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Tuesday, December 31, 2013

For 2014 Democrats are getting Smarter and Republicans are Getting Dumber

Percentage of Republicans who believe in evolution is shrinking
A Pew study finds that the percentage of Republicans who believe that Darwin's theory of evolution is correct has dropped 11 percent in about five years. That is suggestive of the country's broader polarization, the authors say. 
By Harry BruiniusStaff writer / December 31, 2013

In another sign of the deep and growing partisan divide, American views on evolution are growing apart, as well. Less than five years ago, 54 percent of Republicans and nearly two-thirds of Democrats said the human species evolved over time. Today, however, the share of Republicans adhering to modern theories of human evolution has dropped significantly – to 43 percent – while the number of Democrats has climbed to 67 percent, though within the sampling error range, according to a Pew Research Center study of the public’s views of human evolution, released Monday.
"The gap is coming from the Republicans, where fewer are now saying that humans have evolved over time," said Cary Funk, a senior researcher at the Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project, according to Reuters.
As a whole, 6 of 10 Americans say they believe that “humans and other living things have evolved over time,” with a third rejecting evolution altogether, saying that “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time.”
And while the views of most sub-groups have remained relatively unchanged since 2009, the change among those identifying themselves as Republicans is somewhat curious.
Even when Pew researchers attempted to factor out the influence of education, race, and levels of religious commitment, the poll still showed a spike in partisan differences.
"It's an intriguing finding that is suggestive of greater polarization," said Mr. Funk, who conducted the analysis of the poll, according to NBC news.
When Pew began to measure differences in how those in each party feels about certain value-oriented questions in 1987, the average gap between Democrats and Republicans was 10 points. By 2012, this difference was 18 points.
And these differences have grown mostly during the Bush and Obama presidencies. Until 2002, the average difference in values fluctuated between 9 and 11 points. This jumped to 14 points in 2003, however, then up to 16 points in 2009, and then 18 points in 2012. The poll had asked the same questions in the same way for 25 years, Pew researchers say.
Those with the most pronounced skeptical views on human evolution remain white evangelical Protestants, who are a potent force in conservative politics and a key base of support for the tea party movement.
“God's word is true. I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell," said tea party Rep. Paul Broun (R) of Georgia in a 2012 speech. “It's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
Almost two-thirds of white evangelical Protestants say humans existed in their present form since the beginning of time, while nearly 8 in 10 “mainline” Protestants believe in evolution. In fact, though half of black Protestants are skeptical of human evolution, no other religious group in the country has a majority doubting human evolution.
Scholars point out, too, that Darwinism was one of the galvanizing issues in the evolution of contemporary evangelical Protestantism. As Protestants began to grapple with a changing modern world in the early 20th century, “mainline” and Evangelical divisions began.
In a series of essays called “The Fundamentals” from 1910 to 1915, conservative Presbyterians, mostly, railed against the “decadence of Darwinism” and modern scholarship. The term “fundamentalism,” now used as a fungible catch-all for most any conservative religious group, derives from these famous tracts.

And after the Scopes trial in 1925, which began to turn public opinion toward the acceptance of teaching evolution, conservative evangelicals were not a major force in public up to the 1970s, reemerging with the election of Ronald Reagan and becoming one of the more significant forces in American politics.

155 comments:

  1. Roberto - el Loco CagaderoTue Dec 31, 04:52:00 PM EST

    Now that is Funny!

    I don't care who you are, the Republicans are acting like ...

    .... Clowns!


    * RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

    Don't we all see the humor?


    The First Lady was observing a children's program at the farm when she spotted Farmer Bob
    sitting in a field of arugula, whispering to the greens.

    Impressed by Farmer Bob's eccentric and gentle organic practices,
    she decided to invite him on as the official gardener at the White House.

    “I'm excited to start something new on a smaller scale, Farmer Bob explained. “
    The President and First Lady have expressed a lot of interest in my new, experimental growing practices.

    Also, to become more connected to his new environment,

    Farmer Bob decided to legally change his name to Farmer O-Bob-ma,



    http://www.greatperformances.com/the-dish/farmer-bob-becomes-official-white-house-garden-farmer#sthash.aKk1XmNx.dpuf


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    1. Roberto - el Loco CagaderoTue Dec 31, 04:54:00 PM EST


      Send in the Clowns

      A fine rendition, by Judy Collins.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5os4NFeKFFs


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  2. How much do we spend a year on public education?

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    1. To much on Democratic Teacher's Unions.

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    2. His own chocolate center has filled up with poison,
      the roses he gave her all twisted black

      After the Kiss

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  3. Borderland Beat Reporter ValorxTruthTue Dec 31, 05:04:00 PM EST


    Uprising Of Churumuco;
    the Self-Defense Movement Continues

    How Churumuco Rose Up In Arms


    By: Charbell Lucio

    Churumuco, Michoacán—
    The General Council of the Self-Defense Groups, led by Dr. José Mireles Valverde,
    attested on Sunday morning the armed uprising and the emergence of a new self-defense group
    in the municipality of Churumuco in Michoacán.

    This occurs, just after December 20th when the leader of the self-defense movement in Michoacán
    said that the movement will continue to expand and that they’ll support all the municipalities in the state
    who want to “uprise” against organized crime.


    It was on Sunday, with the presence of local leaders from Tepalcatepec, Buenavista and Aguililla,
    led by Mireles Valverde, when citizens of Churumuco gathered in the courtyard of the city hall where they were invited to join the newly formed self-defense group.


