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Friday, November 19, 2010

I'm sorry sir, could you explain that again?

Bernanke hits back at critics of bond-buying plan

WASHINGTON – Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is seeking to defuse criticism of the Fed's $600 billion bond-purchase plan by arguing that it's needed to boost the economy and reduce unemployment. But he warns the Fed's program can't succeed on its own.
In a speech prepared for delivery on Friday, Bernanke makes his most forceful case to date that Congress also must provide more stimulus aid.
Without more stimulus, high unemployment could persist for years, he says in the speech, his first since the Fed announced the program Nov. 3. But in making that argument, Bernanke risks heightening complaints that he's plunging the Fed into partisan politics.
Mr. Bernanke says that "Without more stimulus, high unemployment could persist for years."  We've been told that if the economy were to miraculously recover this month and start adding 240,000 jobs per month, it would take years, (ten years?) to get the unemployment numbers back down the 7% range.  

The question Mr. Bernanke, is how long will high unemployment persist after you have spent another $600 billion followed by possibly yet another $600 billion.  Exactly what is it that we'll be getting for our possible $1.2 trillion investment above and beyond what we have kited checks for already?  I don't think a clear answer will be forthcoming.  

Mr. Bernanke is going to have to do a better job of selling QE II.


  1. A friend of mine owns a golf course. He decided to go solar and save a very large electricity bill and help finance it with some very substantial government subsidies.

    He was determined to buy the photovoltaic panels from a US manufacturer, To his amazement he had two choices, Norway or China. Bell labs developed the photovoltaic cell fifty years ago.

    Someone needs to be put against the wall, blindfolded.

    There are four things to be done:

    1. Build 100 identical nuclear power plants on federal lands suspending all state and federal agency bureaucratic hurdles. That should take 6 years.

    2. Support the T. Boone Pickens plan to convert every 18 wheeler to NG. He says it can de done in 6 years and reduce imported oil by 50%.

    3. Support the ideas of Rufus and build a cellulose ethanol or diesel plant in every US County.

    4. Build solar manufacturing facilities in every state that has enough sunshine to make them viable. Place a 100% tariff on any manufacturer of the same panels that does not follow the same environmental and safety standards required of US manufacturers.

    Finance it all with tort reform, reducing lawsuits by 75%, revenue bonds bought by the fed and exchanged for the bullshit bonds in the lockbox, and tariffs on imported oil and Chinese manufacturers.

  2. In a speech prepared for a conference at the European Central Bank on Friday morning, Bernanke said that China’s decision to undervalue the yuan has essentially thrown a monkey wrench into the global economic recovery.

    It is not too late to respond, in fact the timing is perfect, but the stimulus should bypass the banks and Wall Street casinos. It should go directly to American industry and Entrepreneurs investing in American factories. The investment should be to new smaller private companies that will actually build something in the US.

  3. The FED obviously sees some very dark clouds on the horizon.

  4. On that point, I trust Bernanke over the Chinese.

    Continued US high unemployment will start getting ugly, real ugly.

  5. The Russell Company had a long history of exploiting the Chinese for their personal profit.

    They exported Chinese coolies around the whirled, to include the US. Remembering it was China that supplied the labor to build US transportation infrastructure. The trans-Continental railroad would never have been built, without the Chinese laborers, supplied by the Russell Company.

    Recall also that it was opium that the Russell Company imported to China, to help the English maintain a subservient and orderly society, there.

    Knowing that the Washington elitists, to include GW Bush and JFKerry in the present era and FD Roosevelt in the past, all have deep connections to the Russell Company intellectual heritage, through the Skull & Bones Society at Yale or by blood relations to past Russell Company officers.

    Why would anyone be surprised that these fellows put private capitalist interests above their social responsibilities to their fellow Americans.

    These fellows, the elitist Boners, are all capitalists that use State power to further their private interests.
    Always have, always will.

    Huge profits have been made, in the "opening" of China.

    Everything else, especially their foreign policy protocols, fall into place, when you see the "big picture". You're looking at it from a US centric perspective, Deuce.

    Our leadership is made up of global profiteers, the Pirates of the Potomac.

    Just follow the money.
    It tells the real tale.

  6. Better that the US government spends the next $1.2 trillion in the US on infrastructure projects, rather than another $1.2 trillion on weapons and foreign adventures.

    What is the real purpose behind defending Afghanistan's poppy fields, from the Afghans that live there?

  7. With the July 27, 2010 enactment of the FY2010 Supplemental Appropriations Act (H.R. 4899/P.L. 111-201) Congress has approved a total of $1.121 trillion for military operations, base security, reconstruction, foreign aid, embassy costs, and veterans’ health care for the three operations initiated since the 9/11 attacks: Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) Afghanistan and other counter terror operations; Operation Noble Eagle (ONE), providing enhanced security at military bases; and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF).

    Of this $1.121 trillion total, CRS estimates that Iraq will receive about $751 billion (67%), OEF $336 billion (30%) and enhanced base security about $29 billion (3%), with about $5 billion that CRS cannot allocate (1/2%). About 94% of the funds are for DOD, 5% for foreign aid programs and embassy operations, and 1% for medical care for veterans.

    Comparing June of 2009 with June of 2010, average monthly DOD spending for Iraq fell by 25% from $7.2 billion to $5.4 billion while troop strength dropped by 46%. For Afghanistan, average DOD spending grew from $3.5 billion to $5.7 billion, a 63% change while troop strength grew by 70%.

    Troop levels are expected to fall to 50,000 with the withdrawal in Iraq and to rise to 98,000 with the additional deployments to Afghanistan by September 2010.

    On July 27, 2010, Congress passed H.R. 4899/P.L. 111-212, the FY2010 Supplemental request and provided an additional $34.4 billion in war funding for DOD and the State Department, largely to cover the cost of deploying 30,000 additional troops to Afghanistan that President Obama announced on December 1, 2009 and to ramp up foreign aid levels in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

    With passage of the FY2010 supplemental, cumulative war funding totals $1.12 trillion including $751 billion for Iraq, $336 billion for Afghanistan, and $29 billion for enhanced security. In FY2010, Afghanistan receives about 60% of the total and Iraq 40%, a reversal of the previous year.

    The Cost of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Other Global War on Terror Operations Since 9/11

    Congressional Research Office

  8. Recall that the Iraqi oil sales were going to pay for the occupation.

    Another Bush Administration falsehood, designed to obscure the truth and mislead the US electorate.

    Just as the surge into Afghanistan, to secure the poppy fields of Helmand Province was sold to US by President Obama and his team of Ivy League elitists as a path to peace.

