COLLECTIVE MADNESS


“Soft despotism is a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville describing the state into which a country overrun by "a network of small complicated rules" might degrade. Soft despotism is different from despotism (also called 'hard despotism') in the sense that it is not obvious to the people."

Friday, August 01, 2008

Will Anything Hit the Fan?

From today's NYTimes
August 1, 2008
Pakistanis Aided Attack in Kabul, U.S. Officials Say
By MARK MAZZETTI and ERIC SCHMITT

WASHINGTON — American intelligence agencies have concluded that members of Pakistan’s powerful spy service helped plan the deadly July 7 bombing of India’s embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, according to United States government officials.

The conclusion was based on intercepted communications between Pakistani intelligence officers and militants who carried out the attack, the officials said, providing the clearest evidence to date that Pakistani intelligence officers are actively undermining American efforts to combat militants in the region.

The American officials also said there was new information showing that members of the Pakistani intelligence service were increasingly providing militants with details about the American campaign against them, in some cases allowing militants to avoid American missile strikes in Pakistan’s tribal areas.

Concerns about the role played by Pakistani intelligence not only has strained relations between the United States and Pakistan, a longtime ally, but also has fanned tensions between Pakistan and its archrival, India. Within days of the bombings, Indian officials accused the Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, of helping to orchestrate the attack in Kabul, which killed 54, including an Indian defense attaché.

This week, Pakistani troops clashed with Indian forces in the contested region of Kashmir, threatening to fray an uneasy cease-fire that has held since November 2003.

The New York Times reported this week that a top Central Intelligence Agency official traveled to Pakistan this month to confront senior Pakistani officials with information about support provided by members of the ISI to militant groups. It had not been known that American intelligence agencies concluded that elements of Pakistani intelligence provided direct support for the attack in Kabul.

American officials said that the communications were intercepted before the July 7 bombing, and that the C.I.A. emissary, Stephen R. Kappes, the agency’s deputy director, had been ordered to Islamabad, Pakistan’s capital, even before the attack. The intercepts were not detailed enough to warn of any specific attack.

The government officials were guarded in describing the new evidence and would not say specifically what kind of assistance the ISI officers provided to the militants. They said that the ISI officers had not been renegades, indicating that their actions might have been authorized by superiors.

“It confirmed some suspicions that I think were widely held,” one State Department official with knowledge of Afghanistan issues said of the intercepted communications. “It was sort of this ‘aha’ moment. There was a sense that there was finally direct proof.”


The information linking the ISI to the bombing of the Indian Embassy was described in interviews by several American officials with knowledge of the intelligence. Some of the officials expressed anger that elements of Pakistan’s government seemed to be directly aiding violence in Afghanistan that had included attacks on American troops.

Some American officials have begun to suggest that Pakistan is no longer a fully reliable American partner and to advocate some unilateral American action against militants based in the tribal areas.

The ISI has long maintained ties to militant groups in the tribal areas, in part to court allies it can use to contain Afghanistan’s power. In recent years, Pakistan’s government has also been concerned about India’s growing influence inside Afghanistan, including New Delhi’s close ties to the government of Hamid Karzai, the Afghan president.

American officials say they believe that the embassy attack was probably carried out by members of a network led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani, whose alliance with Al Qaeda and its affiliates has allowed the terrorist network to rebuild in the tribal areas.

American and Pakistani officials have now acknowledged that President Bush on Monday confronted Pakistan’s prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, about the divided loyalties of the ISI.

Pakistan’s defense minister, Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar, told a Pakistani television network on Wednesday that Mr. Bush asked senior Pakistani officials this week, “ ‘Who is in control of ISI?’ ” and asked about leaked information that tipped militants to surveillance efforts by Western intelligence services.

Pakistan’s new civilian government is wrestling with these very issues, and there is concern in Washington that the civilian leaders will be unable to end a longstanding relationship between members of the ISI and militants associated with Al Qaeda.

Spokesmen for the White House and the C.I.A. declined to comment for this article. Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, did not return a call seeking comment.