    There, the doctor said that there are three other municipalities in sight:
    Huetamo, Nueva Italia and Apatzingán.
    Meanwhile in the long term they also contemplate to reach the state capital, Morelia.



    Even though the governor, Fausto Vallejo,
    has previously said that the expansion of the self-defense movement will not be permitted,
    the leader assures that there is no will by the government to stop them,
    or to guarantee the safety of the people in arms.


    Contrary to what is said by the governor,
    the phenomenon has spread to nearly 60 communities
    throughout dozens of municipalities in the Tierra Caliente region in Michoacán.




    Churumuco, as well as Zicuirán and Chaus, villages of the municipality of La Huacana,
    and San Juan Nuevo of the municipality of Parangaricutiro,
    are the most recent or “the latest territories liberated of organized crime”.

    To date, the list of municipalities liberated are:
    Buenavista Tomatlán,
    Tepalcatepec,
    Aguililla, Aquila,
    Coalcomán,
    Chinicuila,
    Los Reyes,
    Tancítaro,
    La Huacana,
    and Vista Hermosa.

    However, it is known that groups of armed civilians maintain their presence
    in at least three more municipalities where they are ready to uprise at any time.

    In addition, the aim is to extend the movement to the municipalities of
    Apatzingán, Múgica, Nueva Italia, Ario de Rosales and Morelia.


    http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/12/uprising-of-churumuco-self-defense.html

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  4. Deuce, which is really dumber......think now.....think carefully before you mock you believing brothers and sisters......

    To believe in creationism, or to believe in a benevolent government ??

    eh?

    ;)

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    1. Angels or Bureaucrats, the same number can dance on the head of a pin ...

      ... head.


      bob

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    2. All this creationism vs. evolution is a fool's false dilemma anyway.

      Next topic, please.

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    4. That is my choice? That is your logic? I have to believe in one of them?

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    5. Wrong, ratbrainpinhead.

      Angels, being spiritual beings take up no space so any number could dance on the head of a pin.

      Bureaucrats, being embodied beings, and large ones too........it would be tough for even one to dance on the head of a pin.

      See: Mortimer Adler for a discussion of this issue.

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    6. Roberto - el Loco CagaderoTue Dec 31, 05:32:00 PM EST


      Oh, Mortimer is n expert on angels, is he?
      heh, heh, heh, that is a funny name, Mortimer, and what would make him an expert on angels?

      An intense study of fiction?

      The level of absurdity you attempt to propagate is immense, while you speak gibberish to adults.
      Mortimer, you need to get serious Farmer O-Bob-ma, before you die.



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    7. Roberto - el Loco CagaderoTue Dec 31, 05:35:00 PM EST

      Take heed,
      Never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
      John Donne



      Western Nevada County has lost a major contributor to its agricultural vitality.

      Bob Bobertson, 56, better known as Farmer Bob,
      owner of Farmer Bob’s produce stand in Grass Valley,
      died of an apparent heart attack on Saturday afternoon.

      He was helping a customer load a Christmas tree onto a vehicle when he abruptly passed out,
      said Steven Sears, his childhood friend.

      An employee at the produce stand,
      located behind The Union office off Sutton Way at the end of Olympia Park Circle,
      performed CPR until paramedics arrived.

      The emergency responders were unable to resuscitate him, Sears said.


      http://www.theunion.com/news/9264872-113/bob-farmer-keyser-produce

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  5. Bob, do you believe in gravity? Perhaps you could evaluate whether the Theory of Gravity is correct by simply jumping off a building. For the most convincing results, choose a tall one.

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    1. O join me Jenny dear, join me please, we will jump off together, hand in hand, "we are all doomed and we all deserve to be doomed" anyway, and we shall see if either of us falls faster !!

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    2. George S. Patton Jr.Tue Dec 31, 05:38:00 PM EST



      “Anyone in any walk of life who is content with mediocrity is untrue to himself and to American tradition.”

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    3. Einstein understood the flaws with his gravitational model. For one, his model is not compatible with Quantum Mechanics. Scientists attempt to create models that will give the best explanation of reality based on the information and technology available at a given time. Thus, science is a field for the bones of outdated hypotheses and theories.

      Einstein's theories work out just fine in a very limited context. The do work at the event horizon of a black hole, for example.

      Neo-Darwinianism came into being for a reason: Darwin needed revision in light of new information.

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    4. Bob said, we shall see if either of us falls faster !!

      Brilliant! That is one of the flaws being examined by physicists. Mass should affect the acceleration constant of gravitation.

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    5. A plan, especially a very focused one,
      narrows down the possibilities of the future to just a couple of things:
      that things either go to plan, or they don't.”


      ― John C. Parkin, Fuck It: The Ultimate Spiritual Way

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  6. Deuce you don't have to believe in either.

    I simply asked of those two options, which do you think is the dumber belief?

    Surely we can agree some beliefs are dumber than others?

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    1. Raised on a cotton farm in rural Georgia,
      as many white/negro families did to make a meager living,
      my daddy had a saying.

      'All a poor man has is his good name and good credit.
      God help him if he looses either of those.'

      I still believe that.

      ― Susan Ethridge, Murder in Cleveland, Ga

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    2. OK, I’ll bite:

      Believing in benevolent government is naively optimistic. It is built on hope and a relatively short time line of personal experience.

