COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Sunday, July 13, 2014

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says [Israeli official Avner Cohen], a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.

Israel and the U.S. CREATED Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Qaeda

Creating the Enemies We Now Fight Against
We’ve extensively documented that the U.S. and Israel created Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups in an attempt to fight other enemies.
Larry Johnson – a counterterrorism official at the U.S. State Department – says:
The Israelis are their own worst enemies when it comes to fighting terrorism. They are like a guy who sets fire to his hair and then tries to put it out by hitting it with a hammer. They do more to incite and sustain terrorism than curb it.
As one example, Israel helped create Hamas.
Veteran journalist Robert Dreyfuss writes:
In the decades before 9/11, hard-core activists and organizations among Muslim fundamentalists on the far right were often viewed as allies for two reasons, because they were seen a fierce anti-communists and because the opposed secular nationalists such as Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser, Iran’s Mohammed Mossadegh.
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In Syria, the United States, Israel, and Jordan supported the Muslim Brotherhood in a civil war against Syria. And … Israel quietly backed Ahmed Yassin and the Muslim Brotherhood in the West Bank and Gaza, leading to the establishment of Hamas.
See this and this:

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Charles Freeman, Shin Bet—the Israeli counter-intelligence and internal security service— knowingly created Hamas:
Israel started Hamas. It was a project of Shin Bet, which had a feeling that they could use it to hem in the PLO.
Anti War reported in 2006:
Amid all the howls of pain and gnashing of teeth over the triumph of Hamas in the Palestinian elections, one fact remains relatively obscure, albeit highly relevant:   Israel did much to launch Hamas as an effective force in the occupied territories. If ever there was a clear case of “blowback,” then this is it. As Richard Sale pointed out in a piece for UPI:
“Israel and Hamas may currently be locked in deadly combat, but, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials, beginning in the late 1970s, Tel Aviv gave direct and indirect financial aid to Hamas over a period of years. Israel ‘aided Hamas directly – the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization),’ said Tony Cordesman, Middle East analyst for the Center for Strategic [and International] Studies. Israel’s support for Hamas ‘was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative,’ said a former senior CIA official.”
Middle East analyst Ray Hanania concurs:
“In addition to hoping to turn the Palestinian masses away from Arafat and the PLO, the Likud leadership believed they could achieve a workable alliance with Islamic, anti-Arafat forces that would also extend Israel’s control over the occupied territories.”
In a conscious effort to undermine the Palestine Liberation Organization and the leadership of Yasser Arafat, in 1978 the government of then-Prime Minister Menachem Begin approved the application of Sheik Ahmad Yassin to start a “humanitarian” organization known as the Islamic Association, or Mujama. The roots of this Islamist group were in the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood, and this was the seed that eventually grew into Hamas – but not before it was amply fertilized and nurtured with Israeli funding and political support.
Begin and his successor, Yitzhak Shamir, launched an effort to undercut the PLO, creating the so-called Village Leagues, composed of local councils of handpicked Palestinians who were willing to collaborate with Israel – and, in return, were put on the Israeli payroll. Sheik Yassin and his followers soon became a force within the Village Leagues. This tactical alliance between Yassin and the Israelis was based on a shared antipathy to the militantly secular and leftist PLO: the Israelis allowed Yassin’s group to publish a newspaper and set up an extensive network of charitable organizations, which collected funds not only from the Israelis but also from Arab states opposed to Arafat.
Ami Isseroff, writing on MideastWeb, shows how the Israelis deliberately promoted the Islamists of the future Hamas by helping them turn the Islamic University of Gaza into a base from which the group recruited activists – and the suicide bombers of tomorrow. As the only higher-education facility in the Gaza strip, and the only such institution open to Palestinians since Anwar Sadat closed Egyptian colleges to them, IUG contained within its grounds the seeds of the future Palestinian state. When a conflict arose over religious issues, however, the Israeli authorities sided with the Islamists against the secularists of the Fatah-PLO mainstream. As Isseroff relates, the Islamists
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Tacit complicity from both university and Israeli authorities allowed Mujama to keep a weapons cache to use against secularists.
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Again, the motive was to offset Arafat’s influence and divide the Palestinians. In the short term, this may have worked to some extent; in the longer term, however, it backfired badly – as demonstrated by the results of the recent Palestinian election.
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Israel’s relentless offensive against its perceived enemies – first Fatah, now Hamas and Islamic Jihad – has created a backlashand solidified support for fundamentalist extremist factions in the Palestinian community.
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There is a lesson in there, somewhere, though it isn’t one the Israelis or their American sponsors seem capable of learning just yet.
The Wall Street Journal noted in 2009:
“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” says [Israeli official Avner Cohen], a Tunisian-born Jew who worked in Gaza for more than two decades. Responsible for religious affairs in the region until 1994, Mr. Cohen watched the Islamist movement take shape, muscle aside secular Palestinian rivals and then morph into what is today Hamas, a militant group that is sworn to Israel’s destruction.
Instead of trying to curb Gaza’s Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat’s Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with “Yassins,” primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric.
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When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and ’80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel. The Israeli government officially recognized a precursor to Hamas called Mujama Al-Islamiya, registering the group as a charity. It allowed Mujama members to set up an Islamic university and build mosques, clubs and schools. Crucially, Israel often stood aside when the Islamists and their secular left-wing Palestinian rivals battled, sometimes violently, for influence in both Gaza and the West Bank.
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“When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake,” says David Hacham, who worked in Gaza in the late 1980s and early ’90s as an Arab-affairs expert in the Israeli military. “But at the time nobody thought about the possible results.”
Israeli officials who served in Gaza disagree on how much their own actions may have contributed to the rise of Hamas. They blame the group’s recent ascent on outsiders, primarily Iran. This view is shared by the Israeli government. “Hamas in Gaza was built by Iran as a foundation for power, and is backed through funding, through training and through the provision of advanced weapons,” Mr. Olmert said last Saturday. Hamas has denied receiving military assistance from Iran.
Arieh Spitzen, the former head of the Israeli military’s Department of Palestinian Affairs, says that even if Israel had tried to stop the Islamists sooner, he doubts it could have done much to curb political Islam, a movement that was spreading across the Muslim world. He says attempts to stop it are akin to trying to change the internal rhythms of nature: “It is like saying: ‘I will kill all the mosquitoes.’ But then you get even worse insects that will kill you…You break the balance. You kill Hamas you might get al Qaeda.”
When it became clear in the early 1990s that Gaza’s Islamists had mutated from a religious group into a fighting force aimed at Israel — particularly after they turned to suicide bombings in 1994 — Israel cracked down with ferocious force. But each military assault only increased Hamas’s appeal to ordinary Palestinians. The group ultimately trounced secular rivals, notably Fatah, in a 2006 election supported by Israel’s main ally, the U.S.
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In Gaza, Israel hunted down members of Fatah and other secular PLO factions, but it dropped harsh restrictions imposed on Islamic activists by the territory’s previous Egyptian rulers.
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The Muslim Brotherhood, led in Gaza by Sheikh Yassin, was free to spread its message openly. In addition to launching various charity projects, Sheikh Yassin collected money to reprint the writings of Sayyid Qutb, an Egyptian member of the Brotherhood who, before his execution by President Nasser, advocated global jihad. He is now seen as one of the founding ideologues of militant political Islam.
Mr. Cohen, who worked at the time for the Israeli government’s religious affairs department in Gaza, says he began to hear disturbing reports in the mid-1970s about Sheikh Yassin from traditional Islamic clerics. He says they warned that the sheikh had no formal Islamic training and was ultimately more interested in politics than faith. “They said, ‘Keep away from Yassin. He is a big danger,’” recalls Mr. Cohen.
Instead, Israel’s military-led administration in Gaza looked favorably on the paraplegic cleric, who set up a wide network of schools, clinics, a library and kindergartens. Sheikh Yassin formed the Islamist group Mujama al-Islamiya, which was officially recognized by Israel as a charity and then, in 1979, as an association. Israel also endorsed the establishment of the Islamic University of Gaza, which it now regards as a hotbed of militancy.
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Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who took over as governor in Gaza in late 1979, says he had no illusions about Sheikh Yassin’s long-term intentions or the perils of political Islam. As Israel’s former military attache in Iran, he’d watched Islamic fervor topple the Shah. However, in Gaza, says Mr. Segev, “our main enemy was Fatah,” and the cleric “was still 100% peaceful” towards Israel. Former officials say Israel was also at the time wary of being viewed as an enemy of Islam.
Mr. Segev says he had regular contact with Sheikh Yassin, in part to keep an eye on him. He visited his mosque and met the cleric around a dozen times. It was illegal at the time for Israelis to meet anyone from the PLO. Mr. Segev later arranged for the cleric to be taken to Israel for hospital treatment. “We had no problems with him,” he says.
In fact, the cleric and Israel had a shared enemy: secular Palestinian activists. After a failed attempt in Gaza to oust secularists from leadership of the Palestinian Red Crescent, the Muslim version of the Red Cross, Mujama staged a violent demonstration, storming the Red Crescent building. Islamists also attacked shops selling liquor and cinemas. The Israeli military mostly stood on the sidelines.
Mr. Segev says the army didn’t want to get involved in Palestinian quarrels but did send soldiers to prevent Islamists from burning down the house of the Red Crescent’s secular chief, a socialist who supported the PLO.
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A leader of Birzeit’s Islamist faction at the time was Mahmoud Musleh, now a pro-Hamas member of a Palestinian legislature elected in 2006. He recalls how usually aggressive Israeli security forces stood back and let conflagration develop. He denies any collusion between his own camp and the Israelis, but says “they hoped we would become an alternative to the PLO.”
A year later, in 1984, the Israeli military received a tip-off from Fatah supporters that Sheikh Yassin’s Gaza Islamists were collecting arms, according to Israeli officials in Gaza at the time. Israeli troops raided a mosque and found a cache of weapons. Sheikh Yassin was jailed. He told Israeli interrogators the weapons were for use against rival Palestinians, not Israel, according to Mr. Hacham, the military affairs expert who says he spoke frequently with jailed Islamists. The cleric was released after a year and continued to expand Mujama’s reach across Gaza.
Similarly, Hezbollah was created in blowback after Israeli’s scorched earth brutality in Lebanon.  Time noted in 2009:
Originally a small-scale guerrilla group in southern Lebanon formed to resist Israeli invasion in the 1980s, Hizballah built its reputation on a dogged ability to repeatedly hold its own against Israeli forces ….
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“When we entered Lebanon, there was no Hizballah. We were accepted by perfumed rice and flowers by the Shi’a in the south,” Israeli defense minister Ehud Barak once noted. “It was our presence there that created Hizballah.”
As the Washington Post reported in 2006, it was Israeli’s brutality which led to the creation of Hezbollah:
The 1978 Operation Litani provided a clear lesson in the rules of unintended consequences. It was a swift success militarily; Israeli forces pushed across the border and moved about 20 miles north to the Litani River without serious opposition from primarily ragtag Palestinian defenders. They weren’t native to the area or fully familiar with it — they’d moved to it in the early 1970s to escape a crackdown in Jordan.
Under U.S. and other international pressure, the Israeli forces soon withdrew. But the Israeli defense minister at the time, Ezer Weizman, who later became president, ordered relentless bombing of the Lebanese border hills to drive out the civilian population. U.S. officials complained of civilian casualties, but the attacks continued.
The idea, Israeli officials explained, was to create a free-fire zone where it could be assumed that anybody moving around was a Palestinian guerrilla and a fair target for Israeli warplanes or artillery fire. The result over the next year, however, was a long list of civilian deaths — farmers carrying tobacco crops to market, families picnicking on jagged hillsides and villagers caught in their homes when stray bombs landed.
Eventually, increasing numbers gave up and fled to Beirut. These families, most of them Shiite Muslims, took up residence in what was then undeveloped land between southern Beirut and the international airport — and now is the teeming Shiite suburb known as the Dahiya.
Its exploding young population, sons of those chased from southern homes, became the base of a new radical organization born several years later. Inspired by the 1979 Iranian revolution, it eventually took the name Hezbollah, or Party of God.
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More than two decades later, Hezbollah has grown into an extensive political force in Lebanon, backed by Shiite Muslims who have become the largest religious community in the country. Hezbollah candidates run for elections. Hezbollah social service agencies provide health care and schooling for poor farmers. Hezbollah television, al-Manar, broadcasts technically slick and virulently anti-Israeli programs into Lebanese homes.

