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Tuesday, September 30, 2014

Are we getting our money’s worth from the US intelligence networks?

Use ISIS and the US trained Iraq army as an example:



  1. Yes, and no(?).

    He knew about ISIS and it's growing strength.

    The Iraqi Army?

    Who knows?


  2. Resigning on principle is not a strong tradition in the U.S. military. The so-called Revolt of the Admirals in the late 1940s began with the resignation of Navy Secretary John L. Sullivan following Defense Secretary Louis Johnson's cancellation of the carrier U.S.S. United States.


    Politics is, by human nature and design, complex and messy. It exists in the military no less than in other large organizations.

    But the stakes are particularly high where the nation's security is at risk—as it now is. Clarity of purpose is essential and where it is lacking—as in how to defeat ISIS—senior military officers can make an important difference with their actions.

    Obama - Military Divide

  3. Someone said resignation by officers was 'treason' which is doubtful in most circumstances.

    1. It was posted that there was a Congressman that was being "Seditious", by encouraging senior military to resign.
      Sedition is not the same as treason.

      It was the Congressman of whom it was said was behaving in a seditious manner, not the military men that the Congressman was speaking to.

      noun: sedition; plural noun: seditions
      conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

      Which is not at all the same a treason
      noun: treason; noun: high treason; plural noun: high treasons
      the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

      Sloppy language leads to sloppy thinking

      “Think before you speak.
      Read before you think.”

      ― Fran Lebowitz,

  4. The US military has failed, spectacularly.
    While operating as a SWAT Team it was successful. It took down Saddam, it took down the Taliban.
    Secured the building, as it were.

    But then, it failed to train its replacement, a mission it was tasked with and in each country had a decade to accomplish.

    As for the Daesh, who knows what the 'real' objective in training and equipping those fellows was.
    The "Intelligence" agencies may be getting their moneys worth, and more. We do know that Israel's objectives are being met.
    The "Yinon Plan" is moving right along, the chaos and strife we are seeing ... That is the Israeli plan in action, their strategy being implemented.

    The CIA has a long, long history of misleading the rest of US, to accomplish the goals of its leadership, the question of whether or not the Agency provides the truth to the President ... Well, who really knows. The Dulles brothers set the standard, and they were duplicitous, to say the least.

  5. A new Government Accountability Institute (GAI) report reveals that President Barack Obama has attended only 42.1% of his daily intelligence briefings (known officially as the Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB) in the 2,079 days of his presidency through September 29, 2014.

    The GAI report also included a breakdown of Obama’s PDB attendance record between terms; he attended 42.4% of his PDBs in his first term and 41.3% in his second.

    The GAI’s alarming findings come on the heels of Obama’s 60 Minutes comments on Sunday, wherein the president laid the blame for the Islamic State’s (ISIS) rapid rise squarely at the feet of his Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

    “I think our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that I think they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria,” said Obama.

    According to Daily Beast reporter Eli Lake, members of the Defense establishment were “flabbergasted” by Obama’s attempt to shift blame.

    “Either the president doesn’t read the intelligence he’s getting or he’s bullshitting,” a former senior Pentagon official “who worked closely on the threat posed by Sunni jihadists in Syria and Iraq” told the Daily Beast.


    Whether the intelligence agencies know anything or not is beside the point.

    Obama isn't listening.

    1. What makes you think that Obama's not taking the briefing, personally, is alarming?

      The information was available to his staff, which is all he may need on a daily basis.
      42%, looks like he was there, every other day, which could be more than enough to stay on top of the trends.

    2. Ronald Reagan slept, napped, during many of his briefings and Cabinet meetings, he said (paraphrasing now) that if something important happened, they'd wake him up.

      As Reagan half jokingly remarked to members of the press, "No matter what time it is, wake me up, even if it's in the middle of a cabinet meeting."

    3. .

      42%, looks like he was there, every other day, which could be more than enough to stay on top of the trends.

      No, it looks like he was there 2 out of 5 days.

      “Calculate correctly before you speak.
      Learn to calculate correctly before you calculate at all.”

      ― The Quirkster


    4. Another anecdote about how Presidents behave ...
      Again referencing Ronald W Reagan:

      A day or so later, now the official occupant of the White House, he was told the presidential day customarily began with meetings at 7:30 a.m.

      Oh, no! Not for this president, it wouldn't! The meetings could darn well go on without him. Because he wouldn't be there until nine o'clock in the morning, thank you.


      That apparent lack of seriousness, the lackadaisical attitude exhibited by President Reagan, do you find it to be 'alarming', Anonymous?

    5. .

      In this case, being there once a week would have been sufficient if he heard, understood, and cared.


    6. .

      “I think our head of the intelligence community, Jim Clapper, has acknowledged that I think they underestimated what had been taking place in Syria,” said Obama.

      Typical Obama. "The buck stops over there."

      Clapper is a liar, a prick, and a duplicitous SOB and there are probably a lot of presidents that had the same opinion of some in their administration. How many do you think would have publicly said it?


    7. Two out of five, Quirk, is every other day.
      Look at a calendar and think about

    8. .

      I'll amend the last sentence to 'how many do you think would have publicly said it to cover their own ass'?


    9. What was Clapper's 'real' goal?
      What is the objective that he 'really' working towards?

      It certainly is not upholding the Constitution.
      How loyal is he to the President?

    10. .

      Two out of five, Quirk, is every other day.
      Look at a calendar and think about


      Typical rat-figurin, taken out to the third toad.

      Good lord, rat. With the exception of rat-world, two out of five is 40%. I'm not sure what it is with the new Common Core curriculum but when you tell any 'normal' person something occurs 'every other' they assume 50% of the time.

      Looking at a calendar is simplistic. Unless rat-calculating involves the 'golf factor'. You know, you just write Friday off as a designated golf day. The numbers are there. This last term, he was there 41.3% of the time not every other day. Another example of your faulty logic. I'm not certain if you do this just because it is in your nature to dissemble or if you are just that stupid.



    11. .

      It certainly is not upholding the Constitution.
      How loyal is he to the President?

      Who gives a shit when it comes to the subject at hand, the president's propensity to deflect all criticism from himself and onto others.

      Speaking of deflection, that is exactly what you are trying to do now.


    12. The subject at hand is the amount of time the President spent listening to Mr Clapper, and the quality of the information that Mr Clapper relayed to the President.

      Whether Mr Obama not being at the daily briefing every day is alarming or par for Presidents.
      Whether the information that was being presented was accurate and worthy of the President's time.

      Now, you may think that is deflection, but it seems to me to go to the heart of the matter.

    13. .

      More bullshit.

      I've already said Obama doesn't have to be there everyday as long as he pays attention when he is there. My additional comments were that your math was suspect and that Obama has reverted to form in blaming everyone but himself for any problems.

      The deflection I mentioned was your attack on clapper which had nothing to do with the initial post on this stream which dealt with Obama's attendance at intelligence briefings.

      In a single stream, you have manifest you poor math, reading, and blogging skills.

      Heck of a job, Brownie.



  6. (Reuters) - Iraqi Kurdish forces captured a strategic border crossing and several villages from Islamic State fighters in northern Iraq on Tuesday, scoring gains as the militants were pounded by heavy U.S.-led air strikes and the Iraqi army advanced from the south.

    An Iraqi Kurdish political source said Kurdish peshmerga fighters took control of the Rabia border crossing with Syria in a battle that began before dawn.

    "It's the most important strategic point for crossing. Once that's taken it's going to cut the supply route and make the operation to reach Sinjar easier," the source said, referring to a mountain further south where members of the Yazidi minority sect have been trapped by Islamic State fighters.

    1. Twelve Islamic State fighters' bodies lay on the border at the crossing after the battle, said Hemin Hawrami head of the Kurdish Democratic Party's foreign relations department, on Twitter.

      The ability to cross the frontier freely has been a major tactical advantage for Islamic State fighters on both sides. Fighters swept from Syria into northern Iraq in June and returned with heavy weapons seized from fleeing Iraqi government troops, which they have used to expand their territory in Syria.

      U.S.-led forces have been bombing Islamic State targets in Iraq since August and expanded the campaign to Syria last week in an effort to defeat the fighters who have swept through Sunni areas of both countries, killing prisoners, chasing out Kurds and ordering Shi'ites and non-Muslims to convert or die.