      Believing in creationism and rejecting evolution is being blind to nature and experience. It is accepting something built on myth instead of science and objective observation. Nothing in nature, rational observation or scientific discovery contradicts evolution.

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  7. Believing in the humanitarian instincts of the "Palestinians", the Iranians, and moslems in general is a really really dumb belief.

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    1. The kind of belief a Jenny might hold, like believing we all deserve to be doomed.

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    2. “The doom lies in yourself, not in your name.”


      ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Children of Húrin

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  8. ratasswhackopath doesn't believe he is a professional asshole, he KNOWS he is a professional asshole, and is proud of it.

    Out for the rest of the day and evening........heading to New Year's Eve get togethers......

    Happy New Year to most of you......

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    1. For if life had taught him anything,
      it was that healing and peace can begin only with acknowledgment of wrongs committed.”

      ― Susan Abulhawa

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  9. US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years

    “10-20-Life” (Florida Statute 775.087) is a controversial Florida law under which Giles and Alexander were sentenced.

    It confers a minimum sentence of 10 years for a felony conviction where a firearm is merely brandishing.

    Firing the gun adds another 10 years – even if no one was hit, as was the case with Alexander. And, if someone is hit, the shooter necessarily faces 25 years to life in prison.


    Suddenly, he says, someone from the crowd punched him. Knocked to the ground and in fear for his life, Giles says he pulled out the gun and fired one shot into the leg of his alleged attacker.

    Three men were injured, wounded by bullet fragments. Giles was immediately arrested and charged with second-degree attempted murder.

    Aside from his having no criminal background, Giles’ supporters argue that he was merely defending himself from an unprovoked attack.

    In fact, when testifying in the case, the man who punched Giles, Courtney Thrower, admitted that the assault was random. “The first person I get to I’m going to hit,” he remembered thinking.

    Other witnesses testified that Thrower, having heard of an attack on one of his fraternity brothers, was outside of the nightclub pacing with his fists clenched and, in the middle of the brawl, “leapfrogged” from the crowd to hit Giles. Despite all of that, according to the Florida state prosecutors, Giles had no right to use deadly force that night.

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    1. No doubt blacks will be comforted to know that Zimmerman runs free, and this Airman gets 25 years for wounding someone in the leg after being punched to the ground.

      Florida!

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    2. “A prosthetic leg with a Willie Nelson bumper sticker washed ashore on the beach, which meant it was Florida.


      Then it got weird.


      - Pineapple Grenade -

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    3. A week passed, and Jean Valjean had not taken a step in his room.
      He still remained in bed.
      The portress said to her husband:–
      "The good man upstairs yonder does not get up, he no longer eats, he will not last long.
      That man has his sorrows, that he has.
      You won't get it out of my head that his daughter has made a bad marriage."


      The porter replied, with the tone of marital sovereignty:

      "If he's rich, let him have a doctor.
      If he is not rich, let him go without.
      If he has no doctor he will die."


      "And if he has one?"


      "He will die," said the porter.


      ― Victor Hugo, Les Misérables

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    4. Man shot after performing forced fellatio

      LOUISVILLE, KY- A man faces multiple charges after forcing another man to perform sexual favors on him at gunpoint.

      According to police reports, Anton L. Malone, 19, forced the victim to perform oral sex on him twice at gunpoint before opening fire on him.

      The man was coerced into these sexual acts twice and shot twice in the leg behind the Jefferson Community Technical building late Friday night.

      According to arrest records, Malone also unsuccessfully attempted to sodomize the victim.

      Malone is being charged with first-degree sodomy and second-degree assault.

      Justice in Amerika.

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  10. He said it hit him travelling one time in the year or so before he met my mother.

    Whatever country of the world it was, the poor were starting to look alike, live alike, eat alike,
    and dress alike in the same kind of clothes all made in the same part of China.

    To him, it was a sign that the people had got severed from the land.

    ― Marcel Theroux, Far North

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  11. Disaster is not necessary;

    the better world could be achieved through reason and common sense and a sense of fellowship -
    - but most of the present human world is dead set against us.

    Thus I was forced to the disagreeable resolutions (not solutions)
    which I attempted to sketch out in the novel 'Good News.'

    The title is of course deliberately ambiguous.

    ― Edward Abbey, Postcards from Ed: Dispatches and Salvos from an American Iconoclast

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  12. This array suggested a bigger, underlying dysfunction, and Ioannidis thought he knew what it was. “The studies were biased,” he says. “Sometimes they were overtly biased. Sometimes it was difficult to see the bias, but it was there.” Researchers headed into their studies wanting certain results—and, lo and behold, they were getting them. We think of the scientific process as being objective, rigorous, and even ruthless in separating out what is true from what we merely wish to be true, but in fact it’s easy to manipulate results, even unintentionally or unconsciously. “At every step in the process, there is room to distort results, a way to make a stronger claim or to select what is going to be concluded,” says Ioannidis. “There is an intellectual conflict of interest that pressures researchers to find whatever it is that is most likely to get them funded.”

    Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science

    Perhaps only a minority of researchers were succumbing to this bias, but their distorted findings were having an outsize effect on published research. To get funding and tenured positions, and often merely to stay afloat, researchers have to get their work published in well-regarded journals, where rejection rates can climb above 90 percent. Not surprisingly, the studies that tend to make the grade are those with eye-catching findings...

