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Saturday, February 05, 2011

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Barack Hussein Obama: "We want to see this moment of turmoil turn into a moment of opportunity"


Barack Hussein Obama has urged Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak "to make the right decision" to end weeks of unrest, and reiterated a call for an orderly transition of power "that begins now"



Barack Hussein Obama, the 
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Barack Hussein Obama: "We want to see this moment of turmoil turn into a moment of opportunity"
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The Obama Administration betrays Britain to appease the Russians over New START

The latest revelation from Wikileaks is the most damaging so far to the Anglo-American Special Relationship. The disclosure in The Telegraph today that the Obama Administration “secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty” points to an astonishing betrayal of America’s closest friend and ally, that may have significant implications for the relationship between David Cameron and Barack Obama.
According to The Telegraph report:
Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.
Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.
A series of classified messages sent to Washington by US negotiators show how information on Britain’s nuclear capability was crucial to securing Russia’s support for the “New START” deal.
Although the treaty was not supposed to have any impact on Britain, the leaked cables show that Russia used the talks to demand more information about the UK’s Trident missiles, which are manufactured and maintained in the US.
Washington lobbied London in 2009 for permission to supply Moscow with detailed data about the performance of UK missiles. The UK refused, but the US agreed to hand over the serial numbers of Trident missiles it transfers to Britain.
In December I wrote extensively on the White House’s relentless drive to sign the New START Treaty with Moscow as part of its controversial “reset” policy, despite the fact that it represented a staggeringly bad deal for the United States, and a remarkably good one for the Russians. The Telegraph report confirms the extraordinary lengths to which Washington stooped to meet Russian demands, which stunningly included passing on British nuclear secrets to a major strategic adversary.
As the Prime Minister and senior British ministers head to Germany this weekend to take part in the Munich Security Conference, key questions must be asked of their US counterparts, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as to the exact nature of the deal struck with Russia, and what more has been compromised in relation to British national security.
The matter is serious enough to merit Congressional hearings in Washington as well as parliamentary hearings in London. It is easy to see why the Obama team refused to allow the US Senate access to the negotiating documents for New START, as they would have sparked outrage on both sides of the Atlantic that would almost certainly have killed the Treaty. The Telegraph report clearly contradicts repeated claims by the Obama negotiating team that no side deals were struck with their Russian counterparts. Not for the first time, the current US administration has been eager to appease America’s enemies while shamelessly undercutting her allies.

64 comments:

  1. Can there be any doubt about the current infestation in The White House?

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  2. Obama is really an American President? How is this possible?

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  3. He bows to our enemies and betrays our allies! Now that's Change you can believe in!

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  4. Let's see how he "walks this back" in order to get reelected.

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  5. The dimensions of despotism are becoming catastrophic.

    Well done America - tell the maniac to GO. Whoops oh sorry I forget its not in your best interests; repeat me first me first me first. okay I think I'm learning!

    Go yanks! You're #1!!!

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  6. Which maniac are you talking about?

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  7. Take your pick. Talk is cheap. With all politicians what they say is rarely what they deliver. Now we sit back and wait to see just how long it is the attacks etc. go on. I do not think it is going to be as easy but why is it always the business of America to tell everyone what to do when you seem to have enough unsolved problems of your own making??.

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  8. Trident missile the US supplies to Britain

    If the Brits were not US proxies, and their capacities and capabilities just an extension of the US, the Brits would have their own missiles.

    But they do not.

    Those Tridents are "Made in the USA". If we decide it is in the National Interest of the US to disclose how many we have spread around the whirled, well, that is what is in our National Interest.

    The US does not have friends, it has interests. Sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong.

    "Our Country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right; but right or wrong, our country!"

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  9. As the primary nuclear proliferator in the whirled, maybe it is time we should step back, reexamine our policies and programs.

    Just as Ronald W Reagan told US we should.

    There is only one way safely and legitimately to reduce the cost of national security, and that is to reduce the need for it. And this we are trying to do in negotiations with the Soviet Union. We are not just discussing limits on a further increase of nuclear weapons. We seek, instead, to reduce their number. We seek the total elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth.

    The US is taking another step in that direction ...

