COLLECTIVE MADNESS
“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."
THE MONOMYTH
ReplyDeleteWe should understand what is going on here.
"The standard path of the mythologial adventure of the hero is a magnification of the formula represented in the rites of passage: separation--initiation--return: which might be named the nuclear unit of the monomyth."
A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder; fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won; the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow men.
Prometheus ascended to the heavens, stole fire from the gods, and descended. Jason sailed through the clashing rocks....etc
J. Campbell "The Hero With A Thousand Faces"
We are being taken for a mythological ride.
Jason Disgorged By The Dragon
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ReplyDeleteI know that Barack Obama is a near-perfect political package. I'm still not sure, though, what's in it.
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HOW ISRAEL'S RACE COULD SHIFT OURS
ReplyDeleteBy DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN
Published in The New York Post on July 28, 2008.
The most important primary for our 2008 election may be yet to come - the Kadima Party primary in Israel in mid or late September. It pits liberal-leaning Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni against hardliner and former Army Chief of Staff Shaul Mofaz. (Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is expected to sit out the contest and concentrate on staying out of jail.) The polls are neck and neck; in the most recent, Livni's once-formidable lead has shrunk to 2 points. Hanging over the battle is the Iranian nuclear program.
Livni is thought unlikely to attack Iran precipitously; she largely sees eye-to-eye with advocates of diplomatic solutions to the various problems her country faces. But Mofaz has openly said he'd resort to bombing Iran if it were necessary to stop the mullahs from getting the bomb.
So if Mofaz wins, military action becomes much more likely. But when?
By most accounts, the Israeli Defense Force would need considerable American cooperation to pull off such a strike. No top-level Israeli politician has much confidence that Barack Obama would be forthcoming. But most are confident that President Bush or John McCain would give Israel the help that it needs.
How will Obama answer?
So if Obama wins here, a Mofaz government would feel great pressure to attack before Bush leaves office. If McCain wins, Israel would have more time.
But Mofaz might not want to wait for our election. Why risk antagonizing a President-elect Obama by taking military action that he might vigorously oppose? If Obama, having won, were to counsel patience, what Israeli prime minister could ignore him?
Before the US election, on the other hand, Obama might be reluctant to take a position - and the Israelis need feel no compulsion to conform to any advice from a man who isn't yet be president-elect.
Surely, an Israeli attack on Iran would bring a sharp and instant response from Iran and from its satellites, Syria, Hamas and Hezbollah, as well as its pawns in Iraq. It would presage war in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank along with an air war of Israeli missiles and bombers against Iranian missile.
Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf states would criticize Israel in public but probably breathe a sign of relief in private that Iran's nuclear ambitions were thwarted or at least postponed.
The ensuing crisis would probably militate in McCain's favor if it erupted before the US election. The more a foreign crisis intrudes on our politics, the more voters are apt to trust a seasoned hand like him and not to give an ingénue like Obama his shot.
Polls show that voters trust McCain much more than Obama to handle a foreign crisis. An unavoidable national-security threat would give McCain a huge boost. Just as in 2004, if the issue is terrorism or foreign crises, the Republican will prevail. If the issues are domestic policy, the Democrat will win.
Of course, Mofaz would need other parties to form a governing coalition. The dovish Labor Party might not lend itself to any aggressive purpose - but a Mofaz determined to bring down Iran's nuclear program might reach across to Likud and bring in hard-line ex-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to make a war politically possible.
"He had plenty of help."
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Imperialism
Cronyism
Careerism
Greed
Arrogance
Yes, Trish, he had help. But like you, he knew exactly what he was doing, and why and who he was doing it for.
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Bush was an alcoholic, so perhaps he had a tad of conscience. That's where he had my respect. Jesus didn't help him, quite the opposite.
Salvation comes from within.
Beware Being Snookered By Obama
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In A Blow To One Worlders Everywhere, North American Union Pronounced Dead
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ReplyDeleteLadies and Gentlemen, he's going to try to tax us to prosperity, an impossibility.