    2. In two complex, multi-sided civil wars, the Sunni fighters are battling against Shi'ite-backed government in both countries, rival Sunni groups in Syria and separate Kurdish forces on either side of the frontier.

      Washington hopes the strikes, conducted with European allies in Iraq and with Arab air forces in Syria, will help government and Kurdish forces in Iraq and moderate Sunnis in Syria.

      In Iraq, a coalition of Iraqi army, Shi'ite militia fighters and Kurdish troops known as peshmerga have been slowly recapturing Sunni villages that had been under Islamic State control south of the Kurdish-held oil city of Kirkuk.

      "At dawn today, two villages near Daquq, 40 kilometres south of Kirkuk, Peshmerga forces liberated them from Islamic State," an Iraqi security official said.

      Islamic State fighters had used positions in the villages to fire mortars at neighbouring Daquq, a town populated mainly by ethnic Turkmen Shi'ite Muslims. When Kurdish fighters entered the villages they were empty, the security official said.


      Forces were also pushing north from the city of Tuz Khurmatu to drive Islamic State fighters out of the countryside that surrounds Kirkuk, the official said. He credited U.S.-led air strikes with helping the peshmerga clear the two villages.

      "This area witnessed intense air strikes from U.S.-led strikes and Iraqi air strikes overnight and at dawn," the official said.

      The explosions shook Kirkuk itself: "We felt the ground shaking beneath our feet, and then . . . . .

      The Ground, it be a'shakin'

    3. They said "It couldn't be done"
      And now it is happening.

      “Perfectionism is the voice of the oppressor, the enemy of the people.
      It will keep you cramped and insane your whole life.
      I think perfectionism is based on the obsessive belief that if you run carefully enough,…
      hitting each stepping-stone just right, you won't have to die.

      The truth is that you will die anyway ...”

      ― Anne Lamott

  7. That sound you heard up at Rabia? It was the Metal Door clanging shut.

    Welcome to Death Row.

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    1. The fact that the Iraqi are being forced to take on the responsibility for their own security, that could well be a deciding factor in their political future. It is a "Nation Building" experience.

    2. The new Prime Minister has already fired over 130 Officers.

      He has a tough row, but he seems to be trying to make some progress. It won't be easy; the Iraqi government is ranked as one of the most corrupt in the world (and he is, after all, a member of the same party as his disgraced predecessor.)

    3. The sergeant is the Army.
      Dwight D. Eisenhower

    4. And The First Lieutenant


    5. But, they're both rendered ineffective when the General takes the food, and ammunition, and sells it on the black market (sometimes, to your enemy.)

    6. Exactly, it seems quite evident that those in command of the Iraqi Army, in Mosul, were bought off.
      The US had contemplated doing that, prior to the invasion of Iraq, but decided it was not needed.

      The Saudi and the Emir of Qatar have all the funds needed to corrupt an Iraqi General, or even a President.

      If and when the Iraqi Army gets competent leadership, leaders that are not corrupted by foreign influences, their Army will be more than capable of taking on and defeating the Daesh, especially with Coalition air power over head.

      Those Iraqi troops that held that base, that did not "Cut and Run" when the suicide bombers arrived in Humvees tell the tale of the true timber of the Iraqi soldier.

    7. The first thing George Marshall did was to start firing, and passing over the Senior Officers in favor of Talented Officers.

      Dwight Eisenhower entered the war as a Lieutenant Colonel, if I remember correctly.

  9. I'm sure that, by nightfall, the Daesh supporters will find a story of a handful of Iraqi troops, in some remote village, that was overrun by a superior force of headcutters.

    But, it doesn't matter. The crazies have the same shot at final victory as the Iroquois, or the Apache.

    Some things just aren't to be.

    1. Same could be said about Hamas.

      They use an ak-47 and murder their own just as easily as they'd murder an American, an Israeli or for the grand prize a "Jewish American".

      But your point about how there is no future in being a "head cutter"? dead on.

      Do not dismiss the fact that the moslem brotherhood is a major "tree" and it's being cut down across the middle east.

    2. Hamas Calls for More Abductions

      “We strive for an abduction operation that would make a second Shalit possible,” said Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri in an interview with Palestinian media. “Over 1,000 of our Palestinian brothers who were incarcerated in the Zionist occupation’s prisons were released as part of that deal. Only through similar operations can we hope to facilitate the release of more prisoners.”

      His sentiment received backing from the senior Hamas political figure in Gaza, Ismail Haniya, although in a somewhat less pointed manner. “The Hamas leadership is debating ways to secure the release of prisoners from the Israeli occupation’s prisons,” he said. “We would welcome any action that would bring about the prisoners release. They symbolize the just Palestinian struggle.”

      A spokesman for Hamas’ military wing warned Israel that hostilities will resume. “The Zionist occupation has failed to destroy the Palestinian resistance. Our reaction will be blood for blood, destruction for destruction.”

      Time to be honest. Hamas needs to be decimated.

      Now that may not be YOUR priority but one finds it funny that somehow some group of Headcutters in Syria/Iraq driving in pickup trucks is YOUR priority.

    3. But no one is speaking of Hamas, but the Israeli.
      So who really gives a shit.

    4. No one but the American, ME.

      And I am someone.

      Now you? Are a self confessed, fictional avatar.

    5. Jack HawkinsTue Sep 30, 09:53:00 AM EDT
      But no one is speaking of Hamas, but the Israeli.
      So who really gives a shit.

      Speaking of WHO is an Israeli?

      I aint, but I may be someday. With subhuman, jew hating pricks like you destroying America? I am glad to be able to flee this nation if needed

  10. It has been reported that Iraqi Army members pay up to 50% of pay to their officers in purchasing the ability to stay home. This explains why Iraqi Army units are units only on paper; most are grossly undermanned at duty stations. Therefore, it can be said with fairness, I believe, that the Iraqi Army is corrupt from top to bottom and vice versa.

    There is no Iraqi Army in any meaningful sense of the term. Wellington once said of his army, "They are the scum of the earth." The critical difference, as that scum proved at Waterloo, that scum had the iron discipline to stand unmoved against shot, shell, and cavalry. They died by the hundreds in those squares but advanced at the end of the day, carrying the day and setting the history of the century in motion. Such scum does not exist in Iraq.

    The Kurds are brave fighters. They are, nevertheless, loosing more ground than they are retaking or gaining when the composite battlefield is studied. The Turks have moved tanks down to the Syrian border because IS is driving the Kurds before them. IS is slowly but surely advancing at the right points. Making thoughtful tactical withdrawals from tiny villages of no further use does not spell defeat; nor does it mean that the Iraqi Army advancing in the face of no opposition is victory. Without Western boots on the ground IS holds the land and everything on it. Allied aircraft can take tours from 35,000 feet but they dare not land. Not even the Kurds can govern what they cannot hold on the ground.

    1. What total fucking horseshit.

    2. The Kurds are "loosing" (sic) more ground than they are retaking, or gaining?

      That's nonsense.

    3. The Turks have driven tanks down to the border because they want to annex the Northern (for starters) part of Syria.

    4. The Israeli are braying, but reality is what it is.
      The Daesh are now losing ground, the Iraqi, which includes the Kurds of Iraq, are gaining ground.

      So much for the Daesh blitzkrieg, those days are gone, not to be seen again, in Iraq.
      It is upsetting to our Israeli contingent, because, as Ambassador Oren told us ...

      Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies

      Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

    5. "Making thoughtful tactical withdrawals from tiny villages of no further use"

      Translates to: Getting fucking killed. (and your surviving comrades bugging out so fast that they don't even take the bodies.)

    6. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are wildly punching.

      Are you aware that the last five Brit missions returned without firing a shot? No, you look it up; I already have.

      On Sunday, American aircraft bombed grain silos!

      I read the accounts of those Iraqi Army "victories" and saw no reports of body counts. You are making it up because you have taken the "victory from the air" bait -- hook, line, and sinker. Now, the Kurds did report a dozen or so IS dead on the Syrian front.

    7. The Brits aren't fully up to speed, yet. So?

      And, NO, the U.S. did Not bomb "grain silos."

      That is Al Nusra Front/Israeli bullshit.

      The U.S. bombed a vehicle staging area next to the grain silos. And, they have the videotape to prove it.