Not least, a Hezbollah military wing, not the national army, fought year after year against Israeli troops who remained after 1982 to occupy a border enclave. Politically worn out, the Israeli occupation forces finally pulled out of Lebanon in 2000, a departure that has gone down in local historical narrative as a Hezbollah victory.

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  1. “It is like saying: ‘I will kill all the mosquitoes.’ But then you get even worse insects that will kill you…You break the balance. You kill Hamas you might get al Qaeda.”

    But as Ambassador Oren told the JPost last September ...

    Israel Prefers al-Qaeda

    Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Michael Oren told the Jerusalem Post that Israel so wanted Assad out and his Iranian backers weakened, that Israel would accept al-Qaeda operatives taking power in Syria.

    “We always wanted Bashar Assad to go, we always preferred the bad guys who weren’t backed by Iran to the bad guys who were backed by Iran.”

    Even if the other “bad guys” were affiliated with al-Qaeda.
    “We understand that they are pretty bad guys,” Oren said in the interview.

    http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328

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  2. the members of Hamas are adults.

    They make their own choices.

    Hamas is the daughter of the Moslem Brotherhood, no matter whether Israel tried to play they against Fatah or not.

    Once again you prove you are without a doubt, insane.

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  3. Great news...

    The Hamas? Blew up it's own power sub station today. 70 thousand gazans now without power.... LOL The Israeli Electric Company has been ordered NOT to fix it.

    LOL

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    1. The comment below is directed at the ignorant racist from Idaho.

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  4. Keep it up and I’ll span you out. I am sick of your ignorant racist crap.

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  5. That was addressed to the fool, the ignorant racist from Idaho, who is incapable of following a simple request.

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  6. I will have Quirk send you the info about my Niece, from darkest India.

    You are losing your mind.

    Kick me out if you want.

    You can talk to desert rat.

    I am writing an email to Quirk right now, to send you a picture of my Niece, and her thesis if he has it. If I can find Q's address.

    I trust you are honorable enough to not pass it on

    QUIRK SEND DEUCE A PICTURE OF MY NIECE TO DISPROVE THAT I AM A RACIST.

    Culture counts.

    I don't like ignorance.

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  7. The IDF Spokesman's Office stated on Monday that Israel has kept the border crossing into Gaza open to fuel and humanitarian imports.

    According to IDF statistics, 70 trucks carrying food and general supplies crossed into Gaza on Sunday. 120 tons of gas and 376,000 liters of fuels also entered Gaza at the border crossing with Israel despite ongoing hostilities and continued rocket fire into Israel.


    Wow I guess Israel will be blamed 20 years from now for all the palestinian kids it fed and provided medical care for when they grow up and get radicalized too...