    ... may He continue to hold us close as we fill the world with our sound — sound in unity, affection, and love — one people under God, dedicated to the dream of freedom that He has placed in the human heart, called upon now to pass that dream on to a waiting and hopeful world.

    God bless you and may God bless America.

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  10. Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have.

    Why don't "conservatives" still stand with Reagan, when Obama moves forward, towards Reagan's ultimate goal?

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  11. We seek the total elimination one day of nuclear weapons from the face of the Earth.

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  12. The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.

    Believe Ronald W Reagan, or not.

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  13. that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    Which well defines ...
    the ideals to which we are dedicated.

    If disclosing the number of Trident missiles the US has supplied to the whirled advances our ideals, enhances the pursuit of Life, Liberty & Happiness for all men, well then, good on US.

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  14. We certainly let the Israeli know how many nuclear warheads we have supplied the Turks.


    According to a recent report, former NATO Secretary-General George Robertson confirmed that Turkey possesses 40-90 "Made in America" nuclear weapons at the Incirlik military base.
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    "Far from making Europe safer, and far from producing a less nuclear dependent Europe, [the policy] may well end up bringing more nuclear weapons into the European continent, and frustrating some of the attempts that are being made to get multilateral nuclear disarmament," (Former NATO Secretary-General George Robertson quoted in Global Security, February 10, 2010)
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    Turkey, ...
    possesses some 90 thermonuclear B61 bunker buster bombs at the Incirlik nuclear air base. (National Resources Defense Council, Nuclear Weapons in Europe , February 2005)

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  16. To bad that GW Bush, or BH Obama have "lost" those nuclear weapons, in Turkey.

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  17. It is possible for BH Obama to be President, Deuce, because he trounced "Maverick" McCain.

    Electoral College:
    Obama 365, McCain 173


    Almost twice the number of votes, Obama won in a landslide.

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  18. McCain ran against the things America believes in - Alternative Energy, Healthcare for Everyone, Winding Down Foreign Adventures.

    Obama ran on an agenda of Green Energy, Bringing the Troops Home, Universal Access to Healthcare, Wall Street Reform.

    The American People agreed with Obama.

    That's how he became President.

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  19. If England doesn't want their Tridents "counted," then, I think, we should quit selling Tridents to England.

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  20. As far as most Americans are concerned, England can go fuck itself.

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  21. Texas had "brownouts" the other day. The conservatives, reflexively, yelled "it must be the Windmills."

    Turns out, it was the coal, and nat gas generators that went down. The Windmills? They just kept on turning, producing electricity. Damned near, the "Only" thing that was working in Texas during the snowstorm.

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  22. Read one place, while ago, that someone has blown up a pipeline that carries nat gas from Egypt to Israel, and Jordan. Oops.

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  23. There's an Oil pipeline that runs through Egypt that carries about Twice as much oil as does the Suez Canal. That's a pretty plump target.

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  24. Newt went to Iowa and said kind things about Ethanol. The Wahabbi St. Journal, and the Koch-supported tea partiers went nuts.

    The Republicans really are too stupid to govern.

    They are, by nature, back-benchers.

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  25. It seems to me that the US is aiming to provide info on all the nukes they provide to allies as well as those they make for their own stockpiles in exchange for similar info in return.

    Does not seem too bad to me.

    As far as Obama is concerned, the many posts on here are clearly from people somewhat right of Caligula.

    Remember what the previous republican idiot did?

    1 increase Americas debt vastly to pay for tax cuts for the rich

    2 create the biggest crisis in the economy since the depression

    3 Invade Iraq and Afghanistan; completely discretionary adventures which ended up killing tens possibly hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

    4 Afghanistan is particularly badly thought out; armies have broken like waves there. Sooner or later (probably sooner), the US will leave and the mujahadeen aka taliban will be back. I am sure that the US will proclaim it to be a victory.

    It is certainly true that Obama has not lived up to his rhetoric, but what president does?

    That he dislikes the Brits is pretty self evident. If there is a special relationship it should be robust and two way like thatcher/reagan, not poodle like which the Blair/Bush one certainly was

    Could be that Obama would respect such a relationship even if he felt uncomfortable with it

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  26. As far as most Americans are concerned, England can go fuck itself.…UP YOURS RUFUS!!!

