The Nobel season starts with the announcement in Stockholm of the prize for medicine on Monday, to be followed by the physics prize on Tuesday, the chemistry prize on Wednesday, the literature prize on Thursday and the peace prize on Friday. Over the years, there has been considerable controversy over who has won and who has not. I am undecided as to who was the worst, but Arafat or Jimmy Carter have to be in the running. I am sure there are some other interesting choices.
Look at the list of previous Peace Prize winners, and give us your thoughts on the least deserving, the most ironic and the most notable never to have made it. Make a prediction. Peace out.
Here is a list of all previous Winners:
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
1984 - Desmond Tutu
1983 - Lech Walesa
1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
1979 - Mother Teresa
1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
1977 - Amnesty International
1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
1975 - Andrei Sakharov
1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund
1971 - Willy Brandt
1970 - Norman Borlaug
1969 - International Labour Organization
1968 - René Cassin
1967 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1966 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1965 - United Nations Children's Fund
1964 - Martin Luther King
1963 - International Committee of the Red Cross, League of Red Cross Societies
1962 - Linus Pauling
1961 - Dag Hammarskjöld
1960 - Albert Lutuli
1959 - Philip Noel-Baker
1958 - Georges Pire
1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson
1956 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1955 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1954 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1953 - George C. Marshall
1952 - Albert Schweitzer
1951 - Léon Jouhaux
1950 - Ralph Bunche
1949 - Lord Boyd Orr
1948 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1947 - Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
1946 - Emily Greene Balch, John R. Mott
1945 - Cordell Hull
1944 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1943 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1942 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1941 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1940 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1939 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1938 - Nansen International Office for Refugees
1937 - Robert Cecil
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky
1934 - Arthur Henderson
1933 - Sir Norman Angell
1932 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1931 - Jane Addams, Nicholas Murray Butler
1930 - Nathan Söderblom
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg
1928 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson, Ludwig Quidde
1926 - Aristide Briand, Gustav Stresemann
1925 - Sir Austen Chamberlain, Charles G. Dawes
1924 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1923 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1922 - Fridtjof Nansen
1921 - Hjalmar Branting, Christian Lange
1920 - Léon Bourgeois
1919 - Woodrow Wilson
1918 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1917 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1916 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1915 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1914 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1913 - Henri La Fontaine
1912 - Elihu Root
1911 - Tobias Asser, Alfred Fried
1910 - Permanent International Peace Bureau
1909 - Auguste Beernaert, Paul Henri d'Estournelles de Constant
1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson, Fredrik Bajer
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta, Louis Renault
1906 - Theodore Roosevelt
1905 - Bertha von Suttner
1904 - Institute of International Law
1903 - Randal Cremer
1902 - Élie Ducommun, Albert Gobat
1901 - Henry Dunant, Frédéric Passy
All they are saying ....
ReplyDeleteIs give peace a chance!
The junta in Burma, they've maintained the "Peace", doubt though that they'll get the prize.
This year, like 1939, the prize money should just be reinvested.
In that way, the Prize wil be all the greater when Mr Maliki wins the 2009 Peace Prize, for demanding the US leave Iraq.
That'd be more deserving than Doc Kissinger and Le Duc Tho.
The third useless appendage to win the Nobel Peace Prize, after Jimma and Yassir, was the United Nations Peacekeeping Forces in 1988, presumably for their role ending Intifadah within the eternal lands of the noble Palestinian people oppressed by the implacable Zionist entity.
ReplyDeleteIts interesting to note how many prizes have been awarded for peace in the Middle East.
ReplyDelete2007 US Armed Forces
ReplyDelete(esp when under competent Civilian authority, which we hope is in the supply channel.)
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National Guard Troops Denied Benefits After Longest Deployment Of Iraq War...
The tour lasted 22 months
Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota guard members, were written for 729 days.
Had they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would receive those benefits to pay for school
MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home from Iraq, 2,600 members of the Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer than any other ground combat unit. The tour lasted 22 months and had been extended as part of President Bush's surge.
1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home to this: A government refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have earned under the GI bill.
It's pretty much a slap in the face," Anderson said. "I think it was a scheme to save money, personally. I think it was a leadership failure by the senior Washington leadership... once again failing the soldiers."
Is there a more contemptible poseur and windbag than Elie Wiesel? - Christopher Hitchens
ReplyDeleteSure, doug.
