COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, April 01, 2007

The Cancer is Back



Metastasis (Greek: change of the state, plural: metastases), sometimes abbreviated Mets, is the spread of cancer from its primary site to other places in the body (e.g., brain, liver).

Cancer cells can break away from a primary tumor, penetrate into lymphatic and blood vessels, circulate through the bloodstream, and grow in a distant focus (metastasize) in normal tissues elsewhere in the body.







Sometimes, despite the best efforts of "modern medicine," cancer comes back. Unless every cell is removed or destroyed, the possibility exists for regrowth of the existing cancer or a metastasis elsewhere in the body. Tony Snow and Elizabeth Edwards are two prominent examples of cancer patients whose cancer has traveled through their bodies. So is Pakistan.

The cancer is Islamenoma, commonly known as Islamic Fundamentalism, and left untreated (as it has been in western Pakistan), the prognosis is grim. This report by Bill Roggio (ht: Panama Ed) could be considered the most recent of three major press releases concerning the unwelcome return of a malignancy.

Pakistan's Civil War

Events over the past week highlight the deteriorating situation in the country.

Over the past week, the Taliban have been very active in Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province. The Taliban attacked the town of Tank, re initiated its turf war with the Uzbeks in Waziristan and continues to consolidate gains in Kohat and Bannu. But perhaps most disturbing event isn't the slow disintegration of the Pakistani state at the fringes, but the open defiance from the Taliban in the heart of Pakistani capital. At the peripheries, Pakistan is either engaged in a full scale civil war or is abandoning territory. At the core in Islamabad, the Islamist see real weakness in the Musharraf regime, and is growing bolder each day.

The Talibanization of Islamabad & the Las Masjid

The recent developments in Islamabad prove the Taliban and al Qaeda are not satisfied with remaining confined to the tribal belt or even the Northwest Frontier province and Baluchistan. The pro-Taliban leaders of the Las Masjid have become emboldened by the weakness of the Musharraf government of late, and are now openly challenging the rule of law in the very heart of Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan.

Zaffar Abbas, in an article titled "The creeping coup," explains how two brothers, Maulana Abdul Aziz and Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi, run a pro-Taliban movement in and around Islamabad. Aziz "heads Islamabad’s biggest Jamia Fareedia madrassa" which "at any time... boasts over 7,000 students seeking higher degrees in Islamic education.""

Lal Masjid and its adjacent Hafsa madrassa have not only managed to enforce the Taliban-style system of ‘moral policing’ in matters of ‘vice and virtue’, to date they remain in control of the situation" in Islamabad, notes Mr. Abbas. Bands of burka-clad women wielding batons patrol the streets enforcing Sharia, just as Saudi Arabia's notorious 'Department for Virtue and Vice,' or the religious police, do. "Within no time [after becoming emboldened by government weakness over the past few months] groups of men and women from the brigade started visiting shops, threatening them with dire consequences if they didn’t stop selling DVDs, CDs or music cassettes," reports Mr. Abbas. "People were also issued directives about dress codes and other ‘moral and ethical’ issues."

The initial surgery in Afghanistan was not entirely successful and the Taliban cancer is now threatening to kill Pakistan which has been in a weakened condition for quite some time anyway. In October, I wrote:
Musharraf's on borrowed time. He knows it and with his book sales, has been feathering his nest in anticipation of his future endeavers. His value to the west has been as an ally against Islamists in Pakistan and his days of playing it down the middle between Bush and the Taliban are numbered. Both sides are becoming impatient.

It will be better when Musharraf is gone. Perhaps, then an aggressive treatment program can begin in earnest.

Step by stumbling step,
we wind our way through the darkness,

learning as we go.




89 comments:

  1. It will be better when Musharraf is gone. Perhaps, then an aggressive treatment program can begin in earnest.

    If people are dumb enough to wanna try sharia law they deserve to get it good and hard. Let the Taliban taoke their 7th Century travelling road show to as many villages that they want, let Musharffaf go down, sell the Indians the latest exportable US fighters and medium-range missiles, and most important, ban all travel from Pakistan to the US, no matter how long the layover in a third country.

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  2. We better have a heart to heart with the Indians, just in case that it has been overlooked. Afterall, we were light a detail or two in Iraq.

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  3. Bobalharb: A travelling Taliban road show, with nukes, sounds scary to me.

    Unfortunately, we are so bogged down in Iraq we can't do anything about it Bobal, except what I outlined above.

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  4. Our Air Force is not too busy.

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  5. Worst case protocol:

    1. Forget about nation building.
    2. Bomb to rubble.
    3. Strafe anything that moves.

    Repeat steps 2 and 3 as necessary.

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  6. Whit: Worst case protocol:

    1. Forget about nation building.
    2. Bomb to rubble.
    3. Strafe anything that moves.

    Repeat steps 2 and 3 as necessary.


    We got the Northern Alliance to act as proxy infantry in Operation Enduring Freedom, so we should get the Indian Air Force to act as proxy carpet bombers in Operation No Juice For Jihadis.

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  7. Symposium: The First Nuclear Terrorist Power

    If someone would like to link it -

    http://www.frontpagemag.com
    /Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=27517

    ...However hopeful, I also do not share the optimism that generals loyal to Musharraf would retain power after his demise. Powerful groups and individuals in Pakistan are certainly unlikely to execute an assassination without preparations to fill the power void it would leave behind. Otherwise, were Musharraf-aligned generals to be left to assume control and lead as he had, one would have to believe that an assassination of Musharraf would be intended as merely a personal punishment rather than a power play, which is almost never the case historically. Why attempt an assassination only to get more of the same?