  9. Comparing June of 2009 with June of 2010, average monthly DOD spending for Iraq fell by 25% from $7.2 billion to $5.4 billion while troop strength dropped by 46%. For Afghanistan, average DOD spending grew from $3.5 billion to $5.7 billion, a 63% change while troop strength grew by 70%.

    Afghanistan =$5.7 billion per month

    To deploy 800 US Army Rangers, to Tora Bora, to kill or capture Osama, that was:
    "to big a footprint".

    The historical reality tells a different tale.

  10. Combined spending in Iraq and Afghanistan

    $11.1 billion per month.

    800 Rangers to Tora Bora, to kill or capture Osama, in 2002:

    "To big a footprint"

    The truth is much easier to see clearly, $1.12 trillion dollars later.

  11. On one hand you have a group of economists who think our problem is inflation. On the other, you have the school who is worried about deflation. One group thinks the Consumer Price Index is just fine. Others think we should use the PPI.

    The question is whether the cure will be better or worse than the illness.

    What is the stimulus going to cost us?

  12. I heard a story linking the increased predator/reaper strikes in Pakistan/NW Territories and the terror threat to Germany.

    Seems that Islamic terrorists are being trained in the NWT for Mumbai style attacks in Germany.

  13. Who is us, whit?

    Who is included, who is excluded from that elusively defined grouping?

    What will the lack of the stimulus cost Americans that earn between $25,000 and 100,000 per year?

    A two wage earner family of four?

    The Federal move at Government Motors, it saved how many domestic jobs in that industry?

    How many in Mexico and Canada?

    What would have been lost, without it?

  14. That sounds like a problem for Germany and Pakistan to work out, whit.

    Not a lot of US national interests, there.

    Little reason for US to subsidize military operations that protect Germany, while their export economy is booming and ours is in the doldrums.

  15. Would a Bombay style terrorist attack, in Germany, cost the US $5.7 billion USD?


  16. It is hard to find a number that quantifies German spending, in Afghanistan, but this is telling,

    A thriftier Bundeswehr might irk some NATO members. New members to NATO from eastern Europe are directed to spend 2% of their gross domestic product on defense, Mr. Riecke said, while German defense spending, currently around 1.5% of GDP, is moving closer to 1%.

    From the Wall Street Journal.

  17. Free trade uber alles Republicans.

    Who fed the tiger?
    Posted: November 18, 2010
    5:48 pm Eastern

    © 2010
    Missiles fired from the Chinese mainland could destroy five of the six major U.S. air bases in the Far East. So states a new report of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, adding:

    "Saturation missile strikes could destroy U.S. air defenses, runways, parked aircraft, and fuel and maintenance facilities. Complicating this scenario is the future deployment of China's anti-ship ballistic missile, which could hold U.S. aircraft carriers at bay outside their normal operating range."

    Opposite Taiwan, China's missile force has reached 1,600.

    Beijing is also building rockets, submarines and surface fleets to extend her dominance out to the third chain of islands, enabling the People's Liberation Army to strike U.S. carriers and bases as far away as Guam.

    Since the demise of the blue-water navy of Russian Adm. Sergei Gorshkov, the Pacific has been an American lake. No more.

    China lays claim to all the Paracel and Spratly islands of the South China Sea, all the Senkakus in the East China Sea, and all the oil and gas beneath and around those islets and reefs.

    America's offer to mediate these claims, which involve half a dozen other anxious Asian nations, has been rudely rebuffed by Beijing.

    Read the truth behind the Asian giant's manufacturing and exporting boom in "Poorly Made in China: An Insider's Account of the Tactics Behind China's Production Game"

    At the G20 gathering in Seoul, South Korea, Barack Obama got an earful from China about the Fed sinking the dollar and learned that Beijing would not be revaluing its currency to help with our chronic trade deficits.

    As China holds a huge share of U.S. debt, Obama is not about to get sassy with our banker, who might just cut off the credit America, running a budget deficit of 10 percent of gross domestic product, desperately needs.

    Napoleon said of the Middle Kingdom, "Let (China) sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world." The shaking has begun.


  18. The US spends 4.2% of GDP, on defense spending.

    Should the US follow Germany's lead, to 1%?

    Or should they buck up?

  19. Someone needs to be put against the wall, blindfolded.

    I'd suggest the City Planner of the City of Moscow, but it wouldn't make that big of an impact.

    Deuce's 1 through 4 are my 1 through 4 too. Especially 1 through 3.

    100 nuke plants, we won't care if the sun shines.

  20. {...}So the question arises: Who put us in this predicament? Who awakened, fed and nurtured this tiger to where she is growling at all Asia and baring her teeth at the United States? Answer: the free trade uber alles Republicans.

    Richard Nixon opened China. His 1972 Shanghai communique pointed inexorably to what Jimmy Carter did in 1979: break relations and abrogate our security pact with Taiwan, and recognize the People's Republic as the sole legitimate government of China.

    In 1982, the Ronald Reagan White House signed on to a communique with Deng Xiaoping's China by which we agreed to reduce and eventually end all arms sales to Taiwan as tensions in the strait diminished.

    Under George H.W. Bush, Beijing's crushing of the Tiananmen Square protest with tanks was not allowed to interfere with business.

    Repeatedly, Republicans voted to extend most-favored-nation status to China. Dissenters were castigated as "isolationists and protectionists."

    Under Bush II, the GOP made MFN permanent and sponsored Beijing's entry into the World Trade Organization, despite China's downing of a U.S. surveillance plane and incarceration of its American crew on Hainan Island. Colin Powell was forced to apologize.

    For decades, corporate America championed investing in China and trade with China, though the massive transfer of U.S. factories, technologies and jobs was clearly empowering China and weakening America.


  21. {...}

    Review commission chair Dan Slane says his members have concluded that "China is adopting a highly discriminatory policy of favoring domestic producers over foreign manufacturers. Under the guise of fostering 'indigenous innovation' ... the government of China appears determined to exclude foreigners from bidding on government contracts at the central, provincial and local levels."

    Imagine that! The Chinese are ignoring WTO rules and putting China first. Don't they understand how the Global Economy works? You're not supposed to tilt the field in favor of the home team.

    One knows not whether to laugh or cry.

    The policy the Chinese are pursuing, economic nationalism, was virtually invented by the Republican Party. Protectionism was the declared policy of the GOP from the day its first president took office in 1861 to the day Calvin Coolidge left in 1929.

    Free trade was the policy of a Great Britain whose clocks those generations of Americans cleaned, even as the Chinese are cleaning ours.

    As for a U.S. policy of containment, we have no vital interest in China's border dispute with India, or Beijing's claims to islands in the South and East China seas, or in China's claims against Russia dating to the ninth century.

    Time for our Asians friends to take responsibility for defending their own claims. As LBJ said in 1964, "We are not about to send Americans boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." This time, let's mean it.