      You people are grasping at . . . . . . . hell, I don't know what you're grasping at; there's not even a "straw," there.

  11. Phil Spector wrote this song for his girlfriend Ronnie.

    Bryan Wilson was so "inspired" by Ronnie that he wrote this song for her.

    This all happened in a long lost world.

    1. Have you seen the current photos of Phil Spector ?

    2. Jack HawkinsTue Sep 30, 09:58:00 AM EDT
      Have you seen the current photos of Phil Spector ?

      You have a point? Do you compare favorably?

  12. By Juan Cole

    Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu delivered a speech at the UN to a half-empty hall in which he tried to exemplify the most logical fallacies in a short period of time.

    Netanyahu’s message is that all political Islam is equivalent. Thus, if ISIL is a danger to the west, then the Hamas movement in Gaza is as well. And both of them are equivalent to Iran.

    Hamas is a movement of political Islam that has often deployed violence, which it terms resistance to occupation and which Israel and the US see as terrorism. But the US State Department was quick to put distance between it and Netanyahu’s views, dissenting from his crazy quilt of equivalencies.

    Here are the top 5 differences between Hamas and ISIL:

    1. Hamas has foresworn attacks on the United States and other Western countries, presenting itself as a national liberation movement against Israeli military occupation (an occupation that has lasted since 1967 in Gaza). ISIL on the other hand has called on radicals to attack the US and Europe.

    2. Hamas has joined a national unity government with the PLO. Some Hamas legislators hold that this step automatically results in an implicit Hamas recognition of Israel, insofar as Hamas delegates will be bound by PLO rules of discourse, and the latter recognize Israel. In contrast, no high-profile member of ISIL has done anything but attempt to foment more violence and to break all political deals.

    3. Hamas has not concertedly attacked non-Muslims, and, in fact there has sometimes been good cooperation between it and the Eastern Orthodox church. In contrast, ISIL attempted to ethnically cleanse the Yazidis and has threatened Christians and other minorities.

    4. Hamas has concluded ceasefires with Israel, however imperfect on both sides. ISIL was kicked out of al-Qaeda for declining ever to make a truce even with its own allies.

    5. Hamas has a civilian wing that ran for elective office in 2006 and won the Palestine elections. That civilian wing represented itself as liberal and more secular, if the Center cannot place this man, he will end up suntanning himself near the AmTrack station. ISIL has no civil wing and is profoundly opposed to holding elections by party.

    Hamas is a horrible fundamentalist organization (created in part by Israeli conniving and by the horrible conditions under which Palestinians in Gaza are made to live by the Israeli government), but it isn’t ISIL. And neither is like Iran, which is a Shiite state (Hamas and ISIL are hard line Sunni fundamentalists).

    Netanyahu comes close to racism in painting all Muslims with an extremist brush that is for him invarying. His own Likud movement was perfectly willing to turn to terrorism when it did not get its way, but not all Zionists or all Israelis would have approved. Netanyahu is doing propaganda and so cannot afford insightful oppositions.

    1. Exactly right.

      The Zionist have a long history of perfidy.

      Zionists murder civilians, Jewish refugees in a False Flag operation

      On Nov. 25, 1940, a boat carrying Jewish refugees from Nazi Europe, the “Patra,” exploded and sank off the coast of Palestine killing 252 people.

      The Zionist “Haganah” claimed the passengers committed suicide to protest British refusal to let them land.
      Years later, it admitted that rather than let the passengers go to Mauritius, it blew up the vessel for its propaganda value.

      “Sometimes it is necessary to sacrifice the few in order to save the many,”
      Moshe Sharett, a former Israeli Prime Minister said at memorial service in 1958.


  13. Rufus IITue Sep 30, 09:51:00 AM EDT
    What total fucking horseshit.

    ...handled with your usual aplomb... When you, personally, augur "horseshit", do you smell it, taste it, and/or just play with it?

    1. In the case of Pro-Headcutter Propaganda, the smell is usually noticed first.

    2. Everything I linked came from reputable sources. I notice you have linked to nothing. Is there something in the Mississippi water that gives you special psychic gifts?

    3. The fuck I didn't. You'd better go back and look again.

  14. Netanyahu wants US soldiers to keep the region destabilized so that he can continue the fraudulent never-ending peace process and continue the colonization of Jewish enclaves into Palestinian territory.

  15. That was the original Neocon plan referred to and explained by Wesley Clark, a video of which I have posted at least three times.

  16. Here is a reasonable synopsis of Bibi's and Abbas's UN speeches:

    "Netanyahu warns that IS, Hamas two sides of same coin.

    Patrick Martin
    The Globe and Mail
    Published Monday, Sep. 29 2014, 1:12 PM EDT

    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivered a powerful speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Monday – one of the best speeches he’s ever given. It may not impress people who don’t already agree with him, but its central argument will be used by supporters of Israel to pressure lawmakers in many Western countries.

    Mr. Netanyahu, now in his ninth year at Israel’s helm, argued that the world was facing one enormous threat – the menace of militant Islam – which is spreading like a cancer.

    The fight against militant Islam is indivisible,” he said. “That’s why Israel’s fight against Hamas is not just our fight. It’s your fight,” he told the international community.

    The Islamic State and Hamas, Mr. Netanyahu insisted, are “branches of the same poisonous tree.”

    So, too, is Iran, the Israeli added, and its potential nuclear arsenal is “the gravest risk of all.”

    “It’s one thing to confront militant Islamists on pickup trucks, armed with Kalashnikov rifles,” he said. “It’s another thing to confront militant Islamists armed with weapons of mass destruction.”

    The Islamic State, also known as ISIL or ISIS, must be defeated, Mr. Netanyahu acknowledged. “But to defeat ISIS and leave Iran as a threshold nuclear power is to win the battle and lose the war.”

    It was a speech that mirrored one given by Mahmoud Abbas from the same podium on Friday. That speech was one of the most scathing attacks on Israel the Palestinian leader has ever given, and one of his most effective.

    “In this year, proclaimed by the United Nations General Assembly as the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People,” Mr. Abbas began, “Israel has chosen to make it a year of a new war of genocide perpetrated against the Palestinian people.” Use of the g-word shocked Israelis, and it got their attention.

    For 50 days this past summer, “a series of absolute war crimes was carried out before the eyes and ears of the entire world,” Mr. Abbas said, alluding to Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza and its toll of civilian casualties.

    It is inconceivable, he said, that some people witnessed these things and justified them as simply “Israel’s right to self-defence, without regard for the fate of the thousands of victims.”

    Doing so, he pointed out, ignores the “simple fact … that the life of a Palestinian is as precious as the life of any other human being.”

    In a manner reminiscent of Mr. Netanyahu’s speaking style, the Palestinian president announced: “In the name of Palestine and its people, I affirm here today: We will not forget and we will not forgive, and we will not allow war criminals to escape punishment.”

    In reply to those charges, Mr. Netanyahu declared that Israel did everything possible to minimize civilian casualties in Gaza, but that Hamas hid its deadly rockets among civilians, even amidst children, and that some civilian deaths were unavoidable.

    1. He produced a large photograph, shot by French television, and noted two large cylinders that he said were Hamas rocket launchers, along with three kids at play.

      “That’s the war crime,” he told Mr. Abbas.

      Recalling the effectiveness of Israel’s “Iron Dome” anti-missile system, Mr. Netanyahu emphasized what he called the difference between the two warring sides: “Israel was using its missiles to protect its children; Hamas was using its children to protect its missiles.”

      Putting the events of the summer behind him, the Israeli leader said there now is an opportunity for peace. He called on the broader Arab world, which shares with Israel its concern over militant Islam, to help lead the way to peace with the Palestinians.

      Ironically, Mr. Abbas also referenced the broader Arab world in his call for reaching a peace agreement with Israel. He noted that in a 2002 peace initiative, the Arab League said it was essential that Israel set a definite deadline for ending its occupation of all lands captured in the 1967 Six-Day War.

      Such a “specific time frame,” Mr. Abbas insisted, must be established if there ever is to be an agreement.

      In his remarks Monday, Mr. Netanyahu rejected the idea that Israel is occupying any land. “The people of Israel are not occupiers in the Land of Israel,” he said, referring to all the land from the Mediterranean to the Jordan River.