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    1. From threatening to "End Western Civilization" to ...
      ... fabricating false headings on a "Cut & Paste"


      How the 'mighty' have fallen!

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    2. As allen knows only too well ...

      ... the studies that tend to make the grade are those with eye-catching findings...

      Israel Pays Students For Pro-Israeli Social Media Propaganda

      When reality does not fit the story, forgery is kosher!

      "allen's laws": "When a Israel is reduced to selling its women, it's kosher!"


      b.o.b.


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  13. Robert G. IngersollTue Dec 31, 10:06:00 PM EST

    Not one word was said by Moses or Aaron as to the wickedness of depriving a human being of his liberty.

    Not a word was said in favor of liberty.
    Not the slightest intimation that a human being was justly entitled to the product of his own labor.
    Not a word about the cruelty of masters who would destroy even the babes of slave mothers.

    It seems to me wonderful that this God did not tell the king of Egypt that no nation could enslave another,
    without also enslaving itself; that it was impossible to put a chain around the limbs of a slave,
    without putting manacles upon the brain of the master.

    Why did he not tell him that a nation founded upon slavery could not stand?
    Instead of declaring these things, instead of appealing to justice,
    to mercy and to liberty, he resorted to feats of jugglery.

    Suppose we wished to make a treaty with a barbarous nation,
    and the president should employ a sleight-of-hand performer as envoy extraordinary,
    and instruct him, that when he came into the presence of the savage monarch,
    he should cast down an umbrella or a walking stick,
    which would change into a lizard or a turtle; what would we think?

    Would we not regard such a performance as beneath the dignity even of a president?
    And what would be our feelings if the savage king sent for his sorcerers and had them perform the same feat?

    If such things would appear puerile and foolish in the president of a great republic,
    what shall be said when they were resorted to by the creator of all worlds?

    How small, how contemptible such a God appears!”

    ― Robert G. Ingersoll, Some Mistakes of Moses

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  14. Much to the consternation of the "non-believers in Evolution," 9.2 Million Americans will awake with Health Insurance, tomorrow.

    We're making progress against the cretins, slow and unsteady as it is.

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    1. Private Insurance: Best Medical Outcomes
      No Insurance: 2nd Best
      Medicaid: Worse than No Insurance!

      Expanding Medicaid Reduces Access to Medical Care

      How would your business have run, Rufus if you got paid half as much as you did?

      That's what Medicaid Pays Doctors.

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    2. You can't possibly be so stupid as to not see the holes in that nonsense.

      Enjoy your Medicare, asshole.

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    3. Great argument.

      A study published in Annals of Surgery by a group of surgeons at the University of Virginia, entitled “Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality for Major Surgical Operations.”

      The study evaluated 893,658 major surgical operations occurring between 2003 and 2007, stratified by primary payer status, on three outcomes endpoints: in-hospital mortality, length of stay, and total costs incurred.

      Despite the fact that the authors controlled for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, Medicaid fared poorly compared to those with private insurance, Medicare, and even the uninsured.

      Relative to those with private insurance, Medicare, uninsured, and Medicaid patients were 45%, 74%, and 97% more likely to die in the hospital post-operatively.

      The average length of stay for private, Medicare, uninsured, and Medicaid patients was 7.38, 8.77, 7.01, and 10.49 days, respectively. Total costs per patient were $63,057, $69,408, $65.667, and $79,140 respectively.

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    4. A study of 900,000 operations by surgeons is nonsense.

      You did not answer how your business would have done if the socialists had stepped in and reduced your income by 50 percent.

      That's what they require of Doctors under Medicaid.

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    5. Doctors aren't required to take Medicaid, asshole.

      Which is probably why those that are so poor as to need Medicaid do not receive the treatment they should, which leads to diseases reaching an advanced stage before treatment/surgery is performed - which, of course, leads to much inferior outcomes.

      As I said, go fuck yourself, and enjoy your government paid-for Medicare.

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    6. So If 7 Million more people are on Medicaid, as you boast above, and they have access to fewer doctors, how is that a great thing to boast about?

      If you can get the Social Security taxes we paid for 66 years back for me, I'll self insure.

      Answer: You business would have been shit had your income been reduced by 50 percent.

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    7. "That's what they require of Doctors under Medicaid."

      Is not "Doctors are required to take Medicaid"

      To most English Speakers.

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    8. Only Four Million are going on Medicaid, and, despite the misrepresentation in the so-called "study," Medicaid is much better than No Care.

      The answer, of course, is to vote the worthless, bible-thumping republicans out of office, and increase the payments for Medicaid.

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    9. I speak "English;" I just don't speak "stupidity, and hatred."

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    10. "56 years" (Paying SS Taxes)

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    11. Yep, I've spewed stupidity and hatred today, and you have spread Peace and Love.

      ...and denied the reality that more people on Medicaid is not a good thing.

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    12. Lots of Fuck Yous, few facts.

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    13. "The answer, of course, is to vote the worthless, bible-thumping republicans out of office, and increase the payments for Medicaid."

      Of course.

      Not

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    14. “Impossibility only lasts until you find new unbelievable hard evidences.”

      ― Toba Beta

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  15. The history of man proves that religion perverts man's concept of life and the universe,
    and has made him a cringing coward before the blind forces of nature.