    The day of the globalist has come and gone.

  22. Other sources put current US spending at 4.7% of GDP.

    The 4.2% number, that was from 2008.
    Spending on the military is up, under Obama.

  23. Pat Buchanan and there is not much if anything that I disagree with.

  24. While 100 nuclear plants may be auspices, there is 0% chance of that course being taken.

    So eliminate #1 from the "wish list". 40 years of of no-nuke propaganda have taken their toll.

    Get used to it and adapt to the political realities of the day.

  25. Pat's best line, the one that tells the tale

    Sorry, but that cat cannot be walked back.

  26. The US needs a policy of 5% growth in GDP and rebuilding wages for the middle class. Everything else should be subservient.

    That growth goal should preempt every regulation and treaty.

  27. heh - O Charlie - A Charming Betrayal of Trust

    As he once told us in all seriousness, every time he'd call down there to check on his taxes, they'd start talking to him in Spanish

    Charlie! O Charlie!

  28. I think the public's opinion is changing on nuke plants, at least here no one seems to have any problem with it, other than the professional bitchers. We could take out the four Snake River dams, put in nuke plants, bring the massive steelhead/salmon runs back, if we really wanted to do it.

  29. When we needed a nuclear bomb in August 1942, starting from almost zero, we dropped the first nuclear bomb in August 1945.

    Building 100 nuclear plants in 6 years is a cake walk.

    We need this kind of leadership and dedication to the mission at hand:

    According to a letter to the editor written by the daughter of Paul L. Troast, the first chairman of the NJ Turnpike Authority, Kathleen Troast Pitney:

    “ Governor Driscoll appointed three men to the Turnpike Authority in the late 1940s – Maxwell Lester, George Smith and Paul Troast, my father, as chairman. They had no enabling legislation and no funding. They were able to open more than two-thirds of the road in 11 months, completing the whole (project) in less than two years... When the commissioners broached the subject of landscaping the road... the governor told them he wanted a road to take the interstate traffic ... off New Jersey's existing roads. Since 85 percent of the traffic at that time was estimated to be from out of state, why spend additional funds on landscaping?

    Close the law schools.

  30. Rather, pass legislation that bars certain kinds of environmental law suits. Close, or handcuff, the EPA.

    I've a soft place in my heart for law schools. Everyone should go to law school, just for self protection, if nohing else, and some do, too.

    I was so hoping Stella Starlight was a real lawyer.

  31. We need three shift operations, seven days a week. I remember as a boy the factories and mills around Allentown and Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

    They closed on Christmas.

    The night skies over Bethlehem were fire red from Bethlehem Steel and BS products were shipped around the World.

    Anyone in government or industry, finance or banking, any politician that says this cannot be done again should be fired.

  32. I wouldn't have the money for this computer without my lawyer, and you'd all be missing my brilliant insights into the nature of things :)

    I'd still be working, and for somebody else, too.

    Work is the curse of the drinking class

  33. Yea, where is Stella? Maybe I upset her.

    If you read me Stella, it's nothing personal baby.

  34. Maybe she's being sued by the legal profession for impersonating a lawyer.

  35. Well, bob, how is that nuke plant in Idaho progressing?

    We went from continual updates ...
    To no news.

    Must be a reason, like it is dead in the water, or what?

  36. No, I just got out of the habit of posting about it, for some reason. I'll try to post something.

    Was telling my son he might want to look into AEHI, since the CL said I'd be dead before it would pay off for me.

    Bristol the Pistol May Take It All

    November 17, 2010
    For Immediate Release

    Media: Dan Hamilton

    AEHI Director of Corporate Communications
    Tel: (208) 939-9311

    AEHI Provides Financial Update and Key Business Successes

    BOISE, Idaho, November 17, 2010: Alternate Energy Holdings, Inc. (OTCQB:AEHI; www.aehipower.com) today provided a business update in conjunction with the filing of the company's quarterly 10-Q report.

    Payette County Planning and Zoning Commissioners are moving forward on a rezone application filed by AEHI. Commissioners will hold an initial hearing on December 2nd, 2010; this after County Commissioners earlier unanimously approving a change to the county's comprehensive plan, which favored AEHI's proposal to build a nuclear power plant
    AEHI secured a $150M funding facility with Roswell Capital Partners, a firm that since 1994 has provided in excess of $1B for 155 small-cap public and private companies, which can be used to pay for the land, water rights and NRC application fee in preparation for building a proposed nuclear power plant in Payette County, Idaho
    AEHI received endorsements from every mayor in Payette County, plus the Payette Chamber of Commerce and the Fruitland Chamber of Commerce regarding the proposed nuclear power plant in Payette County, Idaho
    AEHI opened a Green World Water(TM) office in West Africa, to assist in the distribution of information and marketing of nuclear desalination systems
    AEHI offered a nuclear desalination system at cost to Pakistan to aid the flood-stricken country byproviding long-term clean water sustainability
    AEHI signs Memorandum of Understanding with Tubestar Oil and Gas in India regarding the negotiation of a nuclear desalination system
    As of September 30th, 2010, AEHI has more than $8.5M in the bank with no long-term debt
    "We are very confident that we are near the end of the rezone process, which we expect could be finished as early as December or January. And we now have the financing in place to begin acquiring land, water and federal nuclear site approval once this process is complete," said Don Gillispie, AEHI CEO.

    "I believe the support we received from mayors and chambers of commerce in Payette County echoes that of local residents, who showed upwards of 80% support for AEHI's plan to build a nuclear power plant at recent hearings. I think this speaks volumes as to where we could be in this process in just a couple months."

    "With the opening of an office in West Africa, AEHI subsidiary Green World Water(TM) is now positioned to begin accepting orders for nuclear desalination facilities built by China National Nuclear Corporation, in a part of world that may be the hardest hit when it comes to problems involving unsanitary water supplies."


  38. "I believe the support we received from mayors and chambers of commerce in Payette County echoes that of local residents, who showed upwards of 80% support for AEHI's plan to build a nuclear power plant at recent hearings. I think this speaks volumes as to where we could be in this process in just a couple months."

    80% support. I think that is not an exaggeration.

  39. We at PETA might support this

    I'll carefully read my PETA e-mails.

    Spinach sandwiches, and salmonella poisoning.

  40. That last was tongue in cheek, no offense intended.

  41. Cooper named three school districts she knows of -- Philadelphia, Austin, Tex., and Montgomery County, Md., -- that have already indicated they will not support salad bars. Concerns have been raised that elementary school children in particular might be prone to spread disease at salad bars because they are too short for the standard "sneeze guard" installed on most salad bars, or because they might use their hands instead of the serving utensils provided.

