John Geer, a political advertising expert at Vanderbilt University. "Because he has a plan to go after so many different states, in some cases, it's going to be more effective" than buying ad time in individual markets.

    Obama has spent $27 million on general-election ads and McCain has spent $25 million, according to Evan Tracey of Campaign Media Analysis Group, which tracks political ads.

    Political campaigns almost always buy ad time in local markets, city by city, to target their ads more precisely. As a result, many Americans never see a presidential ad — while some see thousands. Most political ads in June, for example, appeared on morning and evening news shows, Jeopardy and Oprah, according to Tracey's group.

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  39. desert rat said...
    Lude-a-who?

    The Messiah's favorite rapper...

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  40. This inspires me:

    ..."the first black president is destined and it's meant to be
    the threats ain't fazing us, the nooses or the jokes
    so get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote!
    paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified..."

    That is the real sentiment. I believe it and I am amazed at the naive American public that does not.

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  41. McCain moves his lips on taxes when asked if he was prepared to raise taxes for Social Security:

    "There is nothing that's off the table. I have my positions, and I'll articulate them. But nothing's off the table. I don't want tax increases. But that doesn't mean that anything is off the table"

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080729.wibbitson30/BNStory/usElection2008/home

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  42. The Congress passed an apology. Reparations will be next.

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  43. This race is about race. More people will vote for Obama because he is black than will oppose him for being so. I thought he was full of shit the first time I heard him. His wife, choice of career, church and associates tell me all I need to know about him.

    His new prance is a slicked out strut, more sophisticated than your generic shuck and jive. If he loses, there will be rioting in the streets. Any bets?

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  44. Dennis Perrin has something to say about the race issue:

    "What is the fatal switch that flips someone into killing mode? Primarily those who prey on the unarmed and unsuspecting? I think of this every time an angry, atomized person opens fire in public, for it must go deeper than mere social frustration. In Jim Adkisson's case, the asswipe who went ballistic on a Unitarian congregation in Tennessee, officials say that he blamed his sorry life on liberals and gays. Clearly, here is a confused fuck who couldn't separate his twisted personal demons from abstract tormentors like Obama-loving queers. Then again, I wonder how much negative weight Obama's possible election pressures the weak minds of guys like Adkisson. He can't get a job, and here some nigra's gonna run the country. Maybe that's all it does take to set these assholes off. And I seriously doubt that Adkisson's the only one."

    http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/

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  45. But Perrin articulates nicely the problem I have with Obama:

    "...with lots of dead and mangled Afghans in the foreground. As my friend Chris Floyd put it:

    "For years now, 'serious' liberals have repeated the mantra that Bush 'took his eye off the ball' in the War on Terror by fighting in Iraq instead of focusing on Afghanistan, the 'good war,' the 'right war.' Now Obama looks set to call their bluff: 'You wanted a big war in Afghanistan? Here it is. Now what?'

    "Now what indeed. No doubt we will soon be treated to the spectacle of many staunchly 'anti-war' leopards changing their spots. We will hear them supporting the same kind of 'counter-insurgency tactics' in Afghanistan that they now decry in Iraq. We will hear the same justifications for 'collateral damage' in Afghanistan that we now hear from rightwingers defending atrocities in Iraq. We will hear them advancing the same arguments for a continuing (and growing) American military presence in a volatile Muslim land that we have heard for years from Iraq hawks. And we will hear the same excuses for not joining the combat in a war they support that we have heard from the vast Chickenhawk Army of rightwing warmongers concerning Iraq."

    http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/

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  46. Meanwhile with 30,000 or so Coalition troops on the fars side of the Pakistani bridge ...

    Once the leakers have convinced reasonable observers that the ISI, and perhaps the broader Pakistani security establishment, is effectively in league with the Taliban and al Qaeda, the U.S. side will no longer be able to carry on as before. It would be untenable for a U.S. president to speak the same soothing platitudes about the “strong alliance” between the U.S. and Pakistan if it is common knowledge, revealed by high-level U.S. intelligence officials, that the Pakistani government, or at least very important parts of it, is working for the enemy.

    The U.S. president will then have a choice of looking foolish, or giving the Pakistani prime minister an ultimatum to rein in the ISI. Future leaks from the “hawks” at Langley and the Pentagon would presumably confirm whether reform of the ISI had in fact occurred. Sweeping up high-level al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan would be additional evidence of a change.