ReplyDeleteGotta save, economize.
Can't waste money on education of folks that served their country for 729 days.
If the Government wanted those Guardsmen educated, the Federals would issue them diplomas.
Goes to purpose.
Those Guardsmen were shafted, on purpose.
Ain't it grand!
Evangelical vows of Poverty, Chstity and...:
ReplyDelete---
"Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.
Richard Roberts is accused of illegal involvement in a local political campaign and lavish spending at donors' expense, including numerous home remodeling projects, use of the university jet for his daughter's senior trip to the Bahamas, and a red Mercedes convertible and a Lexus SUV for his wife, Lindsay.
She is accused of dropping tens of thousands of dollars on clothes, awarding nonacademic scholarships to friends of her children and sending scores of text messages on university-issued cell phones to people described in the lawsuit as "underage males."
All she was saying, doug, is
ReplyDelete"Give me a piece!"
She deserves that Lexus, the clothes, and the trappings of wealth.
Why would she not, after all her sacrifice, supporting her husband's career
No sack cloth and ashes demanded, nor allowed in post modern religion.
It is a business, after all.
Federally subsidized, at that.
Gotta find some more points of light...
Gotta hand it to the Sudanese, though.
ReplyDeleteA little Insugent activity, they raze the Insurgents town, or perhaps it was just a convenient town to raze.
Hard to tell, from here.
Regardless, doubt any more insurgent attacks are staged from Haskanita, again.
KHARTOUM, Sudan (Associated Press) -- A Darfur town under the control of Sudanese troops has been razed, the U.N. said Sunday. The destruction of the town was in apparent retaliation for a suspected rebel attack on a nearby African Union peacekeeping base.
The town of Haskanita "which is currently under the control of the government, was completely burned down, except for a few buildings," the U.N. mission to Sudan said in a statement.
The U.N. did not say who set fire to the town but said Sudanese government forces took control of the area last week after suspected Darfur rebels attacked the nearby AU base a week ago, killing 10 peacekeepers.
U.N. officials said the burning began Wednesday but observers were unable to obtain firsthand confirmation until Sunday.
"The market area had been looted," the U.N. statement said. It said most civilians fled after the Sept. 29 attack on the base but a few returned to search for food and water.
A U.N. official who had just inspected the North Darfur town said Sunday more than 15,000 civilians were fleeing the area.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said the town was destroyed by the Sudanese army and its allied janjaweed militias of nomad Arabs.
An Associated Press reporter saw Haskanita intact last weekend just as the army was taking control following the suspected rebel attack, although several villages were smoldering nearby at the time. It was unclear if anyone was killed or injured in the destruction of Haskanita.
Several international observers, including aid workers and U.N. officials, disputed claims by local rebel chiefs that about 100 civilians had been killed in the destruction of Haskanita.
The Sudanese military had no immediate comment on the burning of the town. The African Union said it could not comment since it had evacuated the area around Haskanita last Sunday.
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ReplyDeleteA Nobel Peace Prize winner, in Costa Rica, pleads for his countrymen to do "the right thing"
ReplyDeleteWe'll know Monday what the people in Costa Rica feel is in their "vital interests"
All 3 million of them
SAN JOSE, Costa Rica (Associated Press) -- Costa Ricans vote Sunday on whether to ratify a free-trade trade deal with the United States that has sharply divided the nation between those who say it would generate prosperity and critics who fear it would hurt farmers and local businesses.
Costa Rica is the only one of the six signatories to the U.S.-Central American Free Trade Agreement, known as CAFTA, that has yet to ratify it. The deal is in effect in the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and El Salvador.
With polls showing that Costa Ricans are poised to reject the pact, Costa Rica's president and U.S. officials have appealed for voters to back the deal.
On Saturday, the White House said if Costa Ricans vote against joining the agreement, the Bush administration will not renegotiate it.
The pact would "expand Costa Rica's access to the U.S. market, safeguard that access under international law, attract U.S. and other investment and link Costa Rica to some of the most dynamic economies of our hemisphere," White House press secretary Dana Perino said in a statement.
U.S. officials also suggested they may not extend trade preferences now afforded to Costa Rican products and set to expire next September.