    The mention of Pakistani nuclear scientists Sultan Bashiruddin Mohammad and Abdul Majid and their jihadi contacts is timely, considering the reports that to two Pakistani nuclear scientists were recently kidnapped from a Pakistani nuclear facility in the North-West Frontier Province by the Taliban and are said to have done so at the behest of al-Qaeda. The veracity of this particular report notwithstanding, its plausibility demonstrates the multi-faceted WMD risk Pakistan presents. It's not just nuclear warheads, though clearly the most dangerous. Pakistan is a state with myriad WMD technological capability and human resources that exists within a spiralling nexus of terrorist activity.

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  8. Meanwhile on the homefront

    A week ago today at EB -

    ...it's the typical Western mindset, coddled into believing that all of their protection, all their needs can be met by the state. This has made the west particularly vulnerable to actors who operate within the targets population and attack the weak underbelly of society.
    ...................................

    John Robb, a former Air Force officer and tech guru, has a new book - Brave New War:

    ...During the summer of 2004, a small group of Iraqi insurgents blew up a southern section of the Iraqi oil pipeline infrastructure. This attack cost an estimated $2,000 to produce, and no attackers were caught, while the explosion cost Iraq $500 million in lost oil exports—a rate of return 250,000 times the cost of the attack (4GW).

    The shift from state-against-state conflicts to wars against small, ad hoc bands of like-minded insurgents will lead to a world with as many tiny armies as there are causes to fight for. Our new enemies are looking for gaps in vital systems where a small, cheap action—blowing up an oil pipeline or knocking out a power grid—will generate a huge return.

    Drawing on scores of chilling examples from the ongoing insurgency in Iraq, Robb reveals how the technology that has enabled globalization also allows terrorists, criminals, and violent ideologues of every stripe to join forces against a far bigger and richer foe without revealing their identities, following orders, or even working toward the same ultimate goal. This new brand of open-source warfare enables insurgents to coordinate attacks, swarm on targets, and adapt rapidly to changes in their enemy's tactics, all at minimal cost and risk. And now, Robb shows, it is being exported around the world, from Pakistan to Nigeria to Mexico, creating a new class of insurgents he calls global guerrillas.

    This evolutionary leap in the methods of warfare makes it possible for extremely small nonstate groups to fight states and possibly win on a regular basis. The use of systems disruption as a method of strategic warfare gives rise to a nightmare scenario in which any nation—including the United States—can be driven to bankruptcy by an enemy it can't compete with economically. We are staring at a future where defeat isn't experienced all at once but as an inevitable withering away of military, economic, and political power through wasting conflicts with minor foes.

    How can we defend ourselves against this new menace?

    Decentralize all of our systems, from energy and communications to security and markets. It is time for ...every citizen to take personal responsibility for some aspect of state security. It is time to make our systems, and ourselves, as flexible, adaptable, and resilient as the forces that are arrayed against us.

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  9. Decentralize all of our systems, from energy and communications to security and markets. It is time for ...every citizen to take personal responsibility for some aspect of state security. It is time to make our systems, and ourselves, as flexible, adaptable, and resilient as the forces that are arrayed against us.

    This means the end of the city, rendering weapons of mass destruction totally moot point. Fortunately, peer-to-peer technology, currently used for ripping off music, is teaching us how to set up decentralized self-repairing networks. Already people are abandoning movie theaters for their home systems. It will mean a vast change in our culture, as we shift away from our habit of bunching up, like at football games or the nine-to-five grind downtown, which is a hold-over from the days when walls were needed to keep the bad guys out. Transform America from 300 centers with a million people to a million centers with 500 people and we can sustain any external assault.

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  10. The Surgical Equivalent would be to cut out half of the tumor, then move the remaining half east six inches (assuming ass is pointed toward mecca) leave the incision open, and leave to operate on another patient/victim.
    (Perhaps and Iraqi)
    ---
    One by one over the past five years, choices, actions, and most of all inaction has lead to most of the left's charges, which seemed typical and laughable coming true.
    The Non-Wars and their
    negative results.

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  11. Panama Ed cites Mark Steyn:

    On Sept. 11, a New York skyscraper was brought down by the Egyptian leader of a German cell of an Afghan terror group led by a Saudi. Islamism is only the first of many globalized ideological viruses that will seep undetected across national frontiers in the years ahead.
    Meanwhile, we put our faith in meetings of foreign ministers.

    "It is better to be making the news than taking it," wrote Winston Churchill in 1898. But his successors have gotten used to taking it, and the men who make the news well understand that.

    Mark Steyn

    Mark Steyn
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    Israel Warns of Hamas Military Buildup in Gaza The Palestinian faction is building tunnels and bunkers and smuggling in missiles and explosives, officials said.In Middle East, Bush Team Reboards the Clintonian Shuttle
    Sun Apr 01, 12:52:00 AM EDT

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    Israel Warns of Hamas Military Buildup in Gaza

    The Palestinian faction is building tunnels and bunkers and smuggling in missiles and explosives, officials said.
    In Middle East, Bush Team Reboards the Clintonian Shuttle

    Sun Apr 01, 12:52:00 AM EDT


    Doug said...
    (Still available on Frontpage of NY Times)

    Scathing Karzai assessment of Pakistan, re: Taliban

    "The Ally of My Ally is My Enemy"

    Video, NY Times, FrontPage

    Sun Apr 01, 01:02:00 AM EDT


    desert rat said...
    Also, on March 27, Major Hamza, an Inter-Service Intelligence (ISI) agent assigned to tracking al Qaeda in Pakistan, and Subedar Saeedur Rehmanan, Hamza's deputy, were murdered in Bajaur province along with two other ISI officials. Hamza and his team were traveling incognito and according to Alexis Debat, were hunting Ayman al Zawahiri, al Qaeda's second in command.