    Assuming none of this occurs, the U.S. would be compelled to change its relationship with Pakistan. A president couldn’t risk the embarrassment of telling the public that Pakistan is a cooperative ally when top U.S. intelligence and defense officials are saying just the opposite.

    The hawkish rebels at Langley and the Pentagon have lighted a match and are holding it over the gasoline-soaked bridge to Pakistan. It is now up to the ISI to determine whether the bridge burns.


    westhawk, of course.

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  47. news flash...

    Olmert is going going gone....

    War in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria & iran to follow..

    I predict...

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  48. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert held a special press conference on Wednesday at 8 p.m. where he announced he will not run in the Kadima primary scheduled to take place in September, adding that he would resign from office upon selection of a successor, and would allow his successor to attempt to form a coalition.

    Now if we can get Senator Stevens of Alaska to feel the same level of shame.

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  49. This race is about race. More people will vote for Obama because he is black than will oppose him for being so.

    It's about black faces in high places. People are thinking about 30 years from now, when little Johnny goes, "Grandpa, did you help make history and vote to put the first African-American in the White House?" "No, Johnny, I voted for the other guy because he looked like me."

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  50. I seriously doubt many whites will vote for Obama simply because he is black, I just don't see the psychological dynamic that would propel it (white guilt? naw). I'm pretty sure there are quite a few whites who will not vote for Obama because he's black though.

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  51. Ash, you ever been to Iowa? Not exactly soul city.

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  52. I did pass through Iowa once but that doesn't really count as being there. Pretty white and loads of corn is my impression. Anyway, voting for him BECAUSE he is black...I don't think so. I found the stats through the primaries indicating whites supporting obama pretty high in places where whites didn't mix it up with blacks pretty telling.

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  53. To iknow them is not to love them?..some truth to that I suppose.

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  54. "I found the stats through the primaries indicating whites supporting obama pretty high in places where whites didn't mix it up with blacks pretty telling."
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    EXACTLY!
    They "Atone" for their alienation by "voting with a good heart."
    ---
    Those of us more familiar with the folks and the "revolutionaries" of the 60's have no such emotional needs.

    Then again, the entire left leadership from the 60's were more familiar than Iowans too, and they just feel more compelled to vote for Barry, like you would.

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  55. I think what I was getting at Doug was a statistical note of the racial problems in the US. A riff on "familiarity breeds contempt". Those Iowans who support Obama have little experience with blacks. They don't feel guilty for being alienated from them but rather have no reason to feel contempt for them.

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  56. Russia just defeated the US in the race for Central Asian gas.
    The US bet on a gas pipeline through Taliban territory in Afghanistan and Pakistan to India while trying to sideline Russia and Iran!
    Putin is rivalling the emir of Kuwait as a fossil fuel master of the universe. The only question is when some big power will get hungry enough for natural gas to defy AIPAC's congressional boycott on developing Iran's oil and gas fields. It is likely that future historians will date the end of America's superpower status from that date.
    - Jaun Cole

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  57. Wed Jul 30, 04:26:00 PM EDT

    Sometimes it's one or the other, I think, Ash.

    Saw your comment @BC re:
    Civilizing Afghanistan.

    Old Blues statement that education plus one or two generations flys in the face of history going back before Alexander.
    Why do so many think we have magical powers?

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  58. "education plus one or two generations"

    will do the trick of transforming them.

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  59. Fred has now articulated my point.

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  60. While Sen. John McCain's campaign continues to inspire very little enthusiasm among either conservatives or independent voters, it may be the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama that is desperately in need of a shot in the arm. His world tour wasn't enough to lift him over 50% in national polls, and the Electoral College still looks like a dead heat. Obama should be leading at this point, and he's only barely ahead.


    While close observers see reasons for McCain confidence, there is no reason for a broader GOP confidence. McCain has nearly even chances of winning, but on nearly every other score, election 2008 will be disastrous for Republicans.


    Robert Novak

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  61. If you don't accept 'liberal/neocon' agenda of 'helping' them then you are left with very powerful arguments for withdrawal.

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  62. Reparations will be next.

    They'll try, Obama and a new democratic Congress.