Despite its conflicts over trade, Costa Rica fares better than other Central American countries: It has a thriving eco-tourism industry, maintains relatively high-paying jobs and is a magnet for Salvadoran and Nicaraguan migrants.
"The country, businesses and all of us need to continue forward, and I think the treaty will benefit us because we can compete," said 40-year-old Mauricio Rojas, who works at a textile factory in San Rafael de Poas that makes clothing for Tommy Hilfiger, Perry Ellis and Claiborne.
President Oscar Arias, a strong supporter of the pact, said a 'no' vote would affect Costa Rican industries and called it an "important tool for generating wealth in the country."
Arias, who won a Nobel Peace Prize for helping end Central America's civil wars in the 1980s, also said rejecting the pact would threaten trade benefits that help Costa Rica's textile and tuna industries.
I disagree with Rat. This years prize shouldn't be reinvested, but 'spent like there's no tomorrow' on the odds that there isn't.
ReplyDeleteWorst--Arafat
Best--Mother Teresa soon to be St. Teresa
By the way another reason the Lutheran Peace Felllowship shouldn't be holding prayer vigils in Friendship Square is Jesus said when you pray, pray in your closet, or, by example, alone on a mountain somewhere. Not in public, like the holier than thou hypocrites do.
ReplyDeleteThe struggle against radical Islam is the fight of our generation. We all need to pitch in — not charge it on our children’s Visa cards. Previous American generations connected with our troops by making sacrifices at home — we’ve never passed on the entire cost of a war to the next generation, said Robert Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs International, who has written a history — “The Price of Liberty” — about how America has paid for its wars since 1776.
ReplyDelete“In every major war we have fought in the 19th and 20th centuries,” said Mr. Hormats, “Americans have been asked to pay higher taxes — and nonessential programs have been cut — to support the military effort. Yet during this Iraq war, taxes have been lowered and domestic spending has climbed. In contrast to World War I, World War II, the Korean War and Vietnam, for most Americans this conflict has entailed no economic sacrifice. The only people really sacrificing for this war are the troops and their families.”
In his celebrated Farewell Address, Mr. Hormats noted, George Washington warned against “ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burdens we ourselves ought to bear.”
Which just goes to further show ...
Iraq and the Mohammedan War ain't no war, at all.
30,000 troops home for the Victory Parades on the 4th of July!
"Stay the Course!"
Who'd you give the money to, bob?
ReplyDeleteIsraeli Strike on Syria, According to News Report
ReplyDeleteI'd give the money to The Elephant Bar.
Clusters to the front of the line?
ReplyDeleteThe Costa Ricans are going to reject the free trade because there is genuine fear from the lower half of the population that food electric and phone service will go up, meanwhile the Chinese are making real inroads with very cheap consumer goods. The US has not done a good job backing groups and selling the idea. It would clearly be good for US banks, insurance and automobiles, retailing etc. Costa Rica is very small but important as an example for Latin America. It would be a cheap won victory and do us a lot of good in the hemisphere. The Iranians are active in Nicaragua, Columbia and Venezuela. Venezuela is meddling in Columbia and Panama is on it's way to being a client state of China. Costa Rica is very important to US policy in Latin America.
ReplyDeleteVery little diplomacy was needed, but our Spanish speaking Presidente Jorge didn't seem to get it.
Then we could fight over how best to blow it fast.
ReplyDeleteClusters have triple votes on how best to blow it.
If I show any cynicism about the Prize, it's cause I have some.
That one to Sadat et al made some sense I quess.
Jorge is busy, saving souls, sorry.
ReplyDeleteMost ironic--United Nations Atomic Energy Agency
ReplyDeleteInternational Atomic Energy Agency, that is.
ReplyDeleteMy personal best was Norman Borlaug. If he hadn't come along, the Green Revolution would have been a lot slower, and India would have been a mess as hunger destroyed whatever social cohesion they had. Yunus comes a close second. Economics and scientific application to ensure material wealth and happiness is one of the main pillars for lasting peace. People with sufficient money and happiness would not(typically) choose to go to war.
ReplyDeletePersonal worst? Too many to judge. Amnesty, Arafat, Kofi, Carter,
"Is there a more contemtable posuer and windbag than Elie Wiesel?"--How about, Christopher Hitchens?
ReplyDeleteGood choices, wobbly.
Gathering Storm
ReplyDeleteSeems that Afghanistan is a dangerous place to be an E4 in the US military.