    If you believe that there is a God; that man was "created";
    that he was forbidden to eat of the fruit of the "tree of knowledge";
    that he disobeyed; that he is a "fallen angel";
    that he is paying the penalty for his "sins,"

    then you devote your time praying to appease an angry and jealous God.

    If, on the other hand, you believe that the universe is a great mystery;
    that man is the product of evolution;
    that he is born without knowledge;
    that intelligence comes from experience,
    then you devote your time and energies to improving his condition
    with the hope of securing a little happiness here for yourself and your fellow man.

    That is the difference.
    If man was "created," then someone made a grievous mistake.

    ― Joseph Lewis, An Atheist Manifesto

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    1. As long as there is one person suffering an injustice;
      as long as one person is forced to bear an unnecessary sorrow;
      as long as one person is subject to an undeserved pain,
      the worship of a God is a demoralizing humiliation.

      As long as there is one mistake in the universe;
      as long as one wrong is permitted to exist;
      as long as there is hatred and antagonism among mankind,
      the existence of a God is a moral impossibility.

      Ingersoll said:
      'Injustice upon earth renders the justice of of heaven impossible.'

      ― Joseph Lewis, An Atheist Manifesto

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    2. Religion will be the death of us all.

      Somebody - maybe it was me.

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  16. A skeptical man with a credo, 'Seeing is believing'.
    One day he found something so alien and said,
    'I can't believe what I just saw'.

    Then the other man with different credo,
    'Blessed are they who believe without seeing'.
    One day he found something so alien and said,
    'This is blasphemy, sinful and evil'.

    ― Toba Beta, My Ancestor Was an Ancient Astronaut

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    1. Happy New Year, Deuce, and those other of you of good will.

      The rest, go fuck yourselves.

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    2. The Ten unhealthiest states are Red States, ranking high on the "religiosity" scale.

      The Ten Healthiest states are Blue States, ranking lower on the bible-thump index.

      Explain to me why a lower income white man will vote for a republican, and I'll explain why religion is going to fuck us all in the end.

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    3. :-)
      Shoot me in my legs when you're done, please.

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    4. They say you fear what you don't understand.
      Maybe that's why every time I'm in South Florida,
      and I hear someone talking in Spanish, I always shit my pants.

      ― Jarod Kintz, It Occurred to Me

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  17. People have been writing shit down for, what, 4 or 5 thousand years? And, no evidence, yet, that people have changed a whit in all that time - and, now, they have the H Bomb? Good Luck, assholes.

    We Didn't Start the Fire

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    1. The best defense against the atom bomb is not to be there when it goes off.

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  18. Republicans have a lot of tiny indefensible hills to die on. Creationism is just one of them.

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  19. “Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke.

    They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing.

    They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights.

    They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better.

    They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools.

    They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them.

    They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off.

    They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people.

    And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.”


    ― Harry S. Truman

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  20. “The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer,
    and remove the crabgrass on your lawn.

    The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.”

    ― P.J. O'Rourke, Parliament of Whores: A Lone Humorist Attempts to Explain the Entire U.S. Government

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  21. Happy New Year folks!

    May 2014 bring you peace of mind and comfort in your hearts,

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    1. For those of you that already do have that, I wish you Joy

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  22. Happy New Year from Paradise, one of the last ones.

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    1. 5 am Eastern, 2 am Pacific

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    2. Doug you don't need to rub it in, the whole paradise thing, when our temperatures here are approaching a high of 19 degrees on Friday.

      Happy New Year

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    3. Wow, where are you?

      We're expecting the low to be a chilly 66!

      I was just complaining about having to wait so much longer for 2014.

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  23. From the article

    the percentage of Republicans who believe that Darwin's theory of evolution is correct has dropped 11 percent...
    Darwinism and "modern theories of evolution" are not identities.

    54 percent of Republicans and nearly two-thirds of Democrats said the human species evolved over time.
    "Two-thirds" is, numerically, 66.666... percent, or rounded, 67%.

    the share of Republicans adhering to modern theories of human evolution has dropped significantly – to 43 percent – while the number of Democrats has climbed to 67 percent, though within the sampling error range...
    "Modern theories of human evolution" differ from those of Darwin. The number of Democrats has not "climbed", since 67% and 67% are identities.

    When Pew began to measure differences in how those in each party feels about certain value-oriented questions in 1987, the average gap between Democrats and Republicans was 10 points. By 2012, this difference was 18 points.
    When did evolution become a measurement of value (a person's principles or standards of behavior; one's judgment of what is important in life)?

    conservative evangelicals were not a major force in public up to the 1970s,
    The South used to be a bastion of Democrat Party politics. Most of the South espoused Bible Belt values. Consequently, the South (and its Bible thumping) was integral to Democrat electoral success.

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  24. Just got in. Hell of a good time. Best ever.

    Would someone give Rufus a blow job? He's been begging for one for months and months, years really.

    Start his New Year with a bang.

    ;)

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    1. I wish everyone a good year, except whackorat. I just don't have that much goodwill left in me.

      Melody too. Have a great year.

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    2. “At this very moment enormous numbers of intelligent men and women of goodwill are trying to build a better world. But Fudds are born faster than they can be killed.”

      ― B.F. Skinner, Walden Two

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  25. By the way, the question about evolution or creation is entirely wrongly put.

    The Hindus accept both. Their time span being......well really really long, like always.....there is always evolution, there is always creation....


    And I doubt the folks who put the Jewish Bible together were counting the days from Adam and Eve.