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  63. Obama's Global Tax

    Election '08: A plan by Barack Obama to redistribute American wealth on a global level is moving forward in the Senate. It follows Marxist theology — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

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  64. African-American issues or reparations

    "I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.

    "I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."

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    Comments

    "Obama notes 'tragic' US past"
    Yes and if he gets elected we can have a tragic future too!"


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    every time mr o opens his mouth he gives the repubs more ammo!! keep it up mr o!! i'd like mr o to address his comments on why he did not visit the troops in germany truthfully and also explain that as a senator he chairs a veteran's service committee and in the 3 1/2 years he's been in the senate he never met with the committee once!!! sounds like his talk does not match his walk which the public is fast catching onto!!!!!!!!
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    OUR PEOPLE

    Once again Obama Swift Boats himself. Lecturing America (White people) on it's "tragic past" instead of doing a Reagan and concentrating on a better future.

    He also talked about "our" people (anything but white) not getting into college. I remember Ross Perot being hammered by the fake media for weeks because he talked about "you people" when referring to blacks. Endless cries of racism and bigotry. But Obama says "our people" and there is silence.

    This coming after his flagless visit to a foreign country where he told non-Americans that this is "our time".

    I appreciate his honesty but what the hell is he running for? Leader of the united Nations or the United States?
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    Had the American haoles not stolen Hawaii in the 19th century and used it to their advantage in the 20th century, do you really think the world would have "left us alone?" I imagine around December 1941 the attack would still have happened, only the attackers would have stayed. Just like on so many other Pacific islands, many would have been slaughtered or enslaved. The Americans would have had to take Hawaii before they could work their way across the Pacific, and there would have been that many more casualties.
    ----

    Native Hawai'ians behave like time should have stood still when it came to our little piece of paradise. Well, if America hadn't stolen us, some other empire would have. Of one thing I am sure; We will never get paid for it!

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  65. Every group in the country will want to be paid off. What about the kin of the union soldiers? Surely they ought to be paid something.
    ----
    Ash, you're right about the ad--should have had more Paris, more Brittney, no Obama.

    And I think deuce is right, if Obama loses, at least if it's close, there will be rioting in the streets.

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  66. re: rioting in the streets. There certainly is a segment of the population (and it seems to be growing) that suspects the elections are rigged, the ballot boxes are tampered with. If that meme continues to grow, and especially if the black community adopts it, yep, riots could happen if Obama loses by a narrow margin.

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  67. What about a move to do away with the Electoral College? That idea gets floated around when the results turn out badly for the left.

    No energy policy.
    Taxes to fight global poverty.
    Taxes on the 'rich'.
    Gut the military.
    Health care.
    Reparations.
    Gay marriage.
    Restrictions on free speech.
    Open borders.
    What am I leaving out?

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  68. what are you leaving out?


    The good things your man is for!

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  69. CNN Poll: Obama Up 7
    Posted by TOM BEVAN
    New CNN poll (July 27-29, 941 RV, MoE +/- 3.0%) shows Obama leading McCain by 7 points, which is only a slight improvement from last month's survey:

    Obama 51 (+1 vs. last poll June 26-29)
    McCain 44 (-1)


    An Obama breakout,
    first time over 50


    Obama's lead in the RCP National Avg ticked back up to 3.0%

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  70. If Olmert hangs on until September, as a lame duck, it's doubtful he'll order the invasion of Lebanon without a major provocation.

    Another Summer of Love will have slipped away, without a war.

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  71. Barring unforeseen events, either McCain or Obama will be the next president. That's a fact.

    Why chide the EB for not covering McCain when it is obvious that McCain was not our first choice in the primaries but is now?

    What useful purpose does it serve to constantly link McCain with gangsterism and the hegemonic Russell and Company? The regulars here at the EB are well aware of the shortcomings of both candidates.

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  72. Hadn't seen a gangsteism tag since Michelle fell off the approved target list.

    That is a first wives club venue,
    tats for tits.

    As to Russell Company, that ties the elites together in a bipartisan package, from FDR and JFKerry to the Bush dynasty. It is a vital part of understanding US trade policy, especially as it relates to China and Southwest Asia.

    Someone, using trish's sign-in mentioned going to work for Russell Company, upon retirement.

    Make no mistake, Russell Company and its ideological descendents are integral to US trade and defense policies, today and in the future.

