The Deeper Questions Behind the Ambassador’s Murder … and the CIA Boss’ Sudden Resignation
While the GOP is attacking (and Dems defending) the Obama administration in connection with the murder of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, there is a deeper story.
Sure, it is stunning that the State Department never requested backup or that people such as Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer allege that President Obama personally watched in real time the attacks as they occurred via video feeds from drones flying over the Benghazi consulate.
But these claims only can be assessed – and the whole confusing mess only makes sense – if the deeper underlying story is first exposed.
Many Syrian Terrorists Come from Libya
The U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.
According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi:
Al Qaeda is now largely in control of Libya. Indeed, Al Qaeda flags were flown over the Benghazi courthouse once Gaddafi was toppled.
Al Qaeda is now largely in control of Libya. Indeed, Al Qaeda flags were flown over the Benghazi courthouse once Gaddafi was toppled.
(Incidentally, Gaddafi was on the verge of invading Benghazi in 2011, 4 years after the West Point report cited Benghazi as a hotbed of Al Qaeda terrorists. Gaddafi claimed – rightly it turns out – that Benghazi was an Al Qaeda stronghold and a main source of the Libyan rebellion. But NATO planes stopped him, and protected Benghazi.)
CNN, the Telegraph, the Washington Times, and many other mainstream sources confirm that Al Qaeda terrorists from Libya have since flooded into Syria to fight the Assad regime.
Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.
The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition.
The Real Story At Benghazi
This brings us to the murder of ambassador Stevens and the sudden resignation of CIA boss David Petraeus.
The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.
They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission.
Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.
Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:
There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.
In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.
In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.
Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.
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Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot downSyrian helicopters and fighter jets.
The ship’s captain was ”a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.
That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.
Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?
Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”
And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.
Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”
And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.
In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.
Other sources also claim that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.
Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.
Why Did CIA Chief David Petraeus Suddenly Resign?
CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. This could be the real explanation, given that affairs of high-level intelligence chiefs could compromise national security.
But the timing of Petraeus’ resignation becomes more interesting once one learns that that he was scheduled to testify under oath next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate.
Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.
The Big Picture
Whatever the scope of the CIA’s operation in Benghazi – and whatever the real reason for the resignation of the CIA chief – the key is our historical and ongoing foreign policy.
For decades, the U.S. has backed terrorists for geopolitical ends.
The U.S. government has been consistently planning regime change in Syria and Libya for 20 years, and dreamed of regime change – using false flag terror – for 50 years.
Obama has simply re-packaged Bush and the Neocons’ “war on terror” as a series of humanitarian wars.
And the U.S. and its allies will do anything to topple Iran … and is systematically attempting to pull the legs out from Iran’s allies as a way to isolate and weaken that country.
Americans should ask ourselves if that’s what we want …
London: The leader of the Free Syrian Army has warned that rebels in the country may ‘turn into terrorists’, and urged the outside world to back them before it happens.
ReplyDelete“If there’s no quick decision to support us, we will all turn into terrorists,” General Mustafa al-Sheikh, said.
“If you apply the pressure that’s been applied to Syria, it will explode in all directions. Terrorism will grow quickly,” he added.
During an exclusive interview with the Daily Telegraph, Gen. Sheikh also said he welcomed UK Prime Minister David Cameron’s decision to engage with the rebels and even consider organising arms supplies.
He, however, added that war was spreading to surrounding countries, the rebels were fractured and speed was of the essence.
According to the paper, Gen. Sheikh has published a manifesto, demanding respect for Syria’s unity and for human rights, especially the rights of prisoners, which he wants all rebel leaders to sign.
He suggested it might even become the basis of a new Syrian constitution.
Gen. Sheikh said that Britain and other countries should tie aid to this manifesto - alleging that at the moment other rebel groups are better funded.
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DeleteThe group we chose to support in Libya said the same, all the right words, all we lack is the music.
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PanARMENIAN.Net - Azerbaijani citizen Hasin Khazli was killed in Syria during neutralization of an armed group of terrorists, RFE/RL reported on October 19, citing Syrian news agency SANA. Ghazli was reported to have infiltrated Syria through Turkish-Syrian border as a part of a group of militants.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that Azerbaijan offers support to Syrian rebels was no secret even before Khazli’s death. In October Iranian “arannews.ir” website reported that Baku extended assistance of euro 500 thous. to Syrian terrorists.