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On dividends the story is about as bad, with rates rising from 50.4% to 65.6%, and after-tax returns falling over 30%. Even a small response of work and investment to these lower returns means such tax rates, sooner or later, would seriously damage the economy.
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"But like you, he knew exactly what he was doing, and why and who he was doing it for."
ReplyDeleteWho would that be, mat?
Statism
ReplyDeleteImperialism
Cronyism
Careerism
Greed
Arrogance
- mat
It should go without saying, mat, that concepts fundamentally contradictory to each of these, hold no genuine appeal for you.
Oh Lordy, praise Jesus, she thinks she's cured.
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ReplyDeleteWhy Obama's attitude on the surge hasn't harmed his campaign.
By Christopher Hitchens
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In fact, the worst you can say of Obama's position on Iraq (where we also didn't declare war but where we did have a long series of U.N. resolutions putting the Saddam Hussein regime outside international law) is that he was a member of that quite large and undistinguished group that constituted the president's fair-weather wartime friends. Shortly after Baghdad had fallen at a then-cost of perhaps 100 U.S. fatalities, he said publicly that there was no serious difference between the Bush position and his own. It was only by retro-engineering his politics, and pointing to a speech he had made in Chicago very much earlier in the Iraq debate, that he was able to create the idea that he had been both braver and more prescient than his rivals for the nomination.
According to your taste, then, this succession of local and national and now international shifts and adaptations makes Obama either a very ordinary politician or a highly extraordinary one. The timing of events in Iraq and Afghanistan seems to make him an astonishingly fortunate nominee. And fortunate, too, it must be said, in his opponent. Sen. John McCain could have said gravely that only the surge made the talk of American withdrawal—whether it came from Nouri al-Maliki or Obama—possible in the first place. He could have taken Obama's words from last February, about the 1st Cavalry vanquishing al-Qaida, and used them wryly and dryly to congratulate the younger man on being willing to learn. Instead, he peppered everything but the target with the inaccurate charge that Obama had always been anti-war and anti-surge. Obama may indeed have been serially for them after he was against them, but that's different from (and better than) the other way around.
The cliché for the Obama phenomenon is jujitsu, where the strength of your opponent is precisely what you use against him. McCain had one particular strength when this campaign began: his fortitude in respect of Iraq, which entailed (as some people forget) his willingness to criticize the commander in chief in time of war. Now he is in real danger of confusing the two things and trying to make criticism or disagreement appear to be suspect in themselves. If last week hasn't taught him that this is a doomed tactic—and strategy—then he is unteachable.
Maverick is experienced, he knows what he knows and sticks to it, right or wrong.
The Election is now a two digit midget. 98 days and counting.
There may well be some lingering racism in America, of all sorts, but, I'm not buying into this sexism business.
ReplyDeleteAnd, let's not forget, the women own more of the country, than the men.
36% of Voters Say Racism Bigger Problem in U.S. than Sexism
CBS News' beleaguered anchor Katie Couric says sexism is more common and more acceptable in society than racism, but voters do not agree. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 36% believe African-Americans face more discrimination, while only 28% say it's worse for women.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
ReplyDeleteThe Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that Barack Obama's Berlin bounce is gone. Obama now attracts 44% of the vote while John McCain earns 42%. When "leaners" are included, it's Obama 47% and McCain 46%. Compared to a week ago, Obama has gained a single percentage point.
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Obama doesn't seem able to move those numbers up. One article I read yesterday was comparing numbers in earlier Presidential races, and showed that the movement was towards the pubs, as the election got closer. McCain may have a chance.
Virginia Governor Kaine may be Obama's VP pick, articles say. Virginia being a toss up state this year.
ReplyDeleteState by State, bob.
ReplyDeleteDistribution of support is what really matters, or Al Gore would have won the White House.
It is still all about Obama, wait until the fccus shifts to Maverick, and the side by side comparisons, that's when the decision will be made, by the so far undicided.
Maverick performed unevenly in the GOP debates, Obama is recently experienced with the one on one format.
Then factor in the turnout model.
ReplyDeletewi"o" predicts Obamaoids that are young or gay will stay home on election day.