    "Pakistani officials conceded the attackers knew closely-held details of the men's journey, including the timing of the men's trip, their route and their purpose."

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  12. Left out the Links, above:
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    Israel Warns of Hamas Military Buildup in Gaza

    The Palestinian faction is building tunnels and bunkers and smuggling in missiles and explosives, officials said.
    In Middle East, Bush Team Reboards the Clintonian Shuttle

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  13. Obama says Congress will fund Iraq war

    “[N]o lawmaker ‘wants to play chicken with our troops,’ Sen. Barack Obama said Sunday.”

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  14. Congress will fund the troops, Mr Bush will veto the funding.

    Mr Obama will be proven correct.
    Congress will not have "played chicken", Mr Bush and Mr Rove will be. All for political gain.

    The Marine LtCol. laid out the case, yesterday.

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  15. Re: Doug's links.

    Only a fool can ignore what is happening.

    We just want to live in our "little world" oblivious to the coming storm.

    Meanwhile, what the hell are our leaders thinking?

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  16. Whit,
    The same thing the multitude of cheerleaders on the "Right Wing"
    Blogosphere are thinking and singing:

    "Tra la la,
    la, la
    Everything is wonderful,
    everthing is fine,
    W's the CIC,
    and he's mine all mine."

    (also known as:
    Ignorance is Bliss.
    ...actually the
    Willful "ignorance" of DENIAL)

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  17. So people can bitch and moan about the bitchers and moaners, I'm still mad as Hell at watching us spiral down the drain, at home and abroad.

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  18. "I’m Andrew Horne, coming to you from Louisville, Ky. I served in the United States Marine Corps for 27 years, including time in the Persian Gulf during Operation Desert Storm, and then again in 2004 and 2005 as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I am proud of my service, and very proud of those men and women currently in harm’s way who are doing their best in a terribly difficult situation.
    ...
    "In short, the Commander-in-Chief has failed to properly lead the troops, and previous Congresses didn’t ask the tough questions, or demand accountability. The result is the mess we are in today.

    "This week, the majority in Congress has taken the lead in providing for our troops. Supplemental spending bills passed by the House and Senate provide a much-needed change in the President’s Iraq policy. This legislation also provides billions for our troops, giving them the proper protection and training they need to survive in Iraq, as well as funds to fix Walter Reed, provide health care to our troops and veterans, and research and heal traumatic brain injuries that many troops suffered.

    "Some of the top generals who served this nation with honor have endorsed what the House and Senate passed. The bills closely mirror what was proposed by the non-partisan Iraq Study Group that was appointed by President Bush. I know my fellow troops are eager to get what the bills provide.

    "At the same time, these bills both demand something that previous Congresses did not – accountability from the administration. Both bills demand that the President continue to verify that we are moving Iraq towards stability, and that we are on track to disengage our combat troops from the Iraqi Civil War by 2008.

    "Accountability is something this administration has demanded of everyone else. Go to the website of the White House, and put in a search for the word “accountability.” What comes up is a list of nearly 2,000 pages on the site that mention the word.
    ...
    "Both Houses of Congress have done their jobs and will soon finish a bill that will provide for the troops. When they’re done, the only person who could keep funds from reaching troops would be the President. If the President vetoes this bill because he doesn’t want to formally demonstrate progress in Iraq, never in the history of war would there be a more blatant example of a Commander-in-Chief undermining the troops. There is absolutely no excuse for the President to withhold funding for the troops, and if he does exercise a veto, Congress must side with the troops and override it.

    "As a loyal Marine who loves my country and my fellow troops and veterans, I ask you, Mr. President, please do not withhold funding from our troops because you are afraid to change course and show progress in Iraq.


    The Congress will claim they are just using their "Power of the Purse", totally "legitimate" use of it, they'll say.

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  19. Doug: So people can bitch and moan about the bitchers and moaners, I'm still mad as Hell at watching us spiral down the drain, at home and abroad.

    Sun Tzu said: To make yourself invulnerable to defeat lies in your own hands, but the enemy himself must provide you with the opportunity to defeat him.

    This means: We should do everything available within our own power to turn this into Fortress America; at the same time, waiting for the dispersed enemy in this so-called asymmetrical war to concentrate his power somewhere, let us say Iran, providing at last a single neck for us to slice with the meat axe.

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  20. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The House and Senate bills have too much pork, too many conditions on our commanders and an artificial timetable for withdrawal.

    (APPLAUSE)

    BUSH: And I have made it clear for works, if either version comes to my desk, I'm going to veto it.

    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Calm down with the threats. There's a new Congress in town. We respect your constitutional role; we want you to respect ours.

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  21. DR: The Congress will claim they are just using their "Power of the Purse", totally "legitimate" use of it, they'll say.

    If you refer to the funding bill with benchmarks in it, their claim will be based on two powers explicity laid out in the Constitution Article I Section 8:

    To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

    To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

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  22. Mirror, Mirror...
    (they should also show a can rolling down the street)

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  23. Exactly, Ms T.

    Who defines the Mission?

    Can the Congress decide when the Mission is complete?
    By what ever Standard the Congress choses to set?

    Seems so to me.

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  24. The situation in Pakistan is so murky.

    One should not forget the relationship during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan - the ISI was used by the CIA as a go-between - to channel weapons and Mujahideen mercenaries.

    In addition, rumors (no idea as to the truth) of ISI-CIA interaction throughout the 1990s during the civil war in Yugoslavia.

    DR has commented on the Saudi/Paki relationship - which feeds into the current discussion.