      That being said, he acknowledged that any peace agreement “will obviously necessitate a territorial compromise.” But such a compromise can never come at the expense of security, he insisted. By this, the Israeli means that any Palestinian state must be demilitarized and permit Israeli forces on its frontiers.

      Chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said there’s a word to describe such an arrangement. He told an Israeli interviewer Monday that the Netanyahu government “does not believe in a two-state solution.” It believes, he said, “in one state, two systems. The translation of this is apartheid.”"


    2. Canada should give land to resettle the Palestinians.

      After all PEACE is what is at stake.

      Give the palestinians all the land they want in Canada. After Ash is allowed to live there, why not Palestinians?

    3. Israel should allow Hamas to take over the west bank for a while.

      Then after Abbas is dragged thru the streets, tied to a chain, on the back of a motorcycle by Hamas. After Hamas executes several hundred Fatah members, destroys all internet cafes and loots the banks, they will then attack Israel. Then Israel will have the legal right to drive them into the sea.

  17. Let's put it this way: An "Army" that is attempting to bury its vehicles, but not its soldiers, is finished.

    1. ...with the vehicles, to be sure... That was never in question. IS is still very much an army. Good grief, its command is coordinating two campaigns simultaneously and doing rather well. The Syrian Kurds are in retreat, having sent their wives and children ahead into Turkey. Let's put it this way: A country which vacates itself is finished.

    2. A small, out of the way town, in the extreme North of Syria, a town of absolutely No strategic, or tactical value is under siege. Not overrun; just under siege. And, based on that, you would make the argument that the "brilliant" army of headcutters is "driving all before it?"

      Give me a break.

    3. Yes, of little interest is the region that the Turks have moved armor to the border.

    4. The actions of the Turks make it obvious that they want Kobane to fall, thereby giving them an excuse to go in and "rescue" it - thus gaining a foothold in Syria.

    5. Holy Cow! You know that the Turks are going to war with Syria? When?

  18. According to some here, the the Jews are responsible for the behavior of the Libyans, the Syrians, the Egyptians, the Iraqis and also Hamas etc. along with the behavior of the US Congress and the President and the banks world wide.

    I wonder what dark humor Mark Twain, who had great respect for the abilities of the Jews, would make of these assertions, which are, frankly, crazy as hell. I don't think he would go quite that far. But he is dead so who knows?

    1. ... but Nietzsche did ... He's also dead.

  19. This should be good for a couple threads. :-))

    Iraqi scholar: Jews persuaded Bush to invade Iraq in 2003 because of Torah prophecy

    1. Well hell, allen, it's obvious as hell.

      Any non thinking mind can see it.

      The Jews persuaded Saddam to invade Kuwait......

    2. No, it was actually the Bush I administration that did that.

  20. Those that are tired of the propaganda, and enjoy thinking for themselves, might want to refer to one of those maps that show where we have been bombing in Syria.

    Primarily, we have been bombing the two "Rat Lines" - the routes from Syria into Iraq.

    1. We are bombing. Nevertheless, the Kurds are being driven out of their Syrian territory.

    2. Because there is no "Active Partner" amongst the Kurds in Syria.
      The US will not coordinate with Assad or his military, or the Kurds allied with him.

  21. I gave this link at the bottom of the summation of the day's action, above. But, here it is again, for those that have trouble getting through multiple sentences:


    1. Thanks! That made my point.

      " Turkey, the neighbour with the biggest military, has so far held back from joining the U.S.-led coalition, despite an advance in the past 10 days by Islamic State fighters against Kurds near the frontier that has caused the fastest refugee exodus of the three-year civil war.

      The fighters have laid siege to Kobani, a Kurdish city on Syria's border with Turkey."

    2. The headcutters are laying siege to Kobane, and many of the citizens are getting out of town. So?

      One: In all honesty, no one, other than the good citizens of Kobane, really cares what happens in that area (the press has kind of shamed centcom into dropping a couple of bombs in the vicinity,) and

      Two: "laying siege" is not the same as "taking."

      Three: This is an isolated area, far away from any protection, by say, the Peshmerga. They are only defended by a hobbled-together collection of local shopkeepers, and students.

      And, yet, they are fighting off the dreaded crazynauts with their tanks, and artillery.

      What a phony-baloney strawman you've weaved.

    3. I never used the word "Kobane"; I spoke of territory. Try again.

      ... Meanwhile, IS remains in Fallujah.

    4. To be clear, your link used "Kobane."

    5. "allenTue Sep 30, 10:47:00 AM EDT
      We are bombing. Nevertheless, the Kurds are being driven out of their Syrian territory."

      See: "territory" above.

  22. Here's Der Spiegel.


    "For years, Ankara has been tolerating the rise of the extremist Islamic State. But now that the jihadists are conquering regions just across the border in northern Syria, concern is growing that Islamist terror could threaten Turkey too."

  23. Just for Quirk -


    Here is the racist author's website:


    1. You managed to get your little dollop of racism in, for the day. congratulations.

    2. Racism is exactly what it is not.

      It is not a racist blog and I am not a racist.

      But I saw it and thought of Quirk.

      So I put it up.

    3. Any blog you contribute to, Robert Peterson, garners its share of racist remarks, just from your participation.

    4. .

      Can't you read, rat?

      The post was 'Just for Quirk'.


    5. Rat remains a figment of your imagination, QuirkTue Sep 30, 07:45:00 PM EDT

      Then he should send you and E-mail

  24. I am starting to think the Colorado Senate seat may go Republican. It is about dead even now.

    I notice that in the Colorado Governor's race, for instance, the Republican is ahead by a couple of points.

  25. ... some more of my pro-IS propaganda ... Well, the BBC did help.

    Why UK warplanes are struggling to find targets in Iraq

    "RAF Tornados have now conducted at least five missions over Iraq, and returned five times with their bombs intact...

    ... Fifth, Britain's coverage will be relatively limited, given that we have only devoted six Tornado jets to the mission - the same number as Belgium, and fewer than Denmark or Australia."

    1. Short answer: Well, we (the Brits) are, really, not very good at this.

      Unsaid: The Yanks are managing to make what is, in reality, quite difficult look easy.

    2. Yes, it was unsaid and you should have left it that way. Bombing grain silos and killing innocent civilians, like those in Gaza, is nothing to write home to mom about.

    3. No one bombed a "grain silo."

    4. Do you think that you wouldn't be able to find a picture of that destroyed grain silo if it existed?

    5. .

      It doesn't exist. It was blowed up.



  26. This one says it all about those freedom loving Palis. As the matter of law, they will be executed if apprehended.

    Fatah official: Palestinians who sold homes to Jews in east Jerusalem should die

    1. Time to allow the "palestinians" to have freedom.

      Israel should withdrawal to a border they wish and allow the animals in the zoo to reign.

      Yes I said animals in the zoo….

      Time to not interfere with Palestinians on Palestinian violence.

      Nor Sunni and Shiite violence.

  27. http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/09/28/israel-muslim-imam-says-jerusalem-belongs-to-the-jews/
    Israel Muslim Imam Says Jerusalem Belongs to the Jews!

  28. It's been real. Now, off to VA Vascular to see if my right leg (the good one) can be salvaged. I don't think I'll miss anything, but I'll check with Bob later.

  29. Bombing grain silos usually really really pisses me off, I will say that much.

  30. I had a friend that died recently, somewhat older than I, who was in Korea guarding grain silos. When he got there he found the night technique was to put "Himmler" a fierce German Shepard in the grain silo. Once in a while a starving Korean would sneak into the bin at night.

    The count when he arrived was seven or eight Koreans killed in the silo over the months by "Himmler".

    The orders were every kernel of this grain must go to Seoul, no exceptions.


  31. (Reuters) - Iraqi Kurdish troops drove Islamic State fighters from a strategic border crossing with Syria on Tuesday and won the support of members of a major Sunni tribe, in one of the biggest successes since U.S. forces began bombing the Islamists.

    The victory, which could make it harder for militants to operate on both sides of the frontier, was also achieved with help from Kurds from the Syrian side of the frontier, a new sign of cooperation across the border.

    Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga fighters took control of the Rabia border crossing in a battle that began before dawn, an Iraqi Kurdish political source said.

    "It's the most important strategic point for crossing,"

    the source said.