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  8. Delete this asshole but you have read it, and I will get hold of Q.

    You have read it Deuce.

    I will ask Q to send you the material that shows I am not a racist.

    Delete away, your place is not worth it anymore if you delete Martha Gellhorn.

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  9. Q send me your email address through somebody.

    I am on a new system.

    I wish you to send Deuce the picture and material about my Niece that shows any reasonable mind I am not a racist.

    I don;t have my old emails.

    Nor the materials.

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  10. Here is what Martha Gellhorn said about the Palestinians, in a 1961 Atlantiic article, as she described how things were not that bad for them in their forced refugee camps:

    What do they look like, the undifferentiated mass known as the "Palestinian Refugee Problem"? What do they think, feel, say? What do they want? How do they live, where do they live, what do they do? Who takes care of them? What future can they hope for, in terms of reality, not in terms of slogans, which are meaningless if not actually fatal, as we know.

    The children are as fast as birds, irreverent as monkeys, large-eyed, ready to laugh. The young girls, trained by carrying water jars or other heavy household bundles on their heads, move like ballerinas and are shrouded in modesty and silence as if in cocoons. The young men, crudely or finely formed, have in common the hopefulness and swagger of their new manhood. The middle years seem nondescript, in both sexes. After this the women, who age quickly but not as quickly as the men, wear unpainted experience on their faces; they look patient, humorous, and strong. When the men have grown visibly old, they turn into a race of grandees. Their color, infant to patriarch, ranges from golden fair to mahogany dark, all warmed by the glaze of sun. The instinct for hospitality, the elegance of manner have not been exaggerated.


    Not much racism there.

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    1. Why not post what the arabs say about Jews today?

      In the streets of Paris, in London or even between you and your friends?

      Not much racism there.

      I call bullshit.

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    2. Several thousand demonstrators walked calmly through the streets of Paris behind a large banner that read “Total Support for the Struggle of the Palestinian People”.

      But clashes erupted at the end of the march on Bastille Square, with people throwing projectiles onto a cordon of police who responded with tear gas. The unrest was continuing early Sunday evening.

      Media reports said that hundreds of Jews were trapped inside a synagogue in the area and police units were sent to rescue them.

      A person in the synagogue told Israel’s Channel 2 news that protesters hurled stones and bricks at the building, “like it was an intifada.”

      The event comes after a firebomb was hurled at a synagogue in the suburbs of Paris this past Friday night. Despite it being Shabbat, there were no injuries and only minor damage occurred.

      On July 8, the day Israel launched Operation Protective Edge, a teenage girl in Paris was physically assaulted by a man with a “Middle Eastern appearance” who pepper sprayed her while shouting, “Dirty Jewess, inshallah you will die.”

      France, home to one of the largest Jewish populations in Europe, is second only to Russia in terms of Jewish immigration to Israel. According to Israeli politician and former Soviet political prisoner Natan Sharansky, “Something historic is happening. It may be the beginning of the end of European Jewry.”

      According to Israel’s Channel 2 news, Anne Hidalgo, the mayor of Paris, has confirmed that anti-Israel rioters attempted to enter two synagogues in central Paris. The rioters were stopped by French police.

      Instagram user Jean-Baptiste Soufron posted a video from the Synagogue de la Roquette where pro-Palestinian activists were in the midst of a standoff with French police. One French Instagram user commented, “A shame for France ….far from the land of my childhood.” Another wrote, “The French media are responsible for inciting strong hatred and misinformation.”

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    3. they aint anti-jew,. just anti-zionist...

      LOL

      not much racism there.

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    4. Neither Zionism nor Judaism are racial.

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  11. It sounds as if it was penned by the same author of Little Black Sambo.

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    1. http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4341.htm

      Hamas TV Song in Hebrew: Annihilate all the Zionists, Exterminate the Coackroaches' Nest

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    2. French Comedian Dieudonné Promotes New Humor-Based Antisemitic Subculture
      By: N. Szerman and R. Sosnow*

      Introduction
      French comedian Dieudonné M'bala M'bala, whose comedy has long centered around antisemitic, anti-Zionist, and revisionist themes, has had numerous convictions for defamation, in both France and in Canada, and has had shows cancelled in Canada and in Belgium.[1] In January 2014, his antisemitic show "Le Mur" was cancelled across France.[2]
      Dieudonne is also known for his invention and popularization of the use of the quenelle, a sort of reverse Nazi salute; the use of the gesture has been spreading in the past few years, notably by a number of prominent athletes and politicians, including French soccer star Nicolas Anelka, American basketball star Tony Parker, and National Front party founder Jean-Marie Le Pen. On January 11, 2014, it was used en masse by a group of young people outside the great synagogue in Bordeaux, France to mark the 70th anniversary of the Gestapo's evacuation of the city's Jews, who had been rounded up and imprisoned in the synagogue, to the death camps.[3] (For more on Dieudonné, see MEMRI Special Announcement No. 277, From The MEMRI Archives: Reports On French Muslim Antisemitic Comedian Dieudonné, January 3, 2014.)
      French Footballer Anelka Refuses To Apologize For Post-Goal Quenelle
      Following his quenelle after scoring in a December 28, 2013 soccer match, Nicolas Anelka,[4] who plays for the U.K. team West Brom, defended his use of the gesture via his Twitter account (@anelkaofficiel). He said that he had done it "as a special dedication" to his "comedian friend Dieudonné" and refused to apologize, though later he did agree not to use the gesture again.[5] As of this writing, demands for his apology continue, most recently from former Football Association chairman Lord Triesman. Anelka's refusal is in contrast to the apology of American basketball player Tony Parker, who expressed his regret for using the gesture in a photo taken a few years ago with Dieudonne; Parker added that he had not understood its implications.[6]
      The Etymology And Origins Of The Quenelle
      The quenelle gesture, invented, named, and popularized by Dieudonné, is a combination of the French bras d'honneur gesture – meaning "up yours" – and an inverted Nazi salute. The word quenelle is a verlan (French backwards slang) version of the vulgar expression nique-le ("fuck him"); it has no connection to the French dumpling of the same name.
      The quenelle gesture was first reported seen in a non-antisemitic show by Dieudonné titled "1905," in connection with a gesture signifying a dolphin.[7] Later, Dieudonné himself linked the gesture to "anti-Zionism." In 2009, he topped the list of the French "Anti-Zionist" party, headed by the France-based Shi'ite activist Yahia Gouasmi,[8] in elections for the European Parliament, and, at a press conference launching his electoral campaign, he declared that "​​dragging a little quenelle to the bottom of the ass of Zionism" was a project dear to his heart.[9] His campaign poster shows him making the gesture:

      no racism here...

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    3. The Image Of The Jew In The Ramadan TV Show 'Khaybar' – Treacherous, Hateful Of The Other, Scheming, And Corrupt
      By: Y. Yehoshua*

      Introduction
      During the month of Ramadan, Arab TV channels air drama and comedy shows to entertain viewers after they break their fast. One of the shows airing this year is a docudrama called "Khaybar," which is the name of the Jewish community in the Arabian Peninsula conquered by the Prophet Muhammad in 628 CE.
      The show deals with relations between Muslims and the Arab tribes of Medina, as well as with the Jews of Medina and Khaybar, leading up to the Jews' expulsion from the latter.[1] According to media reports in early 2013, the show "focuses on the social, economic, and religious lives of the Jews, including their politics, their plots, and the way they managed and controlled the [Aws and Khazraj Arab] tribes." The show also portrays "the [Jews'] hostility and hatred towards others, along with their treacherous nature, their repeated betrayals, and their despicable racism."[2]

      http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/51/7279.htm

      no racism here...