    From Asia Times: Jan 27, 2007 -

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes
    /South_Asia/IA27Df02.html

    US elevates Pakistan to regional kingpin

    ...A sense of alarm over the Taliban's resurgence is apparent in regional capitals, especially Moscow, Tehran and New Delhi. Top leaders of the erstwhile Northern Alliance (which spearheaded the anti-Taliban resistance) visited Tehran in recent weeks and held consultations with Iranian officials. Iranian and Indian foreign ministers visited Kabul.

    Central Asian countries feel equally nervous about the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan. A spurt in radical Islamist activities in the Ferghana Valley in Central Asia is noticeable. China also recently claimed to have come across extensive links between Uighur militants in Xinjiang and "international terrorist" organizations. Evidently, the "war on terror" in Afghanistan is becoming a hot topic in the region all over again.

    But there are other nuances, too. It appears that the US has broached with Pakistan the issue of "help and assistance" in respect of its standoff with Iran. At any rate, the timing of Musharraf's tour of the pro-American Sunni Arab capitals Riyadh, Cairo and Amman last weekend was important. The hurriedly arranged tour followed consultations of the US secretaries of state and defense in Riyadh.

    In a rare gesture, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia personally received Musharraf at the airport at Riyadh. Also, a grateful Saudi king conferred on Musharraf the "King Abdul Aziz Prize", Saudi Arabia's highest award. For some obscure reason, Musharraf has become the first-ever Pakistani leader to receive such an honor.

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  25. T, Sun Apr 01, 09:03:00 PM EDT
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    The longer we wait, and the more formidable the enemy becomes, the better off we are.
    We're WINNING!
    ---
    Sounds a lot like Belmont did for a long time, replacing the Master Planner Poker Player in Chief with the Sunny Guy.
    ---
    "I'm in Love,
    and It's a Sunny Day."

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  26. "For some obscure reason"
    ---
    Same reason Tenent and Normie Minneta got the Gold from W.
    (did Minneta REALLY get the Medal of Freedom???)
    ...I'll check to make sure.

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  27. COULTER:
    "What I'm writing about is foreign policy and the defense of the nation and, as I say, I think the Bush administration is doing a fabulous job.

    Oh no, I'm sorry, there is one policy change. I would fire Norman Minneta and I would allow airport -- he's the secretary of transportation
    -- and I would allow airport security to look --
    give an extra little look at people who look like the last two dozen terrorists. "

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  28. Mr Bush should join hands with Mr Maliki and announce the November hand-off.

    But here is an indication of how ill prepared the Iraqi are, after four years of being the "Primary Mission"

    they Stand Up, we Stand Down

    A sufficient but not necessary condition of success is adequate resources to build an Iraqi Army, National Police, local Police, and Border Patrol. We are still in the wrong ball park. The Iraqis need to capacity to jail 150,000 criminals and terrorists. They must have an air force with 150 US helicopters. (The US Armed Forces have 100+ medevac helicopters and 700 lift or attack aircraft in-country.) They need 5000 light armored vehicles for their ten divisions. They need enough precision, radar-assisted counter-battery artillery to suppress the constant mortar and rocket attacks on civilian and military targets. They should have 24 C130’s---and perhaps three squadrons of light ground attack aircraft. I mention
    these numbers not to be precise—but to give an order of magnitude estimation that refutes our current anemic effort. The ISF have taken horrendous casualties. We must give them the leverage to replace us as our combat formations withdraw in the coming 36 months.


    They'll run out of time, because we still aren't begun to talk about what the Iraqi really need to do.

    Still no video production packs out there. Our GIs can't match aQ on the web? I don't believe it for a minute, just set 2,000 of 'em on that mission. With adequate equipment and opportunty to tell US their stories.

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  29. Doug said...
    Norman Minneta's number 2 man that liasons with congress is the son of a Radical Muslim.
    Thanks Normie, you F....... Rat.

    7/25/2005 02:00:00 PM
    Doug said...
    I think I NEED an implant.

    7/25/2005 02:01:00 PM
    Doug said...
    No, not there, Jeez.

    7/25/2005 02:02:00 PM
    Doug said...
    A white noise implant so I won't learn anything on Talk Radio.
    Sperry gives me the creeps.

    7/25/2005 02:02:00 PM
    desert rat said...
    Normie never comes to the desert,
    so his f....rat and I are not related, I hope

    7/25/2005 02:03:00 PM
    Doug said...
    Deport Norman Minetta!

    7/25/2005 02:04:00 PM
    Doug said...
    I wonder where our friend Zub is?
    He just moved from Glasgow to London.
    ...our very own Paki agent?
    (by way of Bangladesh)

    7/25/2005 02:09:00 PM
    Doug said...
    Just kidding, of course, Zub!

    7/25/2005 02:09:00 PM
    desert rat said...
    to where?
    The only place I can think that would take him is Uzbeckistan.
    But it would most likely cost US another 50 million, annually

    7/25/2005 02:10:00 PM
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  30. doug, you may find these two perspectives interesting

    Baztab News - Islamic Republic of Iran; The Americans Only Look 'Simple-Minded'

    http://watchingamerica.com
    /baztabnews000001.shtml

    and

    Asia Times; Real US battles with Iran still lie ahead

    http://www.atimes.com
    /atimes/Middle_East/IC31Ak01.html

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  31. If, elijah, the Shia consolidate in Basra, which seems a sure thing what with the Rial the currency of choice. They will then control the Iraqi side of the Saud border.

    How restless is the Shia minority in eastarn Saudi Arabia, over the oil fields?

    The King has a lot of equipment that he has bought, but only 250,000 men in uniform. If he thought he needed more boots, the Pakistani have the capacity to supply them. A course not without risks of its' own, but one that fits the puzzle of Shia containment by the Sunni.

