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Monday, December 30, 2013

Condemned as illegal by the International Court of Justice, and ordered to be dismantled, the annexation Wall, with its sinister ‘goon’ towers, continues to be built in utter disregard of international law and other people’s human rights.




Walled in by Zionism
by Stuart Littlewood / December 28th, 2013
London’s Christmas was made gloomier this year — and rightly so — by the appearance in the courtyard of St James’s Church, Piccadilly, of a replica of the hated Israeli annexation Wall that threads its thieving way around the Palestinian West Bank.
It’s a life-size representation of the actual 8-metre high Wall surrounding Bethlehem and imprisoning its inhabitants. The project, called ‘Bethlehem Unwrapped’ is a response to a call from the united churches of the Holy Land pleading with churches and communities around the world to “help us get our freedom back”.
The Israelis claim that the monstrous Wall, also known as the apartheid Wall, is to protect it’s citizens from terrorist attack. But in reality it is carefully routed to bite deep into Palestinian territory in order to steal choice agricultural land and water resources, as well as to seize strategic landscape and communication features and disconnect Palestinian communities from their livelihoods and from each other.
This is not the first time the evil barrier has been replicated by a British church. Over Christmas 2006 at the Sacred Heart Catholic Church in my home town of St. Ives in Cambridgeshire, instead of enjoying the usual live sheep, cow, donkey and newborn babies at a Nativity scene, visitors were greeted by a grim grey replica of the Wall and photos of the real thing.
The parish priest wanted to draw attention to the plight of the Palestinian people and replace the romantic idea of a manger crib with the ugly reality of the brutal occupation strangling his congregation’s ‘Little Town of Bethlehem’. He said he could understand Israel’s need for security but it was wrong to build the Wall on Palestinian land. “The lives of the ordinary citizens of Bethlehem have been devastated… It affects every aspect of their lives: friends and family are separated, earning a living becomes more and more difficult, and access to health care is severely restricted in the town of Bethlehem, which we sing about at this time of the year. If we can provide these people with a few extra basic provisions and give them a little financial support, we can help make their lives more bearable.” He was confident that the people of St Ives would want to express their support for those oppressed people at Christmas.
A spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in London called it a cheap public relations stunt, and the enterprising priest took a lot of flak from others who thought there was nothing wrong with Israel’s thuggish ways.
The St Ives parish is twinned with the parish of Aboud in the West Bank. Aboud, once called the City of Flowers, is a historic town of about 2000 people, half Christian, half Muslim, not far from Ramallah. On a hill above is the ancient monastery of St Barbara, blown up by the hooligan Israeli army in 2002. Throughout its long history Aboud is believed to have had no fewer than nine churches. The priest had made regular visits and watched local circumstances grow worse. His replica Wall had the support of his bishop, who said: “It is a dramatic way of highlighting the fact that in Bethlehem today, in particular the ordinary people, still suffer in all kinds of ways as they did in Jesus’ day.”
I’ve been to Aboud myself on a couple of occasions. It is a place one could easily fall in love with, but even here in this one-time Arab paradise the wretched Wall threatens to separate the townspeople from much of their land and olive groves and their water supply. The same goes for many more such lovely places in the Holy Land. In the case of Aboud massive protests have caused the Israelis to adjust the route of the Wall but it will still steal valuable property, restrict personal movement and rob the inhabitants of their freedom.
Condemned as illegal by the International Court of Justice, and ordered to be dismantled, the annexation Wall, with its sinister ‘goon’ towers, continues to be built in utter disregard of international law and other people’s human rights. It is symbolic of all that’s hateful and disgusting about the Israeli mentality. Because of its despicable purpose, and its sheer cruelty, the Wall contains the seeds of its own destruction. It is only a matter of time.
Meanwhile campaigners would do well to max up the potential of the Wall to shock and shame. And it is the Americans who are showing the way. As Finian Cunningham explains, one thing often missing from the Christmas celebrations is a connection between the original [alleged -- DV Ed] historical event – some 2,000 years ago – and how this story relates to present reality. A new billboard campaign now running in the US gives the traditional Christmas story realistic, contemporary meaning. “Massive public hoardings, currently on display in various cities across the US, show Mary, pregnant with her soon-to-be-born baby son, Jesus, being led on a donkey towards the ancient Palestinian town of Bethlehem by her husband Joseph. Confronting this weary family is not the occupying forces of the Roman Empire, as in ancient accounts of the nativity, but rather it is the occupying forces of the Zionist Israeli regime.”
Stuart Littlewood’s book Radio Free Palestine, with Foreword by Jeff Halper, can now be read on the internet by visiting radiofreepalestine.org.uk. Read other articles by Stuart.
This article was posted on Saturday, December 28th, 2013 at 6:48am and is filed under Discrimination, Israel/Palestine, Racism, War Crimes, Zionism.

Israel Has Recognized The ICJ

Press Release 2004/28   9 July 2004
Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall 
in the Occupied Palestinian Territory


ADVISORY OPINION
The Court finds that the construction by Israel of a wall in the Occupied Palestinian
Territory and its associated régime are contrary to international law;  it states 
the legal consequences arising from that illegality

          THE HAGUE, 9 July 2004.  The International Court of Justice (ICJ), principal judicial organ of the United Nations, has today rendered its Advisory Opinion in the case concerning the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (request for advisory opinion).
          In its Opinion, the Court finds unanimously that it has jurisdiction to give the advisory opinion requested by the United Nations General Assembly and decides by fourteen votes to one to comply with that request.
          The Court responds to the question as follows:
-     “A. By fourteen votes to one,
          The construction of the wall being built by Israel, the occupying Power, in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, and its associated régime, are contrary to international law”;
-     “B. By fourteen votes to one,
          Israel is under an obligation to terminate its breaches of international law;  it is under an obligation to cease forthwith the works of construction of the wall being built in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem, to dismantle forthwith the structure therein situated, and to repeal or render ineffective forthwith all legislative and regulatory acts relating thereto, in accordance with paragraph 151 of this Opinion”;
-     “C. By fourteen votes to one,
          Israel is under an obligation to make reparation for all damage caused by the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including in and around East Jerusalem”;
-     “D. By thirteen votes to two,
          All States are under an obligation not to recognize the illegal situation resulting from the construction of the wall and not to render aid or assistance in maintaining the situation created by such construction;  all States parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War of 12 August 1949 have in addition the obligation, while respecting the United Nations Charter and international law, to ensure compliance by Israel with international humanitarian law as embodied in that Convention”;
-     “E. By fourteen votes to one,
          The United Nations, and especially the General Assembly and the Security Council, should consider what further action is required to bring to an end the illegal situation resulting from the construction of the wall and the associated régime, taking due account of the present Advisory Opinion.”