    The participation of Sunni tribal fighters in the battle against Islamic State could prove as important a development as the advance itself.

    Members of the influential Shammar tribe, one of the largest in northwestern Iraq, joined the Kurds in the fighting, a tribal figure said.

    "Rabia is completely liberated. All of the Shammar are with the Peshmerga and there is full cooperation between us," Abdullah Yawar, a leading member of the tribe, told Reuters.

    He said the cooperation was the result of an agreement with the president of Iraq's Kurdish region after three months of negotiation to join forces against the "common enemy".

    Gaining support from Sunni tribes, many of which either supported or acquiesced in Islamic State's June advance, would be a crucial objective for the Iraqi government and its regional and Western allies in the fight against the insurgents.


    Winning over Sunni tribes was a central part of the strategy that helped the U.S. military defeat a precursor of Islamic State during the "surge" campaign of 2006-2007. Washington hopes the new Iraqi government can repeat it.

    Rabia controls the main highway linking Syria to Mosul, the biggest city in northern Iraq, which Islamic State fighters captured in June at the start of a lightning advance through Iraq's Sunni Muslim north that jolted the Middle East.

    Twelve Islamic State fighters' bodies lay on the border at the crossing after the battle, said Hemin Hawrami, head of the foreign relations department of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, one of the main Iraqi Kurdish parties, on . . . . . .

    <a href="Sunnis in the Fight</a>

    1. Interesting.

      When Saddam was in power I would doubt the Shammar Tribe bitched much about the gassing of the Kurds.

  32. And, the Brits have found the range.

    London (AFP) - British fighter jets on Tuesday bombed an artillery post and an armed truck used by the Islamic State group in Iraq in the Royal Air Force's first strikes in the US-led air campaign.

    The defence ministry said two Tornado jets hit the post with a Brimstone missile used against tanks and the vehicle with a 500-pound (230 kilogramme) Paveway IV laser-guided bomb.

    "Both assessed successful," read one of the tweets.

    Another said: "Tornado jets have carried out first air strikes in support of democratic Iraqi government."

    It did not say when or where the strikes were carried out but explained they had aided Kurdish troops in the area.

    "I can confirm that the RAF were in action today in support of the Iraqi government in northwest Iraq," Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said.

    Fallon said the strikes were carried out by two jets from an RAF base in Cyprus.

    "They identified and attacked a heavy weapon position that was endangering Kurdish forces and they subsequently attacked an ISIL armed pickup truck in the same area," he said, using an alternative name for the Islamic . . . . . .

    Tornado time

    1. It's a big battlefield, and the Daesh will win a little victory, here and there; but, make no mistake, they be "daid men walkin'."

    2. If Doug were here he would says "Tornaders".

    3. Fatah Official: “There Is No Difference between Hamas and ISIS”


      The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) recently reported that Fatah Central Committee member Tawfiq Tirawi stressed in a TV interview on Al Awda TV that Hamas is no better than ISIS.

      The interviewer starts out by declaring that it was reported during Operation Protective Edge that Hamas shot Fatah members in the legs in Gaza. According to Abu Jihad, a Fatah member from Gaza, “First of all, in the middle of the war, I was told that I was under house arrest – I was forbidden to leave home – for reasons unknown to me. I went out, but stayed close to home. I didn’t go far away. All of a sudden, a car with three armed men stopped. They got out and told us to stay where we were. They asked me my name, and I told them, and then all three of them opened fire at me.”

      “I do not believe that we can keep quiet about what was done to our people in Gaza,” Tawfiq Tirawi emphasized. “National unity is not just an agreement that you sign. That agreement was a mistake, a mistake, a mistake. It was dictated from above – a bullshit agreement with no details and no mechanism for implementation. They went and signed a bullshit agreement with no details. What government would we have, and who would lead it? These issues were not properly determined in the agreement, so we cannot call this national unity.”

      “What is happening in Gaza stems from the weakness of Fatah, its leadership, and its Central Committee,” he stressed. “If we want to wage war, we must be united and prepared. How can we possibly be prepared, when Fatah members in Gaza are forbidden to bear arms and fight?”

      “Some of the people executed by Hamas were officers in the security agencies,” Tirawi noted. “Hamas says that they were spies. Did they place them on trial? Did they interrogate them? Where are their confessions? Or maybe they brought people who had interrogated Hamas members in the past, and executed them now. What justification can there be for this? According to what law did they execute these people?”

      “What is the difference between Hamas and Al-Zarqawi, not to mention ISIS,” he pondered. “I don’t want to mention ISIS, which beheads people. What is the difference between beheading people and executing them by gunfire? Aren’t they both killers, regardless of the execution method, which we all denounce? So why must the Fatah members live this nightmare in Gaza? This nightmare must be stopped.”

    4. Doug has not been back since he got the link ...

      Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies

      Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

      Reality may have caused some disillusion.

    5. Doug keeps seeing you here, desert rat. You and swamp rat have driven him away.

    6. desert rat remains a figment of Bob's impaired brainTue Sep 30, 04:52:00 PM EDT


    7. Well, I ain't done nothin' to hurt that dear boy.

    8. Assad has still murdered over 200,000 men, women and children. Wounded 1.2 MILLION and truly made homeless 11 MILLION

      ISIS is JV....

  33. Also, the Belgian Parliament, today, gave its approval for the Government to send a contingent of fighter planes to Iraq.

  34. Attention Hamas sympathizers:

    AnonymousTue Sep 30, 03:41:00 PM EDT

    Fatah Official: “There Is No Difference between Hamas and ISIS”


    Thank you, anon.

    1. I'll have to ask The Logician, but can it be said that means:

      Hamas = ISIS ?

    2. No, Robert Peterson, it means that you accept the word of a Hamas member, a known terrorist.

      You accept his legitimacy.

      Shame on you, Robert Peterson, for elevating a terrorist with such trust.

  35. September 30, 2014 4:00 AM
    Obama Betrays the Kurds

    The Kurds are fighting bravely, but they need arms, and they need air support.

    By Robert Zubrin


    >>So now, to paraphrase the president, “Mothers, sisters, daughters will be subjected to rape as a weapon of war. Innocent children will be gunned down. Bodies will be dumped in mass graves. Religious minorities will be starved to death. In the most horrific crimes imaginable, innocent human beings will be beheaded, with videos of the atrocity distributed to shock the conscience of the world.”

    Surely we can do better.<<

    1. So we are going to try to 'nation' build in the Sunnni area once again, when there is a perfectly good coherent nation right to the north just waiting for some aid.

      Wunnerful, wunnerful, wunnerful

    2. They are in Syria, Robert Peterson and to support them, we would have to piss on Israel. The Israeli have made their preferences known and the Conga Line in the US is dancing to their tune.

      Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies

      Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

      Unless Mr Obama is ready to disengage from the Israeli and theConga Line, he cannot provide close air support to the Kurds in Syria. They are cannot be "Active Partners", they are allied with Assad.
      Simple as that.

    3. You should ask yourself, Robert Peterson, if Assad is as evil as the Israeli claim, why are the Kurds allied with him, against their Sunni brethren?

    4. simple.

      the enemy of my emery is my friend, for now.

      you are a fucking moron.

    5. So,"O"rdure comes close to the truth of it.
      It is not that Assad is evil, it is that he is allied with Iran and not the head chopping Saudi Arabians.

      Now in all the Wikipedia entries about the Kurds, they are referred to as an Iranian people.
      So that explains the Israeli position of preferring Daesh over the Kurds and Alawites.

      Comical, he is beginning to, finally, speak some truth.

    6. "O"rdure and the Israeli would support the devil, as long as he was against the Iranians.

      Oh, wait, there are more than a few folks who already say the do. Jewish folks, at that.

    7. And who was it that save Irbil from the Daesh, oh yeah, that was the Iranians.

      No wonder the Israeli have their panties in a wad.
      Their proxy force of Sunni head choppers has run into some competent opposition.
      70 Iranians, stopped the Israeli proxy force, the Daesh, cold.

      With a little help from the United States, some Hellfire equipped Predator drones and a few F18s.
      A taste of things to come, it has left a bitter taste in Bibi's mouth.

    8. But, you see, Robert Peterson, in Irbil Mr Obama had the cover of running all the coordination through the Iraqis, the Kurds of Irbil being Iraqis, Irbil being in Iraq. In Kobane, those Kurds are not as 'lucky', they are in Syria.