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    4. Editor Of Hamas Paper: Murder Of Palestinian Teen In Jerusalem Reminiscent Of Jews' Custom Of Baking Matzos With Blood

      In an antisemitic article, the editor of Hamas's paper Al-Risalah, Wisam 'Afifa, associated the death of Muhammad Abu Khdeir, a Palestinian teen whose body was found yesterday (July 2, 2014) in Jerusalem, with the claim that the Jews used blood to bake their matzos on Passover. It should be noted that the identity and motivation of Abu Khdeir's murder(s) is yet unknown; the murder is possibly a hate crime perpetrated by Jews in revenge for the recent murder of three Israeli teens. 'Afifa wrote that, just as the Jews once killed non-Jews to use their blood for matzos, today they still engage in "sacred rites" of vengeance. He added that Israel has adopted the ideology of the Nazis, who distinguished between superior and inferior races.
      The following are excerpts:[1]

      Wisam 'Afifa (image: aqsatv.ps)
      "The settlers used the body of 17-year-old Muhammad Hussein Abu Khdeir, from Shuafat in northern Jerusalem, to carry out their sacred [act of] vengeance by torturing him and burning him to death, in a crime reminiscent of their holy matzos that became part of their history of betrayal and murder – for the culture of violence and blood grew among the Jews to such an extent that it seeped into their sacred rites and prayers.
      "By holy matzos,' I mean those matzos mixed with human blood, the blood of gentiles, namely of the non-Jewish other, [which they baked] to celebrate the Jewish holiday called Passover. According to historical accounts, they used to murder Christians, preferably children under ten, collect their blood, and then hand it over to a rabbi, so he would mix it into the holiday matzos, and then serve them to the believers, to devour on their holiday.
      "These ancient rites are echoed in modern ones, whereby [the Jews] sanctify the blood of [their fellow] Jews, who are considered humans of the first level, and disregard the blood of Palestinians. This obliges [Palestinian] President Mahmoud 'Abbas to define and classify the martyred boy Abu Khdeir, after he ['Abbas] expressed his rage to the Muslim countries' foreign ministers [at the June 18, 2014 Jeddah conference] and said that the three settlers who had been kidnapped in the West Bank were human beings like us and we must search for them and return them, thus meeting [the Israeli] demand to endow these three settlers with a halo of divinity and of lofty humanity and describe them as 'exceptional human beings'...
      "The unjust world – from the US and the EU to the president of the Palestinian Authority – greatly lamented the death of the three settlers, but it does not lament the death of the Palestinian boy Abu Khdeir, since he belongs to the group whose blood is not [considered] sacred, according to the international community's classification of human, ethnic and political groups, which places Israel high on the ladder and the Palestinians low. The international community's double standard regarding Israeli and Palestinian blood revives the heritage of the Nazi theory. The Jews, with their criminal behavior, adopt the vision of Hitler, which was based on classifying people into superior races, like the Aryan race, versus inferior races, like the blacks, Arabs and Jews, [and held that] the superiority of the white race over all other peoples entitles it to many absolute rights, such as the right to rule over other peoples.
      "Similarly, we see that Israel believes that the superiority of the Jewish race endows it with the absolute right to occupy, build settlements, take vengeance and spill blood. That is how they baked their sacred bread in the past, and that is how they hold their sacred rites of vengeance in the present, whose victim [this time] was the boy Abu Khdeir."


      no racism here.

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    5. Judaism is not a race.

      Zionists are anti-Semitic.

      They murdered 252 Jewish refugees and were complicit with Hitler in the murder of almost 6 million innocents.

      , Barry Chamish writes that, about a year before he became Prime Minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon said that had Jabotinsky been head of the Jewish Agency instead of Ben-Gurion, millions of Jews would have been saved from the Holocaust.

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    6. ... the “Stern Gang,” among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the “Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.”
      Avraham Stern and his followers announced that

      “The NMO, which is well-acquainted with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its authorities towards Zionist activity inside Germany and towards Zionist emigration plans, is of the opinion that:

      1. Common interests could exist between the establishment of a new order in Europe in conformity with the German concept, and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as they are embodied by the NMO.

      2. Cooperation between the new Germany and a renewed folkish-national Hebraium would be possible and,

      3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German position of power in the Near East.
      Proceeding from these considerations, the NMO in Palestine, under the condition the above-mentioned national aspirations of the Israeli freedom movement are recognized on the side of the German Reich, offers to actively take part in the war on Germany’s side.”


      http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/12/23/51-documents/

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  12. If I can get your email address then I can get hold of you with the materials about my Niece.

    I do not see your email on the page.

    Can you put up your email address somewhere? I simply don't see it.

    Thank you.

    I don't even have Quirk's email address any more.

    But I tire of being called a racist.

    I have three email addresses in my box at this time.

    I wish to prove to you I am not a racist.

    Culture is something entirely else.

    I don't wish to post my email address here for the obvious reasons.


    But I wish to show you that you are wrong.

    And Gellhorn is right. It is the same now as 60 years ago.

    It is their book, not their genes.

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    1. Their book is more rational than the Talmud.

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    2. Hell, Robert your nights are awfully short, not even twenty minutes

      You are less than a scab.

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    1. I don't get the reference.

      Does it have to do with inner city blacks that you used to get down on so?

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    2. For a time there Deuce you posted thread after threads showing the criminality of inner city blacks.

      I recall I protested once, saying you are showing signs of racism.

      I recall your response, which was "It's the truth."

      I recall my answer which was, maybe, but if I did that you would call me a racist.

      Remember?

      I am not a racist, but I do think there are great and lasting differences between the races.

      But I am not a racist. I would vote for Ben Carson in a heartbeat. I would vote for Mr Colonel West. I might vote for Condi Rice.

      How we deal with the differences between the races is an open question.

      My response is : change the culture.

      I have not the foggiest idea of what your response might be.

      I don't think you have one. I don't think you have even given it any thought.

      But you were the one making the implication that all blacks are criminals.

      Not me.

      "It is the truth" you said.

      I want the email address to The Elephant Bar

      So I can defend myself against YOUR charge of racism.

      Thank you.

      Bob

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    3. There is no defense that you can mount, Robert Peterson.
      You are a racist, you are a bigot, you are a fascist.
      You are a faggot, in the purest meaning of the word.

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  14. What is the email address of The Elephant Bar?

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    1. I need that to defend myself against the charge of racism.

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    3. No one cares about your needs, or your wants.
      You have alienated everyone here.

      You are neither young nor loved.
      You life, by your own definition ....

      ... has become meaningless.

      Your continued drain upon the taxpayer, without merit.

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  15. Anybody have the email address to The Elephant Bar?

    I do not have Q's address.

    I need that to defend myself against the charge of racism.

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    1. You cannot. You are a racist pig, first confirmed by evidence in November of 2008

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  16. Stephen Hawking’s decision to boycott the Israeli president’s conference has gone viral. Over 100,000 Facebook shares of the Guardian report at last count. Whatever the subsequent fuss, Hawking's letter is unequivocal. His refusal was made because of requests from Palestinian academics.

    Witness the speed with which the pro-Israel lobby seized on Cambridge University's initial false claim that he had withdrawn on health grounds to denounce the boycott movement, and their embarrassment when within a few hours the university shamefacedly corrected itself. Hawking also made it clear that if he had gone he would have used the occasion to criticise Israel's policies towards the Palestinians.

    While journalists named him "the poster boy of the academic boycott" and supporters of the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement celebrated, Ha'aretz, the most progressive of the Israeli press, drew attention to the inflammatory language used by the conference organisers, who described themselves as "outraged" rather than that they "regretted" Hawking's decision.