98 comments:

  1. The Spot On The Wall: by Mister Completely.

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  2. Like it or not?

    Walls work.

    China has one.

    America has many.

    Saudi Arabia has them too.

    The Israeli one stops savages from murdering babies.

    So sorry, maybe if the savages on the other side of the wall (the palestinians) knew how to be civilized? Israel would not build a tiny % of the fence as a wall. The wall? (less than 2% of the separation fence) stops the murderous palestinians from using American supplied sniper rifles from blowing out the brain of Israeli babies, women and kids.

    So sorry that the "wall" stops suicide bombers and snipers but it does.

    Maybe Israel should take down the wall and just push back the palestinians 6-7 miles from the border?

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    1. Let's see all nations allow their enemies free access to their homelands...

      LOL

      One standard for Israel, none for anyone else.

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    2. Thieves respect property. 
      They merely wish the property to become their property that they may more perfectly respect it. 

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    3. What Israeli Historians Say About 1948 Ethnic Cleansing
      By Charley Reese


      In an article in the Ha’aretz newspaper, Danny Rabinovitz wrote,
      “What happened to the Palestinians in 1948 is Israel’s original sin…

      Between the 1950s and 1976,
      the state systematically confiscated most of the land of its remaining Palestinian citizens.”


      Shahak stated in his article,
      “In this context let me mention the pioneering work of Erskin Childers [Irish journalist].
      Childers was first to show that the Zionist claim that Arab propaganda had called on the Palestinians to run away from their homes was a gross lie.
      He inspected all broadcasts [the BBC recorded them and kept transcripts as did the American government] of the Arab radios of the time to find that no such call had ever been made.”

      
      Finally, this quote from the diary of Yitzhak Tabenkin, a charismatic leader of the kibbutz movement. In his diary, Tabenkin stated,

      “the ideals of Hitler which I like:
      ethnic homogeneity, the possibility of exchange of ethnic minorities;
      the transfers of ethnic groups for the sake of an international order which for me are a particularly valuable feature.”


      No wonder some people prefer myth to truth.

      http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/179-washington-report-archives-1994-1999/september-1999/9607-behind-the-myths-what-israeli-historians-say-about-1948-ethnic-cleansing.html

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    4. Egypt is now constructring a wall to keep the Palestinians out.

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    5. Walls are BIG business and nations across the globe are hiring Israeli construction companies to big their "anti-savage" walls

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    6. Condemned as illegal by the International Court of Justice…

      SOUNDS IMPRESSIVE, but what is their record? Do they single out Israel more than China over Tibet? Turkey over Cyprus?

      Great sounding titles for a political organization with an anti-Israel agenda.

      Other words to describe the "International Court of Justice"?

      Kangaroo….

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  3. Israel, a secular and socialist state that was built upon ...
    ... the Three Pillars of Apartheid

    The first pillar
    “derives from Israeli laws and policies that establish Jewish identity for purposes of law and afford a preferential legal status and material benefits to Jews over non-Jews.”

    The second pillar is reflected in
    “Israel’s ‘grand’ policy to fragment the OPT [and] ...
    ... ensure that Palestinians remain confined to the reserves designated for them ...
    ... while Israeli Jews are prohibited from entering those reserves but enjoy freedom of movement...
    ... throughout the rest of the Palestinian territory.

    This policy is evidenced by Israel’s extensive appropriation of Palestinian land, which continues to shrink the territorial space available to Palestinians;

    the hermetic closure and isolation of the Gaza Strip from the rest of the OPT;
    the deliberate severing of East Jerusalem from the rest of the West Bank;

    and the appropriation and construction policies serving to carve up the West Bank into an intricate and well-serviced network of connected settlements for Jewish-Israelis ...

    ... an archipelago of besieged and non-contiguous enclaves for Palestinians.”


    The third pillar is
    “Israel’s invocation of ‘security’ to validate sweeping restrictions on Palestinian freedom of ...
    ... opinion, expression, assembly, association and movement [to] mask a true underlying intent ...

    ... to suppress dissent to its system of domination and thereby maintain control over Palestinians as a group.”



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    1. Actually the arab occupied world is "an Apartheid" place.

      But that's not accurate since they have ethnically cleansed all Jews from the 899/900th of the middle east they squat on.

      Now that the arab nations (and people) have driven millions of Jews INTO Israel from 1948-1967 we can thank them helping Israel get going as well as they have..

      The Arabs of Israel? Are the FREEST and SAFEST arabs in the middle east. That's why they don't leave.

      They live in 1/900th of the middle east, in Israel, the Jewish state. Rather than leave and JOIN their fellow arabs in the other 899/900th.

      This numbers are amazing..

      the arabs of Israel CHOOSE to LIVE in Israel. 1/900th of the middle east, rather than live in the 899/900th of the Arab occupied middle east.

      And can anyone wonder why? the 21 nations of the arab world? SUCK..

      yep I said it...

      they suck.

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    2. The "wall" works... and that pisses off the world..

      LOL

      So sorry..

      NOT...

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    3. APARTHEID AND OCCUPATION
      More than 5 million Palestinians are denied equal rights by the state of Israel under a system of apartheid, a deliberate policy of racial or ethnic segregation.

