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Friday, June 22, 2012

Fags Giving Reagan the Finger in our White House



Gay activists,  Matthew “Matty” Hart and  Zoe Strauss, are under fire for posting photographs of themselves on Facebook giving the middle finger to President Ronald Reagan’s official portrait while attending the LGBT Pride Reception at the White House.
More after the jump.
The White House didn’t respond Friday to a request for comment on the  photographs, but we're thinking this may mean the activists' future White House invites will probably be lost in the mail.
Matthew Hart didn’t return a call from The Washington Times seeking comment, but he told Philadelphia magazine that he despises Reagan's legacy.
“Yeah,  f– Reagan,” Mr. Hart said. “Ronald Reagan has blood on his hands. The  man was in the White House as AIDS exploded, and he was happy to see  plenty of gay men and queer people die. He was a murderous fool, and I have no problem saying so. Don’t invite me back. I don’t care.”
According to The Washington Times, "Mr. Hart is national director of public engagement at Solutions for  Progress, which receives public and private funds to help 'individuals  and families working to overcome poverty and to build long-term  financial stability,' according to its web site. Ms. Strauss is a  photographer."
President Reagan's role or some would say, lack of a role/inaction during the initial AIDS crisis remains a hot-button issue for the LGBT community, but is it appropriate to flip off his portrait while visiting the White House (at the current President's invitation) and post it on Facebook?

MATTY MAKES AN APPEARANCE HERE WEARING A ”GODDAMN TIE AND WINGTIPS"

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  1. Not a word from Barack Hussein Obama.

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  2. If I showed that photo to my wife she'd explode. That is the very kind of stuff she hates most about Obongodrums,turning the place into an animal house, and a disco. So, I'll save myself the explosion and not show it to her.



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    1. Yeah, what's wrong with that black guy, turning a whorehouse into a disco?

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    2. If only you were just batshit crazy.

      Dangerously demented comes closer, but mere words fail.

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  3. Obama continues to lose the whites -

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    And the polite, the decorous, the respectful, etc......

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    1. Who are these "whites," annonoman?

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    2. The president picks up support from just 35% of white voters overall. That’s eight points below the 43% of the white vote he won in 2008. Among white Democrats, 17% currently plan to vote for Romney.

      Working class whites, I think. Middle and upper class whites are too dumb to vote for Romney.

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    3. Upper Class whites ain't dumb:

      They know Obama policies will keep the ignrant lower classes in their place, and add some from the lower middle.

      Cuts down the competition, saves resources, and preserves the sanctity of communities like Malibu and Martha's Vineyard.

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  4. "President Reagan's role or some would say, lack of a role/inaction during the initial AIDS crisis remains a hot-button issue for the LGBT community, but is it appropriate to flip off his portrait while visiting the White House (at the current President's invitation) and post it on Facebook?"

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    Total Bullshit:

    The Blood, Semen, Fecal Matter, etc is all over traitorous FAGS and corrupt "health officials" protecting the profits of the bathhouses in San Fran and other Glory Hole Hotspots.

    Randy Shilts, or Shits, or whoever, wrote a book about it:

    "And the Band Played On"

    ...he later died of AIDS.

    David Horowitz, ever the courageous Warrior for Truth, chronicled the sordid scene in a great Magazine called New West and later, California Mag, I think.

    It/he also completely outted the Democrat/Jim Jones scam even before he moved south to suicide village.

    All this to no effect, as the Traitorous Fag/Commie Con Man/Democrat Cabal plus the MSM kept the general public in the dark.

    Summing up:
    FAG Traitors to the gay cause killed thousands, a Commie Con Man killed nearly a thousand poor blacks, and Democraps from Willie Brown to Feinstein, Pelosi, "Hero" Harvey Milk all participated in covering it all up and blaming Reagan.

    FUCK THEM!

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    1. White shoulda used all that instead of the Twinkie Defense, whatever the fuck that was.
      'nuff to drive lotsa people nuts

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  5. Max will be along soon to lament that the poor pure Dems just didn't have time to clean out Reagan's Evil COWBOYS behind this terrible tragedy.

    ...just like Choir Boy Holder was ambushed by Bush Cowboy leftovers.

    ...The forced him to set free the Club Wielding Black Panther Poll watchers, too, btw.

    For the life of me, I can't figure why MessNBC hasn't signed her up to a lucrative contract.

    ...maybe it's the Alias?

    Yours truly,

    Doug
    (short for Douglas)

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    1. .

      Maybe it's the alias?

      Didn't you used to be Dug as in (Beware of Dug)?


      :)

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    2. Motto always was, and remains:

      "No matter where I find myself,
      just keep on Dougin"

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  6. Couple of days ago, Hewitt interviewed a cool Secret Service guy that became Reagan's Riding Companion.

    Seems Reagan was a VERY proficient horseman, trained by the US Calvary, and he was riding the service guys ragged around the Heaven on Earth that is the Reagan Ranch.

    Finally they sent this guy that had the skills, and Reagan wrote the head of the SS that they finally found him a good one.