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  73. Since the Olympic Village press center opened Friday, reporters have been unable to access scores of Web pages - politically sensitive ones that discuss Tibetan succession, Taiwanese independence, the violent crackdown of the protests in Tiananmen Square and the sites of Amnesty International, Radio Free Asia and several Hong Kong newspapers known for their freewheeling political discourse.
    -------------
    So even as other leaders demur,
    Dhimmi In Chief Wuss sucks ass again.

    His legacy imo.
    From Clintons resuscitation, to giving the country to illegals to the Border guys losing their lives to W's male lover back in Texas.
    (least covered:
    The court ruled against them two days ago!)

    Screwed up an Iraq plan that might well have worked.
    A-hole extraordinare.

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  74. "Someone, using trish's sign-in mentioned going to work for Russell Company, upon retirement."
    ---
    Is your claim that Trish has no sense of humor, or as in Trade Center 7, do you really believe that?

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  75. If only Jesse Ventura were running for President.

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  77. Is it humorous to work to achieve US goals through private means?

    Or shall we say American goals through private means.

    Or are those goals really not funny?

    Is it humorous to pillage and despoil China for the good of the Americas?

    trish is forthright in support of the Declaration's storyline.

    All men are created equal
    endowed with inalienable rights.

    Not much humor, there.

    As to Trade Center 7, sure looks like a classic implosion demolition, to me.
    Certainly not a blazing inferno, from stem to sternum.

    Which is not the same as stating that Darth Cheney and his neo-con minions used mercenaries to do the deed, to provoke a war.

    That the Federals covered up the terrorists ability to strike the building in that manner, that is a scenario I'd believe.

    Even bet a couple of Ameros on it.

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  78. The situation in Pakistan has to get a whole lot worse before it can get better. Too many Pakis feel that the war on terror is Bush's war. Suffering from rampant BDS and chronic anti-Americanism, they are unwilling to confront the danger of fundamentalism. Who can blame them?

    It's unrealistic to expect that the ISI turn on the very people whom they supported against the Godless Soviets not so long ago. The government is very weak and it will do no good to bend them to our will.

    Not being in any position to press the fight, we have no choice but to continue with the Pakis as we have been. We'll stay in Islamabad (bribing and jawboning) until things get out of hand.

    It's half-assed, but there it is. That's the way it's going to be.

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  79. As long as we're committed to rebuilding Afghanistan, our first order of duty next door will be to not stir up any hornet nests.

    If we ever decide that the humanitarian effort is futile, it will be a different ballgame.

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  80. YOU JUST MIGHT BE A TALIBAN IF...

    1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer.

    2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes.

    3. You have more wives than teeth.

    4. You wipe your butt with your bare left hand, but consider bacon 'unclean.'

    5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.

    6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against.

    7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.

    8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.

    9. You've ever uttered the phrase, 'I love what you've done with your cave.'

    10. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least one.

    11. You bathe at least monthly whether necessary or not.

    12. You've ever had a crush on your neighbor's goat.

    ht: Tiger at the Observer

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  81. California To Sue Bottling Plant

    Plastic bottles are bad. They come from petroleum, and don't degrade, says AG Jerry Drown. Industrialism to die the death of a thousand cuts.

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  82. The challenge to that, whit, is that Afghanistan cannot be built, not with the hornets nest next door.

    The nest must be removed, or the construction teams cannot work on the site.

    To continue on the same course, but with an even bigger footprint, not the best idea.

    Was the attack of 9-11-01 really worth a war?
    If it was, we;d best get on with it. It originated with the ISI's support.

    War or Peace, we have neither, now

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  83. "I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.

    "I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."

    **********************************

    This is absolutely atrocious. That the US has managed to fully assimilate not merely generations of immigrants, but those once enslaved and oppressed by its own design, is a motherfucking miracle to the ga-ga Europeans - a mystery of the highest order which they are too senile to unravel.

    Obama comes home from his love-in with the slobbering idgits on the other side of the pond - his quick shag with "that old bitch," Europe, "gone in the mouth" - and wants "acknowledgment" from a country that is second to none either in bloody atonement or bright promise.

    Fuckin-A.

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  84. Priscilla Lord Faris, who entered the Senate race as a Democrat in the 11th hour of the last day to register as a candidate, is not in the line up.