      Under Israeli military occupation, millions of Palestinians live in conditions which closely resemble the apartheid system that existed in South Africa:
      • No right of free speech, assembly or movement
      • Arrest and imprisonment without charge or trial
      • Torture
      • House searches without warrant
      • Assassination, extra-judicial murder
      • No right to vote for the Israeli government (even though it controls their lives)
      Israel controls all Palestinian borders, all imports and exports, and all movement between towns and cities. 
      THE GAZA STRIP, still surrounded, besieged and controlled by Israel, has been sealed off and effectively turned into the world’s largest open-air prison.


      bob

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    4. Let's remember how the world (who now condemn Israel's separation barrier) dealt with the Jews when they had the chance?

      They gassed them by the millions, they deported and expelled them by millions, they stole the Jews's property, raped their women and stole their kids and forced conversion on them...

      LOL

      So they don't like the "wall"? Go fuck yourselves.

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    5. Let's review.

      "THE GAZA STRIP, still surrounded, besieged and controlled by Israel, has been sealed off and effectively turned into the world’s largest open-air prison.



      There is this creation called a map? Look at it you retarded, inbred, lying sack of dog shit.

      Egypt borders Gaza.

      But you keep blaming Israel because you are a dishonest lying sack of garbage.

      The good news? the people of Gaza are getting (from Egypt) what they deserve.

      Maybe Israel should stop helping the people of Gaza? No more food for Gaza, No more medical care for Gaza, no more fuel for gaza from Israel.

      Let the savages of Gaza make peace with Egypt.. oh that's right, they backed the revolution of the moslem brotherhood and have been MURDERING egyptians!!!

      LOL Talk about funny...

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    6. WiO,

      Don't forget our Christian friends, who also suffered at the hands of the barbarians. The one consistent pattern to be found is that wherever there are Muslims in the world there is conflict.

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    7. We know that both the Israeli and the NAZI embrace the concept of

      Lebensraum ("living space")
      as being a law of nature for all healthy and vigorous peoples of superior races …



      bob

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    8. living space?

      israel is 1/900th of the middle east.

      the arabs? have 899/900th of the middle east.

      sounds like the arabs are greedy pricks..

      just like some americans that stole indian lands in AZ living on 350 acres :)

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    9. Ahem, I've said moslem countries "SUCK" for years.

      You aren't alone there, WiO.

      :)

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    10. Its a fact bob...

      The arab world sucks...

      That's the real issue..

      they create suicidal retards... by the millions...

      Look at Desert Rat, he's one of them.

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    11. William ShakespeareTue Dec 31, 11:24:00 AM EST



      “In time we hate that which we often fear.”

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  4. We prefer to think of it as walling them out. Personally, I never thought much of the idea that a wall would keep evil at bay forever. The best defense is a merciless hard-hitting offense.

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    1. Lebanon shot at Syrian jets yesterday.

      Egypt and palestinians are in daily battles, killing each other by the dozens on a weekly basis.

      Syria has made homeless 5 million syrians (including several hundred thousand palestinians), killed 120 thousand civilians in 24 months. and killed thousands of palestinians..

      and that's the short list

      aint that funny crap?

      All the while the arabs of Israel? Live in freedom....

      LOL

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    2. He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell
      and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death.

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  5. Anti-Semitic, you mean like this?

    What is "Occupation" - Sun Dec 22, 10:49:00 AM EST

    I wonder how long til the Palestinians get lucky and murder a few dozen Israeli kids…


    http://2164th.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-ducking-dynasty-of-us-culture.html?showComment=1387737764585#c3552581149787224786

    yep, I said it

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    1. Yep you pasted out of context once again.

      Maybe the palestinians will get lucky in their HUNDREDS of terrorist attacks a month and murder a few dozen Jew.

      Then maybe Israel will solve the issue and drive the palestinians into the sinai and jordan. Or better yet? Let the syrians deal with them...

      LOL

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    2. "Spengler's Laws": "When a nation is reduced to selling its women, it's lost."


      Unlike many countries, prostitution in Israel is legal.

      To many people it is shocking to learn that in the "Holy Land" prostitution is allowed.
      Prostitution is legal, but what is not legal, is running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute, in other words being a pimp.

      Prostitution in Israel is not kept on the down low.
      Everyone knows about it and where to go to find a prostitute.
      It is a choice whether they decide to pay for sex or not.
      Prostitutes are known to be discrete.
      They do not go around talking about the men they have sex with.
      Some of the places where prostitution is more popular is in cities like Tel Aviv and Haifa.
      That could be because the population is more secular and not as religious.
      Prostitutes can be found on the streets, strip clubs and "massage parlors."
      Politicians, businessmen and even police officers are known to visit the upscale "massage parlors" and high price strip clubs.

      Regular citizens are more likely to just look for a prostitute on the streets.

      When Arab Israelis or Orthodox Jews, whether married or not, want to have sex with a prostitute, they go somewhere far from their homes.
      The reason for them going far is so they will not be recognized by anyone.

      One negative effect of the rising popularity of prostitution is that venereal diseases have
      rapidly increased over the years.

      http://adsocceriloveran.blogspot.com/2013/05/prostitution.html

      "Spengler's Laws": "When a nation is reduced to selling its women, it's lost."



      b.o.b.

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  6. From threatening to "End Western Civilization" to ...
    ... fabricating false headings on a "Cut & Paste"


    How the 'mighty' have fallen!

    "Spengler's Laws": "When a nation is reduced to selling its women, it's lost."
    hat tip: allen


    bob

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  7. I wish we had a wall.

    From the Gulf to the Pacific.

    We were building one, some of it is up, but it seems to have gotten 'bogged down' under Obama.

    The Mexicans have a wall of sorts on their border with Guatemala. They enforce their immigration laws. Don't like people just walking into their country.

    Walls can be great things.