Gov Rendall of PA discounts that prediction and says that those that voted in the primary will be active in November, In PA, that's over 100,000 new Dem voters.
We'll see whose turnout model proves more accurate.
This makes me sick:
ReplyDelete"Influential former Pentagon official Richard Perle has been exploring going into the oil business in Iraq and Kazakhstan, according to people with knowledge of the matter and documents outlining possible deals.
Mr. Perle, one of a group of security experts who began pushing the case for toppling Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein about a decade ago, has been discussing a possible deal with officials of northern Iraq's Kurdistan regional government, including its Washington envoy, according to these people and the documents."
McCain may have a chance.
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Yes, indeed, bob.
Yes, indeed.
Tis the year of evaporated certainties, vanished inevitabilities, disappointed conventional wisdom. Appealing to the hearts of contrarians.
I'm looking forward to autumn.
Welcome to the cynical politics of the current administration!
ReplyDeleteFor every Obamanoid Daily Kos Kossack, you get ten potential Obama voters completely turned off the prospect of voting Obama. That's the real turnout model.
ReplyDelete"Welcome to the cynical politics of the current administration!"
ReplyDeleteLOL! Thank you, Ashley, for that comic relief.
I can see it now, the count is in across the country, but for St Louis, where a Judge had ordered the polls be kept open.
ReplyDeleteDue to record turnout and the long lines at the polling places.
The outcome of the election rests, not in FL, but on MO and there we'll be waiting on St Louis.
Oh, the tension and outrage that will erupt, regardless of the outcome
desert rat said...
ReplyDeleteThen factor in the turnout model.
dRAT:
wi"o" predicts Obamaoids that are young or gay will stay home on election day.
Gov Rendall of PA discounts that prediction and says that those that voted in the primary will be active in November, In PA, that's over 100,000 new Dem voters.
We'll see whose turnout model proves more accurate.
It will be interesting...
Move On just launched a new commerical aimed at young people to remind them that the messiah gives them hope...
lol
The funny thing about the way I sees it?
THE MORE the press scream BO is the messiah, the sure I am BO is losing steam...
100 days
dog days of summer...
Hezboolah/iran/syria took over another mountain peak
3rd world is under new pressures due to food and fuel costs rising
china is having a recession/depression that noone is reporting
somolia is have epic food shortages with million starving, aid workers being killed and kidapped
iran threatening still
terrorists bombings in india
drone attacks in pakistan
palios going bankrupt
hamas killing fatah
sammy the cunt in lebanon praising the killing of sadat
fires still burning DAILY in france
germany's leaders laughing at the messiah's request for more troops in for nato in place of us in the land of KUSH
my o my...
the messiah's trip overseas did not part the water...
billery supports are not impressed with the empty suit
all McCain has to do is do nothing wrong and he will have 48% of the voters...
What I saw, on the Berlin stop, was US flags waving in the streets of Germany. Not swastikas nor H&S banners, nope, the good old Stars and Stripes blowing in the wind while a US politico spoke to a couple of hundred thousand Germans and the rest of world via video.
ReplyDeleteThe speech itself was rather bland, but for the call to tear down walls. Seemingly a telling theme, after visiting Jerusalem.
An undivided Jerusalem, that is the capital of both Israel and Palistine.
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Policed by the Unied Nations
Jerusalem, International City of Peace.
"..a telling theme.."
ReplyDeleteYes, indeed.
Flags. Passports. Walls. Borders. Language. Culture. History. Future.
"A military and weapons free zone
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Good. Start with the headquarters in the USA. And then expand to the other Security Council members.
From FOX News
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Pickens told the National Journal that, "I think I would be for Al Gore for energy czar [in an Obama administration]."
Pickens said that he and Gore agree on about 95 percent of their respective energy plans.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi invited Pickens to speak before the Democratic Caucus.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says that, while Pickens was once a "mortal enemy," they are now friends because of the oilman's conversion to alternative energy.
Then there's Carl Pope, the head of the Sierra Club, who not only flies in Pickens' private jet but writes paeans about him on the liberal Huffington Post blog.