    Nothing I've seen on this Earth can compare to the Splendor of Rancho Del Cielo.

    Reagan Spent 1 year out of his 8 at the Ranch!

    ...doesn't compare with HorseFace's New York Appartment, of course.

    BHO has such refined, down home tastes and sensibilities.

    A Real Mans Man.

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  7. "Cavalry" fer Christ's sake!
    Spent my life making fun of fuckers that said that.
    ...well, for a while, anyhoo.

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  8. Reagan was too near-sighted to qualify for the Service, so he figured out how to make a pin hole camera with the creases in his hand, and managed to pass the test.

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  9. “If not Heaven itself, the ranch must have the same zip code.”

    -Ronald Reagan

    Nice Pics of the inside of the Adobe

    Reagan much prefered this to the phoney glitz so sought after by the Obamas, Jarretts, et al.

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  10. A lot of the landscapes are like our farm's, but we didn't have the magnificent hilltop views of the Pacific, the Channel Islands, the lake, etc.

    More practical place to live for free, tho, with plenty of spring water at 100 psi, aluvial soil, firewood, fish...
    Those were the days...

    ...and our house is older than Reagan's Adobe!

    Some of the redwood boards were nearly two feet wide.
    'bout an inch and a quarter thick.
    "1 by's"

    Tore the half of the house that was falling into the cellar down, filled the cellar, and rebuilt it.

    Sandblasted all the paint off the interior, looks beautiful.
    ZERO "utilities"

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  11. "In late April the mountains are a beautiful lush green...There is a point...within range of mountains, the ocean, the fogbank, the Channel Islands, Santa Barbara... where you see the coastline below running east and west.

    The sun rises on one end of the beach and sets on the other. You are stunned with the beauty of the place, and now you know why they call it Rancho del Cielo."

    - Noonan

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  12. This all got started when I was gonna celebrate my return to internets connectivity after a 12 hour drought when I saw Google Celebrating Alan Turing's hundreth birthday.

    I was gonna ask the distinguished patrons if Alan, like Lance Armstrong, got ball cancer from all that time turing on his machine?

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  13. .

    One more reason the U.S. doesn't need the UN.

    Donald Rumsfeld, who is five times more persuasive than these former secretaries of state, opposes LOST because it “remains a sweeping power grab that could prove to be the largest mechanism for the worldwide redistribution of wealth in human history.” It “would regulate American citizens and businesses without being accountable politically to the American people.” Which makes it shameful that the Chamber of Commerce is campaigning for LOST through an organization with the Orwellian name the American Sovereignty Campaign...

    The UN is LOST


    For centuries there has been a law of the sea. There might be marginal benefits from LOST’s clarifications and procedures for resolving disputes arising from that law — although China and the nations involved in contentious disputes about the South China Sea have all ratified LOST, not that it seems to matter. But those hypothetical benefits are less important than LOST’s actual derogation of U.S. sovereignty by empowering a U.N. bureaucracy — the International Seabed Authority (ISA), based in Jamaica — to give or withhold permission for mining, and to transfer perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S. wealth to whatever nation it deems deserving — “on the basis of equitable sharing criteria, taking into account the interests and needs of developing states, particularly the least developed and the land-locked among them.”

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    1. How is it "US Wealth" when situated in "International Waters"? Please explain.

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      You are about four centuries behind in your thinking, Ash. Try reading the current "Law of the Sea Treaty". It recognizes various authorities based on distance from the coastline, anywhere from three to 350 miles, depending on what you are talking about. There is normally a 12 mile baseline; however, that is extended further for things like customs and immigration.

      Exclusive economic zones normally extend for 200 nautical miles and if there is a continental shelf involved it can extend to 350 nautical miles.

      LOST wants to leave rights within those zones to the discretion of some UN agency. Similar to what the IPCC is trying to do on climate change and another UN agency wants to do with the internet.

      The UN sucks.

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  14. Ah, life in a small college town....just got back from the original Vertigo. Hitch showed up early. Yes, Kim was an accomplice to murder. Yes, she and Jimmy kissed meaningfully at the end, but then the wrath of God in the figure of a scary nun walked in and off Kim goes to the very fall that took the real wife away. Total cost - $0.00 though I gave a tip. Pop quiz at the end, for chocolate bars. Free popcorn. All courtesy of a coalition of local churches. I saw Vertigo in that very theater when it first came out. San Francisco was beautiful then. Good time.

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    (and, we can suggest movies we want played this summer)

    Best line of the night - Boy, I could use one, says Jimmy, when offered a drink, when the seeming complexity of the situation first sinks in.

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  15. You're never too old to fight crime -

    https://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fusnews.msnbc.msn.com%2F_news%2F2012%2F06%2F21%

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    1. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/21/12338082-90-year-old-helps-chase-down-her-alleged-mugger?lite


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    2. Here's how stupid I am:

      That lady that's got 500 k and counting for getting cussed out or whatever in the school bus?