Azerbaijan together with Turkey has been actively involved in the Syrian conflict right from the start in backing the opposition.
Azeri mercenaries were even said to undergo special training in Turkey’s province of Hatay before getting to Syria, with the largest number of Azeris reported in Turkish Apaydyn camp, according to Voskanapat.info.
In late August, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad accused the Turkish government of masterminding Syrian unrest, stating that “Turkey claims direct responsibility for the bloodshed in the country.”
On November 9, Iranian “arannews.ir” reported, citing Syrian state television that Azerbaijani citizen bearing “Islamov” second name was killed in neutralization of terrorist groups by Syrian government forces. The terrorist group was reported to consist of mainly citizens from Saudi Arabia and Azerbaijan.
The Azeri terrorist killed in Syria was later identified as Islamov Zahur Aleskerovich, born in 1975, Voskanapat.info reported.
Photographs of other three Azerbaijani terrorists killed in Syria were later discovered.
Where did they get the US Stinger missiles?
ReplyDeleteChief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces Gen. Nikolai Makarov told reporters on October 23, 2012 that, “The General Staff has information that the militants, who are fighting against Syrian government troops, are armed with the portable air defense systems of various countries, including the Stinger of U.S. production."
“The US denies this fact, they say that they did not deliver anything to them (Syrian militants). However, we have reliable information that Syrian militants are armed with foreign portable air defense systems, including U.S. air defense systems”, Makarov said. “It is necessary to find out who supplied it to them,” the chief of the Russian General Staff added (see article: U.S. Supplying Anti-Aircraft Missiles to Syrian Rebels http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-supplying-anti-aircraft-missiles-to-syrian-rebels/5309684 ).
The FIM-92 Stinger is a personal portable infrared homing surface-to-air missile (SAM), which can be adapted to fire from ground vehicles and helicopters (as an AAM), developed in the United States and entered into service in 1981.
Why are we doing this? We are playing with people’s lives whose generational hate for one another is in their blood?
ReplyDeleteBlow back?
Not a question of anything but when will it happen. The newly unionized federal TSA army of 45,000 will do nothing to help us because they cannot.
Innovation and cunning along with technological advances and highly motivated terrorists looking for revenge will make 911 look like a traffic incident.
Why do we permit the same neocons and interventionists to endanger our lives by acting outside of law in their murderous schemes in countries where we have no business?
The only question, really, is "why," isn't it?
ReplyDeleteAnd, the only "answer" I can come up with is, "for the sheer hell of it?"
Map of Syria and Surrounding Countries
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DeleteThe only thing I know for sure about that region is, the Turks would really, and truly love to have Kurdistan (down to the oil-rich Kirkuk region.)
DeleteI think this whole game plan was put together by people bearing the quaint 20th Century notion of "Oil" (who's got it, and how can we control it.)
I say "quaint," because the "oil" situation in this region has changed dramatically from what we thought it was just ten, or twenty years ago. (hint: Iran, and Iraq don't have nearly as much of it as we believed back then.)
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DeleteLord, Rufus, I know I encouraged you to expand your reading beyond Clean Technica and The Corn Dog Gazette but, geez, The Catholic Knight? I never expected you to move all the way over to the dark side with the rest of us retrogrades.
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Q, this has Everything to do with Clean Tech, and Corndog Gazette.
DeleteIn this Entire Region there is only "One" thing that the West would consider to be of even minimal importance.
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DeleteRuf has finally decided to:
Put the sword to the "tyranny of relativism!"
Walking on Budweiser Lake.....
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DeleteGod, works in mysterious ways, Bobbo.
Ruf went looking for a simple 'map of syria and the surrounding countries'.
What he found was the light.
Can you give me an amen?
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AMEN, BROTHER!!
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Remember the meme after 911: “Why do they hate us?”
ReplyDeleteStay tuned, we’re watching it in real time.
They hate. It's what they do. Ernest Hemingway's third wife Martha Gelhorn wrote a wonderful article about this that is probably lost forever to any search. It's what they do.