    When I was in Lewiston, if I'd had the money I would have built a wall between myself and my shit ass neighbor, and his dog faced 'Christian' wife. I'm not against Christians, it's just she claimed to be one, and really wasn't.

    The Berlin Wall was a bad wall. It was designed to keep people in that wanted to leave. Anyone can leave Israel at any time.

    The Israeli wall has been something of a success in reducing the number of violent 'incidents'.

    Robert Frost said fences make good neighbors, but he was being ironic, and wanted to tear fences down.

    He was in no danger from suicide bombers and snipers though.

    I imagine Deuce has something of a wall or fence around his compound.

    I may be wrong.

    Am I, Deuce?

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    1. No, you are not Deuce.

      “You don't need anybody to tell you who you are or what you are. You are what you are!”

      ― John Lennon



      bob

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    2. Farmer Bob's Emporium of Urbicultural Apocalyptica



      This blog by Bob6stringer, masquerading as Farmer Bob from 2001 - present.


      http://farmerbob.blogspot.com/

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    3. You don't know what a comma is, nor what it implies?

      Not surprising.

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    4. Implies?

      You need to develop your case through implications?

      Why not speak directly to the issues?

      Oh, that's right, now I remember ...

      You are a fuckin' Fascist Fudd!


      b.o.b.

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  8. "allen's law": "When Israel is reduced to selling its women, it's kosher."

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    1. Age of Child Prostitutes in Israel Dropping

      Knesset study cites cases of 11-year-olds used for commercial sex that are among the several thousands of teenagers involved in prostitution.

      Vered Lee
      Haaretz

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.542420

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    2. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 10:40:00 AM EST


      ... "cases" ...

      The 's', in "cases" that makes it plural, means there is more than one of them!

      Multiple examples of 11 year old children being used ...
      ... for Commercial Sex ...

      Shame on you!
      An entire society that is enveloped in shame, deciet and denial

      It is Disgusting!

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  9. Go away rat. You are a pest.

    You are back on the women deal again.

    Soon on the 11 year olds that you desire so much.

    You are sick.

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    1. Back on it before I even post that you'd be back on it.......

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    2. You are nothing if not predictable....

      Predictably sick.....

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    3. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 10:41:00 AM EST



      Age of Child Prostitutes in Israel Dropping

      Knesset study cites cases of 11-year-olds used for commercial sex that are among the several thousands of teenagers involved in prostitution.

      Vered Lee
      Haaretz

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.542420

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    4. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 10:42:00 AM EST


      In a letter to a group that helps women carry their babies to term, the rabbis cite ‘the extreme seriousness involved in killing fetuses, which is like actual murder.’

      Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/chief-rabbis-of-israel-praise-efforts-to-reduce-abortions#ixzz2p4Fjkq8N

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  10. And, don't forget, a self described 'professional asshole'.

    He certainly lives up to his self description.

    Today's topic being mostly exhausted already, and with ratbobwhackyopath in a big rush to drop turds all over the thread, I'm heading......back to bed !

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    1. Farmer Bob becomes Official White House Garden Farmer

      This month, Farmer O-Bob-ma, formerly Katchkie Farm's Farmer Bob,
      will begin his stint as the new resident gardener for the White House.

      He was elated to get the call earlier in March from Mrs. Michelle Obama herself, who met Bob during a visit to The Sylvia Center at Katchkie Farm this past summer.

      The First Lady was observing a children's program at the farm when she spotted Farmer Bob sitting in a field of arugula, whispering to the greens.

      Impressed by Farmer Bob's eccentric and gentle organic practices,
      she decided to invite him on as the official gardener at the White House.

      “I'm excited to start something new on a smaller scale, Farmer Bob explained. “
      The President and First Lady have expressed a lot of interest in my new, experimental growing practices.

      Also, to become more connected to his new environment,
      Farmer Bob decided to legally change his name to Farmer O-Bob-ma,

      which he found more fitting for his new role at the White House. -
      http://www.greatperformances.com/the-dish/farmer-bob-becomes-official-white-house-garden-farmer#sthash.aKk1XmNx.dpuf


      Farmer O-Bob-ma

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    1. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 10:57:00 AM EST


      Horses for courses.

      The walls failed the Chinese and the Romans.

      Walls don't work.
      Ask the Romans, ask the Chinese Emperors.

      Oh, wait, we can't ...

      They are in the 'trash can' of history!



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    2. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:00:00 AM EST


      The NAZI and the Communists built walls, too!

      Did not work for either of them.

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    3. The Atlantic Wall was propaganda more for the German populace than the allies who were fixing to invade.

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    4. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:03:00 AM EST

      Great picture here ...

      A wall erected around the Warsaw Ghetto in Poland in 1941.

      If you like to see the link ...

      http://consortiumnews.com/2013/11/13/israels-troubling-walls/

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    5. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:04:00 AM EST


      The walls the NAZI built, as with the Israeli, were to keep people lock up, not lock out!

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    6. This took place in 2004. The World Government must be serious.

      Conceptually, a wall is a poor idea unless it is temporary. In the long term, as the Romans and Chinese learned, walls fail to bring peace. The Mongols did not use walls.

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    7. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:06:00 AM EST



      The walls the NAZI built, as with the Israeli, were to keep people locked up, not locked out!

      Sorry about my English, I will just have to work harder at it!

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    8. In 1970 the Palestinians messed with the wrong guy in Jordan. After turning his army loose to kill somewhere between 20,000 - 40,000 Palestinians while driving tens of thousands more into refugee camps outside Jordan, Jordan has had peace. The Mongols knew how to handle troublesome Muslims, and Jordan applied that lesson.

      The best walls are not made of concrete, they are made of high velocity lead.

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    9. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:13:00 AM EST


      The Fünfte Kolonne von Teamleitern tries to equate Israel with the Romans, the Chinese and the Mongols.

      First in a post about their use of walls, in defensive applications.
      Which never relly were successful.

      Then he mentions the Mongols, who never built a wall, or were stopped by one.