      If it had been me, I woulda seen to it that I upped the aunty sic on profanity on the young bastards, the tape would be shown, and I'd be the recipient of zilch, nada, zip, except for the usual and obligatory public scorn.

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  16. From CNN

    ...Still, the White House beckoned me.

    In the mid-1980s, I had an opportunity to represent an obscure and unhappy publication as its journalistic correspondent in the White House for a few years. I leaped at the chance, moving across the U.S. to be there, in the press room, almost daily. I didn't like who I worked for and I didn't like who was president at the time, but I loved the White House, especially on the few occasions when I was included among journalists invited to one of the many holiday parties held there.

    Ah, the East Room (where the formal news conferences were also held), the Blue Room, the Red Room and so forth! All the ponderous presidential portraits and artifacts chronicling the colorful history of the nation's chief executives.

    But while there, I felt light years away. I was gay, and I kept it to myself in those days. I was an outsider granted a glimpse of what I'd cherished so intimately as a youth. The idea of being gay was allowed nowhere near the official corridors of power.

    To the gay movement, it was a huge breakthrough when, in the 1990s, a president first uttered the word, "gay," in a nonderogatory or "as in happy" sense, in a major speech. President Bill Clinton later spoke at one of the first national dinners of the Human Rights Campaign in the late 1990s. Held at a hotel ballroom blocks from the White House, I was there. Hope for LGBT people was in the air.

    Fast forwarding to last week, it was deeply moving to be back in the White House, finally not as a closeted journalist or anything other than an open and affirming public citizen.

    Unlike the LGBT reception held there just a year earlier, this time there were women and men in military uniform, some holding hands with their same-sex partners, made possible only after the president led the overturning of don't ask, don't tell in the course of the past year.

    Entering the East Room amid cheers to speak to us, President Barack Obama reaffirmed the commitment he'd made only weeks before to full support for gay marriage.

    We have a president now who can say without hesitation, as he did Friday, "As long as I have the privilege of being your president, I promise you, you won't just have a friend in the White House, you will have a fellow advocate for an America where no matter what you look like or where you come from or who you love, you can dream big dreams and dream as openly as you want.”

    Thank you, Mr. President: You mean those kind of "big dreams" I had as a kid! There is no doubt in my mind now that there is some LGBT youngster in our land right now who will grow up to become president of the United States some day.


    Follow @CNNOpinion on Twitter

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  17. Quite the week for Gay Pride in Philadelphia


    Bellefonte, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky will likely spend the rest of his life in jail after a jury convicted him on 45 of 48 counts related to sexual abuse of boys, ending a painful chapter for victims and the entire university.
    But the ordeal is not over, as one of Sandusky's attorney announced plans to appeal despite the mountain of convictions against his client



    (CNN) -- Monsignor William Lynn, the highest-ranking cleric accused of imperiling children by helping cover up sexual abuse, was found guilty Friday of one count of child endangerment.
    He was found not guilty on a second count of endangerment and a conspiracy charge to protect a priest accused of abuse.
    The jury was unable to bring a verdict against his co-defendant, the Rev. James Brennan, who was charged with attempted rape of a 14-year-old altar boy and endangering the welfare of a child.
    Lynn was taken into custody after Friday's verdict, when the judge revoked his bail. His lawyer, Jeffrey Lindy, derided the decision not to let his client remain free on bond prior to sentencing, calling it "an unspeakable miscarriage of justice (for) a 61-year-old man with no prior record and long established ties to the community."
    Philadelphia D.A.: Verdict is a victory
    He is set to be sentenced August 13, court officials said, and could face up to seven years in prison for his conviction on a third-degree felony.
    The trial marked the first time U.S. prosecutors charged not just priests who allegedly committed abuses but church leaders for failing to stop them.
    Calling the verdict "historic," Philadelphia District attorney R. Seth Williams said Friday's decision sends a message about potential consequences of not reporting sexual abuse.

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  18. The progressive apologists are making the argument that the proud gays, having fought for so many years against the conservatives, led by the evil Reagan, are the equivalent of the combat soldiers that urinated on their dead enemies in Afghanistan and took the photos to facebook.

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  19. How far do we have to go back in history to see the beginning of these ridiculous comparative distortions? The first that I noticed was in the sixties when adolescent narcissistic paranoids started to compare their music, papers and books as “underground.”

    The comparison of their post pubescent social hissy fit to the incredible courage of the French Underground in WWII was an outrage that they were never called on. It was on a par comparing crossing the Hudson on the George Washington Bridge to George Washington crossing the Delaware at Trenton.

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    1. an outrage that they were never called on.

      Michael Tomasky did in his 1996 book .

      Tomasky (and others, many of whom whose names I do not know but I throw out Julian Epstein, Jared Bernstein, and Austan Goolsbee as three) is part of the post-'60's progressive crowd. Perhaps they don't even use the term 'progressive' any more, but the gauntlet of separation has been thrown to distance themselves and their political beliefs from the Todd Gitlins and Tom Haydens and, yes, the "Bill and Bernadine"'s of 50 years ago. Where Obama is, I have no clue.

