Mother of woman killed following Capitol car chase says daughter had post-partum depression
By Associated Press, Updated: Friday, October 4, 3:16 AM
NEW YORK — The mother of a Connecticut woman who was shot to death by police after trying to breach a barrier at the White House said her daughter was suffering from post-partum depression.
Authorities said the woman set off a high-speed car chase that put the Capitol on lockdown Thursday and caused a fresh panic the city where a gunman killed 12 people two weeks ago.
Two law enforcement officials identified the driver as 34-year-old Miriam Carey, of Stamford, Conn. She was traveling with a 1-year-old girl who avoided serious injury and was taken into protective custody. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss an ongoing investigation.
Carey’s mother, Idella Carey, told ABC News Thursday night that her daughter began suffering from post-partum depression after giving birth to her daughter, Erica, last August.
“She had post-partum depression after having the baby” she said. She added, “A few months later, she got sick. She was depressed. ... She was hospitalized.”
Idella Carey said her daughter had “no history of violence” and she didn’t know why she was in Washington, D.C., on Thursday. She said she thought Carey was taking Erica to a doctor’s appointment in Connecticut.
ABC News reported that Miriam Carey was a dental hygienist. Her boss, Dr. Steven Oken, described Carey as a person who was “always happy.”
I would never in a million years believe that she would do something like this,” he said. “It’s the furthest thing from anything I would think she would do, especially with her child in the car. I am floored that it would be her.”
Watch the first 12 seconds of this video. We do not know what happened before the video. We will know.
ReplyDeleteThe black Infiniti was chased by police cars and when cornered, uniformed and non uniformed police with drawn guns (around the 8 second mark) started shooting at the 22 seconds mark. 14 seconds elapsed from the time the car was trapped and tried to escape before at least seven shots were fired.
Inside the car was a young mother and a baby. Fight or flight is the most primitive and predictable normal human response to fright. Police armed with military assault rifles are dressed, profiled and designed to intimidate. Screaming police cars, men with drawn weapons, a high speed car chase, a screaming baby and a panicked and confused young mother shot to death is not a pretty sight.
How did it happen? It happened in flowered gardens filled with tourists and streets loaded with police and barriers placed to inhibit cars but designed to not be intrusive to the open scene. The combination is confusing to those unfamiliar to the area.
My sympathies do not accrue to the police. I have personal experience with their predisposition to arrogance, intimidation and volatility. Staring at a drawn gun in this case multiplied by the number of potential shooters into the teens is terrifying. The woman’s instincts to flee such danger were justified by the ultimate confirmation of her fears. She was shot and killed. Police and security forces should be trained for such incidents . A young motheris not.
I am highly skeptical and suspicious about how this horrible incident occurred. I will wait and see. I will say this. If the government needs to have military assault forces implanted in gardens, let’s cut the bull shit. Build the forts, towers and the walls .Man the turrets with uniformed armed guards and take away the deception and artifice that DC is anything friendly, homely and inviting. Make the symbolism an accurate and obvious depiction of what it really is.
I have personal experience with their predisposition to arrogance, intimidation and volatility.
ReplyDeleteAs do I.
I also have experience with the helpful, kind and caring Officers.
I hope you have had some positive dealings with them as well.
The choice is not only Fight or Flight.
There is the decision to Freeze to save your own life.
Spelled "Brains"
DeleteAs in, don't slam a White Hispanics Head into the pavement, and The Lord Will Reward.
Delete...esp an armed White Hispanic's Head
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DeleteI remember feeling grateful that I lived in the then Great State of California, not in some Shithole like Philly where the cops were corrupt thugs on par with the LAPD.
DeleteMy next and last encounter with a Police Officer was in San Luis Obispo, CA, when my normally brilliant wife did not insist on driving us home from a party.
Delete(Post Postpartum symptoms were something that neither she nor me understood or knew anything about, at the time.)
Cop got all the classic answers that all Police Officers and Judges have heard a Million Times:
"Yeah, I had a couple of Beers"
Then, after being handcuffed
(I think every First Timer must at this point insist that "This really isn't necessary, officer, the Wife can just drive me home.)
When we got to the joint, I was heavy into deep breathing, hoping to air out the Rufus Fuel Fumes, and must have acted like I didn't know how to use the BlowOMeter, 'cause the cop asked me:
"Domnt you know how to blow up a balloon?"
I responded with a look of total shame and humiliation, then blew my way into jail.
The cop seemed to respect my honesty wrt to this matter, at least, and his report did not include any reference to drunk and disorderly, simply, Drunk.
Rethinking, after seeing the "Domnt" brainfart, I think the officer's words were:
Delete"You don't know how to blow up a balloon?"
I prepared this post, and the following one prior to coming to this "Libertarians" Abode, (I was more comfortable in the bar, but I'm sure my faithful readers already knew that.)
ReplyDeleteI will watch your video, and reconsider, if it's different than mine, and convincing.
Otherwise, she'll remain in Doug's BlackHellHole until further notice.
Michelle Hussein Obama:
ReplyDelete"If I had had another daughter, she coulda looked like Miriam."
Miriam Carey was One Kickass Bitch Driver
You go, Gurl!
(Black Hell Grand Prix)
ReplyDelete...if only she coulda took out Nancy, Harry, and BO, I woulda crowned her Queen of White Gurl Heaven.
...just a little longer than mine.
ReplyDelete(none of you fuckers can't say that about my unit)
Anyhoo, she's just a crazy-ass bitch that failed to take out the sick fuck triumvirate of Nancy, Harry, and Smelly Fellah BO.
...she paid the price.
Pray that her offspring got Dad's Genes in the Brain Department.
...otherwise it will be rinse and repeat for our children to endure.
Here's a tip from Survivalist Doug:
ReplyDeleteNext time you're pulled over by someone with flashing lights on their roof:
Just say:
"WTF is up with you, PIG?"
Stay safe, pirates.
Farmer Bob comes home with a Duck under his arm, and says:
ReplyDelete"This is the Pig I've been Fucking"
Bob's wife says:
"That's not a pig, that's a duck."
Bob Sez:
"I wasn't talking to you."
---
Sincerely, your Misogynistic Widower in Mourning.
(Maybe I'll get a gig in drive time radio?)
"Let The Widower Get You to Work in the Morning"
show.
aka, "Doug Doesn't Duck the Hard Stuff"
DeleteThat means you too,
Number Two.
Did she fire at the police as originally reported?
ReplyDeleteThink She just almost ran over their asses.
DeleteWhich would give this guy a reason to fire, if armed.
...clearly a menace to public safety.
And mine.
Maybe she was one of those Sammy Davis Blacks.