  42. from Hot Air -

    Four year old met his mother’s miscarried child in Heaven
    posted at 8:45 am on November 19, 2010 by The Right Scoop

    Well he’s 7 years old now and it took a couple of years for his parents to really understand what happened, but when Colton Burpo was four years he was having surgery in the hospital for a burst appendix. While he was in surgery he apparently had some sort of out of body experience and could see what his parents were doing. He witnessed that his dad was praying and his mom on her cellphone. Both parents say they have no clue how he knew that, but that it’s absolutely true. And the story just gets more interesting from there.

    Apparently during the same surgery Colton went to Heaven where he recounts how he met his grandfather who he had never known, who he later recognized in photos. The interesting thing is that he didn’t recognize photos of his grandfather as an old man with glasses, which is how everyone knew him, but rather as a young man. Colton’s father literally had go find a photo of ‘Pop’ as a young man before Colton was able to recognize him. Now that’s pretty wild.

    But I must say what really surprised me was that Colton’s father recounts how Colton, still 4 years old, told his mother “you had a baby die in your tummy didn’t you”, which completely shocked them both because they had never told him about their miscarriage. They asked him how he knew and he said that he met his sister in Heaven and she told him what happened.


    Now while I know this story is quite uncommon, I must say that I have no reason to disbelieve what they are saying, and in fact it seems to corroborate what I already believe to be true as a Christian. I’m sure there are some of you who will be naysayers, but to me this is pretty amazing and rather difficult to simply reject out of hand. Watch the interview below to hear more about this story:

    Cross Posted at www.therightscoop.com

    Going back to bed to dream of things to come....things rich and strange.

  43. We have not heard much from the affirmed action figure General Eric Holder, probably the biggest fuck-up ever at DOJ.

    Wonder what boy genius is up to next?

  44. Holder is pre-occupied with the amount of alcohol in caffeine drinks.

  45. Hasn't Buchanan visited the EB? Was that ever confirmed?

  46. It certainly looked as if he was reading us for a period.

  47. Israel and U.S. Struggling to Conclude Settlement Freeze Pact -

    Crispian Balme

    Talks between Israeli and U.S. officials aimed at reviving Middle East peace negotiations have hit snags over incentives promised by Washington to persuade Israel to resume a freeze of Jewish settlement building. An Israeli official said on Friday the U.S. appeared reluctant to commit to paper all the promises Netanyahu says he was offered verbally last week.
    The latest snag concerned a pledge that Israel says U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made to provide the country free of charge 20 F-35 stealth warplanes worth $3 billion. Netanyahu's coalition allies demanded a written pledge from the U.S. to make clear the building freeze did not include east Jerusalem and to spell out there would be no U.S. pressure for any subsequent moratoria.
    The Israeli official said there appeared to be a disconnect between the White House and State Department, with Obama unhappy that Clinton had offered so much. However, he added that Netanyahu's office thought a deal could be reached in the coming hours and that the prime minister would get the necessary backing from his cabinet at the weekend. (Reuters)

  48. Holder and others are worried about the Four Loko Consumption

    Does sound like you'd have to have an iron gut to handle that stuff.

    Big problem in Florida, some comments say. Never seen it around here.

  49. Fashion Frontiers - The Islamic Necktie

    Nice saber curved design, including some islamic saying or other.

    Muslims should dress appropriately.

    Don't go to the airport without it.

    You won't be profiled.

  50. Has China reached Peak Coal?

    Can th World be all that far behind?

    The consequences are large.

  51. Philadelphia Eagles Soar with Green Power.

    80 Neat as Hell-looking micro wind turbines, and 2,500 Solar P.V. Panels.


  52. It looks like that Lake County, Ind. Trash to Ethanol Plant is going to become a reality.

    Between 15 Billion Gallons from Corn, 9 Billion Gallons (or more) from Corn Stover/Cobs, and 12 Billion Gallons from Trash the 36 Billion Gallons planned for 2012 is a lock.

    It's a Good start.

  53. His action means one thing: the recovery isn't taking place and the numbers they see are pointing to another fall.

  54. I came across a deal today where I could by 2000 electronic items manufactured by a supplier in China and then I could resell them here for twice as much. Which transaction is worth more to the respective countries?

  55. Depends on who you ask, Ash. The IMF says Canada would be getting the best end of the deal.

    But, down here in the real world where we Know that the companies that are producing those goods are highly subsidized by an enslaved population, and a government that seems intent upon destroying one Canadian/American industry after another by Predatory pricing, we might come to a different conclusion.

  56. I agree with Hal and Deuce.

    The PPI for non-residential construction continues to remain flat (no price pressures on materials). Diesel prices inched down in September after a small increase in August. Residential permit values dropped this month and remains below last year’s value. Home & Condo sales decreased this month and remains weak. Florida’s unemployment rate increased for the 3rd straight month to 11.9%. Nationally, only 22% of the states (including Florida) saw increases compared to 54% last month. The national construction unemployment rate remains at 17.0% and is almost double the overall unemployment rate. Heavy civil employment has increased for the sixth consecutive month. The Purchasing Managers Index (PMI) was up to 56.9% in October, but remained in an expanding state (above 50%) for the 15th consecutive month. The Construction Backlog Indicator for the south region dropped in the last quarter indicating an end to the ARRA funding. This is a forward looking indicator that measures the amount of work under contract. It is calculated by taking the current dollar value available on active contracts and dividing by the 2007 revenues (base year) and multiplied by 12 months. Crude oil prices escalated to almost $88 dollars per barrel in early November, but retreated back to the $80 dollars per barrel mark. Speculators and global demand are escalating crude oil prices. Crude oil prices are projected to end the year between $85-$95 dollars per barrel.

    Did you catch the part that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (Stimulus) funding is winding down.

    The economy could soon double-dip and without some kind of "demand" the dip could be drastic and prolonged.

    My question is: What are the costs of action (Government spending and more debt), inaction, or government cutbacks and budget balancing measure?

    You have three doors. behind one door lies recovery. Do you choose;

    Door #1 - More Federal Stimulus (possibly another $1.2 trillion).

    Door #2 - No more stimulus spending but no major budget cutbacks.

    or Door #3 - No more Federal Stimulus and major cutbacks in the Federal and State budgets.

    Coming up tomorrow - The Revenue Doors.

  57. Bethlehem Steel ruled the whirled after WWII when everyone else was in ruins or had never advanced beyond the third whirled.

    They and organized labor killed the domestic steel industry despite the attempts to save it via tariffs.

    There's no getting around globalization. It's as inevitable as the rising sun. Best to learn how to deal with it. Will it be fair? Is life fair?

    The American auto industry did itself in, too. Again, the Unions share much of the blame.

    American consumers voted with their wallets. Wall Mart and China saw a need and filled it. Now India and Brazil are the go-getters while we languish as a consumer, service economy.