      What do any of the three have to do with Israel, other than being oppressive political regimes that thrived on the subjugation of others to fill their own pockets with treasure and power?


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    10. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:15:00 AM EST


      Israel is building its wall as part of an offensive strategy, not a defensive one.

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    11. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:19:00 AM EST

      The "Wall" in Warsaw, without the editorial verbiage of the article.

      http://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/warsaw-ghetto-wall.jpg

      My, but this computer stuff is surely detail oriented ....

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  12. There is nothing to discuss with the Palestinians. One cannot negotiate peace with a man who will be satisfied with nothing less than your death. The Palestinians have one goal, the annihilation of Israel. It is time to stop the game playing and time for Israel to arbitrarily take a decision: set its boundaries and defend then vigorously - none of the proportionality nonsense. No, when the Palestinians act out, hammer them.

    Israel is a country. It is going nowhere. Its existence is a fact. Live with it.

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    1. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:37:00 AM EST


      The Soviet Union, it WAS a country.

      Apartheid South Africa, it WAS a country.

      NAZI Germany, it WAS a country.

      We did not have to live with any of them.

      In each case a concerted campaign led to the destruction of each.


      The comparisons you have made, the march of history ...
      It favors freedom for the indigenous people, not their continual subjugation by foreigners.

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    2. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:40:00 AM EST


      Even 'Communist' China has changed course.

      Economic and political liberation of the individual, not apartheid and collective ownership, is the way forward.

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    3. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:54:00 AM EST


      And while the political entity changed, the people thrived!

      Excepting those Russia, Rome and Mongolia.

      So, the lesson is not so much about walls ...
      as it is about the long term effects of trying to subjugate others, for fun ...

      But mostly profit and power!

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  13. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 11:30:00 AM EST

    According to Flavius, Herod the Great built the fortress of Masada between 37 and 31 BCE. Herod, an Idumean, had been made King of Judea by his Roman overlords and “furnished this fortress as a refuge for himself.” It included a casemate wall around the plateau, storehouses, large cisterns ingeniously filled with rainwater, barracks, palaces and an armory.

    Some 75 years after Herod’s death, at the beginning of the Revolt of the Jews against the Romans in 66 CE, a group of Jewish rebels overcame the Roman garrison of Masada. After the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Temple (70 CE) they were joined by zealots and their families who had fled from Jerusalem. There, they held out for three years, raiding and harassing the Romans.

    Then, in 73 CE, Roman governor Flavius Silva marched against Masada with the Tenth Legion, auxiliary units and thousands of Jewish prisoners-of-war. The Romans established camps at the base of Masada, laid siege to it and built a circumvallation wall. They then constructed a rampart of thousands of tons of stones and beaten earth against the western approaches of the fortress and, in the spring of 74 CE, moved a battering ram up the ramp and breached the wall of the fortress.

    Once it became apparent that the Tenth Legion's battering rams and catapults would succeed in breaching Masada's walls, Elazar ben Yair - the Zealots’ leader - decided that all the Jewish defenders should commit suicide; the alternative facing the fortress’s defenders were hardly more attractive than death.

    Flavius dramatically recounts the story told him by two surviving women. The defenders – almost one thousand men, women and children – led by ben Yair, burnt down the fortress and killed each other. The Zealots cast lots to choose 10 men to kill the remainder. They then chose among themselves the one man who would kill the survivors. That last Jew then killed himself.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Archaeology/Masada1.html

    Modern Israelis venerate suicide, they must not even be Jewish, Judaism denounces suicide!

    Suicide, much like abortion, is really just like murder!




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  14. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 12:02:00 PM EST

    The real question is what provides the greatest measure of freedom and liberty, for the greatest number of individuals.

    Not what brings the greatest benefit to any select group of people.

    The Ashkenazi system, of socialistic, collective ownership of the real property of the country, is abhorrent to the 'Western' mind. Indeed, in the 'West' it is the assumption that 'private property' rather than collectivism is the true guarantor of liberty.

    As Fredrich Hayek wrote ..

    The system of private property is the most important guaranty of freedom, ...
    ... not only for those who own property, but scarcely less for those who do not.

    It is only because the control of the means of production is divided among many people acting independently ...
    ... that nobody has complete power over us, that we as individuals can decide what to do with ourselves.

    If all the property were vested in a single hand, ...
    ... whether it be nominally that of “society” as a whole or that of a dictator, ...
    ... whoever exercises this control has complete power ....



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    1. The Synagogue LadyTue Dec 31, 12:04:00 PM EST


      The Israeli government has, to a large extent, continued the Ottoman legal system in regard to land ownership. 

      Thus, today the vast proportion of land within the State of Israel (roughly 93%) is owned and managed either by the Israel Lands Administration (ILA) or the JNF.  This figure includes much of such extensive regions as the Negev and the Judean Wilderness (near the Dead Sea), which are sparsely populated. 

      Jewish settlements in the State of Israel usually are located on lands that are owned by the ILA or the JNF and that have been consigned to each settlement through long-term leases. 

      Less than 7% of the land in the State of Israel is privately owned.

      http://elearning.la.psu.edu/jst060/lesson_2/land-ownership

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    2. On what basis, factual basis, would any rational person consider Israel to be a 'Western' land?

      Their two largest organized and practicing religious factions are both Middle Eastern.
      The people living there are either Arabs or of eastern Eurasian origins.

      What is the reason the Ashkenazi continue to market themselves as 'Western'?

      They are no more 'Western' than Hopalong Cassidy was real.


      bob

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  15. It was "the Palestinians" that really built the wall. They did so by constantly crossing over into Israel and blowing up pizza parlors, buses, people in crowds on the street, knifing people.

    The wall was a defensive reaction to this and would not have been built in the absence of such behavior.

    It's called self defense.

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  16. My, my ratbobwhacky is on a manic today........

    Guy is nutz.

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    1. Troll, troll go away
      Find another place to play
      Pecking away while in the nude
      Writing nothing that isn't rude
      Now, take your meds and go to bed
      Before another word is said
      Troll, troll go away
      Find another place to play

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    2. Less than 7% of the land in the State of Israel is privately owned.