    She has been chomping at the bit to debate Franken, but according to Farmfest forum coordinator Kent Thiesse a cutoff had to be made.

    "We'd like to have all dozen or so candidates up there debating," he said, "but logistically it is just impossible.


    Coleman/Franken Face Off

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  85. What did Europe do in his mouth?

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  86. Well said, Trish.

    Obama the post racial candidate, stirring up the racial pot.

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  87. Europe:

    "...an old bitch gone in the teeth,
    ...a botched civilization"

    - Ezra Pound

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  88. Republican Sen. John McCain, engaged in increasingly sharp attacks on rival Barack Obama, pledged that if elected president, he would work closely with Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, praising her as an effective leader and an "inspiration to millions of Americans."

    "I respect Speaker Pelosi. I think she's one of the great American success stories,"
    McCain said during an interview with The Chronicle prior to a fundraiser at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco.

    "We talk about (New York Sen.) Hillary Clinton and her inspiration to millions of Americans. Speaker Pelosi has been an inspiration as well" in a role that is "in many ways ... more powerful than the president."

    And McCain also had high praise for the 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore and his advocacy on the issue of climate change. McCain recently raised eyebrows in GOP circles by calling "doable" Gore's suggestion that the country could become entirely energy independent through use of renewable resources within 10 years.

    "I agree with his goal,"
    the Arizona senator said Monday of Gore's idea.
    "I may disagree with all the ways of getting there. But I again want to emphasize my respect for the former vice president's leadership on this issue and his continuous leadership. And I am in no way trying to get into a fight with him."


    Agreement on goals
    McCain said that while he differs with Gore on the importance of nuclear power, "I do believe that his goals and his priorities and the visibility that he's given the issue has been good for America and the world."

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  89. “Women have always made the difference in every election, and this year, your voice, your hope will be the deciding factors in forging a new future for America.”

    BO

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  90. He's gotta say that shit to turn on the dems.

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  91. We may not especially like McCain but the prospect of an Obama Presidency merits a holding action. That's all McCain represents to many conservatives.

    We could be reaching a tipping point and I don't mean 350 ppm CO2. It looks to me there is a huge move afoot to discredit America and capitalism. The world smells our money like blood in the water and Obama plays right into that movement. It's all about a massive redistribution of money and resources. Obama represents the hope of the long oppressed proletariat getting back what was lost with the fall of communism.

    The left have been given over to their devils and see only the evil of America while ignoring the true despots like Saddam and bin Laden. If Obama is elected it could signal a new era for the world. An era in which the dinosaurs of the EB could become as despised and reviled as much as fossil fuels. It may be that we will be better served to tune out and drop out. To quietly hunker down and watch the madness play out.

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  92. Lincoln never did
    Teddy Roosevelt never did
    Reagan never did

    But Maverick must.

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  93. If McCain would hammer Obama like I will be for the next 98 days, he will beat the son of a bitch. After that, who knows.

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  94. Funny thing
    In AZ McCain is up by 10 pts
    In MS he is up by 11, same as TX.

    RCP has AZ solid for Mav, but MS & TX only leaning.

    If Obama choses Ms Napalitano, AZ's Governor, AZ'd be a toss up.

    Two carpetbaggers goin' at it.

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  95. Karadzic was removed from power in 1995, when the Dayton Accords that ended the Bosnian war barred anyone accused of war crimes from holding office. Though he portrayed Serbs as victims, Karadzic is accused of responsibility for the massacre at Srebrenica, a U.N. "safe area" Serb troops overran in July 1995.

    Nearly 8,000 Bosnian Muslim men and boys were killed at Srebrenica, the worst European massacre since World War II.

    Milosevic died in March 2006 while on trial at The Hague. The highest-ranking figure to remain at large is Gen. Ratko Mladic, the Bosnian Serb military commander during the Bosnian war.


    Set to Make Court Appearance

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  96. With any luck, Obama will defeat himself. No sooner than he had left the disappointed Germans asking "is that all there is?" he comes out with the statement that NATO should do more in Afghanistan so that the US can do less and use that money for domestic social purposes. That went over like a lead balloon with some Germans.

    Obama is the gift that keeps on giving. Keep talking, Barry.