"T. Boone Pickens is out to save America," Pope wrote on July 3.
It would have been more accurate, perhaps, for Pope to write that "Pickens is out to make billions of dollars for himself and to save the Sierra Club's anti-coal, anti-oil, anti-natural gas agenda."
Lastly, the New York Times rhapsodized about Pickens in an editorial this week.
Pickens' involvement in the alleged swiftboating of John Kerry seems to have been forgiven and forgotten by the paper. But the Times went absolutely over-the-top when it observed that the billionaire Pickens wasn't in it for the money because "he doesn't really need it."
Once the evangelicals realize that Obama is the antiChrist, they'll vote for him, to bring on the Rapture.
ReplyDeleteWhich where the Messiah theme leads
Jerusalem, International City of Peace
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The UN moving its' Headquarters there
rather than rebuild the relic in NYCity.
Mətušélaḥ said...
ReplyDelete"Welcome to the cynical politics of the current administration!"
LOL! Thank you, Ashley, for that comic relief.
Well Mats, if you chalk up Perle's entry into private life sucking up Iraq's black gold as just another instance of a general US political/private corpse melding then Bobal will moan about we folk being anti-american - america haters.
Re Obama vs. McCain. McCain is such an old doddering pol with base support luke-warm (to put it mildly) versus the Messiah worshiping Obimites at his base I just don't see, aside from some crazy unforeseen event, McCain mustering much of a challenge. Obama landslide it will be.
Part of a BOLD PLAN for Peace
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"They Report - You Decide"
ReplyDeleteWhat's there to decide? How often in a day Rupert Murdoch goes down on King Abdullah Al Saud?
"..we folk being anti-american - america haters.."
ReplyDeleteBut you is. You is a Jihadi transplant, and there's no going around that. You don't want America to be great. You want to see America in the dumpster. That's the difference between you and I. My criticism is harsh, yes. But that's because I know America can do better. And I want America to do better.
It was Napoleon who said: “Let China sleep, for when China wakes she will shake the world.” The turbo-charged Chinese dragon woke up in the go-go 1980s. Whisper it softly, but there will be no respite. This is not even the beginning of the end, although it may be the end of the beginning.
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Napoleon’s quote about China has launched a thousand articles – and an excellent book by James Kynge, the former Financial Times correspondent in China. It now ranks alongside other great clichéd (and possibly apocryphal) China quotes – such as Chou En-lai’s reply when asked about the impact of the French revolution, that it “was too soon to tell”, and the Confucian curse: “May you live in interesting times.”
These quotes are certainly clichés. But so what? They bear repetition because they say something important in a terse and memorable fashion.
The lure of the great cliché of China
By Gideon Rachman
mats, you live in a fantasy world.
ReplyDeleteRe Obama vs. McCain. McCain is such an old doddering pol with base support luke-warm (to put it mildly) versus the Messiah worshiping Obimites at his base I just don't see, aside from some crazy unforeseen event, McCain mustering much of a challenge. Obama landslide it will be.
ReplyDeleteSure and steady will win the day...
The obamanics are fools, blacks the youth vote...
lol
a Change we can believe in...
lol
excuse me while i hurl....
Obama base is worthless, just a bunch of professional victims seeking to get MORE from the government's tit....
If the messiah gets elected I shall be very surprised
I am sure the MSM will not be happy, but so what?
"mats, you live in a fantasy world."
ReplyDeleteRight. Your Imam is calling, Ash.
I'll tell you fellas this, there are no community parties for Maverick, like there were for Bush in '04.
ReplyDeleteNow maybe in other parts of the country the Republicans are firing on all eight, but here in Phoenix, on the perhiphery of vortex power, there are no grassroot Mavericks.
Those Mavericks, only eating the tops, the easy pickin's.
desert rat said...
ReplyDeleteAn undivided Jerusalem, that is the capital of both Israel and Palistine.
A military and weapons free zone
Policed by the Unied Nations
Jerusalem, International City of Peace.
Well you spelled "palestine" wrong.. But I can UNDERSTAND your confusion since there is NO P IN ARABIC.