ReplyDeleteLots of headshots.
Wonder why?
(CBS/AP) A member of the Massachusetts National Guard found dead under suspicious circumstances in Afghanistan was laid to rest in her hometown of Quincy Saturday.
Specialist Ciara Durkin was discovered, with a single gunshot wound to her head, in a secure area of Bagram Airfield last month.
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She had joined the Army National Guard in October 2005 after getting laid off from her information technology job. Her duties included making sure the finances of soldiers were in order and that their families were getting benefits.
The death of Durkin, who was found dead within the confines of a secure air base on September 28, were made more mysterious by news she told her family while visiting home three weeks before she was killed. Durkin's said Ciara told her she had "discovered some things I don’t like and I made some enemies because of it," and asked if anything happened to her, to make sure it was investigated.
Her family initially complained that military officials told them she was killed "in action," but then later said she died in a "non-combat related incident."
Durkin's family met with Army investigators this week and were reassured everything was being done in the investigation. The family discounts the possibility of suicide.
At least she wasn't "triple tapped"
Discovery of theft of money, or discovery of an opium smuggling ring, come to mind,
ReplyDeleteRat.
Aww, give it a rest. Dubya's fought like hell for free trade, and CAFTA. You have some fucking democratic congressmen, and union people lying to the Costa Ricans telling them that Congress will give them a "better deal" if they reject this one.
ReplyDeleteI'll tell you fucking experts who else will benefit. The textile mills in South Carolina that will be able to undercut the Chinese in selling to the clothing manufacturers down there.
You people don't seem to realize that 30% of our economy (jobs) is connected to "Trade."
ReplyDeleteYou all need to go back and look at Smoot-Hawley Act, and the Great Depression.
Don't you assholes get it. The Democrats just want to keep the poor, poor, and the unions in power. That's their "client" base.
To blame Dubya, as hard as he's worked on this is just fucking outrageous.
Let me give you blockheads an example:
ReplyDeleteWe have "free trade" agreements with 7% of the world's population.
Almost 90% of our "Exports" go to this 7%.
Now, Bubbas, when you're importing a Billion Dollars a day's worth of OIL, and Another .9 Billion/Day worth of other products, You Damned Well better be "Exporting" a whole bunch of stuff.
ReplyDeleteCosta Rica Decides Sovereignty Today
ReplyDeleteBuenos Aires, Oct 7 (Prensa Latina) Costa Rica has the option to determine whether to continue as a free, sovereign country or become a US colony, said Nobel Peace Prizewinner(1980), Argentinean Adolfo Perez Esquivel.
At least 2.70 million Costa Ricans are expected to go to polling stations established countrywide to decide if they reject or approve the ratification of the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA-DR) with the US.
"It will be a historical event with the people expressing themselves with critical consciousness and values which are part of their life and identity, strengthening common objectives of sovereignty and self-determination,"said Perez Esquivel in a letter addressed to the Costa Rican people.
In his letter, he warned them of the present and future consequences if the country is subject to the fta, "which has nothing to do with free trade but rather with dominance."
rma rl ocs
PL-5
Rufus is tight about the benefits, but wrong that the US has made a good fight for it in Costa Rica.
ReplyDeleteThe left wingers and that includes many US citizens in Costa Rica have been waging a campaign against it. It would have taken very little for the US to have used very little money and make the case. It was not done.
ReplyDeleteThis is an example of some of the Latin left that have targeted Costa Rica to reject this treaty, It is that important to them. Here is A Letter to President Bush
ReplyDeleteBy ADOLFO PEREZ ESQUIVELone Nobel Laureate. Sorry but W does no know how to counter punch or go toe to toe with these guys.
Aw, come on deuce; think about what you're saying. Bush can't just "write a check" to initiate an advertising campaign in Costa Rica. And, even if he could, can you imagine the "fall out" from our "Meddling" in the "Sovereign" affairs of another country's elections?
ReplyDeleteWe will never notice, but as the years go by the Costa Ricans will.
Rather than blame it on a man who's a bit occupied with Two Wars, the Biggest Economy in the History of the World, and an idiotic Democratic Congress, maybe we should look to the "Businessmen" (American - Costa Rican Chamber of Commerce, Textile Manufacturers, Ag Companies, etc.) and ask why "They" weren't taking action.