Further underscoring the tension between Pakistan and its Western allies, Britain’s senior military officer said in Washington on Thursday that an American and British program to help train Pakistan’s Frontier Corps in the tribal areas had been delayed while Pakistan’s military and civilian officials sorted out details about the program’s goals.

Britain and the United States had each offered to send about two dozen military trainers to Pakistan later this summer to train Pakistani Army officers who in turn would instruct the Frontier Corps paramilitary forces.

But the British officer, Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup, said the program had been temporarily delayed. “We don’t yet have a firm start date,” he told a small group of reporters. “We’re ready to go.”

The bombing of the Indian Embassy helped to set off a new deterioration in relations between India and Pakistan.

This week, Indian and Pakistani soldiers fired at each other across the Kashmir frontier for more than 12 hours overnight Monday, in what the Indian Army called the most serious violation of a five-year-old cease-fire agreement. The nightlong battle came after one Indian soldier and four Pakistanis were killed along the border between sections of Kashmir that are controlled by India and by Pakistan.

Indian officials say they are equally worried about what is happening on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border because they say the insurgents who are facing off with India in Kashmir and those who target Afghanistan are related and can keep both borders burning at the same time.

India and Afghanistan share close political, cultural and economic ties, and India maintains an active intelligence network in Afghanistan, all of which has drawn suspicion from Pakistani officials.

When asked Thursday about whether the ISI and Pakistani military remained loyal to the country’s civilian government, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, sidestepped the question. “That’s probably something the government of Pakistan ought to speak to,” Admiral Mullen told reporters at the Pentagon.

Jalaluddin Haqqani, the militia commander, battled Soviet troops during the 1980s and has had a long and complicated relationship with the C.I.A. He was among a group of fighters who received arms and millions of dollars from the C.I.A. during that period, but his allegiance with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda during the following decade led the United States to sever the relationship.

Mr. Haqqani and his sons now run a network that Western intelligence services say they believe is responsible for a campaign of violence throughout Afghanistan, including the Indian Embassy bombing and an attack on the Serena Hotel in Kabul earlier this year.

David Rohde contributed reporting from New York, and Somini Sengupta from New Delhi.
It's interesting that this story came out today. Could it indicate that the US has "given up" on the Pakis or is it meant as a message to them that our patience has a limit?

68 comments:

  1. Threatswatch
    (down the page at "Pakistan" are a bunch of links)

    Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani, suggesting America is “impatient,” said the US should give Pakistan intelligence on al-Qaeda and Taliban “and we’ll do the job ourselves.”
    But when actionable targeting intelligence has been shared with Pakistan in the past, al-Qaeda camps were suddenly abandoned due to leaks to the enemy from sympathetic members of Pak intelligence and military.

    A “top Central Intelligence Agency official” has made a trip to Islamabad to confront Pakistani officials regarding CIA information confirming relationships between members of Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency and Taliban leadership in the tribal areas.
    ---
    Note from Steve @ Threatswatch:

    1. Bomb. SigInt parsed, Pakistan advised by US that it 'has a problem' that we are aware of and growing intolerant of.

    2. US whacks camp in Waz, al-Masri maybe dead.

    3. Pak announces ISI moved under Civ oversight (Interior ministry).

    4. PM Gilani meets Bush in WH, then upbraids him in post-meet presser. "we fight this war ourselves." "US should give us intel, we will handle ourselves."

    5. Bush: "Oh really?" Proof of ISI dirty hands in bombing of Indian embassy released publicly.

    Gilani, it's your move.

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  2. Anybody else have a problem w/Internet Explorer getting into some sites starting today?
    (ALL blogger sites I've tried, plus Longwar, threatswatch, etc!)

    So I finally had to download firefox.
    (Hell maybe I'll even update Acrobat!
    ...someday)

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  3. One upshot should be that we can fire from Predators and tell the Pakis to shove it if they don't like it.
    ...and if we no longer tell them what we're up to, the kill rate should go UP!

    Little easier to understand how bin Laden and Dr. Z have survived this long, maybe they've been living in splendor compliments of ISI?

