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Thursday, November 01, 2012

Reporting your healthcare information to the IRS? We can’t get rid of Obama fast enough.

New Obamacare Tax Form Mandates Americans Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS

Here's why the IRS will require Americans to disclose their personal health ID information starting in 2014
When Obamacare’s individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form. The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayer’s personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate. 
As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, “taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment”. 
So why will the Obama IRS require your personal identifying health information? 
Simply put, there is no way for the IRS to enforce Obamacare’s individual mandate without such an invasive reporting scheme.  Every January, health insurance companies across America will send out tax documents to each insured individual.  This tax document—a copy of which will be furnished to the IRS—must contain sufficient information for taxpayers to prove that they purchased qualifying health insurance under Obamacare.
This new tax information document must, at a minimum, contain: the name and health insurance identification number of the taxpayer; the name and tax identification number of the health insurance company; the number of months the taxpayer was covered by this insurance plan; and whether or not the plan was purchased in one of Obamacare’s “exchanges.”
This will involve millions of new tax documents landing in mailboxes across America every January, along with the usual raft of W-2s, 1099s, and 1098s.  At tax time, the 140 million families who file a tax return will have to get acquainted with a brand new tax filing form.  Six million of these families will end up paying Obamacare’s individual mandate non-compliance tax penalty.
As a service to the public, Americans for Tax Reform has released a projected version of this tax form to help families and tax specialists prepare for this additional filing requirement. Taxpayers may view the projected IRS form at www.ObamacareTaxForm.com or see below.  On the form, lines 3-4 show where taxpayers will disclose their personal identifying health information.
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Read more: http://atr.org/new-obamacare-tax-form-mandates-americans-a7285#ixzz2B0wWb0lK


  1. Some of you Obama supporters will have to explain this one to me.

  2. What's to explain? You'll be required to prove you have health insurance.

  3. .

    If you buy into the proposition that the individual mandate is a tax as SCOTUS has ruled, who else is going to monitor it but the IRS?


  4. Yessiree, damn tax man, the doc, and me, all in the consultin' room, all talkin' bout my hemroids. The hell with it it's unamerican.

  5. Whole thing is totally wrong. Read up on that pathway to death in England.


    Your loved one might be bumped off and you won't even know it. And nothing to say about it. That is the inevitable direction we will go, if we don't get off the tracks.

    Santorum made a big deal about this when we heard him speak in Coeur d'Alene during the primaries.

    At that point 'they just got you' he said - speaking of ObamaCare. You are no longer an autonomous individual. The state owns you.

    We can improve the health care system without going down this road.

  6. ”What’s to explain? You’ll be required to prove you have health insurance.”

    Now let’s see. How will the IRS act, given past experience with them?

    1. They will require you to provide them with your checking account information, for an automatic deduction.
    2. They will get your private information at they scan and record your check.
    3. They will dip into your account to take out the payments.
    4. If you have insufficient funds, they will garnish your pay check and attack others savings and assets.
    5. They will lien your property.

    No problem there? Not if you don’t mind being herded by a government sheep dog.

    1. Oh, horsehocky; the "fine" for not carrying insurance is, actually, quite low. Around $1,100.00 at the Top end, I believe.

      Romney had it right when he pushed for the bill in Mass. It simply makes some of the "free-riders" take responsibility.

      You guys don't like it because it will cost you some extra in taxes (maybe.) But, you're overlooking the fact that you're paying for the healthcare of many of those "uninsured," already - but that you're paying for a very, very inefficient delivery system.

    2. you're overlooking the fact that you're paying for the healthcare of many of those "uninsured," already

      OOOO, no I'm not. I fully realize it. Have said so before.

      I don't want my own medical decisions shoved down my throat by people back in D.C.

      Do whatever the hell you want to do in Mississippi just leave us here out of it.

      you're paying for a very, very inefficient delivery system.

      You haven't seen anything yet. Britain's health service is about the largest employer on the planet and it stinks.