DeleteSyrian opposition groups meeting in the Qatari capital have agreed to form a united group called the Syrian National Coalition. Women were specifically excluded.
ReplyDeletenap time. let me know what you decide. :)
ReplyDeleteChristians are now being killed in Syria.
ReplyDeletehttp://frontpagemag.com/2012/frank-crimi/ethnic-cleansing-of-syrian-christians/
and dozens of other articles.
And in Nigeria and Egypt.....
DeleteOur bestest friend in that region has fought a couple of wars with the Assad clan. Judging by our in-house Israeli's past statements he'd like to see Assad lose to the Wahabbi.
ReplyDeleteWe know that the Saudi and the rulers in Qatar are funding both the Libyans and the insurgents and foreign fighters in Syria.
Given the supporters of Assad's downfall, well ...
What else would the US be doing to covertly assist?
Obama is 'Staying the Course'
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ReplyDeleteNot only does Petraeus look stupid but the more that comes out about this Broadwell chick, the more she looks like a nutjob. No wonder the CIA was getting nervous.
WASHINGTON — The scandal that brought down CIA Director David Petraeus started with harassing emails sent by his biographer and paramour, Paula Broadwell, to another woman, and eventually led the FBI to discover the affair, U.S. officials told The Associated Press on Saturday...
E-mails from Paramour led to Probe (no pun intended).
Now she is a paramour. What next, a courtesan?
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She may have feared the encroachment of another lioness.
DeleteAccess is all.
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DeleteThe identity of the woman who received the e-mails was not disclosed, and the nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown. The law enforcement officials said the e-mails indicated that Broadwell perceived the other woman as a threat to her relationship with Petraeus…
see article below
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WaPo: Broadwell sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to Petraeus
posted at 5:17 pm on November 10, 2012 by Allahpundit
So yeah, this is every bit as tawdry and soap opera-ish as you might have suspected.
The collapse of the dazzling career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman with whom he was having an affair sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him, according to three senior law enforcement officials with knowledge of the episode.
The recipient of the e-mails was so frightened that she went to the FBI for protection and help tracking down the sender, according to the officials. The FBI investigation traced the threats to Paula Broadwell, a former military officer and a Petraeus biographer, and uncovered explicit e-mails between Broadwell and Petraeus, the officials said…
The identity of the woman who received the e-mails was not disclosed, and the nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown. The law enforcement officials said the e-mails indicated that Broadwell perceived the other woman as a threat to her relationship with Petraeus…
The law enforcement officials did not provide an exact timeline for the investigation, but they said that the inquiry started at least several weeks ago. They said investigators thought they were dealing with a routine harassment case until they discovered the e-mails were traced to a private e-mail account belonging to Petraeus.
Am I reading that last bit right? Broadwell was sending the e-mails from Petraeus’s own Gmail account? And yet there are no criminal charges in the offing? Again, the only way I can square that is if he had somehow voluntarily granted her access to that account, presumably as a resource for her writings about him.
A little more on Broadwell from a “senior military source” who spoke to Business Insider. “P4″ is, of course, Petraeus:
I’ve known her for a few years, probably five or six. When she started work on the bio she called me for background on one of the general’s previous deployments. I probably gave her four hours or so, and we stayed in touch after that by email and an occasional phone call. Over that time, she went from someone very likeable to a shameless self-promoting prom queen. A very disturbing shift in how she carried herself. If she knew P4 was going to make an appearance at an event, she’d crash it without an invitation (she actually did this at the wedding of some close friends of mine) and photo bomb[ed] sic everyone there.
According to the NYT, the woman who received the threatening e-mails from Broadwell wasn’t a family member but she also wasn’t a government official. That makes me think the e-mails must have been truly hair-raising. The threshold for the FBI to take up a cyber-harassment case between what at first appeared to be two random private citizens must be high. What did Broadwell say in those e-mails to make the feds take this so seriously?
Update: Good point from the comments:
Yeah, but they didn’t arrest Broadwell, so how hair raising could they be?
Even if she doesn’t work in government, maybe the woman who received the e-mails has enough status in her own sphere that the FBI felt obliged to take the attempt to harass her seriously.