ReplyDeleteWhy concede to the left on anything anywhere? Why can't we be as clever with information as the they are? I just do not buy that. The Chinese are promoting trade shows and are out there everyday. The left always gets plenty of camera time on TV and the paper media.
ReplyDeleteThe US could replace most Chinese imports with products made in the Americas. All it takes is a plan and a commitment. A start with a program to demonstrate the benefits would be massive. Costa Rica, Nicaragua and Panama would be a great place to start.
Agreed.
ReplyDeleteFlash
ReplyDeleteKnights Templers to be cleared of heresy.
Long lost, now found document clears Templers.
Not heretics, just ritually weird.
I've been waiting a long time for this. I was once in Demolay.
The document, known as the Chinon parchment, reveals that the Templars had an initiation ceremony which involved "spitting on the cross", "denying Jesus" and kissing the lower back, navel and mouth of the man proposing them.
ReplyDeleteThe Templars explained to Pope Clement that the initiation mimicked the humiliation that knights could suffer if they fell into the hands of the Saracens, while the kissing ceremony was a sign of their total obedience.
The Pope concluded that the entrance ritual was not truly blasphemous, as alleged by King Philip when he had the knights arrested
Damn King Phillip, that heretic.
No sleep last night. No coffee this morning. Just a bit grouchy, eh?
ReplyDeleteSorry :( Maybe I'll go back to bed, now. :)
Heretics, or not, "Thats" a Club I don't think I'll be joining.
ReplyDelete"Lower Back?"
How Low?
Saragossa Sea Seaweed Not So Bad Not the Bermuda Triangle. But don't sail a small boat in it. From Coast to Coast, as also the info about the Templers.
ReplyDeleteNow low can you go Rufus? As in, kiss my ass:)
By the way, they had a Captain Sweeny on last night about the Law of the Sea Treaty. Seems most mariners are for it. They are having a problew with piracy off of Somalia, Nigeria, Malaysia etc. Would allow our Navy to go in and get them without another government's permission. The pirates these days sometimes take the whole ship to some rogue port. Get the goods, the ship, and the crew ransom money.
ReplyDeleteSaid that Russian claim to the n. pole was a propaganda move. Law of the Sea Treaty would aid us and the canucks and Denmark too in that regard. Lots of minerals and petroleum in the area, according to him.
The Captain was speaking just from a mariners point of view I think.
Rufus, if you weren't as prickly as a hedge hog, we wouldn't believe it was you.
ReplyDeleteTHIS Could end up being a Big Thing.
ReplyDeleteThere's a little company called "Dynamotive" (DYMTF.OB) that is at the forefront of this deal and would likely benefit.
Yeah, I got your f---in "hedge hog" right here! Oops, my bad; still grouchy, ain't I. Sorry :)
ReplyDeleteSeems to me that when public officials from the Congress, let alone private citizens, attempt to move the ball forward in foreign policy venues, many of the posters here were all in a tizzy.
ReplyDeleteHow dare Ms Pelosi attempt to usurp Executive authority. Now the same folk declare that private citizens, not the State Department should be out, carrying the water for the US in foreign diplomicy.
Consistency, hermanos, consistency.
There is a little of it missing in that stance.
Are you talkin to ME? Are You Talking to ME?!?
ReplyDeleteWe're talking "Trade," Rat, NOT "Diplomacy."
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ReplyDelete185 MPH in the Quarter-mile in a 1.9 Liter, 4 banger?
ReplyDeleteMust have been some of that Less-efficient fuel I've been hearing about:)
When one tries to influence the elections in another country, rufus, that is diplomacy.
ReplyDeleteIt may be a "Trade" issue, but it is still diplomacy.
If the Executive Branch is to preoccupied to fulfill it's duties, better get them more guys, and gals to do the job, or a better class of guys and gals.
But since the Executive has not asked for more personnel and has not restructured the State Department, that would indicate that the President is pleased, or at least satisfied, with the status que.
ReplyDeleteSeems clear enough.
If the Americas are not important to the Bush Administration, fair enough, but do not lay their failures at the feet of the nameless "they".
Because "they" have neither the Authority nor the Responsibilty.
The President does.
No getting around it. The Bush 43 Team has done a dismal job promoting US interests around the world.
If armed force or the threat of force won't do it, it don't get done.