Delete...in which case we can all get on board the Blame the Jew Parade.
If she'd been Asian,
Deletewe'd all be in agreement, right?
Libertarians for Outlawing Asian Women Drivers.
DeleteDoug wrote, "...in which case we can all get on board the Blame the Jew Parade"
DeleteDoug, the day is young, give it time. :-)
Was Sammy Davis Jr a Jew that believed in God, or was he one of those atheist Jews?
DeleteOne of the 20% of American Jews that do not think Judaism is a religion?
One of the 68% of Jews in the US that think Israel is obstructing peace in the Middle East?
Error alert ...
DeleteIt should have read 62%
One of the 62% of Jews in the US that think Israel is obstructing peace in the Middle East?
Or was Sammy just an "Affinity Jew", sort of like President Obama ...
DeleteBarack Hussein Obama -The first Jewish President of the United States
as reported in the Chicago Jewish News.
That Landrover Driver Shoulda thrown his wife and kid out as bait for the Wolves, like they did in Czarist Russia.
ReplyDeleteKid woulda been immortalized as
ReplyDelete"Wolfbait Two"
The Sequel.
...after they ate out his wife.
DeleteRufus IIThu Oct 03, 03:05:00 PM EDT
ReplyDeleteThat must suck; Capital Hill policeman goes in to work, without pay, and gets shot for the trouble.
Must really suck being shot by friendly fire. Oh that's right that NEVER happens. The Cop was clearly a cop, the other cops should have been able to SEE clearly the cop was not a threat.
Maybe it was cloudy?
DeleteAf the first round of shooting, Friendly Fire could have been a nifty excuse.
DeleteBut when his fellow officers came back and shot him for the fourth time, that excuse rang hollow.
In my very limited experience with the police, our State Patrol is invariably better trained and polite than the local city police.
ReplyDeleteNot that our local city police are that bad, but the Staters are better trained.
Investigators have found indications that the woman who led authorities on a chase from the White House to the Capitol before she was shot to death by police thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her, law enforcement sources told NBC News.
ReplyDeleteThe sources said that the woman, Miriam Carey, had a history of mental health problems.
The chase, on Thursday afternoon, stirred panic in the capital and briefly stopped the mechanisms of government. It happened two weeks after a man shot 12 people to death at the Washington Navy Yard.
Members of the House and Senate, in a standoff over the government shutdown, were ordered to stay in place. One lawmaker was cut off mid-sentence during a speech. A swarm of police startled tourists who were taking in Washington on a summery day.
Carey, 34, was a dental hygienist living in Stamford, Conn. Details of her background began to emerge in the hours after the episode.
Dr. Barry Weiss, a dentist, told NBC Connecticut that Carey was working for him in January 2012 when she suffered a fall and missed two to three weeks. He said that she appeared increasingly stressed after an unplanned pregnancy. Relatives have said that she may have suffered postpartum depression.
Weiss said that he fired her in August 2012 after patients complained that she was too rough.
Carey was driving a black Infiniti sedan when, just after 2 p.m. ET, she struck a security fence outside the White House. She took off after hitting a Secret Service officer with her car.
From there, police said, she sped up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol, reaching 80 mph at one point. Police and the Secret Service stopped her at the foot of the Capitol, but she jammed the car into reverse and took off again as police opened fire.
Carey led police on a chase around the perimeter of the Capitol and crashed her car outside a Senate office building a few minutes later, police said. The police shot at her, and she died a short time later. The chase was captured on video.
A Capitol police officer was hurt as he was speeding to confront her and hit a barrier that popped up in the street. The two injured officers were exempt from the government shutdown and required to work but were not being paid.
Carey had an 18-month-old child, believed to be her daughter, in the car, authorities said. The girl was taken to a hospital and found to be unharmed. She was in the protection of social services Friday.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20816675-woman-in-dc-chase-may-have-thought-obama-was-stalking-her-sources-say?lite
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/04/20816675-woman-in-dc-chase-may-have-thought-obama-was-stalking-her-sources-say?lite
ReplyDeleteBy Pete Williams and Erin McClam, NBC News
Investigators have found indications that the woman who led authorities on a chase from the White House to the Capitol before she was shot to death by police thought that President Barack Obama was stalking her, law enforcement sources told NBC News.
The sources said that the woman, Miriam Carey, had a history of mental health problems.
The chase, on Thursday afternoon, stirred panic in the capital and briefly stopped the mechanisms of government. It happened two weeks after a man shot 12 people to death at the Washington Navy Yard.
Members of the House and Senate, in a standoff over the government shutdown, were ordered to stay in place. One lawmaker was cut off mid-sentence during a speech. A swarm of police startled tourists who were taking in Washington on a summery day.
Carey, 34, was a dental hygienist living in Stamford, Conn. Details of her background began to emerge in the hours after the episode.
Dr. Barry Weiss, a dentist, told NBC Connecticut that Carey was working for him in January 2012 when she suffered a fall and missed two to three weeks. He said that she appeared increasingly stressed after an unplanned pregnancy. Relatives have said that she may have suffered postpartum depression
Weiss said that he fired her in August 2012 after patients complained that she was too rough.
Carey was driving a black Infiniti sedan when, just after 2 p.m. ET, she struck a security fence outside the White House. She took off after hitting a Secret Service officer with her car.
From there, police said, she sped up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol, reaching 80 mph at one point. Police and the Secret Service stopped her at the foot of the Capitol, but she jammed the car into reverse and took off again as police opened fire.
Carey led police on a chase around the perimeter of the Capitol and crashed her car outside a Senate office building a few minutes later, police said. The police shot at her, and she died a short time later. The chase was captured on video.
A Capitol police officer was hurt as he was speeding to confront her and hit a barrier that popped up in the street. The two injured officers were exempt from the government shutdown and required to work but were not being paid.
Carey had an 18-month-old child, believed to be her daughter, in the car, authorities said. The girl was taken to a hospital and found to be unharmed. She was in the protection of social services Friday.
Katy Tur of NBC News contributed to this report.
Slideshow: Capitol car chase puts DC on edge
Apologies for screwed up double post.
DeleteApology not accepted.
Delete...get the blog administrator to bring back the Shit Can.
He only deletes my posts....
DeleteHe deleted three or four of mine the other day, WiO, saying I had said enough.
DeleteWas it twenty years ago that a man entered the Capitol and killed some folks? As I recall, that incident led to very tight security for the Capitol...seems that an aid to the future speaker was killed.
DeleteHad security failed to respond robustly, they would be damned for that. Getting that close to the car was unwise IMO; the chase might have been a diversion to draw in as many first responders as possible before detonating a car bomb. It has happened before.