Why I Despair
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333132/why-i-despair-charles-c-w-cooke?pg=1
00:48 - 00:58 of Assad's interview
ReplyDeletethrough the ballot boxes!
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re: Previous post:
ReplyDeleteThe male sex drive is so powerful that if it were to be eliminated, the entire economy would crash in one day. There would be nobody to work, nobody in school. All we woman would do is lie around and eat and fart and get fat. The sex drive is what makes men get up in the morning. It’s the machine that runs the world. Why do men want to be successful? To get women…
It doesn’t get much deeper than this and Petraeus’ actions are just another proof.
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DeleteMen.
You can't live with them and you can't live without them.
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What does man want? At last we know.
DeleteReading between the lines, it's not so much the evolving labels being pinned on her, but the rapid descent into womanizer being given to him. Or else Paula's just the jealous type. She reminds me of Mary Kennedy. The engine runs a little hot.
Everyone should experience their inner alpha, preferably while protected by the emotional elasticity of one's 20's. As long-term partners, think very high maintenance - and Jack Welch.
At any rate, after shock and cynicism, comes acceptance. Life, as the longest ordeal in grief known to man. Not even the alphas can game that.
DeleteI guess I've been lucky.
DeleteBut when I breathe with the birds,
DeleteThe spirit of wrath becomes the spirit of
blessing,
And the dead begin from their dark to sing
in my sleep.
—Theodore Roethke
We shall live again,
We shall live again.
—Comanche Chant
We think that the ancestors are behind us, but they also go before us—a vanguard, a spirit wave, pulling us along.
Giving Birth To Ancestors
http://www.tricycle.com/ancestors/giving-birth-ancestors
What's dark to us is light to them.
DeleteJust say 'yes', Jenny.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe we should go back to days of old when eunuchs were often in charge of the security of the state.
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I was raised on a farm/ranch operation and farmed myself for a few years. I am certain beyond all doubt that large scale farming caused far more demise of the sage grouse and other grouse than oil field development ever did. Where there were thousands of acres of sage and native grass, there are now huge farm fields and the grouse disappeared over night. We used to have them near and on our farm when I was young. By the time I was in my 20s, they were gone as more and more of the prairie was plowed up and farmed. I know for a fact that some of it is now being used to grow corn for ethanol in gasoline. So you can blame guys like Barrack Insane Obama for killing off those grouse.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/11/obama_administration_seeks_to_drastically_limit_oil_shale_development_on_western_lands.html
Save The Sage Grouse!!
The commenter has the decline of the sage grouse right. Have seen it in the Snake River Basin as well.
If the broad got access to Petraeus's private email account, did she get access to pfour's government email acct?
ReplyDelete(the better question probably is, "how long are the odds that she didn't?")
The "smart" guys convinced the CIA, State, DOD, etal a Long Time Ago that there was just so much oil, and that we were going to end up fighting over it. They still believe that.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what they think we will do when that little dab runs out. For example, the Iranians, themselves, admit that their production is Falling 300,000 bbl/day, Annually. That puts them out of the oil-exporting game in just a few years - four, or five at the most.
4 States voted in support of Same-Sex Marriage - 3 to make it outright legal, the fourth to beat back a Constitutional Amendment to make it Illegal.
ReplyDeleteTwo States Voted to Legalize Marijuana, and a 3rd voted to become the 20th state, I think it is, to legalize "Medical" Marijuana.
Minnesota elected Tammy Baldwin, an openly gay candidate, to the Senate - and she beat Tommy Thompson, a pretty popular ex-Governor, and former head of HHS.
California voted to give themselves a "Tax Increase."
Lord, what an election. No wonder the Pubs are shellshocked.
Now, the left is lobbying the President to take a couple of months off, and re-engage with the republicans After Jan 1, the date of the "fiscal cliff" (otherwise known as a return to the Clinton Tax Rates.)
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ReplyDeleteTownHall reports massive voter fraud in St. Lucie County
Posted by The Right Scoop The Right Scoop on November 10th, 2012 in Politics | 415 Comments
According to TownHall almost every precinct in St. Lucie county had over 113% voter turnout:
On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”
The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”
Wow. There is no way they can get go without a recount now. This kind of voter fraud must end and it begins with Allen West. Let’s just hope the courts in Florida won’t stop this recount from happening.
http://www.therightscoop.com/townhall-reports-massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county/
I was only able to get you, Guvnor Ruf, up to about 112% as I recall. No wonder you fired me.