  7. Home of the free and land of the brave.

  8. I see Obama has fixed things up storm wise -

    Gas Shortages May Not End for Another Week...
    Fear Turns to Frustration, Anger...
    Fistfights, Guns Drawn...
    'You're not getting gas tonight'...
    Lines grow...
    Some Siphoning From Cars!
    'I'm pretty pissed'...
    Troopers deployed to gas stations...
    Stars throw extravagant Halloween party despite destruction...
    Commuter Delays Rage...
    NYC Official: Red Cross 'Absolute Disgrace'...
    Looters Dress Like Con Edison Workers to Gain Access to Houses...
    Staten Islanders Plead for Help: 'We Need Food'...

    - and headed off to Vegas again. He certainly seems to like it there, but it makes me think things are going worse than I imagined, as I thought he was winning Nevada. Ohio or somewhere with more electoral votes would seem a lot more logical at this late date.

  9. All you need to do, drop your reportable income to below the reporting threshold.
    Invest in the. Cayman Islands, with the rest of the 'Smart Money'

    1. Dumb comment.

    2. Not at all dumb.
      Tax avoidance in the name of privacy, will become the norm, amongst those that can afford it.
      Following Mr Romney's lead, in the new CONSERVATISM he espouses.

      Accounts in. Berrmuda, the Caymans and in Switzerland are ample proof of personal policy preference

    3. Another technique to avoid reportable income, while maintaining lifestyle is through the formation of a charitable trust.

      The 'Rich Folk' do it, extensively.

      That way the Trust covers your livimg expenses, as the Executive Director, but pays a subsistance salary.

      There are many ways to decrese your reportable income without sacrificing lifestyle.

      Just study Mitt Romney's life.

      He changed his State of do?icile, purely for tax purposes

  10. Al I can say is that last time I took my pets to the vet I had to fork over my SS No. When I asked why, I was informed so they could track me if I failed to pay the bill. True story. From Seattle.

    You're welcome.

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  11. Mitt campaign forthe health care mandate, on the Federal level, in 2ppo>
    He called it the CONSERVATIVE solution.
    He was so persuasive Obama took the idea for his own. Championing Romney's proposal for the CONSERVATIVE health care solution.

    You voted for Romney, endorsing Federal health care mandates when you did.

    1. That was 2009 that Mitt was campaigning for thr Federal Health Care mandate.

  12. He has pledged, a pledge he would be hard put to get out of, to get rid of it. Then we can start over. He needs the Senate.

    All this should be left to the states, let Massachusetts and Mississippi do whatever they want, leave me alone.

    1. We'll find out soon enough how it's going to work, because the only thing in the world with lower odds than Romney becoming President would be "Romney becoming President, and having a Republican Senate."

    2. An. Empty promise to 'Repeal and Replace'
      Actions beyond the authority the President wields.

      Do you favor an even m?ore Imperial Presidency?

    3. He will sign the bill repealing it that is sent to him by Congress. But he needs the Senate. Why clog up the discussion with non sense like that.

    4. Bob, have you really not figured out, Yet, that the man has no chance, whatsoever? Really?


  13. Replies
    1. For the marketer in you:

      Mitt's a Twit!

    2. .


      First we here Russia is for Obama, then China, and now Canada.

      The trifecta.


    3. You guys are so immersed in the stuff of US politics maybe being a little distance away gives one, ummm, perspective. Mitt is just so pandering a politician it is silly. Yea, yea, they all pander but his pandering rises to a whole new level. In a way it is similar to Obama's appeal of last election where most everyone projected their hopes and wishes upon him thinking he represented their views. Mitt has adopted every position in the book folk seem to think that his position coincides with theirs.

  14. The Pentagon deployed military equipment and personnel, including about 300 Marines and sailors and 17 planeloads of power equipment, in an expanding effort to help New Jersey and nearby states recover from superstorm Sandy.