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  4. Wonder if we'll still sell them those F-16's?

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  5. Dear Uncle Elephant:

    I replaced the Flag Decals on my car with the Obama Seal, but now he is not using it.
    What should I do?

    When will we be able to buy the insignia he has on the tail of his blessed 757?

    Can't wait til they replace that flag on Air Force One!

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  6. First time to disagree w/bro D Day:
    He doesn't like the priceless ad!

    The ad alone is reason enough to vote McCain!
    (well, that and watching 'Rat's head explode!)

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  7. why use internet explorer? drop it for firefox or safari.

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  8. Brother D-Day is so much more right than wrong, he deserves a pass on that one.

    It is a very clever tactic, the ad. Obama is selling snake oil. It is all hype, image, hope and very wishful thinking. It is unsustainable bullshit. However the bullshit only needs to stay warm for eighty odd days.

    The ad and I am sure, many more to follow, will chip away at the warm glow and fuzzy wuzzies around the manger scene created for His Slickness.

    Nothing deflates better than humor and making your opponent appear silly and pompous is a good tactic.

    This is war. This is an attempt to seize and control the US. It is serious business. Win first at any cost.

    Attack. Attack, Attack.

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  9. Thanks for the baton pass barkeep.

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  10. “We have got to move away from these beautifully choreographed speeches which appeal to groups of voters who are unassailably in the Obama camp already,” said a non-staff adviser to Mr Obama. “What plays well with the educated liberal voter sometimes grates with the blue-collar folk, whom we need on our side if we are going to win.”

    The Democrats will say and do anything. That is how a street fight works. They get you in a head lock, bite them to draw blood, crush their nuts and attack again.

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  11. (Hell maybe I'll even update Acrobat!
    ...someday)


    I gave up on latest Acrobats at v.7 or something. Using 5.1.0 and have no problems.

    Firefox is good, too.

    Next move will be away from microsoft all together. Screw Balmer and his munchkins.

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  12. Yeah, doug, there is a bug in the IE of some sort.

    Pakistan always has been the source of the terrorists support, through the ISI. Pakistan supported by the Sauds.

    The aQ fellas are not independent operators, not at all. They are the covert operatives for at least two Nation States, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. That the US refuses to acknowledge that, indicative of the failures of Team43 and the rest of the Federal establishment.

    Stay the course, go shopping.

    Maybe for a SUV

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  13. mat confuses capital gains with corporate profits.

    A neophyte capitalist and new investor, obviously.

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  14. "mat confuses capital gains with corporate profits."

    Huh? The capital gains were made thru corporate profits of monopolists heavily subsidized by the public purse. I addressed both items, as the two are related in this case.

    The mofo oil swines have been grazing on tax payers money since forever. Being the flaming socialist/commie that I am, I suggested we might want to remedy that, especially given the economic consequences if we don't. But no, GOP crony capitalism must have its right of way. It's the American way.

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  15. Back on topic, re: Paki ISI. I asked the question "Will anything hit the fan?" because I doubt we'll do anything more than protest. I would hope that we and the Pakis could weed out the bad seeds but...I don't think the chances for that happening are very good either.

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  16. Gentleman (and Ladies):

    Today being Saturday on this side of the world please take a moment to do your patriotic duty (unless you're orthodox) and make sure that your tires are inflated to the recommended air pressure.

    Per Herr Obama's enlightenment, America can save 800,000 gallons of gasoline per day simply by getting engine tune-ups and proper tire inflation. Jake Tapper, ABC News, says "we did some research and it's true." He says that Governor Crist and Schwarenegger are also pumping the inflation hype.

    So, buck up you whiners. If you don't like paying $4.00 per gallon, tough, get a hybrid. If you can't afford a new car, take a friggin' bus. Obama says your life will change forever.

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  17. Oh look at this! Obama shifts to "support of limited off-shore drilling."

    ==

    The real shift of support is by those that would benefit from such.