    The pendulum can swing back our way as long as we leave our entrepreneurs free to innovate and compete.

    The Government that governs best, governs least.

  58. The "Main" thing to remember is that "The Main thing is the *Main* Thing."

    And, the *Main* Thang is getting people to work.

    One thing holding back the *Main* thing is the High Cost of Imported Energy.

    First Action: Start building Ethanol Refineries, in Every County.

    American Construction Workers using American Steel to produce biorefineries

    to employ American Workers to use American Ag, and Muni Waste to replace Middle Eastern Oil.

  59. At the same time bring the American Troops home from their duties guarding Afghan poppy fields, and put them on the border with Mexico to preserve the American jobs for Americans.

    At the same time declare all Corporate Profits held offshore *Payable Now.* Bring those Profits, and Investment Dollars home to finance our own Biorefinery buildout.

    Simultaneously, whip a 25% Tariff on ALL Imports from ALL Currency Manipulators, such as China.

  60. "Most Favored Nation" trade status was conferred upon China in a non-partisan way. Look at one of the chief proponents of globalization, The Council on Foreign Relations. It's not Republican or Democrat. In the early 90's as a candidate and early in his first term, Clinton was talking tough on China. CFR member David Gergen was installed in the White House and voila, MFN status was granted.

  61. Some economists think that all you really need to do is seriously threaten China with tariffs.

  62. Maybe write them a Stern letter.

  63. No time for that. Let's just send'em a bill, and a subpoena.

  64. We can save ten bucks; send'em both by the same courier.

  65. Here's where we at:

    The great ship of the seas, World Globalization, has hit a titanic iceberg. The international crew has gathered in their assigned stations to assess and repair the damage. The Officers await anxiously for good news from below, knowing that when they give the order to abandon ship, it will be every man for himself.

  66. Meanwhile everyone is desperately trying to jockey for currency position in order to sell to the others. China, Brazil and India are saying "WTH? We make and the US consumes." But the US ain't consumin'.

    A tariff war will seal the deal on the hiatus of whirled trade and globalization. Just like it did before. It will be every man/nation for himself.

    And the walls came tumblin' down.

  67. We'll be fine if we can get the "Goldman/Wall Street" influence out of the White House, and Congress.

    I'm leaning back toward Pawlenty. I think.

    But, Jindall still intrigues me.

    I'm just waiting for one of them (anyone) to say something cogent about energy.

  68. The difference is: Smoot-Hawley, basically, put a tariff on Everyone. Putting a tariff on one, or two Currency Manipulators wouldn't be the same thing.

  69. You've got to remember, the Elite Bank Criminals of the world have invested a huge amount of money in China. They have a vested interest in China putting me, and thee, out of work, and keeping us there.

    They Are Not on "Our" Side.

  70. In the long run, if we don't tip too far right or left, we'll be okay but we'll have to nurture the free entrepreneurial, self-reliant nature of Americans.

    I don't see any way out of some ugly social spending but we've got to be smart where we spend it. It's got to show a return on investment.

    I believe Deuce's four proposals at the top of the thread along with the ethanol push are a good start. We needs jobs and projects now which will position us for the future.

  71. The problem is that QEII is seen as massive currency manipulation which could "blow up" economies around the whirled. Who do you think the tariffs are going to come against?

    Once the trade wars start, the American consumer is going to take it in the neck.

  72. One important point that Deuce was making was that we're (the gov, and the fed) trying to stimulate our economy by giving money to the Banks, which They're using for investments in China, and India.

    That dog ain't hunting.

    We're going to have to bypass the Big Banks, and get the investment dollars out to the small, and medium businesses where it can do US some good.

  73. Ash said...
    I came across a deal today where I could by 2000 electronic items manufactured by a supplier in China and then I could resell them here for twice as much. Which transaction is worth more to the respective countries?

    Fri Nov 19, 04:14:00 PM EST

    It clearly is worth a lot to you. The national interest depends on what you do with the proceeds and how you sell it. If you use the capital to buy again from China, there is not much happening good for Canada.

    There will be a short term gain for the buyers of your products because they do not have to pay as much as they would from a domestic producer.

    Eventually the domestic producer goes out of business or buys from your supplier and does what you do. He has no choice.

    The consequence to domestic manufacturing and the people working for them is negative for society. Most people are not equipped to the entrepreneurial world of creative destruction.

    It is that destruction that sends the masses into the arms of the statists. That is the result time and time again.

    We have wrecked manufacturing, employment in farming and now construction. What do we do with millions of angry people that have the vote and resent what has happened to them?

  74. heh, in local economic news here of world wide import, my wife is threatening to "speech it" as she says, to City Council. I am writing a long, mean, sarcastic letter (it's my last chance to do so) to the City Council complaining about everything under the sun in our final development agreement, and my wife, who has experience in this, is volunteering to read it at the local televised hearing.

    I have already made up my mind to cave to their demands anyway. It would just get worse later.

    She raised holy hell back in Ohio about some tire dump that caught fire. The local tv station wanted to put her on the air, but she declined. "Bob, it will just lead to Ophrah, and The View, and I'm not going to do it."

    She did get the tire fire put our, and the mountain of tires moved out of her county.

    In wolf news, a fed judge has ruled for the State of Wyoming, and ordered the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to take another look at that state's plan to manage the species.

    Guvnor Rufus, when you are President, I want to be head of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

  75. I don' think anyone in China, or Brazil really thinks QEII is an attempt at currency manipulation, Whit. I think they're just trying, with some success it seems, to take attention away from their Own blatant lucretus manipulatus.

  76. Solar panels are a good example. The Chinese undercut the prices and there are no domestic suppliers for an entire industry.

    The same will happen in space. We have a shuttle, an amazing piece of technology (albeit a tribute to Rube Goldberg) sitting on a launch pad with cracks in a fuel tank. The factory that built is out of business. Now what? That little bit of creativity is going to take us out.

  77. Okay, Bob.


    We'll have Open Season on Wolves.

    But, to make it sporty, no rifles; just pistols.

    That should be fun.

  78. And, bows, and arrows.

    With free beer for Wolf Hunters.

    Whut could go wrong?

  79. No poison.

    Whattaya think we are?


  80. Bring the wolves to Pennsylvania.

    Wyoming has 98,000 square miles and 500,000 people.

    They are afraid of 1300 wolves in Montana and Idaho, 300 in Wyoming.

    Poor Little Red Riding Hood.

    What a bunch of pussies.

  81. Rancher is a macho name for shepherds, except shepherds actually live with their animals and protect them.

    Being a shepherd is not a macho name but they do what has to be done to protect their animal.

    Best to be a shepherd instead of a dude rancher.

  82. heh, it's not that we are afraid of the wolves, Deuce, we just love our elk, what's left of them.