The Israelis have offered many sections of the Jewish City of David to their historic enemies (the children of baal) but to GIVE OVER CONTROL of Jerusalem to the UN would be suicide...
After all look the record.. it sucks..
But you think the problem still is land...
The Arabs ALREADY CONTROL the Temple Mount, a fictional important place to islam that is never even MENTIONED in the qu'ran.
The problem will not be solved by making Jerusalem an INTERNATIONAL city, theproblem can only be solved by the nationalistic arabs and islamists accepting the RIGHTS of Jews to self determination.
The UN stood by (with limp dicks in their hands) time and time again in protecting Israel from the aggressive war-like peoples that surround Israel. lebanon is the latest and greatest failure on record...
So no, dont hold your breath for jerusalem to become UN controlled...
But the good news for all those perpetual islamic victims? Islam's fake holy sites in Jerusalem are open to them to worship, it's just not legal to throw rocks at the Jews below...
It's not about what I believe, wi"o". Whether it's about land, water, or the End of Time.
ReplyDeleteIt's usually about what other people believe, and say.
The UN that created Israel you often cite as part of Israel's justified right of existance.
If that view is accurate, then the same UN can modify the terms of that existance. Holding Jerusalem under International jurisdiction, not at all outlandish, since Israel is a creation of that International organization.
Move the General Assembly and the ICC to Jerusalem.
Where justice can be done.
..Did you, by chance, suppose
ReplyDeletethat I should hate life,
flee into deserts,
just because
not all my fancy dreams
had come to pass?
I sit here, shaping men and women
in my image,
a race destined, like I,
to suffer and to cry,
to savor joy, to laugh,
and disregard you
as I did.
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H/T: Bob
desert rat said...
ReplyDeleteThe UN that created Israel you often cite as part of Israel's justified right of existance.
If that view is accurate, then the same UN can modify the terms of that existance. Holding Jerusalem under International jurisdiction, not at all outlandish, since Israel is a creation of that International organization.
Move the General Assembly and the ICC to Jerusalem.
Where justice can be done.
Now that's funny...
This UN that "created" Israel did not do so out of the blue, but rather responded to the reality on the ground...
the facts on the GROUND show that Jerusalem IS an Israeli City..
The UN does not create new states in places that the reality on the ground does not support.
So the creation of Jerusalem as an international UN controlled city is just a pipe dream, just as when the UN was HIJACKED by the non-aligned movement and called zionism is racism decades ago..
the UN has passed more general assembly resolutions against israel than any other issues COMBINED and if the UN HAD the authority to do anything about Jerusalem it would have, but it can't..
dRat
ReplyDeleteMove the General Assembly and the ICC to Jerusalem.
Where justice can be done.
Oh by the way, Israel is NOT part of the ICC...
Since the ICC is made up by "areas" of the world voting into place people and ISRAEL is NOT ALLOWED TO JOIN any MEMBER AREAS it chooses not to be a part of the ICC..
read more and learn...
MYTH: The Court will be used to pursue politically motivated cases against Israel.
FACT: The ICC cannot prosecute any Israeli actions that took place before its entry into force on July 1, 2002. Future actions on Israeli or Palestinian territory will be covered only if the ICC treaty is ratified by Israel or by a broadly recognized Palestinian state. That probably would not happen until after an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, in which case the likelihood of Israeli military action against Palestinians will greatly diminish.
September 11, 1995
Why Israel Is Denied Security Council Seat
To the Editor:
In discussing Italy's plan to expand the United Nations Security Council (news article, Sept. 3), you note that 79 of the world body's 185 members have never served on the Council, "including Iceland, Israel and most Caribbean and smaller African nations."
This description neglects one important difference between Israel and the other countries mentioned. The latter, at least theoretically, are able to aspire to one of the 10 non-permanent seats on the Security Council, whereas Israel is denied even this hope.
To gain a nonpermanent seat requires membership in a regional group, for it is these groups that select the one or more countries that will represent them on the Security Council for the rotating terms.