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  18. The irony being that crony capitalism is the result of an excess in socialist-style interference in the market, where active corporate lobbying has leveraged economic power into political power and political power into more economic power. From plutocracy (rule by wealth) to kleptocracy (rule by theft) to bankruptcy.

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  19. Firefox, barmates. Firefox. It is a superior browser to IE on all fronts. You will not be disappointed.

    ...............................

    My annoyance with Maverick is that he is not hammering BO's socialism. Hard.

    Socialism freaks the country out. Both Kerry and Gore had to lie even worse than usual to hide their positions on everything in 2000 and 2004.

    Obama is starting to do the same with his switch on offshore drilling. There is the opportunity. He blinked. Now is the time to attack VERY HARD on his POLICIES. He is scared and knows that the bullshit will no longer carry him.

    The big problem is that the GOP has waded and wallowed into the cesspool of socialism with the DNC and has destroyed its credibility.

    Barry's egomania is the cartoon fun thing to hammer. Talk show fodder. Sure, fine, hit him with it, but make that one of twenty fronts you have opened up on his ass. Let's get on with his insane policies.

    For me personally, I have visceral dislike of Barry the Jive. Voting against him is no problem. When I see the GOP platform of same-old same-old I want to wretch.

    If my state looks like a definite win for Maverick, I am voting Barr. At least I can leave the voting booth without feeling like an unsuspecting kid that got a surprise prostate exam from a dirty priest in a confession booth.

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  20. according to my sources the issue with paki and india is real, could go off the charts in a moment...

    both have nukes

    pakistan doesnt understand that india COULD destroy the entire so-called country of pakistan in a moment..

    Once again, the islamists are not happy with dividing up a country (india) that was set up to appease them, they want more...

    already india has 151 MILLION moslems, maybe they should be pushed out and into Pakistan?

    the islamic world doesnt know when to be happy with what they have stolen, sit down and shut the f*ck up...

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  21. Whit,
    On Miller, Tapper said
    800,000 BARRELS A DAY!
    My ass.
    Some sane person on Ingraham mentioned that for modern cars tuneups are mostly a thing of the past, not the same as when the old clunkers needed new points timimg, etc.

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  22. How could we ever stop crying, WIO, if all those ever loving Pakis fried?

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  23. Colombia confronts its bloody past

    Colombia's mass graves are starting to reveal the true horror of more than a decade of paramilitary massacres and murders. But few believe the full truth will ever be known or that the government wants it all revealed.

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  24. Do you call it "crony capitalism" when your friends in the solar energy receive tax breaks and subsidies from government?

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  25. The cronies of the GOP killed thise off on the solar business, whit.
    Putting mat's investments in solar energy at risk of having to be economicly competitive, on their own.

    He much prefers government when it acts in his interests, as in Israel.
    Where the cronies are busy, always.

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  26. 800,000 barrels per day?! I stand corrected.

    Doug, don't you believe the Washington Post, Tapper's employer?
    He said they verified the statement.

    Shame on us for driving old out-of- tune clunkers on deflated tires. Fat, stupid Americans sucking up the world's resources.

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  27. "For me personally, I have visceral dislike of Barry the Jive."
    ---
    That story about him being too fit is typical MSM Fodder, and yet when Miller was talking about it wrt to the overweight electorate, I realized that even tho I'm not fat, I was repeatedly noticing the skinny little elite metro sexual in pictures more and more, adding to my list of personal resentments.

    No doubt it bothers many heftier folks even more.
    As if you need more little reasons to dislike the ignorant, arrogant, America hating, narcissistic SOB.

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  28. doug said...
    How could we ever stop crying, WIO, if all those ever loving Pakis fried?


    I hate to say it....

    I'd get over it...

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  29. The comedy is that Obama, Maverick and Bush, along with their minions will argue about the "Central" front of this War on Terror.
    Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran all get their moments in the sun. When the reality is that the financial center of the terrorists is in Saudi Arabia and the operational HQ is and had been in Pakistan.

    Until those realities are addressed, there is no War on Terror, just a police chase through the deserts of southwest Asia

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  30. dr:He much prefers government when it acts in his interests, as in Israel.
    Where the cronies are busy, always.