    That the world's most famous scientist had recognised the justice of the Palestinian cause is potentially a turning point for the BDS campaign. And that his stand was approved by a majority of two to one in the Guardian poll that followed his announcement shows just how far public opinion has turned against Israel’s relentless land-grabbing and oppression.

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      Hawking's public refusal follows that of prominent singers, artists and writers, from Brian Eno to Mike Leigh, Alice Walker and Adrienne Rich, all of whom have publicly rejected invitations to perform in Israel. But what winds Israel up is the fact that this rejection is by a famous scientist and that science and technology drive its economy. Hawking's decision threatens to open a floodgate with more and more scientists coming to regard Israel as a pariah state. Its research ties with European and American scientists must be protected.

      That Israel, a Middle East country, has managed to secure membership of the European Research Area and the many collaborative links with European labs underlines the importance of these links. When European parliamentarians challenged its membership on the grounds of Israel’s numerous breaches of UN resolutions and of the European Human Rights conventions, the European Commission responded to the effect that research trumped human rights.

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      Israel's science and technology are not just a source of prestige and technological innovation, but underpin its military strength. It was an Israeli engineer who developed the drones that the US now employs in quantity. Israeli home-produced chemical weapons minimally match those of Syria, and Israeli universities amply supply the Israel Defence Forces with the sociological, psychological and technological methods it employs to suppress Palestinian protests against the occupation.

      The complicity of Israeli academia in Israeli state policy is incontrovertible. However, this is the first time that a scientist of Hawking's status has taken so public a stand – and the hyperventilating response of the Jerusalem conference organisers (it is worth noting that the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, where the conference Hawking refused to attend was to be held, is built on illegally annexed Palestinian land) has only added to its public impact.

      Lastly it has been the very public debates over the rights and wrongs of an academic boycott that have drawn attention to the subservience of the Israeli universities to the state. Until the boycott began internal critics were few and far between, and some of the sharpest such as Ilan Pappé were forced out. However, this subservience is beginning to yield. When in 2012 the education minister attempted to close the politics department at Ben Gurion on "academic grounds", it was immediately recognised as a political attack on one of the very few departments where academics were willing to name Israel as an apartheid state. Prof Gilad Haran from the Weizmann Institute launched a petition stating "We sense that academic freedom in Israel's higher education system is in severe danger." The department remains open – one small victory.

      Hilary Rose is a feminist sociologist of science and emerita professor at Bradford University. Steven Rose is emeritus professor of neuroscience at the Open University. They recently co-authored Genes, Cells and Brains: the Promethean promises of the new biology, and were among the co-founders of BRICUP, the British Committee for the Universities of Palestine

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    3. and yet Hawkins uses Israeli innovations and technology...

      LOL

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  17. Netanyahu owns this. It will get worse.

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    1. He did not kidnap the three Israeli youths.

      But it may get worse.

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    2. Hamas owns this and it is going to get worse for the Palestinian people...

      Monday, July 14

      1:33 p.m. Since the beginning of Operation Protective Edge: 980 Gazan rockets have been launched at Israel, Iron Dome has intercepted 200 rockets, the IAF has struck 1470 sites in Gaza.

      Since midnight there have been 32 rockets launched at Israel, 28 rocket hits, and 4 interceptions.

      1:15 p.m. Moments ago a rocket alert siren sounded in Ashkelon. One rocket was intercepted by Iron Dome.

      1:13 p.m. Since the beginning of the operation, 38 Gazan rockets fell within Gaza in civilian areas, according to the IDF.

      1:00 p.m. Rocket falls in open area of Eshkol.

      12:55 p.m. A siren sounds in Eshkol.

      12:43 p.m. Six rockets were launched at Ashdod moments ago. One fell in a yard next to a house, leaving an 8-year-old boy with light injuries and setting a car on fire. The boy was being treated by paramedics.

      One rocket fell in an open area, and the remaining four were intercepted by Iron Dome.

      12:35 p.m. Sirens were also heard in Mitzpe Ramon in the Negev.

      12:29 p.m. A rocket exploded in an open area in the Eshkol region. No injuries or damage were reported.

      12:25 p.m. A rocket alert siren sounds in Ashdod, Gan Yavne, Be'er Tuvia and in the Lachish region.

      11:58 a.m. A rocket siren was heard in Sha'ar Hanegev. No explosion or interception was heard, and there were no reports of damage or injuries.

      11:35 a.m. Police reported that an unspecified number of rockets were fired on Ashkelon. Iron Dome intercepted all of the rockets in the barrage.

      11:19 a.m. Rocket sirens sound in Ashkelon and Hof Ashkelon Regional Council. Successful interception of rockets.

      11:02 a.m. The military wing of Hamas, the Al Qassam Brigades, claimed responsibility for sending a drone from Gaza into Israeli territory Monday morning.

      Hamas spokespeople also said that they sent several other drones into Israel for deep reconnaissance purposes.

      The Patriot missile battery shot down the one identified drone over an open area in Ashdod.

      10:43 a.m. Sirens are heard in Be'er Tuvia and Asheklon.

      9:55 a.m. The southern part of Hof Ashkelon Regional Council is now a closed military zone due to security reasons, Army Radio says.

      9:36 a.m. Yarin Levy, 16, who was badly injured by shrapnel from an exploding rocket on Sunday in Ashkelon was in stable condition overnight in the ICU and was improving, MDA said Monday.

      8:26 a.m. Sirens heard in the Ashkelon and Ashdod areas. Two rockets were identified, one fell next to a home in Ashkelon. No injuries were reported, but the rocket caused damage to the building.

      8:21 a.m. An unexploded rocket was identified in the yard of a private home in Ashkelon. Police were on their way to the scene.

      7:59 a.m. An unmanned aircraft entered Israeli territory from Gaza and was shot down over Ashdod by the Patriot missile battery Monday morning.

      The Israeli Navy was searching for remnants of the drone, which was shot down over an open area near the coast. The drone set off a Code Red alert siren in the city.

      7:55 a.m. Sirens were heard in Hof Ashkelon, Netivot and Sdot Hanegev Regional Councils moments ago.

      7:11 a.m. Code Red sirens sounded in Sdot Hanegev and surrounding areas.

      3:17 a.m. The IDF Spokesman's Office stated on Monday that Israel has kept the border crossing into Gaza open to fuel and humanitarian imports.

      According to IDF statistics, 70 trucks carrying food and general supplies crossed into Gaza on Sunday. 120 tons of gas and 376,000 liters of fuels also entered Gaza at the border crossing with Israel despite ongoing hostilities and continued rocket fire into Israel.

      3:05 a.m. Code Red sirens sounded in the Eshkol Regional Council and 12 rockets were fired at the area.

      12:29 a.m. Code Red siren heard in the northern city of Nahariya as two Katyusha rockets were launched at the northern city and fell in open areas.

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    3. Zionists murdered 252 Jewish refugees to political annd propaganda purposes.
      The Israeli have a long history of false flag operations, they could have killed those three teens, for political and propaganda purposes. There is no evidence that the people of Gaza had any responsibility for the kidnapping.

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  18. Steve Hawking is at zero risk of getting blown up.

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    1. Same i true of 99.9999% of the Israeli people

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    2. Same is true of 99.9999% of the Israeli people

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  19. A Damaging Distance

    For Israelis and Palestinians, Separation Is Dehumanizing

    By ETHAN BRONNERJULY 11, 2014 -NY Times


    DAYS after Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was gunned down in 1995 by an Israeli Jew who opposed compromise with the Palestinians, Shimon Peres, the acting prime minister, held a news conference. He was asked why more had not been done to protect Mr. Rabin from people like his assassin, Yigal Amir. Mr. Peres replied that it had never occurred to the authorities that a Jew could do such a thing.