      And we all know how the Israeli and the Conga Line feel about Syria.

      Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies
      Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.


  36. First diagnosis in USA...
    News conference will be held at 4:30 PM CT...

    EBOLA HITS DALLAS.........................

    What ya gonna do desert rat if your ass can only be saved by a JEWISH vaccine?

    eh ?

    1. if your miserable ass.....

      sorry for the error there

    2. Why, Robert Peterson, the desert rat is a fictional character, one that is pretty much retired.
      Doubt if he could get sick.

      But if he did, he would use the vaccine that was developed in the US.
      Whether the scientist was Jewish, or not, would not matter.

      As I know that the desert rat has no disdain for Jews, has even fucked a few.
      It is Israeli and Zionists that he disdains.
      The two groups cannot be conflated.

    3. There's a "Jewish Vaccine?"

      Ain't that interestin'.

      Lessee, the "flu vaccine" protects you from the flu,

      And the Polio Vaccine protects you from polio;

      Just ezzackly how does that "Jewish Vaccine" work?

    4. "As I know that the desert rat has no disdain for Jews, has even fucked a few.
      It is Israeli and Zionists that he disdains.
      The two groups cannot be conflated."

      Class act…. Your parents must be so proud.

  37. Replies
    1. You ain't Doug. You ain't called me Commie, yet.

    2. Doug can sign-in, anyway.
      He has the competency and capabilities that Hedaho Bob lacks.

  38. WASHINGTON (AP) — A congressional review panel says there is substantial reason to believe that veteran Wisconsin Rep. Tom Petri violated House rules by acting on behalf of two companies in which he owned significant amounts of stock.

    The independent Office of Congressional Ethics says Petri advocated for Oshkosh Corp. and the Manitowoc Co. despite owning at least $250,000 worth of Oshkosh stock and at least $100,000 worth of stock in Manitowoc. Both companies are based in Wisconsin.

  39. Rufus IITue Sep 30, 12:43:00 PM EDT
    No one bombed a "grain silo."

    I would love to play poker against you, but I doubt you could afford my stakes. You are a liar.

    "It was not immediately clear why the silos were targeted."

    "Mr Hammond's explanation comes less than a day after two civilian workers were killed during a U.S. airstrike in ISIS-held territory in Syria, when the grain silo in which they worked is believed to have been mistaken for a jihadist base. "

    "U.S. jets and drones, along with Arab-allied planes, hit a staging area near a Syrian grain storage site, officials said Monday, one of 11 targets hit as part of the effort to rollback Islamic State battlefield victories.

    The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported civilian casualties in the attack on the grain silo near the town of Manbij."

    CENTCOM added that the grain silo it struck was in the hands of ISIL, the violent Al-Qaeda splinter group that swept through Iraq and Syria this summer.

    “The storage facility was being used by ISIL as a logistics hub and vehicle staging facility,” CENTCOM said.

    However, the bombing in Manbij appeared to have killed only civilians, not fighters, said Rami Abdulrahman, who runs the Observatory, which gathers information from sources in Syria.

    "These were the workers at the silos. They provide food for the people," he said. He could not give a number of casualties and it was not immediately possible to verify the information.

  40. ...for the site's other liar, this from the Zionist lovin' NYT...

    New York Times op-ed: Wipe Israel off the map

    Hey, did you ever remember what unit you served with in Central America?

    1. Never forgot it, allen.
      You just are not on the "Need to Know" list.

      The subject of the blog, is not me, much as that breaks your heart.

    2. Now if you wish to claim that since you are frozen out of the data stream, that I never was in Central America...
      I'm good to go, with that.

      Your opinion, well, it just doesn't matter.

    3. Jack HawkinsTue Sep 30, 07:19:00 PM EDT
      Never forgot it, allen.
      You just are not on the "Need to Know" list.

      Right... :-))

    4. Why you can even claim that I was never in the US military, never did nothin'.
      Well, it don't mean nothin'.

      Because, as I said, you just don't matter.
      I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on you, if you were on fire.

  41. You were asking about the Turks, allen.
    Now that is a subject that I am willing to discuss, here at the Elephant Bar.

    Turkey moves to use force in Syria and Iraq

    SURUC, Turkey — Turkey is moving to reverse its non-intervention stance and approve the use of force in Syria and Iraq to fight radical Islamic State militants who have advanced against cities along the Syrian-Turkish border.

    A proposed resolution that would authorize the army to fight the extremists is all but certain to win formal approval from the parliament Thursday. It would allow the U.S.-led coalition conducting airstrikes against the militants to use Turkish air bases, a significant help to the coalition, given Turkey's proximity to the fighting.

    "We are a determined government," Turkey's deputy prime minister, Bulent Arinc, was quoted as saying Tuesday in the Hurriyet Daily News. "We perfectly know what's going on inside and outside Turkey."

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan "has been on the fence about intervening," said James Phillips, an analyst at Heritage Foundation. "It looks like he is jumping off the fence."

    The first step in an incremental escalation.

  42. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11129512/Isil-fighters-advance-to-within-six-miles-of-Baghdad.html
    Isil fighters advance to within six miles of Baghdad

    "The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) made fresh advances in both Syria and Iraq on Monday, in defiance of the escalating United States-led bombing campaign against the jihadist group."

    1. Yesterday you reported the Daesh were within a mile, of Baghdad, looks like they've been "Pushed Back", at least according to your sources.

    2. Figure it out. The sources were the matter of public record.

  43. IS is attacking Baghdad.

    Shiites in a Battered Neighborhood of Baghdad Fault One of Their Own

    "BAGHDAD — Families venture out only by day and as little as possible. Shopkeepers watch the curbs more than their stores, to prevent anyone from parking. The police have erected checkpoints on the avenues and closed the side streets, but more bombs keep coming.

    In the three months since the Sunni extremists of the group known as Islamic State surged to within a short drive of Baghdad, car bombs and explosions have become a near-daily fact of life in Karada, one the busiest Shiite neighborhoods in the city. Hundreds of people have died while shopping or working; seemingly everyone has lost a friend or relative."

    1. Bombings in Iraq, Baghdad, have been endemic since ... what ... 2003.

    2. al--Qeada in Iraq is the Daesh.

      They are not 'new', just retreads with Zionist marketing.

    3. That you are peddling that the Daesh are not a-Qeada, just puts you in the proper perspective.
      You are a Zionist shill.

  44. Here is an interesting article -




    09/29/2014 22:16

    Why is Adolf Hitler popular in India?

    It’s hard to miss Mein Kampf on the shelves of India’s bookstores.


    The figure of Hitler seems to fascinate many, but there is zero anti-Semitism in Inida.

    1. When were you there, Robert Peterson?
      I don't recall you ever mentioning that trip, in fact I recall it being said that Hawaii was the extent of your 'foreign travels'

  45. But those Turks, their rhetoric does not always match their actions.

    Kurds Outraged as Turkey Closes Border to Volunteers for Kobane Fight

    ANKARA, Turkey – Kurdish activists expressed outrage as the Turkish military began preventing any young person from crossing the border to fight Islamic militants in Syria, where Kurdish forces have been fighting to save the city of Kobane.

    Turkish troops were out in force in Mursitpinar, on the Turkish-Syrian border that abuts Kobane.

    "Kobane’s fall means Kurdistan’s fall,” said Ferhat Encu, a 29-year-old Turkish-Kurd from Sirnak.

    ”We can’t sit here and just watch. I’m trying to get into Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan), but the Turks have blocked the border,” said Encu

    1. .

      Who gives a shit? Kobane is just a small, out of the way town, in the extreme North of Syria, a town of absolutely No strategic, or tactical value.

      Of course the 400,000 people who call it home might disagree. And while the allies may only be dropping a few bombs around there because they were embarrassed into it by a frantic media, it might be possible that they also realize that were IS to take Kobane, they would be completing the line of control that runs from their headquarters in Raqqa through Aleppo and north through Kobane to the Turkish border, the southern flank of NATO. But Kobane still has no strategic or tactical value to IS. Well, except maybe as an ingress point for new recruits or supplies or an egress point for black market goods or for militants bent on terror attacks in Turkey. Still the governing leadership of the Syrian Kurds has designated the defense of Kobane a priority. Yet, our good ally Turkey doesn't seem concerned enough to worry about Kobane, In fact, they are preventing Kurdish reinforcement from arriving there through Turkey. Of course, that may be because they don't like the idea of an independent Kurdish state on the doorstep.