      It is incorrect to say that history has not passed judgment on the 1960's.

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    2. Michael Tomasky did in his 1996 book Left for Dead: The Life, Death, and Possible Resurrection of Progressive Politics in America.

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    3. Some of these Tea Party types remind me of the '60's.

      Instead of Free Love, we have Free Markets.

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  20. WASHINGTON, June 22, 2012 — ...
    Girls and boys went wild in the White House last week. So besotted were they with the chance to hang out with a president who really gets and loves them, they found President Reagan’s portrait, made out underneath it, and “flipped it the bird.” And so stupid were they, so drunk on the moment, they took pictures and put them on the internet. They posted them on Facebook and wrote, “F**k Reagan,” and “star wars ... up yours.”

    A Marine Corps band, toughened professionals to the bitter end, bravely played show tunes in the background. They might have preferred to use their instruments to make less beautiful music.

    There’s little to be added to the story of the pictures these gay activists took. President Obama showed abysmal bad taste when he invited them to the White House, or his staff showed bad judgement in not telling him that they were a bunch of urban hillbillies. It’s certain that had he known, Obama would have found a reason to not invite them. Now he gets another meme shooting around the internet to add to the one that says he thinks of the White House as his party pad, not as a place of huge historic and emotional significance for the American people.

    The president to whom these activists so crudely showed disrespect was a man far classier than they, one who would never have dreamed of dishonoring a place he considered almost sacred, especially not for anything as petty as mocking his enemies. Every president, from Washington to FDR to Reagan to Bush, Clinton and Obama deserves respect within the White House. Calling Reagan a “killer with blood on his hands” is protected speech, even in the White House, but doing it in the White House isn’t just disrespectful to every president, it’s odious and disrespectful to Americans in general. It’s also incredibly, abysmally stupid.

    Anyone who wants evidence that gays aren’t like the rest of us need only download the pictures that these gays and lesbian activists helpfully put online. They were taking out their frustration, or showing heartfelt anger at a man who presided over the AIDS epidemic? Newsflash: He died a decade ago, and his presidency ended over a generation ago. That’s not heartfelt anger; it’s psychosis. Frustration to the point of no judgement over crab cakes to the music of Barbra Streisand in the White House is so silly that it’s laughable.

    Unlike “girls gone wild” and urinating grunts, the people posing in front of Reagan’s portrait look old enough to know better. They prove the saying, “when you’re stupid it’s for life.” Indeed. They’ve created an ugly image problem for the generals of the gay rights movement who should move quickly to dishonorably discharge them, and also for the man who was foolish enough to honor them with a White House reception. Gays around the country had nothing to do with this and will be justifiably dismayed, and they should have our condolences, like people cursed with uncles who show up nude at their dinner parties.

    For Obama, no condolences. He’s never shown much sense of restraint himself, and if this causes him heartburn, he set himself up for it. The culture that made this arrogance seem good to the gay pride activists of Philadelphia isn’t gay culture, but the same self-centered, libertine culture that created President Obama, the most arrogant man in the world.


    James Picht is the Senior Editor for Communities Politics and teaches economics at the Louisiana Scholars' College in Natchitoches, La.,

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      A Marine Corps band, toughened professionals to the bitter end, bravely played show tunes in the background...

      Show tunes?

      How stereotypical can you get?

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    2. Anyone who wants evidence that gays aren’t like the rest of us...

      Anymore than White Trash are *like* the rest of us (po' white folk.)

      They prove the saying, “when you’re stupid it’s for life.”

      That's a much better theme, stupid being an equal opportunity character flaw.

      I have no idea what happened here (but, being superstitious, it looks like the stars and the tides are conspiring against Obama - to force self definition, as he wasn't able to do when he was younger.)

      To repeat what I've said before, the gay activists are a group apart. John Belushi brought decorum to their parties. They've always been heart and soul of the "color" in American politics, single-handedly keeping the flame of disenfranchisement burning bright.

      For Obama, no condolences. He’s never shown much sense of restraint himself, and if this causes him heartburn, he set himself up for it. The culture that made this arrogance seem good to the gay pride activists of Philadelphia isn’t gay culture, but the same self-centered, libertine culture that created President Obama, the most arrogant man in the world.

      All righty then. It's morning in the Library for America.

      Where is my beloved 7-volume copy of Remembrance of Things Past??

      .............

      I'm tempted to relate this story to the chubby female bus monitor who now has a half million trust fund. Some segment of the press going after the culture wars. Which is fine. Just not at the top of my list. Bankers need jail time first before I start choking on the impropriety of feathers and bling.

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    3. bankers? nothing to see here, moving along.


      LOOK!!! Over Here!! A Bright Shiny Thang!!!

      :)

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    Grey literature? Quotas? Science vs. Fairness?

    More Good Works from the IPCC


    'Grey' literature, which led to the "Glaciergate" scandal of 2010 when it was revealed that the rate at which Himalayan glaciers are losing ice (gone by 2035!) was stated as fact even though it was not based on evidence, will no longer be a problem for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

    Because they have declared that grey literature will no longer be grey - any information they choose to use will be considered peer reviewed just by being posted on the Internet by the IPCC


    Peer review? We don't need no stinkin peer review.