    This "Special Relationship" seems to be a mighty one-sided affair lately!!! Friends are supposed to be trusted - who can really trust America to do and say the right things in a spirit of cooperation - or is this purely nothing more than the 'self-interest' of the USA coming first - at any cost??

    Go fuck ourseleves or let our godd friends do it for us?

    These leaked 'Wiki' cables are going to show the USA's true colours, on many subjects!!! You have been heavily embarrassed on many issues already!!!

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  27. Fuck you, too. We fought two wars to be rid of your king/queen/bonny princes stupidity, and we spent the first half of the last century bailing your "cricket/croquet/whatever the fuck it is" asses out of jam, after jam.

    You people need to go about your business, and we'll take our red necks down the road in pursuit of Our destiny.

    Let me be real clear. I don't like OUR politicians. I sure as fuck don't like our politicians cozying up with your politicians. All that spells to my country ass is double trouble.

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  28. Countries have interests, anon, not friends.

    Learn it, Live it, Love it!

    If you do not enjoy the "Special Relationship" on US terms, take your Queen and State Religion and move on out.

    Where else are you going to go?

    The sun has sunk on the British Empire.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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    Those Tridents are "Made in the USA". If we decide it is in the National Interest of the US to disclose how many we have spread around the whirled, well, that is what is in our National Interest.

    NUTZ!

    Any worthwhile business wouldn't hand out proprietary information on their clients. Here we are talking about handing out national secrets of a client and ally to buy the good will of a potential rival.

    Once again the U.S. looks weak and Obama and Clinton look like pushovers and weaklings.

    No wonder Barack and Hillary were upset about Wikileaks.

    Way to ruin my breakfast Deuce.

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  30. You Brits weren't thinking about Us in 1956 when you caught us preoccupied with Hungary, and together with France, and Israel invaded Egypt, and tried to steal the Canal.

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  31. This ain't "bizness," Q. This is Existential.

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  32. The Russians would be stupid to sign an Arms Treaty with us if we were willy-nilly shoving nukes to Britain under the table, and unaccounted for.

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  33. Obama is clearly a man from the left. All his instincts push him in that direction and all his actions point to it.

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  34. Seems to me the Brits just loved the Obama's.

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  35. That's not "All Bad," Deuce.

    Pure "Right Wing" Countries aren't no picnic.

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  36. I think, basically, Obama doesn't like "white" people.

    He has to put up with us.

    He doesn't have to put up with the Brits' lily-white asses.

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  37. I love my wife, and kids, Deuce.

    I put up with the government.

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  38. I have no problem with Mubarak, considering how he came to power and how things could have been without him. Think Iran.

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  39. What about Iran? Thinking back on it: What have I lost vis a vis the Shah, the Ayatollas, Ahmadumfuck, etc?

    What slight difference has it possibly made in my life?

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  40. Obama is not a friend to those allies who have been faithful to the US.

    His vision is a utopia ruled by elitists while he and his staff are actually more like children playing adults. If we are nice to them, they will be nice to us. How juvenile. As for the Bush haters, at least Bush was a man of conviction. Everything he did may not have neen correct, but he did what he thought was correct, not popular. Obama blows with the wind, and in 2012 he will be blown out of office.

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    This ain't "bizness," Q. This is Existential.

    Do we have to give up the last shread of honor and dignity we have (even with regard to allies you don't like). This isn't about England or Russia. It's about America.

    How many allies to we have to screw over (starting with Vietnam in my lifetime) before your satisfied?

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  42. I agree with Reagan's assessment on the Shah.

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  43. If I were a major shareholder of Exxon, or BP, the Middle East would be important.

    As it is, it just seems like a case of I'll piss my money away buying oil from "This" set of thieves vs. "That" set of thieves.

    I don't want to buy from either set of thieves. I'd rather buy my energy from the farmer across the road, and processed by my next-door neighbor.

    Exxon doesn't want that. BP doesn't want that. The Koch Brothers don't want that. The Wahabbi St Journal doesn't want that. Fox News doesn't want that. Larry Kudlow, and the "investment class" don't want that. So Fuck Them. And, Fuck the Republican Politicians. And, the Dem Politicians. And The Fucking Brits. And every would-be swinging eunoch in the Middle East.

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  44. We didn't "screw over" anyone. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would recognize that we can't hide our nukes on an "allies" subs, and then expect the Russians to cooperate, and disclose the locations of all their missiles.