    I was at that news conference and have thought often of that remarkable assertion in recent weeks as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has descended into an ugly blood feud. When three Israeli teenagers were kidnapped in the West Bank while hitchhiking home last month, Israeli security forces searching for them took the opportunity to arrest hundreds of Palestinians associated with Hamas. It was commonly claimed among Palestinians either that the kidnapping was an invention used to create a pretext for this latest suppression or that Jews themselves had carried it out. A week and a half ago, after the bodies of the three were found and a Palestinian teenager was kidnapped and burned alive by Israeli extremists in an act of revenge, many Israelis claimed that it could not have been done by Jews. Such an act of violent torture, they said, was what Muslims do to one another in honor killings; Jews are incapable of such things.

    The French philosopher Ernest Renan once defined a nation as “a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbors.” And while that arguably applies to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, my sense is that the deterioration we are witnessing results from something else — the growing human distance between Israelis and Palestinians who once knew each other intimately and are now virtual strangers.

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      The change has taken place over the past 10 to 15 years because it was widely felt that mixing caused trouble and the two peoples needed to be separated if they were ever to live side by side. A result, however, has been a heightened dehumanization that has allowed the murder of four teenagers to escalate in just a few days into a series of devastating Israeli airstrikes that have killed scores and Palestinian rocket attacks that have displaced thousands.

      During the 1980s and ’90s, tens of thousands of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza Strip worked in Israel. They learned Hebrew and built relations with their Israeli employers. They watched Israeli television (there was little else available), and many developed a cautious but unmistakable admiration for Israeli politics and public accountability. When Palestinians talked of building a state, it was not uncommon to hear members of their elite refer to Israel as a model. They witnessed the robust (sometimes brutal) nature of public discourse in Israel, and many liked what they saw.

      In turn, Israelis would venture on weekends into the West Bank, where they would get their cars fixed, shop for vegetables and snack on plates of unparalleled hummus. They attended weddings of their Palestinian employees and their children. Some Israelis and Palestinians even went into business together.

      The relationship between the two peoples was hardly that of equals. It had a colonial quality not unlike that along much of the American border with Mexico. But when the guy repairing your balcony did not show up for work because of a closure of the West Bank and could not earn his pay, his deprivation meant something to you, as an Israeli. You knew him; you trusted him; you knew about his family. And when you, a Palestinian worker, saw your Israeli employer’s mother growing ill, you understood his anguish. You knew the woman; you liked her.
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      When the Oslo peace process fell apart in 2000 and a Palestinian uprising erupted, the common wisdom that quickly developed was that the two nations needed not greater intimacy but complete separation. Israel built a barrier, barred most Palestinians from entering (replacing them with Asians on temporary visas) and made it illegal for Israeli citizens to enter Palestinian cities. At the same time, a movement took hold among Palestinians aimed at cutting off contact with Israelis. This has grown into what is known as boycott, divestment and sanctions, or B.D.S., which seeks to isolate Israel internationally.

      Meanwhile, the growth of Arab satellite television channels — Al Jazeera, Al Arabiya and the Lebanese Hezbollah station Al Manar — led Palestinians to stop watching Israeli TV and to identify increasingly with the broader Arab and Muslim worlds. Today in Gaza almost no one watches Israeli television and the only people who know Hebrew or know any Israelis as human beings are over 40. Moreover, the growth of the global digital economy has allowed Israel to build an economy largely separate from the nations around it. Trade with its neighbors is insignificant; it is essentially a thriving European-level economy surrounded by poverty.

      Israelis — especially in the heartland around Tel Aviv, where two-thirds of the country lives — can now go weeks without laying eyes on a Palestinian or ever having to think about one. In Gaza, Israelis do not exist except in a kind of collective nightmare. In the West Bank, the Israelis are mostly settlers and soldiers. Apart from a few pockets of industry and shopping where Palestinians are employed, interaction is highly limited.

      At the height of the peace efforts, in the 1990s, Israeli and Palestinian leaders, locked in rooms negotiating with one another, built a poignant bond and developed a form of trust that they then sought to spread — not always successfully — to their peoples.

      Yossi Beilin, then an Israeli official, and Mahmoud Abbas, who went on to become the president of the Palestinian Authority, wrote a peace plan together. In the early 2000s, Sari Nusseibeh, a Palestinian official and intellectual, joined with Ami Ayalon, a former head of the Israeli Shin Bet security services, and gathered hundreds of thousands of Palestinian and Israeli signatures for a two-state solution. They traveled together for months. They got along famously.

      The relationship between Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Mr. Abbas is one of mutual loathing, according to Martin S. Indyk, who resigned last month as American envoy for peace negotiations after nine months of futile efforts. The two sides and their leaders have become total strangers. Each vilifies the other and imagines its own people to be morally superior, forced to defend itself against the cruel predations of the other.

      A generation ago, there were plenty of causes for tension and concern. But Palestinians building what they hoped would become their state, and Israelis working with them, had an often moving sense of shared purpose. Some discovered that they liked one another and looked forward to working together. Today, those feelings are virtually dead. And while mixing the populations in those years was no panacea, divorcing them has only made things worse.

      Ethan Bronner is deputy national editor of The New York Times and a former Jerusalem bureau chief.

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  20. Separation is humanizing.

    A polite civil divorce proceeding.

    Not an Idaho County divorce, which is what we got going now.

    Dad always used to say, everyone hates the divorce lawyers, even their own clients, but they the peace.

    Arafat blew it.

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    1. keep the peace

      Advice from an old and experienced Idaho divorce lawyer.....

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    2. "-the bum who boasts that his great-grandfather was an empire-builder,

      (as if the achievement of one man could rub off on the mediocrity of another)

      -the parents who search geneological trees in order to evaluate their prospective daughter-in-law.

      These are samples of racism.

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  21. Netanyahu is a disaster. He has always been a disaster and his disastrous leadership has weakened Israel in ways that will only become more clear. His enablers in the US Christian Right and the US Conga Line are even worse.

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    1. Palestinian civilians, men, woman and children, born and unborn, are being subjected to state sponsored murder by the Israeli military using arms largely supplied by U.S. taxpayers. Israeli right-wing political cynicism is nearly surpassed by the hypocrisy of the US Christian Right.

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    2. Operation Protective Edge entered its seventh day Monday, as the IDF continued to carry out massive strikes within the Gaza Strip from land and sea, and Hamas continued to fire rockets at Israeli towns.

      In the six days of the operation, 170 Palestinians have been killed and over 1,100 have been wounded. Gaza hospitals are reporting a dire shortage of medicine and equipment, particularly for trauma injuries. Thousands of northern Gaza residents fled their homes on Sunday after Israel issued warnings of forthcoming air strikes.

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    3. in six days of Hamas's war on Israeli civilians they have launched over 800 rockets.

      They still continue to launch as we speak.

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    4. Hamas has killed over 170 palestinians so far, as all deaths are the legal responsibility of Hamas who has stored and fired rockets from civilian areas.

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  22. Whatever the Conga Line might be, Israel was not responsible for Iraq.

    It might work out to Israel's benefit, what with the Kurds, and a new Kurdistan, but they were not responsible for it, nor were involved of the planning of it, in fact an Israeli General said : " You may wish for the day of Saddam."

    Even he was wrong.

    There is no conspiracy going on here.

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  23. The working of history are not easy to see in advance.

    All one can really do is look to one's back yard, and hope for the best.