I have no high regard for "county mounties", but in the instance, I am going to give them a pass.
Anon, excellent point on the Navy Yard mass murder such a short time ago.
DeleteAny kinda Mountie that mounts only eights or above got my respect.
Delete...unless they're Canadian Cheese Eating Canadian Mounties.
Like Ass.
correction: "Ash"
One of the many times mounted among us.
I wonder what woulda happened if she had just froze, like DougBoy suggests above, and put her hands above her head?
ReplyDelete...but displaying The Diamond Dallas Page Diamond Cutter Sign w/her fingers?
Heavy
In the indictment against Ulbricht, filed in a New York court, the FBI cyber-crime specialist who led the investigation, Christopher Tarbell, stated that he believed "that this 'economic simulation' referred to by Ulbricht is Silk Road."
ReplyDelete...
According to the indictment, Silk Road had acquired nearly a million registered users worldwide -- about 30% of whom were based in the U.S. -- in its two and a half years of operation, providing them guidance on how to encrypt their communications and vacuum-pack their wares before shipping through the postal service to avoid detection by law enforcement. Last year, it said, the site added a "stealth mode" for users who considered themselves "at risk of becoming a target for law enforcement."
The indictment said the site had generated over 9.5 million bitcoins in sales revenue and over 600,000 bitcoins in commissions for its owner, allowing the site to employ a team of administrators. The value of bitcoins has fluctuated dramatically since the digital currency was created -- it plummeted after Ulbricht's arrest -- but Tarbell estimated Silk Road's turnover to be worth about $1.2 billion in sales, and $80 million in commissions.
In February, an Australian drug dealer became the first person to be convicted in connection to Silk Road after using the site to import cocaine and MDMA from Europe.
Catching the Dread Pirate Robert
Founded in 2011, and earning a reported $80 million in commissions ....
Dread Pirate Robert must have been rolling in cash.
... Tarbell said that while Dread Pirate Roberts used a "virtual private network," or VPN, to create a "false" IP address, the VPN server's records indicated a user had accessed it from a San Francisco Internet café near the home of a friend Ulbricht had gone to live with around September last year.
...
In July, Ulbricht was visited in San Francisco by Homeland Security agents who had intercepted a package from Canada containing fake ID documents in nine different names, each bearing a photograph of Ulbricht.
According to the indictment, Ulbricht -- whose roommates knew him as "Josh," and said he was always at home on his computer -- refused to answer questions about the IDs, but told the agents that "hypothetically" anyone could go on the Silk Road and purchase them.
Maybe you are next for arrest? One can only hope...
DeleteThere we have Dread Pirate Robert, whose website is reported to have generated $1.2 Billion in sales, $80 million in commision income for Dread Pirate Robert ...
DeleteLiving in a house, with roommates who thought his name was Josh.
Dread Pirate Robert, a fella who reportedly had tens of millions of dollars in commission income,
was living with strangers, in a rented room there in San Francisco.
Luckily, your reminder to me to rejoin the Jimmy Buffet Pirate Brigades kept me inline and outta trouble all these years.
DeleteMuchos Gauchos, and Cowboys, Two.
What is the HIV rate in Key West Vs San Fran?
Deletedesert rat wrote, "Dread Pirate Robert, a fella who reportedly had tens of millions of dollars in commission income,
Deletewas living with strangers, in a rented room there in San Francisco."
It was the game DR, it was all about the game. J. Paul Getty once said that adventurers like himself did not work for the money. Money was merely the means of keeping score.
Hope?
DeleteYou are starting to act like Obama, now.
Unwilling to address the real issues, unable to produce any results
Time for a change.
Obama IS hope and change:
DeleteIs this 'Rat lost in a Rabbit Hole?
Well, allen, if Dread Pirate Robert was just playing a game ...
DeleteOne would think he'd do it from an apartment, with a view.
An expert in Anonymous living, with tens of millions of dollars at his disposal ...
Living with roommates who did not know his name, but were referred to as "friends".
J P Getty did not live in a rented room, with strangers, allen.
Beginning in the early 1930s Getty lived in a house he built next to William Randolph Hearst’s on the beach in Santa Monica. During World War II he moved to Tulsa, Oklahoma for four years to supervise wartime production of parts for Allied aircraft at his Spartan Aircraft plant. In 1946 he purchased 64 acres in Malibu, California and renovated the existing hacienda, known as the Ranch House, where he lived until 1951. When Getty departed the United States for Europe in 1951, he kept his Malibu estate for the display of his art collection and for the possibility of his eventual return. ...
In Europe JP lived in hotels suites, not anonymously with roommates.
The Dread Pirate Robert, just does not fit the lifestyle profile of a criminal mastermind, sitting on millions of dollars of on-line income.
After his initial interview with DHS agents, any anonymous criminal mastermind, with millions of dollars at his disposal, would have left that roommate room, and gone underground ...
DeleteCertainly you'd not think his relationship with his "friends" would have been enough to keep him there, once he knew that the authorities were alerted and on his trail.
Dread Pirate Robert, it just does not "add" up.
That is Farmer Fudd, doug, with his head in the hole.
DeleteHe is looking for a way to apologize to Deuce, without admitting that his false claims, accusations of criminality and the destruction of evidence in an FBI investigation were just fictionalized fantasies and propaganda that he bought in to, whole clothe, from the "Candyman".
Or ...
Deletemaybe that is just his ostrich imitation.
He'll be there for a while until he thinks no one can see him.
Then, he is hoping, he'll be anonymous again
A dread pirate, Robert
Report: D.C. attacker was a Conn. dental hygienist with a history of mental illness
ReplyDeletePOSTED AT 10:01 PM ON OCTOBER 3, 2013 BY MARY KATHARINE HAM
The bizarre attack at the White House and Capitol today was reportedly perpetrated by a 34-year-old dental hygienist licensed in Connecticut. Miriam Carey, who was killed by law enforcement after ramming White House barricades and fleeing to the Capitol, had a toddler in the car with her, according to New York Post reporting:
Sources said Miriam Carey, who formerly lived in Brooklyn, was licensed to practice in New York and Connecticut and had a permit to work as a hygienist in Connecticut prisons.
At least a dozen gunshots were fired when she tried to flee cops, who had trapped her two blocks from the Capitol. She was believed to have been hit several times.
A child believed to be a girl about 2 or 3 years old was found unhurt in her black Infiniti sedan, which had Connecticut license plates.
Authorities had no immediate explanation of the woman’s motive. But Capitol Police chief Kim Dine told reporters there was no reason to believe it was an act of terrorism “or anything other than an isolated incident.”