    I'd happily send them to Pennslyvania, but would be going against PETA guidelines on the subject.

  83. That way you can make it personal with your protection. Knives, guns, dogs whatever. Be a shepherd not a pussy rancher.

  84. Most of the Basque shepherds here, what's left of them, are against the wolves hanging around. Makes there job more difficult. Don't have time to mix those fancy Basque drinks.

  85. Now we are sending tanks to Afghanistan, says report.

  86. We had and still have a lot of small farms in Pennsylvania. We don't have ranches because PA farmers actually own their own land or farm private land . We have varmints, coyotes, fox and the occasional wild cat.

    There are about 12,000 different owners of beef cattle in Pennsylvania; interestingly, there are also about the same number of owners of dairy cattle in Pennsylvania. There are 175,000 beef cows of calving age, and about 250,000 cattle are on feed annually.

    There are more than 2.6 million head of cattle and 13000 beef producers throughout Colorado.

    How do 12000 farmers make a living in PA vs. 13000 in Colorado?

  87. It looks like the federal government owns 36% of Colorado.

    Pennsylvania has 2.1 million acres of forest land.

  88. Extra beer if you kill your wolf with a Bowie knife.

  89. The largest owner of public land in Pennsylvania is the state Bureau of Forestry. A bureau within the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources, it manages more than 1.9 million acres. The next largest landholder is the Pennsylvania Game Commission with nearly 1.4 million acres. Together these two agencies own nearly 80 percent of the public land in Pennsylvania.

  90. Beats me. We used to have a lot more cattle around here, along the rivers, all gone now. Marginal grazing land, given up after the big feed lots in the mid-west got going good.

    Only reminder is the washboard look of some of the hills, where the cattle grazed.

  91. Blogger Deuce said...

    "Solar panels are a good example. The Chinese undercut the prices and there are no domestic suppliers for an entire industry."

    Actually, that is a very good example. If you take a look at the cost/benefit equation of using solar panels you need to obtain them at a price that makes their electrical output cost effective.

    For example, (these numbers pulled from my a$$) it costs 10 bucks a panel from China and the installer charges the equivalent of 10 bucks a panel to put it on your roof and wire the suckers up. Say you need 10 panels so it costs you 200 bucks. Those 10 panels will save you 40 bucks a year in electricity. In 5 years you break even and are off to profit. Now if you need to buy from you domestic supplier at 60 bucks a panel then the cost doesn't warrant the benefit (it would take about 15 years to break even) so you don't buy panels.

    In short low cost inputs to a business venture can be a good thing.

  92. Pennsylvania hunters take over 350,000 deer a year and they are still all over the place. What the hell is wrong with your elk Bob?

  93. Basically, what's wrong is, most have no life left in them.

  94. Good point Ash, but I have elk on my mind.

  95. Ohio, at least southern Ohio, is chuck full of deer too. I think the warmer climate may have something to do with it. Some of ours get starved out if the winter is tough. And the spring is a long time coming back in the hills.

  96. The elk population here has always been a lot less than the deer. They seem to need some big open spaces. Here where I live, there's a deer that comes over from the wheat field east, to eat crab apples in the city park. It's a rarity to see elk around a populated area. Rare to see them at all, really.

  97. Ohio deer hunters took a record 237,316 deer during the 2006-07 hunting season and for the third year in a row the harvest surpassed 200,000, according to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources (ODNR) Division of Wildlife. The total number of deer taken was 13 percent above last year's season total of 209,513.

    "We are very satisfied with this year's record harvest," said Steven A. Gray, chief of the Division of Wildlife. "Ohio's deer management program is a model for the country. The challenge now becomes maintaining a healthy deer herd into the future."

  98. On a hunch I thought we had an Elk County in PA. I was right. Besides Elk, here is the deal:

    The racial makeup of the county was 98.96% White, 0.15% Black or African American, 0.09% Native American, 0.35% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 0.10% from other races, and 0.31% from two or more races. 0.40% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 42.8% were of German, 17.8% Italian, 7.4% Irish and 5.1% Swedish ancestry according to Census 2000.

  99. Current trend is a "cause for alarm," says Fish, Wildlife and Parks.

    By Myers Reece, Flathead Beacon, Guest Writer, 11-28-09
    Wildlife biologist John Vore checks the age of a whitetail buck while a hunter looks on at the Swan Valley Check Station in October. - Photo courtesy of Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks
    Wildlife biologist John Vore checks the age of a whitetail buck while a hunter looks on at the Swan Valley Check Station in October. - Photo courtesy of Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks

    Deer harvest totals in many parts of western Montana are hovering near record lows, prompting state wildlife officials to consider revised hunting regulations for next season. Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks already implemented new licensing regulations this year following last fall’s poor harvest.

    Nobody is hitting the panic button yet, but Vivaca Crowser of FWP’s Region 2 says the current trends are cause for alarm. The general rifle season for elk and deer ends on Nov. 29.

    “It’s definitely a concern,” Crowser said. “Something we may be looking at is more restrictive regulations.”

    Last fall, check stations in western Montana reported whitetail and mule deer harvest numbers that were, in some areas, among the lowest in the past 15 years. As a result, FWP eliminated or cut back whitetail doe tags to put less strain on the population.

    In Region 2, Crowser said over-the-counter antlerless tags weren’t issued this year. Region 2 covers the Missoula area, including the Bitterroot and Blackfoot valleys. In Region 1, which comprises northwest Montana, deer B tags were scaled back “almost to nothing,” said John Vore, an FWP wildlife biologist in Kalispell.

    This season, hunters are killing even fewer deer, partly due to the new restrictions but mostly due to last year’s severe winter weather, a lack of snow this autumn and predators, biologists say. Harsh winters have led to low fawn survival rates over the past two years. Meanwhile, harvest numbers for elk, which are hardier animals, have remained steady.

    Whitetail buck numbers are way down in Region 1. Through Nov. 22, check stations reported 549 bucks, the fewest at that point in the season since the record low of 478 in 1997. The mule deer harvest is also among the lowest in history.

    With better weather conditions and the rut taking full form, a strong last week of the season could boost numbers. But even with such an increase, the season-end deer total is expected to be considerably lower than historical averages.

    Severe winters, Vore said, appear to be the main culprit. Vore reached that conclusion after comparing three primary sections of the Region 1 hunting district: the Eureka area, the Swan region and the valley bottom’s agricultural land surrounding Kalispell. He reminds that not all check stations are reporting depleted whitetail and mule deer counts, but of the ones that are, some are reporting drastic drops.

  100. ...and Obama carried Elk County.