    Recall that underneath the popular story there lurks the old conception of a different understanding of time.

    As shown in the ages of the patriarchs.

    That number 432, 4320, 43200 etc comes from the earlier watchers of the stars.

    They were not thinking in terms of a little bitty time ago......

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    1. You are a complete and utter idiot.

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  26. Allen Asserted:

    "Modern theories of human evolution" differ from those of Darwin. The number of Democrats has not "climbed", since 67% and 67% are identities."

    ...and asked:

    "When did evolution become a measurement of value (a person's principles or standards of behavior; one's judgment of what is important in life)?"

    ---

    Modern theories of evolution are promoted by loudmouthed committed Atheists like Dawkins.

    Dawkins is a mental midget compared to Darwin.

    ---

    Was Darwin a creationist?

    Throughout the Origin of Species, Darwin contrasts his theory of natural selection with the theory that God independently created each species. This makes it seem as though the Origin offers a scientific alternative to a theological worldview. A few months after the Origin appeared, however, the eminent anatomist Richard Owen published a review that pointed out the theological assumptions of Darwin's theory.

    Owen worked in the tradition of rational morphology, within which one might suggest that evolution occurs by processes that are continuous with those by which life arises from matter; in contrast, Darwin rested his account of life's origins on the notion that God created one or a few life forms upon which natural selection could act.

    Owen argued that Darwin's reliance on God to explain the origins of life makes his version of evolution no less supernatural than the special creationist that Darwin criticizes: although Darwin limits God to one or a few acts of creation, he still relies upon God to explain life's existence.

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    1. Darwin never claimed to be able to explain the origin of life.

      Semi-educated products of NEA "Educators" equate science and Darwinism with an explanation of the origin of life.
      Darwin made no such claim.

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    2. The Synagogue LadyWed Jan 01, 08:40:00 AM EST


      Unless one could explain the origin of G-d, the origin of life would still remain a mystery, even if it was G-d that had created it.

      The answer to the mystery of the creation of life cannot be answered with a further mystery into the creation of G-d.

      There is life, of that we are all evidence of.
      That life is not evidence of G-d.

      If there is a G-d, where and how was G-d created?

      Therein lies the secret to the creation of life.

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    3. “In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”

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    4. Christopher HitchensWed Jan 01, 08:52:00 AM EST


      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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    5. :-)
      That was always a good enough reason for me to create explosions of my own.

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    6. The Kid has this Douglas Adam's quote at the top of his Facebook Page:

      "IN THE BEGINNING THE UNIVERSE WAS CREATED

      This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move."

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    7. Darwin's father the really interesting fellow in the family.

      Among other things, Darwin was unaware of continental plate tectonics and genetics. He also believed in an infinite universe that had always existed. There is no question of his genius, just the many facts unknown to him.

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    8. …the Genesis story is just one that happened to have been adopted by one particular tribe of Middle Eastern herders. It has no more special status than the belief of a particular West African tribe that the world was created from the excrement of ants.”

      ― Richard Dawkins,
      The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design

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    9. “We cannot fathom the marvelous complexity of an organic being;
      but on the hypothesis here advanced this complexity is much increased.

      Each living creature must be looked at as a microcosm--a little universe, formed of a host of self-propagating organisms, inconceivably minute and as numerous as the stars in heaven.”

      ― Charles Darwin

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    10. Allen:

      A big difference between Darwin and Dawkins was Darwin's humility with regard to his (our) Ignorance:

      "Darwin was convinced that there was a system for generating variety which was non-random, 'I have hitherto sometimes spoken as if variations were due to chance.
      This, of course, is a wholly incorrect expression, but it serves to acknowledge plainly our ignorance of the cause of variation.' At many points in his book he admits to this missing link in his theory. In chapter five for example he refers to ' a tendency to vary, due to causes of which we are quite ignorant.'

      He coins the term 'generative variability' to emphasize his belief in the existence of laws of variety-generation and talks of 'an innate tendency to new variations.' But he admits that 'Our ignorance of the laws of variation is profound'. He is convinced that 'There must be some efficient cause for each slight individual difference.' When discussing the evolution of instincts he speaks of 'variations produced by the same unknown causes which produce slight deviations of bodily structure.'"

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    13. "...admitting his (Their) ignorance of the existence of, and necessity for Genetics"

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  27. Has everyone viewed the video in my "Population Density" post above?

    It should not be missed - Hilarious and almost unbelievable.

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  28. I don't get all this talk about 'the origin of life'. There is now, always has been, and always will be an universe.

    Where there's matter there is mind, obscured.

    The old gal creates continually, there is always evolution, always has been, always will be. Evolution is a gradual release of consciousness.

    Karma is real. It's a steep climb.

    But -

    "My true self runs towards a hill, more, o more visible."

    Roethke

    "The dove flies through the darkness, and the darkness always recedes, and that darkness is the mystery of God."

    Greg of Nyssa

    There's always something more....

    What could be simpler?

    "Death is different than anyone supposed, and luckier."

    Walt Whitman

    But I repeat myself. I recall mentioning it before.....

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    1. Impressed by Farmer Bob's eccentric and gentle organic practices,
      she decided to invite him on as the official gardener at the White House.

      “I'm excited to start something new on a smaller scale, Farmer Bob explained. “
      The President and First Lady have expressed a lot of interest in my new, experimental growing practices.