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  17. Rat can only dream --

    Italy court overturns paedophile conviction as 11-year-old 'in love'



    AFP 12/30/2013 4:12:22 PM

    Italy's highest court has overturned the conviction of a 60-year-old man for having sex with an 11-year-old girl, because the verdict failed to take into account their "amorous relationship".

    Pietro Lamberti, a social services worker in Catanzaro in southern Italy, was convicted in February 2011 and sentenced to five years in prison for sexual acts with a minor.

    The verdict was later upheld by an appeals court.

    But Italy's supreme court ruled that the verdict did not sufficiently consider "the 'consensus', the existence of an amorous relationship, the absence of physical force, the girl's feelings of love".

    The court's October 15 decision to order a retrial was made public this month by Il Quotidiano della Calabria and slowly spread to social media networks, where it sparked heated reactions against the Italian justice system.

    According to Il Quotidiano, the girl came from a poor family who had known and trusted the social worker.

    Lamberti was caught naked in bed with the girl after an investigation by police based largely on wire-tap evidence, it said.

    ******

    Move to Italy ratass, become a "social worker".

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    1. Bob,

      ...right age, wrong ethnicity...Take care, if you don't write it between the lines, it will disappear. I dig rock n roll music.

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    2. Abusive Ad Hominem occurs when an attack on the character or other irrelevant personal qualities of the opposition—such as .... —is offered as evidence against their position.

      The dicussion is of the proclivities of nations, not those of a contributor that does not even participate.

      Their lack of depth of both fact and imagination ...

      It is showing.

      Even in the Ad Hominem they cannot escape their reliance upon the racist, ethnic core of their argument.

      Race and ethnicity, that is all they want to discuss, all they think is important.

      They both deny individualism and grasp for the collective.

      It is why they cannot release the desert rat,
      even to the point of fabricating the evidence of his appearance.

      the desert rat has become their own personal 'Big Foot', they know he's out there ...

      Just that there are few sightings that are authentic, verifiable and real.


      b.o.b.





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  18. Jihadists Flock to Israel’s Borders

    December 31, 2013 by P. David Hornik 14 Comments




    jOn Sunday morning five Katyusha rockets were fired from Lebanon into northern Israel. They did not hit anything, but one landed near the town of Kiryat Shmona. Israel responded with a volley of tank shells toward the source of the fire.

    When one thinks of rocket fire from Lebanon into Israel, one may well think of Hizballah. According to Israeli assessments, though, Hizballah was not the source of the Katyushas. The Shiite organization is heavily involved in the fighting in Syria, and considered unlikely to open an additional front with Israel.




    Instead, it’s believed the rockets were fired by global jihadists of the Sunni variety. Amid the chaos wrought by what was once called the Arab spring, they’ve been infiltrating the area by the thousands lately. That includes Sinai, where Egypt’s control has been weakened by the turmoil in the country; Syria, where the jihadists are fighting the regime head-on; and Lebanon, where they hope to challenge Hizballah’s hegemony and are probably behind a recent wave of attacks on its strongholds.

    Indeed, Israeli military analyst Yoav Limor responded pessimistically to Sunday’s Katyusha incident, saying it was


    most likely a preview of the future security reality along Israel’s borders, entailing surprise terror attacks by an unknown and undeterred enemy, leaving Israel with only a limited ability to respond.

    As for what motivated the Katyusha-firers, Limor cites two views among Israeli defense experts. Some believe they “sought to create an escalation that would force Hezbollah’s hand in the matter”—that is, get it pounded by Israel. However,


    Other experts believe reality may be simpler: world jihad groups seek to eradicate all those they deem as infidels, be they Muslim, Christians or Jews. Once an opportunity to strike Israel presented itself—just like it did earlier this month when explosives were planted near the border—there was no reason to hesitate.

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    1. Sunday’s incident, in any case, comes in the wake of the killing last week of an Israeli worker by sniper fire from Gaza, and an incident earlier this month of mortar fire into Israel from Syria. For Israel, Middle Eastern developments do not occur in some abstract world of speculation but have real, direct consequences.

      There is, though, one border—and one only—that has been quiet: Israel’s Jordan Valley border with the Hashemite Kingdom. Israel and Jordan share an interest in containing the radicals and engage in quiet, effective security cooperation.

      In light of that, it is hard to look forward to Secretary of State John Kerry’s next visit to Israel, set for later this week. Kerry’s Israeli-Palestinian “peace process” now centers on the Jordan Valley—which can only mean undermining the current stability and replacing it with something worse.




      According to various reports, that “worse” could mean diluting the Israeli presence with Palestinian, American, or other foreign forces, or dismantling the Israeli civilian communities in the valley. Israel’s defense minister Moshe Yaalon opposes that idea on security grounds, viewing those communities as “critical” to maintaining control.

      But Yaalon is, after all, merely an elected Israeli official and a general with decades of experience, inferior in expertise to diplomats from Washington who plan Israel’s future for it.

      And there is also the time factor, with, again according to various reports, Israel supposed to abandon the valley five, ten, or fifteen years after the signing of an Israeli-Palestinian agreement.

      Defense Minister Yaalon is not the only Israeli who doesn’t like these ideas. A recent poll found 63 percent of Israelis opposed to a pullout from the Jordan Valley even if international forces were deployed there, and 74 percent opposed to international forces replacing the Israeli army there.

      And on Sunday, in a symbolic but important vote, Israel’s Ministerial Committee on Legislation voted 8-3 to apply Israeli law to the valley.

      With firing incidents from Lebanon, Gaza, and Syria and Secretary Kerry once again on his way, it is hard not to feel beleaguered. The United States has an old habit of strengthening Israel with one hand and weakening and threatening it with the other. Under Obama and Kerry, it’s become an obsession.