  101. I would see 6 or 7 deer on the same lawn every morning going to work. This was about five years ago. The problem has grown since then but regardless of the surrounding areas I have never seen a deer in the neighborhood where I grew up. Last week my mom told me there was a buck in the neighbors yard. Nice rack, too, she said.


    White-tailed deer are plentiful across the region. The highest densities occur in Units 8, 8A, 10A, 11 and 11A. In recent years, Unit 10A has been second in total whitetail harvest statewide behind Unit 1.

    These units contain a mixture of public and private land and provide nearly ideal habitat for white-tailed deer.

    Hunter success rates typically run from 35 to 40 percent with two-thirds of the harvest antlered bucks.

    Mule deer are managed through controlled hunts in the region’s mule deer range (Units 11, 11A, 13, 14 and 18). Populations are stable. These are quality buck hunts and permits are highly sought-after.


    Surveys of the Lolo Zone last winter showed a 57 percent decline from 2006. As a result, the ”B“ tag quota was reduced to 1,088 and the ”A“ tag quota to 404.

    My farm is in Unit 8. Lots of feed, lots of little timber patches around, lots of whitetails, comparatively speaking, but nothing like southern Ohio.

  103. Sharp builds a lot of Solar Panels, here in Memphis. Another company is building a plant 30 miles East of here.

    There are, also, several factories in California. Right now, it's a "sellers' market." After the tax credit expires on Dec 31 it might be a little different.

    Right now, there is an extreme shortage of licensed guys to install the damned things. That has the cost of installation ridiculously high. That will, eventually, change, also.

    $4.50/watt is a good "installed" price, now. It "should" get down to the $2.00 range within a few years. Surely.

  104. I read its good for you to eat Elk.

  105. God Bless my wife. She listens to these doctors shows. I have developed an allergic reaction to metals touching my skin. Many women get this from ear rings and stuff. Have looked for a wooden belt buckle for instance. Just was told, paint the metal that might touch your skin with clear nail polish, problem solved. I am going to try that.

  106. I read its good for you to eat Elk.

    :) That's why I'm so unhealthy!

    Really, when I was eating elk, growing up, I seemed to have no problems at all.

    I'm off my proper feed.

    Maybe I should go hunting, we have a pickup now.

    Elk meat = proper prostate health.

  107. Just buy the right size pants and then you won't need a belt.

  108. There's an elk farm a little ways south of Coeur d'Alene, maybe two hundred head, that is for sale, if anyone wants an Idaho investment.

  109. :)

    My wife mentioned something along those lines, too.

  110. And all these recomends from a vegetarian!

    Venison is great, made into hamburger, it doesn't shrink at all, no fat.

  111. I'm not a poster child for PETA. I just don't eat the shit. I don't break for squirrels and I don't shun people for eating it.

    What i'm saying is go kill the fucking wolves. Do something. Give them vasectomies. Castrate them. Something!

  112. There's nothing like clearing a room.

  113. Bob, why do you pick on Mel about her diet. It's not like she's a PETA member like you.

  114. Well, Duece, in AZ we have The National Forests:


    The Tonto I am most familar with, it alone has over 3 million acres.

    More than all the public lands in PA, in just one AZ National Forest.

    The Forest Service says this, about themselves:

    The Southwestern Region is 20.6 million acres. There are six national forests in Arizona, five national forests and a national grassland in New Mexico, and one national grassland each in Oklahoma and the Texas panhandle. These National Forest System lands are marked by sudden bursts of alpine peaks, colorful mesas, and breathtaking canyons. This sun-baked region also features wild whitewater rivers and clear mountain streams. Renowned for its culture, this area's unique heritage is clearly visible in its wealth of prehistoric and historic sites and in the lives of many of its people who still celebrate the ways of centuries past.

    They say this, about why they are needed:

    Water is one of the most important natural resources flowing from forests. The Forest Service manages the largest single source of water in U.S., with about one-fifth originating from 193 million acres of land. A network of water and watershed resource specialists support stewardship efforts at all levels of the organization to promote healthy, sustainable watersheds fundamental to ecosystems and people.

    Forests in the United States provide drinking water to more than 180 million people.

    Sixty-six million people rely on a national forest as their water source.

    Then there are the National Parks:

    Canyon De Chelly
    Casa Grande
    Glen Canyon
    Grand Caynon
    Hohokam Pima
    Hubbell Trading Post
    Montezuma Castle
    Organ Pipe Cactus
    Petrified Forest
    Pipe Spring
    Sunset Crater
    Walnut Canyon

  115. Actually, I am a PETA member. Only because the son of a good friend of mine enter the cutest vegetarian kid contest and when I voted I had to sign up or something...

  116. Then, in addition to the National Forests, there are the Indian Reservations, all on Federal Land

    There are twenty-one federally recognized Indian tribes in Arizona today.
    Here are the addresses of Arizona's Indian reservations:

    *Ak-Chin Indian Community:
    Route 2, Box 27
    Maricopa, AZ 85239

    *Cocopah Indian Tribe:
    PO Box Bin G
    15th & Ave. G
    Somerton, AZ 85350

    *Colorado River Indian Tribes:
    Route 1, Box 23-B
    Parker, AZ 85344

    *Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation:
    PO Box 17779
    Fountain Hills, AZ 85269

    *Fort Mojave Indian Tribe:
    500 Merriman Ave
    Needles, CA 92363
    (The Fort Mojave reservation is on both sides of the Arizona-California border)

    *Fort Yuma-Quechan Tribe :
    PO Box 11352
    Yuma, AZ 85364

    *Gila River Indian Community:
    PO Box 97
    Sacaton, AZ 85247

    *Havasupai Tribe:
    PO Box 10
    Supai, AZ 86435

    *Hopi Tribe:
    PO Box 123
    Kykotsmovi, AZ 86309

    *Hualapai Tribe:
    PO Box 179
    Peach Springs, AZ 86434

    *Navajo Nation:
    PO Box 9000
    Window Rock, Arizona 86515

    *Kaibab-Paiute Tribe:
    HC 65 Box 2
    Fredonia, AZ 86022

    *Pascua Yaqui Tribe:
    7474 S. Camino De Oeste
    Tucson, AZ 85746

    *Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community:
    Rte 1, Box 216
    Scottsdale, AZ 85256

    *San Carlos Apache Tribe:
    PO Box O
    San Carlos, AZ 85550

    *San Juan Southern Paiute Tribe:
    PO Box 1989
    Tuba City, AZ 86045

    *Tohono O'odham Nation:
    PO Box 837
    Sells, AZ 85634

    *Tonto Apache Tribe:
    Tonto Apache Reservation #30
    Payson, AZ 85541

    *White Mountain Apache Tribe:
    PO Box 700
    Whiteriver, AZ 85941

    *Yavapai-Apache Nation:
    PO Box 348
    Prescott, AZ 86322

    *Yavapai-Prescott Indian Tribe:
    530 E. Merritt Street
    Prescott, AZ 86301

  117. Arizona Tribal Lands and Reservations

    Quite a nice map of all the Federal lands, in AZ.