    More FUBAR from the UN. Note: Although, the US provides half the funds for the IPCC, they are allocated only four spots on the panel while, in the name of fairness, Africa is allocated five.

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  22. .

    As the nation awaits a Supreme Court ruling on the constitutionality of the Obama health care approach, a new Associated Press-GfK poll suggests that the vast majority of Americans want Congress to come up with a better plan. They know that the current system is unsustainable. Only a third of those polled favored the law President Barack Obama signed, but according to the AP, "whatever people think of the law, they don't want a Supreme Court ruling against it to be the last word on health care reform."

    The article continued,

    More than three-fourths of Americans want their political leaders to undertake a new effort, rather than leave the health care system alone if the court rules against the law, according to the poll.


    That sentiment underscores the opportunity missed by Obama, who limited his ambition to what Big Pharma and the insurance giants would accept as "reform" in a system that they had so successfully exploited. Obamacare is a faux reform born of opportunism, as was Romney's original version: Play ball with those who have profited most from the run-up of medical costs and expect them to make it more affordable...



    Beefing up the Public Option?


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    1. Republicans seem to lean Vegan in their preferred health care options.

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  23. Boehner announced, yesterday, that if the Supreme Court only overturns the "Mandate" the Republicans in the House will, "Immediately" move to overturn the rest of the law.

    If Obama has "Any" chance at reelection, it probably hinges on the Supremes overturning all, or a part of, Obamacare.

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    1. Human Nature.

      Buyer's Remorse (in reverse, kinda)

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    2. I figure the American Public will wake up one morning to the realization that they had "healthcare, imperfect though it might have been, and, now, thanks to the Republicans in Congress, and on the Supreme Court, they have none.

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    3. I figured you'd figure it wrong.

      Last night the host of RedEye Radio was telling how his cousin couldn't get the life saving operation he needed in Canada, that medical paradise, and had to come to the USA. You see, up there the operation was deemed too expensive by the panels.

      See: Robert Reich.

      May God continue to protect drunks, fools, little children, and Rufus.

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    4. The "tea party" has Romney in an unnatural (for him) position. He's being forced to run against Romneycare and Renewable energy, and to campaign "in favor of" more foreign wars.

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    5. First off, if you get your "truth" from Redeye Radio there's no hope for you. Second off, I have no idea what "Canada" has to do with Romney/Obamacare. Third off, I've heard no credible instances of Canadians being refused "life-saving" operations Due to "Expense."

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    6. The one Tea Party event I attended was all about taxes and personal freedom, not about being "in favor of" more foreign wars.

      You are making stuff up.

      Further, there was no sign there that I saw that said "Down with renewables".

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    7. Third off, I've heard no credible instances of Canadians being refused "life-saving" operations Due to "Expense."

      That's because you don't listen to RedEye.

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    8. I also don't wear a tin-foil hat.

      I guess I'll never get the truth.

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    9. BTW, the "operative" word there was "credible."

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    10. .

      The following is an article that indicates that Romneycare in Massechusetts has been very successful.

      Report: Mass. Health Program Provides Preview of Reform's Impact


      However, in reading through the article, I noted three differences between Romneycare and Obamacare that help explain some of Obama's problems.

      1. Constitutional. The states have a recognized 'police power' that allows them to control most things within the bounderies of the state (unless it conflicts with federal law, etc.) so they have the power to establish a mandate. The Feds are limited in what they can do by the constitution and the individual mandate is a significant expansion of the commerce clause.

      2. Scope. Romneycare, while promising universal coverage, does not offer the same level of 'mandatory minimal services' written into Obamacare.

      3. Cost Containment. Romneycare was designed for one main purpose, to provide universal healthcare to all citizens of Massachusetts. Cost containment was not major issue. Despite this Massechusetts, in setting up the plan, engaged in significant negotiations with the healthcare industry. This resulted in significant cost containment by the state (price rises lower than the national average). In addition, the legislature is now looking at further cost cutting neasures.

      Obamacare, on the other hand, was sold primarily as a cost containment initiative with universal coverage as an additional benefit. However, with it's sellouts, bribes, and waivers to states, companies, and unions, it fails to meet its primary goal.

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    11. Deuce asked:
      "How do you figure that?"

      Maybe because everyone he knows wants Obamacare.

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    12. "If Obama has "Any" chance at reelection, it probably hinges on the Supremes overturning all, or a part of, Obamacare"

      This after expousing multiple times and ways in which he couldn't lose.

      FOS is FOS, no matter how many times your soclialist diaper is washed and repeatedly loaded up again and with your stock in trade:

      Bullshit that smells like human (socialist) SHIT.

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    13. Now, you're just lying.

      I have repeatedly refused to call this election. I have absolutely no clue as to which way it will break, and I've said so.