ABC News said the 34-year-old woman had a history of mental health issues. A task force of FBI and Secret Service agents was executing a search warrant at her Connecticut home, CNN said.
Thank God the child seems to have been unharmed, considering the intensity and confusion of the confrontation and the number of shots fired. “Video images showed a young child, her hair in braids, being carried by an officer to the back of a patrol car,” according to the Washington Post, which identifies her as a 1-year-old daughter:
Her sister, Amy Carey, a Brooklyn nurse, was incredulous when she was reached Thursday afternoon and told what had happened outside the Capitol.
“That’s impossible. She works, she holds a job,” said Amy Carey, who confirmed that her Stamford-based sister drove a black car. She said she knew of nothing that would bring her sister to Washington. “She wouldn’t be in D.C. She was just in Connecticut two days ago, I spoke to her. . . . I don’t know what’s happening. I can’t answer any more.”
Buzzfeed has a picture of Carey.
Before we knew any of this, though, at least one person on Capitol Hill had to blame the incident on the government shutdown. You can always count on Sheila Jackson Lee.
video
from Hot Air
"Fight or flight is the most primitive and predictable normal human response to fright."
DeleteWhat is it about primitive that you do not get, Anon?
And what's up w/that Duck?
I refuse to interact with those that mock and humiliate me.
Delete:)
But I can tell you this: what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
One thing's fershure:
DeleteIt takes a stout constitution to spend 8 hours a day smelling Halitosis and scraping off dental plaque.
...at least Dentists get paid a living wage.
---
She shoulda bought a Corolla instead of an Infiniti, and used the bucks to buy a shrink.
Nobody Ganders at my Goose.
DeleteThey're simply known as another Sloppy Seconds Guy after I'm done w/my business w/them.
"ON" them.
DeleteAlways on top.
Speaking of,
DeleteWhere's Quirk?
My dental hygienist is a Filipino Chick (what else? usually, here) who runs Marathons.
Delete...I'd trust her with my life, not to mention my Dental Caries.
Reminds me of the time I caried the ball for 3 yards, setting The Avenal Buccaneers up for a win.
Delete...in overtime.
Against BAKERSFIELD!
DeleteFuck Fracking, I'm in w/Rufus and the Boys from the Still.
Motto:
Delete"Better Still"
Or, as the rappers would say:
Delete"Don't Dis DisStill"
Who was the Bastard here that called Avenal a Prison Town?
DeleteWas that yew, WIO Jew?
In my day, it was hot young Petroleum Engineers attending Rotary Club Meetings as guests w/my dad, then they'd come back for crackers, cocktails, and snacks, then they'd have their ways w/little Dougie in his bedroom.
Those Were The Days...
Frack On, Motherfuckekrs!
"frackers"
DeleteThe Greatest Movie Ever Filmed
DeleteI was Rocky Hightower, not Robin Williams, the Schmuck.
Bakersfield sucked our Dicks.
There really was a "Hightower" on the Avenal Buc's Football team.
DeleteHonest.
My neighbor's dad, a welder, dropped something from a hightower.
DeleteKilled a man.
Not Good.
They had plenty of Drilling Mud in Taft, CA, for the special effects boys in Hollywood to use.
Delete...for a special effects.
So to speak.
DougFri Oct 04, 09:07:00 AM EDT
DeleteSpeaking of,
Where's Quirk?
In the can, got arrested for practicing medicine without a license. Had opened up an outfit called:
"Quirk's QuikCare and Surgeries" -
ObamaCare Patients Preferred
Kickbacks Available
Our nurses are hot
For appointment write
QQC@S
Box 100001
Detroit, Michigan
Was going to bail him out but lost money at the Casino.
He may be out now though, or he may have smuggled a computer into his cell.
He's a survivor, don't worry about ol' Quirk, Doug-O.
If you guys want to see video of cops 'gone wild' check out videos of the Yatim shooting in Toronto. Here is a link to one of them
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG6OTyjzAgg
The cops have been taking heat on this big time
I thought you Canadians were civilized.
DeleteNever did see Sammy on that, but they certainly had him surrounded with no escape possible.
DeleteSeems totally unjustified.
Did Sammy have a gun?
Of course Sammy had a gun.
DeleteHe was "Black", he was "Jewish"
http://www.riflemanconnors.com/sammy_davis_jr.htm
A "Gangsta" that wanted to be a cowboy, baby.
Spent a lot of time in Vegas, riding fillies.
Pictures are worth a thousand words.
Actually Sammy had no gun - he had a knife with a 2" blade. Not only did the cop shoot him 5 times (I think 1 missed) he paused for awhile and then shot him 3 more times while he lay on the ground and then another cop ran up and tased him. He died.
DeleteDifferent Sammy.
DeleteShame that they are both dead.
I always like the "Candyman", he was Mr Bojangles.
Unless he was being Sammy Dais Jr.
Sammy had a whole cast of characters dancing around in his head.
Lots of interesting stuff at JihadWatch and Front Page today, but I'm not allowed to post it.
ReplyDeleteCheck it out yourselves if you wish.
Capitol Suspect Miriam Carey Believed Obama Electronically Monitored Her
ReplyDeleteCapitol Suspect's Mom: 'She Was Depressed... She Was Hospitalized'NEXT VIDEO
Woman Killed Allegedly Trying To Breach White House Gate
The woman who led police on a high-speed chase near the U.S. Capitol before being shot dead had a history of mental illness and believed President Obama was electronically monitoring her Connecticut home in order to broadcast her life on television, sources said.
Sources told ABC News that Connecticut police had twice in 2012 been called by Miriam Carey's boyfriend, who reported the woman was delusional, acting irrationally and putting her infant daughter in danger.
Carey, 34, a dental hygienist from Stamford, Conn., was killed by police Thursday after trying to ram a White House gate and leading cops on a chase down Pennsylvania Avenue with her 1-year-old daughter in the car. The toddler was uninjured and placed in police custody.
According to sources Carey believed she was the "prophet of Stamford" and was capable of communicating with Obama.
Her mother, Idella Carrey, told ABC News that her daughter had been hospitalized after suffering post-partum depression.
On Dec. 10, 2012, police were called to Carey's home by her boyfriend Eric Francis, 54, father of her baby. Francis told police Carey was emotionally disturbed and he believed his daughter was in danger, according to sources.
Carey told police President Obama had placed Stamford on lockdown and had arranged to have her home electronically monitored and her life broadcast on television, sources said.
Police handcuffed Carey and remanded her for a mental health evaluation. According to sources, Carey had a family history of schizophrenia and was taking medication for a mental illness.
On Dec. 21, Francis again called police to report his girlfriend was "off her medication" and acting erratically.