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  97. We'll stay in Islamabad (bribing and jawboning) until things get out of hand.

    - whit

    We're not just in Islamabad.

    Now put yourself in *those* guys' shoes for a moment.

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  98. Olmert, 62, gained governing experience in a decade as mayor of Jerusalem, balancing Jewish and Palestinian interests and wrestling with constant budget shortfalls by raising money abroad.

    Bitterly summing up during his 10-minute address Wednesday, Olmert said, "Did I make mistakes over my political career? Without a doubt, yes, and I regret them and I am sorry.

    But is the real picture that which is presented to the public? Absolutely not."


    Not Seeking Reelection

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  99. And, alternatively, in the shoes of the PakGov.

    That's a complicated situation if ever there was.

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  100. 'tween a rock and a hard place

    Pakistan military is tight-lipped about the incident. Local officials say at least 12 people died in the attack, believed to have been carried out by a U.S. aerial drone.
    By Zulfiqar Ali, Laura King and Josh Meyer, Special to The Times

    July 29, 2008

    PESHAWAR, PAKISTAN -- A Pakistani security official said an apparent U.S. missile strike early Monday may have killed a senior Al Qaeda trainer believed to be a chemical weapons expert.

    Local officials in the tribal region of South Waziristan said that at least 12 people died in the attack, believed to have been carried out by an unmanned aerial drone. Foreign militants were among the dead, and one of them was thought to be Abu Khabab Masri, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

    The Pakistani military, as is its custom, denied knowledge of the missile strike and whether it had been carried out by the United States. American attacks inside Pakistan are highly sensitive politically.

    One U.S. official familiar with the incident said the Pentagon was not involved and that "it was an agency-run op all the way," a reference to the CIA. The agency had no comment.

    A U.S. counter-terrorism official in Washington said that Masri, whose given name is Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, was believed dead. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity.

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  101. Abu Khabab

    Now known affectionately as "Shish."

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  102. Two U.S. officials said that a senior al-Qaida explosives expert, Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, was believed to be among those killed when missiles fired by an unmanned U.S. aircraft hit a religious school in Azem Warsak, a village in Pakistan’s South Waziristan tribal agency.

    The U.S. officials requested anonymity because the operation was classified.

    Six people were killed in the operation, according to state-run Pakistan television.

    Before he clashed with Bush, Gilani lost a major confrontation with his own military over the weekend. U.S. analysts said the Pakistani leader is nearly powerless to do anything, partly because the coalition he heads remains in disarray, divided over the future of President Pervez Musharraf, the former army chief who seized power in a 1998 coup, and the reinstatement of scores of judges whom Musharraf ousted last year.

    Moreover, the Pakistani military has made it clear that it won’t bow to the authority of Gilani’s coalition, which was formed after parliamentary polls in February.

    The White House, the Pentagon and the CIA refused to comment on the attack, the latest in a series of U.S. missile and airstrikes on purported terrorist sites in the tribal area that also have killed civilians and Pakistani security personnel.

    Mursi, an Egyptian with a $5 million U.S. bounty on his head, trained al-Qaida and Taliban fighters in bomb-making.

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  103. Cannoneer #4 just linked to this interesting blog

    http://www.pakspectator.com/pakistan-army-we-stand-with-you/

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  104. An administration official said the decision to send CIA Deputy Director Steve R. Kappes to the meetings in Islamabad with Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, came amid mounting evidence initially collected by the U.S. but then corroborated by Indian intelligence that some members of the Pakistani intelligence community were actively aiding the Taliban and al-Qaida.

    The official said the information indicated that specific midlevel officers in Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency likely were leaking sensitive intelligence about operations in the tribal areas to militants that was "not only increasing their offensive capability, but also their defensive capability,'' resulting in a rise in the number and lethalness of attacks.

    The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, said long-standing CIA frustration with the Pakistanis had been growing for months, especially since opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was assassinated last year, and hit a high after the July 7 suicide bombing at the Indian Embassy in Kabul, which New Delhi has blamed on Islamabad.


    Ties to Militants

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  105. How did Barack Obama achieve superslipperiness without becoming greasy?..... Like Chief Justice John Roberts, Obama has constructed a professional résumé low on embarrassing material. In this regard, Obama's lack of legislative accomplishment is a genuine achievement. They can't hit you where they can't find you, which is a gambit that worked for Roberts in his confirmation hearings.