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  32. Who Goes There?


    Doug said...
    Most of the Muslim illegals at Dulles just changed jobs after 9-11.

    7/25/2005 01:27:00 PM
    Mannning said...
    My term for the terrorists we fight is" Renegade Muslims.

    7/25/2005 01:29:00 PM

    Doug said...
    AQ Training Camps up and running in Pakistan, along with THOUSANDS of Mosques, some under Mussaraff's nose.
    (Target practice w/W's photo)
    Hinterlands, indeed, 'Rat.
    7/25/2005 01:30:00 PM


    Doug said...
    Paul Sperry's new Book:
    INFILTRATION.

    7/25/2005 01:32:00 PM

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  33. Senator Obama anticipates a presidential veto, which will not be overridden. He then expects the Congress to do a bill without the timeline.

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  34. Four children have been killed and six injured in a suicide car bomb attack on an Afghan army convoy in eastern Afghanistan, police say. Several soldiers and civilians were also wounded in the incident.

    ...

    The suicide attack which killed the four children was targeting an Afghan army convoy in Mehtar Lam in Laghman province, about 100km (60 miles) east of the capital, Kabul.

    Police said the children were in the vicinity when the attacker blew up his explosives-filled car near the convoy. The soldiers were on their way back to base after helping flood victims in the area, a defence ministry spokesman said, according to the Associated Press news agency.


    Afghan Attack

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  35. Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority
    Ms. Jamison noted the request by a VTA Board Member to include a second alternative to provide for tail tracks to be taken down into a trench to facilitate direct extension of the BART system into the
    Norman Y. Minneta International Airport
    in an underground subway.

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  36. Two years, same old story, same old song.

    But no forward movement in Afghanistan, just get to watch NATO crumble before the Mohammedan March.

    Germans can't fly at night.
    French have left, off to Lebanon.
    Brits are leavin' Iraq in order to send 1600 more Tommies to Afghanistan.
    We withdrew the Marines Unit that fought back an ambush, leaving the shooters in Afghanistan, until the criminal investigation is over.

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  37. If MacArthur and Westmoreland had difficulty getting authorization to "win" in some military sense, current commanders face a more basic problem: getting
    recognition that their nation and much of the world is at war against an enemy which cannot -- witness Mr. Annan's difficulties -- actually be named.

    If the key to winning the Cold War proved to be Reagan's willingness to entertain the hope of victory, the key to winning the Global War on Terror may simply be a willingness to identify the foe. It's a start anyway.

    posted by wretchard at 7/24/2005 04:18:00 AM
    357 Comments:

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  38. That's what he says today, allen, but don't bet the farm on Mr Obama spinning straight and narrow.

    They will be making decisions on the fly, depending upon public sentiment and donor dollars.

    Send the same up, again, couple of times if their base is approving. Depends on how the messages are framed. Mr Rove will be called, and rufuse to testify to Congress, all spun together.

    The Dems may fold, after playin' all the head games, just trying to decieve their base.

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  39. Elijah, you are a great contributor here at the elephant but obviously link challenged, as i was and Bob and Allen.

    I added to whit's post at the top and bottom a picture of what you have to type to make a link. You can copy that as you would copy any jpeg and save it to refer to it or write it down. Type it exactly as it is written. Put the URL address between the parenthesis, and the subject between the facing arrows. This would be for the belmont club, with the subject abbreviation as BC. try it. We will help you.

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  40. Whit will think Wretchard hacked us.

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  41. Afghanistan: 'Two feet and a lot of skin'

    They stream into Afghanistan from Pakistan on foot, on bicycles and on motorcycles with only one thing on their minds:

    To blow themselves up, and as many others as they can in the process.
    They've been dubbed Osama bin Laden's "bastard children", and US soldiers are trained to spot them (a shifty look is a dead give-away).
    But not one has been caught alive.
    ---
    Iraq's car-bombers defy all odds

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  42. DR,

    The appropriations bill was gamed by Congressional leadership before coming to a vote. In order to get the bare minimum necessary for passage, the bill had to incorporate about 16% pork fat in the way of bribes.

    I believe the president will give the Congress its pork to gain removal of the timeline. After some posturing, the Congress will concede, rather than risk a Constitutional crisis and the anger of the public.

    It should be recalled that the Democrats think their presidential chances are very good in '08. That being the case, no Democrat contender will want the precedent of a dirty appropriations bill limiting presidential authority in a new administration.

    Politically, both sides have created a win-win situation. Whether such dealing is in the interest of the United States and the military, I have doubt.

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  43. Doug: T, Sun Apr 01, 09:03:00 PM EDT
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    The longer we wait, and the more formidable the enemy becomes, the better off we are.
    We're WINNING!


    I hate the blogs on this particular day of the calendar. Same April Fool's crap over on BC.

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  44. MUSLIM cleric Taj Din al-Hilali personally handed out in Beirut tens of thousands of dollars collected at Australian mosques in the aftermath of last year's Israel-Hezbollah war but has failed to properly detail where the money went.

    The funds raised by Islamic organisations, including the Lebanese Muslim Association, following the 34-day war were earmarked for the victims of the conflict.
    But documents obtained by The Australian reveal that $US10,000 was handed to a supporter of the Iraqi insurgency, Sheik Bilal Shaaban, to go towards his Islamic radio station.

    The $70,000 raised by the Australian Muslim community was electronically transferred into the private bank account in Lebanon of an LMA employee - Yihya Safi - before it was withdrawn and handed out by Sheik Hilali and Sheik Safi.


    Lebanon Aid Unaccounted for

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  45. Trish hit the problem on the head. A couple of the guys were talking about DaNang and I was picturing it in 1966 and then the South Vietnamese losing it with most of the equipment in 75. Same in Afghanistan.