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    2. According to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF),
      more than 100 tons of explosives were dropped in the first 9 hours of 'Operation Cast Lead'.

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  19. Defend this

    Equal Under The Law?

    When it comes to non-Jews in a Jewish state, thorny questions of Jewish law and modern reality.
    12/31/13

    Kalman Neuman
    Special To The Jewish Week


    Nearly three years ago, a group of Israeli rabbis published a public statement forbidding the sale or rent of real estate to non-Jews, and even recommending various sanctions to be applied against anyone found transgressing their decree. Despite public controversy, the ruling was not rescinded, and one of its authors was recently a candidate for the office of chief rabbi of Israel.

    The fact that such a ruling, which claimed to be based on Jewish law, was promulgated highlights the problematic interface between traditional Jewish sources and the notion of human rights in a Jewish state.

    Indeed, for those who take for granted the benefits of equal citizenship enjoyed by Jewish minorities in Western countries, the extension of similar status to non-Jews in the Jewish state would seem only natural. However, traditional Jewish sources do not present such a clear picture. There are, for example, texts that would seem to support discrimination against non-Jews in various areas of interpersonal relations. One example of which would be the prohibition to give non-Jews “a foothold in the land,” which is found in the Babylonian Talmud (Tractate Avoda Zara 20a) and in the Code of Maimonides (Laws of Idolatry 10:3).

    Even before the establishment of the State of Israel, halachic decisors raised the question of applying rabbinic tradition regarding non-Jews to modern reality. Some of them used interpretive strategies that circumvented problematic rulings regarding non-Jews. For instance, some invoked the statements of Meiri, a 13th-century Provencal scholar, in whose writings the discrimination in Jewish law should not be read as actually between Jews and gentiles, but between nations of law and lawless nations, between barbarism and civilization. Given the fact that non-Jews within Israel are as a rule law-abiding citizens of a democratic state, equal treatment of contemporary non-Jews would follow.

    {...}

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      Halachic decisors who oppose discrimination against non-Jews in real estate transactions (such as the Modern Orthodox rabbinic group Beit Hillel) have raised practical considerations, such as the fact that behavior towards non-Jews in a Jewish state has to take into account the effect of such decisions on Jews elsewhere. Others justify ignoring discriminatory law by virtue of the claim that “our power is limited” to implement the full ideal of excluding non-Jews.
      These justifications are useful to rationalize acquiescence with present reality, but they do not include a conception of the state and of citizenship that is in accord with basic civil rights. The Israeli Declaration of Independence commits to “foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants” and “ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex.”
      In fact, some of the legal rulings regarding relations with non-Jews are appropriate for a society where Jews are a minority and are in need of protection and of solidarity in their relations with the majority culture. A contemporary formulation must take into account the reality of the State of Israel, established so that the Jewish people could be the majority and not require discriminatory procedures in order to acquire what they deserve.
      A contemporary conception that may allow us to envision a majority state with regard for its non-Jewish minority may be found in statements of two prominent rabbis of Religious Zionism, Yitzhak Herzog, chief rabbi in the early days of the State, and Shaul Yisraeli. In their deliberations regarding the possibility of non-Jews serving in positions of authority, they suggested that Jewish law view the state not as a re-enactment of the Jewish kingdom of yore, but rather as a partnership of its citizens in which all are empowered to serve the common good. Neither rabbi elaborated on the extent to which this position can be utilized, but it may be our responsibility to use their framework to formulate a more comprehensive understanding of a modern Jewish state and the role of all of its citizens, Jews and non-Jews alike.
      It is true that there are competing understandings of what it means to be a Jewish state, both in regard to relations with non-Jewish Israelis as well as concerning the place of Jewish religion and tradition in the legal system and in the public sphere. It is also impossible to ignore the fact that the discussion of the status of non-Jews in Israel takes place in the context of a longstanding conflict, in which the very legitimacy of the state is challenged. These should not be reasons for ignoring the need to create a common language between Jewish tradition and human rights. Even Jews who are wary of innovations in Jewish law must understand the challenge to Jewish tradition of a modern state based on democratic principles, and formulate an appropriate Jewish response.
      Kalman Neuman, a rabbi, is a researcher in the Israel Democracy Institute’s Religion and State Project, and a lecturer at Herzog College in Gush Etzion. Judaism And/Vs. Democracy is a regular column by researchers from IDI’s Human Rights and Judaism project on the dialogue between the Jewish and democratic traditions.

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  20. Israel and the US have little in common when it comes to recognized western values of human rights. Pretending that Israeli behavior towards minorities is comparable to a normal western democracy is an insult to civilized international standardst.

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    1. I don't care about the Palestinians, and I don't care about Israel's behavior, all I care about is not sending money to Israel and not sending troops to fight their wars for them.

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    2. LOL U SO FUNNY…

      DO NOT YOU MAKE MONEY OFF TIT OF AMERICA WORKING FOR THAT SAME MILITARY????????

      I THINK USED TO THEY CALL PEOPLE LIKE YOU HYPO-CRITTERS?????

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    3. DeuceTue Dec 31, 01:54:00 PM EST
      Israel and the US have little in common when it comes to recognized western values of human rights. Pretending that Israeli behavior towards minorities is comparable to a normal western democracy is an insult to civilized international standardst.


      U STUPID PERSON… NOWS NOT WHAT HE SPEAKS..

      DUMMY… MR DEUCE, MR DUMMY ARE YOU

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    4. The Israeli minders are right on schedule.

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  21. Israel and Saudi Arabia have more in common with each other than either does with the United States when it come to civil rights.

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    1. Deuce do you have any real clue about what you are speaking?

      Since you NEVER have visited Israel I doubt you really understand.

      Now if you are making the claim that Israel's treatment of arabs outside of Israel is not, well let's say, Martin Luther King like? I'd like you to tell us of how the USA treats Pakistanis, citizens of Iraq and other places America invades for right or wrong.

      Tell us of the "civil rights" of the Japanese after ww2, or how America treats those it wishes to spy on or kidnap

      could you do that please?