      But Kobane smobane. Who gives a shit? Not when IS has been burying trucks and are clearly on the run.

      Move along folks, nothing to see here.


  46. While the only fella to penetrate the security screen at the White House was not an Islamic Radical, but one of those Army veterans that DHS was most concerned with, as being the primary security threat in the US.

    I do recall how that idea was met with disdain by many, here. But ... it seems like the government well knew who are the most dangerous. An Army trained sniper got over the fence and into the "Green Room", somewhere inside the President's residence.

    That McVeigh fella, he was a veteran, too. As was his compadre, Terry Lynn Nichols

    A Texas man who climbed a fence, eluded Secret Service and entered the White House was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury for entering a restricted building, carrying a deadly weapon and unlawfully possessing ammunition.

    1. Le's make a correction, it was the "East Room", not the "Green Room".

    2. Under questioning by Issa, Pierson acknowledged that the intruder "knocked back" an officer who was standing at the White House doorway, made it into the hallway and "stepped momentarily into the East Room."

      She said the intruder was handcuffed just outside a nearby room called the Green Room. (The Washington Post reported Tuesday that the individual who finally tackled the intruder was an off-duty agent who happened to be in the house and was leaving for the night.)


    3. ...talking about rooms ...


      "A police spokeswoman said clashes flared later when one Palestinian man tried to get into one of the buildings.

      She said the properties belonged to settlers, who had presented documents proving they had purchased them."

      I feel sorry for the previous owners; they will be killed by Fatah and/or Hamas.

    4. International Business Times
      Iraq war vet Omar Gonzalez made it farther into White House than was ... It has since emerged Gonzalez, a former army sniper, ran the 80-foot ...

    5. Those Palestinians, they may just use the same "Property Laws" as the Israeli.

      The Israeli government has, to a large extent, continued the Ottoman legal system in regard to land ownership. 

      Thus, today the vast proportion of land within the State of Israel (roughly 93%) is owned and managed either by the Israel Lands Administration (ILA) or the JNF.  This figure includes much of such extensive regions as the Negev and the Judean Wilderness (near the Dead Sea), which are sparsely populated. 

      Jewish settlements in the State of Israel usually are located on lands that are owned by the ILA or the JNF and that have been consigned to each settlement through long-term leases. 

      Less than 7% of the land in the State of Israel is privately owned.


      Betcha those Palestinians do follow the Ottoman Legal Code, and don't acknowledge the property rights of those 'owners'.
      The Israeli certainly don't, unless it suits them.

      They can do that, because it's their 'holy book', the Babylonian Talmud.

  47. Rat is a dumb shitTue Sep 30, 07:59:00 PM EDT

    What a dumb shit that desert rat must be, thinking Hawaii is a foreign travel for an American citizen.

    1. Rat is a dumb shitTue Sep 30, 08:00:00 PM EDT

      When WERE you put on the No Fly List, rat?

    2. That's what Bob told us it was, as I recall.
      Now he could come deny it, but you don't know what I have in the inventory of quotes, do you ho?

    3. Now, Bob may have been using the word "foreign" in this context, "O"rdure, since he did get a degree in English Lit ...

      strange and unfamiliar.
      "I suppose this all feels pretty foreign to you"
      synonyms: unfamiliar, unknown, unheard of, strange, alien; novel, new

      Back to ESL class with you, "O"rdure.

    4. Because to a farm boy from Moscow, Idaho, we can assume that Hawaii would be ...
      unfamiliar, unknown, strange, alien; novel and new

      Expand your vocabulary, "O"rdure.

      The question is,' said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things."
      Lewis Carroll

  48. Rat is a dumb shitTue Sep 30, 09:26:00 PM EDT

    You have avoided the question.

    When were you put on the No Fly List?

    1. Your Rat is a fiction, "O"rdure.Tue Sep 30, 09:38:00 PM EDT

      He's not, he just does not use mass transit.
      Has his own plane ...

      A low-time Pressurized Skymaster that is just out of a fresh annual inspection, and is ready to go.
      Low-time rear engine and propellers, mid-time factory remanufactured front engine, American intercoolers, and tons of STC’s and mods including the RT Aerospace main gear door removal mod, Horton STOL kit with rear vortex generators, STEC-65 autopilot, IFR GPS, VFR GPS #2, King digital nav-coms, stormscope, slaved HSI, custom metal instrument panel with emergency backup battery for panel lighting, Shadin digital fuel flow, JPI 760 twin engine analyzer, GAMI injectors, Woodward prop snycrophaser, Precise Flight taxi & landing light controller, co-pilot’s artificial horizon, electric cabin door seals, and more!

      The Airframe has 3,174 hours total time since new

      Engine Specs:
      Front Engine: 690 hours on Continental Factory Reman Engine (Jan 2005)
      150 hours on Overhauled Turbocharger from Aircraft Accessories of Oklahoma
      Continental engine model # TSIO-360-CB(5) / Serial # 824799-R
      Most recent compressions taken at July 2014 annual inspection: 72, 78, 74, 70, 80, & 60.

      Rear Engine: 196 hours since Major Overhaul (firewall forward) by Performance Engines, Inc. CRS # P6ER393N (July 2011)
      150 hours on Overhauled Turbocharger from Aircraft Accessories of Oklahoma
      Installed w/ overhauled mags, starter, alternator, oil cooler, fuel pump & controller & divider, turbo, wastegate, & turbo controller
      Continental engine model # TSIO-360-CB(6) / Serial # 236279-R

      Most recent compressions taken at July 2014 annual inspection.

      He got himself a pretty nice ride.

  49. It seems, on reflection, that the biggest news of the day was the Sunni Tribe joining up with the Kurds.

    It's a shame that those assholes in Baghdad can't find a reconciliation with the Anbar Sunnis.

  50. http://www.businessinsider.com/kobani-could-fall-leading-to-a-massacre-2014-9 13:36, 30 Sep 2014
    A Major Syrian Kurdish City Is About To Fall To ISIS — And A Massacre Could Follow

    "We are asking everybody who can help us to provide weapons to the people fighting against tanks and artillery, but nobody is doing anything. There will be many who are martyred," he told Reuters during a diplomatic mission to Europe.

    "We have sent messages to the Europeans and the United States, but I think there are obstacles... Turkey and other countries are preventing this because they don't want the Kurds to be able to defend themselves."

    1. Yep, if those Kurds were not in Syria ...
      The Israeli desire to have them all under the thumb of al-Qeada would not be so great.

      That the Israeli influence on the US is so great, a real shame.

      But the Israeli went public with their desires, and President Obama is not ready to buck his financial backers.

      Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies

      Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

    2. Figure you'd be celebrating your proxy's success, allen.

      I mean, even Bibi has been to see the Daesh wounded that the Israeli are harboring.

      Here are some pictures of Bibi giving solace to Dawsh terrorists in an Israeli hospital


    3. Here are some pictures of Bibi giving solace to Daesh terrorists in an Israeli hospital

  51. The U.S.-led military coalition also carried out fresh air strikes in northern Syria to support a besieged ethnic Kurdish town on the Syrian-Turkish border.

    The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the strikes hit IS fighters to the east and west of Kobani.

    Another activist group, the Local Coordination Committees, also reported the air strikes hit IS targets outside of the town.

    The Syrian Observatory group said fighting around Kobani on September 29 had killed 57 fighters on both sides.

    Kobani -- a predominantly Kurdish town where Turkomans, Arabs, and ethnic Armenians also live -- has been besieged by IS militants since mid-September.

    It has been a frontline battle zone between Kurdish fighters and IS militants since mid-2013.

    Well, it looks like we've decided to get a bit more active up there.

    1. I read somewhere, today, that the Daesh lost a couple of tanks, an artillery position, and some more stuff up there last night.

      Things can change when you get a little publicity, eh?

    2. Australia is said be looking to join the fray this weekend - their planes are already there.

    3. .

      Why should we give a shit? Kobane is just a small, out of the way town, in the extreme North of Syria, a town of absolutely No strategic, or tactical value.