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  46. On New Year's Day, 1975, the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN) surrounded the provincial capital of Phuoc Binh, 75 miles from Saigon; one week later the town was theirs. Quang Tri, south of the Demilitarised Zone, and Phan Rang followed, then Bat Me Thout, Hue, Danang and Qui Nhnon in quick succession and with little bloodshed. Danang, once the world's greatest military base, was taken by a dozen cadres of the Front for the Liberation of Vietnam (the NLF, known as the Vietcong by the Americans) waving white handkerchiefs from the back of a truck. A United Press wirepicture of an American punching a South Vietnamese "ally" squarely in the face as the Vietnamese tried to climb on board the last American flight from Nha Trang to Saigon held a certain symbolism of what had gone before.

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  47. To the "strongman" that the Army, loyal to US, rally to. Which would be Mr Allawi, I guess.

    Most likely why none of that stuff is delivered or even ordered.

    But it does demonstrate the spread from the storyline to the reality of the situation. The Iraqi Army couldn't possibly secure the Country without the equipment.

    And we are not about to deleiver it.

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  48. Az-Zaman said that 'Allawi has gained the approval of Anbari tribes (no doubt with the help of his Sunni ally, 'Adnan al-Dulaimi) and introduced new independent parties into his political coalition. The newspaper said that 'Allawi is still negotiating with the Shi'a Al-Fadhila party and will propose an alliance with the Kurdish parties (which control a sizeable portion of the Iraqi parliament.)

    If these plans come through, 'Allawi will have (mathematically) a veritable chance to form a new government cabinet. However, 'Allawi’s talks with the Kurdish parties, the deciding factor in terms of who controls the parliament’s majority have been unfruitful so far, with the Kurdish leaders insisting on their alliance with the Shi'a coalition headed by 'Abd al-'Azeez al-Hakeem.

    What is more interesting in Az-Zaman’s lead story is the fact that the Iraqi Vice-President, Tariq al-Hashimi, is attempting to construct a new coalition, similar to 'Allawi’s in several ways and carrying a comparable “anti-sectarian” agenda. Az-Zaman said that al-Hashimi has also entered talks with the Fadhila party and that he is engaged in a race with 'Allawi to gather allies for a bid for the Prime Ministership.


    Government Cabinet

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  49. Iraqi Justice Minister Hashem al-Shibli has resigned, the first cabinet member to do so since the current government took office nearly a year ago.

    ...

    Political sources suggested that one of his issues with the government had been over the manner in which Saddam Hussein was hanged at the end of December.

    ...

    Arrangements for determining Kirkuk's future are contained in Article 140 of the new Iraqi constitution. Mr Shibli was head of the commission in charge of implementing that article.


    Minister Resigns

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  50. trish,

    The Shi'a and Kurds seem to be working together along the unorthodox line of federal/cantonism. Within such an arrangement would be plenty of room for faction leaders to hold forth.

    As to the Sunni, no recent poll actvity shows better cooperation from that sect. Indeed, the impression given by the Sunni is one of struggle to regain a somewhat smaller, yet powerful, controling governmental cadre, i.e. the Sunni want disproportinate representation in the National system. The Kurds and Shi'a, obviously, to not intend to comply. The United States needs to begin moving its mindset into a federation outcome.

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  51. Trish: They'll get a strongman. But years after we're gone. There's no one to pull it off for the foreseeable future.

    And until they get one, Jimmy Carter won't be interested.

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  52. bobalharb,

    Elijah is not only a technical quick study but a man whose aesthetic sensitivity will endear him at the EB.

    Bravo!

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  53. Trish: When you find yourself acting as a buffer, that's when it's time to pull back - and out.

    Yeah, Senator, the Elephant Bar Family's got lots of buffers.

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  54. The British Embassy in Tehran was shut down three times in the turbulent decade that followed the Shah’s overthrow in 1979.

    On one occasion in 1978 – a turbulent year before the Islamic Revolution – the embassy was ransacked by a crowd who forced open the high gates. In the early 1980s a street flanking the embassy was renamed after the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, although a new street sign now gloriously misspells it as Babi Sandz street.

    However, taxi drivers still refer to it by its old name – Churchill Street.


    British Embassy

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  55. Missed this last night:

    Our take on Fire, Smoke, Lightning, and Heavy Metal Thunder was somewhat different than the band’s – as in, Fire for Effect! Fire at Will!

    Steppenwolf: Born to Be Wild

    God Damn The Pusher

    Written by Hoyt Axton – Yeah, that Hoyt Axton.

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  56. The demonstrators hurled stones into the courtyard of the embassy.

    They also demanded that the Iranian government expel the British ambassador and close down the embassy, calling it a "den of spies."

    Britain's Foreign Office said there had been no damage to the compound.


    Demonstrators

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  57. Cordesman -
    p. 4 - "Its air forces remain vulnerable in any form of mission, but are less vulnerable near
    Iranian bases, sensor coverage, and SAM coverage."

    For those of you interested in SEAD and SAM coverage as it relates to the gulf and Iranian nuclear installations, this is a good open source thread...

    Air defense & Attack

    p.6 - "Its chronic...economic mismanagement...has made it extremely dependent on a few refineries, product imports, and food imports."

    Exacerbated by financial warfare as previously discussed at EB

    p.6 - ..."and reportedly plans to send a third one were considered6"

    Considered and on the way -

    Nimitz

    bobalharb, i will refrain from further upsetting the delicate flowers in our midst

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  58. trish said...
    "By all means press for Democratic Elections ASAP in Pakistan."