    Only 15% of the State is privately owned, deeded property.

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  119. The Forest Service pays $175 for each wild bovine captured on Forest Service land.

    Not many fellas qualify for the contract. They are a handful, to catch and transport to the sale barn.

  120. the cutest vegetarian kid

    Was he really vegetarian?

    You know that is exploitation of children and adults in order to inflate membership numbers. Shame on PETA.

    PETA Kills animals

  121. Yes, he did win. If you go to their page they are having the sexiest vegetarian over 50 and well, since I'm no where near 50, I'm sad to say I can't enter.

  122. I promise I'll shoot one if I see one.

    I'll write to PETA and demand a sexiest vegetarian under 50.

    I have procured the nail polish from Wal-Mart, where all the holiday crap is up.

  123. I mean, a sexiest vegetarian under 50 contest.

  124. Shame on PETA. I'm withdrawing my 10.00 a year donation.

  125. On the other hand, maybe I'll stick with the first.

  126. That is shocking, a true feline/canine holocaust.

  127. Better dead than fed, PETA says
    June 23, 2005|By Debra J. Saunders

    This is not the first report that PETA killed animals it claimed to protect. In 1991, PETA killed 18 rabbits and 14 roosters it had previously "rescued" from a research facility. "We just don't have the money" to care for them, then PETA-Chairman Alex Pacheco told the Washington Times. The PETA animal shelter had run out of room.

  128. Damn, I've been taken for a ride again.

  129. Of all the White area on the Federal land map,described as "Private Land", The State of Arizona holds title, through the Land Trust of 9.3 million acres of land.

    Of which the vast majority of the 1,381.72 acres sold will be conserved as open space, a tribute to the effectiveness of the Arizona Preserve Initiative, in the 2008-2009 fiscal year.

    $143.4 million from the sale of land, rights-of-way and minerals was deposited

  130. The white areas on that State Map, are the deeded, private lands.

    About 15% of the total.

    As Deuce's comments indicated, private land is better managed than the Federal land is.

    Little wonder, that.

  131. Whit, my ears can't take no more. I'd rather listen to this

  132. A nice ending to a trying week…

    I like her, too.

  133. Boise State is having a little trouble with Fresno State, who seems to have a fair defense. They stopped Boise inside the 5 first and goal and almost did a second time. Boise State 10 - Fresno State 0. 8 min to go in the half.

    Giving up on Idaho, I've become a Bronco fan. They are #4 in the nation. It's a lot easier root.

  134. Tuesday, November 16, 2010 | Ryan Jones

    In a long open letter to the many new Republican members of Congress at the weekend, former governor of Alaska and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin urged the freshman lawmakers to stick to their principles, including unwavering support for Israel.

    Much of the letter focused on domestic policies, in particular taxes and the economy. But Palin did provide counsel on important foreign policy issues like Iran and the Israeli-Arab conflict.

    “You can stand with allies like Israel, not criticize them,” stated Palin. “You can let the President know what you believe - Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, not a settlement.”

    Palin’s remarks were in reference to the Obama Administration’s adoption of the Arab line that the building of Jewish homes and neighborhoods in Jerusalem is “settlement activity” and an obstacle to peace.

    Palin remains one of the popular choices for the Republican Party presidential nomination in 2012.

    Just another thing I like about Palin.

    Shoot wolves from helicopters, and support Jerusalem as capital.

    My team, Boise State, is now breaking it open 17 - 0.

  135. .
    What i'm saying is go kill the fucking wolves. Do something. Give them vasectomies. Castrate them. Something!

    You have missed the point.

    The boys in Idaho lack the requisite hunting skills to shoot a wolf. Vasectomies? Castration? You got to be kidding.

    One wonders if the Nez Perce still have the skill or if theirs is now restricted to dealing cards.

    With regard to your comment, I am bitterly disappointed.

    Bob one can understand.

    He is after all Bob.

    But you?

    Very disappointing.


  136. The boys in Idaho lack the requisite hunting skills to shoot a wolf.

    Poor Quirk, he's only seen wolves on "Animal World" on his TV, where they look so cute and cuddly.

    Out here though, in reality, it's tough to get them out of that high, rugged, timbered country. It's not like a Detroit parking lot, out here.

    Most carbon friendly way to get 'em is poison, in the winter.

    Boise State 51 - Fresno State 0

    It's a joy to have adopted BSU as my team familiar.

    3 1/2 minutes left in the game.

    I think this one is in the bag.

    g'nite, Quirk

    (may the wolves howl in your dreams)


  137. May they run you down, rip you to death, eat your tongue and anus, and leave the rest of you to rot, like they do to many of the elk.


  138. Just in your dreams, of course.

  139. One more thing -

    The NRA strongly opposes President Obama’s nomination of Andrew Traver as director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). Traver has been deeply aligned with gun control advocates and anti-gun activities. This makes him the wrong choice to lead an enforcement agency that has almost exclusive oversight and control over the firearms industry, its retailers and consumers. Further, an important nomination such as BATFE director should not be made as a “recess appointment,” in order to circumvent consent by the American people through their duly elected U.S. Senators.

    BATF is now the BATF and Explosives - BATFE - don't know when that change occurred.

  140. .

    It's a joy to have adopted BSU as my team familiar.

    And if BSU weren't winning who would you have adopted?


  141. .
    Out here though, in reality, it's tough to get them out of that high, rugged, timbered country. It's not like a Detroit parking lot, out here...

    Once more you admit your inadequacy.

    It is true they might not last long in a Detroit parking lot; but then, neither would most Idaho farmers.


  142. .

    ...(may the wolves howl in your dreams)...

    Thanks, Bobbo.

    It's like the distant wail of a freight train. Very relaxing.


  143. .
    May they run you down, rip you to death, eat your tongue and anus, and leave the rest of you to rot, like they do to many of the elk.

    And may you live to be 100 years, with one extra year to repent.


  144. And if BSU weren't winning who would you have adopted?

    Quirk, that is sooooo lame. All our Idaho schools are one now, don't you know. BSU classes at Cd'A. etc. It's a joy to see our Greater Idaho University winning.

    You're just jealous.

    It's like the distant wail of a freight train. Very relaxing.

    A fool's romantic Walt Disney image, if there was ever one.

    but then, neither would most Idaho farmers.

    Nor do most Detroiters, from what I read. Goddamn place is more dangerous than Afghanistan. We have better sense than to hang there.

    And may you live to be 100 years, with one extra year to repent.

    Thanks, but I intend to decline both offers.