In January, the source said, a state social worker met with Carey and Francis and Francis told the social worker that Carey was "100 percent back to normal." Carey told the social worker she had been diagnosed with post-partum depression, was on prescription medication, and was receiving treatment, the source said
http://abcnews.go.com/US/capitol-suspect-miriam-carey-believed-obama-electronically-monitored/story?id=20470498
She might have been right. Are we not all monitored now?
DeleteOctober 4, 2013
DeleteWhy did Capitol police open fire on an unarmed woman?
Rick Moran
The woman who first crashed her car into barricades at the White House before leading police on a chase down Pennsylvania avenue to the Capitol and crashing through barriers was eventually shot to death despite being unarmed.
Could her death have been avoided? Probably not, say authorities:
CBS News correspondent John Miller reports there will likely be an internal investigation into the Capitol Hill car chase that ended with the driver dead.
Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier confirms shots were fired in at least two locations during the chase.
Authorities will want to know what was going through the minds of the officers who opened fire.
Miller says once the car crashed into the barriers outside the White House, training instincts would kick in for officers and Secret Service agents.
Because the White House and Capitol building are sensitive locations, their training and reactions would be heightened.
They would have to assume it was a terror attack and consider the possibility that it might be a car bomb.
Afterwards, police described what happened as an isolated event and said they saw no indications of terrorism.
One can certainly understand the reaction of police. But did they open fire when her car crashed the barricades at the White House? If so, how did they miss her? If not, why?
I find it astonishing that she was able to drive all the way down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol building and crash some barriers there before being taken down.
Carey was driving a black Infiniti sedan when, just after 2 p.m. ET, she struck a security fence outside the White House. She took off after hitting a Secret Service officer with her car.
From there, police said, she sped up Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol, reaching 80 mph at one point. Police and the Secret Service stopped her at the foot of the Capitol, but she jammed the car into reverse and took off again as police opened fire.
Carey led police on a chase around the perimeter of the Capitol and crashed her car outside a Senate office building a few minutes later, police said. The police shot at her, and she died a short time later.
Here's a video of the chase.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/why_did_capitol_police_open_fire_on_an_unarmed_woman.html#ixzz2gljTGZZh
She was delusional, in thinking that the world was conspiring against her.
DeleteShe was acting irrationally, thinking that Obama had a decoder ring ...
...that the President had "special powers", the ability to "read between the lines".
Miriam was bouncing like a ping pong ball between irrational extremes.
She even thought that hitting the delete button on her personal computer would erase the data sets from Google servers,
rather than just masking it from public view.
She was irrational, a threat to all of society, but especially herself.
She was a little like you then.
DeleteThere were even reports that Miriam believed that the President of the United States should be a ...
Delete"Strong MAN"
Her delusions led her to think the US would be better served with a Dictator than with a man or woman dedicated to policies of moderation and democratic compromise.
Clearly she was irrational, delusional, a nut case.
Kind of like my first wife.
Anonymous, you are wrong, again
Deletedesert rat knows hat when a comment is deleted from a thread ...
... it is not erased from the server.
dessert rat knows that it is ludicrous to think that the FBI would be stifled in an investigation of murder by such a simple ruse, by masking the comment data sets that were the supposed confessions from public view.
desert rat knows a little about the technologies he uses.
It would be irrational not to.
The case of Dread Pirate Robert is a validation of just that dogged pursuit of criminals on the world wide web, by the FBI.
That Dread Pirate Robert used the world wide web and thought he could remain anonymous, an irrational delusion
The guilty tend to flee when the police are in pursuit.
The guilty often flee to compounds, secure villages and mountain top palaces, when they flee from the "Law", from authority.
DeleteThroughout history there are instances of mas suicide of entire communities of those outlaws that craved to be controlled by a "Strong MAN".
Whole communities of zealots that chose communal death over individual responsibility.
Kind of pathological, seems to me.
Indeed, there have been entire nations that have followed a "Strong MAN" to complete and utter devastation
DeleteA devastation that was easily foreseen and warned against, by the rational amongst them.
Where millions committed a form of mass suicide, over the course of years.
Where hundreds of thousands marched to certain death in far away camps,
rather than to face an fight that they thought they could lose.
Whether by culture or genetics, mass delusions form social pathologies.
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DeleteSpeaking of pathologies...
The rat knows...
I've noticed the rat has taken to referring to himself in the third person more and more these days.
Illeism: is the act of referring to oneself in the third person instead of first person.
It is a literary device used to
- impart an air of objective impartiality to the account, which included justifications of the author's actions. In this way personal bias is presented, albeit dishonestly, as objectivity.
- It can also be used as a device to illustrate the feeling of "being outside one's body and watching things happen", a psychological disconnect resulting from dissonance either from trauma such as childhood physical or sexual abuse, or from psychotic episodes of actions that can't be reconciled with the individual's own self-image
- A common device in science fiction is for robots, computers, and other artificial life to refer to themselves in the third person, e.g. "This unit is malfunctioning" or "Number Five is alive" (famously said by Johnny Five in Short Circuit), to suggest that these creatures are not truly self-aware, or else that they separate their consciousness from their physical form.
- Illeism is also a device used to show idiocy, such as the character Mongo in Blazing Saddles, e.g. "Mongo like candy" and "Mongo only pawn in game of life." (Note also the lack of articles and verb inflection in both sentences.)
In everyday use it can be employed to
- Illeism in everyday speech can have a variety of intentions depending on context. One common usage is to impart humility, a common practice in feudal societies and other societies where honorifics are important to observe ("Your servant awaits your orders"), as well as in master–slave relationships ("This slave needs to be punished"). The use of illeism in this context imparts a sense of lack of self, implying a diminished importance of the speaker in relation to the addressee or to a larger whole.
- Conversely, in different contexts, illeism can be used to reinforce self-promotion, as used to sometimes comic effect by Bob Dole throughout his political career. This was particularly made notable during the United States presidential election, 1996 and lampooned broadly in popular media for years afterwards.
- Similarly illeism is used with an air of grandeur, to give the speaker lofty airs. Idiosyncratic and conceited people are known to either use or are lampooned as using illeism to puff themselves up or illustrate their egoism.
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DeleteSorry, rat.
I forgot to add the
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DeleteAnd the quote should have been, "desert rat knows..."
Sorry, I was chuckling at the time.
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Delete...training instincts would kick in for officers...
Am I mistaken in believing the term 'training instincts' is an oxymoron? If so what is the difference between learned behavior and instincts if there is one.
Perhaps, our literary critic Jenny would like to comment.
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The dessert rat is insane.
DeleteI would answer you thus, Q, about desert rat in third person.
DeleteBeginning with two of the greatest works of American literature.