    Actually in Israel which started from a far left "kibbutz" mentality has moved aggressively into free market (all praise the next Prime Minister BiBI)

    Some projects are deemed state level and national security level....

    In MANY cases industries are started and fed by the government and then spun off and sold as private sector companies..

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  31. It's so typical of Commie Lovin MoFo's, Whit, as they Jet around the World from one Limo/SUV procession to another, proclaiming constantly how much purer all us plebes are going to have to become.

    For me the "funniest" thing is, it was my pet peeve FORTY Years ago in College, when the bastards from the same generation were doing it then!

    ...Europe on their parent's dime, etc in the summer, preaching Environmental purity back on campus.

    Shit's gettin old, but we'll have to pry it from their cold, dead, anuses.

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  32. Sure they are wi"o", and that is a lot of what cronie capitalism is about.

    Israel no more or less than others. I mention Israel due to the battery recharge system and the manipulation of the vehicle fleet they will attempt through the tax code.

    The point being it is not crony capitalism mat objects to, it is which cronies are capitialized, by the government he finds appalling.

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  33. From my local dead tree this A.M.:

    US Agriculture Secretary attending Florida's "Farm to Fuel Summit" said that Congress is "nuts".

    "The reason we can't get Congress to move on the need to open up the exploration and extraction of energy sources that are in the boundaries of this country is because they're nuts. They don't get it. They're wrapped up in the political structure, they're worried about their re-election."

    Yeah, they're beholden to the watermelon, enviro whackos. The secular humanists who worship the created.

    Things are happening, in spite of the Dem stranglehold on Congress. Federal energy policy may become irrelevant as the people solve the damn crisis themselves. In Florida, the market (God Bless, Milton Friedman) is going full tilt to bring non-food source ethanol to large scale production. Even Florida's number one metrosexual, Governor Charlie (is-he-gay?) Crist is on board with the idea of exploring all the energy avenues including drilling.

    The old saying "Lead, follow or get out of the way." couldn't be more appropriate to Congress right now.

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  34. dr: argue about the "Central" front of this War on Terror.
    Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran all get their moments in the sun. When the reality is that the financial center of the terrorists is in Saudi Arabia and the operational HQ is and had been in Pakistan.

    Until those realities are addressed, there is no War on Terror, just a police chase through the deserts of southwest Asia



    Some of us have been arguing that the war on terror should be called the "war on islamifacism"

    thus iraq, iran syria, hamas, hezbollah, pakistan, OBL & company are all a part of the equation arabia, moslem brotherhood, sunnis, wahabbis, the PLO (fatah etc) are all equal members to be addressed...

    the question is strategy.....

    personally?

    I'd cut off all funding to all arab/islamic nations at once that are NOT friendly to us.

    Let's see

    Egypt average 3 billion a year
    The Palestinians .5 billion a year
    Jordan? Turkey? Pakistan (10 billion last few years)

    and on and on... so many hands grabbing our cash and sticking a dagger in our backs..

    Look to the UN voting records to decide...


    Why do the OIL producers not protect their OWN tankers?

    Why do we provide it for free?

    OIL is the issue...

    If not for anything BUT national security, shale oil NOW

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  35. We are at war with those that attacked US, wi"o", not the Religion of Peace.

    Those that attacked US operated from Pakistan, funded by the Sauds.

    Is that way, been that way.

    That we went off chasing shadows for the last five years, well, just another case of misdirection.

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  36. Doug, do you listen to Miller, Hewitt and Prager through streaming audio or podcast?

    I subscribe to their programs and a ton more and automatically download the podcasts everyday. I then sync em to my Ipod Nano and I'm off! The wife hates it.

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  37. "Until those realities are addressed, there is no War on Terror, just a police chase through the deserts of southwest Asia."

    I agree but it looks as though Islam is on the ascendancy to me. The multiculti PC west, having lost its own religion, just can't find the cajones to stand up to Sharia and such. Until and unless the muzzie are successful with the most outrageous of large scale atrocities, we're destined for dhimmi status.