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    14. Part 2/2

      From the Orszag essay:

      IPAB. When IPAB starts up in 2014, it will comprise an independent panel of medical experts charged with devising changes to Medicare’s payment system. In each year that Medicare’s per capita costs exceed a certain threshold, IPAB will be responsible for making proposals to reduce this projected cost growth to the specified threshold. The policies will then take effect automatically unless Congress specifically passes legislation blocking them and the president signs that legislation.

      Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute. The data gathered and the protocols based on them could then flow back into the health system through software that helps doctors make clinical decisions. Such a setup would be substantially more potent if it were combined with the type of evidence-based safe harbor under the tort laws discussed earlier: if the software could tell doctors not only what the best practices were but also that a malpractice safe harbor existed for those following such guidelines, the practice of evidence-based medicine would become much more common.

      ..........................

      Pay for performance is the heart of ObamaCare cost containment strategies - and it's a hotly controversial concept. From wiki:

      In the United States, most professional medical societies have been nominally supportive of incentive programs to increase the quality of health care. However, these organizations also express concern over the choice and validity of measurements of improvement. The American Medical Association (AMA) has published principles for pay-for performance programs, with emphasis on voluntary participation, data accuracy, positive incentives and fostering the doctor-patient relationship,[8] and detailed guidelines for designing and implementing these programs.[9]

      Positions by other physician organizations reflect skepticism on the validity of performance measures, and promote accommodation for an individual physician's clinical judgement, protection for a patient's preferences, autonomy and privacy, and reversing the trend of health care cost reductions to accommodate the increased administrative costs required by participation in such programs.

      [paragraphs added]

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    15. Part 1/2

      From the link:

      “A key driver of overall cost reduction is unit cost improvement achieved through contract renegotiations with providers and referral management,” said Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority Executive Director Glen Shor. “Several of the insurance carriers achieved significant success in persuading provider organizations to serve Commonwealth Care members at a lower cost,” he added.

      What's wrong with this picture? Aah, The Magic Negotiating Technique Solution. Why didn't Obama think of that? So all we ever had to do was talk nicely to the insurance providers? Who knew? (That key paragraph is bothersome. Would that a health care response were that simple.) More seriously, the critical success of pivotal "negotiations" requires further explication.

      However, with [the ObamaCare] sellouts, bribes, and waivers to states, companies, and unions, it fails to meet its primary goal.

      A pronouncement of success or failure is premature, because more legislative work is needed to "refine" the proposed cost containment measures in the current bill (escalation control and cost cutting).

      Second, some large part of the concern with ObamaCare, as written, is the pay-for-performance model embodied by the IPAB architecture (Independent Payment Advisory Board) and the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute.

      From wiki:

      Pay for performance is an emerging movement in health insurance (initially in Britain and United States). Providers under this arrangement are rewarded for meeting pre-established targets for delivery of healthcare services. This is a fundamental change from fee for service payment.

      Also known as "P4P" or “value-based purchasing,” this payment model rewards physicians, hospitals, medical groups, and other healthcare providers for meeting certain performance measures for quality and efficiency.

      The mind boggles.

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  24. The last poll I saw showed an ungodly 80% Approval Rating for Romneycare in Massachusetts.

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    1. Yeah, that's under Romneycare, the vast majority of Massachusetts citizens that are currently insured

      ACTUALLY DO GET TO KEEP THEIR CURRENT Doctors, Insurance, etc.

      The Exact OPPOSITE of what OwhoCares "care" will allow, if it's ever implemented.

      Stupid, Socialist Fuckstick.

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    2. "Yeah, that's BECAUSE under Romneycare..."

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  25. Another nice day for Renewables in California -

    15.8%

    Add in Large Hydro, and you're over 20%. Not bad.

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    1. Looking at it more closely, it looks like Renewables plus Hydro comes out closer to 30%. Really, really "Not Bad."

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    2. None so blind...

      Rufus'll soon be voting for sending Mississippi dollars off to DC to rescue the dying, bankrupt, doormat for Illegals once known as the "State of California"

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    3. It seems unlikely considering that California, and the other Blue States are, at present sending 20%, or more, of their income to miserable, backward "Red" States like mine.

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    4. That should be 20% of "Federal Taxes Collected," not Income.

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  26. Just for Rufus -

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303918204577448670687231692.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

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    1. Make it a link, and I'll click on it (if it's not American Thinker.)

      Otherwise you're wasting your time.

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    2. I can't do links. It's WSJ and it's about mandating solar panels on California roofs in new construction.

      Your mind is so closed you self censure what you yourself read.

      A sign of "the hopeless case".

      I don't know what the article says cause I don't have a subscription. Was hoping to suck off you.

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    3. I pay very little attention to the WSJ since Murdock bought it, and turned it into a propaganda organ for Big Oil/Gas, and Coal Companies.

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    4. "Never ever read what disagrees with you. It's the road to a broader understanding. And who wants that?"

      Rufus

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    5. No, it's just that I've caught them in so many lies, and distortions that I have no confidence in "Anything" I read there.