Well done in Philly, too:
DeleteIn 13 Philly wards, Obama received 99% of vote -- or more!
http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-09/news/34995157_1_voter-turnout-president-obama-gop-voters
But the good news is:
Exclusive: Jackson Jr. Plea Deal Includes Resignation, Pleading Guilty To Misuse Of Funds...
Some Jail Time Inevitable...
Only to be replaced by another crook.
It's sad to watch the country go down the toilet.
Say "Happy Birthday," Maggots:
ReplyDeletePolicing the Whole Damned World Since 1775
Be careful driving out there, tonite. Be a lotta drunk Marines, about.
DeleteIn honor of the 237th Birthday of The United States Marine Corps, Navajo Code-Talker, Joe Kellwood sings the Marine Corps Hymn in Navajo.
DeleteJoe Kellwood
If you don't know the story of the "Code-Talkers" it's a fascinating story to look up. They gave the Japanese fits.
Jeeze, I'm shocked and surprised that Rufie did not reply to Bob's evidence that this election was stolen.
ReplyDeleteIncluding War Hero and outspoken true conservative Allen West.
How Mia Love lost in Utah, I have no idea:
Racial Prejudice?
Seems a bit late in the game for that, even in Utah.
Yeah, except it's bullshit. Don't you morons "Ever" fact-check Anything?
DeleteSnopes.Com
You may for once actually have something there Rufus, but I had seen that four or five times, and put up the report.
DeleteI am glad to hear of your confidence in the Philly precincts too. It is most reassuring.
There is going to be a partial recount, it seems:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/11/florida-officials-order-partial-recount-in-tight-congressional-race-between-rep/
Indianapolis House Explosion
Delete"Loud noise, loud noise."
Musta been just about perfect gas-oxygen combo.
Rufus will cite it as evidence that ten years worth of Fracking Went up in a split second.
...thus, only fools Frack.
The inbred war loving deviant is at last seen as a security risk.
ReplyDeleteEveryone in Afghanistan knew about this affair, and only now does it become an issue. Even in his Afghan days everyone suspected she was working for a foreign country. How he managed to become top honcho at the CIA baffled most people.
What is amazing is that the media have only just reported this affair, when all knew it for years. Not only do they ( media) keep quiet about it they promote him as some sort of hero for his policy of ‘surges' and changes in the 'rules' of engagement, which are the primary reasons NATO could never win. The only beneficiary to Petreus's policies were the private arms/mercenary companies, but profits for the MIC were never the real reason for the invasions were they ?
That's interesting. So, the affair was widely known about before the General was appointed to DCIA. That makes the timing of the resignation all the more peculiar, doesn't it?
DeleteHow he managed to become top honcho at the CIA baffled most people.
ReplyDeleteAsk the Commander-in-Chief that question. He said he was wonderful.
Ask Ruf, he knows the Commander-in-Chief is wonderful. He will know how this fiasco occurred.
DeleteOh, I'll ask.
DeleteRuf, how did this fiasco occur?
He knew he had a man that could be told what to do and say.
Delete...or else.
Hell, Holder woulda jailed the Whorefucker if he doublecrossed The Won.
...just like that evil videographer that caused all this Ruckus in this normally placid part of the planet.
He won't be seeing Daylight for at least a year.
The confusions of living in a country like ours -
ReplyDeleteThe answer is that as almost all of the big swing states -- North Carolina is the lone exception, with Florida still too close to call -- went Democratic in the presidential race, they sent GOP majorities to Congress.
Here's how the new House delegation breaks down for each swing state with 9 or more electoral votes, with Republicans counted first: Colorado 4-3, Florida 17-9 (with 1 yet uncalled), Michigan 9-5, North Carolina 9-3 (1 uncalled), Ohio 12-4, Pennsylvania 13-5, Virginia 8-3, Wisconsin 5-3.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_disappointment_of_living_in_an_electoral_republic.html#ixzz2BuDUO21e
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