    Military transport planes with more than 600 tons of power- restoration equipment, vehicles and crew from Southern California were being sent to the northeast, Pentagon spokesman George Little said today. Marines and sailors from Camp Lejeune in North Carolina also were being deployed to the region, the Marine Corps said in an e-mailed statement.

    Enlarge image

    The view of storm damage in New Jersey on Oct. 31, 2012. Photographer: Doug Mills/AFP/Getty Images
    Almost 4.5 million customers remained without power as of 2 p.m. New York time in blackouts that extended from South Carolina to Maine and as far west as Michigan, according to the U.S. Energy Department. More than 1.7 million homes and businesses in New Jersey, or 43 percent of customers, still had no power. The storm made landfall near Atlantic City as a post- tropical cyclone on Oct. 29.

    The power-restoration assistance includes 62 trucks and 10 civilian experts from Edison International (EIX)’s Southern California Edison at the request of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Little told reporters.

    The aid was on board five C-5 and 12 C-17 transport planes that began arriving today at the Stewart Air National Guard base in Newburgh, New York.

    Among supplies were 10 double-bucket trucks, a flatbed digger, eight so-called trouble trucks, a mobile command center and several pickup trucks, Little said. Separately, the military has sent power generators and water pumps to the affected area, he said.

    Amphibious Ships

    The Navy has dispatched three large-deck amphibious ships to waters off New York and New Jersey. The USS Wasp, USS San Antonio and USS Carter Hall were sent “northward for potential use in the event of a request by FEMA,” Little said. “It’s a precautionary measure that we believe is prudent.”

    The Navy hasn’t yet received any assignment from FEMA for the ships, according to Little.

    The Wasp arrived off New York City today and the other two ships were due tomorrow. MH-53 heavy-lift helicopters will fly onto the Wasp and join MH-60 choppers already on-board, Lieutenant Colonel Tom Crosson, a Pentagon spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement

    The Marines from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, will be deployed onboard the Wasp and will be capable of “providing generators, fuel, clean water, and a substantial helicopter lift capacity to aid in disaster relief efforts,” the Marine Corps said in a statement.

    Helicopters, Swimmers

    The San Antonio will come equipped with MH-60 helicopters and rescue swimmers awaiting deployment orders, Crosson said.

    The military also is providing 120 high-flow water pumps and more than 400 personnel to the region to drain floodwaters, Crosson said, a mission the Pentagon calls “un-watering.”

    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta also ordered three ships from the National Defense Reserve Fleet to provide temporary housing for emergency personnel, according to Crosson.

    In addition, National Guard spokesman Rick Breitenfeldt said in an e-mail that more than 220 Air Guard and Army Guard helicopters and 50 fixed-wing aircraft are available for search and rescue, reconnaissance and cargo missions.

    A combined Task Force with 41 soldiers from four states that arrived last night and is located at Joint Base McGuire- Dix-Lakehurst in New Jersey is equipped with two CH-47 Chinook helicopters and six UH-60 Black Hawks, he said.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Gopal Ratnam in Washington at gratnam1@bloomberg.net

    1. Getting ramped up.

      Of course, the Republicans' "privatization" plan would probably work better.

  15. Wasting taxpayers dollars.

    Those Marines should be securing the border.
    Either here or in Afghanistan.

    Possibly Korea.

    Keeping Japan in line on Okinowa.

    Is there not a LAW that forbids the Us military from operating domesticly
    Posse Comeasyou are
    Or some such

    1. That's a good question, Rat. I think Posse Comitatus only applies to "law enforcement" functions.

    2. Then, I looked it up on Wiki, and it seems it's not nearly so simple.

      The Posse Comitatus Act is the United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) that was passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction. Its intent (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) was to limit the powers of local governments and law enforcement agencies in using federal military personnel to enforce the laws of the land. Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it simply requires that any authority to do so must exist with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress.[citation needed] In this way, most use of the Army and the Air Force at the direction of the President does not offend the statute, even though it may be problematic for political reasons.