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  38. "Do you call it "crony capitalism" when your friends in the solar energy receive tax breaks and subsidies from government?"


    Because crony capitalism is what it is. Anyone not willing acknowledge this is being deliberately obtuse.

    As for the solar industry, what solar energy receives is not even a penny on the dollar compared to what the oil mafia receives. You can't even call it a token gesture, as the permits to move forward have been stonewalled for years.

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  39. I said:
    "Until and unless the muzzie are successful with the most outrageous of large scale atrocities, we're destined for dhimmi status."

    Okay, I don't really think we're that flaccid. In fact, I think the Islamists are their own worst enemies. Always overplaying their hand, killing too many of their own and generally pissing off to many ordinary nominal Muslims.

    It's the groups like CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood and the Saud family that I am really concerned about. They work on creeping incrementalism. Slowly raising the water temp until we're "good an' boiled."

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  40. "He much prefers government when it acts in his interests, as in Israel.
    Where the cronies are busy, always."


    Actually, what Israel did is to even the playing field by taking away the subsidy that the oil mafia receives from the US government.

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  41. dr

    We are at war with those that attacked US, wi"o", not the Religion of Peace.


    I did not say we are at war with Islam

    I said we are at war with islamicfacism

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  42. Quit whining. The conspiracy theories are tiresome.

    The market will bring these technologies to fruition. If your favorite alternate sources are all they are cracked up to be, they'll be embraced by the market. If not, well they just don't work. $4.00/gallon gasoline is a market changer. Be patient and don't let the bitterness become irrationality.

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  43. "Because crony capitalism is what it is. Anyone not willing acknowledge this is being deliberately obtuse."

    Mankind is crony. Corruption is the rule rather than the exception.

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  44. "If your favorite alternate sources are all they are cracked up to be, they'll be embraced by the market."


    The market has. It's GOP regulatory obstructionism and massive oil subsidization that's the problem.

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  45. Pelosi Save the Planet, Let Someone Else Drill
    By Charles Krauthammer

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi opposes lifting the moratorium on drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and on the Outer Continental Shelf. She won't even allow it to come to a vote. With $4 gas having massively shifted public opinion in favor of domestic production, she wants to protect her Democratic members from having to cast an anti-drilling election-year vote. Moreover, given the public mood, she might even lose. This cannot be permitted.
    Why? Because, as she explained to Politico:
    "I'm trying to save the planet; I'm trying to save the planet."
    (this moron is #3 in Presidential Succesion!)

    A lovely sentiment. But has Pelosi actually thought through the moratorium's effects on the planet?

    Consider: 25 years ago, nearly 60 percent of U.S. petroleum was produced domestically. Today it's 25 percent. From its peak in 1970, U.S. production has declined a staggering 47 percent. The world consumes 86 million barrels a day, the United States, roughly 20 million. We need the stuff to run our cars and planes and economy. Where does it come from?

    Places such as Nigeria, where chronic corruption, environmental neglect and the resulting unrest and instability lead to pipeline explosions, oil spills and illegal siphoning by the poverty-stricken population -- which leads to more spills and explosions. Just this week, two Royal Dutch Shell pipelines had to be shut down because bombings by local militants were causing leaks into the ground.

    Compare the Niger Delta to the Gulf of Mexico, where deep-sea U.S. oil rigs withstood Hurricanes Katrina and Rita without a single undersea well suffering a significant spill...

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  46. "Mankind is crony. Corruption is the rule rather than the exception."

    So what's your beef with socialists and commies?

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  47. What is the Oil Subsidization, Mat?

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  48. The old saying "Lead, follow or get out of the way." couldn't be more appropriate to Congress right now.


    Damn straight, Whit. With a 9% approval rating, all we need is those two missed meals and congress might get run straight out of DC by the mob of freeloaders they created and fed for so many years.

    Congress the malignancy. Does nothing but gums up the works and makes the patient sicker.