    - doug
    Pakistan and KSA are two good current demonstrations of a little-appreciated characteristic of Arab and Islamic nations - namely, that the rulers are usually less radical, less zealous, than those they rule.

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  59. Trish was just trying to make me look bad.
    What I really said in toto was:
    ---
    "By all means press for Democratic Elections ASAP in Pakistan.
    (I'll bet that's what State Dept Policy is.)

    Nukes and missiles for the Taliban, what a treat!

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  60. possum tater said...
    We are not fighting armies but a hostile people

    Bingo, we have a winner...

    Elections have consequences?

    With non-state actors, (as previously with Hamas or Hezbollah) actions can be conducted that would be considered acts of war if they were committed by another state. But how do you declare war on an enemy that has all the destructive potential of a state, but is not itself a state?

    There’s no capital city you can destroy, no industrial infrastructure you can degrade.
    All there is are people, scattered through the general population. Now, however, the general population is Hamas and Hezbollah, the movement is the government and the government is the people (and as bin laden states, the people are responsible for the actions of their government) - Syria and Iran as well

    South Lebanon got just a small taste last summer.

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  61. While our own leaders are making mischief overseas, foreign leaders are making mischief here at home, one can judge by President Lula's visit with President Bush at Camp David. Mr. Bush skipped the Gridiron Dinner to confer with the Brazilian braggart, who, when asked about the hostage crisis, proceeded to insult his host.

    "Petrobas will continue to invest in oil prospecting in Iran. Iran has been an important trade partner for Brazil. They buy from us more than $1 billion, and they almost sell anything to us," Mr. Lula said.

    "I know that there's political divergence on this between Iran and other countries, but with Brazil, we have no political divergence with them, so we will continue to work together with Iran on what is of the interest of Brazil."


    Separate Peace

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  62. elijah,

    Since much comfort is being taken from the sanctuary provided by formal states to informal warriors, other state players, e.g. the US, must make clear that borders will have to be far less rigid in future. Permeability must reach some level of equilibrium.

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  63. Elijah,
    Thanks for the credit but that was just a copy and paste job from a few threads back, the one that showed William T. Sherman on horseback.

    However my record is crystal clear over the past two years over the fact that we should have bombed Baghdad into rubble and then rebuilt when the Arab world got the full message and measure of our power.

    Unfortunately there are far too few people on busses, at home,in the WH, and Pentagon over the past fifty years that totally disagree with winning an unconditional surrender from an enemy. Because of that it will be the death by a thousand cuts until the NBC device goes off in a major metro US area killing perhaps millions. Or until Israel realizes the US is a dangerous ally incapable of slitting throats

    We have a national security web that I am convinced was throughly currupted beginning in the Carter years and reinforced with great vigor during the Clinton administration. With Bill snorting coke,cigar pok'in interns, and jerking off in the WH Oval Office sink,do'in reefer and Hillary channelling Eleanor Roosevelt while following her Master's thesis on the great Saul Alinsky and his radicalism it is not surprising we're in the shape we're in right now.

    For now just make a list of where the mosques are in your area and when the BIG event occurs just follow the crowds that will be torching them across this country.
    Make no mistake, while the government doodles over who's on first and who did the attack, Joe Sixpack will be tak'in care of business right here in the good ole USA. It's just loike Sherman said:
    “This war differs from other wars, in this particular. We are not fighting armies but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war.”
    -William Tecumseh Sherman

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  64. Earlier in this thread, i may have introduced some of you to John Robb. Let me further familiarize you with his work and a variation of network centric warfare, and how his perspectives relate to current unfolding events

    Effects-Based Operations -

    Collapsing Iran

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  65. Bob-L,
    I've followed Ben for about thirty years. He makes great sense about many many things and I have found it a rare event to quibble with his logic, which is great.

    I was just reading the text of Harry Reid's statement bout what a great achievement it is to know (paraphrase) that we'll be out of Iraq in 365 days.

    That timetable nonesense than provoked this thought. If they push that line in various forms over a Presidential veto then we do have an option..a BIG option.
    Once the troops are out of harms way we leaflet the city of Baghdad, letting the population know that we have planted nuclear deivices all over the country and in every city...we give them time to evacutae to the desert or across borders to Syrian, Iran etc.
    We then proceed to air strike and detonnate those devices thus depriving the AQ,Hezzies, and all other terrorist groups of the oil and the strategic location Iraq holds.
    We wouldn't get any of the oil anyway, not at any price that wouldn't bankrupt us so remove it's viablity as a tool.
    We know the minute, probably before that Iraq will be annexed by various thugs and terrorist countries
    We even detonate only some of the hidden devices so that when the Iranians do move in , or try, we can catch a gaggle of them in a nice big nuke-kabob.
    Bottom line, not viable civilization left in what is known as Iraq. Totally scortched earth. Calcine desert for them to wonder in traditional tribal fashion.

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  66. To say that Al Qaeda was out of business simply because they have not attacked in the U.S. is whistling past the graveyard,”
    said
    Michael Scheuer, a former head of the bin Laden tracking unit at the C.I.A. “Al Qaeda is still humming along, and with a new generation of leaders.


    (but what would Michael Scheuer know, Right?)

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  67. That's from the Times link, where it says they disbanded the Station that was hunting bin Laden!
    Brilliant.
    First Bodine gets rid of O'Neill, Scheur is gone, I think, now they disband the Station!
    Captain! Captain!
    Full Speed Astern.

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  68. Now compare Mr. Robb's perspective to that found in a completely different arena, one i have mentioned before

    How do the they compare?

    Sabre-rattling by the Iranian President – actually designed to deter the US from attacking by highlighting Iran’s retaliatory potential – will only ensure that the Americans do go all out

    Unfortunately, there may be surprises in the U.S.