Iceland, as a member of the West European and Others Group, could at least in theory be selected. The Caribbean nations, being members of the Latin American and Caribbean Group, and the African nations, as members of the African Group, have the same opportunity.
Israel has been rejected, for overt political reasons, by the Asian Group, its natural geographic home. And its efforts to gain temporary membership in the West European and Others Group have been unsuccessful to date.
A majority of United Nations member states have begun to rectify the pattern of unfair treatment of Israel, especially in annulling the infamous "Zionism is racism" resolution.
Solving Israel's situation as the only member nation denied any regional group membership would be another important step forward in normalizing Israel's status at the United Nations. DAVID A. HARRIS Executive Director American Jewish Committee New York, Sept. 5, 1995
wow... 13 YEARS ago and Israel is still denied equal rights at the UN..
So tell me, why should Israel listen to anything the UN has to say UNTIL the UN allows Israel to be FULL MEMBER?
Interesting post at MJT:
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Hi Michael:
In Re the Taliban, Bin Laden and the Wahabbiyah.
It is common wisdom, (because that is how it has been spun) that Taliban means The Students, after the madrassa students which supposedly formed the Taliban.
But one needs to dissect the Word Taliban as well as Islamic narrative and mythology.
As "Im" in Hebrew means "people of" as in Ashkenazim (people of Ashkenaz) or Sephadim (peoples of the scroll- Sephar = scroll or book)
"An" means people of or followers of and Taliban means people or followers of the Student.
And who is this Student, why none other than Ali ibn Abu Talib, the first Shi'a Imam, and according them the legitimate successor of Hubal Qassim aka the praised one or Muhammad.
The name Ali ibn Abu Talib is self referential and circular translated it means Exalted son of the father of the student, (Ali = exalted, ibn = son, abu = father, talib = student), it is actually a title, and an invention, bestwwed on this personage (if he existed at all) after his death.. Ali was, in Islamic narrative, the cousin of Muhammad, the husband of Muhammads daughter Fatima and his first STUDENT.
Wrapping your mind around that, then consider that the only real seperation between Wahabi and Shi'a is the theological rift, in all of Islam the two versions of Shari'a (Islamic Law) that are most similar (and harsh) are those of Saudi Arabia (Wahabbi) and Iran now Iraq (Shi'a).
I postulate that Bin Laden was sent to Afghanistan, to use Wahabbi oil money, on a mission to create a syncretic union between Wahabbi and Shi'a Islam. Instead of excising Ali, the first Shi'a Imam, as the Sunni's have done, the Wahabbi's have sought to coopt him and bring him and his followers on board their train.
Remember that there has been a violent history in the interaction between Sunni and Shi'a since the death of the grandson of Ali (Hussein and the most revered of all Shi'a saints.. the central focus of the annual Ashura ritual where macho men beat themselves bloody with janzeer and swords.
The Wahabbi's don't believe in Saints, but they also fear a Shi'a revival, and let's not forget that Ayatollah (Verse of Allah) Khomeini, sent his wife and a delegation to ignite an insurrection in Mecca during the 1980 Hajj pilgrimage.
The Taliban are a new Islamic cult, one created by the Wahabbis and one that was fed, supported and still is by the U.S. Government, either by our leaders kindly and subordinate relations with the Saudi's or the Pakistani's.
This new cult is a syncretic union of Shi'ah and Wahabbiyah..not hostile to either, at least ostensibly. The Iranians gave and give succor to the Talban, so long as they kept and keep their activities on their side of the border and did not pose an existential threat to the mullahcracy of Iran, but when they cross border and pose a threat, then Iran reacts harshly and effectively.
But theologically, there is room in the Taliban play book for Arab Wahabbiyyah and Persian Shi'ah.
Elsewhere in the land of Islam, the alliance between Shi'a and Sunni is tenuous and is best expressed by the Arabic saying. "Me against my brother, my brother and I against my cousin, my brother, cousin and I against the stranger".
And the stranger is the Kufr, the unbeliever, the Christian, the Jew, those who do not accept Muhammad as the final prophet of Allah, or believe in the Arabic chief god Al Ilah - Allah.
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