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  24. Pictures of Hindu Women

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+hindu+women&client=firefox-a&hs=RJb&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=eXXDU4j8KcLuoAS58YCgBw&ved=0CCEQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=657

    If I'm a racist, I'm glad of it.

    My Niece tells me, that upon a wedding, the Bride gets bejeweled like you would not believe. Not even in the courts of Europe is such splendor seen......

    :)

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  25. This might be close -

    https://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+hindu+women&client=firefox-a&hs=RJb&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=eXXDU4j8KcLuoAS58YCgBw&ved=0CCEQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=657

    ;)

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  26. Since we have had contributors here who have expressed wishes to lead a militia, I thought I would put up this-

    July 14, 2014
    The Myth of the Posse Comitatus Act
    By Russ Vaughan

    I recently put forth a rudimentary plan for utilization of existing military resources in stanching the flow of illegal trespassers across our southern border with Mexico. Many were the commenters who were quick to tell me that such a thing is impossible because it is proscribed by the Posse Comitatus Act. This is one of those issues that naysayers like to throw up as roadblocks to any attempts to settle the problem of rampant illegal immigration. “We can’t use the military to patrol our borders because of the Posse Comitatus Act,” they protest breathlessly with a reverence for that act that hints of constitutional origins, and therefore, sacrosanct. Well hold on, all you legal buckaroos, while we take a closer look at this statutory critter that so many profess to know and understand and are even quicker to invoke. Here it is in all its sanctity:

    Sec. 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus

    Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

    Now that’s not really all that complicated, is it? What’s not to understand? The simple legislative act says that the federal government cannot use our military forces to execute or enforce laws. The law was originally enacted by a Republican Congress as a quid pro quo to Southern Democratic congressmen whose backing was needed to decide the presidential election of Rutherford B. Hayes. Southerners were sick of the Union Army’s occupying forces’ interference in matters of local law and their representatives in Congress saw an opportunity for some horse trading. Republican supporters of Hayes agreed to the removal of federal troops from the occupied Southern states and sealed the deal with this brief bit of legislation that prohibited the use of federal troops for the purpose of enforcing civil and criminal statutes.

    So the hallowed Posse Comitatus Act was really nothing more than a clever legislative gambit by southern congressmen to get the heavy boot of northern forces off the necks of their southern constituents, a rather ignominious birth for a minor piece of legislation that is now foolishly considered Holy Writ by too many of the uninformed.

    But let’s get down to specifics; Congress, as always, covered its butt with the insertion of the weasel words:

    “…except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress,”

    Thus, in an act of Congress requiring no more than fifty-two words, that august body let itself off future hooks with that excepting phrase. And do not delude yourself into believing that was by accident. Quite obviously, the lawmaking body of this country wanted to reserve unto itself the power to use federal forces in domestic crises. It would appear then that the Posse Comitatus Act says whatever the Congress says it does. And if that Congress determines that the massive incursions on our border from Mexico constitute an exceptional threat, there is nothing in the law to prevent this nation from defending that border with the military forces necessary to do so.

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  27. Dad, who knew this stuff, always used to laugh when talk Posse Comitatus arose

    >>>> It would appear then that the Posse Comitatus Act says whatever the Congress says it does.<<<<<

    It says whatever the Congress says it does.

    And this is different from what our friends say who say it says what they say it does.

    You might get the National Guard or the Army down on your ass if you think about leading a militia from Arizona on Washington, D.C.

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    1. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/07/the_myth_of_the_posse_comitatus_act.html

      He used to laugh when talk of Posse Comitatus arose.

      He used to put his learned whiter head in the air and laugh and say 'every man is a General".

      He was a settling lawyer, in distinction of those who wished to always fight for a fee.

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    2. "-the bum who boasts that his great-grandfather was an empire-builder,

      (as if the achievement of one man could rub off on the mediocrity of another)

      -the parents who search geneological trees in order to evaluate their prospective daughter-in-law.

      These are samples of racism.”

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  28. >>>> It would appear then that the Posse Comitatus Act says whatever the Congress says it does.<<<<<

    It says whatever the Congress says it does.

    And this is different from what our friends say who say it says what they say it does.

    It doesn't.

    It says what Congress says it says.

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  29. rat has one vote, like all the rest of us.

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    1. >>>>And this is different from what our friends say who say it says what they say it does.<<<<

      This even better -

      >>>>And this is different from what our friends say who say it says what they say it says<<<<<

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    2. There is a reason Law Schools have standards.

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    3. Rat is a figment of your imaginationMon Jul 14, 07:54:00 AM EDT

      “It's all you think about, all you talk about,
      and all you want us to talk about.
      What in the world would we call something like that?
      Oh, yeah!
      An obsession!”
      ― Maggie Stiefvater,

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  30. In Jean Paul Sartre's "Being and Nothingness" there are endless turgid pages of talk in cafe French about how Consciousness always has an Object.


    It might be the refrigerator over there.

    All this talk seems impressive to the very young, until one is older, and understands that Sartre misses the point about Consciousness altogether, and is simply talking about what in Hinduism is understood as simple awareness.

    The Hindus had analyized all this many centuries ago. For them, simple Consciousness in the Sartrean sense was the very beginning of 'things'. They didn't even use that word. For them, Consciousness was something higher, a more transcendent faculty. Which would manifest with 'time'.

    They were very aware that where there is mind - awareness, consciousness, there is always matter, an object of some kind.

    They made no big deal about this. It is a beginning.

    In Sartre, there is an urge to some kind of decision of some kind. For him, it was 'the worker's paradise' --- Castro's Cuba.

    How has this worked out?

    The Hindus would laugh, if that were appropriate, at all this French non sense.

    Today, a Sartrean might take up the 'cause' of the Palestinians, for the lack of something better, like petting the dog, which makes much more human sense., or tending the farm, or helping the Niece through grad school.

    Sartre was a French idiot.

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    1. The 'cause', the Cuban Revolution, the Palestinians, was supposed to give some kind of 'meaning' to an otherwise 'absurd' existence.

      In Hinduism, this is simply schoolchildren playing on the merry go round.

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  31. My God, somebody, Please, turn this babbling fool off.

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  32. hamas ups the ante again...

    An enemy Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV), apparently laden with explosives, was shot down by the IDF near the port city of Ashdod Monday morning.
    The interception caused a strong explosion to rock Ashdod and the air raid sirens went off, at around 6:30 a.m..
    The Navy is reportedly looking for remains of the UAV.
    The IDF Spokesman said that the UAV was shot down by a Patriot missile and that it fell in an open space along the Ashdod beach.
    Mordechai Weisman, a resident of the Beit Shemesh area, told Arutz Sheva that the downing of the UAV "was accompanied by a very loud and long jet-like rumbling sound" that could be heard dozens of kilometers away.
    “I just saw and heard massive column of smoke rising from Tel Aviv / coastal area,” he told Arutz Sheva's Tamar Yonah. “It sounded as loud as a large jet engine even from here near Beit Shemesh. Like nothing we've seen before. Looking at the photo, I would say it is coming from the Ashdod area. And just for the record, it was really scary watching and listening to that. The image does not at all do it justice...”

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  33. Israeli lies as they terrorize 15,000 civilians to leave their homes and flee for their lives.

    Israel showed restraint in Gaza before attacking? You must be kidding

    Our media ingrains warped terminology that bolsters the effort to portray Israel as a victim. Here are a few examples.
    By Amira Hass | Jul. 14, 2014 | 6:32 AM


    “Gaza is an independent state.”

    It is not. It and the West Bank are a single territorial unit composed of two parts. According to the international community’s decisions, a state shall be established in these two parts, which are still under Israeli occupation, as are the Palestinians who live there.