      The statute only addresses the US Army and, since 1956, the US Air Force. It does not refer to, and thus does not restrict or apply to, the National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state's governor (in its federal capacity, the National Guard forms part of the Army or Air Force of the United States). The Navy and Marine Corps are prohibited by a Department of Defense directive (self-regulation), but not by the Act itself.[1][2] Although it is a military force,[3] the U.S. Coast Guard, which now operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is also not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act, primarily because the Coast Guard has both a maritime law enforcement mission and a federal regulatory agency mission.

  16. What are the bookies saying?

  17. Democrats get elected, insiders get cash, Americans get nothing.

    Outside of higher taxes on everyone, we don’t know a lot about what President Obama’s second term agenda would look like. But we do know this: it would mean a lot more taxpayer investments in green energy companies. Campaigning in Florida earlier this year, Obama told supporters he would “double-down on a clean energy industry that’s never been more promising.” Never mind that almost 50 energy companies Obama has already wasted tax payer dollars on are either faltering or already bankrupt.

    So if Obama’s energy investments aren’t producing any new viable green energy companies, then what are they doing? Electing Democrats for one. Emails released yesterday by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee show that Obama was personally involved in approving two Department of Energy loans that went to Nevada companies in order to help Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., win his 2010 reelection campaign.

    “Reid may be desperate,” DOE Loan Program Office Senior Credit Advisor Jim McCrea wrote in 2010, “WH may want to help. Short term considerations may be more important than longer term considerations and what’s a billion anyhow?”

    Yes, what is a billion dollars in other people’s money anyhow?

    And when Obama energy money isn’t trying to elect Democrats it is enriching liberal corporate insiders. A Washington Examiner analysis of SEC filings from the 15 publicly traded green energy companies that received federal stimulus subsidies shows that the officers and directors of these firms extracted $63.9 million in stock gains after Obama gave these companies more than $700 million in direct taxpayer grants.

    The stocks of these 15 publicly traded green energy companies have plummeted almost 80 percent since Obama invested in them and many of them are either in bankruptcy or on their way there.


  18. Yes, what is a billion dollars in other people’s money anyhow?

    Just a bump in the road, like the dead in Benghazi.

  19. All the reasons fit to print to be against ObamaCare in the article below cited -


    "This whole Nazi regime was built upon deceit." -Chief Justice Robert Jackson, Lead Prosecutor, American Team, The Nuremberg Trials.

    Hitler was a proponent of universal health "care." It wasn't because he cared about people. He knew he could effect depopulation as it related to "quality of life" requirements established by deceitful decree. He never lived to see that insidious act against the people of Germany. Too bad the same can't be said of the fraud currently defiling the Oval Office.

    Last year, over 330,000 people were handed over to death in England because of their health care lie. As here, the health care lie is not the same health care provided to the elitist pieces of trash that passed that malignant law in the veneer of health care.

    I have read the health care lie. It took me over 60 hours to read it and make copious notes. Throughout the pages I have questions that make statements. The answers are in the questions and do not seek an answer from anyone, but rather state the obvious in the question. For example: What good is it to cover preexisting conditions if the rationing of "care" leads to ending the care of a person and letting them die? Death panels-correctly identified by Sarah Palin-make those decisions; not you, not your family, not your doctor...

    The health care lie needs to be completely and utterly repealed and the piece of trash god who would be king needs to be sent back to wherever he came from, most likely hell.


  20. I see Obama has decided he needs some help, and wants to establish a Secretary of Business.

    I find that really funny.


  21. Report: Obama never convened counterterrorism task force during Benghazi attack
    Nov 1, 2012 8:54 PM by Allahpundit

    Oh my.
    Documents found in Benghazi consulate claimed “troubling” surveillance by Libyan guards; Update: Obama not participating in investigation; Report: State never requested military back-up during attack

    What? Obama not participating in the investigation? NO!

    Why, he told us just the other day no one wanted to get to the bottom of it more than he, and when he found out what happened he would get right back to us after the election.

    I can't believe it.