"The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" and The Adventures of Tom Sawyer"
Both pieces of social commentary that touched the world.
Were they penned by Mark Twain, or authored by Samuel Clemens?
When did Benjamin Franklin's nom de plum's become Ben, himself?
When writing of Mrs Dogood, Ben would not use first person singular.
Mrs Dogood was a character, Q.
"A penny saved is a penny earned" is a quote attributable to Richard Saunders, published by Ben Franklin.
Why does an author let the nom de plum become dominant
Tom Clancy, when speaking of his Jack Ryan character would not say "I"
desert rat is a character, I've written that numerous times.
Some chose not to believe, I must write well ;-)
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Delete"I've noticed the rat has taken to referring to himself in the third person more and more these days"
DeleteI have noticed that as well. Beginning to think of himself as King Rat, King of Ratland.
rat is insane..
There are a whole bevy of characters to choose from.
DeleteHistorical, fictional ...
Each tell their own part of the story.
Each present a different perspective on the whole.
And it better suits the capabilities of the technological platform.
Presents an entire spectrum of thought, rather than the singularity found through the limitation of narrow focus upon a typecast character.
Those that refuse to think outside of the box will be nailed into it,
As I've told you boys, time and again
That's Entertainment!
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DeleteSo you are saying that your pathology is not really one of Illeism but rather one of multiple personality disorder?
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Not that at all, Q.
DeleteIt is a matter of plot progression.
It is a matter of technological advances.
It is a matter of better entertainment.
Better storytelling.
Which, as any English Lit major would tell you, is what "it" is all about ...
.... little matter if Alfie even cares.
I would deny that it is a pathology, at all.
I'd say that it is a matter of a internalizing the singularity of a unique personality, with no multiplying factor in that function.
I'd say that it is a matter of an internalization of the singularity within a unique personality, with no multiplying factors externalized by that functional character.
Delete;-)
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DeleteAnd I'd reply you are full of shit.
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It flows on a regular basis.
DeleteNo Metamucil® required
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Republican leaders have pointed the finger directly at the Tea Party. "We have to do this because of the Tea Party," Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), head of the House Republicans' campaign arm, said to GOP donors in New York City last month, per the Daily Beast. "If we don't these guys are going to get primaried and they are going to lose their primary."
ReplyDeleteAnd with Obama refusing to negotiate over his health-care law (when it comes to the government shutdown or debt ceiling), even Tea Party members don't know what they want from the standoff.
...... as a CBS News poll shows a plurality of Americans, by a 44 percent to 35 percent margin, blame Republicans for the shutdown more than Democrats or President Obama.
What's more, the most recent NBC/WSJ poll found that the Tea Party was more unpopular nationally (25 percent positive, 42 percent negative)
than the Republican Party (28 percent positive, 44 percent negative),
the Democratic Party (40 percent positive, 38 percent negative),
and Obama (45 percent positive, 42 percent negative).
In 2011, Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who co-conducts the NBC/WSJ poll, made this point about the Tea Party that seems to hold up today.
“It may be hard to understand why a person might jump off a cliff, unless you understand they’re being chased by a tiger,” McInturff said.
“That tiger is the Tea Party.”
The Tea Baggers can win in the primaries, but lose in the General elections
Consider:
-- Three Tea Party candidates in 2010 -- Sharron Angle, Ken Buck and Christine O'Donnell -- lost winnable Senate races, ensuring the Democrats' Senate majority.
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-- Two more conservative candidates in 2012 -- Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock -- lost winnable Senate races in the red states of Missouri and Indiana, once again ensuring Democratic control of the Senate.
-- After a year-long presidential primary season, often a competition over who was the most conservative candidate, the GOP was left with a presidential nominee whose positions on immigration and social issues were out of step with battleground-state voters, according to exit polls.
Often there is a refrain ...
ReplyDelete"I have not done anything, so I do not mind the monitoring ..."
Which is answered with volleys of freedom, liberty and the 4th
Amendment to the Constitution.
But, what is not oft mentioned...
Is when the monitoring and the archived data bases are investigated, and show that the charges brought and allegations of criminality made ...
....were unfounded fabrications of prosecutors with an agenda other than truth and justice and the American Way.
That when the archive exists, it can be investigated, by competent and impartial agents of the law enforcement community and limit the power of guilt by innuendo and prosecutorial excess:
Not often spoke of, but now in evidence @.TheLibertarian.
Danny Lewin was an American-Israeli, a world-class Internet entrepreneur, and the very first person to be murdered by the Al-Qaeda barbarians on September 11, 2001. He was aboard the American Airlines Flight 11 plane out of Boston headed for Los Angeles when it was hijacked by the terrorists. A veteran of the special forces in the Israeli army, Lewin quickly understood what was going down. He spoke fluent Arabic and knew what the terrorists were saying. He single-handedly attempted to attack and subdue the terrorists. He was stabbed to death on the plane by terrorist Satam al-Suqami, a Saudi law student. Lewin was 31-years-old when he was murdered.
ReplyDeletehttp://frontpagemag.com/2013/steven-plaut/the-legacy-of-911-hero-danny-lewin/
In other words...
DeleteThe ex-commando made a faulty assessment of the tactical situation ...
Rather than by coordinating with his fellow passengers, or the crew,
He took single handed that failed to subdue the hijackers or retake the aircraft.
His ill prepared and individual actions, leading to his death, so shocked the passengers
it may have then precluded further organized action by the passengers and crew.
A combat competent member of the passenger contingent had been killed and "Made an Example" of.
As Fulton J Sheen said ;;;
“Patience is power.
Patience is not an absence of action;
rather it is "timing"
it waits on the right time to act,
We know from the experience of the Flight 93, hat same day, that a planned and organized resistance from the passenger contingent was enough to subdue the hijackers, but not to take control of the aircraft.
DeleteThe American Way prove more effective, that day.
If only you had been on the plane, all would have been well.
DeleteDesert rat, I knew I could count on you to say something nice.
DeleteDid it occur to you that Danny was the only man on that plane with the courage to confront the hijackers or that he might reasonably have expected other men to join him?
That is doubtful ...
DeleteFirst that I would get on one of those buses with wings.
There is one brand ... the "Airbus"....
Second that it would have made any difference.
Pure conjecture on your part Anonymous.
Given my flying skills, the best that could have been accomplished, everyone on board would have all died,
The only possible improvement, those deaths could have happened somewhere else.
You fellers continually over estimate my capabilities ...
DeleteLewin quickly understood what was going down. He spoke fluent Arabic and knew what the terrorists were saying. He single-handedly attempted to attack and subdue the terrorists.