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  22. You are correct, the United States is far worse than Saudi Arabia.

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    1. Idiot.

      The Israeli government has, to a large extent, continued the Ottoman legal system in regard to land ownership.
      ...

      Less than 7% of the land in the State of Israel is privately owned.


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    2. Private property was the original source of freedom. 

      It still is its main bulwark. 

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  23. Read the established laws on apartheid both internationally and US law.

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    1. You chose the Iranians........go live there.......

      ;)

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  24. The Invention of the Jewish People
    is a book written by Shlomo Sand, an Israeli professor of history at the University of Tel Aviv.

    The author wasn’t probing a belief system but Zionist fabrications of a spurious common lineage for people of the Jewish faith.

    Sand argues that the idea of Jews having a common ethnic identity is implausible because,
    as with Christianity and Islam, Judaism was originally a “proselytising religion”.

    The notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is without foundation.

    The recent study by John Hopkins geneticist Dr Elhaik confirms...
    that the common genome structure of the European Jew gravitated towards an origin in old Khazaria.

    “The majority of Jews do not have Middle Eastern genetic component,” he told Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

    Founded on a mélange of myths and manufactured historical tales,
    Israel has failed the archaeological test of time and is now exposed by DNA science.

    Today’s genetics prove unequivocally that in 1948 “the children of the original Jews” were replaced by converts ...
    With no roots in the Middle East.

    http://www.redressonline.com/2013/02/the-myth-of-the-jewish-people/


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    1. The notion of Judaism as a “race”, rather than a religion of various races, is without foundation.

      The results of a recently published study by Israeli-American geneticist Dr Eran Elhaik at John Hopkins University have scientifically and genetically validated Sand’s research

      The idea of a “nation race” was progressively developed and reinforced over centuries among segregated Jewish communities in Europe.

      With the rise of German nationalism in the 19th century, Jewish historian Heinrich Graetz “retrospectively” crafted a discrete identity for the ghettoized people –  mapping their origin to an old kingdom and wandering exiles.
      The exiles tales transpired from a Christian myth of “divine punishment” imposed on Jews for rejecting the new religion.

      The parable is likely to have originated from the Old Testament story of Jews wandering the desert for disobeying God and worshipping a golden calf.
      Christians propagated the concept of exile to lure “disobeying” Jews to the new religion, becoming their saviour from another eternal banishment.

      Modern political Zionism, which otherwise rejects the Christian Bible, adopted the untested story of “Jewish exile” to establish a mythical linkage between European Jews and the Middle East.

      But Jewish history tells us that the Romans did not expel the original Jews from Palestine when they crushed the Simon bar Kokhba revolt in 136 AD but instead barred them only from city of Jerusalem – and even then they were allowed to visit it during Tisha B’Av, the annual fasting day on the ninth day of the month of Av in the Hebrew calendar.

      Under Christianity and during the Roman Empire a large number of native Jews converted to Christianity and, with the advent of Islam, most adopted the new religion and assimilated under the new power.

      In addition to the descendants of the Canaanites, the original denizens before patriarch Abraham’s arrival from Mesopotamia, Sand concludes that today’s
      Muslim and Christian Palestinians are actually the true progenies of the original Jews.


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  25. My OGF lives in a state of the art walled compound in Vegas. That is what I would choose if I lived in Vegas. If I lived in Philly I would live in a walled compound if I could.

    Impish and curious minds are dying to know -

    Do you have some kind of fence or wall around your compound in Philly, Deuce?

    :)

    Come on now, fess up.

    If the answer if yes, please explain why.....

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  26. ratass ought to live in a walled compound of some kind - a prison, or a psycho ward.....

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    1. Farmer Bob decided to legally change his name to Farmer O-Bob-ma,

      http://www.greatperformances.com/the-dish/farmer-bob-becomes-official-white-house-garden-farmer#sthash.aKk1XmNx.dpuf


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  27. The first walled cities - very small - arose in the Mideast.

    That dust on the horizon?

    Not a sand storm........Bedouin.....!!!!

    Next day......not a living thing in the city.......

    Light bulb !!!!

    Build a WALL.....

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    1. Instead of Bedouin perhaps I should have said - desert rats !!!

      :)

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  28. There is no humor in Islam........remember that if one considers moving to Iran.....


    Monty Python star won't parody Islam: "There are people out there without a sense of humour and they’re heavily armed"



    MichaePalin.jpg


    Michael Palin here explains why jihad terrorism works, and why it is on the rise worldwide today. "You can't parody Islam, says Palin: Monty Python star believes religious sensitivities have increased so much it would be impossible to make Life of Brian today," by Alasdair Glennie for the Daily Mail, December 29:

    During his Monty Python days he poked fun at everyone from the Establishment to Christianity.
    But thanks to the threat of ‘heavily armed’ fanatics, Michael Palin has admitted there is one comedy taboo he is too scared to break- Islam.

    The 70-year-old said religious sensitivities have increased so much since his comedy days it would now be impossible to make 1979 film Life of Brian - which satirised the life of Jesus - let alone laugh at Muslims.

    He said: ‘Religion is more difficult to talk about. I don’t think we could do Life of Brian any more. A parody of Islam would be even harder.

    ‘We all saw what happened to Salman Rushdie and none of us want to get into all that. It’s a pity but that’s the way it is. There are people out there without a sense of humour and they’re heavily armed.’ ....


    Posted by Robert Spencer on December 30, 2013 10:27 PM

    Jihad Watch

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    1. While the Jews have given the USA and the world some of its very best humor.......

      One group celebrates humor and joy while the other is grim grim grim.....

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  29. Looks like Egypt may label Hamas a terrorist group......

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  30. Indian and Pakistan were unable to live together. Pakistan and Bangladesh the same.

    Sometimes being apart is the best thing.

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  31. Funny thing, everywhere that the British went, slavery, ethnic discord and brutality were left in their wake.

    heh, heh, heh!


    bob

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