      Also, to become more connected to his new environment,
      Farmer Bob decided to legally change his name to Farmer O-Bob-ma,


      http://www.greatperformances.com/the-dish/farmer-bob-becomes-official-white-house-garden-farmer#sthash.aKk1XmNx.dpuf

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    2. Somethings bear repeating, Bob. Happy New Year. The new physics has, for the past decade, been undergoing a soul searching. Many young scientists are moving physics into the metaphysical.

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    3. As to universals, every village must have its idiot.

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    4. Knowing that we all are in that category from time to time, we just don't indulge ourselves in it as our profession.

      As do The Professionals

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    1. At 08:26:00 AM EST, Doug asked, where are you to have a high of 19 degrees?

      I'd really like to know, since our klow, is 66.

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    2. It's about minus 15 degrees where I am in Minnesoooooota, ya'don'cha knooow.

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  30. What Democrats and republicans believe about spiritual matters doesn't concern me.

    What they believe about government and the ways they grow it, does.

    If we evolved from apes, than why are there still apes that haven't evolved?

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    1. We didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from the cousins of apes.

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    2. They've yet to invent Big Government.

      That's a necessity for progress.

      Just ask Rufus.

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    3. (the "cousins" had Big Government
      ...in his mind.)

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    4. Oh, wait, no, I forgot; we were created from whole cloth, 6,000 years ago, by a harp-playing, blood-thirsty, psychopathic asshole that sits in the clouds, and keeps a list (checking it twice.)

      How silly of me.

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    5. Of course, our progenitors wouldn't have been Social animals. Reason dictates that they fought those lions, and tigers on their own. How could anyone imagine otherwise?

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    6. :)
      I can't be at all certain of anything that I have not personally witnessed.
      But what I have witnessed, personally, is the word made flesh.

      Darwin's theory in no way prepared me for that which I experienced.
      The teachings of the New Testament did.

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    7. Right.
      Therefore they had to be advocates of Big Government.

      Not

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    8. Why do all "religious" people ignore the Old Testament?

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    9. (reply was for Rufie, but Doug cut in on Doug)

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    10. Big Federal Government is the only protection we have against The Beasts!

      Rufus tells us so.

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    11. That's almost Biblical, ain't it?

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    12. Big Government is The Beast of our time.

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    13. Says the asshole that's been benefitting from it his entire life (and, is now comfortably drawing his Social Security, and Medicare.)

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    14. Actually, no, the Federal Government was quite small back when Ike was president, and today's schools are a shadow of what they were then.

      "is now comfortably drawing his Social Security, and Medicare"

      Want to bet which would add up to more, an Investment Account for all we paid in taxes, or the trickle I get in Social Security?

      I've yet to get Medicare, so I'm not abusing myself much these days, to avoid a catastrophic visit to the hospital.

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    15. Somehow, decisions were superior when arrived at locally rather than at Big Gov Central DC.

      What a Concept!

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    16. You're as full of shit as a Christmas turkey. If you're 65 you have Medicare.

      When your mind starts to slip you need to cut back on the lies; they get harder, and harder to keep track of.

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    17. Rufus IIWed Jan 01, 09:54:00 AM EST
      Why do all "religious" people ignore the Old Testament?


      Hmm...Jews use only the "Old Testament"; therefore, they are not religious people?

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  31. Why do all "religious" people ignore the Old Testament?

    I'm not religious.
    I don't attend a church.
    I've never had my children baptized.
    I'm the least religious person that I can think of.

    I don't take the word of the New Testament as complete Truth.

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    1. I must have misconstrued this:

      "But what I have witnessed, personally, is the word made flesh."

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    2. 1
      1 Kings (1 Samuel) 14:33
      Nuntiaverunt autem Sauli dicentes quod populus peccasset Domino, comedens cum sanguine. Qui ait: Praevaricati estis: volvite ad me jam nunc saxum grande.

      2
      Job 14:18
      Mons cadens defluit, et saxum transfertur de loco suo:

      3
      Proverbs 27:3
      Grave est saxum, et onerosa arena, sed ira stulti utroque gravior.

      4
      1 Machabees 10:73
      Et nunc quomodo poteris sustinere equitatum et exercitum tantum in campo, ubi non est lapis, neque saxum, neque locus fugiendi?

      5
      Matthew 27:60
      Et posuit illud in monumento suo novo, quod exciderat in petra. Et advolvit saxum magnum ad ostium monumenti, et abiit.

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    3. All it means is 'Rock'

      So I wonder why Jerome only uses it five times when he translated the bible from Greek & Aramaic to Latin.

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    4. There was much more to my transition from a "sinful" boy, raised in a Luther church, to that of a ,for lack of a better term, Truth Loving Atheist.

      I have to give up the laptop to my daughter now.
      Happy New Year!

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  32. CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS

    Simply Evil - A decade after 9/11, it remains the best description and most essential fact about al-Qaida

    , it seemed that the country on 9/11 had been attacked in a particularly odious way (air piracy used to maximize civilian casualties) by a particularly odious group (a secretive and homicidal gang: part multinational corporation, part crime family) that was sworn to a medieval cult of death, a racist hatred of Jews, a religious frenzy against Hindus, Christians, Shia Muslims, and "unbelievers," and the restoration of a long-vanished and despotic empire.