Slip sliding away ...
No, Rat, you're full of fucking shit as usual. The President worked his sorry ass off getting the dumb-assed Costa Ricans a heckuva deal. If they're too fucking stupid to take it, Fuck'em.
ReplyDeleteIt's not our job to nursemaid every mental deficient bunch of fucks in the universe. Like I said, "We'll never notice - They WILL." Fuck'em.
So, rufus, free trade, the principle of it, is not worth promoting, at home or abroad.
ReplyDeleteSuits me.
My imports are coming over the wire, not a port of entry.
Intellectual property imports.
Suits me fine.
But there you go ...
Hand over Central America to the enemies of the US, walking distance. Hugo, Fidel, Daniel...
While they hold the coat of the Chicoms. But, you're right, it doesn't matter. More OTMs across the southern frontier, it's all good.
Because they are dumb fucks, not like US. If they'd but learn to be like US, borrowing money from our enemies to defend their oil deliveries. That is the deal they should be emulating.
Giving up Soveriegnty for short term profits, that's how the trade is percieved.
Hell, I do not think that'll sell in the US, in '08.
Mr Hsu won't mind, nor will his handlers.
Their position is "locked in"
They care about the Americas, while the US plays in the sandbox.
Good showing for the Chinese
poor performance by the US.
Whether or not you think that it is important.
It better not be our job to nursemaid all the dumb fucks in the Universe cause it's a big un.
ReplyDeleteGiving up on "soft power" solutions, if they do not come easy.
ReplyDeleteNo problem, send in the Marines!
That'll show 'em!
BOBAL: It better not be our job to nursemaid all the dumb fucks in the Universe cause it's a big un.
ReplyDeleteThat picture is like an ant taking a picture of your backyard and showing it to the rest of the hive, labelling it "the universe"
If nurse maiding dumb fucks is not the function of the US, we best be leaving Iraq, ASAP.
ReplyDeleteNothing but a bunch of 'em there.
Certainly no "vital interest"
If they start to kill each other, just proves how dumb they really are.
The oil will still be on the market, was before the US arrived, will be after the US departs.
Or not.
Does not make much difference, it's owned by dumb fucks. Bought by dumber fucks, to burn in SUVs
I'm just mad because I want my E85 Truck, and no one will build it.
ReplyDeletePisses me off.
I could save a buck a gallon on my gas, and send a raspberry to the Jihadi loving, terrorist-supporting Oil Cartel at the same time.
The US more than doubling the Saudi income, since 9-11-01, when their citizens attacked the US.
ReplyDeleteThat's being a dumb fuck
Borrowing the money from one enemy, to fight a war.
The results of which have strengthen the enemies of the US.
The action in Iraq, the more than doubling of oil prices due to that market disturbance, enriching the Wahabbists in KSA and the mullahs of Iran. The Iranians getting double mileage, more cash for their exports and political influence, like they never had before, in Iraq.
dumb fucks, they surely be
Just asking here, cause I don't know anything about it, but do the Costa Ricans, or some of them, have some environmental concerns about this proposed deal?
ReplyDeleteThat's me, an ant with a Kodak.
Everyone but US is a dumb fuck
ReplyDeleteIt explains so much
Why didn't I see it until now?
Yeah, I guess standing around with your thumb up your ass while a Nuclear-armed Saddam takes over 40% of the world's oil would have been the "Smart" thing to do. Give me a fucking break!
ReplyDeleteBTW, the price of oil is staying up because the world is figuring out that we're at "Peak" Oil.
"We" got the money! "They" Don't."
ReplyDeleteYeah, "They're" the Dumb Fucks.
Any Fucking Questions?
Saddam has been gone for a while, now, rufus.
ReplyDeleteThat excuse for mismanaging a Region has grown thin.
Like blaming the Jimmy Carter and the Shah for our problems with Iran.
Saddam has been gone for almost five years, time flies when you're havin' fun.
If he really was going to be a problem, with those nonexistent nukes, should have taken him down in 1991.
Would have, but Dick Cheney could not see an successful end game.
He still cannot.
But since we've won and are coming home, victorious, all is forgiven.
It's startin to look a lot like "Victory," to me.
ReplyDeleteIt should, it is
ReplyDeleteWhat else would it look like?
You do not think that President Bush would withdraw from Iraq if we had not won, do you?