    I'm gonna go air up the tires in the old Dodge M37 and spew some C02 into the atmosphere for good fun. Might adjust the timing a little and mix it rich to make the exhaust come our black. Just for Barry.

    Keep the beer iced barmates, it's gonna be 97 and humid here today and I'll be thirsty when the chores are done.

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  49. Podcast, Whit:
    Allowed me to turn off the old Dell, which saves me more than enough on the electric bill to pay for the subscriptions!
    ...and a lot more convenient.

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  50. Doug: Compare the Niger Delta to the Gulf of Mexico, where deep-sea U.S. oil rigs withstood Hurricanes Katrina and Rita without a single undersea well suffering a significant spill...

    It seems to me its in the best interest of the Nigerian oil lords to invest some of their yellow gold in security and modern infrastructure to get their black gold to market, and it's their problem, not ours. In the meantime, high prices are already having the expected effect of causing American consumers to ditch their Hummers in favor of hybrids, just like we ditched our Buicks and bought Datsuns back in the 1970s. Ain't the free market grand?

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  51. bro D:
    Back in the day, you could buy a setup from JC Whitney that would put raw gas in the exhaust for cool, flaming backfires!

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  52. Doug,

    Remind me again why the US government is building mega bases in Iraq and not Somalia and Darfur? Remind me what all that US military hardware and personnel is still doing in the Persian Gulf 20 years after the collapse of the Soviets?

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  54. That's subsidies for the Wealthy Stinking Sheiks, not Exxon.

    That and Iraq are just more reasons for why Pelosi and Co are wrong, and why we should unleash "Big Oil" back here in the good ol' USA.
    ...as T-Boone says, do EVERYTHING.

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  55. "That's subsidies for the Wealthy Stinking Sheiks, not Exxon."


    Not really. Wealthy Stinking Sheiks provide the welfare checks for the US military industry by handing them superfluous contracts and fake wars. All very productive economic activity, to the tune of trillions of dollars.

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  56. M: Not really. Wealthy Stinking Sheiks provide the welfare checks for the US military industry by handing them superfluous contracts and fake wars. All very productive economic activity, to the tune of trillions of dollars.

    Not hardly...

    Yes, During Iraq war 1 America was paid back about 40 billion by the arabs, the real cost of oil since it was 12 bucks a barrel has cost us plenty more than the arab buy in weapons.

    Factor in the free protection for the shipping lanes and one can see quite quickly that the rich oil sheiks are screwing up blind...

    the oil mafia is killing the USA...

    read "the secret war against the jews" by john loftus, if paints a picture of america sleeping with the arabs for cheap oil

    from BUSH 41's grandfather prescott making deals for oil sales to the NAZIS DURING WW2 while bush 41 was floating in the pacific, to the british and the house of saud (vomit)

    face the truth the west has played with the devil for oil..

    Jordan? a fake creation to take historic promised JEWISH lands to give to the EX-owner of arabia....

    Iraq & Jordan BOTH set up as kingships to make room for the british installed house of saud (vomit)

    the sooner we KILL middle eastern oil the better

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  58. "the real cost of oil since it was 12 bucks a barrel has cost us plenty more than the arab buy in weapons."


    WiO,

    You misread my sarcasm a little.

    It's not what the arabs buy as weapons, although that helps too. It's the excuse that the arabs give US military contractors to sell the Pentagon superfluous military equipment, along with fake wars to a bamboozled US public.

    Saudia finances Jihad, which is then used to keep the US military and US military contractors busy. All the while, US tax payers foot the bill.

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  59. m said:
    You misread my sarcasm a little.


    a little?

    went so far over my head did not see it coming or going


    m: It's not what the arabs buy as weapons, although that helps too. It's the excuse that the arabs give US military contractors to sell the Pentagon superfluous military equipment, along with fake wars to a bamboozled US public.

    I'd say what eisenhower said, beware the military industrial complex...

    however that being said, most nations measure military spending as a % of GDP...