    I feel no need to show off or to think of something novel to say. Moreover, many of the attempts to introduce "complexity" into the picture strike me as half-baked obfuscations or distractions. These range from the irredeemably paranoid and contemptible efforts to pin responsibility for the attacks onto the Bush administration or the Jews

    with every successive nihilistic attack on London, Madrid, Istanbul, Baghdad, and Bali. There was always some "intellectual," however, to argue in each case that the policy of Tony Blair, or George Bush, or the Spanish government, was the "root cause" of the broad-daylight slaughter of civilians. Responsibility, somehow, never lay squarely with the perpetrators.

    It is not only in the Muslim world that it is commonplace to hear that the events of 9/11 were part of a Jewish or U.S. government plot.

    But I had also seen Abu Ghraib shortly after it was first broken open in 2003, and could have no truck with the moral defectives who talked glibly as if that mini-Auschwitz and mass grave was no worse. When Amnesty International described Guantanamo as "the Gulag of our time," I felt a collapse of seriousness that I have felt many times since.

    Al-Qaida demands the impossible—worldwide application of the most fanatical interpretation of sharia—and to forward the demand employs the most hysterically irrational means.

    But, and against the tendencies of euphemism and evasion, some stout simplicities deservedly remain. Among them: Holocaust denial is in fact a surreptitious form of Holocaust affirmation.
    And, 10 years ago in Manhattan and Washington and Shanksville, Pa., there was a direct confrontation with the totalitarian idea, expressed in its most vicious and unvarnished form. Let this and other struggles temper and strengthen us for future battles where it will be necessary to repudiate the big lie.

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  33. Why is it that the "anti-government" crowd never got upset when the government took a terror attack, carried out by a bunch of Saudis (with the aid of the Taliban, possibly,) and lied us into a Trillion Dollar War in Iraq?

    Oh, wait, that was a "Republican" government, and the war enriched the republican shareholders of Grumman, Boeing, Halliburton, and Lockheed. Okay, now I get it.

    Never mind.

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    1. And, where was the "anti-gummint" crowd when the State of Texas put that man in prison for life as a result of a peeping tom seeing the man's wife give him a blow job?

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    2. Allen posts a particularly brilliant quote from Hitchens, Rufus responds with...

      Rufus

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    3. The Hitchens quote was, simply, an extended non sequitor.

      Hitchens can blow me.

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    4. Hitch says all you have to do is meet him in Hell.

      (and shoot him in the legs, of course.)

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    5. DougWed Jan 01, 10:21:00 AM EST
      Allen posts a particularly brilliant quote from Hitchens, Rufus responds with...

      Rufus


      Doug,

      It was a "non sequitur", Doug, because it contained Jewish highlights that were not unflattering.

      Anyone reading Muslim literature, watching Muslim broadcasts, observing Muslim behavior could not draw that conclusion unless they wanted to. I excuse Rufus because he says he has no interest on the subject of the ME. That being the case, one would expect him to have no opinion. He has an opinion which he dares not share openly. As I have said before, I know one when I hear one.


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  34. Hitchens:

    "Underlying these and other attempts to change the subject there was, and still is, a perverse desire to say that the 9/11 atrocities were in some way deserved, or made historically more explicable, by the many crimes of past American foreign policy. Either that, or—to recall the contemporary comments of the "Reverends" Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson—a punishment from heaven for American sinfulness. (The two ways of thinking, one of them ostensibly "left" and the other "right," are in fact more or less identical.) That this was an assault upon our society, whatever its ostensible capitalist and militarist "targets," was again thought too obvious a point for a clever person to make. It became increasingly obvious, though, with every successive nihilistic attack on London, Madrid, Istanbul, Baghdad, and Bali. There was always some "intellectual," however, to argue in each case that the policy of Tony Blair, or George Bush, or the Spanish government, was the "root cause" of the broad-daylight slaughter of civilians. Responsibility, somehow, never lay squarely with the perpetrators."

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    1. The devolvement of the Compassionate Conservative's prosecution of the war not withstanding, the enemy remains the enemy, despite the fact that Hillary/Obama are even worse in warfighting.

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    2. How in the fucking hell could you be "worse" than Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld?

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    3. Refusing to send reinforcements, and REDUCING forces, despite repeated requests FOR MORE PROTECTION from the Guinea Pigs in Ben Gazi, then disappearing as the Sacrificial Humans were slaughtered?

      Give me an example that contemptible in the Bush Years.

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    4. Could you, or any of us, refuse request for aid from Our Ambassador and the other humans there in those circumstances?

      I think not.

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    5. The New York Times is resurrecting "The Video is to Blame" MeMe...
      honest!

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    6. I would have have done exactly what that General did - tell them to get to the airport. Better a Benghazi than a Mogadishu.

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  35. "In evolutionary biology, a spandrel is a phenotypic characteristic that is a byproduct of the evolution of some other characteristic, rather than a direct product of adaptive selection.

    The term was coined by the Harvard paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould and population geneticist Richard Lewontin in their influential paper "The Spandrels of San Marco and the Panglossian Paradigm: A Critique of the Adaptationist Programme"

    Academics can get out there.

    I used to read Gould when he was commenting on more concrete manifestations of nature.

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  36. Religion is part of the human make-up. It's also part of our cultural and intellectual history. Religion was our first attempt at literature, the texts, our first attempt at cosmology, making sense of where we are in the universe, our first attempt at health care, believing in faith healing, our first attempt at philosophy.
    ___Hitchens

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