    1. Believe it:

      He'll prosecute himself.

      After the election.


  22. I was just looking at a list of churches and other religious groups helping out in Sandy relief. Quite impressive.

    How anyone could hate these people is beyond me.

    1. They stayed, Obama brayed and boogied on out.



  23. 10 Things About Obamacare That Just Don’t Make Sense

    Obamacare includes many disastrous consequences for America’s health care
    system. Contributing to the impending mess are these 10 provisions that clearly
    elude common sense.

    Expanding a program that one in three doctors won’t accept.
    [1] Obamacare expands a broken Medicaid program that already faces a severe access problem:
    One out of three Medicaid doctors will not accept new Medicaid patients. If the
    Obama Administration has its way and every state expands Medicaid, 17 million
    Americans will be added to the rolls—5.6 million of whom will join the other
    Medicaid patients who can’t find a doctor.

    Giving Medicaid doctors a pay raise—for two years.

    [2] Obamacare increases
    the payment rate for Medicaid primary care doctors up to Medicare payment levels
    in 2013 and 2014. After those two years, Medicaid doctors will face about a 22
    percent payment cut.

    Giving more government money to low-income Americans in the exchanges than to those in Medicaid.
    [3] The Congressional Budget Office estimates that every
    low-income individual who chooses to enroll in the new exchanges instead of
    Medicaid will increase federal spending by roughly $3,000 in 2022, because
    exchange subsidies will be more generous than the cost of coverage in Medicaid.

    Using Medicare money to pay for Obamacare.
    [4] Medicare’s finances are in serious trouble, facing a long-term unfunded obligation of $37 trillion and a bankrupt trust fund by 2024. Despite these facts, Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion and then uses that money to pay for new spending rather than
    putting the money back into a struggling Medicare program.

    Forcing religious organizations to provide birth control coverage.
    [5] The Obama Administration refuses to exempt all religious employers from its mandate to provide coverage and pay for contraception, sterilization, and abortion-inducing drugs despite religious or moral objections to doing so.


  24. Spending $1.68 trillion on a health care law that will leave 30 million
    Americans uninsured.

    [6] Obamacare’s coverage expansion provisions alone
    will cost $1.68 trillion over the next 10 years, but even after all that
    additional health spending, 30 million Americans will be uninsured.

    Overpricing premiums for young adults—so the government can subsidize them.
    [7] Obamacare’s age rating system forces insurers to charge unnaturally high
    premiums for younger adults. This will result in more subsidies going to healthy
    young people in the exchanges than would otherwise be necessary if insurers were
    allowed to continue charging lower premiums that more accurately reflect younger
    adults’ lower health care costs.

    Fixed revenue from a tax.

    [8] Obamacare’s annual fee on health insurers acts
    like a traditional excise tax—with one unique difference: The revenue collected
    from the fee will be fixed in any given year, meaning the amount going to the
    government will remain the same with no relation to how many consumers are
    actually purchasing coverage, totaling over $100 billion from 2014–2022. Thus,
    the fewer people that buy insurance, the higher the tax rate will be for those
    who do.

    Obamacare gives $3.8 billion to fund CO-OPs—an insurer that is designed to fail.
    [9] It is uncertain whether any CO-OP insurers will actually be created, because
    there is no obvious market demand, the statute imposes restrictions that make it
    difficult to establish and operate one, and the law prohibits the most likely
    and sensible path to setting one up—a divestiture or conversion by an existing
    health insurer.

    Obamacare has two types of health exchanges—the law just didn’t describe the second one.
    [10] It includes the American Health Benefit (AHB) and Small
    Business Health Options Program (SHOP). For the AHB exchange, the law contains
    requirements for structure, functions, and operations. The law provides no such
    detail for the SHOP exchange, and thus it is irrelevant—yet it’s in the law.

    Finally, creating a new entitlement when America’s existing entitlements
    (Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security) are in desperate need of reform, and
    the country is running annual trillion-dollar budget deficits, doesn’t make much

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