The use of the word "quickly" does not indicate that was much consultation with the fellow passengers.
single-handedly attempted
Means he acted alone.
The criticism of the tactics employed in the failed attempt to subdue the hijackers and retake control of the aircraft stands on the quality, accuracy and completeness of the story being told..
Perhaps there is more to the story.
If so, the telling of it deserves improvement.
Because blogging, it's really about improving the story telling.
DeleteCommunicating better.
Delivering the message you are trying to convey.
Allowing the hidden messages, those that are there between the lines....
An opportunity to really flower, bloom and pollinate the world.
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DeleteRat, I can believe you read hidden messages, just as I suspect you often hear things that are not there and see things that neither generate nor reflect light or heat.
You gotsta stop licking them toads.
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Things that neither generate nor reflect light or heat.....
DeleteThey call those "Black Holes", Q.
Modern physics and Federally funded telescopes in outer-space make it generally known to those that have an open mind about science and cultural advancement.
People that move society forward can embrace the concept that there are things out there that neither generate or reflect heat or light. More massive than the sun, but merely a point of singularity in space/time.
According to Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity, if a black hole swallows you, your chances of survival are nil. You'll first be torn apart by the black hole's tidal forces, a process whimsically named spaghettification.
Eventually, you'll reach the singularity, where the gravitational field is infinitely strong.
At that point, you'll be crushed to an infinite density.
Unfortunately, general relativity provides no basis for working out what happens next.
"When you reach the singularity in general relativity, physics just stops, the equations break down,"
says Abhay Ashtekar of Pennsylvania State University.
objects
The search for the singularity, now that could also be classed as a social pathology, aye?
Delete.
DeleteThings that neither generate nor reflect light or heat.....
They call those "Black Holes", Q.
I believe your statement as you have worded it is incorrect.
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Allen was just outside to take the air. Allen thought that a year from now Allen could have been lying in his grave for a year. Allen thought, "Life is too short to take Allen too seriously."
ReplyDeleteJenny wrote, " Best and yes Allen, fuck off and get a room with chubbo!"
ReplyDeleteJenny, who is "chubbo"?
That's chubby's boy friend.
DeleteI think she is asking you to do an awful awful thing.
Just say "no".
Will do.
DeleteHe was a big man yesterday but, boy, you ought to see him now.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/world/asia/gen-vo-nguyen-giap-dies.html?_r=1&
There go his Jewish supporters, right out the door ...
ReplyDeletePa. governor compares gay marriage to incest
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Catalina Camia
Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett compared same-sex marriage to incest in a TV interview. The Republican made his comment in an interview that aired Friday, responding to a question about a statement made by state attorneys in court documents ...
Westmoreland was a wussy ...
ReplyDeleteHANOI, Oct 4 (Reuters) - General Vo Nguyen Giap, architect of Vietnam's military victories over France and the United States, died on Friday, aged 102, said.
The general was one of Vietnam's best known 20th century figures, ranked by historians among such military giants as Montgomery, Rommel and MacArthur.
The son of a peasant scholar, he was considered the mastermind of the historic defeat of the French in 1954 at Phu and the communist victory over U.S.-backed 21 years later.
He died Friday evening after several years in a Hanoi .
In a 2004 interview with Reuters in his spacious in central Hanoi, the old warrior preached peace and said Vietnam's independence wars were a "victory for colonised countries all over the world".
Giap recalled that on a visit to the in Geneva the previous year, he was handed a book to sign.
"I wrote...and signed Vo Nguyen Giap, General of Peace."
Born on Aug. 25, 1911, in central Vietnam, Giap was a close friend of the late revered president and was held in high regard alongside former prime minister Pham Van Dong.
But Giap's critics and his nemesis, the late U.S. General William C. Westmoreland, said he was effective partly because he was willing to sustain huge losses in pursuit of victory.
"Any American commander who took the same vast losses as General Giap would have been sacked overnight," Westmoreland was quoted as saying in Pulitzer Prize-winning author Stanley Karnow's 1983 book "Vietnam. A History."
Westmoreland did not understand what was required for Victory.
He tried to keep casualties low, and lost.
Those casualties, in the end, were for naught.
As i have often said ...
A general is just as good or just as bad as the troops under his command make him.
Westmoreland did not even give his troops the opportunity to make him good, much less great.
General Giap had no regard for the lives he expended so freely. His squandering of tens of thousands of good infantry explains, in part, the intractable poverty of Vietnam. Giap was responsible for the loss of an entire generation.
DeleteAs to Tet, Giap had exhausted his reserves and trembled in fear of the American counterattack that never came.
All true ...
DeleteGiap was not a skilled tactician.
At Tet he had no way to resupply his forward forces.
They were able to strike, seize but not hold any of their objectives.
Scattered across the country, as they were, each VC unit was eventually cut to pieces in the set piece warfare.
It certainly eliminated the core strength of the Viet Cong, a mostly indigenous force of South Vietnamese.
From a strictly military perspective, the US won the Tet Campaign. Hands down.
The early successes of the Viet Cong campaign did not play well in Peoria
Where the government storyline had been that the light we could discern in the distance, that it was the end of the tunnel.
It came as quite the shock that it was really a freight train loaded with munitions from the Soviet Union and China.
Rocked that pillar of integrity in broadcast journalism, Walter Cronkite, back on his heals.
LBJohnson never recovered.
Delete"One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion,
which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda."
The Viet Cong being an independent semi-autonomous force was seen as a comptior to Uncle o and the NVA, in the coming post-war organization of the South.
DeleteThe VC were almost competitors of the NVA, especially in the battle for the "Hearts and Minds" of the people in the South.
It some ways Tet is analogous to Stalin watching the Germans destroy the Polish Army, before rolling the Soviets into the fight..
A duplicitous bunch, those Commi bastards!
"On the 75th anniversary of a great calamity, Chamberlain remains for me a symbol of cravenness and naivety. Quite deservedly, he bears the mark of Cain."
ReplyDeletehttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidblair/100239845/on-the-75th-anniversary-of-munich-neville-chamberlain-deserves-the-condemnation-of-history/
UPDATE: Off-duty NYPD cop stood by while bikers beat dad...
ReplyDelete"Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier confirms shots were fired in at least two locations during the chase.
ReplyDeleteAuthorities will want to know what was going through the minds of the officers who opened fire.
Miller says once the car crashed into the barriers outside the White House, training instincts would kick in for officers and Secret Service agents."
My guess is it was something along the lines of:
" Look at that innocent young black Mother,FuckHer!"
Westmoreland didn't do anything unless it came from LBJ.
ReplyDeleteWestmoreland always had the option to resign in protest, if he had protested the strategies or tactics.