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    6. He's confined himself to The Nation, Media Matters, MSNBC, and undisclosed sources in the Kremlin and Peking.

      ...just what every "conservative" "patriot" needs to know.

      don'tcha ya know

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    7. I've never read The Nation, or clicked on Media Matters in my life, and I never watch MSNBC. I take everything in Media with a very large amount of salt.

      I do try to chase down the True "Numbers" when it comes to Economics, and Energy.

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    8. BTW, I think I did read something, recently, about a proposal in some "smallish, I think," California community that would require new construction to be "solar-ready," or somesuch. I assume that would entail having wiring in place, and possibly a south-facing roof.

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  27. Otherwise you're wasting your time.

    With you, I've been aware of that for forever.

    :)

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    1. It's not against organs in general, mind you, like the WSJ and American Thinker:

      He's Big Time into Sucking Off most Big organs of the left.

      ...you might say he's a

      LEFT WING COCKSUCKER

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  28. BOT, What I find anstonishing is how openly disrespectful these idiots are and yet they demand absolute & unconditional respect from everyone for their lifestyle choices… I gather that your reference to them as “fags” is a comment on that very point. :)

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    1. Any healthy, monogamous, self-respecting gay person should refer to these traitorous, lying, murderous, butt fucking perverted assholes for what they are:

      Traitorous Left Wing FAGS.

      Like Rufus is a Traitorous, Left Wing, fill in the blank.
      ...I don't want to guess.

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    2. Yes, it was, and thanks for pointing it out.

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  29. "Third off, I've heard no credible instances of Canadians being refused "life-saving" operations Due to "Expense>"

    Yeah, they just travel south for Health Care 'cause they have a death wish.

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  30. Now, here's an example of why you have to be careful with "numbers" from EITHER side -

    From Quirk's excellent link:

    The report, Massachusetts Health Reform Spending, 2006-2011: An Update on the “Budget Buster” Myth, found that state spending attributable directly to the health care reform law grew from $1.04 billion in fiscal 2006 to $1.95 billion in fiscal 2011. The state’s share after accounting for federal reimbursements was $453 million, which equates to 1.4 percent of the state’s $32 billion budget in fiscal 2011.

    The "True" cost, obviously, was Not 1.4% of the State's $32 Billion Budget, but wal 0.91/32 or 2.84% of the State's Budget.

    If you extrapolated that out to the size of the National Budget, and added in an extra 0.5% for Federal inefficiencies, you would be at approx. the $150 Billion that I forecast almost two years ago.

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    1. But, don't overlook the fact that Massachusetts is in the Top Five in any metric you Want to be in the top five in: eg. Median Income, GDP Growth per Capita, Unemployment Improvement, etc.

      Having a healthy, productive workforce has to pay certain dividends.

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    2. And their rate of "Healthcare Inflation" is Below the national average.

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  31. Asses come in all persuasions.

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    2. When you have no argument, you can retire, or you can resort to teenage ad hominems.

      Doug is not the "retiring" sort, I guess. :)

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    3. .and configurations and hair coverations.

      ...although Rufus's buds are taking to hair removal.

      For that what if Kojack's Head were an Asshole look.

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  32. So it won't get lost on the skimmers:

    Rufus IISat Jun 23, 09:05:00 AM EDT
    The last poll I saw showed an ungodly 80% Approval Rating for Romneycare in Massachusetts.


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    Yeah, that's because under Romneycare, the vast majority of Massachusetts citizens that are currently insured

    ACTUALLY DO GET TO KEEP THEIR CURRENT Doctors, Insurance, etc.

    The Exact OPPOSITE of what OwhoCares "care" will allow, if it's ever implemented.

    Stupid, Socialist Fuckstick.

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    1. Well, bubba, maybe you ought to put up a little linky-poo for that assertion; cause everything I've read says that isn't so.

      Maybe a third-party analysis.

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    2. No one here has forgotten, Doug, how you railed at Romneycare, and squawked on and on about how much the people of Mass would hate it, and how all the Doctors would leave and go to Mississippi.

      (btw, I still haven't seen any Massachusetts Doctors wandering around down here looking for a job.)

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    3. Ya got me:

      Romneycare, Obama/Pelosi/WaxmanCare are IDENTICAL.

      Case closed.

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  33. Nothing says "Happy Birthday, Rufus" like sending the Ruf birthday money to the Romney campaign!

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  34. Has Hillary "ditched the estrogen patch?"

    WARNING: American Thinker article -

    But, it's really hilarious, including photo

    Only those with a hearty sane sense of humor should read further --

    Over the years, Hillary has said and done some pretty crazy things. Who can forget when Hillary, born in 1947, concocted the story that her late mother Dorothy named her after Mount Everest mountaineer Sir Edmund Hillary, who became famous five years after the little Rodham was born?

    Or how about when, recounting a 1996 trip to Bosnia, Mrs. Clinton "misspoke" when she apparently mistook receiving flowers from a little girl for running across the Tulza tarmac, dodging sniper fire?


    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/is_hillary_mentally_illary.html

    Is Hillary mentally illary?