    The Brits know this. If they don't like it, they can build their own.

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  45. I was unaware that "most people" lived in northern Mississippi.

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  46. And, as far as "allies" go. If you think the Vietnamese people liked that corrupt-assed Theiu regime any better than Uncle Ho you've bought another bridge.

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  47. After the jury gets KSM off, don't worry, he promises to take a cue from OJ and look for the real mastermind of 9-11.

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  48. Thieu made Mubarak look like a cross between Mother Theresa, and Thomas Jefferson.

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    We didn't "screw over" anyone. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would recognize that we can't hide our nukes on an "allies" subs, and then expect the Russians to cooperate, and disclose the locations of all their missiles.

    Bull!

    This isn't Turkey, sitting on "our" missiles. We sold them to England. More than likely we went out of our way to sell them to England. And we probably made a pretty penny on them too.

    And this wasn't a negotiation between Russia and Nato. It was bilateral, U.S. and Russia.

    You say fuck England. I'd say fuck Russia. The U.S. needs to take a Karras course on negotiations. This administration has zero idea on how strong their bargaining position is. They give away the farm and any respect our allies might have for us out of habit. Doesn't matter if it's arms treaties or economic negotiations with China.

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  50. Ditto, Quirk.

    Re: Negotiating with Russia. How is that going to solve the problem of nuclear Pakistan or North Korea?

    Besides that, can Russia be trusted?

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    And, as far as "allies" go. If you think the Vietnamese people liked that corrupt-assed Theiu regime any better than Uncle Ho you've bought another bridge.

    Kissinger sold out SV in Paris, Congress followed up. Ask the Hmong how grateful they were as we walked out and left them to the tender mercies of the Pathet Lao.

    Oh, I forgot. The Hmong weren't really our allies. That was a CIA operation.

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  52. The Hmong? Really?

    You've been watching too many John Wayne, Green Beret movies, Q.

    As one who has cracked bread (and, a few bottles of ba mui ba) with our Hmong brethren, let me inform you that they are a particularly fun, and bloodthirsty bunch of party-hards that just happened to be on "our" (the wrong) side on that one.

    The joke was, the winner got to go home, and the loser would stay and "govern" the Hmongs.

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  53. Look, I don't care if we ever negotiate a "treaty" with the Russians. In fact, I'd just as soon we didn't. However, if we're going to the Brits can just suck it up, or build the own damned missiles. Why would we possibly give a shit?

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  54. Let's be honest. We whine about Pakistan, and N. Korea, and we're the biggest Nuclear Proliferator in the Universe. By far.

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    However, if we're going to the Brits can just suck it up, or build the own damned missiles.

    Tell that to the military industrial complex selling the missiles. We sell it to them when we want to make money or push our national priorities and then fuck them over when it suits us.

    It's easy writing the Brits off but who ran one whole sector in Iraq for years. The Commonwealth including Canada, Australia, et al were always the first to step up when we asked.

    I have no problem striking any pose we want with the Brits, from extensive to non-existent. But don't tell them one thing and do another.

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  56. Okay, okay, they're our very bestest buds. We'll all get together, and take a nice, long, warm, soapy shower the first chance we get.

    That still doesn't change the fact that any sub-moron has to recognize that we can't do a nukes-deal without disclosing how many there are.

    Someone is just milking this for "diplomatic/political" advantage.

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  57. A judge in Florida ruled ObamaCare unconstitutional.

    The Obama Administration is proceeding as though he didn't rule at all. They are not even "dignifying" the ruling by requesting a stay pending a review by the appellate court.

    Meanwhile they tell Barky in Egypt to listen to the vox populi. Go figure.

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  58. I am always in the side that is having its innocents targeted. Always.

    If a Jewish settler tries to blow up a mosque in Ramada, I'm against that Jewish settler.

    If a Muslim suicide bomber blows up a market with women and children, I condemn that bomber.

    If an American officer says, "We had to destroy My Lai in order to save it" I want that officer court-martialed.

    If a right-wing talk show host says nuke Mecca, I want him canned or his network girlcotted.

    This view comes from my training in the US Navy, and the sense of honor that was instilled in me under Reagan as Commander-in-Chief over my six years of service.

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