    Obama The Untouchable

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  106. What do you think about Obama's promotion of 'reparations' to blacks and Native Americans? (174 votes)

    This talk of reparations only feeds the victimization that has hurt so many minorities and enriched so many race hustlers like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton 23% (40)



    Any candidate pushing reparations for something that happened over a century ago and who thinks the answer to the energy crisis is inflating you tires is out of touch 21% (36)



    If Obama is really backing reparations, he'll lose in a landslide 13% (22)



    All the slaves and all the slaveholders have been dead for decades -- get over it! 12% (21)



    If he really supports reparations, when is he going to open his checkbook? 9% (16)



    His remarks were so foolish, he's going to have to back pedal and explain what he 'really meant' -- that's going to hurt him with minority voters 7% (13)



    Every American has ancestors who were victims of past oppression 7% (12)



    If this Pandora's box is ever opened, everyone will be lining up to get paid for a grievance 4% (7)



    Absurd! This is a nation of individual rights, not group rights 2% (4)



    Other 1% (2)



    Great idea! Where do I sign up for my check for this hangnail? 1% (1)



    It may be the right thing to do but it's political suicide for any candidate who proposes it 0% (0)



    It's about time an American leader had the courage to address injustices of past racial victimization 0% (0)



    It's the right thing to do and long overdue 0% (0)



    This is another great reason to support Obama for president 0% (0)



    This will open the door for a massive, well-organized campaign by homosexuals

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  107. When affirmative action first got going, it was billed as a kind of reparations. And the Supreme Court has now said it's ok, as far out into the future as you might care to look. Can't remember the name of the case, though.

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  108. Phil Gramm, McCain’s former economics advisor:

    “We have sort of become a nation of whiners,...You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline…” (And banks failing, foreclosures and gas prices rising?)

    Columnist David Broder piles on:

    “...four years in the U.S. Senate, during which he has yet to lead on any major domestic or foreign policy issue, preceded by largely anonymous service in the Illinois state senate. There have been few occasions when Obama’s professed beliefs could be tested against his action.”

    John McCain, on Saturday Night Live:

    “I have the courage, the wisdom, the experience and, most importantly, the oldness necessary...The oldness it takes to protect America, to honor her, love her and tell her about what cute things the cat did.”

    Quotation Time

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  109. "If McCain would hammer Obama like I will be for the next 98 days, he will beat the son of a bitch."

    How did we ever end up here?

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  110. Good Day!!! 2164th.blogspot.com is one of the most excellent resourceful websites of its kind. I take advantage of reading it every day. I will be back.

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  111. 2020.06.08曾經酒店小姐的基本介紹跟工作內容雞排妹的《深夜保健室》最新一集與培根到酒店訪問我在酒店上班的日子的酒店小姐跟不敢來酒店上班-酒店打工的原因,影片中介紹如:顏射(精子射在臉上) 、口交口爆(精子射在嘴裡) 、戴套肛交進行交易專業精緻化,酒店消費服務方式,還有小姐帶出場接S(性交易)等大家好奇的問題,其中酒店上班-酒店兼職-兼差如何達成人生的第一桶金小姐的薪水也是一般人想知道的問題,酒店兼差不是一個複雜的工作環境?透露,最菜最基本的酒店妹,一個月至少也可以賺10到20萬元,也曾有「職場須知 【酒店PT 】魔王級人物」一周就能賺40萬元,相當於月薪200萬,雞排妹問到酒店妹外貌與薪水成正比?酒店經紀表示並不是,通常看小姐自己的手腕,包括: 顏射(精子射在臉上) 、口交口爆(精子射在嘴裡) 、戴套肛交進行交易。突破高薪資的境界。至於常傳聞演藝圈知名網紅跨國賣淫,會轉行到酒店兼職,酒店經紀透露曾遇過10名通告女星「拍過廣告、拍過電影」找上門希望願意配合國外伴遊接受消費者陪睡性交易:顏射(精子射在臉上) 、口交口爆(精子射在嘴裡) 、戴套肛交進行交易,不過他表示雖然她為公眾人物,但在這行沒有差別待遇,起薪與一般小姐無異,不過影片中沒透露該女星身分,讓網友相當好奇。

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