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  35. Mr Obama excels at running against the government. Which is hard to do when you are the government.

    But if ObamaCare is found to be illegal, in whole or part, he has another "other" to run against.
    He has a trumpet to rally his troops to.

    Obama will be well served, politically, if the SCOTUS overturns the healthcare law, in whole or part, which seems likely.

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  36. Those that oppose Obama will breathe a sigh of relief.
    Those that support him will be energized.

    The Republicans will ignore the economy and work feverishly to repeal the "best" parts of the Healthcare Reform Act.

    Their efforts to repeal the Act guaranteed to die in the Senate, while motivating the energized cadres of Obama supporters to go to the polls.

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    1. .

      I could be wrong, but I doubt the GOP will do anything wrt Obamacare before the election. Wouldn't be prudent.

      They were already looking at pulling together legislation that would keep some of the more popular aspects of Obamacare. That initiative died about a month ago, probably because they didn't want to offend the Tea Party section of their base prior to November.

      Regardless of who wins there will likely be some initiative on healthcare. If the GOP wins, the effort will probably be incremental and small. Even if the Dems win, it will likely be insufficient. With the pols at each other's throats, you are guaranteed there will be no cost savings.

      But, that is if Obamacare loses in the courts.

      I suspect we might know one way or the other on Monday.

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    2. I can only go by what Boehner said, Q. I admit, I thought as you do.

      Going after the rest of it, now, just seems like attempted suicide

      (but, hey, I've been wrong, before - just ask Doug.)

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  37. There will be a story every day in all your swing-state newspapers about someone losing their house, and all their belongings (you, basically, can't get medicaid unless you're penniless, and devoid of assets) due to their inability to get healthcare because of a pre-existing condition.

    Stories about how they had been trying to "hang on" until the new healthcare law kicked in, but how, now, all hope was gone. Then there'll be stories about people dying, and suffering horrible chronic conditions that they don't have the money to treat. There Will be "Stories."

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  38. Remember the stories in the run-up to the Prescription Drug Bill? I do.

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  39. Riley Bechtel, current CEO Bechtel Corp, which will be constructing the Keystone XL pipeline should it ever get built, and noted member of the Bohemian Club, suggests an unlikely picture of a swish behind that manly pipeline being built for those manly Canadian capitalists. Version 2.0 of John Galt?

    (No, I don't give much of a crap, except to note that every demographic group is possessed of its Crazy G-y Cousins. It's Miller Time in the campaign season. I prefer a blended bourbon.)

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  40. .

    Hey, Deuce, you planning on going to see that new movie, Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter?


    .

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  41. Odds of the HC Bill being ruled illegal are up to about 80% on Intrade.

    4:1

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  42. Deuce, art aficionado, esthete, connected man of few words, I'm guessing a member of the Bohemian Club (the uncomfortable stuff was from Nixon's day but ya gotta wonder about these all boys clubs and the ritual part. Gets kinky real fast.)


    And I'm ribbing you of course.


    Riley Bechtel however ... open to speculation.


    It's free range season in the land of knaves and fools.

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  43. Deuce, conflicked, Catholic, mummery of John Galt, when he was young, architect, moron of literature, anti-semite, Virginian, anti- nigger, lovely with the posts, a Presidential candidate I would vote for,

    He just don't have a clue of myth.

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  44. The more interesting question, has Deuce ever seen the cult classic, Bubba Ho-Tep?

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    1. Joe R. Lansdale (born October 28, 1951) is an American author and martial-arts expert. He has written novels and stories in many genres, including Western, horror, science fiction, mystery, and suspense. He has also written for comics as well as Batman: The Animated Series.

      Frequent features of Lansdale's writing are usually deeply ironic, strange or absurd situations or characters, such as Elvis and JFK battling a soul-sucking Ancient Egyptian mummy in a nursing home (the plot of his Bram Stoker Award-nominated novella, "Bubba Ho-Tep," which was made into a movie by Don Coscarelli).[1] He is the winner of the British Fantasy Award, the American Horror Award, the Edgar Award, and eight Bram Stoker Awards. The World Horror Convention made him the recipient of the 2007 Grand Master Award for contributions to the field of Horror fiction.[2]

      He is perhaps best known for his "Hap and Leonard" series of novels which feature two friends, Hap Collins and Leonard Pine, who live in the town of Laborde, Texas, and find themselves solving a variety of often unpleasant crimes.[1] The characters themselves are an unlikely pairing; Hap is a white working class laborer in his mid forties, and Leonard is a gay black man. Both of them are accomplished fighters, and the stories (told from Hap's narrative point of view) feature a great deal of violence, profanity and sex. Lansdale paints a picture of East Texas which is essentially "good" but blighted by racism, ignorance, urban and rural deprivation and corruption in public officials. Some of the subject matter is extremely dark, and has included pedophilia and anti-gay violence. The novels are characterized by sharp humor and "wisecracking" dialogue.

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    1. To me, the more interesting question is can you imagine John Galt in a Cerdinals get up?

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