He could have easily extended the tour lengths to 18 months, to maintain the higher troop counts.
He chose not to. He did not need to.
We've won, just will not admit it.
Though if we stay on, long enough, we'll be played as losers, just cause we're there.
Nobel peace (unlike the real Nobels) is given only to six types of people/ groups:
ReplyDelete1. Well-meaning idealists whose efforts are completely in vain (Amnesty International; Sanchez ; Aung Su Kyi etc)
2. Effete opportunists who provide the passing illusion of having secured peace only to conceal the still simmering conflict that boils over the day after the prize is awarded (Hume, Trimble etc)
3. Murderers who slaughter thousands of the “other” side and then meet to make peace between themselves or turn against their own former “ideologies” (Saadat and Begin; Arafat and Rabin)
4. Opportunists who advocate their own religious/political agenda as the loyal puppets of someone else, in the name of peace (José Ramos-Horta; Kofi Annan)
5. The worst kind of all, not just among opportunists but among humans, those who create peace from the conflict they created and furthered through their machinations and manipulations of nations in their own interest, so that they can claim to have forged peace (Henry Kissinger stands tall in this category).
6. Any idiot who can be a symbol for poking some disliked, politically incorrect, unfashionable regime or national leader (Ramos-Horta; IAEA)
For every one “good and decent” human who gets the Nobel peace, ten monsters are awarded the same. On that count, this year each of my candidates qualifies at least on two counts. Here are my top 3 contenders for this year:
1. The North Korean peace negotiating team (Criteria #1 and 2)
2. General Petraeus (# 2 [the surge], #3)
3. Mikhail Sashkavili (Well, this one does not quite have two but only one; no other qualification but #6 )
If it were left to me, I will give to your former Prez Bush Sr., the original creator of the mess that he left for his son to clean up, and the son did not know better.
Nobel peace (unlike the real Nobels) is given only to six types of people/ groups:
ReplyDelete1. Well-meaning idealists whose efforts are completely in vain (Amnesty International; Sanchez ; Aung Su Kyi etc)
2. Effete opportunists who provide the passing illusion of having secured peace only to conceal the still simmering conflict that boils over the day after the prize is awarded (Hume, Trimble etc)
3. Murderers who slaughter thousands of the “other” side and then meet to make peace between themselves or turn against their own former “ideologies” (Saadat and Begin; Arafat and Rabin)
4. Opportunists who advocate their own religious/political agenda as the loyal puppets of someone else, in the name of peace (José Ramos-Horta; Kofi Annan)
5. The worst kind of all, not just among opportunists but among humans, those who create peace from the conflict they created and furthered through their machinations and manipulations of nations in their own interest, so that they can claim to have forged peace (Henry Kissinger stands tall in this category).
6. Any idiot who can be a symbol for poking some disliked, politically incorrect, unfashionable regime or national leader (Ramos-Horta; IAEA)
For every one “good and decent” human who gets the Nobel peace, ten monsters are awarded the same. On that count, this year each of my candidates qualifies at least on two counts. Here are my top 3 contenders for this year:
1. The North Korean peace negotiating team (Criteria #1 and 2)
2. General Petraeus (# 2 [the surge], #3)
3. Mikhail Sashkavili (Well, this one does not quite have two but only one; no other qualification but #6 )
If it were left to me, I will give to your former Prez Bush Sr., the original creator of the mess that he left for his son to clean up, and the son did not know better.
I'm curious as to why you consider Jimmy Carter to be in the worst running for the Nobel Peace Prize. What he did for human rights, particularly in Latin America, during his presidency is unparalleled by another U.S. president. In encourage you to do a little bit of research on him.
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Mohnadas Karamchad Ghandi (India), Rameshvari Neru (India), Pablo Iglesias ( SP), father Pedro Arrupe and the Society of Jesus of the Roman Catholic church ( SP , FR Vat)., Sir Julian Huxley ( UK) , Ernst Junger (GER), Joseph Weizenbaum ( USA-M.I.T., . b GER), Emma Goldman ( IT. U.S.A), Pau Cassals ( SP), Pierre Trudeu (CAN)
Jeannette Rankin( U.S.A), Giuseppe Lanza del Vasto (IT), Martin Buber ( ISR), Cesar Chavez and the NFWA- USA).
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