    4. Because, Quirk, our Israei contingent keeps bringing it up, putting Kobane on the front burner, as it were ...

      So it seems as if the rest of US are taking note, and that is forcing the President to step up and find and "Active Partner" there.

  52. Developmental PsychologistTue Sep 30, 10:07:00 PM EDT

    I calculate Jack Hawkins/Farmer Rob/ etcetc has the developmental emotional age of approximately 11 or 12 years.

    1. More fiction from an anonymous piece of "O"rdure.
      Your calculations are as worthless as Bibi's word.

    2. Nope not me...

      But you are more like a 5 year old according to others at the blog.

  53. Cleaver of VertebraeTue Sep 30, 10:18:00 PM EDT

    Beheading is Against Islam, That’s Why Mohammed Owned a Sword Named “Cleaver of Vertebrae”
    September 30, 2014 by Daniel Greenfield 15 Comments

    Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam. He is completing a book on the international challenges America faces in the 21st century.

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    Can anyone name Moses or Jesus’ favorite swords? Mohammed though had a huge sword collection, a lot of them stolen from other people, because he was kind of a psycho.

    How much did Mohammed like his swords? He named them. And he liked them more than his wives or just about anything else.

    “The al-Rasub sword is one of the nine swords of the prophet Muhammad. It is said that the weapons of the house of the prophet Muhammad were kept among his family just like the Ark was kept with the Israelites.”

    Except the Ark contained the word of G-d, while the sword was something that Mohammed used to murder non-Muslims. There is no better contrast between religions.

    One of his favorite swords was Dhu al-Faqar or “Cleaver of Vertebrae”. When you see this kind of sword on a Jihadist flag, that’s ole Faqar. Muslim legend says that the sword was given to Mohammed by an angel. Actually he looted it in battle or his followers did.

    “Dhu al-Faqar is the name of this sword, taken as Booty by the prophet Muhammad at the Battle of Badr. It is reported that the prophet Muhammad gave the sword to Ali b. Abi Talib, and that Ali returned from the Battle of Uhud covered with blood from his hands to his shoulders, having Dhu al-Faqar with him. “

    Cheerful story. Nothing to do with Islam of course, except for it involving its prophet and his campaign to convert everyone to Islam by the sword… of which he had a whole bunch.

    The sword got passed down to various Muslim Caliphs and rulers until one of them tried to kill a dog with it and it broke. It might have been the obvious design flaw.

    So much for the magic sword.

    But let’s not be judgmental. It turns out that Mohammed also had the sword of a whole bunch of people.

    “The al-Battar sword was taken by the prophet Muhammad as booty from the Banu Qaynaqa. It is called the “sword of the prophets” and is inscribed in Arabic with the names of David, Solomon, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, Zechariah, John, Jesus, and Muhammad. It also has a drawing of King David when cut off the head of Goliath to whom this sword had belonged originally. . . .”

    The Banu Qaynaqa were among the Jews massacred by Mohammed and his murderous thugs. In the twisted mindset of Islam having a sword with a bunch of names of religious figures on it means that you succeed them.

    Islam really is the religion of the sword.

    1. One wonders, if the Muslims are so ... barbaric ... why oh why is there now
      In broad daylight, a Saudi-Israeli alliance

    2. Reality keeps smacking down the lies the Israeli are propagating.
      The own actions deny the truth of their rhetoric.

    3. Their own actions deny the truth of their rhetoric.

    4. Nope, I keep posting the facts, referenced and linked, you keep repeating the same lies.

      Vacuous and vapid is how to describe your comments, you little piece of "O"rdure

    5. What's really humorous, mostly reference Israeli sources, like the JPost, when it comes to "current events'

      Israel prefers Daesh (al-Qeada) in Syria, over the Alawites, Christians and their Kurdish allies

  54. desert rat was thinking of getting one these ...
    The Lionheart from Griffon Aerospace is a sophisticated airframe, something that many overlook because of the biplane configuration. With a 5,200-pound empty weight and a 2,086-pound payload.

    The original Lionheart mission envisioned carrying no less than six people at no less than 200 mph true airspeed for a minimum of 1,200 to 1,400 miles.

    No matter how you juggle the numbers, the immutable laws of physics say that it's going to take a lot of ponies to do the job, more than is commercially available in flat motors. For practical flat engines 350 hp is about the upper limit, with the humongous, eight-cylinder Lycoming IO-720 giving 400 hp (list price approximately $100,000). Cost alone caused Larry French to look elsewhere for his power.

    If you focus on the power-required question while keeping one hand on your wallet and then look across the engines currently available, one answer becomes obvious: It's hard to beat the old R-985 Pratt & Whitney on a dollar per horsepower basis.

    The 985 kicks out 450 hp, has a supercharger (not a turbocharger) so it still produces plenty of horsepower at high altitudes (300 hp at 10,000 feet), and sells in the $20,000- to $25,000-range in overhauled condition.

    Parts are nearly as available as Lycoming/Continental parts, and the huge number of the engines in service has given rise to a support industry that has even begun to produce new cylinders. In short, when it comes to brute horsepower, the R-985 offers just about the best dollar-to-horsepower ratio.

    1. But he REALLY likes the secure feeling of flying with twin engines, instead of a single.
      The Lionheart, though, is one GOOD LOOKING aircraft, no doubt of that.
      The stagger-wing, just so cool, or as they say today, chill.

    2. The Pratt & Whitney R-985 is a real workhorse, generating 450 horse power.

      The de Havilland Otter I had was powered by a Pratt & Whitney PT6A and that engine generates almost 1,000 horse power, and it never let me down, but rat spends more hours over the water than I ever would have contemplated doing.

      Another stagger-wing, that is 'real' old school is the Beech 17, always liked the look of those, but they are pretty old 1935 - 1944 manufacture dates and expensive, upwards of $200,000 as well as being difficult to find a low hour airframe.

      The Russians built a tough bird, the Antonov An-2 the word's larges biplane, which are readily available in Europe, as over 20,000 of them were built, starting in 1947. The Russians still use them as commercial passenger planes but the FAA will only certify the An-2s imported since 1993 as experimental, which drastically limits their practical usage.

    3. I'm told that flying an AN-2 is like driving a 1940's dump truck, doubt if I'll ever get the chance to find out for myself.

  55. The season is about to start, here, but it is already well underway in Florida.
    Welcome to Wellington Polo!

    The first big match of our season is coming up ...
    The Fourth Annual Bentley Scottsdale Polo Championships: Horses & Horsepower

    I'd see you fellas at the field, but I doubt any of you will be there.

    Then the season in Indio (Palm Springs) kicks off, that is where the best polo is played in the Western US. Some real high goal action.

    1. Almost every weekend there is high goal polo in Indio, at the Empire Polo Club through the winter.
      Fun to watch, if you know what it is you are seeing.
      A lot like football, in that regard.

      Even more fun, to watch is arena polo. There are two great spots for that in LA.
      One is at the LA Equestrian Center, the other is the California Polo Club which has what may be the best polo school in the country. They hold any number of games at both locations.

    2. They play grass polo at the Will Rogers Park, in conjunction with the LA Equestrian Center. There is only the one field, though. A lot like Scottsdale, in that regard. The thing about the LA Equestrian Center, Sly Stallone and his brother both play there, so that's kind of fun, watching the paparazzi watch the Stallones and other celebs.

  56. Moussa found the documents in the rubble of a house the group used in the Syrian city of Aleppo and that had been bombed in the US-led airstrikes. (She is braver than you are.) A list of names identifies 13 men, one of them identified by the US as a Khorasan member, under the heading "Wolf Unit of Jabhat al-Nusra." Moussa says the name appears to include four Turks, two Egyptians, two Yemenis, two Tunisians, one Palestinian, one Serbian, and one from the Caucasus region.

    If this is indeed the group's name, it could have potential significance beyond just giving us something more accurate to call them. Jabhat al-Nusra (which means "the support front") is the official branch of al-Qaeda operating in Syria. There has been an open and much-debated question as to whether Khorasan reports to the central al-Qaeda leadership back in Pakistan and Afghanistan or reports to the local commanders of Jabhat al-Nusra. That would speak to, although not fully answer, the group's mission and intent (is it focused locally in Syria, or just using it as a base of global al-Qaeda operations?) as well as other important organizational details.

    The Wolf Unit of Al Nusra?