DeleteIt is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.
You see, Anonymous, the reason Westmoreland was a wussy is not just because he sold out his troops for the coin of political expediency ...
It is because he signed on to the team that was hell bent on destroying what made the United States the most exceptional place in the world, the people in Washington sold out the country.
I saw it, Ike saw.
It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear.
Westmoreland sold out to 'em!
The scoundrels have not changed their ways ...
DeleteOur government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency.
Non-stop now, for over sixty years.
You would think the people would see the truth of it, but the war profiteers have wrapped themselves in the flag
The military leadership itself sold out, the citizen soldier is a thing of the past.
Replaced by a group of professional troops, highly paid careerists.
With a professional's agenda, not a citizen soldier's.
Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it.
But the truth of the matter is as Mr Roosevelt described to our fellow countrymen, in a time of greater general despair and domestic insecurity then we experience today
We have nothing to fear
But Fear itself!"
"A sweating ovary or a sick prostate explains most history."
ReplyDeleteMartin H. Fischer, M.D.
from The Whole Life Prostate Book
Brought home to me from the local library by my darling wife.
And you nitwits think you actually know something........
" Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
ReplyDeleteUntil the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.
In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present
and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite.
It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.
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Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow."
These are some of the prophetic words spoken by modern leader of your nation.
DeleteThis conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Since 2001, the base defense budget has soared from $287 billion to $530 billion -
ReplyDelete- and that's before accounting for the primary costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
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In 2011, the Pentagon spent about ... $128 billion on weapons procurement,
Then factor in the foreign sales, to the Saudi, Egyptians, Pakistani, Indians, South Koreans, Japanese, etc ....
Munitions and weapons sales, one of the major foreign policy drivers
Weapons procurement amount to 10% of the 2011 Federal budget deficit of $1.2 Trillion USD.
DeleteAre not five thousand nuclear war heads enough?
The United States spent more on its military than the next 13 nations combined
DeleteMany of the weapons systems that the Obama administration wanted to retire — such as three Navy cruisers — were kept in. The final did, however, make plans to reduce civilian and contractor personnel by 5 percent over the next five years. ....
the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, which asked seven teams of experts to come up with ways to meet the Pentagon's new spending constraints in the coming decades. It shows what areas different teams would cut — some experts advised heavily slashing the civilian workforce, others advocated cutting aircraft inventory. (There were some areas of consensus, though: surface ships were generally cut more than submarines, for instance.)
The cuts weren't always painless. For instance: "Five of seven teams agreed that they could not fully resource their strategies under the assumed fiscal guidance unless they accepted near-term risk by reducing current readiness programs." These are trade-offs Hagel will have to navigate.
Back in May, the Stimson Center unveiled the results of a new survey asking U.S. voters about their views on defense spending. As it turns out, Democratic, Republican and independent voters all want to cut military spending far more severely than the sequester would and far, far more severely than either party has proposed. Congress isn't likely to pay much attention here, but it's a reminder that defense cuts tend to be extremely popular.
Delete" Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war -- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years -- I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.
DeleteHappily, I can say that war has been avoided. Steady progress toward our ultimate goal has been made. But, so much remains to be done."
ReplyDelete"Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime."
Hemingway was mistaken. From the Torah and Talmud to St. Augustine, the West has understood that some wars are necessary and a failure to act would be morally reprehensible. Granted, it may be the case that 99% of all conflicts could be avoided and granted, further, that most wars result from greed and hubris, a fraction must be fought if the civilization we know is to survive. We do not have the luxury of picking all our enemies.
ReplyDeleteEisenhower was correct. For example, the US is spending about $50 billion for 24,000 MRAPs (Cougar HE). Each can carry 10 troops, with a crew of two. Although the per unit price varies with the liar, it looks like at least $1.5 million per copy. But here is the problem, as I see it: the US Army could not find enough infantry to fill even 1/3 of these bad boys. As this is written about 12,000 are sitting in the California desert on a 35,000 acre storage depot for surplus equipment. Just to be fair, they have the company of 9,000 main battle tanks, and unknown quantities of self-propelled artillery, artillery, trucks of every variety, etc. etc. etc. I haven't the patience to describe the USAF inventory overruns.
Since we could not conquer Afghanistan or Iraq, I am going to guess that we have no plans to conquer the world. Therefore, why is the US spending all this money on unusable toys?
How many poor, uninsured Americans could get medical coverage for $50 billion?
End of rant.
Delete"War is a contagion."
Hemingway was given to overstatement in many things.
DeleteThat quote above is one instance.
But then read a little more closely, he says, "however necessary, however justified", it is a crime.
And it does seem to be a crime on someone's part.
So maybe he isn't so far off after all.
War creates all great things.
DeleteHeraclitus
(I think)
"Justice will overtake fabricators of lies and false witnesses.".
DeleteThen the crapper is sunk, in this life, or another.
Delete"Those who enjoy their own emotionally bad health and who habitually fill their own minds with the rank poisons of suspicion, jealousy and hatred, as a rule take umbrage at those who refuse to do likewise, and they find a perverted relief in trying to denigrate them."
DeleteShades of 1963 ...
ReplyDeleteA man set himself on fire on the National Mall in the nation's capital as passers-by rushed over to help put out the flames, officials and witnesses said Friday afternoon.
The reason for the self-immolation was not immediately clear and the man's identity was not disclosed. But it occurred in public view, on a central national gathering place, in a city still rattled by a mass shooting last month and a high-speed car chase outside the U.S. Capitol on Thursday that ended with a woman being shot dead by police with a young child in the car.
The man on the Mall suffered life-threatening injuries and was airlifted to the hospital, said District of Columbia fire department spokesman Tim Wilson.
He was standing by himself in the center portion of the Mall when he emptied the contents of a red gasoline can on himself and set himself on fire moments later, said Katy Scheflen, who witnessed it as she walked across the area. Police say they responded around 4:20 p.m. Friday.
Scheflen said the man was clearly alive as the fire spread, and passing joggers took off their shirts in an effort to help put out the flames. It was not clear who actually extinguished the flames.
A police department spokesman said the man was conscious and breathing at the scene. MedStar Washington Hospital Center tweeted that the man was taken there and he was in critical condition Friday night.
"There was not a lot people could do because it was a gasoline fire," Scheflen said.
She said he may have said something before he acted "but it was nothing intelligible." She said she did not see him holding any signs before he set himself ablaze.
SUNNY!!..........PAYS TRIBUTE TO FURLOUGHED FEDERAL WORKERS
ReplyDeletehttp://houseofsunny.tv/2013/10/04/sunnytv-nonessential-a-tribute-to-the-furloughed-federal-workers/