    Today we spend less than 1% during the Vietnam war we spend 4% and further back the cold war even more...

    in actual dollars the USA out spends the next 10 nations combined. (including russia & china)


    M: Saudia finances Jihad, which is then used to keep the US military and US military contractors busy. All the while, US tax payers foot the bill.

    the house of saud does this and keeps MANY nations in the state of chaos. not just the USA..

    Israel comes to mind...

    Think of the billions of euro's and dollars pumped into the PA, Hamas, Hezbollah & such, this bleeds many nations...

    maybe the solution is the destruction of the value of the persian and arab oil resources...

    using alternatives is one long term solution

    using the military is another...

    I find it interesting to read how the arab world views the 2006 war in lebanon a hezbollah success, even though hezbollah lost over 6 billion in assets and 1200 people...

    maybe they need to loose 50 billion and 20-30 thousand next time...

    maybe if condi keeps her her nose out of it, the next war will eliminate most of the modern structures of lebanon, syria & gaza.

    that will cost them several 100 billion...

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  60. "I'd say what eisenhower said, beware the military industrial complex..."


    It’s Paliwood writ large, WiO.

    Deuce posted this clip several threads back:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39a_1217286501


    Now, I’m no great military genius, but even I could tell, right away, there’s something seriously wrong with this situation. No mortars, no canons, no sights for target acquisition, no snipers. Just a bunch of over exited boys playing war. I tell you, even as 10 year olds in the old neighborhood playing Cowboys and Indians we were more serious than this.

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  62. WiO,

    Going solar would short circuit their scam. And that's why they are resistant to it. The fsckers even agreed to sell the Saudis nukes, just to keep this sick game going.

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  63. 2019.08.28酒店經紀近期正在尋找酒店工作,或有意在公家機關內上班的人請注意,台北市政府依各轄內機關酒店兼差人力需求,近期有55個機關釋出150個約聘僱酒店打工人員職缺。但因各酒店經紀需求人力職務、業務不同,因此薪資落差不小。例如北市府資訊局釋出的聘用高級研究員職缺,其月薪依學經歷,最高可達新台幣70000元,但台北市禮服店便服店制服店的約僱生活服務員職缺,月薪僅給70000元。此次北市八大行業約聘僱人員招募自即日起~9月2日(週一)止受理報名,預計10月19日(週六)、10月20日(週日)舉辦甄試。

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  64. 2019.11.09台北知名酒店經紀今天(9日)公布10月酒店上班薪資統計,酒店經紀公司全體酒店工作受僱員工每人經常性薪資平均為新台幣9萬3200元,酒店小姐年增4.59%,創近19年同月最高,不過,較能反映景氣的加班工時則已連續6個月呈現負成長。酒店經紀分析:這代表酒店兼差景氣雖持續擴張,但擴張力道趨緩。不過,5月整體加班工時年減0.2小時,已連續6個月呈現負成長,若觀察制服店、便服店、禮服店、鋼琴酒吧、日式酒店、飯局、傳播加班工時更是連續7個月負成長,顯示景氣雖持續擴張,但擴張力道趨緩。台北風俗知名專家說:八大行業跟去年11月比,酒店兼職是減了3小時,可是7月跟去年7月比是減了3.5小時,所以沒有擴大,基本還是景氣擴張力道趨緩,反映出的加班打工減少的現象。

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  65. 2019.11.13台北知名酒店經紀11日發布薪資統計指出,受飯局陪睡、跨國援交業等行業經常性薪資成長趨緩影響,9月酒店工作的酒店小姐常性薪資年增率跌破2%、僅1.72%,創下近28個月最低。知名酒店經紀表示,市場八大行業經常性薪資年增率,近兩年酒店打工大都保持在2%以上,9月大學生兼差酒店上班跌破3%,主因為部分八大行業按月發放的績效獎金減少所致,包括制服店、便服店、禮服店、鋼琴酒吧、日式酒店、飯局、傳播,經常性薪資增幅都較低。酒店經紀統計上班族酒店兼職薪資年增率,近兩年除了兩個月(2017年11月、2019年2月)不到4%之外,其餘各月皆在3%以上,今年9月年增率2.33%,是2017年6月以來最低。

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