    Gaza and the West Bank have the same international area code — 970. (The separate code is an empty gesture left over from the Oslo period. The Palestinian phone system is a branch of the Israeli one. When the Shin Bet security service calls a house in Gaza to announce that the air force is going to bomb that house, the Shin Bet doesn’t have to dial 970).

    With his colonialist guile and skills he acquired from Mapai, the precursor to Labor, Ariel Sharon removed the settlers from the Gaza Strip. Via another form of domination, he tried to cut the enclave off for good from the West Bank. The effective control of the sea, air, borders and much of Gaza remains in Israel’s hands.

    And yes, Hamas and Fatah, motivated by their factional struggle, have significantly contributed to the disconnect between the two parts. With its propaganda, Hamas has bolstered the illusion of Gaza’s “independence.”

    Meanwhile, Israel still controls the population registry for Gaza and the West Bank. Every Palestinian newborn in Gaza or the West Bank must be registered with the Israeli Interior Ministry (via the Coordination and Liaison Administration) to be able to obtain an ID card at age 16.

    The information typed into the cards is also in Hebrew. Have you ever heard of an independent state whose people must register in the “neighboring” (occupying and attacking) state — otherwise they won’t have documents and won’t officially exist?

    When experts like Giora Eiland, a retired general who helped plan the Gaza disengagement, say Gaza is an independent state that’s attacking us, they’re trying to expunge the context of this round of bloodshed. That’s a pretty easy task. Israelis have already done this.
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      “Self-defense”

      Both sides (Hamas and Israel) say they are firing in self-defense. We know that war is a continuation of politics by other means. Israel’s policy is clear (if not to consumers of Israeli media): Cut Gaza off even more, thwart any possibility of Palestinian unity and divert attention from the accelerating colonialist drive in the West Bank.

      And Hamas? It wants to boost its standing as a resistance movement after the blows it took as a governing movement. Maybe it really thinks it can change the Palestinian leadership’s entire strategy vis-a-vis the Israeli occupation. Maybe it wants the world (and the Arab states) to awaken from its slumber.

      Still, with all due respect to Clausewitz, rational calculations are not the only explanation. Let’s not forget the missile envy — whose is bigger, longer, more impressive and reaches farther? The boys play with their toys and we’ve gotten used to calling it policy.
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      “Israel has shown restraint.”

      Where does one begin to calculate restraint? Why not start with the fishermen who have been shot at, wounded and sometimes killed by the Israeli navy, even though the 2012 understandings talked about expanding the fishing zone?

      Why not with the farmers and metal scavengers near the separation barrier who have no other income and are shot at and sometimes wounded and killed by soldiers? Or the demolition of Palestinian houses supposedly for administrative reasons in the West Bank and Jerusalem?

      Don’t we call this restraint because this is violence that the Israeli media arrogantly overlooks? And why don’t we hear about the Palestinian restraint after Nadim Nawara and Mohammed Abu Dhaher were killed by Israeli soldiers at the Ofer checkpoint? “Restraint” is another term that expunges contexts and bolsters the sense of victimhood of the world’s fourth-mightiest military power.

      “Israel supplies water, electricity, food and medicine to Gaza.”

      It does not. It sells 120 megawatts of electricity at full price, at most a third of demand. The bill is deducted from the customs fees that Israel collects for goods passing through its ports destined for the occupied territories. Food and medicine that Palestinian traders buy at full price enter Gaza through the crossings under Israel’s control.

      According to the Gisha Legal Center for Freedom of Movement, in 2012, 1.3 billion shekels ($379 million) worth of Israeli products were purchased in the Gaza Strip. So Gaza is also a captive market for Israel.

      As for water, Israel has imposed an autarchic water economy on Gaza; that is, Gazans must make do with rainwater and groundwater that collects in its territory. Israel, which imposes a water quota on the Palestinians, does not let them share the West Bank’s water sources with Gaza.

      As a result, demand outstrips supply and there is over-pumping. Seawater seeps into the groundwater, as does sewage from decrepit pipelines. Ninety-five percent of Gaza’s water is not fit for drinking. And based on past agreements, Israel sells 5 million cubic meters of water to Gaza (a drop in the ocean).

      “Israel only pinpoints legitimate targets.”

      The houses of junior and senior Hamas members are being bombed — with and without children there — and the army says these are legitimate targets? Is there a Jewish home in Israel that does not shelter a commander who has helped plan or wage an offensive? Or a soldier who hasn’t shot at or will shoot at a Palestinian?

      “Hamas uses the population as human shields.”

      If I’m not mistaken, the Defense Ministry is in the heart of Tel Aviv, as is the army’s main “war room.” And what about the military training base at Glilot, near the big mall? And the Shin Bet headquarters in Jerusalem, on the edge of a residential neighborhood?

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    3. Your arguments are specious.

      But keep telling yourself them as it makes you feel better.

      But even better? Go and visit Israel and see for yourself.

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    4. The information typed into the cards is also in Hebrew. Have you ever heard of an independent state whose people must register in the “neighboring” (occupying and attacking) state — otherwise they won’t have documents and won’t officially exist?



      Arabic and Hebrew as official languages


      Israeli road signs in Arabic, Hebrew and English
      Arabic is one of Israel's official languages, and the use of Arabic increased significantly following Supreme Court rulings in the 1990s. Government ministries publish all material intended for the public in Hebrew, with selected material translated into Arabic, English, Russian, and other languages spoken in Israel. There are laws that secure the Arab population's right to receive information in Arabic. Some examples include a portion of the public television channels' productions must be in Arabic or translated into Arabic, safety regulations in working places must be published in Arabic if a significant number of the workers are Arabs, information about medicines or dangerous chemicals must be provided in Arabic, and information regarding elections must be provided in Arabic. The country's laws are published in Hebrew, and eventually English and Arabic translations are published.[60] Publishing the law in Hebrew in the official gazette (Reshumot) is enough to make it valid. Unavailability of an Arabic translation can be regarded as a legal defense only if the defendant proves he could not understand the meaning of the law in any conceivable way. Following appeals to the Israeli Supreme Court, the use of Arabic on street signs and labels increased dramatically. In response to one of the appeals presented by Arab Israeli organizations,[which?] the Supreme Court ruled that although second to Hebrew, Arabic is an official language of the State of Israel, and should be used extensively. Today most highway signage is trilingual (Hebrew, Arabic, and English).

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    5. Your arguments are racist.

      Only the "Gay Tourist" is wanted in Israel.

      Which is why Robert Peterson is planning to take a trip there.

      Tel Aviv devotes about $100,000 — more than a third of its international marketing budget — to drawing gay tourists. Though no exact figures exist, officials estimate that tens of thousands of gay tourists from abroad arrive annually.

      "We are trying to create a model for openness, pluralism, tolerance," Tel Aviv Mayor Ron Huldai told The Associated Press. "Live and let live — this is the city of Tel Aviv."

      The city's first openly gay-owned hotel was opened recently and numerous city-backed travel sites direct gay visitors to the hottest clubs, bars and resorts in town.

      "We've long recognized the economic potential of the gay community.
      The gay tourist is a quality tourist, who spends money and sets trends," said Pini Shani, a Tourism Ministry official who has been involved in the campaign. "There's also no doubt that a tourist who's had a positive experience here is of PR value. If he leaves satisfied, he becomes an Israeli ambassador of good will."



      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/tel-aviv-emerges-top-gay-tourist-destination

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    The ECB president’s newest stimulus tool will boost credit while keeping the financial system flushed with cash, economists say

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    BREAKING: For the first time in History Israel is attacked from 4 fronts on same day, Sinai, Lebanon, Syria, and Gaza.

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