    If so, Waziristan will also cease to exist.

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  69. Bobal,
    When a Flood (probably 6 inches of rain) took out a bridge on the 5 Freeway near Coalinga, Wattenburg built them a quicktime temporary bridge using Freight Car Frames.

    In our little Canyon, our next door neighbor once used a truck frame.

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  70. Elijah
    Mr. Robb's EOB senario is good new fashioned thinking. Srugical strikes they use to be called. Now papers refer to nodes etc collasping to cause difficulty.

    I prefer to talk about acreage and body count,collateral damange, and civilian chaos and death as well as military targets destroyed nodes.
    Destroying nodes is all well and good but the population still has shelter. What the population needs is rubble, stacked as high as the rubble of the WTC. Street impassible, out breaks of deseases from rotting corpses. The TRUE horror of mass destruction that only those types of scene can produce. The type of psychological damage whereby the host population is so shocked by the totality of destruction that may go mad, truly over the falls.
    Get the nodes etc but these people like those of WWI and WWII are not immune from the absolutely mind altering trauma of seeing every building uninhabitable, no electricity, no water, no food , and NO HOPE. That is what we need to instill in them if we are to sustain ourselves. We must send them not the message of surgical strikes but of total destruction.
    We've got the MOABs and bigger, we don't have to use nuclear on Tehran and Qum etc.

    BTW, the other day when I mention destroying Qum as a message I believe it was Ms. T who asked what that would do.....
    well Qum is the religious city that OK'd the fatwah on the killing of Americans anywhere in the world at any time for any reason..that's good enough reason for me to remove it from the list of world cities.

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  71. no electricity, no water, no food , and NO HOPE.

    ...See Fig. 3 - Parallel Warfare – Simultaneous Attack Against All Vital Enemy Systems

    - total destruction
    ... depends on what happens here

    EBO

    EB thanks for the discussion

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  72. Bobal,
    But with a Berkeley Engineering Phd, I think.

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  73. Bill is 66, has a 38yr old wife and 8 Month old daughter!

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  74. Congrats Elijah.......this cracked me up.............

    ."bobalharb said...
    The Iranians might be surprised to find out how inscrutable Americans really are, not knowing our own minds from day to day, and fickle too.

    Mon Apr 02, 12:05:00 AM EDT

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  75. This thread is too good to take down just yet.
    I think I will just Let it Ride

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  76. trish said...
    ``Why is it that all the roads keep going back to Pakistan?''

    Pakistan is in the process of Islamization - a process with too much momentum for Musharaff to reverse.
    There is praise, sympathy, and respect for bin Laden not only among independent tribesmen in the Pakistani frontier, but throughout Pakistani society generally and in its military forces especially.

    There is much the same feeling for the Taliban, whose leadership took refuge there in 2001. The Taliban is the pro-Pakistan (as opposed to pro-India) government-in-exile of Afghanistan, at least in the POV of most Pakistanis.

    According to this point of view, it is only a matter of time before the Taliban returns to Kabul and Kandahar, and Musharaff is killed or ousted, and both Afghanistan and Pakistan once again have allied, and strict Islamist, regimes. Musharaff and Karzai represent an extremely unstable compromise between popular Islamist aspirations and traditions, on the one hand, and on the other the sophistication and moderation of small, non-Islamist, urban minorities looking West for badly needed economic assistance and defense aid.

    7/25/2005 12:05:00 PM

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  77. I agree, Deuce,
    and I think the present threat from Iran Pales compared to this mess we've watched get worse for 3+ years.

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  78. Rune said...
    Re. Europe unprepared. There’s an Iranian professor, Mehdi Mozaffari, at a university here, who a few years ago made headlines with the theory that Islamism is the last of the four great totalitarian ideologies
    Sleeping Beauty, The West ,
    August 25th, 2003

    Mehdi Mozaffari has a message: that both The West as well as Muslim communities ought deal with the Islamists in the same harsh way we dealt with Nazism and communism.

    He has only in recent years been met with understanding and intellectual interest for his warnings against extremist Muslims.

    Naïve dialogue
    Mehdi Mozaffari finds it very wrong when Western groups speak of entering into dialogue with anti-democratic Islamists.

    Dialogue with Islamists is foolishly naive and will only result in official recognition of totalitarian forces, says Mehdi Mozaffari. That the Islamists pose a real threat to democratic societies is evident. Western societies are vulnerable.

    The question is if such a strict denial of Islamism would not lead to violent clashes between the Islamic world and the Western. To this replies Mozaffari:

    No. The struggle is already on, and it is taking place all around us, all the time, between anti-democratic Islamists and the democratic world. Not between societies. This will be the most important political question of our century.

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  79. Wretchard is running a good discussion on what we have been posting about over at the The Belmont Club

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  80. "Step by stumbling step,
    we wind our way through the darkness,
    learning as we go.
    "
    ---
    Uh, that "we" is not meant to include the
    flat (to negative) learning curve Administration.

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  81. Mat's been suckin on that Nitrous again.
    I'm gonna turn him in to the ADA. If they suspend his license, he'll either get straight or kill himself with industrial grade Nitrous.

    Mətušélaḥ said...
    "
    LOL. The Iranians played this brilliantly? What can they do? If this situation is not resolved to the satisfaction of the British (and the Americans) within a year's time let's say, Teheran will have a hot war on its hands. Only, it is the British (and the Americans) who will decide when and where and how they will strike, while the Mullahs sweat it out guessing.
    "
    4/01/2007 11:29:00 PM

    The Mantra at BC for the last 4 years!
    ...and still they yammer on!

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  82. Hey, Deuce:
    What happened to your link jpeg at BC?
    ...all I see is a flatline.

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